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Speaker 1: in store. We are going to be talking about whether
Speaker 1: or not things were better under Trump.
Speaker 2: Okay, so ione, let Rams has handle this.
Speaker 1: Y'all have a good week.
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Speaker 1: Peace. Listen, this is kind of what's what's going back
Speaker 1: and forth. There's a lot of goings on on the internet.
Speaker 1: You know, black mails, are not voting for Biden, and
Speaker 1: you know all kinds of stuff, right, So we're really
Speaker 1: going to have a critical examination, a data based examination
Speaker 1: of whether or not that's true. So I employed to
Speaker 1: stick around for that because I think we got our
Speaker 1: numbers lined up here. But before we get there, it's
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Speaker 1: autistic people. But the article came from this Prweek magazine.
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Speaker 1: that employs individuals with autism, and honor of Wealth Autism
Speaker 1: Awareness Day, The Inner Public Group Agency began working with
Speaker 1: the organization in twenty twenty two on a pilot program
Speaker 1: that integrated people with autism into the work streams of
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Speaker 1: Autonomy Works associates have supported the agency and its teams
Speaker 1: over the last year and a half by taking on
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Speaker 1: and reporting. According to Covin, as a result of the
Speaker 1: work and the integration of aid associates. The Inner Public
Speaker 1: Group Agency is working to grow its partnerships so that
Speaker 1: Autonomy Works members can bring their specialized talents to more
Speaker 1: client accounts, sectors and sectors. The firm stead in a statement,
Speaker 1: So the short version of it is that this company,
Speaker 1: Autonomy Works, decided that first off, the CEO's son was autistic.
Speaker 1: He started doing a task and realized, you know what,
Speaker 1: my son would be really great at this task. Right,
Speaker 1: autonomy Works. Then they set up a program to hire
Speaker 1: people who are autistic, who really enjoy doing routine tasks
Speaker 1: and are really detail oriented and very focused. And they
Speaker 1: are able to pay these people great wages, get them
Speaker 1: a place in society, and they are centering people who
Speaker 1: really you could use that support. And I think that's
Speaker 1: a tremendous example of becoming a better allies. So shout
Speaker 1: out to Autonomy Works. All right? Were things better under Trump? Okay?
Speaker 2: All right, so I appreciate y'all being with me this
Speaker 2: week is going to take you guys home with this one,
Speaker 2: because oh man, that's nonsense on his face, that we
Speaker 2: we just made my stomach hurt a little bit. So
Speaker 2: So so okay, now what you was talking about is
Speaker 2: for those of us who you know what, We're not
Speaker 2: even going to talk about black people.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about our Mexican American brothers and sisters.
Speaker 1: We live in the southwest of the United States. We
Speaker 1: spend all of our time in Vegas, Phoenix, California, all
Speaker 1: places that were once Mexico. The people that live here
Speaker 1: have lived here for a very long time, long before
Speaker 1: this was the United States of a Maria. They never
Speaker 1: heard of that, They never heard of English. Right twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump wins the election campaigning on building a wall
Speaker 1: to separate Mexico from the United States. Okay, a lot
Speaker 1: of people who lived here were very concerned about that
Speaker 1: rhetoric and that divisiveness. And despite whatever policies, whatever life
Speaker 1: would have been better under Trump, our Mexican American brothers
Speaker 1: and sisters, I should say, many of our Mexican American
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters felt that angst living under that presidency
Speaker 1: because he was a person that was playing you know, conservative,
Speaker 1: fearful white voters' greatest hits. They're stealing your jobs, they're
Speaker 1: you know, anchor having anchor babies, They're they're draining the
Speaker 1: economy on and on and on. This is what it's saying,
Speaker 1: and that that rhetoric makes life very challenging for people
Speaker 1: that live in Phoenix, that live in California.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 1: Texas, in the Southwest, right, et cetera. So add to
Speaker 1: that that the people that were supporting Trump, and Trump
Speaker 1: was saying, you know, stand back and stand by, you know,
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. Those people, the bona fide racists
Speaker 1: that Trump never denounced, that never, He just kind of
Speaker 1: took it all in stride. He knew who he was
Speaker 1: speaking to, he knows how to speak that coded language.
Speaker 2: Those people were straightforward to denounce these questions.
Speaker 1: Wouldnot, But those people were emboldened under a Trump presidency.
Speaker 1: I had never seen more racism, you know, in my
Speaker 1: adult life than under more overt yes, overt out loud
Speaker 1: right there, you.
Speaker 2: Go, straight forward, uncoded, aggressive, violent racism.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: That is man Well said, you should write a book
Speaker 2: my children like yours. Yeah, our former president would have
Speaker 2: loved for them to be on the other side of
Speaker 2: that wall he bragged about building. So it was a
Speaker 2: very very personal thing to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know that he doubled down a few times,
Speaker 1: you know, with the s whole countries and what type
Speaker 1: of people he wanted migrating here, you know, and he
Speaker 1: named his white countries and then his proposed Muslim band
Speaker 1: from all the brown country, all this sort of stuff, right,
Speaker 1: So this is this coded sort of language that again
Speaker 1: speaks to the people that are already predisposed to hating
Speaker 1: and I have already sort of adopted a very divisive
Speaker 1: advantage point of how people should live their lives. So
Speaker 1: when we asked the question were things better under Trump
Speaker 1: through that lens only, there are a lot of people
Speaker 1: that will say absolutely not. And that's what what Q's
Speaker 1: reaction is, and basically that, of course things weren't better
Speaker 1: under Trump. But what we're going to do is break
Speaker 1: down some data for you, and it's not going to
Speaker 1: be exactly what you think, but the point is for
Speaker 1: us to have a critical examination of that. So one
Speaker 1: of the ways that we because we've been kind of
Speaker 1: thinking about having this conversation for some time, we came
Speaker 1: across a video online where there's a gentleman who kind
Speaker 1: of sets us up to have the conversation we're about
Speaker 1: to have. So this is a video from a person
Speaker 1: named at I am the Captain the spelled with two ease.
Speaker 1: I am the Captain if you want to follow his
Speaker 1: social media, and he's responding to a comment left on
Speaker 1: his page that reads, laud, I remember a time when
Speaker 1: a dozen eggs were three dollars and gas was a
Speaker 1: dollar fifty. Remember that good times been a good four years.
Speaker 1: In other words, this comment that was left on this
Speaker 1: gentleman's page was suggesting that Joe Biden's and Biden's economic
Speaker 1: policies have been very harmful, right, and things were better
Speaker 1: under a Trump presidency, and so.
Speaker 2: In the previous four years, yeah, right, where this person
Speaker 2: is trying to get us to believe that gas was
Speaker 2: a dollar fifty.
Speaker 1: Right, So let's play this video from at I am
Speaker 1: the Captain, and then we're going to go through and
Speaker 1: do some fact checking point by point.
Speaker 3: So it's going to be a funny one lord, I
Speaker 3: remember when a dozen eggs worth three dollars and gas
Speaker 3: was a dollar fifty. Remember that good times been a
Speaker 3: good four years?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: So I don't think this is going to go the
Speaker 3: way that you think it is, So let's get started.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: First off, you remember back when eggs was three dollars.
Speaker 3: Doesn't exactly say much about you, because eggs were three
Speaker 3: dollars last month, in February of twenty twenty four. Also,
Speaker 3: your memory needs to be checked a little bit, because
Speaker 3: the last time gas was a national average of dollar
Speaker 3: fifty was back in two thousand and three. That's right,
Speaker 3: two thousand and three. Other than that, the closest has
Speaker 3: come to dollar fifty would be back in twenty sixteen
Speaker 3: under President Obama. So you can't exactly give that one
Speaker 3: to Donald Trump. I'm sorry to say your memory is
Speaker 3: failing you, good sir. But me, oh, my memory's great.
Speaker 3: I remember four years ago like it was yesterday. Four
Speaker 3: years ago, there was no toilet paper on the shelves.
Speaker 3: Four years ago, there were no eggs because the supply
Speaker 3: chain had been whipped apart by the pandemic. Four years ago,
Speaker 3: the entire country had to shut down because of a
Speaker 3: pandemic that we weren't ready for, even though our president
Speaker 3: had been briefed about it for months. A pandemic that
Speaker 3: costs this country lives, jobs, and the economy. A pandemic
Speaker 3: that we would have been ready for if President Trump
Speaker 3: hadn't been so hell bent on deregulation that he fired
Speaker 3: the pandemic response team that President Obama I had put
Speaker 3: in place. So how are we doing compared to four
Speaker 3: years ago today? Considering that the country was low on
Speaker 3: lockdown during a pandemic, We had refrigerated trucks that were
Speaker 3: being used as morgs. He had a president that was
Speaker 3: a ranting, hates feeling imbecile that the entire world was
Speaker 3: laughing at while he would tell people on live television
Speaker 3: in order to save themselves from the pandemic that maybe
Speaker 3: they can consider injecting disinfected. Where are we compared to
Speaker 3: four years ago? Today? People are working today. We're drilling
Speaker 3: oil more now than we ever have before in history. Today,
Speaker 3: the stock market is as Hyatt's ever been. Today, the
Speaker 3: economy is booming. Today. You're able to afford that maga hat,
Speaker 3: that bag of shirt, and those gold Parish sneakers that
Speaker 3: you keep paying to Donald Trump as he keeps pushing
Speaker 3: you to pay his legal bills for the four indictments
Speaker 3: and eighty eight charges that he has going against it. Today,
Speaker 3: I think we're doing just fine because, like you said,
Speaker 3: eggs are only three dollars, and I know there's toilet
Speaker 3: paper on the shelves, so that way, I don't have
Speaker 3: to wipe my with this comment. I think we're doing
Speaker 3: just fine. Can we do better? That's how we are
Speaker 3: as Americans. As Americans, we're always supposed to be striving
Speaker 3: to do better, So you get educated, do better. With
Speaker 3: that said, I want to thank you all for watching.
Speaker 1: All right, so you get it. And what we're gonna
Speaker 1: do is kind of break that down a bit. Now,
Speaker 1: we're going to be as fair as we know how
Speaker 1: to be. You know, integrity, journalistic integrity is very important
Speaker 1: to us on the show. So first thing was the
Speaker 1: February twenty twenty four eggs being three dollars. We did
Speaker 1: fact check that that was accurate, so, you know, speaking
Speaker 1: to that comment, that wasn't a very difficult thing. We
Speaker 1: did go back to two thousand and three and check
Speaker 1: the gas national average of a dollar and fifty a
Speaker 1: dollar fifty cents, and that was true. Gas currently sits
Speaker 1: at three seventy nine a gallon, and it was as
Speaker 1: low as two dollars and seventeen cents and twenty twenty
Speaker 1: under Trump presidency. But that had more to do with
Speaker 1: the pandemic than anything. And you're going to notice that
Speaker 1: that's going to be a theme in you know, what
Speaker 1: we end up talking about here. The pandemic meant that
Speaker 1: no one was driving. And for those that are familiar
Speaker 1: with OPECK, the I forget that what it stands for,
Speaker 1: But they're like petroleum exporting countries I think is the PEC.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the O stands for, but maybe
Speaker 1: organization or something like that. Anyway, OPECK controls a lot
Speaker 1: of the supply of oil globally. And so while the
Speaker 1: United States definitely has our own oil, a lot of
Speaker 1: times we have it in reserves in case we need
Speaker 1: to go to war for the military, you know, things
Speaker 1: like this. And so there's a degree of national security
Speaker 1: that is associated with our oil reserves as well as
Speaker 1: how much air we're able to let out of the
Speaker 1: ball in the event that we end up in a
Speaker 1: crisis situation and OPEK has priced you know, barrels of
Speaker 1: oil too high. Right, So by having reserves, it allows
Speaker 1: us the capacity to negotiate. But when they release oil
Speaker 1: into the market and they you know, adjust the price
Speaker 1: for us, you know, the prices fluctuate accordingly. A lot
Speaker 1: of that is beyond the control of the president, that
Speaker 1: being Trump and Joe Biden and every other president. A
Speaker 1: lot of it, not all of it, but a lot
Speaker 1: of it. And if you want the president to, you
Speaker 1: know'll adjust the price of the oil. My understanding, which
Speaker 1: admittedly is not a lot, but my understanding is that
Speaker 1: one of the ways the president goes about doing that
Speaker 1: is by releasing oil from our reserves and that allows
Speaker 1: the gas prices to ease a bit. So that's one.
Speaker 1: Did you want to jump in there, no, sir, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, then let me get this next one up.
Speaker 1: Then all right, So the next thing, four years ago,
Speaker 1: when he says there were no toilet paper or no eggs,
Speaker 1: go for it. I mean, we all remember that. That
Speaker 1: doesn't really need to be fact checked. We all live
Speaker 1: through that there was no toilet paper. I had plenty
Speaker 1: of toilet paper and bidets, but that's because we had
Speaker 1: a nonprofit and we worked with the MA charity. So
Speaker 1: everyone's coming to get toilet paper from us. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so we live through that. And one of the things
Speaker 1: that I do want to put on firmly on the
Speaker 1: former president is the response to the pandemic, because, as
Speaker 1: I mentioned, you're going to notice that the pandemic has
Speaker 1: warped a lot of the data, and as a result,
Speaker 1: people can interpret everything whatever way they want, and they're
Speaker 1: all right right, including Donald Trump, unfortunately. But I'm going
Speaker 1: to set this one right at Donald Trump's feet. Quick story.
Speaker 1: Once upon a time here in Arizona, where we do
Speaker 1: our show, I was a part of a health initiative
Speaker 1: or a Maricopa County you know, I was a radio
Speaker 1: personality and needed someone with some reputation to you know,
Speaker 1: get this initiative out right. And as a result, I
Speaker 1: had to work with the Maricopa County Department of Public
Speaker 1: Health and they had a liaison from the Center for
Speaker 1: Disease Control, doctor Taylor. Doctor Taylor was a good friend
Speaker 1: of mine. We worked very well together, right. She put
Speaker 1: me on billboards all over the city, so you know,
Speaker 1: I was cool with that. As a result, I was
Speaker 1: tapped into the CDC. Anytime I saw it as a headline,
Speaker 1: I was alert, and President Obama put together a pandemic
Speaker 1: response team. Maybe not directly, maybe it was indirectly. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure exactly, but I know that it was under
Speaker 1: kind of his watch because that was a significant threat.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was held bent on deregulation and cutting through
Speaker 1: government red tape so businesses could thrive.
Speaker 2: And not just deregulation in general, but specifically industry regulating
Speaker 2: things that the former president put it. Let's be clear
Speaker 2: about yea, let's let's get rid of everything Obama did.
Speaker 2: Obama did so watch this. He pulled that money back
Speaker 2: from the CDC and dismantled that pandemic.
Speaker 1: Response fire those people. Let's be remember seeing that article
Speaker 1: and I was like wow. And then right before his
Speaker 1: presidency was over, we got hit with the pandemic. And
Speaker 1: it seems like a handful of people, to be fair,
Speaker 1: did make that connection. And this gentleman that whose video
Speaker 1: we just saw, he did make that connection. But surprisingly
Speaker 1: few people make that connection that we were vulnerable because
Speaker 1: of a decision he made well into his presidency and
Speaker 1: then the pandemic hit us. But not just that. You
Speaker 1: remember all those trains get going off the tracks and derailing,
Speaker 1: and then those environmental spills and all that sort of
Speaker 1: stuff that it was like a few of them in
Speaker 1: a rollers, like six or eight of them, if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken. All of that was the result of Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's deregulation as well. Right, So, these small communities, these
Speaker 1: mom and pop towns or whatever around the country also
Speaker 1: suffered as a result, and they're not the only industries.
Speaker 1: And we talked about environment environmental racism from time to
Speaker 1: time on this show, but the truth is that deregulation
Speaker 1: disproportionately affects black people. Please look up environmental racism and
Speaker 1: you understand the little bit of protections that it exist
Speaker 1: often protect black and brown.
Speaker 2: There's also a disproportionate effect on poor people.
Speaker 1: That right.
Speaker 2: That's important to say because the society has been set
Speaker 2: up in a way where there are a lot of
Speaker 2: poor black and brown people, but poor white people get
Speaker 2: hit by these twings too, And that's why there is
Speaker 2: a segment of our population that hears words like white
Speaker 2: privilege and are confused by it because they live in
Speaker 2: a society where they don't.
Speaker 1: When they look around, they don't feel privileged at all.
Speaker 2: Except those same people go to the polls and vote,
Speaker 2: and they lobby and organize against their own best interests
Speaker 2: because they've been tricked into feeling like these others are
Speaker 2: responsible for the bad position that they're in when they're
Speaker 2: electing public officials to go forth on their behalf, and
Speaker 2: those people don't represent their best interests, like our former
Speaker 2: president who convinced them that he cared about them so much,
Speaker 2: and that they should build a wall to keep out
Speaker 2: the people that are coming to distill their jobs and
Speaker 2: harm their children.
Speaker 1: So that's this, let's let's keep it moving. The refrigerated
Speaker 1: trucks used as morgs. That is true, obviously, that that
Speaker 1: happened during COVID So that was one of the things
Speaker 1: he mentioned in his video. More jobs, more drilling, oil,
Speaker 1: the stock market, high, economy booming. So one of the
Speaker 1: things that I can say is that it is true
Speaker 1: three hundred and three thousand jobs were added back and
Speaker 1: this was an headline as of three weeks ago. But
Speaker 1: I'm going to share a bit from an article that
Speaker 1: talks about the statistics that both sides are using. This
Speaker 1: is from politico dot com and it says Trump is
Speaker 1: misleading you with COVID era statistics, so is Biden. Trump
Speaker 1: and Biden are both campaigning on worked economic statistics, cherry
Speaker 1: picking weird data from the COVID crisis. I'm me just
Speaker 1: share a bit. You can again check out the article
Speaker 1: once again, it's at politico dot com. In just a
Speaker 1: bit here, according to Donald Trump, if he oversaw sky
Speaker 1: high economic growth, soaring markets, and half century low unemployment.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden says Trump was the first president to preside
Speaker 1: over a net loss in jobs since Herbert Hoover. Biden
Speaker 1: boasted his own presidency is defined by booming job growth
Speaker 1: and plunging deficits. Trump says consumers haven't felt worse in
Speaker 1: decades because of inflation. The weird thing is they're both
Speaker 1: right about everything, and that's something that we need to
Speaker 1: keep in mind, right, it's that this data can be
Speaker 1: used to manipulate us. Now, the truth is, if it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like your dollar goes as far as it should,
Speaker 1: you're not wrong. So when Donald Trump says the consumers
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, you know.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is aware of that. You know, the corporations
Speaker 1: were able to take advantage of us because there was
Speaker 1: no legal framework in place during the pandemic for them
Speaker 1: to price gouge us and not have the prices you know,
Speaker 1: level back out. So word inflation is used very cleverly here.
Speaker 1: When it's mostly corporate greed and prices, it's shrink flation.
Speaker 1: So if it doesn't feel like that, well, what we
Speaker 1: need is more a governmental regulation, not the old president.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that's that's also very true
Speaker 1: is that Donald Trump is a far worse offender. Politics
Speaker 1: is the name of the game. People want themselves to
Speaker 1: look good so that voters can vote for them. This
Speaker 1: article is not telling us anything that we don't know
Speaker 1: about any other policies.
Speaker 2: It's telling a lot of people a lot of that
Speaker 2: they didn't know. It's not telling us anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2: You have to understand there are a lot of voters
Speaker 2: that clarify the data that's presented to them and these silos,
Speaker 2: and they dismiss any information that's not being given to
Speaker 2: them by the source they choose to get their information from.
Speaker 2: So this might be straightforward information for you and I,
Speaker 2: but for a lot of our listeners not so much.
Speaker 2: That's a fair point. Well, hopefully we've given you a
Speaker 2: lot to think about. But with that in mind, we're
Speaker 2: going to leave it right there. As always, i'd like
Speaker 2: to thank you for spending some time with us here
Speaker 2: on Civic Cipher.
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