1 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: All right, welcome in Late Kick is Live. It is 2 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Thursday night, January fourteenth, year of Our Lord, twenty twenty one. 3 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: We have got a jam packed show as usual. 4 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: Tennessee is waiting on what we'll talk about it in 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: just a second. Texas is hiring hoops, which is our 6 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: word for the year. We'll talk about that coming up. 7 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: And LSU and Auburn are all kind of hoping right now. 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: But there's a lot of optimism around both of those programs, 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of optimism around Late Kick, cause, man, we. 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Got stuff going on all over the place. 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But remember 29 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: we only started this show at twenty four seven in March, 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: and so then we went into hiding for the rest 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: of the year pretty much, and so no one really 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: has a grasp in a non election, normal college football 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: season what kind of numbers we could do. Hopefully we 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: find out this year. But we're happy with where we're 35 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: at right now. So I wanted to remind you one 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: more thing. We're going to dive in because we've got 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: a lot of football to talk about tonight. I have 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: been on pause with our zoom sessions, our one on 39 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: one media consultation sessions. I'm opening those back up. I'm 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: doing it right now. I haven't told anyone, so it's 41 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: going to be first come, first serve. I've got a 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: little bit more time to dedicate to that now. 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: All it is. 44 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: Is anyone interested in maybe exploring a career in sports 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: media or and this is really important if you're looking 46 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: to start your own YouTube channel or podcast. Maybe it's 47 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: sports media, maybe it's a cooking channel, but you don't 48 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: quite have that expertise of like how to start it, 49 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: how do you monetize it, how do you get some 50 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: traction on it. I'm doing sessions for that very thing, 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: because that's how this show originally started. So Josh paid 52 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: seven zero six at gmail dot com or on Twitter, 53 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: you can DM me at late Kickjosh. 54 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: All right, let's dive in tonight. Man. 55 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: I said them three times already. That's a no no, Tennessee. 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: There's a lot of waiting going on in Knoxville. It 57 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: was a very big day today. Although if you were 58 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: just casually watching your TV, this is not something that 59 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: would have scrolled across the bottom line on any of 60 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: the major news networks. It's not necessarily something that would 61 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: have been all over the front page of twenty four 62 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: to seven sports dot com. But yet there's a lot 63 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: going on, and you Tennessee fans know exactly what I'm 64 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: talking about. If you don't, here we go. So I 65 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: have I've had my own personal feel on this, and 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: I don't think I need to rehash it anymore. It 67 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: is my feel, though, most recently, that what we've been 68 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: calling the point of no return was passed, and it 69 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: was passed several weeks ago, and basically the point of 70 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: no return is how far can we let this go 71 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: where Jeremy Prewitt may still have a chance to succeed 72 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: if he's retained. Well, I changed my philosophy on this. Now, 73 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: if you maybe the last time you watched the show 74 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: was in October, and now you're listening to what I'm 75 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: about to say, it's going to sound really hypocritical. It's not, 76 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: but I'm trying to explain why I changed my thinking. 77 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: My personal thinking going into twenty twenty was, as I've 78 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: told you many times, I didn't think anyone who wasn't 79 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: already on the hot seat should be placed on the 80 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: hot seat because of what's happening in twenty twenty. 81 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: Okay, but now I'm telling you. 82 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to work out with Jeremy 83 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: Prue at Tennessee, and I think they got to make 84 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: a move. 85 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: How did those two things jive? 86 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of like I was talking to a buddy, 87 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: a big Tennessee fan, the other day. He asked me, 88 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: how can you square one of those ideologies with the other. 89 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: And it would be like if I told you, as 90 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: long as I live in Tampa, Florida, I'm willing to 91 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: walk outside shirtless three hundred and sixty five days a year. 92 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: But then we moved to Minneapolis, and I'm no longer 93 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: willing to do it. And you say, I thought you 94 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: said you'd walk around shirtless every day three hundred and 95 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: sixty five days out of the year. I will as 96 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: long as we live in Tampa. We're in Minneapolis, I'm 97 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: not doing it anymore. And so having the conditions that 98 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: we have at Tennessee, I can no longer look at 99 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: Jeremy Pruitt. Even if I personally wouldn't put him on 100 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 2: the hot seat, it doesn't matter because he is on it, 101 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: and he's passed the point of no return. Now there's 102 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 2: been a hiring freeze, kind of a conditional one, which 103 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: is weird, and we're about to talk about hasn't been 104 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: able to hire recruits, have been bleeding. His own roster 105 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: has been bleeding, and I don't know that they can 106 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: stop it even if they were to retain and status 107 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: quo was maintained at this point. So the very latest, 108 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: including some happenings today, here's what's been going on. There 109 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: has been an internal investigation there. My best guess, based 110 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: on people I've talked to there is this stuff's been 111 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: really going on since late November early December. I think 112 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: the timeline will come more into focus as more of 113 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: the details are made public, and that's coming sooner rather 114 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: than later. 115 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: That's coming. So today was a big day there. 116 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: Today, according to many people behind the scenes at Tennessee, 117 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: was the first time really that lawyers and Jeremy Pruitt 118 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: and his representation in the university, they're all in a 119 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: room and findings are starting to be shared, and it's 120 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: sort of like, you know, you undo the envelope and 121 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: you open the paper and coach, here we go. Can 122 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: you explain this? Can you explain that? Can you explain 123 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: these bullet points? And it's probably the first time Jeremy 124 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: Prue has a chance to really defend himself in sort 125 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: of an open session there. Open in terms of everything 126 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: being on the table. I have no idea what a 127 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: timetable is, nor do I know what to expect. Like 128 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people woke up this morning thinking, Hey, 129 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: we're going to know by close of business today whether 130 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: Jeremy pru It's going to be. 131 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: Our head coach next week or not. 132 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: I don't know about that, However, I do expect a 133 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: resolution sooner rather than later. Now, the decision's going to 134 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: come shortly. That's my belief. Don't have that confirmed. That 135 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: is a widely held belief in circles in Knoxville right now. 136 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: What happened right before this though, because here's where it 137 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: gets really really interesting. 138 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: There's been a hiring freeze. 139 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: It's been widely reported to where Pruitt has not been 140 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: able to hire because the chancellor up there, you know, 141 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: it's very understandable looks and says, I don't know if 142 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 2: you're going to be here, So I'm certainly not going 143 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: to let you go hire other people and lock them 144 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: into two or three year contracts. 145 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: We're not doing that. Let let's just hold hold firm. 146 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna find out what these investigators know and then 147 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: we'll make a move. Well, then all of a sudden 148 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: you wake up and Kevin Steel's been hired by Tennessee 149 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 2: and You're like, what in the world, Kevin Steele, How 150 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: are we hiring him? 151 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: What role are we hiring him for? 152 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: Does anyone as of this moment know what role Kevin 153 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: Steele is going to fill? 154 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: There? No, you don't. 155 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: So I did a little digging on this, and I 156 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: know what the perception is. The perception is Steele's probably 157 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 2: being brought and I agree with this. By the way, 158 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: Steele's being brought in not necessarily given a title, because he. 159 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: Could fill any of a number of roles. 160 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: If Prewitt's still there, he may just be, oh, I 161 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: don't know, an off field analyst or something. 162 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: Or maybe a position coach. 163 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: Maybe he ends up being a defensive coordinator, or maybe 164 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: if Pruitt is ousted, he ends up being the head 165 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: coach permanent interim. 166 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 167 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: And what is known I guess by some people but 168 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: maybe not by most, is Steele and prud are very close, 169 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: very good friends. I was told this is the kind 170 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: of move that on his way out the door, even 171 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: if he knew he was on his way out the door, 172 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: this is the kind of solid that Jeremy Pruitt would 173 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: be willing to do if it was within his power. 174 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: To do it now. I can't tell you that's what's happening. 175 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: I can just tell you, you know, if you're wondering 176 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: if this has made Pruit irate or if he's on 177 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: board with it, you know, he probably views his situation 178 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: as being totally separate and independent of Kevin Steele being 179 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: brought in there, you know, and what happens to him 180 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: one way or the other. So that's the first thing. 181 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: Are they correlated? Are they connected? That's what we don't know, 182 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: but we will find out. So my feel is at 183 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: this point this is a matter of when Pruit's out 184 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: at Tennessee no longer, if he's going to be out 185 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: at Tennessee. That's my feel right now. And also, you know, 186 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: the natural follow up is, well, twofold number one, where 187 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: does he go? And we can answer that when the 188 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: time comes. But number two is what does Tennessee do? 189 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: And so that's what I want to focus on here. 190 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: There's been a lot of talk about Hugh Freese, understandably, 191 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: so I never talked to two people that say the 192 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: exact same thing about Hugh Freeze. I've spoken to people 193 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: who really want him at Tennessee. I've not spoken to 194 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: anyone at Tennessee who wants him at Tennessee. A lot 195 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 2: of people around the program do. I have talked to 196 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: people who say there's no shot from the league level 197 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: that he's going to be at Tennessee. Maybe people who 198 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: are going to make the decision at Tennessee look at 199 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 2: Hugh Freeze as a non starter. Like there are a 200 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: lot of differing philosophies. This really means no one really 201 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: knows anything. But he's a name that's at least going 202 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: to be thrown around. Doug Marone is a name that's 203 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: been thrown around. Jamie Chadwell at Coastal Carolina, Like, that's 204 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: a name that's been thrown around. These are popular names. 205 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: If you're in the Tennessee circles, you've heard these names. 206 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: But Steele is also there, and I think we have 207 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 2: to view Kevin Steele if this move is made as 208 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: a legitimate option. Now here's the biggest key. The biggest 209 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: key is what kind of option would he be? Because 210 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: the big key is you have to nail this. Here's 211 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: where it's not optional. Director Colin's big Tennessee guy. Director 212 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: Colin and I were talking like five minutes before the 213 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: show started and you know, we both agreed. Tennessee's been 214 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: in the wilderness. They've been in the wilderness for a 215 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: long time. I think they got one more shot to 216 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: get it right. With the way the landscape's changing, I'm 217 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 2: a believer Tennessee can still sit at the big boy table. 218 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: It's not too late. The sport has not left them 219 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: behind to the point where that room where all the 220 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: big boys hang out it's no longer attainable. I don't 221 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: believe that, but I believe the door is closing quickly. 222 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: So you know, there are two ways to look at 223 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: this like it can be a mess and it can 224 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: also be salvageable. 225 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: But the biggest key is you have to nail this. 226 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: You don't have to settle on your permanent replacement before 227 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one season starts, but what you do 228 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: have to do is refuse to lose the twenty twenty 229 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: one season. 230 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: So here's what I mean by that. 231 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: Kevin Steele could very well fill an interim head coaching 232 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: basis while you get an early head start on the 233 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: for real coaching search and you're looking to use the 234 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: entire season. It'd be kind of an unprecedented spot to 235 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: be in but you use the entire season and you 236 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: make sure you vet everybody this side of Jupiter that's 237 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: qualified to be the head coach at Tennessee. You get 238 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: all the big money involved, and you make sure you 239 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: scour the entire country and you nail the higher. 240 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: Don't care who it is, you got to nail the higher. 241 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm I think maintaining status quo would be losing the 242 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one season. By that, I mean I think 243 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: keeping Jeremy Pruitt would be losing the twenty. 244 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: Twenty one season. I can't find I love Jeremy Prude. 245 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: I cannot find any path where he remains the head 246 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: coach at Tennessee and things end up being turned around 247 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: for the better and they end up being a championship 248 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: caliber program. 249 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: Part of that is his fault. 250 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: Another part of that is the position the university has 251 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: put him in, maybe through his fault, maybe because of 252 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: this investigation. Whatever you want to know, however you want 253 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: to frame that, I don't think there's a way forward. 254 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: There's what I'm telling you. I hate talking about that 255 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Never do I call for people's jobs 256 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: on here, and I'm not doing it now. Like we 257 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: don't do much hot seat talk. We really I don't 258 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: like it. It makes me feel kind of icky, But 259 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: I think those are the facts. So Tennessee, I think 260 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: has one more shot. If they have a coaching search 261 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: coming up, I think they got one more shot. The 262 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: next higher they make, whether it's Kevin Steele or someone else, 263 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 2: I think the next higher they make, that's going to 264 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: determine the next entire generational chapter of Tennessee football. So 265 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: the landscape shifting, we all see it shifting right now. 266 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: There is there's one school of thought that Tennessee's are 267 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: been left behind. What they were capable of in the 268 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: late nineties early two thousands, they're no longer capable of. 269 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: I don't believe that. I've made the case for the 270 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: Tennessee job several times. But the bottom line is, if 271 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: you don't have the right man in the driver's seat, 272 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what I or anyone else think the program's 273 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: capable of. 274 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: It is not good. Right now, it can be good, and. 275 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if ninety nine percent of the coaching 276 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 2: public out there views it as a B tier or 277 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: C tier job. 278 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: If you find the one. 279 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: Right guy, that's all it takes, you know, Alabama was 280 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: a total train wrep when they ended up getting Nick 281 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: Saban to buy into the vision of Alabama football. If 282 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: if you're twenty two years old right now, I'm speaking 283 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 2: Mandarin Chinese, you could never imagine a world where University 284 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: of Alabama football is not on top of the world. Well, 285 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 2: there was a time, folks where Alabama was in every 286 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: bit the mess that Tennessee football's in right now. There 287 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: was one guy, even as the rich Roderiguez is of 288 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: the world, we're turning it down, there was one guy 289 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: that mal Moore got to buy into the vision of 290 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: University of Alabama football and what it could be. 291 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: It just so happened to be Nick Saban. I'm gonna 292 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: say this. 293 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: It's a very loaded sentence, and I understand how unrealistic 294 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: this part is, but understand the principle that I mean 295 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: when I say this, you. 296 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: Got to go find your Nick Saban. 297 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: So you've got to go find the one guy who 298 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: happens to be right for the job and who buys 299 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: into the vision of what the job could be and 300 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: the program could be. 301 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: That's it. It's as easy and as hard as that. 302 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: But first things first, we got to get all this 303 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: Jeremy Prutz stuff and this investigation stuff figured out. So 304 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: I highly advise you this is the last show we're 305 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: doing until Sunday. I highly advise you to stay tuned 306 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: to the channel, keep it locked on twenty four seven 307 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 2: sports dot com. You can follow me on Twitter at 308 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 2: late Kickjosh, because I can assure you there'll be more 309 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: information coming out about this tomorrow over the weekend, like 310 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: who knows what Friday and Saturday could bring here. There 311 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: is a lot going on at Texas too. This is 312 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: another ut and this has been really interesting. Steve Sarkisian's 313 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: been busy. Steve Sarkisan, the new head coach at Texas, 314 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: just won a national championship at Alabama. You know, I 315 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: was talking earlier today with one of you actually, and 316 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: I had been going back and forth about how to 317 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: break up the Alabama monopoly and the Ohio State clems. 318 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: In the very few at the top, the elites that 319 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 2: are apparently monopolistically strangleholding college football. And I don't believe that. 320 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: I know that's what it looks like, but I don't 321 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: believe that that's. 322 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: What's actually going on. 323 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: I just think there are a few programs out there 324 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: who have harnessed the sport to their advantage and done 325 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: what other programs are capable of doing it. They've just 326 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: done it the right way and they're reaping the benefits 327 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: right now. It's nothing that tech Texas isn't capable of. 328 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: It's nothing Southern cal isn't capable of. It's nothing Michigan 329 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: and Tennessee aren't capable of. You just haven't done it, 330 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: and they have. Okay, So now Texas has got sark 331 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: and he's in the driver's seat at Texas, and I 332 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: have long maintained the simple solution to competing with the 333 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: big boys is make better hires. 334 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: So stands to reason Steve Sarkisian. 335 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: You know, we're still out to lunch on whether he's 336 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: going to be an elite head coach. Hey, he's doing 337 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: some coach poaching though, so he's making it's a good 338 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: assistant coaching hires. He has targeted a lot of Alabama guys, 339 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: and it's rubbed some of you Alabama folks the wrong way. 340 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: I think the uh, I think the head coach at 341 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: Alabama has been none too pleased with at least. 342 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: One of these departures. 343 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: So Kyle Flood was the offensive line coach at Alabama. 344 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: He has gone on to be named the O line 345 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: slash offensive coordinator at Texas. Now that role is going 346 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: to be a little different because Sark's going to call 347 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: the plays. But yet when you get that OC next 348 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: to your name, you get a big pay increase. And 349 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: so pay increase is going to be a familiar theme 350 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: for anyone who gets. 351 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: Hired at Texas. 352 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: Like if Texas hired director Colin and I to do 353 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: late Kick, we'll get a four hundred percent pay increase, 354 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: because that's just that's what happens when you print money. 355 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Jeff Banks was the big news today. 356 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: Jeff Banks is the was the special teams coach at Alabama, 357 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: a really really integral part of their Texas recruiting apparatus. 358 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: And he's from Texas. He's got kids in Texas. He's 359 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: now going back to Texas as tight ends and special 360 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: teams coach. That's one that you know, We've gotten word 361 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: from a couple of people. Nick Saban wasn't all that 362 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: thrilled about. However, he has gotten a pay bump. Keep 363 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: in mind what I just told you. That's not an 364 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, that is a tight ends, special teams coach, 365 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: and he's going to make right at one million dollars 366 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: per year over the next three years, a little north 367 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: of one million a year. Defensive line coach Bo Davis 368 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: is the guy out there. He's been a guy that's 369 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: been around Nick Saban a whole lot outside the linebackers coach. 370 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: I've seen tadj Lupoie's name thrown around, and so there's 371 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: a lot of Alabama flavor there, you'll notice. And the 372 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: philosophy is pretty easy to get. You look where Sark was, 373 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: then you look where he went, and you look where 374 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: he is now. And the whole Sark to Texas higher 375 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: essentially is about Texas hiring Steve Sarkisian version twoenty fifteen 376 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: and beyond. Because if you were to just look at this, 377 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: and you were to say, they just got rid of 378 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: who Tom Herman and he went thirty two and eighteen 379 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: at Texas and they hired who Steve Sarkisian and he 380 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: went forty six and thirty five in his career as 381 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: a head coach. 382 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: How is this an upgrade? 383 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: Well, for for all intents and purposes, as far as 384 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: Texas is concerned, you might as well not even look 385 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: at Sarks head coaching record, because they don't view themselves 386 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: as hiring that guy. 387 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: That guy had off field issues, that guy had a 388 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: lot to learn. 389 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: Like they're hiring the Alabama version. They're hiring the version 390 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: of Steve Sarkisian who has worked under Nick Saban and 391 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: hopefully gleaned a lot of new structural leadership type intangibles 392 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: from Nick Saban. That's what they're hoping. Whether that ends 393 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: up being the case or not, it remains to be seen. 394 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 2: But the belief is they've got the new and improved 395 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: version of Steve Sarkisian. He is obviously bought into that 396 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: philosophy too, because that's why he wants a lot of 397 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: folks who've been in his life the past five years 398 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: and who have been around that Alabama machine too, so 399 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: that he's not walking in the door trying to explain 400 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 2: to everybody in that organization how it's supposed to work, 401 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: and it be foreign language to everyone. He's got some 402 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: guys who know what the game's about. He's got some 403 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: guys who know what that process is about. And it 404 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: stands the reason, you know, if he's twenty fifteen to 405 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty version Steve sarkis he wants as many people 406 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: who he's been around in that timeframe, So it really 407 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: jives with that philosophy. It also jives with some of 408 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: the other reporting. You know, I was looking at our 409 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 2: guys and girls over at Horns twenty four to seven 410 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: dot com before we came on air here, and you know, 411 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: there was an anecdote that I had not heard. Actually 412 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: i'd heard it from one person. I didn't know how 413 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: legitimate it was. Tom Herman went after this is according 414 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: to Chip over at Horns twenty four seven win after 415 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: Jeff Banks this time last year, wanted to hire him 416 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: on the staff this time last year, and Banks didn't 417 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: go for the same reason that a lot of people 418 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: didn't want to attach themselves to that Texas job. 419 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: They didn't know about the job status of Tom Herman. 420 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: And that was pretty prophetic as it turns out, and 421 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 2: it wasn't all that hard to figure out, to be 422 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: honest with you. So now we're looking at defensive coordinator. 423 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: This is the next really juicy domino that is going 424 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: to fall, and it involves a number of teams. That's 425 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 2: why it's really important to pay attention this time of year, 426 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: because this is not just going to affect Texas, it 427 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: could affect Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama like a lot of dominoes. 428 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: When I tell you a program is a keystone program, 429 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 2: this is exactly what I mean. The defensive coordinator move 430 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: that's about to be made here will have a ripple 431 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: effect that is felt by a number of programs, and 432 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: then their subsequent move will be felt by a number 433 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 2: of programs, and it ends up affecting the entire sport 434 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: in some shape, form or fashion. But it hinges a 435 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: lot on what Nick Saban's going to do. So right now, 436 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: Saban's got a defensive coordinator. His name's Pete Golden. Pete 437 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 2: Golding's name has been mentioned pretty prominently over the past 438 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: week with the Texas job. Ever since you knew that 439 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisan was going to take the head coaching job. 440 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: Now Pete Golding to Texas. How in the world would 441 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 2: that happen? Well, I think it had happened with Nick 442 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: Saban's blessing, and that's about the only way it had happened. 443 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: How would Nick Saban let his defensive coordinator walk away? Answer? 444 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: If he knew he had an upgrade replacement already ready 445 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: to come in the door. Who would that be, Well, 446 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: I think it'd be Jeremy PRUITTT. But I also see 447 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: the reporting over at Horns twenty four to seven about 448 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: you know, Dan Lanning at Georgia, And now I got 449 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: to tell you that's not something I've heard. That's the 450 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: first I've heard of. That doesn't mean it's not true. 451 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: That's the first I've heard of it. And so the 452 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: point is, I think we're in Wade and Ce mode. 453 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: Now you see why I focus so much on Tennessee. 454 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: It could very well be that the decision Tennessee makes 455 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: impacts the decision Nick Saban makes, impacts the decision Steve 456 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: Sarkeesian makes, and so you could. 457 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: Have a whole lot of guys moving around. 458 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: I mean, Golding's been mentioned loosely with the LSU defensive 459 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: coordinator opening. So you got all these names, and you 460 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: got all this dust that has to settle. And that's 461 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: what I'm watching, and that's why I'm focused so much 462 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: on this. I don't know if it's a triangle, but 463 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: this circle, this coaching circle of life, if you will, 464 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: because I think a lot of it's going to be 465 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: precipitated for better or for worse for a number of 466 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: programs by what Tennessee does. But that is that's where 467 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 2: Preuit ties in, and that's what I think we're waiting 468 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 2: on right now. All right, Speaking of a couple of 469 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: programs that I just mentioned, I've gotten a lot of 470 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: feedback from you guys. We were really really hardcore on 471 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: the National title game, so I haven't gotten a chance 472 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: to talk about the lot. There are a lot of 473 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: coaching moves going on. That's predominantly what we're talking about 474 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: in January, a little bit of recruiting as we get 475 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: towards the regular signing day. We got some news coming 476 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: up on that. Not tonight, but we got some news 477 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 2: coming up on that, so stay tuned for that. 478 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: LSU and Auburn. 479 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: If I were to ask you right now, over the 480 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: next five years, I'm going to give you stock, but 481 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: you can only put it in one of those programs. 482 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: Is LSU or is Auburn going to be where you 483 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: put your money? I think we could make an argument 484 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: for both. I am very much throwing this out there 485 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: in an open ended fashion. I'm really interested in what 486 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: you guys have to say because I don't necessarily know 487 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: where I'm falling on this quite yet. But I'm making 488 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: two assumptions as we get into this assumption. Number one, 489 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: I think this one's pretty safe. Even the most ardent 490 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: of Alabama haters will have to agree that for the 491 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: time being, Alabama's the alpha dog in the SEC West. 492 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: So I don't think they're going anywhere. Now here's the 493 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: assumption you could argue with. But I'm telling you this 494 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: is how I feel. I think Texas A and M 495 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: is there to stay. So I think they're going to 496 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 2: be near the top. They're going to be in the 497 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: conversation for the number two or number three spot at 498 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 2: the very worst in the SEC West for several years 499 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: to come. Okay, So what I'm telling you is there 500 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 2: are four programs. This is why this is the most 501 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: unique and cutthroat division in college football. There are four 502 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: programs in the SEC West where the expectation is a level. 503 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: There are not. 504 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: Enough wins to go around in the SEC West in 505 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 2: any year or over a period of years for all 506 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 2: four programs to be meeting or exceeding. 507 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: The expectation level. The math doesn't add up. And so Auburn, LSU, 508 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: Texas A, and M, Alabama, all of them pay top dollar. 509 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: All of them are fully invested. Everyone's all in. They 510 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: want top dollar results, they want A plus results. You 511 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: can't get them. 512 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: And so that's why I think the LSU Auburn comparison 513 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: is so important right now. If you're making the assumption 514 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: I'm making, which is BAMA and A and M are 515 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 2: going to be there, we may only have one more 516 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: seat at the table. This isn't even the first time 517 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: I approached this topic of conversation on this show. 518 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: So who are you buying the next five years? 519 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: If you're watching the video or the live show, you 520 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: can give me your feedback in the comment section below. 521 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: But there's sort of this reset button feel for both 522 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: of them. Obviously, with Auburn, they just hired Brian Harson. 523 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 2: He's got a new staff in I'm about to talk 524 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: about in just a second. I don't know if you 525 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: guys have been paying attention to this. I know you 526 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 2: Auburn fans have. He's been making some moves now. There's 527 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: one very popular talking point out there about Harson amongst 528 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: some of you that I don't agree with. So the 529 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: startover is obviously in place at Auburn. Now at LSU, 530 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: you hadn't made a firing of the head coach announcement 531 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: or anything like that. But you haven't done what Auburn 532 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 2: did there, but you have kind of done the reset 533 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: yourself because it's kind of like, you know, the exterior 534 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: of the house is remaining, but there's a big interior 535 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 2: remodeling project underway. Now this is independent of any of 536 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 2: the Title nine investigation. I don't know when that's going 537 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 2: to be concluded. I don't know when we're going to 538 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: have findings. What they're going to be, I don't know. 539 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 2: So let's just assume for a second, even though we 540 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: really can't in the real world, let's just assume for 541 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 2: a second that's not going to derail the entire program, 542 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 2: and let's just talk about football. Lsu ed ors Ron 543 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: was disgusted with the product that they put on the 544 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: field this year. So he goes and gets Jake Pete's 545 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: and he basically he swallows his pride and he calls 546 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: Joe Brady, his old offensive coordinator. 547 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: He says, Joe, who can do what you could do? 548 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: And Joe says, I don't have a Joe Brady impression, 549 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: but he says, this guy, I think it was an 550 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: assistant up at Carolina when Joe Brady was up there 551 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: this year, and so basically they're just trying to find 552 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: out who can do what they did a couple of 553 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: years ago. They're trying to replicate that. I mean, I 554 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: don't think that's the worst idea in the world. So 555 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 2: LSU is going to have a lot of players return, 556 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of them. They're going to have 557 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 2: new pieces on the coaching staff. But the culture was 558 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: the issue there this year. Okay, So that's where the 559 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 2: big question mark is still to me is if we believe, 560 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: and I do believe this, that culture is basically the 561 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 2: fingerprint that a head coach puts on his program, and 562 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: the culture was awful there this year. 563 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: What has to change? 564 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: I mean in a normal circumstance, what would you say 565 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: needs to change? Well, you would say you need a 566 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 2: change in leadership. Well, that's not happening for the time 567 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 2: being at LSU. But we've also seen LSU win a 568 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: national title under Edorzron. So it's not like we are 569 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: guessing whether he's capable. He's capable of being the head 570 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: coach for a national championship winning program. Director Colin is 571 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: showing you footage straight from the eye Josh, where we 572 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: followed ed Orzron off the field a year ago. What 573 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: was it last night? I think a year ago yesterday. 574 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: So you know, this is still fresh and everyone's mind. 575 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: Some of the confetti's probably still in the pocket of 576 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: one of my pairs of kakis somewhere. 577 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: So that's the LSU side of things. What about Auburn. 578 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: Auburn is sitting there with a brand new head coach, 579 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 2: So this is a foreshore re reset button that's being hit. 580 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: In Lee County, Alabama. 581 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: Here's the talking point that I was talking about that 582 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 2: a lot of folks have attached to Brian Harson that 583 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: I don't really buy into. Since he has no connection 584 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: to the South, He's going to be behind the eight 585 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: ball and probably won't succeed down here. Now I cannot 586 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 2: guarantee you he's going to succeed, but I'm telling you 587 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: I think one of the most overblown talking points in 588 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: the coaching hiring world is do you have ties? Here's 589 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: what you need to have a tie to being able 590 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: to install and establish an excellent culture. If you, as 591 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: a head coach can do that, here's what you can 592 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: also do. You can hire And here's what you can 593 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: do when you hire. 594 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: You can go get folks that have that aforementioned connection 595 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: to the South. You know names like Mike. 596 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: Bobo is your offensive coordinator, Derek Mason fascinating as your 597 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. How about Will Friend as your O line coach? 598 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 2: How about Cadillac as your running back coach? Like you 599 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: can fill your staff with guys who know every single 600 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 2: back road from Fort Payne to Mobile and everywhere in between. 601 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: You can do that with your hires. It doesn't matter 602 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: what kind of connection you have. Jeremy Pruitt knows the 603 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: South like the back of his hand. How's Tennessee Farren right? Now? 604 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: I think way too much. 605 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: In hires in the SEC sometimes is put into this 606 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: incestuous mentality of if you haven't coached down here, there's 607 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: no way we can ever entertain the idea of you 608 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: coaching down here. 609 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: Now, I want a guy who's proven he can win. 610 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 1: That's what I want. Because here's the thing about the 611 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: formula for success. 612 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: It works If it works in Juno, Alaska, it'll work 613 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, Florida. 614 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: And everywhere in between. 615 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: I believe in geographic alliteration, and so Brian Harson has 616 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: put together a pretty impressive track record as a head coach. 617 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 2: Now he started to put together a coaching staff that 618 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 2: knows the back rows, they know recruiting, they know the 619 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: scene in the SEC so everyone's familiar down here. Derek Mason, 620 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 2: in particular, is one of to me, the most interesting 621 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: assistant coaching hires in all of college football. Like this 622 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: time last year, I thought Kurt Soraka was this. He 623 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 2: didn't pan out at Penn State for several reasons, and 624 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 2: they've already fired him. This year's most interesting coordinator hire 625 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: to me may very well be Derek Mason. Think about 626 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: Derek Mason. So he was the head coach at Vandy, 627 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: he gets fired. I'm a big believer in getting as 628 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 2: many former head coaches as you possibly can on your 629 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: coaching staff. Derek Mason. No one doubts his defensive credentials. 630 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: What kind of recruiter is Derek Mason? 631 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 1: Do you have any idea? I think maybe if you're 632 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: unfamiliar with his history, you may say, oh, he's never 633 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: landed many four or five star guys. Yeah, where's he been? 634 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: Stanford and Vanderbilt? Where? What stop on this Wikipedia resume 635 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: of Derek Mason's would he have shown you what kind 636 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: of recruiter he is? 637 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: Well, this is the stop. Auburn University is the stop, 638 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: because now no one's gonna get caught up in a 639 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: bunch of academic red tape trying to get a guy 640 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: into school. 641 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: Okay, you can compete heads up with Georgia or Florida 642 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: or Alabama and you can get guys into school. You 643 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: know what it could be. It could be that Brian 644 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: Harson found an A level coach and an A level recruiter. 645 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 646 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you I don't think we've scratched the 647 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 2: surface of knowing what kind of recruit Derek Mason could be. 648 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: He's ultra relatable, like everyone who's ever been around him 649 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: loves him. That's why universally, when Vanderbilt fired him, you 650 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: know a lot of people spoke out in support of 651 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: Derek Mason because everyone loves him. Well, that'll probably bleed 652 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: over to the players at Auburn too, and it could 653 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: very well bleed over on the recruiting trail. So you know, 654 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: I think anyone's guess is as good as mine right 655 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: now as to who you should buy into. Because here's 656 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: what we know. Well, here's what I think I know. 657 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,239 Speaker 2: I don't think recruiting will ever be an issue as 658 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: long as that Oris Roun's at LSU. I don't think 659 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: culture will ever be an issue as long as Brian 660 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: Harson is at Auburn. If you could guarantee me that 661 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: LSU gets the culture figured out, or that Auburn gets 662 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: the recruiting figured. 663 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: Out, well that'll go a long way. 664 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: And ultimately determining who gets that third seat and maybe 665 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: second seat or eventually first seat at the table in 666 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: the SEC West and who's making another coaching change or 667 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: another round of assistant coaching changes two or three years 668 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: from now. 669 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: Really interesting to watch. 670 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: I wanted to remind you we are back on schedule now, 671 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: so let me lay out for how this is going 672 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: to work. 673 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: So we do Latekick Live. 674 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: We have been doing it Sunday night, Tuesday night, and 675 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: Thursday night during the season. In the off season, we 676 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: shift down to two live shows a week, so that's 677 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: about to start this next week, so we'll be live 678 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: Sunday night and Thursday night, eight Eastern, seventh Central. 679 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: Same time. We also are continuing to do the Late Kick. 680 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: Extra podcast, and so if you're a subscriber to the 681 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: Late Kick podcast, which you should because it's free every 682 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: Tuesday morning, and every Thursday morning we have a mailbag episode. 683 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: And because I had a combination of Christmas and COVID 684 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: and Bowl games and New Year's National Title game, we've 685 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: kind of been out of format. 686 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: Well we're back in format now, so you can submit 687 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: those questions. 688 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: Joshpat seven zero six at gmail dot com on Twitter 689 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: at Latekickjosh, And I'm going to start I want to 690 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: start doing those episodes like we were doing where they're 691 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: about forty to forty five minutes long and we bang 692 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: out like twenty questions instead of taking about five questions 693 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: and expanding the answer, which is fine with me too, 694 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: but I want to I want to hit as many 695 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: questions as possible because I like interacting with you guys 696 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: as often as poss We always have a heads up 697 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: and a head start on this show on kind of 698 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: what the pulse is. We do a whole segment called 699 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: the Mood Tracker for fan bases, which we're gonna do 700 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: later this month. And the reason we do it is 701 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: cause we talk to you guys so much. We know 702 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: how you feel and so we get a lot of 703 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: content out of that. 704 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's I've told you before. That's the ideal 705 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: world where you're stacking and formatting the show and I 706 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: just talk about what you're feeling. So that's what we 707 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: try to do here is what we will try to. 708 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: Do until next time, which will be Sunday night. You guys, 709 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: have a great early start to your weekend. 710 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: And that's for me. 711 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: That's from director Colin, that's from producer Jordan on the 712 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: podcast side of things. 713 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for allowing us to do what we 714 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: do here and bring it to you. Until next time, 715 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: have a great rest of your evening and God blessed.