WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Tag You’re It 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:06.720 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:15.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This he's Talking 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:20.120 Cowboys Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:31.240 the Star in Frisco. And now your hosts, I say 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:42.920 a stand back, Patrick Walker and Kyle Yeoman's It's a 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.760 terrific Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.199 Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco in the 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.520 s WBC studios. We've got a lot to talk about 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:56.920 over this past week in Cowboys Nation. We're gonna do 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.320 so over the next forty five minutes. Alongside I says, 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.840 stand back, I got Chris Beam in the back. I'm 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:07.760 Kyle Yeoman's Patrick. No see Walker makes his triumphant return. 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:10.240 He rested up. You're ready to go for the rest 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.520 of the office. You know what, I feel, fantastic. Um, 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:17.800 you know, Eagles lost, you know, so I just feel 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.640 only it wasn't. It wasn't. Two weeks I'm still reveling. 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:27.119 I'm still basking in the glow of the bitter rival 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:31.680 falling to the Kansas City Chiefs and the fashion in 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.360 which they did. Because I was told, you know, over 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.880 the course of this past season. In season's past, I 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.440 was told by a certain fan base not to blame 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:45.120 the refs because that's making excuses um. And yet fast 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:49.400 forward to Super Bowl fifty seven and you know the 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.000 outcome of that and what happened. And you know what's 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.960 funny to me, though, fellas is I mean credit to 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:58.480 James Bradberry. That guy stood up and basically said, he 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.200 admitted he was like I held him and you know, 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.080 I was hoping I'd get away with it and I didn't. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:07.880 And even with that admission being publican out there, you know, 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:15.040 the complainers, Oh, shut up in take your lu Now, 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.000 what are you to say? Nothing? I just want to 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:19.880 get him going a little bit. Isaiah. I'm going to 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:23.840 part Yeah. Hi, what do you say to those that 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.000 are saying that that Cowboys? I mean, the Eagles just 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.400 live rent free of the Cowboys head. They're celebrating this loss, 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.120 they're doing all that. What say you to those people 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.839 that's a turn about? Is fair play? That's what I said. 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:39.040 I said, hashtag keep that energy, Okay, I say this 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:40.920 is also the Super Bowl and there was literally no 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.680 other football contest going on that weekend or that day 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.959 So it's not as if fans of other teams, be 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.320 at the Cowboys, the Giants, or any other of the 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:54.720 other thirty teams were doing anything other than tuned into 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:58.320 this particular game. So voice, this isn't rent free. Everybody 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.040 was watching because it's the Super Bowl, and you wanted 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.520 everybody to watch if you're an Eagles fan, because you 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.600 thought you be able to rub it all in everybody's face, 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.680 particularly Cowboys fans. And see ah ha haha for literally, 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.720 guess what for nothing? For nothing, at the end of 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:18.640 the day, you're sitting with the same amount of hardware 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.799 from the twenty twenty two season that the Dallas Cowboys are, 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:23.600 that the Giants are, that the Commanders are, that the 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.560 other teams are. So kudos also to the Kansas City Chiefs, 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.160 because while I'm sitting here having my fund railing against 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.520 those bums in Philly, and I did say they'd be 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:36.200 exposed when they played a good, really good quarterback. I did. Yeah, 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:41.120 there we go. Roses to Eric bi Enemy and Andy 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.640 Reid and Patrick Mahomes and just how that team was 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.200 coached in the Super Bowl. The biggest thing for me 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.839 is it's two plays that were my biggest takeaways one 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.120 when Bradberry got away with the obvious holding on Juju 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.440 in the first half to come back and go with 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.320 that same play in the fourth quarter, hoping that the 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:03.000 ref would see it. Patrick targeted him, pointed it out. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:07.600 That was just football, Like you the slide at the 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.440 two yard line to make sure you don't score early. 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.720 That's coaching. That's just fantastic coaching. So little things like 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.120 that is what separates the Kansas City Chiefs from even 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:19.000 the Dallas Cowboys. SOS for those that are saying, well, 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:20.800 what's the difference between the Chiefs and the Eagles and 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:22.839 the Cowboys? How far the Cowboys have to go to 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.480 get to that level? Not far at all. They're closed. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.599 They just need consistency and execution, tracking up some things 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.240 as far as how they run both sides of the ball, 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.159 and they'll get there. But that's for twenty twenty three. 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:39.680 For now, I feel magnificent, fantastic, and glorious because the 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:44.680 Philadelphia Eagles went fourteen and three for nothing. Buffet's chest 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.240 out a little bit. I love it. Isaiah. How are 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:48.920 you to that? I'm good man. How y'all doing? Are 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.400 you that good? I'm fine? I mean it honestly didn't 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.440 matter if it's not Dallas for Seattle, I don't freaking 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.760 care Seattle's hometown Dallas and squad obviously I take a chance. 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.440 I'll go to give you the crap though. I mean 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.360 they had a chance. That's all. I mean, all three 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.039 of us would be close. All you asked for every 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.160 year is that you have a chance to win a ring. Yeah, 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:09.920 that's and they had the best chance out of any 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.760 other team inside from Kansas City in this league to 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.240 win a ring. Yes, and that's what that's what you 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.400 put your yourself in a position for it. So, I mean, 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:17.360 it is what it is. They didn't they didn't get 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.280 the dub so but but you would like to be 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.240 in the position that they were in. Oh you will. Look, 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:22.760 you know what I'm saying, that's that's that's your goal. 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.479 So I mean, obviously Dallas's go every year, that's every 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.400 organization's goal. Um to get there is something as something 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:29.680 else to put put it on the put it on 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.479 the wall, on the board and say that's a goal. 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.200 And then they execute. You know what they did in 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.720 terms of the front office and all those things that 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.840 that helped them get to that point. It didn't pay 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.240 off in the end, but it helped them get to 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.080 that point. They had a chance it did, right, So 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:44.920 that's and that's all you ask for. Right. What I 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:46.920 would say is the same thing I was saying prior 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.520 to the Super Bowl, you know, November December, when you 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.560 saw the run that the Eagles were going on, set 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:53.840 it on this program, set it offline to you guys 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:57.680 in other colleagues, that being that this is a league 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:01.800 that's so dominated by parody. You felt like, because that 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.000 was one of the more special seasons in the history 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.359 of that franchise, that they really needed to capitalize on 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:12.400 that with a Super Bowl win. Not doing so and 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.840 then immediately not only do you lose the Super Bowl, 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:16.279 you lose it in the fashion in which you did so. 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.760 Now super Bowl hangover comes into play. See if that's 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:19.960 the thing. But we'll see if it's the thing for 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:22.240 the Eagles. But it's been a thing for several teams, 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:23.640 and we can go down the list, but we won't. 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.640 Those teams don't make the playoffs the years after. The 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.000 Bengals did this year, and of course they won a 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.320 game in the playoffs against the Bills, but that was 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.680 out of the ordinary and recent member. It was an aberration. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.120 And then on the heels of that, you lose both 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.560 your OC and your DC. I know Eagles fans are like, oh, 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.800 we're glad Gannon is going. Yeah, you wouldn't. You weren't 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.440 saying that before the Super Bowl, so cut it. So 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.520 you lose your OC, lose your DC. So you got 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.760 some continuity issues there on the heels of what might 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.479 be a Super Bowl hangover. So for clarity for those 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.159 that were saying I was by pointing out parody exists 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:56.960 and it might happen to the Eagles. I wasn't saying 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:58.680 they will go to a four win team. That's not 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.320 gonna happen. They're going to be in content for the 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.200 NFC East again. I'm saying they're not going and I'll 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:04.880 say it right now with my chest on the Tuesday. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.000 They're not going fourteen and three again next year. They're 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.280 not going fifteen and two, sixteen and one. I see 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.680 them now having to kind of reset at OC a 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.320 little bit, reset at DC. The amount of free agents 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.720 they have. They have enough draft picks to reload. But 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:19.440 I see them as, let's say, a ten win team. 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.640 So if you're ten and seven. I don't know that 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.120 ten and seven wins the East next year, which is 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.680 a fund because now you got Eric b in Washington 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:33.600 and a quarterback. Oh yeah, yeah, we're gonna talk about that. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.000 That's actually my third day. Yeah. I see the Eagles 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.200 still being a ten win team, but I don't know 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:41.200 that ten wins gets you then. Regular season don't do 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.240 a dog on thing for me. It's all about the playoffs. 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.040 It's all about them play but you don't get without 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.880 the regular season. You don't get there without performing in 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:54.000 the regular season. We slid in the playoffs, but you 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:55.600 still got in. But you got it. That's what I'm saying. 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.280 It doesn't matter how you get in. It doesn't matter 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:58.520 how you get it. That's what I'm saying. The regular 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:02.480 season doesn't matter. Nine and also at the couples went 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.120 twelve and five and right. So again, I don't know 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.080 that ten wins gets it done in this NFC East 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:10.960 for twenty twenty three. It's going to be a fun 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.920 uh next year because I think parody kind of puts 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.920 a dent in the Eagles armor. Cowboys presumably take a 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.440 step forward. I hate to say it, but you know, 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.920 we see the Giants taking that step forward. I think 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.040 they take another step forward. I think contention the top 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:29.040 the NFC East is gonna be white hot between the Eagles, 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.199 the Cowboys, the Giants with the Cosmanders like right there 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.480 if they can get that ques. This was the year 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:35.679 that almost all four teams win in Yes, yeah, I 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.600 want to stop talking about this right now because I 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.000 want to talk about it later. All right, sound good. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:40.680 I want to talk about it later just because I 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.120 want to do the state of the NFC East going 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.720 into the off season in our third segments. So let's 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:50.920 let's talk about it there. Let's talk cowboys. Hello, let's 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:55.319 talk cowboys, talking cowboys. This is talking cowboys. Today opens 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.200 up a two week window for teams to use the 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:02.360 franchise tag or the transition tag you're on free agents 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.920 within the organization. Cowboys have used it five straight years. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.720 They used it on d Law d Law, Dak Dak 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:17.000 and Dalton Shoal. You almost pull the dig DeMarcus, DeMarcus, Dak, 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:24.360 Dak and Dalton Yeah, straight five straight a TPS. That's 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.920 gonna be then, or could be Donovan Wilson, or could 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.920 be Dalton Scholtz again. Or could be Laton vander esh. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.200 I wanted to outline the possibilities here for the Cowboys. Okay, 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:40.120 Tony Pollard is the most likely ninety eight percent possible. Yeah, 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:45.480 maybe even ninety eight point six temperature type possibility. It's 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.760 gonna be Tony Pollard that would get the franchise tag 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.960 ten point one million. That's a number that's actually not 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.280 too far off of his market value. It would benefit 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.280 both parties to get a long term deal done so 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.240 you can tag him. He doesn't have to sign the tag. 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.200 He can wait a little bit longer and then sign 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.760 that later. Dalton Schultz it would be thirteen point one 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:06.960 a couple million more than when he got paid this 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:08.960 past year, which, of course that felt like it was 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.440 maybe a little overpay in that regard. Layton vander esh 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.320 is another option as an unretricted free agent. LVEE would 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:19.800 be owed twenty point nine nearly twenty one million. That's 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.040 probably not going to happen. I would you remember that 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.480 horse from Rent and Stimpy? Yeah, no, sir, I don't 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.520 like it. I don't like it. Donovan Wilson would be 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.400 fourteen and a half million. I don't think that's happening either. So, 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.240 out of the four options, the most likely of the 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:37.600 two is probably Dalton Schultz, but by far, far, and away, 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.240 the number one option to be tagged is Tony Pollard. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.920 So I ask you, gentlemen, the question would you do 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:47.120 with Patrick? I absolutely would. I would for Tony Pollard. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.959 You see the breakout year that he had once fully unleashed. 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.840 You don't know quite yet how the conversation is going 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.040 to go with Ezekie Elliott. You would like to believe 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.560 that that will end admicably. As far as maybe Ezeq 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.719 Eliot will hopefully take a Payriod duction in order to 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.160 keep Tony Pollard, I think that he would be I've 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:04.920 you know, I've said this several times and I'm still 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:08.319 on that hill. But Tony Pollard, I mean, after seeing 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.079 what he did last year, you don't want him to 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.040 hit the open market. He hits the open market and 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:15.600 those bags get really difficult to contend with from other 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.160 teams as far as offers are concerned. So go ahead 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.920 and like Isaiah said, tag you're a freeze, tag right, 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.120 tag don't move? Got you right? And then that'll buy 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:29.040 you until July fourteenth to negotiate a long term deal 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.360 potentially something they weren't able to do with Dalton Shots 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.000 last year and kind of you know, in the same 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.320 breadth of speaking of Dalton Shows thirteen million, I just 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.360 I don't see. And there's obvious value with Dalton Shots 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.960 especially you talk about the chemistry with Dak Prescott and 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:47.600 him being Dak Prescott's security blanket, but the leverage leans 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.200 towards the organization when you look at who's waiting in 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.760 the wings at tight end, you know, Jake Ferguson and 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.679 Peyton Hinder shop right there with him. And then you mean, 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:57.840 you have enough draft picks, nine ten draft picks, you 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.839 can go and get another tight end to develop along 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.480 with Sean McKellen, who you also like. So I mean 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.760 you're you're set for the most part at tight end 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.480 to the point where you can look at dult and Shows, 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.240 make him a respectable offer, and then if he feels 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.760 like he can make more elsewhere, and he likely will 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.240 be able to make more elsewhere, then you know you 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.320 move on from that. But Tony Pollard, it's hands down, 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.240 I mean, I'm one hundred percent, I'm not even ninety 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.480 eight point six. I'm right there. That's cool head to 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.960 do it. What do you think? I agree tps your 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:29.439 most explosible player on offense. So if in time is 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.920 your most valuable asset, everybody's most valuable asset. So if 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.600 time's your most valuable asset, this buys you time or 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:37.679 it secures him at least, you know, I'm saying it 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.360 makes it very difficult for him to leave. And um, 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.680 he's your most explosive player on offense. So that's a 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.520 double victory for Dallas um and they're in a position 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.080 of power to in order to make that happen only 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:49.640 way in which that wouldn't happen as if he just 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:53.160 decided to sit out, which is probably not his CBA. 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:58.000 That's yeah, yeah, So I mean it works time and opportunity. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:02.280 Right now, he's valued around at least on the open market, 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.240 and I'm kind of looking at a couple different websites 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.199 to make this. I would say on average his values 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.560 setting like eight and a half million there, just because 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.080 he's coming off of a thousand yard rushing season and 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.200 he did so in sixteen games, so it's not that 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.520 extra game and oh the flub of the statistics, he 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.080 did so in sixteen games. Some of those he wasn't 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.320 fully healthy yet. And then of course you saw the 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.000 impact that he had when he went down in the 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.240 playoff game against San Francisco. But not only did he 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:31.160 have a thousand yards rushing, he had nearly four hundred 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.480 yards receiving, He had forty receptions, he had three touchdowns 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.400 through the air. His ability to stretch out the passing game, 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.800 his ability to be a straight up, head up rusher 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.360 that we didn't know could be a number one but 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.800 now he is. I think, yes, you tag him. Here's 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:51.440 the thing, though, I still want a longer term deal done. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.240 When we're talking long term deals of running backs, we're 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.800 not talking quarterback contracts within seven, eight, nine years down 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.600 the road. You're talking three or four years for the 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.480 most part. If you could tell me Tony Pollard's coming 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:07.640 in for seven point five over the next three or 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.320 four years, to give it to me, because that's what 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.320 a running back, like you said, Time is of the essence, 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.760 especially at the running back position, because you know how 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.840 short the shelf life is for these high end running 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:23.920 backs to stay explosive and to remain game changers. I 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.960 think if you can get him on a longer term deal, 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.120 three or four years, you have him right around that 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:32.480 seven eight million dollar mark. You're winning on both sides 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.480 of the coin. Because Tony Pollard fits in a place 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.440 where he is welcome, where he fits in, he can 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.960 be the featured guy. I don't know if he can 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.560 necessarily do that anywhere in the NFL. He can certainly 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.920 go places, but I don't know if he fits anywhere 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:46.400 as good as he fits in Dallas. I think his 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.840 party would like something like that as well. I agree, 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.720 particularly on the last portion of that come in, and 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.200 it's something that I kind of pointed to over the 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.600 course of last season as we kind of foreshadowed the 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.400 coming free agency talks from Tony Pollard in that I 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:04.040 don't doubt that Tony Pollard can be the feature back 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.600 on other teams. But when you look at how teams 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.320 are starting the scheme at the running back position, they're 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.760 more so looking for that one to punch now. So 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.720 if he leaves Dallas, who's to say that his next 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.960 team he won't end up as a tandem guy there 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.760 as well. But now you're you're a tandem guy there 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.960 who has to re establish yourself as you have already 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.080 established yourself in Dallas, because now you're in Dallas, and 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.600 Dallas now understands what you can do. So they're not 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.680 going to put the leash back on you, so to speak, 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.000 going forward, They're going to continue to let you cook. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.360 You go into a new situation who might already have 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.160 at least one guy and they're looking at tandem and 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:40.800 you with that guy. But that guy already has the 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.800 rapport with the existing coaching regime, and you kind of 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.320 have to feel yourself out. So maybe it's a couple 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.840 of years of feeling that out. Maybe things grass isn't 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.560 always greener on the other side of the fence, basically 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.640 is what I'm getting to. And many a player in 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.840 the NFL have learned has learned that, and I'm a 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.840 huge player advocate as far as go and get your bag, 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.360 young young men, go and get your bag, because this 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.440 is generational wealth. You don't have many shots at this. 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.800 And this is his first goal at free agency. If 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.680 the Cowboys don't franchise tag him, which I really believe 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.560 they will ensued, but hypothetically speaking, if they don't and 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:16.160 these other teams are really throwing, you know, several million 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.960 dollars more on the table, your heart pressed to walk 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:20.400 away from that. So by all means, take care of 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.600 your family. But from a scheme standpoint, I don't know 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:25.880 that it gets much better than where you are at now, 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.720 especially when you look at Ezekiel Elliott. He will soon 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.320 turn thirty, so assume that he's still here. He'll soon 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:36.320 turn thirty. You will then be the feature back while 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.160 still having several years left when your contract, depending on 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.320 how long the long term deal will be. So I 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.640 think this is just it's a perfect situation for him 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.760 to remain. And I'm not speaking subjectively. I think if 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.320 you look at the landscape, you can be a feature 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.720 guy and the most electric guy here in this offense, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.320 or you can go and try to prove that you're 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.520 that somewhere else and where else in the NFL. His 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:02.440 value is going to be high, yeah, because he's got 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.600 low tread on the tires. Talk about somebody who's only 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.199 played really one full year as a featured back in 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.119 the NFL, but he has four years of being in 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.960 an NFL offense and playing an impact and having significant snaps. 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.119 I mean he played thirty percent of the snaps in 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.439 twenty twenty thirty again in twenty twenty one eighteen in 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.200 his rookie year and that had exploded to forty eight. 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.480 So he was just underneath the half amount of the 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:29.600 snaps for this Cowboys offense last year. So where else 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.920 in the NFL are you going to find four years 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:36.160 of experience and yet somebody who has had relatively low 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.399 injury history. Of course we know what just happened in 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.880 the playoff game, but relatively low injury history and something 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.560 that you can maybe rely on for the next three 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.520 or four years. A team will come after him and 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.840 he's no off the field issues, no great ful. If 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.920 Dallas wants to have a conversation, they're probably gonna have 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:58.800 to tag him. And it feels like that might eliminate leverage, Isaiah, 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.720 but it shouldn't because Tony Pollard still wants to be 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.640 here long term. He wants to sign a contract long 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.440 term because thirteen million or excuse me, ten million, ten 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:12.400 point nine sounds right, sounds nice, but what about seven 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.080 and a half of the next three or four years. 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:16.800 It's gonna be interesting to see how Dallas comes at 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.360 this just from the standpoint of their salary cap. But 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.639 I don't think that they. I do believe that they 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.320 hold him in high regard, and I think that he 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:29.120 understands that. But ultimately you can feel however you feel 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.879 about me. Whatever you write on that piece of paper 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:33.960 is what's going to really show me how much you 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.720 care about me. And as a player, yeah, and as 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:40.720 a player, I know, especially the Cowboys nation, right, the 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.160 fan base is strong, right, the strongest in the league. Yep. 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:45.800 People are going to feel some type of way if 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:50.119 he holds his ground and values himself and wants to 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.760 get his bag. But the reality is people that you 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.560 have a small opportunity as a player to have the 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:01.880 upper hand, and you work here entire life to take 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:05.480 care of yourself. You don't work your entire life to 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:10.320 take care of an organization. So I respect whatever direction 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:14.720 this goes going forward, and he deserves all the offers 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.160 that are going to come at him. Obviously, everybody here 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.800 hopes that he comes back to Dallas, But if it 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:21.520 doesn't pan out that way, I'm still going to hold 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:23.520 him in the highest of regards because this is the 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.359 only opportunity that you have to secure this deal. There 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:28.399 will be no other time in your life unless your 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:32.560 name is the rock to get bags like this going forward. Right, 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:37.040 So people people just have some empathy, right, have some 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.840 empathy as this process continues to depend itself out because 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.439 this is the greatest opportunity of this young man has 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.399 had in his entire life. He would love to do 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.440 it in Dallas, but Dallas better bring the right numbers. 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:51.639 This is where business takes the forefront. Yep. It is 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:54.760 a business. So you know, you love these players, but 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.040 like Asaiah said, like I said a moment ago, you 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.800 have to understand the business aspect. And it's no different 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:02.840 from when organizations sign a guy to a four year 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:06.199 deal and release him two years in. Right. The business 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.439