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Speaker 1: s WBC studios. We've got a lot to talk about
Speaker 1: over this past week in Cowboys Nation. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: so over the next forty five minutes. Alongside I says,
Speaker 1: stand back, I got Chris Beam in the back. I'm
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's Patrick. No see Walker makes his triumphant return.
Speaker 1: He rested up. You're ready to go for the rest
Speaker 1: of the office. You know what, I feel, fantastic. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, Eagles lost, you know, so I just feel
Speaker 1: only it wasn't. It wasn't. Two weeks I'm still reveling.
Speaker 1: I'm still basking in the glow of the bitter rival
Speaker 1: falling to the Kansas City Chiefs and the fashion in
Speaker 1: which they did. Because I was told, you know, over
Speaker 1: the course of this past season. In season's past, I
Speaker 1: was told by a certain fan base not to blame
Speaker 1: the refs because that's making excuses um. And yet fast
Speaker 1: forward to Super Bowl fifty seven and you know the
Speaker 1: outcome of that and what happened. And you know what's
Speaker 1: funny to me, though, fellas is I mean credit to
Speaker 1: James Bradberry. That guy stood up and basically said, he
Speaker 1: admitted he was like I held him and you know,
Speaker 1: I was hoping I'd get away with it and I didn't.
Speaker 1: And even with that admission being publican out there, you know,
Speaker 1: the complainers, Oh, shut up in take your lu Now,
Speaker 1: what are you to say? Nothing? I just want to
Speaker 1: get him going a little bit. Isaiah. I'm going to
Speaker 1: part Yeah. Hi, what do you say to those that
Speaker 1: are saying that that Cowboys? I mean, the Eagles just
Speaker 1: live rent free of the Cowboys head. They're celebrating this loss,
Speaker 1: they're doing all that. What say you to those people
Speaker 1: that's a turn about? Is fair play? That's what I said.
Speaker 1: I said, hashtag keep that energy, Okay, I say this
Speaker 1: is also the Super Bowl and there was literally no
Speaker 1: other football contest going on that weekend or that day
Speaker 1: So it's not as if fans of other teams, be
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys, the Giants, or any other of the
Speaker 1: other thirty teams were doing anything other than tuned into
Speaker 1: this particular game. So voice, this isn't rent free. Everybody
Speaker 1: was watching because it's the Super Bowl, and you wanted
Speaker 1: everybody to watch if you're an Eagles fan, because you
Speaker 1: thought you be able to rub it all in everybody's face,
Speaker 1: particularly Cowboys fans. And see ah ha haha for literally,
Speaker 1: guess what for nothing? For nothing, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you're sitting with the same amount of hardware
Speaker 1: from the twenty twenty two season that the Dallas Cowboys are,
Speaker 1: that the Giants are, that the Commanders are, that the
Speaker 1: other teams are. So kudos also to the Kansas City Chiefs,
Speaker 1: because while I'm sitting here having my fund railing against
Speaker 1: those bums in Philly, and I did say they'd be
Speaker 1: exposed when they played a good, really good quarterback. I did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there we go. Roses to Eric bi Enemy and Andy
Speaker 1: Reid and Patrick Mahomes and just how that team was
Speaker 1: coached in the Super Bowl. The biggest thing for me
Speaker 1: is it's two plays that were my biggest takeaways one
Speaker 1: when Bradberry got away with the obvious holding on Juju
Speaker 1: in the first half to come back and go with
Speaker 1: that same play in the fourth quarter, hoping that the
Speaker 1: ref would see it. Patrick targeted him, pointed it out.
Speaker 1: That was just football, Like you the slide at the
Speaker 1: two yard line to make sure you don't score early.
Speaker 1: That's coaching. That's just fantastic coaching. So little things like
Speaker 1: that is what separates the Kansas City Chiefs from even
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. SOS for those that are saying, well,
Speaker 1: what's the difference between the Chiefs and the Eagles and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? How far the Cowboys have to go to
Speaker 1: get to that level? Not far at all. They're closed.
Speaker 1: They just need consistency and execution, tracking up some things
Speaker 1: as far as how they run both sides of the ball,
Speaker 1: and they'll get there. But that's for twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: For now, I feel magnificent, fantastic, and glorious because the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles went fourteen and three for nothing. Buffet's chest
Speaker 1: out a little bit. I love it. Isaiah. How are
Speaker 1: you to that? I'm good man. How y'all doing? Are
Speaker 1: you that good? I'm fine? I mean it honestly didn't
Speaker 1: matter if it's not Dallas for Seattle, I don't freaking
Speaker 1: care Seattle's hometown Dallas and squad obviously I take a chance.
Speaker 1: I'll go to give you the crap though. I mean
Speaker 1: they had a chance. That's all. I mean, all three
Speaker 1: of us would be close. All you asked for every
Speaker 1: year is that you have a chance to win a ring. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's and they had the best chance out of any
Speaker 1: other team inside from Kansas City in this league to
Speaker 1: win a ring. Yes, and that's what that's what you
Speaker 1: put your yourself in a position for it. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. They didn't they didn't get
Speaker 1: the dub so but but you would like to be
Speaker 1: in the position that they were in. Oh you will. Look,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that's that's that's your goal.
Speaker 1: So I mean, obviously Dallas's go every year, that's every
Speaker 1: organization's goal. Um to get there is something as something
Speaker 1: else to put put it on the put it on
Speaker 1: the wall, on the board and say that's a goal.
Speaker 1: And then they execute. You know what they did in
Speaker 1: terms of the front office and all those things that
Speaker 1: that helped them get to that point. It didn't pay
Speaker 1: off in the end, but it helped them get to
Speaker 1: that point. They had a chance it did, right, So
Speaker 1: that's and that's all you ask for. Right. What I
Speaker 1: would say is the same thing I was saying prior
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, you know, November December, when you
Speaker 1: saw the run that the Eagles were going on, set
Speaker 1: it on this program, set it offline to you guys
Speaker 1: in other colleagues, that being that this is a league
Speaker 1: that's so dominated by parody. You felt like, because that
Speaker 1: was one of the more special seasons in the history
Speaker 1: of that franchise, that they really needed to capitalize on
Speaker 1: that with a Super Bowl win. Not doing so and
Speaker 1: then immediately not only do you lose the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: you lose it in the fashion in which you did so.
Speaker 1: Now super Bowl hangover comes into play. See if that's
Speaker 1: the thing. But we'll see if it's the thing for
Speaker 1: the Eagles. But it's been a thing for several teams,
Speaker 1: and we can go down the list, but we won't.
Speaker 1: Those teams don't make the playoffs the years after. The
Speaker 1: Bengals did this year, and of course they won a
Speaker 1: game in the playoffs against the Bills, but that was
Speaker 1: out of the ordinary and recent member. It was an aberration.
Speaker 1: And then on the heels of that, you lose both
Speaker 1: your OC and your DC. I know Eagles fans are like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're glad Gannon is going. Yeah, you wouldn't. You weren't
Speaker 1: saying that before the Super Bowl, so cut it. So
Speaker 1: you lose your OC, lose your DC. So you got
Speaker 1: some continuity issues there on the heels of what might
Speaker 1: be a Super Bowl hangover. So for clarity for those
Speaker 1: that were saying I was by pointing out parody exists
Speaker 1: and it might happen to the Eagles. I wasn't saying
Speaker 1: they will go to a four win team. That's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. They're going to be in content for the
Speaker 1: NFC East again. I'm saying they're not going and I'll
Speaker 1: say it right now with my chest on the Tuesday.
Speaker 1: They're not going fourteen and three again next year. They're
Speaker 1: not going fifteen and two, sixteen and one. I see
Speaker 1: them now having to kind of reset at OC a
Speaker 1: little bit, reset at DC. The amount of free agents
Speaker 1: they have. They have enough draft picks to reload. But
Speaker 1: I see them as, let's say, a ten win team.
Speaker 1: So if you're ten and seven. I don't know that
Speaker 1: ten and seven wins the East next year, which is
Speaker 1: a fund because now you got Eric b in Washington
Speaker 1: and a quarterback. Oh yeah, yeah, we're gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1: That's actually my third day. Yeah. I see the Eagles
Speaker 1: still being a ten win team, but I don't know
Speaker 1: that ten wins gets you then. Regular season don't do
Speaker 1: a dog on thing for me. It's all about the playoffs.
Speaker 1: It's all about them play but you don't get without
Speaker 1: the regular season. You don't get there without performing in
Speaker 1: the regular season. We slid in the playoffs, but you
Speaker 1: still got in. But you got it. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how you get in. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: how you get it. That's what I'm saying. The regular
Speaker 1: season doesn't matter. Nine and also at the couples went
Speaker 1: twelve and five and right. So again, I don't know
Speaker 1: that ten wins gets it done in this NFC East
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty three. It's going to be a fun
Speaker 1: uh next year because I think parody kind of puts
Speaker 1: a dent in the Eagles armor. Cowboys presumably take a
Speaker 1: step forward. I hate to say it, but you know,
Speaker 1: we see the Giants taking that step forward. I think
Speaker 1: they take another step forward. I think contention the top
Speaker 1: the NFC East is gonna be white hot between the Eagles,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Giants with the Cosmanders like right there
Speaker 1: if they can get that ques. This was the year
Speaker 1: that almost all four teams win in Yes, yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to stop talking about this right now because I
Speaker 1: want to talk about it later. All right, sound good.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about it later just because I
Speaker 1: want to do the state of the NFC East going
Speaker 1: into the off season in our third segments. So let's
Speaker 1: let's talk about it there. Let's talk cowboys. Hello, let's
Speaker 1: talk cowboys, talking cowboys. This is talking cowboys. Today opens
Speaker 1: up a two week window for teams to use the
Speaker 1: franchise tag or the transition tag you're on free agents
Speaker 1: within the organization. Cowboys have used it five straight years.
Speaker 1: They used it on d Law d Law, Dak Dak
Speaker 1: and Dalton Shoal. You almost pull the dig DeMarcus, DeMarcus, Dak,
Speaker 1: Dak and Dalton Yeah, straight five straight a TPS. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be then, or could be Donovan Wilson, or could
Speaker 1: be Dalton Scholtz again. Or could be Laton vander esh.
Speaker 1: I wanted to outline the possibilities here for the Cowboys. Okay,
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is the most likely ninety eight percent possible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe even ninety eight point six temperature type possibility. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be Tony Pollard that would get the franchise tag
Speaker 1: ten point one million. That's a number that's actually not
Speaker 1: too far off of his market value. It would benefit
Speaker 1: both parties to get a long term deal done so
Speaker 1: you can tag him. He doesn't have to sign the tag.
Speaker 1: He can wait a little bit longer and then sign
Speaker 1: that later. Dalton Schultz it would be thirteen point one
Speaker 1: a couple million more than when he got paid this
Speaker 1: past year, which, of course that felt like it was
Speaker 1: maybe a little overpay in that regard. Layton vander esh
Speaker 1: is another option as an unretricted free agent. LVEE would
Speaker 1: be owed twenty point nine nearly twenty one million. That's
Speaker 1: probably not going to happen. I would you remember that
Speaker 1: horse from Rent and Stimpy? Yeah, no, sir, I don't
Speaker 1: like it. I don't like it. Donovan Wilson would be
Speaker 1: fourteen and a half million. I don't think that's happening either. So,
Speaker 1: out of the four options, the most likely of the
Speaker 1: two is probably Dalton Schultz, but by far, far, and away,
Speaker 1: the number one option to be tagged is Tony Pollard.
Speaker 1: So I ask you, gentlemen, the question would you do
Speaker 1: with Patrick? I absolutely would. I would for Tony Pollard.
Speaker 1: You see the breakout year that he had once fully unleashed.
Speaker 1: You don't know quite yet how the conversation is going
Speaker 1: to go with Ezekie Elliott. You would like to believe
Speaker 1: that that will end admicably. As far as maybe Ezeq
Speaker 1: Eliot will hopefully take a Payriod duction in order to
Speaker 1: keep Tony Pollard, I think that he would be I've
Speaker 1: you know, I've said this several times and I'm still
Speaker 1: on that hill. But Tony Pollard, I mean, after seeing
Speaker 1: what he did last year, you don't want him to
Speaker 1: hit the open market. He hits the open market and
Speaker 1: those bags get really difficult to contend with from other
Speaker 1: teams as far as offers are concerned. So go ahead
Speaker 1: and like Isaiah said, tag you're a freeze, tag right,
Speaker 1: tag don't move? Got you right? And then that'll buy
Speaker 1: you until July fourteenth to negotiate a long term deal
Speaker 1: potentially something they weren't able to do with Dalton Shots
Speaker 1: last year and kind of you know, in the same
Speaker 1: breadth of speaking of Dalton Shows thirteen million, I just
Speaker 1: I don't see. And there's obvious value with Dalton Shots
Speaker 1: especially you talk about the chemistry with Dak Prescott and
Speaker 1: him being Dak Prescott's security blanket, but the leverage leans
Speaker 1: towards the organization when you look at who's waiting in
Speaker 1: the wings at tight end, you know, Jake Ferguson and
Speaker 1: Peyton Hinder shop right there with him. And then you mean,
Speaker 1: you have enough draft picks, nine ten draft picks, you
Speaker 1: can go and get another tight end to develop along
Speaker 1: with Sean McKellen, who you also like. So I mean
Speaker 1: you're you're set for the most part at tight end
Speaker 1: to the point where you can look at dult and Shows,
Speaker 1: make him a respectable offer, and then if he feels
Speaker 1: like he can make more elsewhere, and he likely will
Speaker 1: be able to make more elsewhere, then you know you
Speaker 1: move on from that. But Tony Pollard, it's hands down,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm one hundred percent, I'm not even ninety
Speaker 1: eight point six. I'm right there. That's cool head to
Speaker 1: do it. What do you think? I agree tps your
Speaker 1: most explosible player on offense. So if in time is
Speaker 1: your most valuable asset, everybody's most valuable asset. So if
Speaker 1: time's your most valuable asset, this buys you time or
Speaker 1: it secures him at least, you know, I'm saying it
Speaker 1: makes it very difficult for him to leave. And um,
Speaker 1: he's your most explosive player on offense. So that's a
Speaker 1: double victory for Dallas um and they're in a position
Speaker 1: of power to in order to make that happen only
Speaker 1: way in which that wouldn't happen as if he just
Speaker 1: decided to sit out, which is probably not his CBA.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, yeah, So I mean it works time and opportunity.
Speaker 1: Right now, he's valued around at least on the open market,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of looking at a couple different websites
Speaker 1: to make this. I would say on average his values
Speaker 1: setting like eight and a half million there, just because
Speaker 1: he's coming off of a thousand yard rushing season and
Speaker 1: he did so in sixteen games, so it's not that
Speaker 1: extra game and oh the flub of the statistics, he
Speaker 1: did so in sixteen games. Some of those he wasn't
Speaker 1: fully healthy yet. And then of course you saw the
Speaker 1: impact that he had when he went down in the
Speaker 1: playoff game against San Francisco. But not only did he
Speaker 1: have a thousand yards rushing, he had nearly four hundred
Speaker 1: yards receiving, He had forty receptions, he had three touchdowns
Speaker 1: through the air. His ability to stretch out the passing game,
Speaker 1: his ability to be a straight up, head up rusher
Speaker 1: that we didn't know could be a number one but
Speaker 1: now he is. I think, yes, you tag him. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing, though, I still want a longer term deal done.
Speaker 1: When we're talking long term deals of running backs, we're
Speaker 1: not talking quarterback contracts within seven, eight, nine years down
Speaker 1: the road. You're talking three or four years for the
Speaker 1: most part. If you could tell me Tony Pollard's coming
Speaker 1: in for seven point five over the next three or
Speaker 1: four years, to give it to me, because that's what
Speaker 1: a running back, like you said, Time is of the essence,
Speaker 1: especially at the running back position, because you know how
Speaker 1: short the shelf life is for these high end running
Speaker 1: backs to stay explosive and to remain game changers. I
Speaker 1: think if you can get him on a longer term deal,
Speaker 1: three or four years, you have him right around that
Speaker 1: seven eight million dollar mark. You're winning on both sides
Speaker 1: of the coin. Because Tony Pollard fits in a place
Speaker 1: where he is welcome, where he fits in, he can
Speaker 1: be the featured guy. I don't know if he can
Speaker 1: necessarily do that anywhere in the NFL. He can certainly
Speaker 1: go places, but I don't know if he fits anywhere
Speaker 1: as good as he fits in Dallas. I think his
Speaker 1: party would like something like that as well. I agree,
Speaker 1: particularly on the last portion of that come in, and
Speaker 1: it's something that I kind of pointed to over the
Speaker 1: course of last season as we kind of foreshadowed the
Speaker 1: coming free agency talks from Tony Pollard in that I
Speaker 1: don't doubt that Tony Pollard can be the feature back
Speaker 1: on other teams. But when you look at how teams
Speaker 1: are starting the scheme at the running back position, they're
Speaker 1: more so looking for that one to punch now. So
Speaker 1: if he leaves Dallas, who's to say that his next
Speaker 1: team he won't end up as a tandem guy there
Speaker 1: as well. But now you're you're a tandem guy there
Speaker 1: who has to re establish yourself as you have already
Speaker 1: established yourself in Dallas, because now you're in Dallas, and
Speaker 1: Dallas now understands what you can do. So they're not
Speaker 1: going to put the leash back on you, so to speak,
Speaker 1: going forward, They're going to continue to let you cook.
Speaker 1: You go into a new situation who might already have
Speaker 1: at least one guy and they're looking at tandem and
Speaker 1: you with that guy. But that guy already has the
Speaker 1: rapport with the existing coaching regime, and you kind of
Speaker 1: have to feel yourself out. So maybe it's a couple
Speaker 1: of years of feeling that out. Maybe things grass isn't
Speaker 1: always greener on the other side of the fence, basically
Speaker 1: is what I'm getting to. And many a player in
Speaker 1: the NFL have learned has learned that, and I'm a
Speaker 1: huge player advocate as far as go and get your bag,
Speaker 1: young young men, go and get your bag, because this
Speaker 1: is generational wealth. You don't have many shots at this.
Speaker 1: And this is his first goal at free agency. If
Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't franchise tag him, which I really believe
Speaker 1: they will ensued, but hypothetically speaking, if they don't and
Speaker 1: these other teams are really throwing, you know, several million
Speaker 1: dollars more on the table, your heart pressed to walk
Speaker 1: away from that. So by all means, take care of
Speaker 1: your family. But from a scheme standpoint, I don't know
Speaker 1: that it gets much better than where you are at now,
Speaker 1: especially when you look at Ezekiel Elliott. He will soon
Speaker 1: turn thirty, so assume that he's still here. He'll soon
Speaker 1: turn thirty. You will then be the feature back while
Speaker 1: still having several years left when your contract, depending on
Speaker 1: how long the long term deal will be. So I
Speaker 1: think this is just it's a perfect situation for him
Speaker 1: to remain. And I'm not speaking subjectively. I think if
Speaker 1: you look at the landscape, you can be a feature
Speaker 1: guy and the most electric guy here in this offense,
Speaker 1: or you can go and try to prove that you're
Speaker 1: that somewhere else and where else in the NFL. His
Speaker 1: value is going to be high, yeah, because he's got
Speaker 1: low tread on the tires. Talk about somebody who's only
Speaker 1: played really one full year as a featured back in
Speaker 1: the NFL, but he has four years of being in
Speaker 1: an NFL offense and playing an impact and having significant snaps.
Speaker 1: I mean he played thirty percent of the snaps in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty thirty again in twenty twenty one eighteen in
Speaker 1: his rookie year and that had exploded to forty eight.
Speaker 1: So he was just underneath the half amount of the
Speaker 1: snaps for this Cowboys offense last year. So where else
Speaker 1: in the NFL are you going to find four years
Speaker 1: of experience and yet somebody who has had relatively low
Speaker 1: injury history. Of course we know what just happened in
Speaker 1: the playoff game, but relatively low injury history and something
Speaker 1: that you can maybe rely on for the next three
Speaker 1: or four years. A team will come after him and
Speaker 1: he's no off the field issues, no great ful. If
Speaker 1: Dallas wants to have a conversation, they're probably gonna have
Speaker 1: to tag him. And it feels like that might eliminate leverage, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: but it shouldn't because Tony Pollard still wants to be
Speaker 1: here long term. He wants to sign a contract long
Speaker 1: term because thirteen million or excuse me, ten million, ten
Speaker 1: point nine sounds right, sounds nice, but what about seven
Speaker 1: and a half of the next three or four years.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see how Dallas comes at
Speaker 1: this just from the standpoint of their salary cap. But
Speaker 1: I don't think that they. I do believe that they
Speaker 1: hold him in high regard, and I think that he
Speaker 1: understands that. But ultimately you can feel however you feel
Speaker 1: about me. Whatever you write on that piece of paper
Speaker 1: is what's going to really show me how much you
Speaker 1: care about me. And as a player, yeah, and as
Speaker 1: a player, I know, especially the Cowboys nation, right, the
Speaker 1: fan base is strong, right, the strongest in the league. Yep.
Speaker 1: People are going to feel some type of way if
Speaker 1: he holds his ground and values himself and wants to
Speaker 1: get his bag. But the reality is people that you
Speaker 1: have a small opportunity as a player to have the
Speaker 1: upper hand, and you work here entire life to take
Speaker 1: care of yourself. You don't work your entire life to
Speaker 1: take care of an organization. So I respect whatever direction
Speaker 1: this goes going forward, and he deserves all the offers
Speaker 1: that are going to come at him. Obviously, everybody here
Speaker 1: hopes that he comes back to Dallas, But if it
Speaker 1: doesn't pan out that way, I'm still going to hold
Speaker 1: him in the highest of regards because this is the
Speaker 1: only opportunity that you have to secure this deal. There
Speaker 1: will be no other time in your life unless your
Speaker 1: name is the rock to get bags like this going forward. Right,
Speaker 1: So people people just have some empathy, right, have some
Speaker 1: empathy as this process continues to depend itself out because
Speaker 1: this is the greatest opportunity of this young man has
Speaker 1: had in his entire life. He would love to do
Speaker 1: it in Dallas, but Dallas better bring the right numbers.
Speaker 1: This is where business takes the forefront. Yep. It is
Speaker 1: a business. So you know, you love these players, but
Speaker 1: like Asaiah said, like I said a moment ago, you
Speaker 1: have to understand the business aspect. And it's no different
Speaker 1: from when organizations sign a guy to a four year
Speaker 1: deal and release him two years in. Right. The business
Speaker 1: is the business, So flipping that coin around when it
Speaker 1: comes time to pay the piper, and it always does,
Speaker 1: you know, make sure the offer is respectable and then
Speaker 1: you negotiate from there. So I mean, and you have
Speaker 1: to know that Tony Pollard is held in very high regard,
Speaker 1: not only because he's the consummate professional off the field
Speaker 1: and he's the most explosive player on the field right now,
Speaker 1: but he's a guy that Cowboys drafted enveloped. He's a
Speaker 1: homegrown guy. So that gives him at least some type
Speaker 1: of emotional leverage. I should say in the eyes of
Speaker 1: the cowboys, because the cowboys, as well as they draft,
Speaker 1: they really hate to see their homegrown guys leave. So
Speaker 1: you might have to up the price a little bit
Speaker 1: to make sure that doesn't happen in this case. But
Speaker 1: I think the nearly failsafe way to prevent it is
Speaker 1: you tag him, and now you have until July fourteenth
Speaker 1: to kind of sort things out. Do not let Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard hit the open market and start taking off for
Speaker 1: March thirteenth when legal tampering hits. Just don't do it, man,
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's going to be too most
Speaker 1: advantageous for Dallas to take advantage of this asap. Make
Speaker 1: this happen asap, because more than ever, players are aware
Speaker 1: of their value. Oh yeah, yep, more than ever. Also,
Speaker 1: more than ever, players are aware of their value and
Speaker 1: how much regarded they are to organizations, and how replaceable
Speaker 1: they are and interchangeable. So, with all that being on
Speaker 1: the table, if the number is not where you envisioned
Speaker 1: it to be, and you know you have another number
Speaker 1: on the table most of the time, well how many
Speaker 1: more years I got left in my career for four
Speaker 1: or five years? Okay, so the next four or five years,
Speaker 1: I can get as much money as I can, or
Speaker 1: I can take less money and always be welcome back
Speaker 1: into building. Like that's not where the value is anymore,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So the game has changed,
Speaker 1: the game the values to be old. You know, you
Speaker 1: got the star and all that stuff is real. It's
Speaker 1: you got to start your helmet, be respected forever, everybody,
Speaker 1: the brand, all this stuff, the endorsements cool. Most people
Speaker 1: are gonna say, oh man, he could take less than
Speaker 1: salary because you know it, Dallas, you can get more endorsements. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a separate entity, right, Okay, don't don't don't count.
Speaker 1: Don't count my money. Yeah, don't count my money outside
Speaker 1: of football. So we try to say that. So I
Speaker 1: just want people to understand it's gonna come down to
Speaker 1: the bread. That's going to come down to the bread.
Speaker 1: And if Dallas is not within one one and a
Speaker 1: half million dollars per year of what other teams are offering,
Speaker 1: there's a probably a good chance that outside the tag,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get that guy back. And keeping mind,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, this sport can end for any one
Speaker 1: of these players in this league at any moment. That
Speaker 1: is not hyperbole. This is a year, another record year
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Speaker 1: know what snap is your last snap. You could have
Speaker 1: another ten years in the league, or you could have
Speaker 1: another ten minutes in the league. There's no guarantee that
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard will see another free agency opportunity to get
Speaker 1: a pay day like this one, so he has to
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Speaker 1: his agents will as well. So that when you're the Cowboys,
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Speaker 1: stand Backpatrick and Hoc walk around. Kyle Yeoman's all right, guys,
Speaker 1: we uh we mentioned it a little bit earlier. This
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Speaker 1: I need Black Rifle to send me a case because
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Speaker 1: to drinks. Yeah, they got me. I'm not a coffee
Speaker 1: guy at all. No, you're not at like at all.
Speaker 1: I respect. I'm glad there are are smiles. I'm not
Speaker 1: a coffee guy. But once you brought into RTD and
Speaker 1: I drink that. Now there's a store next door to
Speaker 1: me that sells their drinks and I go there and
Speaker 1: I buy it every day. Oh, the dealer is n
Speaker 1: exactly easy access. By the way, I was watching, So,
Speaker 1: I mean, anybody, anybody that knows me, is that. Of course,
Speaker 1: I love the Cowboys, but outside of football, my number
Speaker 1: one fandom is racing. I love racing. I thought about
Speaker 1: one that was crazy Daytona five hundred Nascar. I grew
Speaker 1: up watching NASCAR. So I was sitting there and I
Speaker 1: had a basketball game on Sunday. But after the basketball game,
Speaker 1: was over. I turned on the Daytona five hundred, the
Speaker 1: Great American Race, Number one race in NASCAR. Do not
Speaker 1: tell me the results. I had. It's dr pretty watched
Speaker 1: the last half hour. No, I'm just gonna watch the
Speaker 1: whole thing. There you go. Uh, I was watching and
Speaker 1: there's a black rifle coffee company car. No Travis Pastrana, who,
Speaker 1: of course you might recognize the name. He was an
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Speaker 1: and qualified. He was good enough to get in and
Speaker 1: he finished in eleventh, like he actually was almost top ten.
Speaker 1: He was in the top ten right at the end,
Speaker 1: and then a big crash happened and everything. Black guy
Speaker 1: his black rifle before he got behind that. Yeah he did.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was pretty cool, really good looking car.
Speaker 1: It was gray with like a black accent, had red
Speaker 1: numbers with the black outline. It's a good looking car.
Speaker 1: I just thought i'd throw that out there, but I
Speaker 1: see you. I thought of you guys whenever I saw
Speaker 1: it on. Well, after Isaiah drinks his RTD, that's him
Speaker 1: driving in to work and his four D F one
Speaker 1: fifty all right electric. Like I said a minute ago,
Speaker 1: Cowboys could expect their coaching staff to be finalized over
Speaker 1: the next couple of hours or so, you think hours
Speaker 1: it'll be by this affter noo. Yeah, yeah, that's the word.
Speaker 1: Anything that we can maybe expect in that regard. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm more interested. I don't know as far as expectations goes,
Speaker 1: because there's been a couple of curveballs here, like you
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, for you know, Floyd for example,
Speaker 1: that's interesting one. But I'm interested to see who the
Speaker 1: running backs coach is going to be um and and
Speaker 1: for me it's because I I think Skip Pete did
Speaker 1: a phenomenal job and you know, outside of him also
Speaker 1: being a phenomenal human being and a leader of men.
Speaker 1: But you look at the production from Ezekiel Elliott and
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard with Skip Pete at the helm, that's that's
Speaker 1: a hard act to follow. So I'm really interested to
Speaker 1: see who they pencil in for that role, and then
Speaker 1: how they organize the linebackers coach, you know, with a
Speaker 1: senior defensive assistant George Edwards no longer being here. And
Speaker 1: I'm just interested to see where the chips may fall
Speaker 1: more or less. But I'm kind of circled on the
Speaker 1: running backs coach. We're sitting here talking about Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: and how you used to franchise take him. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: the production also only goes as far as the coaching
Speaker 1: will allow as well. So these guys have talent, they
Speaker 1: know their veterans, they know how to get it done.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, scheme matters. So
Speaker 1: let's see you who the RBS coaches And that's kind
Speaker 1: of where I'm looking. So what is There's been a
Speaker 1: lot of turnover in terms of the support staff this
Speaker 1: year as opposed to the year's past. And yes, you
Speaker 1: did change offensive coordinators. That is probably the number one
Speaker 1: thing that the first domino that needs to fall. But Isaiah,
Speaker 1: when you look at the changes that happened, what kind
Speaker 1: of message does that send? Or does it send a message?
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to, But what is that sin to?
Speaker 1: Is it the coaching staff, is it to the players
Speaker 1: in the building? Who is receiving the message? And what
Speaker 1: kind of message could that sin? I think everybody is
Speaker 1: picking it apart. Everybody's watching and waiting on the next move.
Speaker 1: We don't sitting here right for the most war, we
Speaker 1: don't know all that went into those decisions. Some of
Speaker 1: it might be finances, some of it might be, you know,
Speaker 1: lack of beyond the same page. It might be whatever.
Speaker 1: There's a whole lot of reasons why you go different directions. Right,
Speaker 1: we're not in those rooms, they're not. We have opinions
Speaker 1: just like everybody else has opinions, and we speculated just
Speaker 1: like everybody else. Okay, with education on us. I was
Speaker 1: about to say, we've got we have we have a
Speaker 1: little bit more instances, yes, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, we're still speculating and assuming right right not
Speaker 1: to fly on the wall exactly, which flies don't even
Speaker 1: have either, they can't hear. But it's interesting things. Dude,
Speaker 1: you're the insect fat guy. He just pulled one out,
Speaker 1: he did about that? You feel slighted? No, because I
Speaker 1: love it when others also the science. I don't want
Speaker 1: to hoard the science. I love when others also know
Speaker 1: thee No, I'm not. That's hard. Stop. That's where you
Speaker 1: went wrong, right. You had to veer off to the left,
Speaker 1: continue back on the bath, damn it. Knowing knowing that
Speaker 1: this that we're just giving our opinions, educated opinions. I
Speaker 1: don't know it's going to receive differently from everybody, but
Speaker 1: I do know, like the action god, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: But I do know that everybody that is that is
Speaker 1: still on contract is sitting around and waiting on that move.
Speaker 1: What are they going to do? What direction are you
Speaker 1: going to go? It's gonna be people that are connected
Speaker 1: to you and from your past. It's gonna be somebody
Speaker 1: else's bringing in some different insights. It's gonna really move
Speaker 1: forward for gear forward until you know like who you're
Speaker 1: working with, what, what are they bringing into the table?
Speaker 1: How do you have to Are they gonna be players? Coaches?
Speaker 1: Are they gonna be hard to you know, old school
Speaker 1: cats like old line in some old school right, So
Speaker 1: you kind of see the direction that's going. That's a
Speaker 1: good point, that's you know, so so you can get
Speaker 1: some personality, some characteristic traits based upon what they've done
Speaker 1: in the past, where they've been, the success they've had.
Speaker 1: So you're sitting around in your waiting what type of
Speaker 1: vibe are we going to be having in his locker room?
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is the message hasn't been sent yet,
Speaker 1: but it's going to be old line knows. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the only thing. I'll just play devil's advocate here.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, by the way, But if you
Speaker 1: wanted to say they're going quote unquote old school, I
Speaker 1: mean George Edwards and Skip Pete weren't new era head
Speaker 1: coach coaches. That's what I'm saying. So do you think
Speaker 1: we know those guys? We know those guys personally. We
Speaker 1: know what the type of individuals they were. Unfortunately no
Speaker 1: longer here. What reasoning, we don't know, but we do know,
Speaker 1: as everybody else. We're sitting back and we're watching what
Speaker 1: type of individuals, What type of individual are they going
Speaker 1: to bring in to replace those individus? Because we know
Speaker 1: who those individuals were. Who were they? That's what I'm
Speaker 1: asking for, Hardtels. I mean, they kept the one hundred
Speaker 1: with you, They kept the one hundred with you all
Speaker 1: the time. I can speak more soda to Skip Pete
Speaker 1: than I can't for anybody else. But I know George
Speaker 1: Edwards was a real one too. Yeah right, but yeah, Davis,
Speaker 1: he was a real one. He kept on one hundred
Speaker 1: with you. When I say when I say a real one.
Speaker 1: I mean somebody who's not gonna say something just cuss right.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna go with the flow just because now
Speaker 1: I'm not insinuating that that's what was taking place. I'm
Speaker 1: just speaking to their character as individuals based by my
Speaker 1: relationships that I have leaving. These are people that I say, hey,
Speaker 1: you stay, bro, you stink, you need to go change yourself.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna they're not gonna say they're you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying like they is that you like, he
Speaker 1: gonna he gonna ask you straight up. And that's the
Speaker 1: type of individual you got. If you go out there
Speaker 1: as a running back and you had a soft block,
Speaker 1: he gonna call you out on it. Hey, bro, what
Speaker 1: the heck was that was that? Yeah? Hey, like, you
Speaker 1: gotta fix let'nta figure that out? Otherwise you ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be in there. He's gonna tell you straight up. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna try to make it sound good and patch
Speaker 1: you on the bag and rep your like, No, this
Speaker 1: is what it is. It's black and white. Can you
Speaker 1: get the job done or can you not? If you can't,
Speaker 1: I'll get somebody else to do it. Those were the
Speaker 1: type of individuals that were let go. Now what type
Speaker 1: individuals are going to come into locker room? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I mean along with Arby's coach, and we would singing
Speaker 1: skips praises, and you know, you have to be optimistic
Speaker 1: and hope that the Cowboys can replace him with someone
Speaker 1: who's equal or greater. Like I said, hard act to follow.
Speaker 1: But also quarterbacks coach. We we hopped on that over
Speaker 1: the course of the back end of the season and
Speaker 1: then after the elimination from the playoffs, and you know,
Speaker 1: we playfully half jest, I would say, half jest. We
Speaker 1: mentioned John Kitten because we would love nothing more than
Speaker 1: to see John Kitten in return. Don't think it will happen.
Speaker 1: But quarterbacks coach, I mean, you know, the issue with
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's interceptions weren't present under John kittena but they
Speaker 1: emerged under the what became the final year of Doug
Speaker 1: nuss Meyer. And how you need quarterbacks coach who can
Speaker 1: get in here and figure out what happened there with
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and and fix it. And so along with
Speaker 1: running backs coach, I'm interested to see who gets the
Speaker 1: nat A quarterbacks coach as well. Those two things and
Speaker 1: speaking more openly, I'll say quarterbacks coach even more so
Speaker 1: than running backs coach. Now did I really start to
Speaker 1: think about but those two positions, I mean, you need
Speaker 1: to make sure those are filled with high quality guys
Speaker 1: who can come in, and I wouldn't you got some
Speaker 1: experimentation going on. Some of these coaching hires will be
Speaker 1: made official, but you know, multiple reports put let's say
Speaker 1: Darry and Thompson for example, you look at what Darry
Speaker 1: and Thompson might likely come in to coach. That's not
Speaker 1: the position he played. Yeah, right, So that's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a curveball, and it's an inexperienced person coming
Speaker 1: in coaching a position that he didn't play. So I
Speaker 1: don't know that you take that kind of a risk
Speaker 1: at quarterbacks coach or running backs coach. I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see if they go more experienced at those two in
Speaker 1: those two roles. It's going to be interesting to see
Speaker 1: what direction they go. Because either way, I think all
Speaker 1: of this happens, and the arrows are pointing toward Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy because this is a huge offseason for Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: We said it last year and he delivered. He came
Speaker 1: through they played really well one twelve games went and
Speaker 1: want to play layoff game. They didn't get to where
Speaker 1: they ultimately wanted to go, of course, but they still
Speaker 1: improved upon last year's final result. Can they do that again?
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing for Mike McCarthy. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of freaking change. It's a lot of change. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of changeing to make. This isn't like one or
Speaker 1: two guys. It's eighty eight guys. It's roughly yeah. So
Speaker 1: you you take you say there's I don't know how
Speaker 1: you guys are on the staff. You take eight guys,
Speaker 1: so yeah, no, you're not the right fit. You are
Speaker 1: making a one overhaul. It's a freaking overhaul now. So
Speaker 1: now it's like, okay, if those guys aren't the guys,
Speaker 1: who are who? Now it's not really top about one position, right.
Speaker 1: This wasn't just like okay, hey Philbin you did a
Speaker 1: great job, appreciate it. But we need to we need
Speaker 1: to change the mindset and attitude of the old line. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me understand that cool multiple multiple multiple So now okay,
Speaker 1: since those are not the guys, right, no, let's wait
Speaker 1: and see who you bring it? Who you got, who
Speaker 1: are your guys? What I want and what is different
Speaker 1: about them? Right, if you're listening to this after Tuesday,
Speaker 1: because we're probably gonna figure out over the next twenty
Speaker 1: four hours. If you're listening to this, our luck it
Speaker 1: would be five minutes where we might be Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be long on talking about cowboys. Is gonna text
Speaker 1: us two minutes after Hey, guys, like what just happened?
Speaker 1: So it's going to happen soon. Use this as all right,
Speaker 1: this is what to look for when they hire these guys,
Speaker 1: and then we'll come back and talk about it on
Speaker 1: Tuesday what they end up doing. Because we're gonna see
Speaker 1: a paper trail. We're gonna see exactly what type of
Speaker 1: guys they bring in, just like we saw last year
Speaker 1: with draft picks and free agents. They wanted dogs, they
Speaker 1: wanted these these hard nosed mentality players, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: go out and get somebody just like that. Coaching staff wise,
Speaker 1: which positions this year? Coach? Are you looking towards looking
Speaker 1: forward to most to see to see who comes in
Speaker 1: which position? Group? Do you have two fold? I'm qub's
Speaker 1: coaching and I'm probably quarterbacks quarterback coach. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's running back is there too, But quarterback coaches the
Speaker 1: number one thing. All right. Taking our second break, when
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Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's take a look at the NFC Easts.
Speaker 1: There is going to be changed, much like the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have changed on their side of things. Philadelphia, it's rolling
Speaker 1: through it as well. They're starting to get older in
Speaker 1: a couple of different areas. They're going to replace some guys.
Speaker 1: For the most part, the Philadelphia and Nucleus is back.
Speaker 1: You could say the same for New York, but not
Speaker 1: really because sae Quon Barkley coming up into his contract year.
Speaker 1: You've got Daniel Jones who's coming up into his negotiation.
Speaker 1: It looks like Daniel Jones is gonna get somewhere between
Speaker 1: forty and forty five million a year the market is,
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like, somewhere between forty and forty
Speaker 1: five million. Washington could go out and get a quarterback.
Speaker 1: They have some draft capital. They're in a good quarterback draft.
Speaker 1: Out of the three teams, Isaiah, who do you feel
Speaker 1: like is in the best scenario to make a bigger jump.
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna say who's the best team because
Speaker 1: that's probably gonna be Philly, But who's in the best
Speaker 1: scenario to take the largest jump that the most improvement
Speaker 1: out of the NFC East Giants? Why is that? I
Speaker 1: just think that another full offseason with their head with
Speaker 1: their new head coach, you know, Brian Daball. I think
Speaker 1: he's just a freaking dude. Defensive coordinator there is freaking
Speaker 1: solid as well. And I think they're gonna have opportunity
Speaker 1: to go to free agency and go to the draft
Speaker 1: to get some more guys that fit what they do.
Speaker 1: I just think the Giants organization is a good organization.
Speaker 1: That's just my opinion from how they ran organizationally. Um,
Speaker 1: and now they have somebody that can lead them at
Speaker 1: the coaching position again, so um, somebody. You definitely need
Speaker 1: to watch out for them. They're they're they're growing, they're growing,
Speaker 1: and I think I think Dallas felt that this year
Speaker 1: when they Yeah, I feel that and I said it earlier.
Speaker 1: Giants will take another step. Yeah, um, Cowboys hopefully will
Speaker 1: take another step. I think the Eagles take a step back,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they will be traded backflips if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys took another step, because that means they're going to
Speaker 1: the conference time. But as far as who will take
Speaker 1: the biggest step, it's the commanders for me, and I
Speaker 1: don't know that I have that opinion. If Eric b
Speaker 1: Enemy doesn't join as their offensive coordinate a huge addition.
Speaker 1: So I mean, that's a whale of an addition. And
Speaker 1: he has some wide receiver weapons they're talking about, scary
Speaker 1: terry and that. You know. So if Sam Howell and
Speaker 1: or if they choose to use some of their draft
Speaker 1: capital to go and get a quarterback, if they get
Speaker 1: that quarterback situation sorted out, they already have one of
Speaker 1: the most vicious defensive fronts in the league. So you're
Speaker 1: fine on that side of the ball. Get that quarterback
Speaker 1: sorted out. You now have a multi time Super Bowl
Speaker 1: winning offensive coordinator who, oh, by the way, you know,
Speaker 1: was helping Patrick Mahomes do Patrick Mahomes things. And I'm interested.
Speaker 1: So I think the commanders take of each of any
Speaker 1: of these teams taking a step forward, the commanders will
Speaker 1: take the biggest step forward. In my opinion, I think
Speaker 1: they contend for the nfc e's crown. I think it's
Speaker 1: it's cyclically speaking, because that's how the NFL works. It's
Speaker 1: kind of time for it to be for them to
Speaker 1: be one of the ones pushing for the top seat
Speaker 1: in the NFC's Yeah, it's kind of their time. So
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be because the Hill would him.
Speaker 1: But objectively speaking, I think they take the biggest step Washington.
Speaker 1: They pick sixteen, forty eight, and ninety eight in the
Speaker 1: upcoming NFL Draft. At sixteen, A lot of people, a
Speaker 1: lot of experts out there, are mocking Anthony Richardson for
Speaker 1: Florida quarterback. To them, he's a dual threat attack, strong body,
Speaker 1: strong build, good arm. I think if if he were
Speaker 1: to go to Washington, he'd be a per faked fit,
Speaker 1: perfect fit to Washington at sixteen. Now, they could also
Speaker 1: go offensive line, try and pave the way for the
Speaker 1: running backs. Like you mentioned, there's there's a lot of
Speaker 1: different options there. New York, on the other hand, they'll
Speaker 1: pick a little bit later since they did make a
Speaker 1: bit of a run in the playoffs. They picked twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: and they'll probably go what defense. You would think they
Speaker 1: need a linebacker. Yeah, they do something like that in
Speaker 1: that that middle of that defense. So a couple different
Speaker 1: areas for those two to go. What do you think
Speaker 1: about Eric B. Enemy leaving the Super Bowl champs in
Speaker 1: Kansas City to take the same title with Washington this conversation, Yeah,
Speaker 1: long story shout. I think is ridiculous that he had
Speaker 1: to make that step sideways, potentially backward, in order to
Speaker 1: make a step forward. The league has seen what he
Speaker 1: can do, and I get that. There's an argument saying, well,
Speaker 1: he's not getting all the credit he deserves because he's
Speaker 1: tethered to Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. But those who
Speaker 1: know know ye that Eric B. Enemy has been the
Speaker 1: maestro at perfect example. And I'll talk about you guys,
Speaker 1: perfect example being those two touchdown plays won the sky
Speaker 1: More and the one previously to Kadarius Tony with the
Speaker 1: fake motion. That's Eric B. Enemy. You know where he
Speaker 1: got there from. He went back and saw that it
Speaker 1: worked against the Eagles, I think the jack Boys fifteen Egles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he it was Eric B who went to Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: showed him the film and said I want to put
Speaker 1: this in for the Super Bowl, and Andy Reid was like, absolutely,
Speaker 1: go ahead. Those two touchdowns are because of Eric B. Enemy.
Speaker 1: Do the Chiefs win that game without those two touchdowns? Nope?
Speaker 1: So I think it's just utterly ridiculous. But and now
Speaker 1: it's a situation where I'm going to switch over to
Speaker 1: subjectively speaking. Subjectively speaking, as much as I wish the
Speaker 1: best for Eric B And I mean, now he's on
Speaker 1: the team where it's just like what do I say here?
Speaker 1: Like I hope you do well, but I hope your
Speaker 1: team stinks, Like yeah, right. But from a personal aspect,
Speaker 1: I just I think it sucks that he has to
Speaker 1: move sideways and potentially backward to move forward. It's baffling,
Speaker 1: it really is. It's baffling, Isaiah. Yeah, me off, so
Speaker 1: I don't have to say about it. It's ridiculous. Um,
Speaker 1: He's now being place in a crappy situation. He wins
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl betting on himself to himself against the
Speaker 1: two coordinators, the two coordinators that he defeated in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and he coaching this is hilarious the next
Speaker 1: day not hilarious, but after he defeated it, what are
Speaker 1: we What are we doing? Peter? What are we doing?
Speaker 1: Two super Bowl rings later. But yeah, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: here we go heading into another week, and of course,
Speaker 1: like we said, there's a lot of news that can
Speaker 1: drop in between now and then, we'll probably have coaches
Speaker 1: to talk about next week again, whether or not Tony
Speaker 1: Pat Pollard it tag. It may not happen by the
Speaker 1: time our next show happens, but at least heading into
Speaker 1: next week, we convinced that everybody upstairs just waits for
Speaker 1: us to go off the air, and then they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, talking cowboys, off to go, all right, go,
Speaker 1: uh next week, I'll be at the I'll be at
Speaker 1: the NFL combine. Hey, Patrick will also be hey, are
Speaker 1: you guys gonna run forties? We listen, we're still supposed
Speaker 1: to get that get that puppet from earlier, Remember a
Speaker 1: challenge you didn't forget, I don't forget they do. They
Speaker 1: normally set up a little turf thing at the at
Speaker 1: radio row stretch stretch first that I'm going against. It's
Speaker 1: like on TV and stuff like, he's not worried about me,
Speaker 1: He's worried about pulling ropes and stuff. Don't saying we're
Speaker 1: talking about don't say me versus you, Oh, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: see yeah, you want to come to INDI with us?
Speaker 1: Listen here can tell boys to go ahead. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll be back and I don't know what our plan
Speaker 1: is next week, but we're gonna do a show at
Speaker 1: some point. We'll figure it out, all right, see you
Speaker 1: next week. I'm talking Cowboys for Chris Beam, Isaiah stand
Speaker 1: Back and Patrick Nose Walker round Kyle Yoman saying so long.
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