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Speaker 3: This He's Talking Cowboys Straining.

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Speaker 4: Live from the Dallas Cowboys World.

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Speaker 2: Course at the Star in frist.

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Speaker 5: Joe dot TSI Continent.

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Speaker 1: Texdowns, and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda,

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 2: It's a Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black

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Speaker 2: Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Firstco, Texas

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Speaker 2: in the s WBC studios. Welcome in, everybody as we

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Speaker 2: get you ready for the NFL Draft coming up in

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Speaker 2: a couple of days. We've gotten losing notes to hit

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Speaker 2: and we've got a whole lot more alongside Nick Harris,

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Speaker 2: John Machoda, I'm Kyle Yeoman's jib Jazz is in the back,

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Speaker 2: Jazmine Marshall running the board today for Chris Beam and

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Speaker 2: then Isaiah, did you know that there's no weapons allowed

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Speaker 2: in the building?

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Speaker 6: Are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you aware that you were not allowed to carry

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Speaker 2: on site?

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Speaker 6: I thought Ota started.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you can show up on a complete list.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's warm outside.

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be eighty eight degrees in like one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent humidity today today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in a hoodie and genius, so that sounds good.

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Speaker 2: It's not as bad.

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Speaker 6: You know, to talk to Alexa when you first wake up.

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Speaker 7: When I told it, when I pulled in the parking lot,

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Speaker 7: he was out in that backfire parking lot just running

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Speaker 7: with one of those parachutes behind him.

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Speaker 2: Oh nice, getting some work, trying to get a contract. Man,

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Speaker 2: you're on the bands with Britain Brown, like working.

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Speaker 3: Through and the off season. My pocket is light. I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to find some way to get something.

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Speaker 2: You said, you said the Cowboys aren't making any signings.

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Speaker 6: Maybe that means there's a duel sametime.

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Speaker 2: It's been opportune.

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Speaker 6: Need a little window to be cracked, that's all I

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Speaker 6: need to get there. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Draft's not gonna

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Speaker 6: fill them all.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about maybe filling as much of those

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Speaker 2: as possible. How was Cali? How was California?

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Speaker 3: It was a good experience, man, definitely blessed to have

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Speaker 3: the opportunity. There's twenty five former and current guys, mostly

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Speaker 3: current guys that were down there for the broadcast boot camp.

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Speaker 3: It was literally a once in a lifetime opportunity where

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Speaker 3: every executive in sports broadcasting was in one building, one room.

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Speaker 6: It was kind of crazy.

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Speaker 3: You know, we go to training camp and you know

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Speaker 3: you might meet somebody from a big network and you

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Speaker 3: know shake their hands like, oh that was cool, that

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Speaker 3: was so and so it's like this is literally everybody

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Speaker 3: in one room. So it was pretty awesome to be

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Speaker 3: able to have that platform get feedback, you know, work

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Speaker 3: on your craft, you know, get suggestions, get wisdom from

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Speaker 3: the literally the goats of the industry. So uh, definitely

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Speaker 3: was able to get some gain some knowledge and bring

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Speaker 8: Did you get tied with anybody when you're out there?

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Speaker 6: I talked to.

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Speaker 3: Andy Dalton a lot. I talked to Chase Daniels a lot.

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Speaker 3: Uh Homstead, that's a good one. Yeah, Raheemo Raheem was

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 9: I saw that picture of while you guys.

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Speaker 7: It was kind of like the picture that the owners

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Speaker 7: meetings where they have all the coaches there and so

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Speaker 7: like you always sit there and you're like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: try and name everybody picture, and I mean there's a

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Speaker 9: Was Cam Jordan there.

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Speaker 6: Cam was there, Okay, Yeah, he's just that.

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Speaker 9: Andy Dalton's letting the hair go out there, I know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he looks like an AI created person.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys.

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Speaker 6: Honey Badger was there. Oh yeah, yeah, cool to chop

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Speaker 6: it up with him. He's a kill cat.

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Speaker 3: But a lot of current guys, a lot of current guys,

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Speaker 2: Chris Myers is a legend. Yeah, he doesn't get as

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Speaker 2: much love as as some of the other broadcasters in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of guys that you would have you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've got I mean throughout the years. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they have no idea who I am. I just know

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Speaker 2: couple of times. But really cool. I will say, just

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Speaker 2: based off of the photos, you were the best dressed

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Speaker 6: It looked great.

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Speaker 2: The pink suit was very nice. You still exactly three piece.

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about just any any regular day. Also,

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Speaker 2: you didn't look nearly as good as you do in

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys set. Just so you know, don't go anywhere

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Speaker 2: anytime soon.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: We need you for pregame. J Yeah, I can't get it.

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Speaker 2: You can't get out of here that easy. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's get in some news and notes, Nick Harris, what's going.

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Speaker 10: On with the Cowboys recent so voluntary workouts started yesterday

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Speaker 10: yesterday being Monday. A couple of notable emissions from workouts,

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Speaker 10: Michael Parsons and Cedee Lamb, reports suggesting that Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 10: see how that kind of comes to fruistion. I think

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Speaker 10: it's interesting you look at the landscape of receivers right now,

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Speaker 10: yesterday to the Broncos of voluntary workouts. Now keyword voluntary, obviously,

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Speaker 10: but whenever there is those reports being thrown around and

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Speaker 10: then you look at Michael Parsons and it's like, that's

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Speaker 10: not contract related. They were very adamant about that just

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Speaker 10: However many games you decided to play in a season,

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Speaker 8: CD will be a fascinating one.

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Speaker 10: He's due for that seventeen million dollars fifth year option

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Speaker 10: this year, but obviously worthy of a big time extension

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Speaker 10: that can make him the highest paid wide receiver in

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Speaker 10: the NFL. You know, justin Jefferson's in that same boat.

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Speaker 10: got T Higgins, who's gonna who's approaching playing on a

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Speaker 10: lot of moving around with this wide receiver market. We're

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Speaker 8: To a head there.

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Speaker 10: So we'll see there's a lot of time between now

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Speaker 2: So with all that being said, is there any level

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Speaker 2: of I guess concern whenever it comes to Ceedland because

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Speaker 2: it is the norm. This is not something that's unexpected

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Speaker 6: Do you did you?

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Speaker 2: Is this something we expected moving forward?

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Speaker 7: Expected from CD if he didn't have a contract by now, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: for sure, But I I don't. Yeah, it's an issue

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Speaker 7: if they don't get something done. But I just don't

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Speaker 7: see a lot of gray area here. It's you know,

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Speaker 7: So that contract needs to get done. I completely understand

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Speaker 7: him not being here, completely understand it, but that's there's

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Speaker 7: nothing that's happening that they didn't know that. Hey, if

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Speaker 7: I mean, like I said, last week's show, Zach Martin

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Speaker 7: and you're a key piece, obviously that's a key part

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Speaker 7: gonna get your money. They're not going to go into

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Speaker 7: the season without you playing. They need you, you know,

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Speaker 7: So I don't I don't think fans should take this

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Speaker 7: That's not what this is. I mean, he is held

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Speaker 7: I completely understand where he's coming from.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of held up, do you feel like this just

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know it can get there, but you

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Speaker 2: expect that from CD Lamb.

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Speaker 6: I do not expect that from CD Lamb.

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Speaker 3: I think if this conversation transitions into Micah at some point,

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Speaker 3: just think it's a very interesting conversation when it comes

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Speaker 3: their contracts up. Do we need to change contracts? Like

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Speaker 3: if this is becoming the standard. You know, if you

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Speaker 3: got a five year contract and a year four you're like, hey, yo,

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Speaker 3: run me run it back, say like like this is

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Speaker 6: I don't or you know you're five of five. I

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Speaker 3: I just feel like conversations probably need to change in

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Speaker 3: regards to contracts being at this is becoming the norm.

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Speaker 6: Not saying that it's bad on his part.

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Speaker 3: I just think that whatever the cowboy field his best,

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Speaker 3: and whatever CD feels his best, for equal parties, that

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Speaker 3: they need to do that.

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Speaker 6: But I do not foresee CD holding out.

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Speaker 3: I envision that being the case for Mike at some

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Speaker 3: point in time, I truly do.

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Speaker 10: I could see him holding out a mandatory OTAs here.

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Speaker 10: I mean we're approaching about a month out from that.

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Speaker 10: I could see that. I could see that, but I mean,

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Speaker 10: if we're talking about training camp.

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Speaker 2: Talking about trade, that's what I'm about. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: Zach Martin level of holdown.

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Speaker 10: Part of me thinks he can and because that'll be

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Speaker 10: his leverage and sure, but also at the on the

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Speaker 10: same token, like you said, I think maybe you said

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Speaker 10: John he's gonna play, He's he's going to be there,

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Speaker 10: but I don't know training camp. I would kind of

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Speaker 10: go fifty fifty but mandatory OTAs I don't think he's there.

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Speaker 7: I think it's beyond fifty percent. He won't be at

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Speaker 6: It's true.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned the NFL Draft. It's funny you

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Speaker 2: Bring just a box in here and see would you eat?

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Speaker 6: Is a RGG or what would be a rt E?

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Speaker 6: What are you talking about?

446
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Speaker 8: I don't even know what you reference?

447
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Speaker 3: So like drinks, Like if you have like a energy drink, right,

448
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Speaker 3: it's RTD so ready to drink?

449
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Speaker 6: Oh ready?

450
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got to RTG is a ready to

451
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Speaker 3: go you know? Or you know RTE ready to eat?

452
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Speaker 3: I mean, how would you categorize that?

453
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Speaker 2: Woud be an art?

454
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Speaker 9: It's so what did you eat?

455
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Speaker 2: John's more of an LTE guy I.

456
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Speaker 6: Have this morning? I had a banana.

457
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Speaker 9: I'm ann e b never eat breakfast.

458
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Speaker 3: Had a protein shake. I haven't had my fair share

459
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Speaker 3: of breakfast today.

460
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Speaker 9: Like what are we talking about?

461
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Speaker 7: Like you wake up in the morning, first meal? Like

462
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Speaker 7: what are we talking How many calories do you think

463
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Speaker 7: you're putting back?

464
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Speaker 3: I don't count calories anymore, but usually it's like, for

465
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Speaker 3: like my five am, I think this man is counting galaries,

466
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Speaker 3: Like today's just seeing what's what's on the shoulder here?

467
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Speaker 3: Today's my five am day where I have to be

468
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Speaker 3: at work at five, So usually I get grab an apple,

469
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Speaker 3: want to go. I drink like thirty two ounces of

470
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Speaker 3: water within the first hour, hopefully, and then I get

471
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Speaker 3: I get a shake in. That's usually like my first

472
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Speaker 3: couple of hours, and then I try to find some food.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a couple of five ams coming coming

474
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Speaker 2: my way pretty quickly.

475
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Speaker 6: You have a lot more than five ams.

476
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly? Two five thirty three. All right, let's talk

477
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Speaker 2: about the NFL drafty seriously? Three thirty three?

478
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Speaker 6: Uh?

479
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Speaker 2: Is the offensive line position an absolute lock for first

480
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Speaker 2: pick of the NFL draft? I hope so for your

481
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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. We haven't talked a lot of draft, but

482
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Speaker 2: what we have talked about on this show is offensive line.

483
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Speaker 2: That is, then you know number one concern early and

484
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Speaker 2: often has that shifted at all for anybody?

485
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Speaker 10: No, I don't believe. So is it a lot? I

486
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Speaker 10: would say it's probably eighty percent in my opinion. I

487
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Speaker 10: think a scenario that you could see at not be

488
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 10: offensive line is if you know a lot of those

489
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Speaker 10: names come off the board quick, those top offensive line names,

490
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Speaker 10: and they decide to trade back, and whenever they trade back,

491
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Speaker 10: they lose even more names. Off that board and they

492
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Speaker 10: end up falling off defensive tackle or a linebacker or

493
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Speaker 10: something like that. But I think there's probably an eighty

494
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Speaker 10: percent chance they go ahead and grab an offensive lineman.

495
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Speaker 10: I think the question that I'd kind of like to

496
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Speaker 10: post to the table is if you could place one

497
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Speaker 10: guy on this offensive line who could be a Day

498
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Speaker 10: one starter, maybe not Tyler Smith production, but in that

499
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Speaker 10: same raiment, in that same.

500
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Speaker 8: Stratosphere, would you rather have that a tackle, guarter?

501
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Speaker 2: Center? Mmmm?

502
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Speaker 6: That's a tough one. So like from the draft, yeah, just.

503
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Speaker 10: From a first trumpet or yeah, draft in general, I

504
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Speaker 10: mean specifically for a trump pick, but draft in general.

505
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you would expect it to be a first

506
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Speaker 2: round pick for immediate production. But you're talking about what

507
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Speaker 2: Tyler did in his rookie season.

508
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Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe not to that extent, but because.

509
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Speaker 2: I think expecting any first round pick to be an

510
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Speaker 2: all pro? Right right? Asking for a lot? Is it possible? Absolutely?

511
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Speaker 8: This franchise is known to do it quite a bit,

512
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Speaker 8: very good at it.

513
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Speaker 9: You guys think it's close.

514
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm thinking left tackle, but center is

515
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Speaker 2: a problem. See, but center is still a problem.

516
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Speaker 9: Is recycle four years?

517
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Speaker 7: If they have to if you get a left tackle

518
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Speaker 7: like the Tyler's are thinking, you got that guy for

519
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Speaker 7: like ten to fifteen years. I think them one of

520
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Speaker 7: the top probably three most important positions.

521
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Speaker 2: I agree with you, I think it's left tackle because

522
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Speaker 2: that's a top three or four position in the NFL.

523
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Speaker 2: But the amount of conversations that we've had on this show,

524
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Speaker 2: specifically that is centered around the offensive line, has been

525
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Speaker 2: more focused on the inadequacies at center than it was

526
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Speaker 2: at a left tackle. Now, part of that is because

527
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Speaker 2: there was Tyron Smith and he stayed healthy for at

528
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Speaker 2: least the majority of the twenty twenty three season, But

529
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Speaker 2: even when he went out and back and forth, I

530
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Speaker 2: still think we were talking about center. And also you

531
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Speaker 2: still talking about wanting a long early center.

532
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Speaker 7: What's the longest tenured center that they've hadais for four years?

533
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Speaker 9: How long was Frederick three? Four years?

534
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Speaker 8: Yeah?

535
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you.

536
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Speaker 9: Go with Andre Gerard.

537
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Speaker 7: I mean, I mean seriously, like I'm trying to think

538
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Speaker 7: the last time they've had like a center.

539
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Speaker 8: Yeah dreams here for a minute, interviewing him tomorrow.

540
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, quick, quick flex.

541
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting for.

542
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Speaker 10: A deep blue nice But I think you also to

543
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Speaker 10: that same point, you could have the left tackle in

544
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Speaker 10: the building already. I mean, I am team Tyler Smith

545
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Speaker 10: left guard. Yeah, but I mean I think I think

546
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Speaker 10: there is a realistic argument to be made that he

547
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Speaker 10: could be that left tackle for the long term.

548
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Speaker 8: You know.

549
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Speaker 7: Oh, I even think there's no usually made as much

550
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Speaker 7: as people aren't gonna want to hear this, but I

551
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Speaker 7: wouldn't be surprised if at right the correct the left

552
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Speaker 7: tackle they really want isn't there and they end up

553
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Speaker 7: moving Tyler Smith out to left tackle for a year

554
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Speaker 7: and next year if depending on where their das, then

555
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Speaker 7: they take the like I don't even if they, let's say,

556
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Speaker 7: like this season upcoming Tyler Smith is their left tackle,

557
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Speaker 7: that doesn't mean that I think that, oh well, no,

558
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Speaker 7: that's just for he'll be.

559
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

560
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Speaker 7: I mean, when we were at the combine and Steven

561
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Speaker 7: said the thing about the comp to Larry Allen, That's

562
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Speaker 7: one of the first things I thought about is I'm like, oh,

563
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Speaker 7: that I could see them doing that for a year

564
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Speaker 7: where they put them back out there because the right

565
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Speaker 7: player that they like didn't fall to him. Saying I'm

566
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Speaker 7: not saying that isn't going to be their goal. I'm

567
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Speaker 7: saying that being their fallback plan.

568
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Speaker 10: So they circle back on Calvin Banks next year. That's

569
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Speaker 10: a good one, oh man, that would be fun.

570
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Speaker 2: Would high enough for that? No? Hopefully not, probably not.

571
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Speaker 8: Hopefully we're not high enough.

572
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Speaker 7: The original question you said though about the position, and

573
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Speaker 7: you mentioned defensive tackle.

574
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Speaker 9: So I thought about this.

575
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Speaker 7: I feel like myself and a lot of people that

576
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Speaker 7: follow this team probably lean towards the offensive line because

577
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Speaker 7: there's been this success draftnes offensive lineman. You are confident

578
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Speaker 7: when they take one in the first round. If you

579
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Speaker 7: had that same confidence though about defensive tackle, let's just

580
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Speaker 7: say just throw out Byron Murphy just for suple, Okay,

581
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Speaker 7: if you knew he was going to be the man like,

582
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Speaker 7: oh no, this is going to be one of these

583
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Speaker 7: like top defense tackles in the league for like ten

584
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Speaker 7: years or something. You could talk me into that being

585
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Speaker 7: the pick, no, no question, just but we haven't seen

586
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Speaker 7: them use a high pick on a defensive tackle that's

587
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Speaker 7: been that guy, And so you're kind of like, yeah,

588
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 7: I don't know if that's the direction you go, But

589
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Speaker 7: if you told me that the left tackle is gonna

590
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Speaker 7: be really good, the defensive tackles can be really good.

591
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 7: I'll be like, oh, no, give me the defensive tackle.

592
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 7: I know they can find that left tackle. Just it's

593
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 7: been a long time, Like you talk about the center,

594
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Speaker 7: going all the way back to Andrew Girard. Yeah, when's

595
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 7: Les Saime, they've been a defensive tackle. You're like, no, no, no,

596
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Speaker 7: that guy's gonna be here for like, you know, ten years,

597
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 7: Like this is this is the guy that.

598
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Speaker 2: Hasn't been there for ever. I mean it's been a

599
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Speaker 2: long long.

600
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Speaker 7: Time since his Murphy or anybody in this draft on

601
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Speaker 7: that level. Do you think or could be on that level?

602
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Speaker 8: I think defensive tackle position specifically.

603
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Speaker 10: And then the thing about Murphy is he's a true

604
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Speaker 10: three tech and the other first round defensive tackle is

605
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Speaker 10: also a three tech, jers On Newton out of Illinois.

606
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Speaker 10: So it's like, yeah, you could draft him, but how

607
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 10: are you gonna get him on the field? Do you

608
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Speaker 10: want him to play at one tech at two hundred

609
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Speaker 10: ninety pounds, Like, I don't know, it'd be it'd be

610
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Speaker 10: tough to sell.

611
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Speaker 3: But I would find somebody big because based upon what

612
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Speaker 3: we're hearing in terms of this scheme, possible scheme was Zimmer.

613
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Speaker 6: You don't have that guy on your roster.

614
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 8: You don't have the beef at all at all. You

615
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 8: might need to get two of them in the draft.

616
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Speaker 6: You need too.

617
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: You also need two offensive linemen, and you also need

618
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: a running back, and you also need a receiver.

619
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's rank those.

620
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Speaker 8: Tier one needs. Let's rank these tier one.

621
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Speaker 3: And a dB okay, and a like oh, a couple

622
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Speaker 3: of linebacker, a couple line you don't have enough draft picks.

623
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Speaker 2: Trade down anyways. The linebacker, offensive tackle, interior offensive line,

624
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Speaker 2: defensive tackle, and running back. Those are five spots of need.

625
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 8: I counted six.

626
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Speaker 2: Sorry, linebacker, offensive tackle, interior offensive line, defensive tackle, running.

627
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Speaker 8: Okay, gotcha. Yeah I didn't put wide.

628
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Speaker 2: Receiver or anything like that. Yeah, rank those five needs.

629
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Speaker 2: If you want to throw in a wild card, you

630
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Speaker 2: can't but rank the needs one through five for the

631
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Speaker 2: Cowboys right now, right now, line.

632
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Speaker 7: D he had he had offen. Interior offensive line is

633
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 7: two different, two different ones.

634
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Speaker 3: So so give me a give me an old tackle, okay, okay,

635
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: if it's there. Those are interchangeable, right based upon the

636
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: scenario you just present it. Give me a left tackle, okay,

637
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: give me a d tackle as give me a running

638
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: back give me a linebacker, give me another.

639
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 2: Linecker, just the bodies there.

640
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was especially if you're especially this is with

641
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Speaker 3: my mindset of what I'm hearing in terms of guys

642
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Speaker 3: going back to the original positions and things of that nature,

643
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Speaker 3: and the word that Mike has been told that he's

644
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: going to be a stand up deal.

645
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Speaker 6: That's three four. Yeah, that's three four.

646
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: That is okay.

647
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 6: If you're running a three four, you need eight linebackers

648
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Speaker 6: on your roster.

649
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: And how many do you have?

650
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Speaker 14: You have two, you have three? Maybe four, you have three,

651
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 14: you have three o O. Eric Kendricks, you got three?

652
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Speaker 14: At least?

653
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Speaker 7: How many things fifty three I'm talking true traditional the

654
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Speaker 7: ball linebackers.

655
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Speaker 9: How many think will be in the fifty three.

656
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Speaker 6: To five six five or six six you have to

657
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Speaker 6: have you have to have six.

658
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 7: You don't think you can get one of those guys

659
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 7: at least and undrafted rickey free agents you.

660
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 6: Very well may, you very well may. But I'm just

661
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 6: saying that you have if you're running a three four scheme.

662
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Speaker 3: Coupled with the changes in special teams on kickoff, right,

663
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 3: you're gonna use a lot of linebackers.

664
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Speaker 9: To talk about getting bigger at linebacker too special.

665
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 6: You have to, Yeah, you have to.

666
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 3: You're running a three four. You have three linemen spread

667
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: across five offensive linemen. Yeah, linemen are getting up to linebackers. Now,

668
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: if that's going to be the scheme, the primary scheme,

669
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: not saying that's all they're going to run. If you're

670
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: primarily running a three four defense, offensive guards are uncovered,

671
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: they are working up. They're gonna chip on the on

672
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: the nose tackle, and they're working up to your linebackers

673
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: b two hundred and thirty five pounds.

674
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: If you want to, they're chipping you.

675
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, you go lift you like a forklift.

676
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: If if they're running a three four is Mike could

677
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: considered it a linebacker.

678
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 6: He's a stand up he's a stand up outside linebark.

679
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: So he would he be a part of your eight

680
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: is what I'm asking.

681
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 6: Yes, So he would be.

682
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: He would be.

683
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: He would be classified as a linebacker who loved that

684
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: conversation for negotiations, he would hate that.

685
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: Uh, Kendricks, Clark Parsons over shown. Hopefully there's four and

686
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,239
Speaker 2: then I mean outside of that, you've got like a

687
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: mixture of guys You've got I can't believe Marquise Belt.

688
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: You've got tyres We you's got Buddy Johnson too, Smallnessiliami Forjoco,

689
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: He's a big, big body.

690
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 6: He's a stand up he could be there. He's a

691
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 6: stand up man. He played it at San Jose State,

692
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 6: outside linebacker.

693
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 8: San Jose, San Jose.

694
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm thinking I'm mixing them in San Diego State, the

695
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: yellow and Blue San Jose. Yeah, Spartans.

696
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so those are those are outside linebackers, but typically

697
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: outside linebackers like do you wear was an outside linebacker.

698
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 6: Just to put that in context. Okay, when he first tired,

699
00:29:54,080 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 6: he was that stand up defensive and AKA outside linebacker. Hmmm,

700
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 6: I'm worried. I'm just being honest. I'm being straight. I'm

701
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 6: being straight. No chaser. If that is going to be

702
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 6: the primary system, I am concerned.

703
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: I'm really and.

704
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: I'm concerned about how Zimmer's going to affect his draft.

705
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: What kind of pressure is he going to apply in

706
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: that room, in the war room when these names start

707
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: popping off the board.

708
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 7: The only thing I'll say about that is we have

709
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 7: not seen this team draft. When Mike McCarthy is in

710
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 7: the final year of his contract and he knows that

711
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 7: he needs help on this offense. So while I agree

712
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 7: with you on that, I think anybody listening is don't

713
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 7: think that that means that they're just going to be Hey,

714
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 7: Zimmer's a new DC, Let's give him everything that he

715
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 7: wants because they I think we're not the only ones

716
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 7: that understand that they need offensive line help badly and

717
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 7: that you're probably not going to find that outside of

718
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 7: the first two days in terms of media to.

719
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: Help, you know. And it's interesting to think about that

720
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: element to it as well. Well. The way that the

721
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: hierarchy works. I mean, it's always been front office first,

722
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: and I'm putting the scouting department and Will McLay in

723
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: that front office category. Then you've got Mike McCarthy, who

724
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: does have an impact on who they take. He does

725
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: have a decision in that room, maybe not the final decision,

726
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: but a big contributing factor to that decision. Then you've

727
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: had Dan Quinn who's also had a legitimate amount of

728
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: opinion and input into that decision as well. Will Zimmer

729
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: have that same level of input and will Mike McCarthy

730
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: have that same level of input because he's saying the

731
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: same thing, I need to win now, I need to

732
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: draft guys that are NFL ready now because I've got

733
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: one year left on my contract and I want to

734
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: win as much as possible even with the current cap situation.

735
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: But when you're in the front office and you're looking

736
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: at it as a long term deal, how much are

737
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: they going to push away from that one year mindset

738
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: and say we need to pick guys that are gonna

739
00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: be good for the long term.

740
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 7: Offense was just loaded and a bunch of guys are

741
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 7: under contracts. I can see where you're coming from where

742
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 7: they might be like, do it. I mean, we obviously

743
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 7: we can handle another offensive weapon, but do we really

744
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 7: need one. There's no way that anybody, let's say there's

745
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 7: coaching staff's completely removed and it just just the scouting staff,

746
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 7: front office.

747
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 9: There's no way you look at that offensive line and go, no, no,

748
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 9: we can.

749
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 7: Just kind of patch this together with some duct tape

750
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 7: in WD forty Like now, that's not happening.

751
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 9: They know that they need good point. You know some

752
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 9: out there.

753
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 7: I don't want to get too far off track, but

754
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 7: just because you said this, I have to ask you

755
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 7: if somebody came to you and they were like, the

756
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 7: roster's been completely clear, the coaching staff, everything's gone all

757
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 7: we're doing number one thing, We're building around Michaeh Parsons.

758
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 7: What do you think is the best defense for him?

759
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 7: Because you're the way you're talking about the three four.

760
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 7: While it might not be fitting this personnel, to me,

761
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 7: I'm the type of person of I need my best

762
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 7: players in the best position to have success, and to me,

763
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 7: Michah Parsons isn't going anywhere. So for you take everything

764
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 7: out of it, forget the coaching staff, last year contract,

765
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 7: everybody else that's on the team, what they have right now,

766
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 7: it's just Michaeh Parsons is the only person and you're

767
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 7: in charge of this entire organization. Where what's the best

768
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 7: way to utilize Michael Parsons. So, to like his point,

769
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 7: you have him still playing his best later in the

770
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 7: years and wrecking games at the highest level he possibly

771
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 7: can do that.

772
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 6: It's a good question. I believe that.

773
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to say that the four to three

774
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: and the three four are equal for him in terms

775
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: of opportunity. The thing is, you want to get him

776
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: isolated as much as possible. If you put Micah in

777
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: a three four where he's standing up and coming off

778
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: the edge. Yes, he has great matchups in terms of

779
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: his ability to have those one on ones, but also

780
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: there's a huge opportunity for them just to go to

781
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: the opposite direction to run the ball right.

782
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 6: So like having him in a four to three, you you.

783
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: Would like to discourage them from running the rock right,

784
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: and you have more guys to take up more blockers,

785
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: they can't double team you as much.

786
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 6: So I like, I.

787
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: Personally like the four to three better for Micah, especially

788
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: with the personnel that is currently on the roster. But

789
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: I get your point in terms of having him standing

790
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: up on the edge versus guys, But you could fan

791
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 3: all you're gonna get as a fan call and a

792
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 3: garden Attackle are going to turn and turn and go

793
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: out to him, and the center is gonna turn to

794
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: that to that defensive end that they have Supposedly, is it.

795
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: Really such thing as a true four to three and

796
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: a true three four anymore in the NFL? I mean,

797
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 2: I feel like every team runs a variable very much defense,

798
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: a variable front that that ends up being multiple. But

799
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: if if I'm saying the same thing, I'm saying the

800
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: same thing as you as if there was a you're

801
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: running four three or three four. I would rather have

802
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: him as a four three because I think it benefits

803
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: him and the other guys around him a little more.

804
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: And you can hide him in a lot of that too.

805
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 7: Four to three staying on one edge or four to

806
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 7: three like he's venues moving around back.

807
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 6: And forth, three both. Yeah.

808
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: I don't think if you're trying to utilize Micah in

809
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: the right way, you're not gonna keep him in one spot. Like,

810
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: that's just not how it works. He there are guys

811
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: in the NFL where it works for them. I mean

812
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 2: you think about guys like Bosas or TJ. Wide and

813
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: how those guys work. They can work off of one

814
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, one singular side and have success regardless. Micah's

815
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: strength comes from his versatility.

816
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 7: Do you think that that's had any impact on maybe

817
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 7: a little later in the season.

818
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think exactly.

819
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 8: I think so.

820
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 10: Like I don't want to say burnt out because that

821
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 10: was a key word towards the end of the season,

822
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 10: but that's kind of what it looked like. You saw

823
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 10: him get completely wiped out of games slate in the season.

824
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 8: Green Bay is a perfect example.

825
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 10: I think it really started to turn around the Seattle game.

826
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 10: I think that's kind of when you started a good game,

827
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 10: you kind of, yeah, it was. It's kind of when

828
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 10: you quit noticing his impact on a quarter to quarter basis,

829
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 10: because there's always one two plays every quarter where he's

830
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 10: either getting in on the action or he's getting a sack,

831
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 10: and that's when you started to see that kind of

832
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 10: decline from there. Seattle game was kind of when it

833
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 10: started to get noticeable. So maybe a couple weeks before that,

834
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 10: maybe a week or so after that, give or take.

835
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 8: But I think that very well could because.

836
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 10: You have him lining up in different directions, you have

837
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 10: him going up against different body types, you have him

838
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 10: taking on different kind of loads every week.

839
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 8: I think that definitely plays a part in it.

840
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 14: It.

841
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 10: Conditioning is going to be a huge factor going into

842
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 10: this offseason for him, but also he did a lot

843
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 10: of boxing work last offseason. He's got to do even

844
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 10: more because at the end of the day, he is

845
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 10: a smaller pass rusher and he's going to have to

846
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 10: take on bigger guys. He's always going to rely on

847
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 10: his athleticism, But what happens when you can't rely on

848
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 10: your athleticism, what are you going to do, and I

849
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 10: haven't seen that kind of click for him yet in

850
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 10: his three years now, so I need to see a

851
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 10: little bit more of an element from him whenever someone

852
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 10: can line up with him athletically like a Jordan Milatta

853
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 10: has been able to do a couple of times, or

854
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 10: you know, various left tackles as well.

855
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 6: I like it.

856
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: There's a lot of conversations that go into the draft

857
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: pick in general, and I think all of these conversations

858
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: are being had across the hall because it's not just

859
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: a luck that it's an offensive lineman.

860
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 6: Early.

861
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: If let's say one of these top edge rushers is

862
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: there and they're sitting at twenty four, maybe you have

863
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: a conversation because you don't know what you have on

864
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the football right now, top defensive tackle,

865
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 2: same thing, you don't know what you have. I think

866
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: if I'm you said eighty percent, I think it's even more.

867
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 2: I think i'd say like eighty five to ninety percent

868
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: it's going to be an offensive tackle or an offensive lineman.

869
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: I'm just hatching, Yeah, you kind of have to use

870
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: There's no such thing as a one hundred percent, No

871
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: such thing as a one hundred changes draft. Yes, so

872
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: keep that in mind, all right. When we come back,

873
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: let's talk about some of the not so much needs.

874
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: There's not a whole lot of them. I feel like

875
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: you could probably address any position on this roster when

876
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,520
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877
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Speaker 2: of draft prospects, specifically more so about the needs and

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Speaker 2: hot topic question, when would be the earliest you could

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Speaker 2: see Dallas taking a.

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Speaker 9: Quarterback twenty four. I'd be surprised if they take on

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Speaker 9: it all at all.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would too.

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Speaker 10: I think this is a situation that if Michael Pratt

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Speaker 10: from Tulane slips to like the fifth round, or a

959
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Speaker 10: Jordan Travis slips to the skiffs. Yeah, you would say

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Speaker 10: you would love that, and then that's probably where you uh,

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Speaker 10: that's probably where you think about it.

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Speaker 8: But you don't need a quarterback in this draft. You

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Speaker 8: need a lot of other things.

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Speaker 10: I think quarterbacks, quarterback, tight end, in safety you don't

965
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Speaker 10: need to address in this draft.

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Speaker 8: And some people give me hell over safety.

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Speaker 10: I do not think you need to draft a safety

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Speaker 10: in this Okay, those are the three positions that you're

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Speaker 10: safe with.

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Speaker 2: Everything else, everything else is on the table. You can

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Speaker 2: make an argument for Okay, what about tight end? Why

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Speaker 2: do you think tight end is no longer a.

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Speaker 10: I mean, you spent the second round pick on it

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Speaker 10: last year. Jake Ferguson exceeded expectations last year. You got

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Speaker 10: John Stevens Junior coming back, you got Peyton Hendershot coming back.

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Speaker 10: I mean, you're gonna have competition in that room. Maybe

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Speaker 10: you go get a guy in the undrafted pool just

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Speaker 10: kind of throw in in that mix and kind of

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Speaker 10: beef up the competition in that room, similar to what

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Speaker 10: John Stevens Junior did last year. But I mean, you

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Speaker 10: have four guys that were capable of making a fifty

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Speaker 10: three man roster last year coming back next season, and

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Speaker 10: when you look at all the needs on the offensive

984
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Speaker 10: and defense side of the ball, you don't need to

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Speaker 10: tie in.

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Speaker 7: I mean, they found Peyton Hender, shot, mcewne was serviceable,

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Speaker 7: John Stevens.

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Speaker 9: These guys are all undrafted guys. If they needed another

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Speaker 9: guy in.

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Speaker 7: The room, that makes sense, and I would be more

991
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Speaker 7: open to a lot of those things. But as you mentioned,

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Speaker 7: they just don't have the number of picks and the

993
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Speaker 7: holes that they have in other spots.

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Speaker 9: Just they're just so much greater.

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Speaker 7: And fullback you don't need a dress oh obviously obviously, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Why is that? Nick oh Man?

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Speaker 8: Just I think you got the best fullback in the

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Speaker 8: NFL and the team, you know, see.

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Speaker 2: The only fullback in the NFL.

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Speaker 8: There's still there's Baltimore go to.

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Speaker 2: Cheek guys, tongue in cheating. Yeah, but yeah, Kyle check,

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Speaker 2: I know, I get it. The big guy Baltimore four

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Speaker 2: zero who likes to fumble at the goal line.

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Speaker 6: Five and fifty five pounds in their backfield.

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Speaker 7: Now, I do think Lipkey is going to be more

1006
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Speaker 7: more of a factor this year than he was, Like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think so, Yeah, of course you think so. We

1008
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Speaker 2: can't take anything I say.

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Speaker 8: That I'm biased, Like, let me take my lippy hat

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Speaker 8: off for a minute.

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Speaker 7: I think I'm just saying, like off season conversations I've

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Speaker 7: had with people that are in positions to know these

1013
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Speaker 7: things will tell you that I think Lipky will have more,

1014
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Speaker 7: and I think Cabante Turpin as a receiver will have more.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about it before that this team is so

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Speaker 2: good at snagging the post draft process and taking advantage

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Speaker 2: of that. I mean, DJ bass I had a fourth

1018
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Speaker 2: round grade on the guy last year and they got

1019
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Speaker 2: him undrafted. He could possibly be your rotational starter on

1020
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Speaker 2: the interior, depending on what happens. Like really, truly it

1021
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Speaker 2: could happen. Uh. Then you've got Hunter. I had a

1022
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Speaker 2: fifth round grade on him last year and he could

1023
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Speaker 2: be a significant piece of your offense. John Stevens Junior

1024
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Speaker 2: what he's brought to the table as well. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they have that. But with all that being said, and

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Speaker 2: maybe the possibilities of those positions notwithstanding, is it more

1027
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Speaker 2: likely to see a trade back scenario this year than

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Speaker 2: in recent memory?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: I think so too.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you look at missing the fourth round pick, you

1032
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Speaker 8: look at needing.

1033
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Speaker 2: Which, by the way, if you want to talk about

1034
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Speaker 2: taking a quarterback. The Cowboys took a quarterback with their

1035
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Speaker 2: fourth round pick. That's what they've done.

1036
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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, so you're talking about they took those

1037
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Speaker 8: years ago.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about trading and that fourth round pick that

1039
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Speaker 2: they had this for this draft, they've already used it

1040
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Speaker 2: on a quarterback.

1041
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Speaker 8: So yeah, that's very fair.

1042
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Speaker 2: I know there's some national conversation about taking a quarterback.

1043
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Speaker 2: Don't expect it.

1044
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's very fair. I think you need

1045
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Speaker 8: to trade back.

1046
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Speaker 10: If the guy you love at twenty four is not there,

1047
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Speaker 10: get on the phone, pick up an extra pick or two,

1048
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Speaker 10: and start filling those needs with some more picks.

1049
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Speaker 2: What do you think?

1050
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Speaker 6: I agree? I agree.

1051
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Speaker 3: I would like to see if I would like to

1052
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Speaker 3: say office of tackle taken obviously, but to your point,

1053
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Speaker 3: if the guy that you love is not there, and

1054
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Speaker 3: then get out of there, Yeah, I mean, you're in it.

1055
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Speaker 3: You're at the part of the first round where you're

1056
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Speaker 3: either going to get your guy or you're not gonna

1057
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Speaker 3: get your guy. You're either going to be in love

1058
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Speaker 3: or you're not going to be in love. So if

1059
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Speaker 3: you're not in love, then go play the field well,

1060
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Speaker 3: and a.

1061
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Speaker 7: Big part of it too, is that as we sit

1062
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Speaker 7: here today, I mean, when you're at twenty four, so

1063
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Speaker 7: much stuff has to happen that you can sit here

1064
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Speaker 7: in today and you can have multiple calls out saying, yeah,

1065
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Speaker 7: you know, we got three different partners to move back with,

1066
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Speaker 7: so probably good chance Cowboys are gonna trade back. Well,

1067
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Speaker 7: and then stuff falls a certain way in those first

1068
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty three picks and all of a sudden, those

1069
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Speaker 7: teams aren't interested and you're sitting there like, well, I

1070
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Speaker 7: thought we were gonna be able to trade back, and

1071
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Speaker 7: stuff as an a or something happens where there's a

1072
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Speaker 7: player sliding that you maybe you're not you're interested in,

1073
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Speaker 7: but somebody else is, and all of a sudden, you

1074
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Speaker 7: get that call when you're on the clocket twenty.

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Speaker 2: Four, you know it's overpaid.

1076
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so they'll be prepared for it, but it's hard

1077
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Speaker 7: to predict right now because you don't know who's going

1078
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Speaker 7: to be there. It'd be way easier if we're doing

1079
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Speaker 7: the show and they were on pick twenty right now

1080
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Speaker 7: and being like, well, these guys are all available, and

1081
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Speaker 7: he and the Cowboys like all these guys, I bet

1082
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Speaker 7: you they could move back four or five spots and

1083
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Speaker 7: still get one of these guys. This is you know,

1084
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Speaker 7: I think they would love that scenario. They would love

1085
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Speaker 7: to find a path there to move back a handful

1086
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Speaker 7: of spots, gain a fourth round, third rounder, you know,

1087
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Speaker 7: in the process. But it just will that be there.

1088
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Speaker 7: The thing that they won't be doing is they won't

1089
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Speaker 7: be trading up. No, you know, I mean happening you

1090
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 7: simple math here. You just add this offseason and how

1091
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 7: conservative and boring it's been in terms of adding players.

1092
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Speaker 7: There hasn't been any aggressiveness at all. With the fact

1093
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Speaker 7: that they haven't traded up since Mooke Clayborne in twenty twelve.

1094
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Speaker 7: Like that's a long track record of not trading up,

1095
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 7: traded back twice since then, once with the Frederick once

1096
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Speaker 7: with you know, the Michael Parsons pick. But moving up plus,

1097
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Speaker 7: I don't think that there's anybody in this draft that

1098
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Speaker 7: they would move up for. And when I say move up,

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Speaker 7: I don't mean move from twenty four to fifteen.

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Speaker 9: I mean we even move up five spots. I haven't

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Speaker 9: seen them doing it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe like there's Tally Si Fuaga, Is that who you

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Speaker 2: were going to say?

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Speaker 8: I know that's the one guy. I think they get

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Speaker 8: on the phone.

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Speaker 9: How far up would you move for that?

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Speaker 2: You would have to get inside the top fifteen to

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Speaker 2: do it, and I think that's about as far as

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Speaker 2: they're going to go.

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Speaker 10: I think if they were to do it, if he's

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Speaker 10: still on the board at like sixteen, you get on

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Speaker 10: the phone with whoever has eighteen. I think it's maybe

1113
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 10: Jacksonville or since he since he. Yeah, you get on

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Speaker 10: the phone with Sincy and start kind of working the

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00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 10: phones there, and you have to kind of parlay some

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Speaker 10: picks next year. I think the one bit of a

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00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 10: breathing room that you do have if you want to

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00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 10: trade up is the fact that you're probably gonna have

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Speaker 10: a lot of comp picks next year. So it depends

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Speaker 10: how aggressive you want to be there. But I think

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Speaker 10: if Fuaga is falling that and they view him as

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Speaker 10: the left tackle of the future, then I could see

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Speaker 10: them being aggressive and going to grab him.

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Speaker 7: I personally do not think that the Dallas Cowboys will

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Speaker 7: trade up in the first round with Jerry Jones's owner

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Speaker 7: ever again, unless it's a quarterback. Yeah, if they trade

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Speaker 7: up in the first round, it'll be because, of course,

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Speaker 7: I don't see them doing it for another position player again,

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Speaker 7: I really I just don't.

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Speaker 9: I don't see that happening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Isaiah, what do you think about Tyley Esi Fuaga

1132
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: out of Oregon State? What do you think about him?

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00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 6: I don't like the school he went too. But he's

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Speaker 6: a big boy.

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Speaker 8: They're not even the same conference anymore.

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Speaker 10: They got there's no there's no beef anymore.

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00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,959
Speaker 2: He's a big boy. Sixty six three twenty four. Hunh

1138
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: you can play, he can play, he can play. That

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00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: might be your one guy, but I don't think it's happening.

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Speaker 6: I don't see them trading up.

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00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 13: Man.

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Speaker 3: This is again we're talking about going out and grabbing

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00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: a guy that you would really love, but you're sacrificing

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00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: the roster spots.

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Speaker 6: That you really need to, that you really need to

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Speaker 6: attend to.

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00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 3: So even if there's a guy that's absolutely amazing, I

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00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 3: still don't think that you can pull the trigger. I

1149
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: think you put yourself in an extreme disadvantage. You're going

1150
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: into this draft with an extreme disadvantage. So to go

1151
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: out there and be like, oh, yeah, we locked this one,

1152
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: we got that one position on lock, but now we

1153
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: have all these holes and.

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00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 6: We lost draft picks. You know, I just I can't

1155
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 6: foresee that happen.

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00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 9: How would you feel if that first round pick is

1157
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 9: a center?

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00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 3: I wouldn't just opposed to if he was a dog,

1159
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: If he was an absolute dog, then obviously then at

1160
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 3: that point then you have to move Tyler Smith out.

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00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: There's two guys for you. There's it's Graham Barton and

1162
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: Jackson Powers Johnson. Those are your two xach Fraser. You

1163
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: can make the argument you think for a first round

1164
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: twenty four or overall? Oh no, no, no, I think he's

1165
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 2: a trade back scenario.

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Speaker 8: We're talking about twenty four.

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00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 7: Specific Yeah, they take one of those two centers at

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00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 7: twenty four. How are you guys feeling Let's say that's

1169
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 7: one of those two centers is the pick.

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00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: I would feel great if it's Graham Barton, Oh man,

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00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: I would be cartwheels. If it's graand Barton, I don't

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00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: think he's going to be there one and two Jackson

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00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: Powers Johnson. I think he's great on film. The medicals

1174
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: are a little concerning of what we've been hearing.

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00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 6: That's about it.

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00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: Like, outside of the medicals, I think he's a great player,

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00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: and he may be legitimate for years to come. But

1178
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: it's just with the twenty fourth pick, you gotta be

1179
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: sure he's.

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00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,479
Speaker 8: Gonna have to grow schematically as well.

1181
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that that there has to be a

1182
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 10: lot of teaching between now and training camp.

1183
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 8: But we'll see.

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00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 10: That would be one reach kind of wait and see.

1185
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 10: But you bank on the trades there and he's got them.

1186
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 7: So I just kind of wonder from a down the

1187
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 7: road standpoint of can you pay a center big time money.

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Speaker 7: Let's say that they identify one of those two guys

1189
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Speaker 7: and they are a ten year Travis Frederick, you know

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Speaker 7: where it's like, Oh, obviously, if Travis Frederick never as

1191
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 7: Gian Berret, you know, still the center of the team

1192
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 7: right now? Yeah, for ten years, can you pay him

1193
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 7: and Tyler and then whoever your left tackle is and

1194
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 7: your quarterback and Micah and CD you know what I'm saying, Like,

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00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 7: there's one thing about center where I'm just like, if

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00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 7: that's your key piece there, that's gonna because I feel

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00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 7: like where they're at right now at center, they'll just

1198
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Speaker 7: rotate in somebody every a young kid.

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Speaker 9: Every four or five years move on to the next

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Speaker 9: one type thing like that.

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Speaker 7: But to be able to find that left tackle that

1202
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 7: you could have there for ten, ten, fifteen years, like

1203
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 7: pay them, you know, a top of the market. I

1204
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 7: think that's completely worth it, you know. But if you

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00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 7: have a generational talent at center, I guess you got

1206
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 7: to do it too. I mean, Creed Humphrey seems like

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Speaker 7: he's doing a good job.

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Speaker 2: Win a Super Bowl, so he's done a couple of

1209
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Speaker 2: good things along the way.

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Speaker 7: I just think there's a decent chance that that's the pick.

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Speaker 7: And I just I'm interested to see the way that

1212
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 7: the fan base will react to a center being their

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Speaker 7: first first pick.

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Speaker 3: Just know that you're you're getting your left tackled at

1215
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 3: the same time. Yeah, his name is James Tylers Smith.

1216
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: If you draft the center, you have your left tackle

1217
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 3: and then brock Hoffman or t J as your guard.

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00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it makes it simple. It simplifies your decisions.

1219
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: You know what you have at the offense line at

1220
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 3: that point.

1221
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 7: What's your confidence level? And Tyler Smith that left left

1222
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 7: tackle for a full season.

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00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 6: I need to see more of it. I haven't seen it

1224
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 6: since his Ricky year.

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00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, so he was good. He was good.

1226
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he has the pro but but he

1227
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: has a position of flex I mean, give him reps.

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00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 9: I don't know if I've been around it.

1229
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 7: Like a younger type player though, that has the right

1230
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 7: mentality more than he does.

1231
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 6: I mean he willing able.

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00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 9: Yeah, he he checks off every box like that.

1233
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 7: I mean yeah, you couldn't get a better person, for

1234
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 7: sure to be in that situation.

1235
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: He's possibly a top five guy in that lockero.

1236
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 9: Oh for sure.

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00:51:59,000 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: I think he's he's he's everything that they've ever wanted

1239
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: at that spot and more. All Right, that does it

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Speaker 2: for us. You're on Talking Cowboys quick announcement. Uh, this

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1242
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00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,399
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Speaker 2: taking my leave starting next week and Josh Rodriguez talking

1247
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Speaker 2: Cowboys for the foreseeable future. So really excited about that.

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Speaker 2: It's likely that my leave would be up. Maybe I

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Speaker 2: could get one show in in the next come. I

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Speaker 2: could get one show in coming up soon, but it'll

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Speaker 2: probably be training camps. We'll be the next time that

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Speaker 2: I'll be back on the air. So it's for good reasons,

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Speaker 2: good reasons. But I will be back soon and I

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Speaker 2: will certainly be watching and interacting on Twitter.

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Speaker 8: Come back with bags under his eyes.

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