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Speaker 4: But now I just feel like I'm free and I

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Speaker 3: You know, if I put my all into some then

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Speaker 2: Same out of it. And that's what I said. If

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Speaker 2: And here we are. You know, I'm teen years later.

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Speaker 1: are heading into week one, be at the crib to

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Speaker 1: here his poison. I only have a big game, but

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Speaker 1: I'm good, feeling good. Hey brother, It's good to have

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Speaker 1: First days, first man. Last time I spoke to you,

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Speaker 1: How was this off season for you?

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Speaker 4: It was good, man. I had trained a bunch, got

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Speaker 1: Ready for the season.

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Speaker 3: Got ready for this season.

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Speaker 1: And last year you told me a big part of

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Speaker 4: This off season was really just like just like endurance

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Speaker 1: You know what about last year or just your whole

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Speaker 4: You know, it's just like after just watching last year film,

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Speaker 3: Use the word fun.

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Speaker 1: I think we've all had fun of watching you stand

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Speaker 4: He uses his like his size as his strength, and

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Speaker 1: On what year is this for you?

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Speaker 3: Many? Man?

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Speaker 1: The average lifespan for an NFL player is like two

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to imagine you, man is crazy, But that's dope.

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Speaker 1: You have a cirtain. No, No, I think you like

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Speaker 3: They don't know, you know what I mean, what's the future.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I said. If you take care of football,

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Speaker 2: And here we are. You know, I'm teen years later.

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Speaker 2: Like I said before, you don't know what life is

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Speaker 2: Man, That's why I embrace it and I appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: Success feels like turning losses into wins. Now, let's go

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Speaker 3: It hit me because, like I said before, you.

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Speaker 2: Not like if I've never got that kind of opportunity

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Speaker 2: So as a player, when I was asked, you know

441
00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,119
Speaker 2: what you want your legacy to be, and I used

442
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,119
Speaker 2: to always think about it, I don't know, you know,

443
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,439
Speaker 2: And I say, when I look back at it, I

444
00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,000
Speaker 2: was like, you know, a guy that did more with less.

445
00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,480
Speaker 3: And that's how I look at it, you know.

446
00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't always get a chance to achieve

447
00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,280
Speaker 2: some of the things I saw my peers doing, but

448
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,960
Speaker 2: when I did, trust me, it was one of those things.

449
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,640
Speaker 2: It was the moments that you want to be there

450
00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,000
Speaker 2: to see. And that's how I appreciate the game. And

451
00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,479
Speaker 2: then the fans always let me know that, you know,

452
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,320
Speaker 2: when I was out there, always laid it on the

453
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,719
Speaker 2: line for them and they appreciate it. So to know

454
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 2: that the team, the organization felt the same way. Man,

455
00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 2: it was joy and those tales was tears of joy.

456
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:11,880
Speaker 4: Man.

457
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,879
Speaker 1: It was such a heavy moment. And like you know me,

458
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,879
Speaker 1: you work with me a lot. I don't get too nervous.

459
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't get too raded when it comes.

460
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 3: To the stuff.

461
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,479
Speaker 1: But with stuff like that, Bro, I had butterflies. I

462
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 1: was nervous because it's such a big moment, right, It's

463
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 1: such a big part of your story. And again, that

464
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,280
Speaker 1: kind of stuff isn't promised no matter what you do

465
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 1: in this world. Sometimes you'll never get those flowers when

466
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 1: you're here to smell them. So to me, it was

467
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 1: just amazing to see you be able to receive those

468
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 1: flowers from my God that loves you so much, a

469
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 1: beamish but then to see all the people that truly

470
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 1: love you, not just love you, but I know each

471
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,120
Speaker 1: and every one of those people around you were part

472
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 1: of your story, were part of what got you here. Man.

473
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 1: How special was it to be able to share in

474
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,480
Speaker 1: that moment because again, you probably just like black noise, like,

475
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, so entry the real fame. Then all

476
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 1: of a sudden, twenty thirty people fill that tent just

477
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 1: to show.

478
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,400
Speaker 3: You love, I reflected more.

479
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 2: I mean those folks that was there, you know, they

480
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 2: had no choice, because I'm sure they can tell you

481
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 2: a lot that eighty nine have done for them. But

482
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 2: at the same time, we don't look at it like, yeah, man,

483
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 2: when I mess with you, when I rock with you, man,

484
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 2: I don't care about you ever repaying that back.

485
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,920
Speaker 3: I just want to show you that every day that

486
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 3: I mess with you like that.

487
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 2: And my brothers was there, my close friends was there,

488
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 2: and then people that I've become friends with since I've

489
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 2: been here. But the people that I knew that I'm

490
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 2: gonna get a chance to share this moment with the

491
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 2: most wasn't there. And that was my mom and my dad.

492
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,159
Speaker 2: And I thought about them instantly immediately because I understood

493
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 2: the whole upbringing and the things that different things that

494
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 2: they showed me as a kid of how to be

495
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: successful in life. You know, my mom and dad wasn't

496
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 2: no athletes. I mean when my mom was a hell

497
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 2: of an athlete in high school. But I'm saying as

498
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 2: an adult man, they just raised their kids to be

499
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 2: the best that we can be. And I saw how

500
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 2: they worked. I saw what they did when we didn't

501
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 2: have We ain't know. I never went through a moment

502
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 2: of not feeling night we didn't have anything, because they

503
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 2: always made sure that we had everything we needed.

504
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 3: You might not have what you want, but you had

505
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 3: what you need.

506
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 2: And so being able to say I get a chance

507
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 2: to kind of I called it like my stamp to

508
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 2: my family name. That's a stamp for us to say, damn,

509
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 2: my son went up there and he was able to

510
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 2: come here and do that, you know. And you know

511
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 2: when you look up there and see that name, it's

512
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 2: not just Santana Moss, it's Lord and Natalie Moss, you

513
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 2: know what I mean, that's their son. So to me,

514
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 2: that's like the ultimate thank y'all for giving me air,

515
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 2: giving me this life, and then I'm able to pay

516
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 2: y'all back in that that fashion.

517
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 1: What was that conversation like, because of course they weren't

518
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: able to be here in the tent, thank goodness, it

519
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: was like one hundred and ten degrees. But when you

520
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: were able to call them and let them know, hey, Mama, Hey, pops,

521
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: your boy did it? Man? What was that conversation?

522
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 3: They knew, they already had knew.

523
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 2: Everybody knew but me, you know, my brother, because my

524
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: brother got the news like a month or so early,

525
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: and they was basically telling everybody, Hey, this is going down,

526
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: but don't tell Tan. You know what I'm saying, And

527
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 2: that's that's the name that they called me a home,

528
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 2: that's my nickname, and so they knew. My mom said, taing,

529
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. I was, you know, and to

530
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 2: that day that they actually surprised you. When I saw it,

531
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 2: She's like, I shared a till because I know it

532
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 2: felt good for you know what I'm saying, all the

533
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: work we donet see you go through so much to

534
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: have that kind of accomplishment or to have that kind

535
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: of honor, you know, to be honored in that way.

536
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: She said, I had, I shared the till.

537
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: But they gonna be here come Sunday, and so you know,

538
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: hopefully they don't get emotional like I told them.

539
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 3: On drafted.

540
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: I remember getting drafted and I remember thinking them then,

541
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And every time I've had

542
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,959
Speaker 2: one of those pivotal moments in my career.

543
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: That's what I think about the most.

544
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I'm like, Damn, these people

545
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 2: here bless me to be able to walk this walk

546
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 2: this earth, man, and you know, and breathe in this air.

547
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 2: And all I want to do as a kid was

548
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: make them proud. And I can honestly say, Man, they

549
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: done saw it. They saw it all they've been in.

550
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: They've been in every battle with me. They've been in

551
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 2: every high, and they've been on every low. And for

552
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: me to be able to continue to give them things

553
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 2: to be happy about, Man, that's more than a blessing.

554
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: Man, that is so dope, And it's just honestly a blessing.

555
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: You even get to share this, right, because so many

556
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: of us don't even get to share these big moments.

557
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: With our parents.

558
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: Who salute your parents, Man, can't wait to see that.

559
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: And it isn't just the fan base that's shown you love.

560
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: It's not just Command Center that showed you love. ESPN.

561
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: Now you're on the CW all of these national outlets,

562
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: Bleacher Report. Man, you was in a car in a

563
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: NASCAR riding around. Man, has that been surreal for you

564
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: to see the national love you? Because you know what

565
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: you've done here, you know what you mean to this community.

566
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: But the entire nation is showing love the Santanta mass

567
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 1: and giving your flowers. Man, it's got to be overwhelming

568
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: a little bit.

569
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't really think about it, you know, so much,

570
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: because I feel like since I've stepped away from the

571
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: game a little bit, I've been doing a lot more

572
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 2: in front of the camera, so I kind of get

573
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: a lot of that attention, you know, rightfully, so because

574
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: I was out of a player, you know what I mean,

575
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: And that name always rained, you know, people were telling

576
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: me my name was something, specially before I even touched

577
00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: the football.

578
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 3: You know.

579
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: I was in elementary school and I had a peeteacher said, man,

580
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 2: ten years from now, I'm gonna hear that name.

581
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 3: Wow. And I remember ten years, it won't even ten years.

582
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: I had to move from that area and I'm running tracks,

583
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: you know, summer track, and the guy just so happened

584
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: to be one of the guys that was clocking me

585
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: come across the line, and when he wanted to get me,

586
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 2: like you know how they you know, everybody who's clocking

587
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: the individual guys ran in that race.

588
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,959
Speaker 3: When he went to grab me and he looked at

589
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: my face. He was like, sat town of Moss.

590
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: I told you you're gonna be special, and I'm like, yeah,

591
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: I kind of been working on this from day one,

592
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like I was in the

593
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: panther running around the house giving people a causing havoc.

594
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 2: My mama to get that boy outside because he just

595
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, That's what I've always been on,

596
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: Like I was gonna do something with that football and running.

597
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 3: That's all I did. You know, I hit the ground running.

598
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: So when I see some of the stuff that's coming

599
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: or the ass came my way since I stepped away

600
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: from the game. Like I said before, Man, I embraced

601
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 2: it because I understand it been a long journey to

602
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: kind of do what I done, and if it's credit due,

603
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 2: then I'm gonna receive it in that way, you know

604
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm not gonna shy away from it.

605
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: But like I said before, I'm not a person to

606
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 2: sit there and want to want it or ask for

607
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,959
Speaker 2: it when it comes. Man, I embraced it and I

608
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: appreciate it, and I tried to do it in the.

609
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: Not so nonchalant wait.

610
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: Like I told you before, I'm one of those guys

611
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: that I might be jumping for joy inside, but I

612
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: can never show that because I'm not that kind of person.

613
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, super noachalant man. And it's funny.

614
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: I think about a coach selling you you're gonna beat

615
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: somebody some day, and I'm sure you heard that, like

616
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: you said, from a bunch of people. The name rang

617
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: bells before you ever hit that field. But it's one

618
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: thing to have that belief, but it's different when you

619
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: finally see it in yourself, when you believe in yourself

620
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: and know that you're capable of this. When it's saying

621
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: Town of Mars, know that he was going to be

622
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: what everybody thought he was capable, I.

623
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 3: Don't know, man, I was just wired to always believe.

624
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: I remember being a kid, and this is how I

625
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: know I was kind of different. And I'm not saying

626
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: that in a way like this guy, which is so

627
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: much different than everybody. No, it's not going to be

628
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: portrayed that way. But and I asked my kids this,

629
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: what are y'all thinking at times? And I'm not asking

630
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: them that because they did something odd or something wrong.

631
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: I just remember the thoughts I used to have, Like

632
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: I remember being outside my grandmother's house one day and

633
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: just running up and down, and that's where we was

634
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: living there, and I was running up and down.

635
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 3: I would go walk to the corner.

636
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: And it was a it was a lot of traffic

637
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: that came on that particular street that we was on,

638
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: and I would walk to the corner and wait for

639
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: every car to hit the corner and race them to

640
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: my grandmother's house to see if I can beat them

641
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: before they go on the highway, because it was it

642
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: was a ramp to go on the highway right dead

643
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: smack in front of my grandmother's house. So I know

644
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: it's a lot of traffic coming this way, so I

645
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: might as well get this running in. And I'm young man,

646
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: and my my my uncles and aunts, my grandmother, and

647
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: they all would tell me stories like baby wees just

648
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: watch you in that window, like look at this boy,

649
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: he racing every car. And the older I got, and

650
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: this is when I'm talking about from the time I

651
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 2: was able to walk and run.

652
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: As I get.

653
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: Older, I started getting my hair cut to the barber shop

654
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: around the street, and people like you that boy, I'd

655
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: be racing a car on the street.

656
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: Boy, you fast boy, you you know what I'm saying.

657
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: So I remember that's how it started.

658
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: And at that time too, my mom weren't gonna let

659
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: me play football, so I had to do something, you know.

660
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: So when I look back at those moments, man, as

661
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: a kid, I was always dreaming, Man, I'm gonna do

662
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: this one day. Man, I'm gonna do this one day. Man,

663
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: I want better life than this one day, you know

664
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And like, at the same time, you

665
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: live in your best life because you don't know no

666
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: other life, right, but you kind of have a sense

667
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 2: that there's something better, but you just you just see

668
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: other people having something better, but you really don't know,

669
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So oh, Man, as a kid,

670
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: when I as early as I can start dreaming and believing,

671
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 2: I did it. And I never never detoured from my

672
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: true beliefs and dreams. I'm always kept it strong. And

673
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: one of my homeboys just told me the stories. Like Tanner,

674
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: you know, my homeboy wasn't even playing and when we

675
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: became friends, it was off of him coming into the

676
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: weight room one day and he ain't know what he

677
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: was doing. So I told him to come work out

678
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: with me. It was a year after I had just

679
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: played my first year of varsity football, and before you

680
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: know it, he's working out with me every day and

681
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 2: he like, man, so how long you been doing this.

682
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I've played little league and now I'm

683
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: playing this. I'm like, I'm trying to get to school.

684
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: He like, get to school how. I'm like, I'm trying

685
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: to go to college off of this. He's like, you

686
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: can go to college.

687
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 3: Off of this. I'm like yeah, he like how?

688
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: And when I told him, me say, I'm going to

689
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: school too fast forward, me and him was going our

690
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: first visit together.

691
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.

692
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: So it's crazy for him or someone else to tell me, bro,

693
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: what you told.

694
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: Me about football and where it could take.

695
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: You change my whole perspective of me going to school

696
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: and wanting to play football even better because now I

697
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: can get seen and get noticed and get a scholarship.

698
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: And when he told me that, I didn't, I had

699
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: no clue.

700
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: I thought he knew already, but he said, now, everything

701
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: you told me that day was my first time knowing

702
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: that I can do that and play and actually go

703
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: to college to play. Because some people aren't come up

704
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: with you coming with then I come up with both

705
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: their parents, and I come up with all that support system.

706
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: So it's dope that that was actually a really cool

707
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: It touched me, man, because I'm sitting there like, damn,

708
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: this is the dude I've been around all my life. Practically,

709
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: I never knew that this is what got you motivated

710
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: to go to school. And he told me, say, the

711
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: first off I get, I'm gonna commit, And that was

712
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: our both for our first off we all committed. I

713
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: just ended up going to Miami on the Tras scholarship

714
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: because I just felt like it was something better.

715
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: It's crazy how things start, man, because you chasing cars.

716
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: Then it leads to one of the best careers we

717
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 1: ever seen them Bernie in goal. Now your career has

718
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: pivoted to being on camera man Amy nominated. Man, you

719
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: have multiple shows. You keep adding and adding shows the

720
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: things that you dreamed about and always knew. I gotta

721
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: imagine this part might not have been something about that.

722
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: Nah.

723
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: Look, I told myself, Man, I want to be in

724
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: Miami with my feet kicked up, with an unbrother and

725
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: my gass and an unbrother.

726
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: Over my head. You know, on somebody beach. But like

727
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: I said said before, man.

728
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 2: You look, you look at what you have kind of

729
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: brought into this world, your kids, and you're like, Okay,

730
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: I can't stop.

731
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: Working because they're expensive.

732
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: Regardless no matter how much money you got in the bank,

733
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: you got to keep keep that.

734
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: Thing rolling in.

735
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: But also, you know, like I always tell you to

736
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: tell folks, I'm on a boy opportunity and if something

737
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: is presented to me, man I tried. My heart is

738
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: not to say no to it, especially if it makes sense.

739
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: And I think when I you know, I never retired

740
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: at first initially, and so the fans was like, when

741
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna retire? They thought I was still working out

742
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: and I just happened to pop in town because I

743
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: was in.

744
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: Miami waiting on the call, and.

745
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: My agent in me was going back and forth with

746
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: just you know, teams that had called him, and deep

747
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: down the side, I'm like, man, I ain't trying to

748
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: leave Washington go play nowhere else. And I had already

749
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: talked to the GM at the time. He was telling

750
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: me like, look, man, you know, in respect for you,

751
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna allow you to go out there

752
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: and test the waters. But I'm like, at the end

753
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: of the day, I'm a free agent. I don't want

754
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: to test the water. I just want to come here.

755
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: But when he told me that, being a guy who

756
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: I am, I didn't even go against what he wanted

757
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: because I could easy say, nah, bro, just bring me

758
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 2: in and let me compete. But to me, that was

759
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: like you basically didn't give me a chance to compete.

760
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: So why I don't want to beage you for I'm

761
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: not gonna beg you for anything, you know what I mean.

762
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go make my minds or make away from myself.

763
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: And so with that process. In that process, I end

764
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: up enrolling to school to get my NBA. While I

765
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: was sitting out and I'm like, you know, the opportunity

766
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: had presented itself, my agent, like you might might want to,

767
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 2: you know, dive into this if you ever had any aspirations.

768
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: Of getting another degree.

769
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, I didn't, but I do need somewhere from

770
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: my mind to go, you know.

771
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: And that was the best thing that happened to me.

772
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: And while I was in school feel like a fish

773
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: out of water because I had been out of school

774
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: for so long. It gave me something to kind of.

775
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: I guess you can say go after again.

776
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: Like I was. I was eager to get this degree.

777
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: Now football was in the rear view, and I remember

778
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: on my agent like, hey, man, I got a call

779
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: from this person.

780
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: That person.

781
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: I say, look, I'm gonna take you like this after

782
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: eight weeks. If I ain't getting the call that I want,

783
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: I'm good. And I believe it was like the week

784
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: that I told him I'm good, we got too calls

785
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 2: and I was like, to be honest with you, man,

786
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm happy that people still see what I saw on myself,

787
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna be honest with myself. I'm not finna

788
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: go and be Santana Moss, you know, coming off the

789
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: streets like this.

790
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

791
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: I'm too old and to these years of football to

792
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: be just coming in you on your team where everybody

793
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: do play all these games and they're in top shape

794
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: to be saying I can go out here and compete now.

795
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: So I just said I'm good, and I came up here.

796
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: Then I called Dan. I said, damn, I'm just letting

797
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: you know, man, I'm gonna hang them up. I'm in

798
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: school right now, getting this NBA. But I'm gonna hang

799
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: them up, and you know, one day I gotta come

800
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: up there and I retire.

801
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. He's like, no, I want to see

802
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 3: you this weekkend.

803
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: They had just made the playoffs, I believe, and I

804
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: flew up to go to the playoff game and I

805
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: remember being around everybody. No one saw me for like

806
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: almost the whole year, and the media folks that asked

807
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: me what I was doing, They say, hey, you want

808
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: a job, you want to work? I was like, sure,

809
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: because it presented itself, right, I said, It's hard to

810
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: say no when something presented itself, whether it's something he

811
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: was looking forward to or not. And to me, I

812
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: think that was one of the best decisions of my life,

813
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: just taking advantage of an opportunity that was given.

814
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: And the rest has been history.

815
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: Man.

816
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: I think I've been growing in this.

817
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: Space for the last what eleven years now, you know

818
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: what I mean, just trying to get better and trying

819
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: to perfect it and be as be.

820
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: What I can be to the profession, you know what

821
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: I mean.

822
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: And it's dope for me because I get to see

823
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: the fruits of your labor in this business in real

824
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: time when We're walking around, whether we're in the DMV,

825
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: whether we're in Dallas, New York, Philly, and people come

826
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: up to you and they're so excited to see you,

827
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: and instead of mentioning all the things you did on

828
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: the field and accomplished, they mentioned command center. They miss

829
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: your commands in the pockets, they miss your players. Club man,

830
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: How wild is that for you? Somebody who was known

831
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: for not having no love for the media back in

832
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: the day, to being somebody that's recognized for being a

833
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: media face.

834
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: It just show you where our world is at today.

835
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 2: You know everything on our phone and so you know,

836
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: those who like podcasts, those who like anything dealing with sports,

837
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: especially the local team. And you know, we they wrap

838
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: us hard out here in Washington. I'm from Miami, and

839
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: you know we was the Hurricanes when I was playing

840
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 2: playing in college.

841
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 3: And if we wasn't good, people weren't.

842
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: Showing up, you know what I'm saying. So I understand

843
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: the difference of a sports town. You know, as much

844
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: as we want to be known for Sportstown or sports State,

845
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: aint nothing like up here.

846
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. These people are gonna rep

847
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 3: you through and through.

848
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 2: They gonna deal with the bad, but they can't wait

849
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: for the good and that's what I love about it.

850
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 2: And to know that folks get a chance to see

851
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: those shows and watch, you know, I be like, y'all

852
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: watch that, you know, I mean, honestly, I'll be shocked

853
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: because you don't think people are paying attention to that stuff,

854
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: but they do. And a lot of them want to

855
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 2: hear from the people that they watch play the game

856
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: because they like our insights.

857
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 3: They like what we have to say about it.

858
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: And that's why, you know, now it makes me, like

859
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: I said, I keep bringing back these same words. I'm

860
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: embracing that knowing that, look, man, I'm giving them something

861
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: that you know, they want to hear from me.

862
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

863
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: It's not just I'm on the show because I was

864
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: once a former Washington player.

865
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah I was, and they love to see those.

866
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: Same guys, but they also want to get that information

867
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: from those guys who once played.

868
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: You know, right between them saying white.

869
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: Lines man, and we'll get to see you on Game

870
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: Day live with me and be missed. Man. Tanner could

871
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: have took the time off, but he said he gonna

872
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: work while he's getting hotter. Then we're gonna party. Laid

873
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: that Tanner Man last thing before you go, bro, something

874
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: that stuck out to me last time we spoke, and

875
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: it's wrung in my ear for since you mentioned it

876
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: to me. Used to say, when you and Sean t

877
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: built your relationship, it built from that plane ride, those

878
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: plane rides where he would just be tap Tannement, we're

879
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: gonna talk.

880
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk.

881
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: Force you to talk, even though you didn't feel like it.

882
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: If y'all were sitting on this plane right now, brother,

883
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: and he knew what you were about to accomplish, what

884
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: you were about to be entering, something that he's entered

885
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: as well, what do you think that conversation would be

886
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: like on that plane.

887
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: He had been like, you knew this, you knew it

888
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 3: was gonna happen. You know what I mean? Like we

889
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: have a mentality and it's something.

890
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: Like I think about all the guys from you know,

891
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: South Florida, and then you can just say from guys

892
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: from the Hurricanes too.

893
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 3: Us you a guys man.

894
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 2: We put into work, you know, and our work shows

895
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: because for one, the school has always been one of

896
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: those schools that you're going to watch the guy that

897
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: come out of that school.

898
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: But not only that, it's just a.

899
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: Way about how we we approach business. And Sean would

900
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: have been probably telling me you knew it was coming.

901
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: You knew it was coming because you know, like I

902
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: said before, we understand what we're doing, We're gonna get

903
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 2: recognized for one way or another, you know what I mean.

904
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: And when it happens, like I said before, I just

905
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: embrace it and you know I'll be appreciated of it.

906
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: Hey, man, bro, we're so excited man to celebrate you,

907
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: my brother, Santana mass May. You've done so much for

908
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: us on and off the field.

909
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: Brother.

910
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: We appreciate you, and you alluded to this a little bit. Man.

911
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: Last thing, my brother, what do you want Santana Moss's

912
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: legacy to be when it's all setting down?

913
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

914
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 2: I mean when I look at it, man, I try

915
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: to search something. I try to search for something more

916
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,479
Speaker 2: than what I just told you about a guy who

917
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: did more with less.

918
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: But I think that's been me. That's been me.

919
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 2: I've been a guy all my life that almost was given,

920
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: you know, but so much to achieve some of the

921
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: things that I wanted. And the one thing I've always did,

922
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: I took. I took what you gave me and made

923
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: more out of it. That's how I can look at it.

924
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 2: And that's what it's always been about. Like I said,

925
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: even when I got into college, you know, when I

926
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: had to go through that back door of being a

927
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: walk on, I could have easily just tapped out and say, look, man,

928
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: I know I'm a hell of a football player, but

929
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: this is the card I've been dealt, So just sit

930
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 2: there and be less.

931
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: Than and who you are. I wasn't.

932
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: I was gonna get in there and say, Okay, I'm

933
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: in this dough now. Now it's time to show them

934
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: what time it is. You know what I'm saying. It's

935
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: been the same way for everything, for every other thing.

936
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: Even when I was going into college. I remember I

937
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: had an Army and recruit guy who was recruiting me

938
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: in school. I don't know why, but you know they

939
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: had those guys in school, and nothing against the Army

940
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 2: because I found a different love and respect for those

941
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: who all go out there and serve our, you know.

942
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 3: Our country.

943
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: When I went out there a couple of years ago

944
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: and kind of hopped around to different bases and saw

945
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: the Marines, the Navy, the army and what they do.

946
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 2: I realized something that it's something bigger than just going

947
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: out there and saying you're going to war, you're fighting.

948
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: It's way bigger than that man. So I have a

949
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: different love and respect for him. But when I was eighteen,

950
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 2: I wanted to play football, you know, I wanted to

951
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: go to college to play football. So I remember that

952
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: guy telling me, are you five nine?

953
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: Man?

954
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: You ain't I mean at that time was five to seven.

955
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 2: He was like, he's too short, huge. Ain't nobody gonna

956
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 2: want you men to play on it. You ain't playing

957
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: on receiver in hot I mean in college, you you

958
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: ain't d one material. And I remember listening to that

959
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 2: guy do it, and I remember the first time I started,

960
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: not even started, but the first time I got in

961
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: the game at the Universe of Miami. Unfortunately, I got

962
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: in trouble that night afterwards, But when I got back

963
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: around that school, I came home and I went looking

964
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: for that dude. I want to look him in the

965
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: eye because that's the type of guy I've always been

966
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: about it. So that's why I say, man, you know,

967
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 2: when it's all sit and done, man, just a guy

968
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: that took advantage of every opportunity.

969
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 3: To me, I think that's more that's more fitting.

970
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: I was a guy that embraced every opportunity and took

971
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: full advantage of it, making the most.

972
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: Of every opportunity man.

973
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: And as cool as.

974
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: It to see this chapter close for you, which is

975
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: the ring of fame reeel like we're right in the

976
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: middle of your book man, because it already accomplished it

977
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: so much, just so many more new chapters that you're experiencing, man,

978
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: So we appreciate you always dropping game on us. Man.

979
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: What a big week, brother, Yeah, thank you, man.

980
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate you for having a of course man command

981
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: this family, our Next Man Up, mister E to the nine.

982
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: We will all be celebrating him at halftime this Sunday

983
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: when we take on the New York Giants. Our guy,

984
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: our favorite, mister Santana Moss, my brother. Appreciate you and

985
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: congratulations on everything, brother man, this family. We hope you've

986
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode of Next Man Up. Make sure you

987
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,880
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988
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,880
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989
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,399
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990
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,959
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991
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,000
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992
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,120
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993
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,920
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994
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,120
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998
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