WEBVTT - 042724 Were Things Better Under Trump? (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Keep on riding with us as we continue to broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>weekly studios. Welcome back to Civic Cipher. I'm your host, Ramsey's.

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<v Speaker 2>Job is Ramsey's job. I am q Ward and you

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, we appreciate you and we want you

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<v Speaker 1>to stick around because we do have a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>in store. We are going to be talking about whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not things were better under Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so ione, let Rams has handle this.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all have a good week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'll be cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Peace. Listen, this is kind of what's what's going back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth. There's a lot of goings on on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, black mails, are not voting for Biden, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know all kinds of stuff, right, So we're really

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a critical examination, a data based examination

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<v Speaker 1>of whether or not that's true. So I employed to

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<v Speaker 1>stick around for that because I think we got our

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<v Speaker 1>numbers lined up here. But before we get there, it's

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com. I'm going to read from Prweek. The short

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<v Speaker 1>version of it is that this is a PR firm

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<v Speaker 1>that is supporting a company that is hiring autistic people.

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<v Speaker 1>So we really want to center the company that's hiring

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<v Speaker 1>autistic people. But the article came from this Prweek magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>Goblin is growing it's partnership with Autonomy Works, a company

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<v Speaker 1>that employs individuals with autism, and honor of Wealth Autism

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<v Speaker 1>Awareness Day, The Inner Public Group Agency began working with

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<v Speaker 1>the organization in twenty twenty two on a pilot program

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<v Speaker 1>that integrated people with autism into the work streams of

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<v Speaker 1>GO and client businesses. The initiative included work on two

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<v Speaker 1>accounts with Goalan's healthcare practice and one within its consumer practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Autonomy Works associates have supported the agency and its teams

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<v Speaker 1>over the last year and a half by taking on

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<v Speaker 1>assignments including media monitoring, social community management, are JIC routing,

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<v Speaker 1>and reporting. According to Covin, as a result of the

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<v Speaker 1>work and the integration of aid associates. The Inner Public

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<v Speaker 1>Group Agency is working to grow its partnerships so that

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<v Speaker 1>Autonomy Works members can bring their specialized talents to more

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<v Speaker 1>client accounts, sectors and sectors. The firm stead in a statement,

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<v Speaker 1>So the short version of it is that this company,

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<v Speaker 1>Autonomy Works, decided that first off, the CEO's son was autistic.

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<v Speaker 1>He started doing a task and realized, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>my son would be really great at this task. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>autonomy Works. Then they set up a program to hire

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<v Speaker 1>people who are autistic, who really enjoy doing routine tasks

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<v Speaker 1>and are really detail oriented and very focused. And they

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<v Speaker 1>are able to pay these people great wages, get them

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<v Speaker 1>a place in society, and they are centering people who

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<v Speaker 1>really you could use that support. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a tremendous example of becoming a better allies. So shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Autonomy Works. All right? Were things better under Trump? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so I appreciate y'all being with me this

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<v Speaker 2>week is going to take you guys home with this one,

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<v Speaker 2>because oh man, that's nonsense on his face, that we

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<v Speaker 2>we just made my stomach hurt a little bit. So

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<v Speaker 2>So so okay, now what you was talking about is

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<v Speaker 2>for those of us who you know what, We're not

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<v Speaker 2>even going to talk about black people.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about our Mexican American brothers and sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>We live in the southwest of the United States. We

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<v Speaker 1>spend all of our time in Vegas, Phoenix, California, all

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<v Speaker 1>places that were once Mexico. The people that live here

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<v Speaker 1>have lived here for a very long time, long before

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<v Speaker 1>this was the United States of a Maria. They never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of that, They never heard of English. Right twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump wins the election campaigning on building a wall

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<v Speaker 1>to separate Mexico from the United States. Okay, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people who lived here were very concerned about that

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<v Speaker 1>rhetoric and that divisiveness. And despite whatever policies, whatever life

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<v Speaker 1>would have been better under Trump, our Mexican American brothers

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<v Speaker 1>and sisters, I should say, many of our Mexican American

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<v Speaker 1>brothers and sisters felt that angst living under that presidency

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<v Speaker 1>because he was a person that was playing you know, conservative,

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<v Speaker 1>fearful white voters' greatest hits. They're stealing your jobs, they're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, anchor having anchor babies, They're they're draining the

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<v Speaker 1>economy on and on and on. This is what it's saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and that that rhetoric makes life very challenging for people

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<v Speaker 1>that live in Phoenix, that live in California.

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<v Speaker 2>That.

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<v Speaker 1>Texas, in the Southwest, right, et cetera. So add to

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<v Speaker 1>that that the people that were supporting Trump, and Trump

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, you know, stand back and stand by, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of stuff. Those people, the bona fide racists

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump never denounced, that never, He just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>took it all in stride. He knew who he was

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to, he knows how to speak that coded language.

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<v Speaker 2>Those people were straightforward to denounce these questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldnot, But those people were emboldened under a Trump presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>I had never seen more racism, you know, in my

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<v Speaker 1>adult life than under more overt yes, overt out loud

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<v Speaker 1>right there, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Go, straight forward, uncoded, aggressive, violent racism.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>That is man Well said, you should write a book

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<v Speaker 2>my children like yours. Yeah, our former president would have

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<v Speaker 2>loved for them to be on the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>that wall he bragged about building. So it was a

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<v Speaker 2>very very personal thing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know that he doubled down a few times,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with the s whole countries and what type

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<v Speaker 1>of people he wanted migrating here, you know, and he

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<v Speaker 1>named his white countries and then his proposed Muslim band

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<v Speaker 1>from all the brown country, all this sort of stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is this coded sort of language that again

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<v Speaker 1>speaks to the people that are already predisposed to hating

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<v Speaker 1>and I have already sort of adopted a very divisive

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<v Speaker 1>advantage point of how people should live their lives. So

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<v Speaker 1>when we asked the question were things better under Trump

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<v Speaker 1>through that lens only, there are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that will say absolutely not. And that's what what Q's

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<v Speaker 1>reaction is, and basically that, of course things weren't better

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<v Speaker 1>under Trump. But what we're going to do is break

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<v Speaker 1>down some data for you, and it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be exactly what you think, but the point is for

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<v Speaker 1>us to have a critical examination of that. So one

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<v Speaker 1>of the ways that we because we've been kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about having this conversation for some time, we came

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<v Speaker 1>across a video online where there's a gentleman who kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sets us up to have the conversation we're about

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<v Speaker 1>to have. So this is a video from a person

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<v Speaker 1>named at I am the Captain the spelled with two ease.

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<v Speaker 1>I am the Captain if you want to follow his

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<v Speaker 1>social media, and he's responding to a comment left on

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<v Speaker 1>his page that reads, laud, I remember a time when

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen eggs were three dollars and gas was a

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<v Speaker 1>dollar fifty. Remember that good times been a good four years.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, this comment that was left on this

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<v Speaker 1>gentleman's page was suggesting that Joe Biden's and Biden's economic

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<v Speaker 1>policies have been very harmful, right, and things were better

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<v Speaker 1>under a Trump presidency, and so.

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<v Speaker 2>In the previous four years, yeah, right, where this person

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<v Speaker 2>is trying to get us to believe that gas was

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<v Speaker 2>a dollar fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So let's play this video from at I am

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<v Speaker 1>the Captain, and then we're going to go through and

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<v Speaker 1>do some fact checking point by point.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's going to be a funny one lord, I

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<v Speaker 3>remember when a dozen eggs worth three dollars and gas

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<v Speaker 3>was a dollar fifty. Remember that good times been a

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<v Speaker 3>good four years?

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't think this is going to go the

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<v Speaker 3>way that you think it is, So let's get started.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>First off, you remember back when eggs was three dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't exactly say much about you, because eggs were three

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<v Speaker 3>dollars last month, in February of twenty twenty four. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>your memory needs to be checked a little bit, because

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<v Speaker 3>the last time gas was a national average of dollar

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<v Speaker 3>fifty was back in two thousand and three. That's right,

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and three. Other than that, the closest has

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<v Speaker 3>come to dollar fifty would be back in twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>under President Obama. So you can't exactly give that one

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<v Speaker 3>to Donald Trump. I'm sorry to say your memory is

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<v Speaker 3>failing you, good sir. But me, oh, my memory's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember four years ago like it was yesterday. Four

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<v Speaker 3>years ago, there was no toilet paper on the shelves.

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<v Speaker 3>Four years ago, there were no eggs because the supply

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<v Speaker 3>chain had been whipped apart by the pandemic. Four years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>the entire country had to shut down because of a

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<v Speaker 3>pandemic that we weren't ready for, even though our president

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<v Speaker 3>had been briefed about it for months. A pandemic that

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<v Speaker 3>costs this country lives, jobs, and the economy. A pandemic

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<v Speaker 3>that we would have been ready for if President Trump

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<v Speaker 3>hadn't been so hell bent on deregulation that he fired

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<v Speaker 3>the pandemic response team that President Obama I had put

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<v Speaker 3>in place. So how are we doing compared to four

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<v Speaker 3>years ago today? Considering that the country was low on

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<v Speaker 3>lockdown during a pandemic, We had refrigerated trucks that were

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<v Speaker 3>being used as morgs. He had a president that was

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<v Speaker 3>a ranting, hates feeling imbecile that the entire world was

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<v Speaker 3>laughing at while he would tell people on live television

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<v Speaker 3>in order to save themselves from the pandemic that maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they can consider injecting disinfected. Where are we compared to

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<v Speaker 3>four years ago? Today? People are working today. We're drilling

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<v Speaker 3>oil more now than we ever have before in history. Today,

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<v Speaker 3>the stock market is as Hyatt's ever been. Today, the

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<v Speaker 3>economy is booming. Today. You're able to afford that maga hat,

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<v Speaker 3>that bag of shirt, and those gold Parish sneakers that

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<v Speaker 3>you keep paying to Donald Trump as he keeps pushing

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<v Speaker 3>you to pay his legal bills for the four indictments

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<v Speaker 3>and eighty eight charges that he has going against it. Today,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're doing just fine because, like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>eggs are only three dollars, and I know there's toilet

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<v Speaker 3>paper on the shelves, so that way, I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to wipe my with this comment. I think we're doing

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<v Speaker 3>just fine. Can we do better? That's how we are

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<v Speaker 3>as Americans. As Americans, we're always supposed to be striving

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<v Speaker 3>to do better, So you get educated, do better. With

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<v Speaker 3>that said, I want to thank you all for watching.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so you get it. And what we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do is kind of break that down a bit. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be as fair as we know how

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<v Speaker 1>to be. You know, integrity, journalistic integrity is very important

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<v Speaker 1>to us on the show. So first thing was the

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<v Speaker 1>February twenty twenty four eggs being three dollars. We did

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<v Speaker 1>fact check that that was accurate, so, you know, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to that comment, that wasn't a very difficult thing. We

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<v Speaker 1>did go back to two thousand and three and check

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<v Speaker 1>the gas national average of a dollar and fifty a

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<v Speaker 1>dollar fifty cents, and that was true. Gas currently sits

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<v Speaker 1>at three seventy nine a gallon, and it was as

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<v Speaker 1>low as two dollars and seventeen cents and twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>under Trump presidency. But that had more to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic than anything. And you're going to notice that

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be a theme in you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>we end up talking about here. The pandemic meant that

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<v Speaker 1>no one was driving. And for those that are familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with OPECK, the I forget that what it stands for,

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<v Speaker 1>But they're like petroleum exporting countries I think is the PEC.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the O stands for, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>organization or something like that. Anyway, OPECK controls a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the supply of oil globally. And so while the

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<v Speaker 1>United States definitely has our own oil, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times we have it in reserves in case we need

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<v Speaker 1>to go to war for the military, you know, things

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<v Speaker 1>like this. And so there's a degree of national security

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<v Speaker 1>that is associated with our oil reserves as well as

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<v Speaker 1>how much air we're able to let out of the

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<v Speaker 1>ball in the event that we end up in a

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<v Speaker 1>crisis situation and OPEK has priced you know, barrels of

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<v Speaker 1>oil too high. Right, So by having reserves, it allows

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<v Speaker 1>us the capacity to negotiate. But when they release oil

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<v Speaker 1>into the market and they you know, adjust the price

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<v Speaker 1>for us, you know, the prices fluctuate accordingly. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that is beyond the control of the president, that

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<v Speaker 1>being Trump and Joe Biden and every other president. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it, not all of it, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it. And if you want the president to, you

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<v Speaker 1>know'll adjust the price of the oil. My understanding, which

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<v Speaker 1>admittedly is not a lot, but my understanding is that

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<v Speaker 1>one of the ways the president goes about doing that

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<v Speaker 1>is by releasing oil from our reserves and that allows

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<v Speaker 1>the gas prices to ease a bit. So that's one.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you want to jump in there, no, sir, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, then let me get this next one up.

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<v Speaker 1>Then all right, So the next thing, four years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>when he says there were no toilet paper or no eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>go for it. I mean, we all remember that. That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really need to be fact checked. We all live

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<v Speaker 1>through that there was no toilet paper. I had plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of toilet paper and bidets, but that's because we had

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<v Speaker 1>a nonprofit and we worked with the MA charity. So

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's coming to get toilet paper from us. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we live through that. And one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I do want to put on firmly on the

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<v Speaker 1>former president is the response to the pandemic, because, as

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned, you're going to notice that the pandemic has

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<v Speaker 1>warped a lot of the data, and as a result,

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<v Speaker 1>people can interpret everything whatever way they want, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>all right right, including Donald Trump, unfortunately. But I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to set this one right at Donald Trump's feet. Quick story.

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<v Speaker 1>Once upon a time here in Arizona, where we do

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<v Speaker 1>our show, I was a part of a health initiative

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<v Speaker 1>or a Maricopa County you know, I was a radio

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<v Speaker 1>personality and needed someone with some reputation to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get this initiative out right. And as a result, I

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<v Speaker 1>had to work with the Maricopa County Department of Public

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<v Speaker 1>Health and they had a liaison from the Center for

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<v Speaker 1>Disease Control, doctor Taylor. Doctor Taylor was a good friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine. We worked very well together, right. She put

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<v Speaker 1>me on billboards all over the city, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was cool with that. As a result, I was

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<v Speaker 1>tapped into the CDC. Anytime I saw it as a headline,

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<v Speaker 1>I was alert, and President Obama put together a pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>response team. Maybe not directly, maybe it was indirectly. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure exactly, but I know that it was under

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<v Speaker 1>kind of his watch because that was a significant threat.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was held bent on deregulation and cutting through

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<v Speaker 1>government red tape so businesses could thrive.

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<v Speaker 2>And not just deregulation in general, but specifically industry regulating

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<v Speaker 2>things that the former president put it. Let's be clear

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<v Speaker 2>about yea, let's let's get rid of everything Obama did.

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<v Speaker 2>Obama did so watch this. He pulled that money back

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<v Speaker 2>from the CDC and dismantled that pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>Response fire those people. Let's be remember seeing that article

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like wow. And then right before his

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<v Speaker 1>presidency was over, we got hit with the pandemic. And

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like a handful of people, to be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>did make that connection. And this gentleman that whose video

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<v Speaker 1>we just saw, he did make that connection. But surprisingly

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<v Speaker 1>few people make that connection that we were vulnerable because

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<v Speaker 1>of a decision he made well into his presidency and

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<v Speaker 1>then the pandemic hit us. But not just that. You

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<v Speaker 1>remember all those trains get going off the tracks and derailing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then those environmental spills and all that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that it was like a few of them in

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<v Speaker 1>a rollers, like six or eight of them, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mistaken. All of that was the result of Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's deregulation as well. Right, So, these small communities, these

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<v Speaker 1>mom and pop towns or whatever around the country also

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<v Speaker 1>suffered as a result, and they're not the only industries.

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<v Speaker 1>And we talked about environment environmental racism from time to

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<v Speaker 1>time on this show, but the truth is that deregulation

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<v Speaker 1>disproportionately affects black people. Please look up environmental racism and

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<v Speaker 1>you understand the little bit of protections that it exist

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<v Speaker 1>often protect black and brown.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also a disproportionate effect on poor people.

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<v Speaker 1>That right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's important to say because the society has been set

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<v Speaker 2>up in a way where there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>poor black and brown people, but poor white people get

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<v Speaker 2>hit by these twings too, And that's why there is

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<v Speaker 2>a segment of our population that hears words like white

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<v Speaker 2>privilege and are confused by it because they live in

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<v Speaker 2>a society where they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>When they look around, they don't feel privileged at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Except those same people go to the polls and vote,

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<v Speaker 2>and they lobby and organize against their own best interests

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<v Speaker 2>because they've been tricked into feeling like these others are

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<v Speaker 2>responsible for the bad position that they're in when they're

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<v Speaker 2>electing public officials to go forth on their behalf, and

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<v Speaker 2>those people don't represent their best interests, like our former

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<v Speaker 2>president who convinced them that he cared about them so much,

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<v Speaker 2>and that they should build a wall to keep out

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<v Speaker 2>the people that are coming to distill their jobs and

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<v Speaker 2>harm their children.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's this, let's let's keep it moving. The refrigerated

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<v Speaker 1>trucks used as morgs. That is true, obviously, that that

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<v Speaker 1>happened during COVID So that was one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>he mentioned in his video. More jobs, more drilling, oil,

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<v Speaker 1>the stock market, high, economy booming. So one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I can say is that it is true

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and three thousand jobs were added back and

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<v Speaker 1>this was an headline as of three weeks ago. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to share a bit from an article that

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<v Speaker 1>talks about the statistics that both sides are using. This

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<v Speaker 1>is from politico dot com and it says Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>misleading you with COVID era statistics, so is Biden. Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and Biden are both campaigning on worked economic statistics, cherry

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<v Speaker 1>picking weird data from the COVID crisis. I'm me just

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<v Speaker 1>share a bit. You can again check out the article

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<v Speaker 1>once again, it's at politico dot com. In just a

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<v Speaker 1>bit here, according to Donald Trump, if he oversaw sky

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<v Speaker 1>high economic growth, soaring markets, and half century low unemployment.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden says Trump was the first president to preside

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<v Speaker 1>over a net loss in jobs since Herbert Hoover. Biden

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<v Speaker 1>boasted his own presidency is defined by booming job growth

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<v Speaker 1>and plunging deficits. Trump says consumers haven't felt worse in

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<v Speaker 1>decades because of inflation. The weird thing is they're both

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<v Speaker 1>right about everything, and that's something that we need to

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind, right, it's that this data can be

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<v Speaker 1>used to manipulate us. Now, the truth is, if it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like your dollar goes as far as it should,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not wrong. So when Donald Trump says the consumers

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden is aware of that. You know, the corporations

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<v Speaker 1>were able to take advantage of us because there was

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<v Speaker 1>no legal framework in place during the pandemic for them

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<v Speaker 1>to price gouge us and not have the prices you know,

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<v Speaker 1>level back out. So word inflation is used very cleverly here.

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<v Speaker 1>When it's mostly corporate greed and prices, it's shrink flation.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it doesn't feel like that, well, what we

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<v Speaker 1>need is more a governmental regulation, not the old president.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that's that's also very true

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<v Speaker 1>is that Donald Trump is a far worse offender. Politics

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<v Speaker 1>is the name of the game. People want themselves to

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<v Speaker 1>look good so that voters can vote for them. This

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<v Speaker 1>article is not telling us anything that we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about any other policies.

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<v Speaker 2>It's telling a lot of people a lot of that

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't know. It's not telling us anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to understand there are a lot of voters

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<v Speaker 2>that clarify the data that's presented to them and these silos,

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<v Speaker 2>and they dismiss any information that's not being given to

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<v Speaker 2>them by the source they choose to get their information from.

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<v Speaker 2>So this might be straightforward information for you and I,

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<v Speaker 2>but for a lot of our listeners not so much.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a fair point. Well, hopefully we've given you a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to think about. But with that in mind, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to leave it right there. As always, i'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to thank you for spending some time with us here

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, I've been your host.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these conversations are rarely fun, but we feel like

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