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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing that

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Speaker 1: we like to call the after party. This is the

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Speaker 1: show after the show, the party after the party, the

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Speaker 1: bridge to get from one full episode of Disgraceland to

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Speaker 1: the other, the backyard, to dig into the dirt, and

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Speaker 1: our mission is to uncover the truth, to confront the myth,

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Speaker 1: to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, the cost

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Speaker 1: of Art, the Great Beauty, Wendy O. Williams's tragic end,

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Speaker 1: in your emails, comments, DMS, and as always, a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed,

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Speaker 1: the outsiders, the dependent thinkers who know that the best

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Speaker 1: history is the history that gets very Disgraceland is where

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Speaker 1: I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind

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Speaker 1: you'll end up telling someone else. All right, just goes,

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Here we are, here, we are.

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Speaker 1: I am back behind the desk. It's been a minute. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I know you haven't missed me in the feed. I've

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Speaker 1: been in the feed with you these last few days weeks,

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Speaker 1: I literally just sat down in my chair here behind

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Speaker 1: I am pumped to talk to you guys. It's been

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Speaker 1: it has everything to do with Wendy O. Williams, and

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Speaker 1: It has to do with what you guys love. Great art,

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Speaker 1: Wendy O. Williams, this week's full episode subject of Disgraceland.

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Speaker 1: She was a fearless artist. Some might quibble with that

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Speaker 1: word artists. Some might say that that's a term unworthy

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Speaker 1: is no doubt about it. Wendy O. Williams was a

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Speaker 1: driven artist. She was compelled to create in an effort

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Speaker 1: when that option was no longer available to her, she

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Speaker 1: sad ending. Life is delicate. Art is also delicate. Even

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Speaker 1: Making something truly great is a delicate balance of expression

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Speaker 1: great episode on Jeff Buckley. I miss him every day.

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Speaker 3: The seventies gets all the love for I mean rightfully

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Speaker 3: I think I think the seventies felt so far in

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Speaker 1: need the whole brevity thing. You want to email? Jason

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Speaker 1: Carrey writes saying, Hey, Widow's Bay, it's obviously supposed to

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Speaker 1: be Maine due to the Stephen King font. Well, you know, Jason,

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Speaker 1: is it Maine? It's a strong case for Maine. I

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Speaker 1: get it. We should ask the maners if Widow's Bay.

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Speaker 1: We should ask Matt Bowden, Jason, you from Maine, and

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Speaker 1: we should ask Eth as well. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: They does a lot of Martha's Vineyard talk, so probably not.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're paying homage definitely to Stephen King

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Speaker 1: like they're paying homage to a lot of great eighties horror.

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Speaker 1: The music doesn't strike me as particularly Stephen King. I

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Speaker 1: can't tell what they're working on there by the way

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Speaker 1: the music in the Cape Fear remake, I know it's

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Speaker 1: just the original music, but it's so good. It's so great.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the original music. It feels like it. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: I have watched the end of Widow's Bay because I've

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Speaker 1: been traveling and I kind of let go of watching

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Speaker 1: is Cape Fear. And Jason, I appreciate your email here

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Speaker 1: because you reminded me to watch both of them. Pete

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Speaker 1: our Rights in Hey, you should do another episode on

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Speaker 1: I don't like Mondays. The new info from the Brenda

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Speaker 1: biography is wild. We never did an episode on it.

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Speaker 1: I don't like Mondays or the Boomtown Rats, but it's

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Speaker 1: going on the list. Thanks Pete, appreciate you. Jay Hangham

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Speaker 1: Rights and Hey, Jake. A quick one from Blackpool, a

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Speaker 1: wee town in the UK which in the first week

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Speaker 1: of August holds a punk festival. It's called Rebellion. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's been going on for thirty years, so with it

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Speaker 1: also being fifty years of punk rock too. This year

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Speaker 1: will be huge. It's a pub across the road from

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Speaker 1: our tattoo studio which is hosting forty bands in four days,

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Speaker 1: and many other fringe gigs happening over the week. My

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Speaker 1: husband and I have been official tattoos for the Will

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Speaker 1: since twenty fourteen, and the music, the people and the

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Speaker 1: punk ethos influenced our daughter since she was seven and

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Speaker 1: has made her into the kick ass kid that she

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Speaker 1: is today at eighteen. Anyways, fancy a trip to Blackpool

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Speaker 1: in August? We've got a cool tower. Love the show, Joanna.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the invite, Joanna, I don't think I can

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Speaker 1: make it back over to the UK, back over to Europe,

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Speaker 1: I should say in August, but I appreciate that sounds.

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Speaker 1: I love hearing the punk rock has influenced the youth

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Speaker 1: in positive ways. Appreciate the email, Joanne. I hope you

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Speaker 1: have a great festival. Send some picks. This one comes

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Speaker 1: from Jonathan Epstein Double Loves Team. Hey, it's your old

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Speaker 1: pal Jonathan from the six to one zero. I'm a

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Speaker 1: disco and I'm a fan for a few years and

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Speaker 1: I'm a Patriot member since the beginning, and I'm digging

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Speaker 1: the rap party and all the extra after party content.

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Speaker 1: But I had a request for you, guys. I'm usually

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Speaker 1: in my car at work or working on a project

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Speaker 1: when listening to Disgrace Land and love hearing the hot

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Speaker 1: takes between Zeth and Jake. However, there are times when

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Speaker 1: you talk about recommendations and Zeth will say, oh, this

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Speaker 1: movie is amazing. I can't believe you haven't heard the

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Speaker 1: cover blah blah blah. And you go back and forth,

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Speaker 1: and that'll take you to somewhere else, like the heist

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Speaker 1: the cover songs. And here's my ask, the show notes,

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Speaker 1: can you please put links to these things so I

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Speaker 1: don't have to stop, pause, go back, write it down.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast for the true crime geeks and freaks,

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Speaker 1: but can someone make it a little easier to follow

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Speaker 1: the trail and dig the res? Thank you and thank you,

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Speaker 1: and keep up the great work. Rock a Roller your

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Speaker 1: old pal Jonathan in the six' one, Oh Jonathan, this

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Speaker 1: sounds like a great job for our guy, Brett. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about the show notes. Perhaps we do something

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Speaker 1: in Patreon, uh putting on the links in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: It's there's already a lot of links and that has

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Speaker 1: all kinds of ramifications. But maybe we can do some

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Speaker 1: sort of ancillary documentation. I hear you. It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot. We're gonna look into that. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan disgrace ingpod at gmail dot com. You guys want

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Speaker 1: to email me about any topic under the sun, go

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Speaker 1: for it. Next week we're talking about the doors. I

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Speaker 1: want to know how you think Jim Morrison died, if

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Speaker 1: you believe what they put out is the official cause

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Speaker 1: of death, if you believe what the conspiracy theorists have

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Speaker 1: been peddling since the beginning, and even the new theories

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Speaker 1: that came up about twenty years ago, and what you

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Speaker 1: think of my theory as well's not my theory of

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Speaker 1: the facts. I should say that I'm laying out there

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Speaker 1: six one seven nine, six six sixty three. I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to talk Jim Morrison and the count coming up next week,

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Speaker 1: But right now I'm talking to Zeth Lundy, and you

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Speaker 1: gotta be an All Access member to hear it. Disgrace

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Speaker 1: lamdpod dot com to sign up, become an All Access member,

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Speaker 1: become part of the disgrace Landed community. Take quick break

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Speaker 1: back after this. All right, guys, we are back there.

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Speaker 1: You're hanging in there with me on a late night

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Speaker 1: here in the week of June. What is it June

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Speaker 1: thirtieth when I'm recording this. Yeah, we're into July by

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Speaker 1: the time you're hearing it, July first second. Appreciate you all,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging out, Thanks for be coming an All

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Speaker 1: Access member if if you have done so, thanks for listening,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for spreading the word. I've been awake for a

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Speaker 1: really long time and I'm gonna go to bed soon.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna drink another beer, have a couple of slices

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Speaker 1: of pizza. I think might put on the soccer game.

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Speaker 1: I think France is playing check that out. But in

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Speaker 1: the meantime, we're gonna recap all right. Number one, Wendy O.

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Speaker 1: Williams is available in your feed for you right now.

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Speaker 1: Number two are rewind Slot coming up this week, and

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Speaker 1: we get Lana del Rey next week. We have Jim

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Speaker 1: Morrison and the Count Zeth is giving you those Hollywood

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Speaker 1: and crime vibes over in the Hollywood Land feed. So

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Speaker 1: make sure you are subscribed, and I give you my

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Speaker 1: music recommendations in the wrap party every week. I forgot

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Speaker 1: to mention that earlier. That's happening in Hollywood Land as

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Speaker 1: it is always, so check that out. Number five, This

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Speaker 1: film should be played loud. Our video podcast with our

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Speaker 1: episode on Days and Confused is available for you to

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Speaker 1: listen to you right now. Number six six one seven

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Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. Your voice keeps

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Speaker 1: usticking to the dark corners of the music history. So

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Speaker 1: keep calling, keep texting with your answers to this week's

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Speaker 1: question of the week, or with whatever else you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about. Number seven. Don't forget disc goes. This

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Speaker 1: isn't just content. It's a community, a community of the obsessed.

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Speaker 1: And no one cares about music, books, records in the

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Speaker 1: crime and grime that ties them all together like you do.

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Speaker 1: And well that's a disgrace, all right. Back on April sixth,

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, Wendy O. Williams tragically met her end.

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Speaker 1: And here's what America was listening to on that day,

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Speaker 1: according to the Billboard Charts. Number one All My Life

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Speaker 1: Casey and Jojo last week fifteen peak position one weeks

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Speaker 1: on chart two. Number two Frozen Madonna last week five

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Speaker 1: peak position two weeks on chart.

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Speaker 4: Last three four number three physician Nice and Slow last

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Speaker 4: week two peak position one weeks on chart. Seven eleven

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Speaker 4: peak last number three My Heart go On Selene dr

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Speaker 4: Last week p Physicians to walk out us our church

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