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Speaker 2: Podcast starts. Now, what's up everyone? You were listening to

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Speaker 2: Stradia lab Bi coastally. Of course, I'm coming at you

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Speaker 3: Well, I was saying, you're sort of like an actress

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Speaker 3: when the blue gatorade goes into the gullet, it's time.

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Speaker 3: It's time to say those talking points. And then she's there,

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Speaker 3: you know, promoting her big MGM movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like and somehow she does pull it

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Speaker 3: Shout out to our friend Dana Dario's novel, which'm pretty

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Speaker 3: sure has a very similar scene in it. I have

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Speaker 3: had three kind of cinematic things happened to me over

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Speaker 3: the last twenty four hours. You want to hear about

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Speaker 3: the God Yes please number one. This morning, you know,

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Speaker 3: fans of the pod might know I am in some

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Speaker 3: ways cheating on Sam by co hosting a different iHeart

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Speaker 3: podcast that is a pop culture history podcast about the Kennedys.

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Speaker 3: This morning, I did a public radio tour. So here's

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Speaker 3: what that entails. I'm on a zoom. Every ten minutes,

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Speaker 3: they bring in a different local radio host to interview us,

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Speaker 4: It was like your fantasy.

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Speaker 3: It was like a window into eighties slash nineties promotional

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Speaker 3: tours because it's like you know it's someone who is

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Speaker 3: just was so heaven to me. I was like, this,

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Speaker 3: Second, I don't know about glamorous, but it's like moments

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Speaker 2: Trust your gut with people that are like true pathological liars.

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Speaker 3: Well, I do think that we were talking about this

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Speaker 4: George, don't say that.

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Speaker 3: Sure some of them do want to be actors. Of course.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's very sitcom that you were having all these

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I've been sort of doing that thing of like

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Speaker 2: now we're out in the studio and it have never

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Speaker 2: felt better in my life. Well, well, and I think

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I would absolutely be thrilled to do that.

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Speaker 2: Well, our guest is to die for. Please welcome to

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Speaker 2: the podcast, otsico O Kotzika.

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Speaker 5: Hello, beautifuls Hi, Hi, busy.

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Speaker 3: George B.

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Speaker 4: Busy, George B.

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Speaker 5: Busy being Hollywood life, not in Hollywood even close.

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Speaker 3: That's right. Well, I try, you know, wherever I go

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Speaker 2: Oh, I do feel that, like saying like you know,

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Speaker 5: Yes. And you over there with your food poisoning. I

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, what So what's wild is? I actually

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Speaker 4: It's an epidemic.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, mine was pork noodle soup. How about you?

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Speaker 2: I need to talk about these oysters I had, because

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Speaker 3: Just because it's Italian ice doesn't mean it's Italian cuisine.

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Speaker 3: It's just like it's a little shaved ice on top

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Speaker 3: Wait, one was actually cotton candy flavor.

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Speaker 4: Literally it was cotton candy flavor.

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Speaker 3: No, I agree, I trust so important because I'm sort

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Speaker 3: of like you guys dedicated your life to this, like

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Speaker 5: Yes, but not diversity. They're not experimenting with that.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 5: But but but food and drink and you know the

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Speaker 2: But you know how it's like an excuse all the time,

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Speaker 5: I want to know these circles you run in where

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Speaker 3: Such a classic excuse. I feel like it's yeah, especially

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Speaker 5: Sweetie, I'm I'm well, do you think I am?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 5: College, I'm like, bitch, college was I could barely remember it?

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Speaker 3: Okay? What about? What?

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Speaker 3: I don't know?

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Speaker 2: What if you what do you say when you want

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're like, oh, I just looked it up.

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Speaker 2: It's an hour away.

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Speaker 5: I thought we're all about more. Honestly, these days, I

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Speaker 3: No, that's listen, and I agree. I actually I agree

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Speaker 5: Days people would understand literally going like I don't you

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Speaker 3: And I actually think, I actually think the more detail

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Speaker 5: Sure, And you said that long sentence like you've sent

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Speaker 3: Because I was young. I do think when I was younger,

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Speaker 2: But it's like, how do you say, like, I have

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Speaker 3: Can do that.

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Speaker 5: You can do that, throw everyone on an house under

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Speaker 5: not like not like George or whatever, not like George's

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Speaker 5: food poisoning, but for real.

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Speaker 2: Real food poisoning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I do want to prove it, but there's no way

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Speaker 2: You've all seen it. You've seen how skinny a yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that's what you should do. That's what you

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Speaker 5: Look at this tiny top.

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Speaker 2: I'm worrying normally this barely fits. Oh now I'm drowning

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Speaker 2: in it? Exactly should we do our first segment?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: What the hell?

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Speaker 4: Why not?

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Speaker 3: Ought to go? Our first segment in this podcast, which

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Speaker 3: we test your familiarity with and complicity and straight culture

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Speaker 3: by asking you a series of rapid fire questions where

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Speaker 3: and if you do, we will get so mad at

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Speaker 3: you you would not believe you think we're being nice.

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Speaker 3: Oh ha haha, we're all joking around. I so much

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Speaker 3: as hear an intonation that could be construed as inquisitive.

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Speaker 3: I am going to literally take a plane from Brooklyn,

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Speaker 3: New York aka Hollywood when I'm here and land at Lax,

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Speaker 5: I want to see you try what you just described

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Speaker 5: will take three days to happen literally next to this studio.

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding? I'll see you in three days a

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Speaker 3: week with the way Boeing is these days.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, George, that I have to say.

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Speaker 2: That was a beautiful sentence in general. Oh thank you

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Speaker 2: the inquisitive intonation. I was like, whoa, he's going for

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Speaker 2: it today?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 5: No questions? Okay, boom, no questions from me?

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Speaker 2: Okay, perfect, Well here's the first one. Okay, build a

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Speaker 2: bear or build a blasio, build build a bear.

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Speaker 3: Taking the train or aching with pain?

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Speaker 5: I love these rhymes. Taking the train or aching with pain,

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Speaker 5: Aching with pain?

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Speaker 2: Okay, use your name taken or thou hast forsaken, thou

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Speaker 3: Liking your CRUSH's story or biking into a trash bin.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, like your crushous story, Hi Jinks and Sue, or

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Speaker 5: Jinks and Sue for sure?

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Speaker 3: Susical the musical? Or using pharmaceuticals?

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Speaker 5: Whoa, oh yeah, can I say both?

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Speaker 3: Sure, that's on that question. So we are going to

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Speaker 2: Both, okay, okay, both exchanging pleasantries or exclaiming Heaven's.

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Speaker 5: Me uh, exchanging pleasant trees?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Osicho, it's raining men. His name is Glen. I

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Speaker 3: paid in yen. Or your grade is ten?

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Speaker 4: WHOA?

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Speaker 5: Your grade is ten?

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Speaker 2: Wow, Georgie, and I have a question that actually in

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Speaker 3: Okay, I did so. It did occur to me that

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Speaker 4: Say it again?

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Speaker 3: It's raining men. His name is Glenn, I paid in yen.

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Speaker 3: Your grade is ten.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I thought your intonation was beautiful.

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Speaker 5: We knew, we knew the rhymes.

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Speaker 3: We knew.

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Speaker 5: That's not that wasn't why we wasn't the issue. It

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I hear you loud and clear. It's just

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Speaker 5: A loss memory loss?

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Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, it's like it's a tenth grader that wakes

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Your greatest ten? You're greatest ten?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Well? And also like who gets a ten on the test?

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Speaker 2: Like I have to be honest. Even if you fail,

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Speaker 3: Oh see, I was thinking it's like from zero to ten.

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Speaker 4: Oh, like they got a ten on a ten.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like on the runway.

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Speaker 3: your grade is ten out of one hundred, and then

443
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 3: you're like barely aware of your surroundings.

444
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 4: And by the way, you're in tenth grade.

445
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 3: So you better, honestly, you better like get it together

446
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 3: because college applications are starting next year.

447
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 5: Yes exactly.

448
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yes, the person who hears this there go, oh,

449
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,159
Speaker 2: I got a ten on my test and I'm in

450
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 2: tenth grade. It sound only tens ten cents across the board.

451
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,160
Speaker 5: That's right, Yes, exactly. How this segment is making sense

452
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 5: to me? Yeah, now I get it.

453
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 3: So, speaking of tens across the board, OSCO we rank

454
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 3: our guests performance on a scale of zero to one

455
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 3: thousand Doves, which is named after the Lady Gaga B

456
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,159
Speaker 3: side one Thousand Doves from the album Chromatica, which is

457
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 3: not represented at all in the set list for the

458
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Speaker 3: Mayhem Ball I don't know if which people have been

459
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:00,360
Speaker 3: keeping tabs on that.

460
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 4: I have been keeping tabs on that, and I found

461
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 4: it upsetting.

462
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 3: I actually think it's it's the opposite of ari Astra

463
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 3: making Eddington in that Gaga is like, you know what,

464
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 3: we actually can't be nostalgic for Lockdown quite yet. Yeah,

465
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 3: She's like that just happens, yes, because she could have

466
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Speaker 3: to doing Dramatica. Really is when I think of Chromatica,

467
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 3: I think of Gaga and Ariana performing with novelty masks. Yeah,

468
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 3: at the like MTV VMAs, and it's like, I'm actually

469
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 3: not ready to picture that just quite yet.

470
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Speaker 2: The thing is, have you gone back and watched that?

471
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Speaker 2: Sorry to I'm.

472
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Speaker 3: Not sorry, we need to remember that we have a

473
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 3: guest I'm listening.

474
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 2: Well, it's literally I recommend everyone to go back and

475
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: rewatch it. The Yeah, Arianna and Gaga VMA's performance because

476
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 2: it feels like when you watch, like you know, a

477
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,959
Speaker 2: performance from something when like World War Two was happening

478
00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: totally totally whoa whoa, whoa, it's like so weird.

479
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, people were still figured. People were still figuring

480
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 3: out where they stood. Because now there's such stereotypes of

481
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: like this archetype is an anti masker, this archetype is

482
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,239
Speaker 3: like a liberal who is banging pots and pans. This

483
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 3: archetype is like January sixth rioter or whatever. At that time,

484
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 3: we were still figuring out where we all stood. Yeah,

485
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: what you're supposed to look like?

486
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, exactly.

487
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 3: Okay, So so basically we have to rank your performance

488
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Speaker 3: on scale of zero to one thousand doves. Like I

489
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come out and say it, you did incredibly

490
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Speaker 3: well in my opinion.

491
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

492
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: I think you were very confident in your answers. I

493
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 3: like that you did both for one of them, and

494
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 3: I honestly think the fact that you did both sort

495
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 3: of like raise more questions than answers, which is what

496
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: it's all about. You know, obviously we are going to

497
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Speaker 3: cut some points for asking a question, but at the

498
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Speaker 3: same time, I feel like it's playing with the forum

499
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,479
Speaker 3: to ask a question, and it's punk rock to do

500
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 3: something you're not supposed to.

501
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes I think asking a question is a

502
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: gift because it lets us get mad for one second.

503
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly right. So I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm thinking,

504
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 3: like eight hundred ninety eight.

505
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: Whoa, that's an amazing score.

506
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really.

507
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 5: There's a lot of doves. Yeah, that's a lot of

508
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 5: duff folks. That's a lot of dough that's one hundred something.

509
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 5: I couldn't do the math fast enough.

510
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 3: That didn't.

511
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 5: That wasn't the whole thing. That wasn't the whole doves.

512
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: It was the whole doves. But there was a lot

513
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Speaker 2: of doves.

514
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 5: I can go home happy about that.

515
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Speaker 3: What would you do? What would you do if if

516
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: we actually sent physically nine hundred or eight hundred and

517
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 3: ninety eight doves to your home?

518
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Speaker 5: I would Well, so they're flying, right, they're flying in

519
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 5: and it's not like you boxed them.

520
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they are.

521
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 2: I think they I think they would arrive in a

522
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: box to be honest.

523
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so I insaid, instead of you would have

524
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 5: bought them an airplane, right.

525
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking helicopter carrying a giant like I guess

526
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 3: cage you would call it. But they are flying within

527
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 3: the cage, but it's not a closed box. Like there's

528
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 3: an air going in and out. Obviously, we don't want

529
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 3: to kill them. They can breathe, they can breathe, and

530
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 3: they're flying. They've actually created a really beautiful community inside

531
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: the cage, inside the Stradio Lab branded Dove Cage that

532
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 3: we said.

533
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're happy in there.

534
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 3: They're happy in there. Some people have kind of emerged

535
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: as the leaders of the town. There's like a Zoron

536
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: figure of course, and a Cuomo figure. You know, there's

537
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 3: always one.

538
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: Of course, That's that's how it goes. You know, you

539
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: have to have balance.

540
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 3: So they arrive. You know, I'm not sure what your

541
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: house looks like. Obviously in LA you have some outdoor space,

542
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 3: which is nice. Would you immediately free them? Would you

543
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: choose some to raise and some to eliminate?

544
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, eliminate. Eliminate would be a bold choice. I mean,

545
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 5: even if there is a even if there is like

546
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 5: you know, a Cuomo type or whatever, you know, I

547
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 5: would say, well, int sting, you know they they I mean,

548
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 5: if you think about it, right, nine hundred doves, that's

549
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 5: that's its own helicopter too. I would I would say, hey,

550
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 5: you know, these boys are so silly, you know, they

551
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 5: these guys could fly, but no, let's put them in

552
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 5: a bigger flying thing, right, And I'd be like, oh,

553
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 5: that's interesting. That didn't answer any of your questions. That

554
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 5: was you know how I would first respond.

555
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 3: Yes, course, listen, we understand if you need some time

556
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: to like process the fact that you now are the

557
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: proud pet owner of almost nine hundred doves.

558
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I would. I would try to train

559
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 5: some that's fun. I would you know, to to do

560
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:48,479
Speaker 5: male again, you know, reminiscent of their past. Yeah, yeah,

561
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 5: don't forget where you came from.

562
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: Oh my, that's a really good that's a really good point.

563
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 3: And actually this could be speaking of Portland. I feel

564
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 3: like it would be a very Portland small business for

565
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: you to literally have a small business that's like a

566
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 3: private dove mailing service. And it would be like people

567
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: would use it for their non denominational wedding invites. People

568
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 3: could use it to plan, you know, a sort of

569
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: polyamorous retreat. They can use it to send invites for

570
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 3: a sex positive queer film festival.

571
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 5: Yes, maybe tiny snacks if it's not too heavy, they

572
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 5: could deliver them.

573
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: To Yes, some chick pea chips, perhaps, individual individually revidually

574
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: chickpea puffs.

575
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: Yes, that sounds amazing.

576
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 5: Yes, you know, I forget because doves are pigeons too, so.

577
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: We need to have this conversation. Doves our pigeons. Doves,

578
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: they're just like their definitencies.

579
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, they're just white. And you know, just like

580
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 5: everything in life, when something's white, they go, well this

581
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 5: is better.

582
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I do agree with you. It's like, not

583
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 3: only is it racist, but it's also like quite simply

584
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 3: wrong that being like a dirtyish, all white bird is

585
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: more attractive than being a beautiful pigeon that has like

586
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 3: little stripes and stuff like I do think aesthetically speaking,

587
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: if I were to if you were to tell me, okay,

588
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: you get an article of clothing, you have a beautiful

589
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: dress that you're gonna wear the big Gala, do you

590
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 3: want it to be like more in a pigeon gradient

591
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: or a dove gradient? I would pick pigeon every time

592
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: you would.

593
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 5: I mean, because like, white parties are so big, you

594
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 5: know what I mean.

595
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 3: They are, but it's not exactly. But a dove is

596
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: not fully white. It's like this dirty. It's like dirty

597
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: white gray cream. Don't you think I guess you're okay.

598
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: So you're like you're saying it's quiet luxury. What a

599
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: white dove is quiet luxury?

600
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 5: A quiet luxury.

601
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: Which is like a sort of minimalist aesthetic where you're

602
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: wearing just like a plain beige dress or like jeans

603
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: and a really expensive white button down or something.

604
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 5: That's how I usually they paint doves. I haven't looked

605
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 5: at a dove in a while.

606
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

607
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 5: I feel like, yeah, you you really got a specific

608
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 5: color going on for them?

609
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only does I think of our like magician doves,

610
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: Like yes, And.

611
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 5: To me, they're like, oh, it's pretty like I don't know,

612
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 5: I would just say white, but maybe maybe they're a

613
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 5: grayish off color. Maybe it's not as attraction.

614
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 3: You know. I think what I'm thinking of, honestly is

615
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: just that like they are naturally a little dirty because

616
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: they're outside, and so whenever I've seen a dove, I'm

617
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 3: a little bit like someone needs to clean that, Like

618
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 3: this is not the pristine white tone that I was promised.

619
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 5: Yes, but I'm with you in that, and I'm with

620
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 5: you in that, like, yeah, they're overrated, Like why do

621
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 5: they get a better why do they get a better status. Yes,

622
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 5: to the point, they have a different name, right, it's

623
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 5: you know, no, I'm not a pigeon, you know, that's them.

624
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: A different name and a name that's like synonymous with

625
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: glamour and glitz.

626
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Christianity and Christianity.

627
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 4: I mean a dove.

628
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: I would argue its closer to a swan than a

629
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: pigeon in my mind, Like I'm like, what a fancy words.

630
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: Totally although you know what though, unlike a swan, which

631
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: has maintained its chic reputation, I think everything named after

632
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: a Dove is kind of low reent. Like if you

633
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: think about Dove chocolate, Dove deodorant, Dove even just like

634
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: Dove as a as a Procter and Gamble company or

635
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: Unilever or whatever it is, it's not These aren't sophisticated products.

636
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: You know, we're not talking about like this isn't you

637
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: know Louis Vuitton.

638
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of sad because in a way, they're

639
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: like telling us that we're pigeons and we should aspire,

640
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 2: yeah to be like there is something condescending about it.

641
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is how you know that doves are pigeons,

642
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 5: is you know, how they release them during a wedding.

643
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 5: Have a big dumpster, dumpster trash right there, and then

644
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 5: when you release them, watch them go straight to the trash.

645
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, literally, they are. They are just like rats

646
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: of the sky.

647
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 5: There's still this. They'll be like, they'll go back to

648
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 5: who they really are. They'll be like, oh, you think

649
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 5: you think we're going to take off into the sky. No,

650
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 5: you know, they're going to go into the pilot trash

651
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 5: and be like, actually, you know, we're just we're just

652
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 5: cousins of pigeons.

653
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: Okay, here's something I'm working on. So doves to pigeons,

654
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: swans to geese. Swans are swans just geese? Are they different?

655
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 5: You know, well because geese come yeah, yeah, right, swans

656
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 5: are just white geese.

657
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: Right wait, are they geese or ducks?

658
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 4: Whoa, they're they're geese.

659
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: The long neck.

660
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, swan and geese have long necks. Ducks have short necks.

661
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I guess that's true. I guess I guess.

662
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: I was recently at a pond that had ducks and swans,

663
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: So they com mingle. Okay, so that's yeah, they're like friends,

664
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: but they're not in the same family.

665
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like ducks and mallards are like kind of

666
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: the same.

667
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 5: Whoa mallards is? Okay? See this is when that's straight

668
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 5: culture literally knowing the difference between what we just said.

669
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: In a mallard.

670
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: I completely agree. Yeah, there's something about like this obsession

671
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: to catalog everything.

672
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.

673
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 5: I don't know what mallard is.

674
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: What's I actually also don't know what that is.

675
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: It's like a type of duck, I think, but it's

676
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 2: like I think it's like sort of more regal.

677
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 5: Do you come from a bird hunting family?

678
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: No, No, but I've I've I've tried to, like I

679
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: tried to once have like a joke about like the

680
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: narcissm of small differences, but for ducks and mallards and

681
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 2: how people like how like you'd never want to call

682
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: a Mallard a duck because they'd be like, well, I'm

683
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: a Mallard. We're actually extremely different, and everyone else will

684
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: be like, no, you're not, You're the same.

685
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: I think that differences is like the overarching theme here,

686
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: like all these things. Either they are birds that have

687
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: very similar you know, eating migration and uh and otherwise habits,

688
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: or they are pond bird pond creatures that are also

689
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: very similar and are just like eating random scraps of

690
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: toast that children are throwing at them.

691
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

692
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: So it's like you guys do yeah, what.

693
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 5: You guys are good at sounding like you're an expert

694
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 5: in every subjects.

695
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: We have had. This is literally our entire our entire

696
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: m O, our entire career.

697
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 5: When did these two become bird experts? I'm like, I

698
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 5: just told about pigeons and then here we are, I

699
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 5: don't know, big old Like, wow, No.

700
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: I honestly have to say that this conversation has been

701
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: like so vintage Tradia lab in a way that I

702
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: really was like, oh, this is nice. We haven't gone,

703
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: like done a deep dive on something sons.

704
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: Favorite thing, honestly, and it really is true that we

705
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 3: haven't done in a while. Our favorite thing is putting

706
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: things into categories. It's like and making a theory about

707
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: the world from those categories. Like, Okay, now we're talking

708
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: about like Swan's ducks, geese, and what's the other one? Mallard.

709
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: Mallard like, I'm like, I'm so ready to spin this

710
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: into a theory about how those are the four kinds

711
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: of gay people? You know? Am I ready to do

712
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: that right now. Maybe not God, not after food poison

713
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: not after my big public radio tour, and not after

714
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: Sam's food poisoning. But just know that that the wheels

715
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: are turning and in a few months you're we're thinking

716
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: Instagram carousel. Here's the fourte Yes.

717
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, we can go into it, but we'd have to study.

718
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 5: We'd have to me and you, George, at least know

719
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 5: what mallards are a little more.

720
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: I know, it's really killing me that I can't picture

721
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: what it is.

722
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's like a duck. It's essentially like a type

723
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: of duck, I think, yeah, but it's like.

724
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 5: More respective which ones are the ones we eat?

725
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good question. Like if you're getting I

726
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: don't know, if you're getting a peaking duck. What kind

727
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: of duck is that?

728
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

729
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 5: I don't think it's your typical, you know, green head one.

730
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's that whatever that is. You know.

731
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: I had pigeon and and you know, sorry for anyone

732
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: who's easily grossed out, the head was served. It was

733
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: cut in the you know, cross section, so you could

734
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: see like the head and where the bra and like

735
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: half the brain, and the guy that served it to

736
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: us goes, you know, the way you eat this, The

737
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: skeleton is actually so thin that you can just eat

738
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 3: it whole and it's just crunchy, and so you take

739
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: the half of a head and just put it in

740
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: your mouth and eat it.

741
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 5: Was this also molecular gastronomy.

742
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: This was Yeah, did it come with a scoop of sugar?

743
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: Let me guess Portland. Let me get this Korean restaurant

744
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 3: inside a subway stop. Oh, like a like a fine

745
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: dining Korean restaurant inside a subway stop that you like,

746
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: you go into this gross subway then there's an unmarked door,

747
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 3: but it's like if you know, you know, you go in,

748
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: suddenly you're in, you know, you feel like you're in

749
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: like a London you know, like a sophisticated tasting counter.

750
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: How was it?

751
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 3: Honestly delicious?

752
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: Wow?

753
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 5: Brooklyn has changed?

754
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 4: This was in Manhattan?

755
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 2: Actually, Yeah, Georges going Manhattan girl mode big time.

756
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 5: Easy pigeon restaurants, restaurants, easy Korean restaurants that serve pigeon

757
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 5: just off fresh off the street, fresh off of Manhattan.

758
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the thing. It's like you hear

759
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 3: that and of course it's you know, it's not squab.

760
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 3: But what there's like there's like a more sophisticated word

761
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: people use, but it's literally pigeon.

762
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 5: Squab, not another bird time I don't know.

763
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 3: And of course you're like, you're like, oh my god,

764
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: a new thing like this, I can't wait to try it.

765
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: And then you remember, wait a minute, there are pigeons

766
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 3: literally on the street, Like are these pigeons literally coming

767
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 3: from above ground? You know, above the f train.

768
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: Well, this is what I have to say. I've never

769
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: understood how we have different names for things that like

770
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: when they like a chicken is also poultry, I'm like,

771
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: just call a chicken, like we have the name for it.

772
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I know, Like why have the second name

773
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: just for when you're eating it?

774
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, like a pig pig and pork yeah pam.

775
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, pam totally. But don't you think that is to

776
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: distance yourself from the violence of eating this, you know,

777
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: beautiful smart animal, of course.

778
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 5: But fish is fish water, They chopped liver. We don't care.

779
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 5: We're like, yeah, that's fish.

780
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: That's just like you know, it's true, it's true. And

781
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: then sometimes you know you'll be dealing with like a

782
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: big turkey and suddenly someone will call it the bird

783
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, sorry, have we gone full circle?

784
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

785
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: Now they're like trying to incite more violence. They're like,

786
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: don't forget, we're killing you.

787
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Oh yes, right right right, it's true.

788
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: It's true.

789
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 5: But again, fish is fish.

790
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: Fish is just fish.

791
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 5: Because vegetarians will eat fish sometimes and they'll be like, ah,

792
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 5: I do that though. I'm like, oh pescatarian right where

793
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 5: they're like I eat no meat, but fish.

794
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: It's like what what?

795
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 5: Because they're because.

796
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 3: They don't blink.

797
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 5: Because they don't blink, you don't feel like they're real.

798
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're one hundred percent right.

799
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: Prescarians are the most morally weak people on the planet.

800
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 3: It's like, commit to something.

801
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 4: Well, have your cake and eat it too, right.

802
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 5: Right, They're like, oh, because you know fish, and it's like, what,

803
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 5: they don't have feelings. I think it's because fish don't blink.

804
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 5: So they're like, oh, it's definitely fish don't blink.

805
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't breathe underwater like I'm breathing oxygen.

806
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they breathe water. They're they're othered because they

807
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: breathe water.

808
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: You know pescatarians. It's like, yeah, I feel about It's

809
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: how I feel about people with one minimalist tattoo. I'm like,

810
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: either be tattooed or don't be Either have h like,

811
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: have the courage to have full sleeves and you know,

812
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: a portrait of your late aunt on your chest, or

813
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: go to work at the consulting firm. Don't try to

814
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: have it both ways. Don't have a origami sailboat on

815
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 3: your ankle.

816
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: Done.

817
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 5: That's cute.

818
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, oh that's cute.

819
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: Well, yes, what I'm going to get that.

820
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: Literally The reason I mentioned is because that's the touchtoo

821
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 3: I wanted when I was in my twenties.

822
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: Should we get into our topic today? Yes, So this

823
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 2: is interesting. We're doing something that's kind of brand new,

824
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 2: which is that we asked Otsco sort of what her

825
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: vibe is and what, you know, sort of things she

826
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: used to do that could be construed us straight and

827
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: she brought up cheerleading, which we George and I both

828
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: jumped at and said, that's so genius. We never talked

829
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: about cheerleading. We have to talk about cheerleading, and Osco said, well,

830
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: I don't think it's straight. So we have now decided

831
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: that we need to have an official debate.

832
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, well where the cheerleading is straight or to convince

833
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: Otsico that it's straight. But before that, Otsco, I actually

834
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 3: would love it if you know, take take the idea

835
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: of straight or gay off your mind, and I just

836
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 3: want you to sort of tell us about your cheerleading past,

837
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: like where was it, what was it, like, how did

838
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 3: you get into it? Did you enjoy ages?

839
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 4: What type do you miss it?

840
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you're quote a cheerleader at heart

841
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: and comedy as your plan B.

842
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 5: I'm a cheerleader in like, that's like my perspective, you know,

843
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 5: I'm very like yes, and I'm always like you go girl,

844
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 5: you go get them, you know, I'm very like I'm

845
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 5: kind of like a little John two people.

846
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: Sure you know? Yeah, yeah, you're the little John of comedy. Yes,

847
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: you're saying that.

848
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 5: Well, even in my stand up, I talk about the

849
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 5: things I love. It's not me complaining about things things

850
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 5: I hate. No, it's like me defending even like the

851
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 5: live laugh love sign, because life is hard what we like.

852
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 5: I don't think you should judge anyone for being genuinely

853
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 5: stoked about something you know that. That's like, that's me.

854
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 5: So I think I am actually still a cheerleader, you know,

855
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 5: like at heart or you know, which whatnot. Our squad,

856
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 5: you know, some people, depending on where you grew up

857
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 5: in the United States, some people when they hear that

858
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 5: I was a cheerleader, They're like, oh, you were a jock,

859
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 5: you know, and I'm like, no, Like our squad was

860
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 5: like it was full of girls that were like, if

861
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 5: it wasn't for cheer I would have joined a gang,

862
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 5: you know.

863
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: And that.

864
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 5: Was my girls. It was like mostly Latinas and black girls,

865
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 5: and we were like self taught. It was like some

866
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 5: of the girls like boyfriends were part of the crips,

867
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, some of them had been

868
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 5: shanked before. It was it was like that Venice High

869
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 5: School in Los Angeles. Okay, oh yes, yeah, Venice is

870
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 5: like you know Venice. We were like the crips, and

871
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 5: then Culver City was like our rival. They were the

872
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 5: bloods and so like even the last day I our

873
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 5: graduation day, someone got shot on our campus, you know,

874
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 5: so it was like that it wasn't like bring it on,

875
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

876
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, so you were building community and like sort

877
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: of doing cheer.

878
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was also like a harm reduction model.

879
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: It was like these girls, you guys were at risk

880
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: youth and you are just like just like Hillary Swank

881
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: in that one movie taught kids how to a journal,

882
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 3: you guys were you guys were taught how to cheerlead

883
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: and that.

884
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 5: There was no Hilary Swank character.

885
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: I see. So it was community you have a it

886
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: was community based. You taught you taught yourselves.

887
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah, we yeah, we didn't even have a

888
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 5: coach until like our third year, and it was a

889
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 5: blonde woman that the school had hired from a gym

890
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 5: nearby who was like a weightlifting teacher. She didn't know

891
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 5: anything about cheerleading, but they were like, she's blonde, I

892
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 5: think that's what you're supposed to do. So she just

893
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 5: kind of like chaperoned us if we had to go

894
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 5: away to games.

895
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: And was this a did you do any form of

896
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: like competitive cheerleading or was it always cheerleading a sports

897
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: game that boys were playing.

898
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was cheerleading a sports game.

899
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

900
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 5: So no, there was no way we would not be

901
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 5: able to even get into the competitions like one like

902
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 5: one person could do a no headed cartwheel that we

903
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 5: were so self taught. That person was me, Oh.

904
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 4: Congratulation, Ariel, were you chair captain?

905
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: No?

906
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 5: No, I I helped choreograph a lot of the dances though,

907
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 5: because I you know, I I had like taken dance

908
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 5: classes since I was a kid, and yeah, I liked choreographing.

909
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 5: So yeah, okay I did do that. Yes, yeah, So

910
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 5: so straight or not?

911
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we can, I think sam Andi, I think

912
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: Samuri can like attempt to make our argument for why

913
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 3: we think it's straight, and then we can have you respond.

914
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: How does that sound?

915
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

916
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: Well, I mean obviously yours sounds like a very unique experience.

917
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 5: It's gonna get dicey because okay, I already I would

918
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 5: love to hear why you guys think it straight, because

919
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 5: sometimes it could get dicey. Sure if you're going to

920
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 5: bring up gangs, because then it could get into race

921
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 5: instead of you.

922
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: I don't you guys do something? You guys, gangs are

923
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: the last thing on my mind. Right, So it is

924
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: so funny that gangs have already come up, because when

925
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: I think cheerleading, I don't think gangs, like just on

926
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 3: the very basic level. And Sam can you know build

927
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 3: off of this. What I'm the reason I think it's

928
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: a straight topic in a very obvious way is because

929
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: of its portrayal and pop culture. It's always like football boyfriend,

930
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: cheerleading girlfriend. The cheerleaders are the most girly, feminine, popular girls.

931
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: They are blonde, maybe they have pigtails or a ponytail.

932
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 4: They are the pop stars of the school.

933
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: They are the pop stars of the school. They are

934
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 3: also like bullies, and they bully the more like alternative

935
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 3: you know goth girls that maybe are artists.

936
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 2: They well, they're literally encouraging you to get in line

937
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: and support the team. Yes, like stopping altern support.

938
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: They're based. They're also like they are the precursor to

939
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: being a PR girly because what cheerleaders are.

940
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 4: Cheerleaders are hired.

941
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: PR for the football team, and what the football team

942
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: is is basically the United States Army. So if you

943
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: are a cheerleader, that means your role is to put

944
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 3: a kind feminine face on something evil, which is men

945
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: taking a running start and hitting their head hard on

946
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: their rival's forehead. Yeah, so it's like and then getting

947
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: really bad brain damage from it. So if you're a cheerleader,

948
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: you are complicit in a really really awful way in

949
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 3: crimes against people's health, in warlike in warlike culture, and

950
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 3: in the military industrial complex.

951
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: I mean, George, you really really nailed that. Thank you

952
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: have to say. I'm like trying to think of like

953
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: what you might have missed, and quite frankly, I have nothing.

954
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 5: Don't you think? Also for me as a cheerleader, though

955
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 5: no one was listening to us, And it's actually a

956
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 5: very unhinged sport because we're out there. We're out there

957
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 5: being like, you go, girl, you got this, when we

958
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 5: have no say in the game. Yes, we literally aren't

959
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 5: playing the game.

960
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 3: But that's where the pr thing comes in. It's like,

961
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: it's like being hired to write Let's say you're hired by,

962
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: you know, a political candidate to write messaging. It's like

963
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: you're not in charge of what the actual policies are.

964
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 3: Your job is to sell them. The policies might be

965
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: you know, violent, right wing whatever, but it's your job

966
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: to sell them. And that's what you guys are doing.

967
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: Like you have no control over whether they win or lose.

968
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, But nobody's buying us because this is what

969
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 5: would happen. Okay, our team would be losing, Like so

970
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 5: like we're at zero points and we still have to

971
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 5: be out there being like we go, girl, we got this.

972
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 5: We just look demented and the crowd knows it. We're

973
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 5: screaming at the players like trust us, bitch, like we're

974
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 5: like we're gonna win.

975
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: No we're not.

976
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 5: We've never won.

977
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: Well, this really brings up something interesting and sad, even

978
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: where it's like when do you just give up as

979
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: a cheerleader because your your whole thing sort of depends

980
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: on the hope that you could win. And if there's

981
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: no hope.

982
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 5: You still have to You still have to do the

983
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 5: same messaging when the proof is right in front of

984
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 5: your eyes. So I don't know how much propaganda we're

985
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 5: able to do actually when it's like, well, girls, we

986
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 5: can see our team sucks, and we're still doing I'm

987
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 5: doing aerial after aerial after arial because no one else

988
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 5: has a trick. I'm tired by the end of every game.

989
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 5: I have corn rows in my hair because the black

990
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 5: girls on this squad were like, girl, we give you permission,

991
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 5: We're going to do it on you, Okay. So I'm

992
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 5: out there just trying to make friends as an immigrant

993
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. That's what cheer leading meant

994
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 5: to me. And so whether whatever messaging I was promoting,

995
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 5: okay I was. I was dizzy by the end from

996
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 5: the arials. I still had corn rows and our team

997
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 5: still lost.

998
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm hearing I'm hearing the queer argument.

999
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why.

1000
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hearing the queer argument.

1001
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 4: It's female friendship first and foremost.

1002
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: And it is also like like hope in the face

1003
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: of so much loss exactly, Like it's kind of like

1004
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 2: still believing that like we can destroy capitalism, yes, when

1005
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: it's like everything points to like no, we can't, Like

1006
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: we're losing.

1007
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: So where did you hear? We heard it?

1008
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 4: We all heard it.

1009
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 3: And I think here's what I'm thinking. It's honestly, it's

1010
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: like there's a literal war going on right next to you,

1011
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: and you guys are making little zines with poetry like

1012
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: it's the it's the naivete of thinking that you doing

1013
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 3: a backflip could in any way help the team do

1014
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: better or and there's something sort of I think the

1015
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 3: the the act of being on the sidelines is very queer,

1016
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: like the act that it's like this is this is

1017
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 3: mainstream culture.

1018
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 4: This is stray culture over here.

1019
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 3: What's happening, which is the football players, it's the coach,

1020
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: it's even the people watching. The people watching are also

1021
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: part of the mainstream culture. And then you're coming in

1022
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: and you're sort of this like side show. It's like

1023
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 3: you're doing so in that sense, you're doing off Broadway.

1024
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 5: A little bit. We all just want to be on stage.

1025
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 5: We want to be in theater. But you know, theater

1026
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 5: was expensive, and I mean so was cheerleading. But we

1027
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 5: had you know, we had like car washes and stuff

1028
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 5: like that. We raised money. But I wonder why we

1029
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 5: had to audition to get into theater. Not all of

1030
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 5: us could sing and stuff like that.

1031
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: Did you not have to try out to get into

1032
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: the cheerleading squad?

1033
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 5: We did, But know it was very like can you

1034
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 5: do a.

1035
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 3: Cart with yeah that spirit? Yes? Sure? Sure? And then

1036
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: were there men? Yeah?

1037
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: Were there men?

1038
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 5: They're actually were not on arsen not.

1039
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: On your squad?

1040
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that checks out.

1041
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: Here's my question for you, Sam, as someone who grew

1042
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 3: up in what I envision as like an all American environment,

1043
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 3: you know with whatever that entails. Sure, and I know

1044
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: what my answer is to this. Did the actual reality

1045
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: of the cheerleaders at your school fit in with the

1046
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: pop culture image we have of cheerleaders. Were they in

1047
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 3: fact the popular girls?

1048
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: I think for my for the school I went to

1049
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: in Michigan, which was a much whier school, that was

1050
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: the case, okay, Like it was a very like how

1051
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: the media depicts high school is true, like the high school,

1052
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: the cheerleaders are popular, the jocks are popular, and like

1053
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: it trickles down from there and then But then when

1054
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: I went to Virginia High School, which was much more

1055
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: black school, it was like not necessarily the case, like

1056
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: it was way more like less clear who was like

1057
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: popular and who was not.

1058
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: Okay, interesting because I would say the years that I

1059
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: spent and this was middle school, because then you know,

1060
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 3: I was in America high school. But in middle school

1061
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: I was at like a relatively white high school. It

1062
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: was like sort of suburban Northeast. I would say. The

1063
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 3: popular girls played like field hockey and lacrosse and maybe

1064
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 3: even soccer. Like the popular girls also were expected to

1065
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: be athletic in this way, and it was the they

1066
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 3: were expected to be like athletic slash preppy. It was

1067
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: like lacrosse and they had little bows in their hairs.

1068
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 3: And the cheerleaders. There was something sad about the fact

1069
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 3: that they weren't the popular girls, but they thought that

1070
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: cheerleading would be an avenue into popularity.

1071
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 2: Well interesting, you know what I mean, Like it.

1072
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: Wasn't they weren't they weren't I mean I think you know,

1073
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: it was a mixed bag. Maybe some of them were

1074
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: also popular, but it was not in any way like

1075
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: cheerleading equals popular. I would say the most popular girls

1076
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: were doing the like white people's sports.

1077
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 4: Oh that is really interesting.

1078
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: I feel like we didn't have lacrosse and field hockey

1079
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: and those sports at my school. Yeah, it's very I

1080
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: think maybe that's yeah.

1081
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, it depends on what where the money is being

1082
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 5: sent to totally. Yeah, right, where they invest what sport

1083
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 5: they invest in. So our school also had golf, Like yes,

1084
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 5: like the rich white people's sports like golf and swimming.

1085
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 5: Those were actually the more popular kids. So they were white. Interesting,

1086
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, it's where like the richer.

1087
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 5: It's just like, uh, how the world works. You know,

1088
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 5: it's like wherever there's money, you know what I mean.

1089
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: Well, and that is the bigger through line is what

1090
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: I've always said is like, whoever had the most money

1091
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: in high school was the most popular one.

1092
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: I also, actually I am not realizing the money thing.

1093
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 3: If you have money, you are or if you even

1094
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 3: like grow up in an environment where you are feeling

1095
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 3: competitive and you're feeling like I'm gonna get into Harvard

1096
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna do what. You're much more likely as

1097
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: a girl to play a sport that will help you

1098
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 3: along those lines than you are to sign up to

1099
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: be you know, just holding pomp poms? Yeah, yeah, like

1100
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: you are basically a girl boss in training. You're like,

1101
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: lacrosse will lead to my my Dartmouth application essay, and

1102
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 3: then that will lead me to Goldman Sax Yes, exactly sure.

1103
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 5: And into world domination.

1104
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1105
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1106
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: Now let me ask you something out to go. What

1107
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: is your relationship with pomp poms?

1108
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 5: Well, we had them, and do I still own them somewhere?

1109
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 5: I don't know. They picked up dirt real easily.

1110
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah it was hard. Did you feel like when you

1111
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 3: pick them up you got excited and were like ready

1112
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: to go?

1113
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 5: What was I more excited about? I was more excited

1114
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 5: about doing the dances and the cheers, the pomp poms yeah,

1115
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 5: pomp poms were fine. We didn't use them that much

1116
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 5: for some reason.

1117
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 3: I'm asking because to me, that is something that is

1118
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 3: so that's what takes it into this almost like self

1119
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 3: mocking thing. It's like, if you don't have pomp poms,

1120
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: you're doing dance and you're doing gymnastics, and it's easy

1121
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: to argue like we are doing something that is actually challenging,

1122
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 3: it is a real sport. You suddenly add pomp poms

1123
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 3: to it, and it's like you're making fun of these people.

1124
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 3: Like it's like you're like a circus act. You're like, don't,

1125
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: don't take me seriously. I'm just kidding. Yeah.

1126
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 5: I wonder if that's why we didn't use them as much,

1127
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 5: because we also were trying to do stunts too, you know,

1128
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 5: like throwing girls, throwing girls in the air, you know, right,

1129
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 5: they had to do you know.

1130
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: You're doing that self taught. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

1131
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: so dangerous.

1132
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 5: Yes, but you know, you just I mean I was

1133
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 5: always on the bottom. I could never but the girls

1134
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 5: on the top were very light. They were very light.

1135
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 5: It's almost like they were flying themselves.

1136
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: You know.

1137
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 5: We just kind of threw and like hoped and then

1138
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 5: we would catch you.

1139
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 3: You actually had to pull them down because they were floating.

1140
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 5: They floating. Yeah, they were like, oh no, she's she's

1141
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 5: so light.

1142
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 4: They're much like me right now after my food poisoning.

1143
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, they all had food poisoning.

1144
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 5: Yes, oh she's so ready for the means, you know,

1145
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 5: and we had to Yeah, we had to bring them

1146
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 5: back down. I wonder if that's why because we were like,

1147
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, I think the pompoms is more decoration, honestly, honestly,

1148
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 5: and so yeah, so we didn't use that as much.

1149
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 5: I think about those girls a lot, you know, and

1150
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 5: uh yeah, like you were saying with like gold Man Sacks,

1151
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 5: you gotta do, Yeah, the cross takes you there. You know.

1152
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 5: For us, cheerleading was like it's like the save we

1153
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 5: got to save the community center down the street kind

1154
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 5: of energy. Yeah.

1155
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: The way that you're describing this chileading squad is very movie.

1156
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 2: It's very like cinema about like the rough and tumble

1157
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 2: squad that like has to then compete with the rich

1158
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: people and like they lose horribly, but like they win

1159
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 2: friendship and whatever.

1160
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 5: Right, there was friendship and also it was good because

1161
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 5: you know, I also was bad at academics to stay

1162
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 5: on the squad, you know, which meant a lot to

1163
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 5: us because it was community, it was friendship, and and

1164
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 5: also discipline because you had to keep a certain grade

1165
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 5: of course to stay on the squad. So that also

1166
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 5: forced us to like try not to fail in classes

1167
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 5: and stuff, which which was good. You know what I mean,

1168
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 5: it was kind of Yeah, it's like it's like a gang.

1169
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 3: You really keep you keep going back to the gang. Yeah,

1170
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 3: you really wanted to be a gang. You really want

1171
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 3: it to be a gang.

1172
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 5: I'm like good gangs were not mentioned during this debate

1173
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 5: about straight or not.

1174
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the only verson on earth who could connect

1175
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: chewing into gangs over and over and over.

1176
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 5: I mean, they did it. They're the ones that said it.

1177
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: It's funny. I'm now thinking about I think you bring

1178
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 3: it on, and I'm thinking about competitive cheerleading, and I'm

1179
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 3: also thinking about, you know, the recent the recent story

1180
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 3: about how the Texas Cowboys cheerleaders finally like reached a

1181
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 3: contract where they can be paid a living wage. And

1182
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking there is something so inherently tragic, like

1183
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 3: in a true like Greek tragedy way about the sport

1184
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:29,479
Speaker 3: of cheerleading because you are in this inherently supporting role,

1185
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: like no one is quote unquote there to see you

1186
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 3: if you are the cheerleaders for a sporting game that

1187
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: people are at, and.

1188
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 5: It's the only sport where you're supporting another sport exactly,

1189
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 5: people are actually there to see exactly.

1190
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 3: And so within this definitionally second class citizenship, you are

1191
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: fighting for rights. But it's so difficult to make the

1192
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: argument because of course you are not at the quote

1193
00:56:55,719 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: unquote at the level of the athlete, because you're by

1194
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 3: definition the one supporting them, like you are literally there

1195
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: to cheer them on. But then you still deserve you know,

1196
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 3: higher pay and equal rights, and so you are in

1197
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 3: this bind where you will never actually reach equality. And

1198
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 3: it almost like mirrors, truly mirrors like the struggle of

1199
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: women throughout history.

1200
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: Well, there's something about like the way cheerleading was founded,

1201
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: because I do think the place where cheerleading is now

1202
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: it is a sport if you're like doing like the

1203
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: competitions are insane, and the way they have to be

1204
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: so good at it is insane.

1205
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 5: It's wild because you're cheering nobody. You're cheering nobody.

1206
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: You're like performing what it would be like to cheer

1207
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: someone on, Yes.

1208
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 5: Exactly, just it's just your mom's in the crowd because

1209
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 5: they drove you there. Yeah, and you're still doing full

1210
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 5: blown routines. Go go, go, generally go you who are

1211
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 5: you pumping up? Just generally? Everyone feel good? That's wild.

1212
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: Well, it's like and the whole thing is like flawed

1213
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: from like from birth, Like they've tried to take this

1214
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: thing and be like it's you know, in the fifties,

1215
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 2: it's like the girls cheering on the boys, and then

1216
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, over time it's become a genuine sport,

1217
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: but it's still based in two boys people.

1218
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 4: So it's like you have to like erase the past.

1219
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 2: You need to like restart, Julie, do you know what

1220
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 2: it reminds me of now it's just dancing gymnastics.

1221
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: It reminds me of beauty pageants because beauty pageants are inherently,

1222
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 3: you know, just on a literal level, misogynistic. If it

1223
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 3: is a competition for who's most beautiful, of course that

1224
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 3: is you know, a sexist event. But as they have

1225
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: evolved along with the times, it becomes a scholarship, it

1226
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 3: becomes also an interview portion where you prove that you

1227
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: are smart and worldly and thoughtful, and so then you're

1228
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 3: sort of are in this midway point where you can't win,

1229
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 3: Like you can't can't argue that it's good, and you

1230
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 3: can't argue that it's bad and you're not getting paid.

1231
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you still have to be hot.

1232
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 3: It exactly at the same time, it's like you have

1233
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: to be hot, but then you also have to be

1234
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 3: constantly talking about how amazing it is that you are

1235
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 3: in such a diverse group of people that are all hot.

1236
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, totally, totally. Yeah. Yeah, it's a you know,

1237
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 5: it's a it's just for show. It's a vibe. It's

1238
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 5: a vibe, and I think.

1239
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 3: That's actually the that's the gayest thing about it. I

1240
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 3: would say it's like the theater element of it, the

1241
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 3: costume element of it, the pom poms, the pageantry of

1242
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: it is very queer. But the fact that it is

1243
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: a barnacle on the side of like the NFL, is

1244
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: what makes it straight.

1245
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: Right right right barnacle. Yeah, Okay, here's what I'm imagining.

1246
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 4: Hear me out.

1247
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: This is a okay, so the same that you had

1248
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: your like girl friendship gay guys in high school need

1249
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 2: an outlet as well, And I think they almost need

1250
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: an anti cheerleading squad where they can like spread rumors

1251
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 2: and lies about the opposing team and potentially like bring

1252
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: the vibe down a lot and be like maybe like

1253
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: a school Twitter account or something and just like spray

1254
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 2: like rancid lies about the other team, and then they

1255
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: could all connect and have something to bond over.

1256
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 3: You're saying, you know, cheerleaders are, as we've said, publicists,

1257
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: but what we need is bloggers.

1258
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 2: Literally, that's it, right, Every school needs its own gawker.

1259
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, are their uniforms too though, Yeah, Uniclo.

1260
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 4: Is going to make the uniforms.

1261
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Uniclo is going to make the uniforms. Are going

1262
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 3: to be really boxy.

1263
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 5: Oh my god, let them shine, let them soar. These bloggers, you.

1264
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 3: Know from experience, bloggers are not allowed to shine. They

1265
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 3: have to remain in their basement and there on their keyboards.

1266
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 5: So the gays are just still like like locked indoors,

1267
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 5: not there.

1268
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 4: But they can't be fabulous. They are.

1269
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 3: They're like they're like Perez Hilton in his case, drawing, drawing,

1270
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 3: Come on on, Misha Barton, and.

1271
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 5: The positive is hey, at least you get to be

1272
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 5: gay exactly. At least it's you. At least it's your

1273
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 5: authentic self. But you can't go outside, yeah and want

1274
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 5: to be doing dances.

1275
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: Nope, Nope.

1276
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 4: For many, grab the computer, baby.

1277
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 3: For many gays, being on the computer and being mean

1278
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 3: is being their authentic self much more than you know,

1279
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: whatever else the liberal media will have you believe.

1280
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 5: No, of course, of course, but all of them, what

1281
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 5: if I mean? And then some of them, you know,

1282
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 5: some of them want to be on the squad.

1283
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: Well, this is why it gets difficult to.

1284
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 3: We haven't even mentioned gay guys on the squad exactly.

1285
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: Well, of course, that's the craziest part of it all.

1286
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 2: Where it's like the way that the moment a guy

1287
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: is on the squad, his sexuality is called into the

1288
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 2: question in a huge way. And if he is straight,

1289
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a straight guy being in theater,

1290
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: where it's like, if he is straight, it's like, I mean,

1291
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: it's much worse, of course.

1292
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 3: Because a straight guy being in theater, at least you

1293
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 3: can be like, oh, that's a leading man, that's Marlon Brando. Yeah,

1294
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 3: there's no equivalent of a straight there's no a straight

1295
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 3: cheerleader role model.

1296
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 5: Wait, can I tell you though, there's four former I

1297
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 5: know a lot about this because I've talked about I

1298
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 5: talked about it a lot in my latest special. Actually,

1299
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 5: but there were four US presidents for former US presidents

1300
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 5: former of course.

1301
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: They're former four US president trum Trump, Trump and.

1302
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 5: Trump who were cheerleaders?

1303
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 3: Wow?

1304
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 2: Wait which ones? Which ones?

1305
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 5: So it was Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, and then

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Speaker 5: there was one more.

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Speaker 3: I mean, these are big, big ones, big ones, like

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Speaker 3: these are ones I've heard of. Let's say that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that is so surprising.

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Speaker 3: Wow. I actually do remember, you know when liberals and

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Speaker 3: Roosevelt sorry wow, oh FDR or other one? Oh my god, oh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah FDR yeah, FDR.

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Speaker 3: The Yeah, I do know about George W. Bush because

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Speaker 3: that was a classic case of liberals doing the thing

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Speaker 3: where they're accidentally homophobic to criticize the Republican, like people

1316
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Speaker 3: being like, you think this guy can run the country,

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Speaker 3: he's faggy. Oh wow, is that right?

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Speaker 4: Definitely, It's such a thing.

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Speaker 3: It's like when people used to like make jokes about

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Speaker 3: Trump and putin making out.

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Speaker 5: I know, it's so dumb.

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Speaker 3: It's like, take one breath and like think about what

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Speaker 3: you were saying.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, I know, well maybe there's something insidious about

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01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 2: a male cheerleader. Yeah, because you can, like because everyone's like, oh,

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01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: you're probably gay, where you can like almost like be

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Speaker 2: more evil. Well you can literally like are assuming you're

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Speaker 2: a cool gay guy.

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Speaker 3: Well that's why that's No, it is literally true. That's

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01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 3: why straight actors sexually harassed because they're literally they're there,

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01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 3: they're on set, no one's suspecting them. Suddenly they're sexually harassing.

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Speaker 4: You're supposed to be an actor.

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Speaker 3: You're supposed to be an actor.

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Speaker 4: Stop it. Wow, what an amazing point this is.

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Speaker 5: Well, well, so do we not choose? Yeah, what have

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01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 5: we decided? I mean, well, okay, how about this oddsicle?

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Speaker 5: What do you think based on the arguments you've heard today?

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01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 5: You guys made really really, really solid points.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm like, maybe it is just straight yeah, you know,

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01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 5: but I also don't want to take away from the

1342
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 5: fact that it's got so many elements that you know,

1343
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 5: are trying not to be the convention, right, and uh,

1344
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,479
Speaker 5: you know, maybe some of the community it's built. Also,

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01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 5: some of the girls on my squad were totally with

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Speaker 5: each other.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna say. This is one of

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01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 3: those classic instances where it is a straight concept, but

1349
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 3: queer people made it their own. And there's a story

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01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 3: of resilience in the face of so much prejudice and hardship.

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01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 3: And I think it's almost like how it's like how

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01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 3: gay people made Disney.

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01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: Gay Yeah, or like Survivor even or Survivor.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and I will ready okay that all right.

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Speaker 3: We did it.

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01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 2: We did it. Well, that's going to make saying we

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01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: should do our final segment.

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01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 3: Let's do a final segment.

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01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: Otsco a final segment. It's called shout outs, And in

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Speaker 2: this segment we payomash to the grand straight tradition of

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01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: the radio shout out, giving a shout out to anything

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01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 2: that we are enjoying. People, places, things ideas George and

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01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: I will go first, and I have one.

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Speaker 3: I have one too, Go ahead, you go first.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: What's up, theater goers and off Broadway aficionados. I want

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Speaker 3: to give a shout out to our friend Josh Sharp's

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01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 3: new off Broadway show directed by Sam Thinkleton called Tada.

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01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 3: It is at the Greenwich House Theater. I had the

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01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 3: privilege of going to opening night on my actual birthday.

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01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 3: That is how I chose to spend my birthday. It

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01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,919
Speaker 3: was absolute heaven. Jennifer Lawrence was there. I had seen

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01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 3: a version of the show two years ago, and I

1374
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 3: already thought it was great, but when I tell you it,

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 3: it was elevated into real capital t theater. And to

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01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 3: see someone essentially do an elevated version of PowerPoint comedy,

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01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 3: something we have seen so many times, and to pull

1378
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 3: it off so well, to have it be so nuanced

1379
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 3: and interesting and unexpected, and to not at all have

1380
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 3: to like let go of the gay guy comedy sensibility,

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01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 3: to just like commit to exactly who Josh is, and

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01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 3: to do it in a way that even Jennifer Lawrence

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01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 3: can enjoy. I thought was so incredibly impressive. It really

1384
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 3: felt invigorating and really inspirational, and I felt honored to

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01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 3: be his friend. And I just want to say, Josh,

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01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 3: you go Chica, and if you're in New York City,

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01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 3: I don't know how much tickets cost, but look it

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01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 3: up and go see Josh Sharp today. You will have

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01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 3: an amazing time. By the way, it's eighty minutes. If

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01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 3: you're worried about theater being three hours of these days.

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01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 3: You're gonna get and you're gonna get out. You're gonna

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01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 3: have dinner via Croda. You're gonna have an amazing night

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01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 3: in Manhattan. And I love theater, I love off Broadway,

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01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 3: and I love gay guys.

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01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: Whoo whoo. Well that was amazing seconded and I can't

1396
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 2: wait to see it when I'm back one day. Okay,

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01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: what's up freaks, losers and perverts around the globe. I

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01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: want to give a shout out to the TV show

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01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 2: Say Nothing. Through having food poisoning. I've been like, what

1400
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: TV show can I watch that doesn't step on what

1401
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: I watch with Misha, And I said, I don't think

1402
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 2: he wants to watch Say Nothing. So I've been watching

1403
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: Say Nothing. And let me tell you this show is

1404
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 2: to die for. First of all, Irish. Irish is trending.

1405
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: We all know this to be true. Second of all,

1406
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: you know, fighting an oppressive government. Baby, if you liked

1407
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 2: and or guess what Say Nothing is and or but Real,

1408
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 2: get this. It happens in real life too, much like

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01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: food poisoning and or but Real. All the performances are

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01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: to die for. I find it both inspiring and a bummer.

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01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 2: And it is so interesting and I'm only four episodes in,

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01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 2: but I can't wait to get deeper and deeper into

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01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 2: Say Nothing. Thanks FX for the amazing Prestige TV. Xoxo Sam.

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Speaker 5: Whoo wow, I prepped something that was wrong. I think

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01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 5: what is your I thought we were supposed to like

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01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 5: shout out something straight.

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01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 4: Oh, it's just anything that we like, but you can.

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01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 5: It was like, haha, shout out something straight.

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01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 3: And I was like, wait, I love that. I love

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01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 3: that you're shouting out something straight. Go for it. I

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01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 3: don't you want to? Well you can do it.

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01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 5: I can. Oh god, I thought this was like an

1423
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 5: ironic like shout out something straight.

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01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 4: It can be.

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01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 3: It definitely can be. I mean we've shouted out things

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01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 3: we hate in the past, we've shouted out things ironically.

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01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, perfect? Am I like the worst guest at all?

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01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 3: Actually I loved this episode and I loved debating cheerleading.

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01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 5: Okay, here I go. Okay, I mean I'm not good

1430
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 5: at this. Hey, hey, you over there, that's who I'm

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01:08:55,240 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 5: talking to. Yep, thanks for listening as Oh yep, and

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01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 5: it's Bippy me otsco okat Scott, your girl. I'm telling you,

1433
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 5: you know, I think Hayley Weaver. Her skin is so pretty,

1434
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 5: it's so beautiful, and her skincare is you know, I

1435
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 5: can't wait to try it. I just love looking at

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01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 5: I love looking at her face. I love her. I

1437
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 5: think it's cool. She what she built, you know, and

1438
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 5: then she sold it for I don't know, billion dollars.

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01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: I think so that was wild.

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01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 5: Hope she uses it for good. She definitely will, and

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01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 5: she will and uh, that's that's skincare for you.

1442
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 3: Wow. I love that shouting out road road skincare, and

1443
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:53,839
Speaker 3: they really need the press.

1444
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 5: That's what it's called road.

1445
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, one dollars, she uses it.

1446
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 3: Well, there's like no time to talk talk about this

1447
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 3: right now, But at some point we have to discuss

1448
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 3: the lie that is these companies. Yeah, the skincare thing

1449
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 3: must crumble, like I just simply, I simply don't believe it.

1450
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 3: Like you can convince me that Hailey Bieber is a

1451
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 3: successful entrepreneur, You can't convince me that Kylie Jenner like who.

1452
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 3: You cannot convince me that anyone is buying this stuff.

1453
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 4: I fully, George, I'm on board. I'm on board.

1454
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 3: I refuse to believe what Forbes dot com is telling me.

1455
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 3: None of these people are are billionaires.

1456
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 5: There's that many faces in the world that need these products, and.

1457
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 3: They believe Hailey Bieber. There's so many existing skincare companies.

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01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 5: I know, I know. I think it's right that you

1459
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 5: have to be so good at branding. I mean, she

1460
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 5: keeps her face moist, lolking her face.

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01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 3: Oh she is wet, wet, wet.

1462
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 5: Yes, and so you're like, okay, So I think that's

1463
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 5: the I think that's the key to look you know,

1464
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 5: in your twenties. But she is in her twenties and

1465
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 5: so you know, but that's how you sell, I guess.

1466
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 5: But there's drag queens, there's every pop star has a

1467
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 5: skincare line and makeup line. So it's hard to chew.

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01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 5: I guess that's one thing we spent a lot of

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01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 5: money on. I know, as humans is like our face,

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01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 5: you know.

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01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 3: It's tough. I recently did buy a lip mask that

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01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 3: Sydney Sweeney recommended and I'm loving it. Right.

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01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 5: See, we all get influenced when it comes to a face.

1475
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 5: It's the first thing people see about you.

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01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 3: That's true. So I don't know. Well, damn well for

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01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 3: another time, But I just want to say, this has

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01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 3: been such a pleasure, Otaco, and please tell people where

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01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 3: they can find your special, where they can find your work,

1480
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 3: where they can find you.

1481
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 5: I Oh, I'd be at Otsco Comedy on my Socials

1482
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 5: and then yeah, my latest special is on Hulu and

1483
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 5: Disney Plus called.

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01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 4: Father Beautiful, Wonderful. Well, thank you, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 4: It was so fun.

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