WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: O-Line A Lock? 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:04.600 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:06.439 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.440 Cowboys. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:15.760 This He's Talking Cowboys Straining. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.880 Live from the Dallas Cowboys World. 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.120 Course at the Star in frist. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:25.680 Joe dot TSI Continent. 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:32.160 Texdowns, and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda, 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.000 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:39.320 It's a Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:42.360 Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Firstco, Texas 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.879 in the s WBC studios. Welcome in, everybody as we 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.199 get you ready for the NFL Draft coming up in 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.479 a couple of days. We've gotten losing notes to hit 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.840 and we've got a whole lot more alongside Nick Harris, 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.720 John Machoda, I'm Kyle Yeoman's jib Jazz is in the back, 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.680 Jazmine Marshall running the board today for Chris Beam and 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.120 then Isaiah, did you know that there's no weapons allowed 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:05.640 in the building? 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:07.280 Are you? 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.679 Are you aware that you were not allowed to carry 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:10.240 on site? 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:11.760 I thought Ota started. 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:14.960 That doesn't mean you can show up on a complete list. 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:16.920 Yeah, it's warm outside. 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:18.960 There's gonna be eighty eight degrees in like one hundred 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:20.319 percent humidity today today. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:21.200 Yeah. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.120 Yeah, I'm in a hoodie and genius, so that sounds good. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:24.720 It's not as bad. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.440 You know, to talk to Alexa when you first wake up. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:30.720 When I told it, when I pulled in the parking lot, 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.959 he was out in that backfire parking lot just running 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:35.240 with one of those parachutes behind him. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.280 Oh nice, getting some work, trying to get a contract. Man, 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.760 you're on the bands with Britain Brown, like working. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.520 Through and the off season. My pocket is light. I'm 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:43.800 trying to find some way to get something. 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.240 You said, you said the Cowboys aren't making any signings. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.800 Maybe that means there's a duel sametime. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:50.720 It's been opportune. 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:52.400 Need a little window to be cracked, that's all I 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:56.120 need to get there. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Draft's not gonna 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:56.640 fill them all. 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.840 We're gonna talk about maybe filling as much of those 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.080 as possible. How was Cali? How was California? 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.880 It was a good experience, man, definitely blessed to have 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:09.000 the opportunity. There's twenty five former and current guys, mostly 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.160 current guys that were down there for the broadcast boot camp. 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:16.040 It was literally a once in a lifetime opportunity where 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:23.200 every executive in sports broadcasting was in one building, one room. 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:24.480 It was kind of crazy. 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.880 You know, we go to training camp and you know 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:28.920 you might meet somebody from a big network and you 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.360 know shake their hands like, oh that was cool, that 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.040 was so and so it's like this is literally everybody 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.240 in one room. So it was pretty awesome to be 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.960 able to have that platform get feedback, you know, work 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.360 on your craft, you know, get suggestions, get wisdom from 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.120 the literally the goats of the industry. So uh, definitely 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.440 was able to get some gain some knowledge and bring 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.120 it back here and try to continue working on the 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.239 craft and pretty dope experience. 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:52.960 Did you get tied with anybody when you're out there? 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:55.200 I talked to. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.640 Andy Dalton a lot. I talked to Chase Daniels a lot. 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:03.960 Uh Homstead, that's a good one. Yeah, Raheemo Raheem was 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:04.320 down there. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:04.640 Yep. 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.200 I saw that picture of while you guys. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:11.200 It was kind of like the picture that the owners 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.320 meetings where they have all the coaches there and so 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:14.959 like you always sit there and you're like, I'm gonna 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.400 try and name everybody picture, and I mean there's a 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.280 lot of it. 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.440 Was Cam Jordan there. 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.440 Cam was there, Okay, Yeah, he's just that. 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.360 Andy Dalton's letting the hair go out there, I know. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.280 Yeah, he looks like an AI created person. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:30.640 There's a lot of guys. 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.440 Honey Badger was there. Oh yeah, yeah, cool to chop 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:34.800 it up with him. He's a kill cat. 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.160 But a lot of current guys, a lot of current guys, 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.160 and then had some legends and worked with I saw 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.040 like guys like Chris Myers was down there, Maria Taylor 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:45.280 was down there working with us. 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.440 Chris Myers is a legend. Yeah, he doesn't get as 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.320 much love as as some of the other broadcasters in 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.200 the business, but I think he's tremendous. 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:54.680 Yeah, a lot of guys that you would have you 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.320 would have fanned out on those. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.600 Yeah, and I've got I mean throughout the years. Yeah, 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:01.200 you've got to know a bunch of those because it's 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.520 such a small world between play by play guys. But 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.320 they have no idea who I am. I just know 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.280 who they are and we've run into each other a 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.360 couple of times. But really cool. I will say, just 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.680 based off of the photos, you were the best dressed 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.040 out of anybody during your on camera segment. 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:15.560 It looked great. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.440 The pink suit was very nice. You still exactly three piece. 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:23.560 We're not talking about just any any regular day. Also, 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:25.760 you didn't look nearly as good as you do in 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.960 the Cowboys set. Just so you know, don't go anywhere 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:29.480 anytime soon. 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:30.279 I appreciate you. 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.320 We need you for pregame. J Yeah, I can't get it. 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:35.920 You can't get out of here that easy. All right, 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.479 let's get in some news and notes, Nick Harris, what's going. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:43.040 On with the Cowboys recent so voluntary workouts started yesterday 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.800 yesterday being Monday. A couple of notable emissions from workouts, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.520 Michael Parsons and Cedee Lamb, reports suggesting that Ceedee Lamb 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.960 is potentially starting a holdout for a new contract. We'll 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.240 see how that kind of comes to fruistion. I think 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.800 it's interesting you look at the landscape of receivers right now, 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.880 and this is starting to kind of be the expectation 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.240 with these fifth year guys. So justin Jefferson didn't show 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.800 up yesterday. It was just reported this morning. He's not 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.760 a fifth year guy. But Corland Sutton didn't show up 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:16.359 yesterday to the Broncos of voluntary workouts. Now keyword voluntary, obviously, 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.760 but whenever there is those reports being thrown around and 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.720 then you look at Michael Parsons and it's like, that's 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.680 not contract related. They were very adamant about that just 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.040 being what his process is, and he did the same 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.239 thing last year. Kind of takes his own training regimen. 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.160 I mean, it worked for him last year. I think 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.239 he needs to find something that can get him more 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.360 prepared for the longevity of the season, because I think 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.120 I've talked about it a few times on the show, 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.200 where he comes in those first ten games of the 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:45.320 season is firing, but he needs to find something that 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.560 kind of keeps him going through those seventeen eighteen nineteen games. 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:50.560 However many games you decided to play in a season, 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:54.480 I guess before you get burnt out, right, But I 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.240 think it'd be interesting to follow both of those as 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:58.240 time goes on. 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.280 CD will be a fascinating one. 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.160 He's due for that seventeen million dollars fifth year option 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.919 this year, but obviously worthy of a big time extension 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:08.760 that can make him the highest paid wide receiver in 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.840 the NFL. You know, justin Jefferson's in that same boat. 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.280 I think Jamark Chase is in that same boat. You 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.960 got T Higgins, who's gonna who's approaching playing on a 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:18.880 franchise tag, So there's gonna be there's gonna be a 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.240 lot of moving around with this wide receiver market. We're 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.880 finally starting to kind of see the chess game from 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.159 from the receivers and it's starting to kind of come. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:27.640 To a head there. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.640 So we'll see there's a lot of time between now 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.719 and training camp, but we'll kind of see how that, 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.680 how that, how that coincides when time goes on. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.200 So with all that being said, is there any level 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:41.159 of I guess concern whenever it comes to Ceedland because 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.560 it is the norm. This is not something that's unexpected 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.960 from four and fifth year guys going into these contract 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.480 years and the options that they get, especially if they 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:51.719 were a first round pick. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:52.599 Do you did you? 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.239 Is this something we expected moving forward? 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:59.000 Expected from CD if he didn't have a contract by now, Yeah, 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.239 for sure, But I I don't. Yeah, it's an issue 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.560 if they don't get something done. But I just don't 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.240 see a lot of gray area here. It's you know, 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.680 where he stacks up with the best receivers in the game, 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:15.160 So that contract needs to get done. I completely understand 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:20.240 him not being here, completely understand it, but that's there's 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.840 nothing that's happening that they didn't know that. Hey, if 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:24.800 we don't get a contract done with him by the time. 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.800 I mean, like I said, last week's show, Zach Martin 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:29.960 showed you if you don't show up your training camp 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.720 and you're a key piece, obviously that's a key part 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.040 of it. You're not just gonna be some guy that's 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.360 low but if you're a key piece like that, you're 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.320 gonna get your money. They're not going to go into 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.560 the season without you playing. They need you, you know, 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:45.400 So I don't I don't think fans should take this 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.480 as CD's not a good teammate or something like that. 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.120 That's not what this is. I mean, he is held 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.000 up his end of the bargain. He deserves to be 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:54.880 paid like one of the highest paid receivers in the league. 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:56.440 I completely understand where he's coming from. 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.640 Speaking of held up, do you feel like this just 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.440 because he's missing voluntary workouts? Do you think this is 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.440 headed for a holdout at some point down the line. 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.400 I mean, I know it can get there, but you 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:08.960 expect that from CD Lamb. 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.240 I do not expect that from CD Lamb. 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.800 I think if this conversation transitions into Micah at some point, 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:22.480 then yes, But CD, I don't foresee that happening. I 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.760 just think it's a very interesting conversation when it comes 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.400 to these contracts and guys holding out the year before 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:31.360 their contracts up. Do we need to change contracts? Like 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.679 if this is becoming the standard. You know, if you 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.160 got a five year contract and a year four you're like, hey, yo, 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:43.400 run me run it back, say like like this is 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:44.319 your foe or five. 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.719 I don't or you know you're five of five. I 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:48.280 don't know. 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.200 I just feel like conversations probably need to change in 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.080 regards to contracts being at this is becoming the norm. 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.320 Not saying that it's bad on his part. 0:08:56.559 --> 0:09:00.760 I just think that whatever the cowboy field his best, 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.840 and whatever CD feels his best, for equal parties, that 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:04.640 they need to do that. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.280 But I do not foresee CD holding out. 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.760 I envision that being the case for Mike at some 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:12.120 point in time, I truly do. 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.800 I could see him holding out a mandatory OTAs here. 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.080 I mean we're approaching about a month out from that. 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.839 I could see that. I could see that, but I mean, 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:21.760 if we're talking about training camp. 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.400 Talking about trade, that's what I'm about. We're talking about 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.559 Zach Martin level of holdown. 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.559 Part of me thinks he can and because that'll be 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.200 his leverage and sure, but also at the on the 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.400 same token, like you said, I think maybe you said 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.560 John he's gonna play, He's he's going to be there, 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.040 but I don't know training camp. I would kind of 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.760 go fifty fifty but mandatory OTAs I don't think he's there. 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.000 I think it's beyond fifty percent. He won't be at 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.079 training camp. I'd be surprised if he's at training camp 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:49.320 if he doesn't have a contract down. 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.600 Do you think it's possible with the current situation that 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.160 a deal is done before training camp? Yeah, early in 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.760 training camp? Yeah, absolutely, even with the current soary. 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:58.079 I mean, it could be like the Digs thing where 0:09:58.080 --> 0:09:59.960 it happens right before camp starts, you know what I mean. 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.680 You know, let's be honest. This offseason, there hasn't been 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.480 a lot to be really excited about. Jerry Jones likes 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.920 the fan base to be excited going into training camp. 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.800 I could easily see something like that being done. 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:13.160 But when you say about the. 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.600 Contract thing like about the you know, four or five 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.760 years coming after four I for me, I feel a 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:19.520 little bit differently. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.040 And I'm not saying everybod should feel this way. 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.640 Just if you're coming off of your this is your 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.360 rookie contract, this is like your real big payday. Like 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.440 I have no issue with any guys doing that. And 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:32.440 to be honest with you, I judge things so differently. 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.680 And I don't know if it's just because of covering 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.360 this team, but when you're one of that like top 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.480 you know whatever, five to ten percent, I just there's 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.320 so much more I allow, you know, there's just there's 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:44.960 so much more that I'll put up with when your 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.520 talent level is at at a certain level, just because 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:48.880 let's be honest, at the end of the day, this 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:50.880 is a business about winning football games and having the 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.280 best players. So it's where you get a trickle down 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.320 to like, you know, some people that maybe aren't in 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:57.880 that top five or ten. I think that's where you 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.760 have like a real issue. But for this particular team 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.880 with let's say, you know, like a Dak Prescott or 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.760 Cdee Lamb, I don't have any issue with a business. 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:10.360 I'm less concerned about CD's situation, and I'm more concerned 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.920 about Micah not being here this year in particular, not 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.840 from the physical standpoint, but from just the mental aspect, 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.040 especially with Zimmer coming in. I think that that's a 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.360 good point, the missed opportunities for him to build a 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.800 relationship with him, Not to say that he can't. Right 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:30.560 we're in twenty twenty four orders zoom. There's cell phones, FaceTime, 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.119 you know, whatever else, you know, other methods of communication 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.040 where they can connect, but having that in person connection 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.920 where you're building a relationship with this new play caller 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:41.959 who's going to be the one who's tasked with putting 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.280 you in position to be successful and all the intricacies 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.560 that come with what he's going to expect of you. 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.000 I think it's important for him to be around this year, 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.400 this off season just because of what's on the line. 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:55.559 Does it matter to deal with the leadership? Do you 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.280 guys care about that? That part of it? 0:11:57.440 --> 0:11:58.960 Not with him, Not with him. 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.720 I think he's a again we're not in the locker room, 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.600 but I think he's more of a lead by example 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.760 type of guy in terms of his production play on 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:07.640 the field. I play on the field, not necessarily the 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.200 other things that go on in the locker room. I 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.000 think you have d law in guys of that nature 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:15.920 for that. But I do believe that there may be 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.000 a hit that's taken by him not being here and 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.800 being present and working with Zimmer and meeting with Zimmer 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:24.959 on the regular and his new staff and everything. 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.200 That real quick off of that, what about two years 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.640 from now, let's say de Law is not here, Michael 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.400 gets the huge deal, highest paid defensive player in the game. 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:35.559 Do you think he needs to be at all this 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:36.600 stuff if that's the case. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:37.840 I think it changes in that regard. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.640 Yeah. Do you how much of the pressure is on 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.160 Mike Zimmer in this scenario to make sure that that 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:47.840 open communication is had and is met Because it takes 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.680 two to communicate, no doubt. I mean, everybody that's married 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.760 knows that one it takes two to communicate. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:54.320 You're gonna be in trouble. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:55.800 It's true. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:56.240 It's true. 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:57.120 She would agree with me. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.800 She's probably told me that in the past, and we've communicated. 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:03.560 It's been great. But the it's the way that that 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.960 that has to work out and work seamlessly going into 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.680 training camp, going into this season, because you don't really 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:14.120 have a whole lot of room for error anymore, especially 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.720 if you're Mike Zimmer. Zimmer and your number one, especially 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.760 if you're trying to stop the run, especially specially you're 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.480 Micha McCarthy. Even if you're Michael Parsons. You you can 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:23.920 have a little bit of a room for error if 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.559 you're Michael Persons. But you want that contract, You want 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.960 to be the highest paid defensive player in the NFL, 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.280 and in order to do that, he still has to 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:32.680 produce and still has to be that guy. 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.320 I am watching this situation with my eyebrow raised. I 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:40.560 really am MIKEA. Micah and Zimmer. Yeah, I am still 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.160 in the belief that I believe in Zimmer as a 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.880 productive defensive coordinator. I'm not convinced hit and as I 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.200 stand on it today like I did before before when 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.960 the hiring was going on, I'm not convinced that his 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:01.079 style is going to work with this generation of player, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:03.120 and I'm just not convinced. 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:04.320 I have been on that. 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.440 I am waiting to see and I hope that it 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:10.120 works out. I truly do big fan of obviously the Cowboys. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.600 I hope that it works out, but I have no 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.400 evidence to show that that's going to work out, and 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.439 when your best player is not present, it's really hard 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.320 to build that bond during these months, right, You don't 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.120 want to wait until August to try to figure that out. 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.160 You would like to have whatever. 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.200 Disputes and disagreements and understanding of personalities and how you 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.160 guys communicate together, figure it out prior to training camp. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.800 Trying to figure that out at that time is going 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.040 to be difficult. And again that's not to say that 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.080 there's not other forms of communication, but there is something 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:42.760 to be said. And I don't think anybody would dispute 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.960 that with being in person and being able to walk 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.440 over into somebody's office, sit down and have a conversation 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.840 with them. And I'm not sure that that's going to work. 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:52.840 And I'm sure we'll talk about some of these guys' 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:57.680 position changes and things of that nature. It sounds as 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:01.720 if we're getting to three four territory, and we talked 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:03.120 about that prior to him getting hired. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:04.400 At this roster that. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.120 He's coming into is not built for three to four 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.200 at all. And the pieces that you lost this offseason, 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.000 if you were going to enforce at three to four, 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:17.840 you lost some very important elements and instrumental guys for 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:19.280 the A three to four type system. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.320 Hankins Durrance, I mean late and if he was still healthy. 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.520 So I am again I am watching this entire situation 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.680 with my eyebrow raise, and I am curious as to 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.000 how this thing's going to pan out. This draft, this 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:32.560 the rest of this off season is going to be 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.920 very intriguing to see what happens there. 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:37.880 I think draft will probably answer your question though, as 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:39.680 far as scheme and where they could be headed there, 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.560 depending on where they value certain positions on which days 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.440 and things of that nature. When do they go get 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.640 a defensive tackle, When do they go get a linebacker? 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.520 If they do, if they go get another one, so 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.920 if they go get another corner, I think that could 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:54.720 probably tell you a little bit as well. But you 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:58.120 talked about this this generational player and Mike Simmer having 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.360 to kind of relate with that. I think whenever you 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:04.240 look at this defense, it very much resembles this generation. 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:04.720 Of player as well. 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.040 This defense specifically, it's a young defense overall. You do 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.480 have d Law, a veteran. You got Eric Kendrick who's 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.480 a veteran who will be coming in. But overall the 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.560 mentality of that defense. It's a young core, so yeah, 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.440 definitely gonna have to be able to relate with it 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.760 and be able to coach it and have that respect 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:21.960 be kind of reciprocated in the same sense. 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.080 It's funny you mentioned the NFL Draft. 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