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Speaker 1: Good Morning, Bill on Shawn Watson. On Deshaun Watson. UM,

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Speaker 1: I was curious to get your read on him overall,

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Speaker 1: but particularly late and close games. Um, He's had a

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Speaker 1: against Indianapolis. What have you noticed about him in those

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Speaker 1: fourteen seconds, the two big plays to Hopkins and Stills.

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Speaker 1: Then the Atlanta game, down by eight two minutes ago,

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Speaker 1: score fifty yr pass on a double move to um Faller. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's fourth and one situations. You know, Watson's had a

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Speaker 1: yard line or so on a you know, his zone

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Speaker 1: read and he kept the ball so there. He's very

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Speaker 1: very good. He can, you know, make he's a very

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Speaker 1: accurate downfield passers, made some great throws double moves, steam routes,

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Speaker 1: post patterns, go go routes, things like that, And of

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Speaker 1: course we all know he's a very athletic guy with

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Speaker 1: from anywhere at any time. Doesn't take long, and it's

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Speaker 1: just it'd be a big challenge for us or sixty minutes,

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Speaker 1: up Bill on the flip side of that, one of

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Speaker 1: the strengths I say of your team this year has

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Speaker 1: been finishing games. Certainly was the case with the Cowboys. Um,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel you guys have done late in

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Speaker 1: finishing up games. Well, that's always, you know, an area

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Speaker 1: that's important. But I don't think anything really means any

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Speaker 1: It doesn't really mean anything. Um. One thing that matters

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Speaker 1: is what happens this week. So hopefully we'll have an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to be in that situation. But um, again, as

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Speaker 1: I said, it's a lot to prepare for, and technics

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Speaker 1: have have a lot of explosive players, very explosive offense,

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Speaker 1: and you know it'd be a big challenge for us.

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Speaker 1: So well, you know, if it comes up, we'll see

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Speaker 1: we can do do it this time, but it's it

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Speaker 1: would be hard. Thanks Bill, Yeahlking Like our next question,

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Speaker 1: Matt Ventur of a sot HBOS started to promote your

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Speaker 1: documentary with Nick Saban. I was wondering if if you've

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Speaker 1: you know, I haven't really seen it. Um. I saw

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Speaker 1: And you know coach Saban, Um, you know, I I

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Speaker 1: Nobody I respect from football more than Nick Saban. I've

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