Speaker 1: Hey, it's me again.
Speaker 2: It's Jefferson White with a very special episode of the
Speaker 2: Official Yellowstone Podcast, presented by Win las Vegas. I woke
Speaker 2: up this morning extremely excited about today's show. You know,
Speaker 2: I didn't expect to get much sleep last night because
Speaker 2: I was so excited. However, the beds.
Speaker 1: Here extremely comfortable.
Speaker 2: They have these very very fancy shades that sort of
Speaker 2: block out all of the light of the strip.
Speaker 1: So I slept like a baby.
Speaker 2: And I'm very grateful because this is a huge, huge
Speaker 2: day for me. Today I get to sit down with
Speaker 2: the brains behind the entire world of Yellowstone. You've heard
Speaker 2: this man's name over and over again if you've been
Speaker 2: listening to this podcast, if you've ever had a chance
Speaker 2: to talk to the cast of Yellowstone, you hear the
Speaker 2: name Taylor Sheridan over and over and over again. Because honestly,
Speaker 2: this whole thing, this whole show, this whole universe, this
Speaker 2: whole world comes from Taylor. Taylor is the mastermind, the genius,
Speaker 2: the brilliant creator, writer, director, cowboy kind of the maestro
Speaker 2: behind Yellowstone. He's also my boss. He gave me the
Speaker 2: best job I've ever had in my life. He's been
Speaker 2: my boss for years now, so you can imagine how
Speaker 2: nervous I am to sit down and talk with my
Speaker 2: boss to interview my own boss. So, you know, pray
Speaker 2: for me, wish me luck. I'm also going to be
Speaker 2: spending time with the superstar executive producer of the Yellowstone World,
Speaker 2: David Glasser, another man without whom none of this would
Speaker 2: be possible. I owe the best job of my life
Speaker 2: to these two guys, Taylor Shared and David Glasser, and
Speaker 2: I can't thank them enough. We're going to dive right
Speaker 2: in right after this. I feel incredibly honored, incredibly lucky
Speaker 2: to have with us in the studio today, the busiest
Speaker 2: man in Hollywood who never sets foot in Hollywood, A
Speaker 2: guy who I think his work is honestly characterized by
Speaker 2: staying too busy to talk about it. Much so, Taylor Sheridan,
Speaker 2: the creator of Yellowstone, the creator of eighteen eighty three,
Speaker 2: Mayor of Kingstown, and many many, many, many more facets
Speaker 2: of a vast empire. Thank you so so much for
Speaker 2: being here today.
Speaker 3: How'd you get this job?
Speaker 2: A great question? I thought I was actually going to
Speaker 2: ask you that question, boss, How did I get this job?
Speaker 3: I said, who's doing the podcast? They said Jefferson and
Speaker 3: I said who. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, Jimmy. And I said,
Speaker 3: oh Jimmy. Fuck did Jimmy get a podcast? You have
Speaker 3: your own podcast?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: I was talking to Eric Nelson the other day and
Speaker 2: he said, we should send a picture of us to Taylor,
Speaker 2: and I say, he's not going to recognize me.
Speaker 1: That's a busy man.
Speaker 3: Hey. So you were in you were in Fort Worth
Speaker 3: a week ago for the celebrity cutting for the charity,
Speaker 3: the cancer charity. That's right. They do every year, which
Speaker 3: you won two years in a row.
Speaker 2: Now, that's right. Well, the trick is that I won
Speaker 2: when this year I won because you weren't writing, in
Speaker 2: wasn't writing, and Nick won the year that I didn't write.
Speaker 1: So this year I lucked out.
Speaker 3: No, you got a buckle two years in a row.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one, Nick, one
Speaker 2: in between because you were busy. You were busy making
Speaker 2: maybe the biggest television show in history.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, maybe the most expensive.
Speaker 2: How does it this is? I've seen the first two
Speaker 2: episodes of eighteen eighty three, and the thing that I
Speaker 2: think that you do that nobody else can do is
Speaker 2: hold these two seemingly contradictory things at the same time,
Speaker 2: which is the myth of the West, the legend of
Speaker 2: the West, and the brutal truth of the West sort
Speaker 2: of hand in hand. That's something that to me characterizes
Speaker 2: Yellowstone and very much characterizes eighteen eighty three. There's the
Speaker 2: myth and there's the reality, like nobody else can do it.
Speaker 2: Will you talk just a little bit about those two extremes,
Speaker 2: the romance tick idea of the West and the brutal
Speaker 2: truth of the West.
Speaker 3: Well, the romance everyone understands. We were taught it in
Speaker 3: schools and we've seen it in movies and TVs since
Speaker 3: movies and TVs shows were made. And there is a
Speaker 3: romance to it. There's a romantic notion to going somewhere
Speaker 3: new and discovering some new place that holds this this
Speaker 3: hopeful utopia. The reality is there were other people already
Speaker 3: living there that that really didn't want anyone else to
Speaker 3: come there because they were there and they'd been pushed there.
Speaker 3: So you know, if you're really going to and then
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that there weren't heroes that went west.
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean there weren't heroes that defied those who
Speaker 3: went west. But to really understand our history, you have
Speaker 3: to be willing to look at all of it and
Speaker 3: not blanketly say this whole group over here were victimized,
Speaker 3: this whole group over here where oppressors. It's it's not true.
Speaker 3: There were there were extremely desperate poor people in Central
Speaker 3: Europe and Eastern Europe and in the United States that
Speaker 3: were sold a lie that this land was open and free,
Speaker 3: and they were desperate and sought it. So they bought
Speaker 3: the lie, and then they went west, and by the
Speaker 3: time they realized it was not the truth, there was
Speaker 3: no turning back.
Speaker 2: And I feel like that contradiction is very present in
Speaker 2: characters in eighteen eighty three. So there's Sam Elliott's character, Shay,
Speaker 2: who has seen who has confronted this terrible truth to
Speaker 2: a certain extent, and kind of carries it with him
Speaker 2: everywhere it goes. It feels like it haunts him. And
Speaker 2: then there's Isabelle's character who is so new to this
Speaker 2: world and sees it as that romantic idea, and then
Speaker 2: it feels to a certain extent as though the show
Speaker 2: is the process of her learning the terrible truth. It's
Speaker 2: this slow process of being confronted with the brutal reality
Speaker 2: of what it takes to make that dream come true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, to a degree, yes, one hundred percent, and
Speaker 3: she learns a lot more. It's really it was. It
Speaker 3: was very interesting to tell the story of moving into
Speaker 3: an unknown place through the coming of age of a
Speaker 3: young woman and getting to you know, the further west
Speaker 3: you go, there is no rule of law, so all
Speaker 3: of the social convictions and moral codes and customs that
Speaker 3: help keep us in line don't exist. And what happens
Speaker 3: when that happens. Incredibly beautiful things happen, and horrific things happen.
Speaker 3: In Yellowstone, you have a group that is attempting to
Speaker 3: hold onto a code that they've lived by for a
Speaker 3: long time, as other people without a code come in
Speaker 3: or at least without their code, so they have similarities.
Speaker 3: I wonder if you picked up on any of the
Speaker 3: subliminal connections between the two.
Speaker 2: To keep uncovering those And I feel like thematically, I
Speaker 2: see these these sort of themes throughout a lot of
Speaker 2: your work. Right, there's like the narrative, like the contradictory
Speaker 2: and conflicting narratives to a certain extent, and yeah, that
Speaker 2: confrontation between narrative and reality. And I think, as you
Speaker 2: articulated a minute ago, the incompatibility of well meaning people
Speaker 2: with codes that they truly believe in and and seek
Speaker 2: to honor. You can have good people really trying their
Speaker 2: best to protect their families, and those those can come
Speaker 2: into conflict with each other and be mutually exclusive to
Speaker 2: a certain extent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree, and.
Speaker 2: It's amazing, I mean, just embodied. Also, those contradictions, you know,
Speaker 2: not to sort of obviously be a sort of dollar story,
Speaker 2: a dramatic here, but but the sort of Sam Elliott
Speaker 2: is the theoretically to John Dutton, this sort of world
Speaker 2: weary soldier who has sort of seen this code be
Speaker 2: tested and sort of fail, has fought through its failure
Speaker 2: many times and becomes.
Speaker 3: Lost everything he fought for. So what do you fight
Speaker 3: for when you've lost everything?
Speaker 1: And I guess Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then being presented with this new hope to a certain
Speaker 2: extent in the eyes of young people, of people who
Speaker 2: haven't had the same sort of you know, traumatic experiences
Speaker 2: over and over and again over the course of a
Speaker 2: long and painful life, and I especially then there's this
Speaker 2: this middle generation in eighteen eighty three that I maybe
Speaker 2: sort of lines up with Casey's journey in Yellowstone to
Speaker 2: a certain extent, So James Dutton's experience in eighteen eighty
Speaker 2: three of having lived one life, having seen terrible things,
Speaker 2: but still having an enough left to try for something better,
Speaker 2: to try to sort of escape the cycle of violence
Speaker 2: that he was exposed to in the Civil War and
Speaker 2: to seek, you know, freedom from that cycle.
Speaker 3: Yea, his venture west is a complete rejection of the
Speaker 3: society that he lived in. It's a refusal to even
Speaker 3: be a part of it anymore. So he went to
Speaker 3: a place society doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: And that's fascinating. Then also sort of embodied in the
Speaker 2: contradiction between his wife's character, obviously Margaret Dutton and her sister,
Speaker 2: who have these sort of different relationships to that society, right,
Speaker 2: different ideas, one diferent carryovers from that society of how
Speaker 2: a woman is supposed to be, of what what her
Speaker 2: role ought to be in society, and then how, you know,
Speaker 2: how Isabel Meae's character sort of is also coming into
Speaker 2: conflict with that and sort of figuring out for herself
Speaker 2: what her role can be here versus what it was
Speaker 2: in the life she knew before.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. No, she's going to a place to
Speaker 3: where all of the restrictions that existed to control everyone,
Speaker 3: to control women, to control people who didn't own land,
Speaker 3: to control people who weren't in power, they don't exist.
Speaker 3: And you get to decide. You get to decide who
Speaker 3: you are and how you live, and no rule controls you.
Speaker 3: The flip side of that coin is no rule controls
Speaker 3: anyone else out there too. So long time ago, million
Speaker 3: years ago, whenever, three million years ago, there were no rules.
Speaker 3: People took what they wanted to take when they wanted it.
Speaker 3: If they were strong enough to do it, they got it.
Speaker 3: If they weren't, they lost it. And as society grew,
Speaker 3: as people stopped running around and chasing food and started
Speaker 3: growing it more, we all had to live together in
Speaker 3: this place. We had to figure out rules of some form.
Speaker 3: Right now, some people figuring out rules, figured out rules
Speaker 3: to control others to get more stuff. Some figured out
Speaker 3: rules to try and make this little tribe work better.
Speaker 3: And it's been the same throughout history. And it's not
Speaker 3: unique to the United States or Europe, or Asia, or
Speaker 3: Africa or South America. It is human nature and it
Speaker 3: exists anywhere we go. If we go to Mars and
Speaker 3: someone sets up a village in Mars, they better make
Speaker 3: some rules, or somebody who doesn't respect rules, and that
Speaker 3: person is still going to cause problems, but now at
Speaker 3: least we have rules to control them. Or maybe someone's
Speaker 3: going to go to Mars and set up a lot
Speaker 3: of rules that make sure he's the king of Mars.
Speaker 2: That theme feels like it's present through all of your work. Effectively,
Speaker 2: that idea of code's rules trying to establish a system,
Speaker 2: whether it be through a state institution, you know, whether
Speaker 2: it be through like actual legal pathways or a kind
Speaker 2: of paralegal system code. You know, in the case of
Speaker 2: the characters of Mayor of Kingstown or of the Duttons,
Speaker 2: obviously their code is sort of legal adjacent, but obviously
Speaker 2: also it breaks the law consistently. That feels like a
Speaker 2: theme that sort of resonates throughout all of your work.
Speaker 3: To me, it's the most important theme, and we have
Speaker 3: not mastered it right. The rule of law and the
Speaker 3: laws of nature. We're bound by the laws of nature.
Speaker 3: There's nothing we can do about that. So we've created
Speaker 3: a rule of law to govern ourselves. And you're seeing
Speaker 3: right now an erosion and the rule of law in
Speaker 3: this country. And as a result of that, you are
Speaker 3: seeing the laws of nature play.
Speaker 2: Out and the sort of simultaneous as you articulated earlier,
Speaker 2: the beauty and possibility of freedom, the sort of ideal,
Speaker 2: the kind of paradise that freedom can represent, and the
Speaker 2: hell that freedom can represent, the sort of brutal reality,
Speaker 2: the most brutal truth. And especially in the very first
Speaker 2: moments of eighteen eighty three, the whole the way the
Speaker 2: whole series is framed, I think is fascinating. And the intro,
Speaker 2: the first sequence, she describes it is hell. She describes
Speaker 2: this west, this wild place, this place outside of the
Speaker 2: parameters of polite society, as hell. And then the next
Speaker 2: time we see her heaven.
Speaker 1: It's heaven exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's and that's Look, we're in Las Vegas, Okay.
Speaker 3: Someone right out there right now, just one hundreds of
Speaker 3: thousands of dollars, and he thinks this this is the
Speaker 3: greatest place on Earth. Two craps tables over. Someone just
Speaker 3: lost their mortgage. He thinks this is the worst place
Speaker 3: on Earth. What's different the way they interacted with it, that's.
Speaker 2: It so as you seek, as you see it.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if gambling is the best metaphor
Speaker 3: for that, right, because we're adding a certain element of luck.
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of luck to life. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of luck to life. Now, you make a lot
Speaker 3: of really bad choices, you're going to find yourself usually
Speaker 3: having bad luck. You make a lot of good choices,
Speaker 3: you're going to find yourself having a lot more good luck. Right.
Speaker 3: But we all know pretty bad people who have gotten
Speaker 3: real lucky, and I know some really good people who've
Speaker 3: been really unlucky. As is so deep, Jimmy, I thought
Speaker 3: we were going to talk about like the horses.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing. This is the thing that
Speaker 2: I think, I think is incredibly unique to you. There's
Speaker 2: a lot about the way that you write that I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody else does. And I think that that
Speaker 2: is in part what I respond to in your writing.
Speaker 2: It feels like there's an unflinching honesty and an unflinching
Speaker 2: willingness to confront some of the ugliest and most hideous
Speaker 2: contradictions of life, of like life at its most fundamental,
Speaker 2: you know, and then also on the other side, what's
Speaker 2: amazing is you also have the incredible ability to write fun, captivating, exciting,
Speaker 2: beautiful things, And I think that's a very difficult thing.
Speaker 2: So I guess I'm curious also as you seek to
Speaker 2: make these things as you in your life, the myth
Speaker 2: of your life, the narrative of your life, as you
Speaker 2: continue to explore that and live it out sort of,
Speaker 2: will you talk to me about the experience of reconciling
Speaker 2: your work, your work sort of staring into the abyss,
Speaker 2: as it were, with your work staring into Eden, staring
Speaker 2: into paradise?
Speaker 3: Is there a question in there?
Speaker 1: Barely barely? Boss?
Speaker 3: What the fuck was? I know?
Speaker 2: Listen, you got me trying to sound smart. Listen on Yellowstone,
Speaker 2: John Dutton is exploring a lot of different options to
Speaker 2: sort of economically save the ranch. And I look at
Speaker 2: you as as a man who is an advocate for
Speaker 2: the Western world, is a sort of diplomat on behalf
Speaker 2: of the Western world to a certain extent, explors a
Speaker 2: lot of different avenues to continue to economically reinvigorate the
Speaker 2: Western world. Will you talk about some projects that you're
Speaker 2: working on that you're excited about.
Speaker 3: Well, this is this this beast right here's kind of
Speaker 3: consume me for the past nine months. So I don't
Speaker 3: beyond this, I don't I don't know what projects next.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen my mail and you know, since April.
Speaker 3: But but you know, I try to be an advocate
Speaker 3: for for the West. I grew up in it. It's
Speaker 3: an it's an incredible place, and it's changing, like everything changes,
Speaker 3: but we try to control the change. We try to
Speaker 3: mitigate the change. You live in New York, which is
Speaker 3: a great city. Uh and and and it's frustrating though,
Speaker 3: to watch Manhattan become because I lived in New York
Speaker 3: in the nineties, to watch Manhattan become this theme park
Speaker 3: of it itself to a certain degree, with these massive,
Speaker 3: expensive department stores, and in all the neighborhood last time
Speaker 3: I was there, it's been a few years, but all
Speaker 3: the mom and pop, all this great little diner over here,
Speaker 3: in this little cafe here, in this place, they're all
Speaker 3: gone because they can't afford the rent. No one could
Speaker 3: say that, well, they can't say it right now, but
Speaker 3: prior to COVID, they could say, well, the crimes, there's
Speaker 3: no crime in it's so clean, it's so great, and
Speaker 3: there's so many great restaurants that no one can afford
Speaker 3: to go to and there's no and there's but the city.
Speaker 3: It's not the city that we all grew up to
Speaker 3: the city we all in my youth, when I was
Speaker 3: there in my early twenties, and you're there now. It's
Speaker 3: in Brooklyn. It's migrated, right, Well, the West can't migrate.
Speaker 3: You build these places up. Then that's what they are, right,
Speaker 3: And whether we like it or not, we got to
Speaker 3: get our food from somewhere, and every empire falls when
Speaker 3: they start importing it. When you do not control your
Speaker 3: own food source, you are no longer an empire. You
Speaker 3: are buying your food from the next empire.
Speaker 2: Speaking of empires, right, the sort of horse world and
Speaker 2: the horse training sort of legacy history, tradition culture. Will
Speaker 2: you talk a little bit about that. That's something that's
Speaker 2: been increasingly explored in Yellowstone season four, as John Dutton
Speaker 2: and the Yellowstone sort of get into that game. Will
Speaker 2: you talk about your own experience in that world.
Speaker 3: Well, I grew up in and it was a dying
Speaker 3: It was dying after the recession of two thousand and
Speaker 3: eight because the performance horse world it's a luxury. Now
Speaker 3: there's people who make a living doing it, and you've
Speaker 3: met a lot of them, whether they're horse breeders or
Speaker 3: horse trainers or veterinarians who work in the performance horse
Speaker 3: world that are specialists, like basically sports medicine doctors for horses.
Speaker 3: But it's a luxury to own one and go show
Speaker 3: it on the weekend, not unlike people who own racehorses. Right,
Speaker 3: it's the racehorse trainer's job, it's the jobey's job, it's
Speaker 3: the exerciser's job, and the groomer's job. But it's not
Speaker 3: the owner's job. Owner rodes some big stinking company somewhere, right,
Speaker 3: and if the stock market crashes, he may have to
Speaker 3: sell his race horse, and so will all the others.
Speaker 3: But what and the same thing is true in cutting
Speaker 3: or reining or cow horse. But what happens is when
Speaker 3: that business isn't thriving and it starts to restrict the
Speaker 3: horses that get bread and the babies that you have,
Speaker 3: you start to see the quality of horse across the
Speaker 3: country dip because people are not as invigorated to explore
Speaker 3: as they're breeding these animals and making more horses. The
Speaker 3: more people who are in the horse business, the more
Speaker 3: horses you need, the more horses are bred not to
Speaker 3: the same horse, and the hybrid vigor of that makes
Speaker 3: a better horse population, better horses for the cowboys down
Speaker 3: the street, better horses for the little girl that's going
Speaker 3: to go barrel race or pole bend or do any
Speaker 3: kind of versatility events. So it improves the whole industry.
Speaker 3: And there's still no better way, say, and easier on
Speaker 3: the cattle way to work cattle than horses. Can't work
Speaker 3: them on dirt, Bikes can't. Dogs are too rough on them.
Speaker 3: They don't mind horses, and they move away from them
Speaker 3: when you go toward them, and that's how you move
Speaker 3: them around. They're not stressed by it. So I really
Speaker 3: wanted to and that's one of the reasons I wrote Yellowstone,
Speaker 3: because this whole way of life after that recession was
Speaker 3: crashing and all these generational ranches and that sounds like
Speaker 3: this big rich term, but it's not. It's somebody eighty
Speaker 3: years ago, ninety years ago bought a bunch of real
Speaker 3: cheap land that's pretty useless for anything but running cattle,
Speaker 3: because if you could farm it, you would, and they
Speaker 3: made a living selling cows. Not a lot of them do.
Speaker 3: You don't make very good money at it, and the
Speaker 3: land values kept going up and up and up and
Speaker 3: up and up until when they died and their kids
Speaker 3: inherited it, they couldn't afford the taxes, so they have
Speaker 3: to sell it. So then some guy from Chicago who
Speaker 3: went skiing there a few years ago, Man, I sure
Speaker 3: would love a place to go out in the weekend
Speaker 3: break my family go scan. So it gets carved up
Speaker 3: and developed and gentrified, and then they have that. Now
Speaker 3: it's a free country, right, So who's to say the
Speaker 3: guy in Chicago can't or shouldn't be able to buy
Speaker 3: a place out in Montana or Wyoming. Well, no, he should,
Speaker 3: but I'm trying to encourage him to not carve it up.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you have to run cattle out there,
Speaker 3: but how about you just go experience it. How about
Speaker 3: we preserve it because they ain't make it anymore. We
Speaker 3: have not figured out how to make more land and
Speaker 3: we never will.
Speaker 2: And it feels like, yeah, I mean an extension of
Speaker 2: your respect for this history, right, you as a remarkable
Speaker 2: historian to a certain extent of this world. And it's
Speaker 2: an incredibly exciting thing for me, as a fan of Yellowstone,
Speaker 2: for you to explore that history very literally with eighteen
Speaker 2: eighty three to step into that history. So I'm getting
Speaker 2: a signal that I think we're out of time. Thank
Speaker 2: you so so so much for doing this. It's an
Speaker 2: honor to as always continue to learn from you. I'm
Speaker 2: incredibly grateful for four and a half five years of
Speaker 2: learning from you now, and I can't thank you enough
Speaker 2: for the many ways in which you've changed my life.
Speaker 2: So thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, thank you for that.
Speaker 2: I can't thank Taylor enough for stopping by today. That
Speaker 2: man's time is very, very valuable, and I'm grateful for
Speaker 2: every second of it I get. Every time I talk
Speaker 2: to him. I learned so much. I look up to
Speaker 2: Taylor so much. I've been learning from him for years,
Speaker 2: and every minute with him is a masterclass.
Speaker 1: So I'm very very grateful. I need to take a
Speaker 1: quick break.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to continue to talk
Speaker 2: behind the scenes with executive producer David Glasser. I feel
Speaker 2: so lucky, so humbled, so grateful to have today in
Speaker 2: the studio with me.
Speaker 1: David Glasser.
Speaker 2: David Glasser is an executive producer of Yellowstone of eighteen
Speaker 2: eighty three of a million other television projects in the
Speaker 2: Taylor Sheridan universe and beyond. He's the CEO of One
Speaker 2: on one Studios. David, thank you so so so much
Speaker 2: for being here today.
Speaker 4: Thanks so much, my friend. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: It's such an honor and simultaneously a terrifying pressure to
Speaker 2: interview your boss's boss's boss's boss's boss.
Speaker 4: So now it's all good man. I could not be
Speaker 4: more excited to be here and so proud of everything
Speaker 4: you're doing. And you know, this journey we've been on
Speaker 4: from the beginning has been incredible, man. And right back
Speaker 4: at you, I could not be more proud of you. Man,
Speaker 4: everything you're doing, the character, you know, everything you've taken
Speaker 4: us on and in this show. Right here, you know,
Speaker 4: sitting here at the Wynn Hotel doing a podcast on
Speaker 4: Saturday afternoon, couldn't be a better day.
Speaker 2: I think it really speaks to something that I'm It
Speaker 2: just sort of strikes me over and over again. And
Speaker 2: for folks listening who don't necessarily understand the role of
Speaker 2: a producer, a producer means a lot of different things
Speaker 2: in a lot of different situations. Basically, so will you
Speaker 2: talk for just a second about your and It's hard
Speaker 2: to talk about because it means so many different things,
Speaker 2: and you, particularly more than anybody I've ever known, fill
Speaker 2: a lot of different roles under a lot of different circumstances.
Speaker 2: We just talk a little bit about your role in
Speaker 2: all of this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's Look, it's an incredible and very
Speaker 4: humbling opportunity to get because when you have a creator
Speaker 4: like Taylor Sheridan, he's a big picture visionary, right, He's
Speaker 4: got this huge idea, he's got this incredible cast, and
Speaker 4: then my job is to make sure that we execute
Speaker 4: upon that, right. So it's everything that goes into it,
Speaker 4: from making sure that we stay on budget, we get
Speaker 4: our locations, we get things done, you know, the sort
Speaker 4: of relationship with the network and sort of just spending
Speaker 4: plates and managing it all. So at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, what everybody gets to see this incredible number
Speaker 4: one show now comes with sort of being part of
Speaker 4: this team. And it's really a team effort, right. It's
Speaker 4: it takes a village to do what we do. And
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter whether you're at the top of the
Speaker 4: food chain or a pipa on our set. You know
Speaker 4: you've been there and working on a Taylor Sheridan show.
Speaker 4: It's not about I, it's about we, and it's not
Speaker 4: about me, and it's about how do we do things
Speaker 4: as a team. And that's the really, I think, the
Speaker 4: great thing, and so I'm super lucky to be part
Speaker 4: of that. And as you know, every time we get
Speaker 4: one of these scripts, it's like, you know, the greatest
Speaker 4: day of my life. It's like I'm working on some
Speaker 4: of the greatest material I've ever read.
Speaker 2: What, as you described, so much of it is a
Speaker 2: team effort. It's about an ensemble of collaborators. And one
Speaker 2: of your roles particularly is as symboling that team is
Speaker 2: taking these elements, these elements that can seem sometimes almost
Speaker 2: irreconcilably far apart, right the world of cowboying all these horses,
Speaker 2: right like putting together all of these cows, these cattle,
Speaker 2: with these helicopters, with these legendary actors, with these incredible
Speaker 2: technicians in our camera department. It feels like one of
Speaker 2: the unique challenges of Yellowstone is assembling a lot of
Speaker 2: different elements that don't traditionally fit together. And it feels
Speaker 2: like part of the people response to yellows notice about
Speaker 2: these things is seeing these these these elements combined on
Speaker 2: television for the first time on a scale that wasn't
Speaker 2: possible until you started doing it.
Speaker 4: Well, look, that's the exciting part about it. You know,
Speaker 4: as a producer, you get to do different things right,
Speaker 4: You almost get to make yourself up as a completely
Speaker 4: different person as you sort of go forward. You know,
Speaker 4: it was a world that I didn't know. And with
Speaker 4: Taylor Sheridan, as you know, you get a very quick
Speaker 4: education on what to do, what not to do, and
Speaker 4: where are the pitfalls. You know, he is the expert
Speaker 4: when it comes to the cows, the cattle. My job
Speaker 4: is to make sure that everything is getting there. It
Speaker 4: gets done when it is. But listen, I've I've learned
Speaker 4: the world. I've learned to actually respect the world at
Speaker 4: the highest level because it's truly incredible. I love our
Speaker 4: wranglers and our cowboys and the people that I've met
Speaker 4: both on the show and off the show. And even
Speaker 4: in one late night, maybe slightly drinking night with Taylor,
Speaker 4: I ended up buying a cutting horse, which we now own.
Speaker 4: So we own a cutting horse, and I think, you know,
Speaker 4: it was great because we made it the futurity on
Speaker 4: the first time, so it was like it was great
Speaker 4: because I really thought I actually knew what I was doing,
Speaker 4: but it was a little bit of luck. But you know,
Speaker 4: it's one of those things where I think, as you
Speaker 4: sort of you know, as you know, you get into
Speaker 4: a new world like this, it's all brand new, and
Speaker 4: so I think sort of watching Taylor's lead and following
Speaker 4: it and sort of figuring out, Okay, what does he need,
Speaker 4: how are we going to do it, and how we're
Speaker 4: going to execute what he wants and that's the job,
Speaker 4: right And we've learned so much now we're now you know,
Speaker 4: not everybody is a is a cutting champion like you,
Speaker 4: my friend after last week at the at the Caarity event,
Speaker 4: so you know, don't worry. We all know where you're
Speaker 4: going in your cutting career.
Speaker 2: I thank you so much. You were contractually obligated to
Speaker 2: mention that, and I thank you for obliging that that
Speaker 2: contract as.
Speaker 4: Sheridan's will be very happy.
Speaker 2: As I talked to all these different actors and sort
Speaker 2: of crew involved in these shows, something that comes up
Speaker 2: over and over again is the immersive quality not just
Speaker 2: of the content itself, not just of the show, but
Speaker 2: also the experience of working on the show. Working on
Speaker 2: these shows means being fully immersed in a world that
Speaker 2: is new to a lot of us. Right for us,
Speaker 2: it means being in Montana, it means being in West Testing,
Speaker 2: being in West Texas, being surrounded by the world even
Speaker 2: as you create it. So will you speak about your
Speaker 2: experience also of traveling with these shows, of really being
Speaker 2: immersed in these worlds.
Speaker 4: Look, I think you know, starting with Cowboy Camp that
Speaker 4: most people want I explain what Cowboy Camp is. It's
Speaker 4: sort of Taylor's version of, you know, leaving the city behind,
Speaker 4: getting out there and sort of being one with the
Speaker 4: worlds who really understand it for you as an actor,
Speaker 4: but even for us producers and partners on the show.
Speaker 4: So sort of everybody can sort of do what they can.
Speaker 4: But I think the experience is part of what I
Speaker 4: think makes the show what it is. We're all out
Speaker 4: there right on Yellowstone, We're out on that ranch or
Speaker 4: in those fields, you know, deep in those fields on
Speaker 4: a daily basis, working together. You know, we're not in
Speaker 4: we're not on a stage somewhere. You know very little
Speaker 4: of that. And on eighteen eighty three, that journey was
Speaker 4: something that was was definitely something I don't think I
Speaker 4: was ready for I think even for Taylor he was
Speaker 4: ready for it. He warned us what it was going
Speaker 4: to be. But taking a wagon train in the eighteen
Speaker 4: hundred show with thirty wagon trains across America is pretty spectacular,
Speaker 4: and there's no cover sets. We maybe had a few
Speaker 4: days of cover sets, and a cover set is a
Speaker 4: place you can go to when it rains, when it snows,
Speaker 4: when it's ninety eight degrees outside. Once we got outside
Speaker 4: of Fort Worth, that was it. We were open to everything,
Speaker 4: and so in a way it sort of felt like
Speaker 4: you were connected to maybe what people went through at
Speaker 4: that time, and they had such a harsher journey than
Speaker 4: we had, you know, crossing rivers, surviving to sort of
Speaker 4: make something better for your family. So in a weird way,
Speaker 4: you had a moment to sort of think and go, wow,
Speaker 4: this is we're sort of out in the open here
Speaker 4: just trying to figure it all out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that a lot of what people respond to,
Speaker 2: what I respond to when I see the show, especially
Speaker 2: as I watch eighteen eighty three, is this incredible feeling
Speaker 2: of authenticity that can't help. It's a part of the
Speaker 2: product because it's a part of the process. It really
Speaker 2: the process of making the show mirrors the experience that
Speaker 2: you're depicting on the show. You're taking a bunch of
Speaker 2: people from all over the world, incredible people with varied
Speaker 2: and diverse skill sets and backgrounds, many of them who
Speaker 2: have never set foot in West Texas before, and then
Speaker 2: many of them who have, who grew up there and
Speaker 2: who are experts in this world. And you're cooperating together
Speaker 2: on this journey that lasts from months and months and
Speaker 2: is arduous and taxing and difficult, and that bleeds into
Speaker 2: every frame of the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that was the incredible part. And
Speaker 4: I think you really you and your character symbolized it
Speaker 4: last year with the journey to the Four Sixes, you know,
Speaker 4: the most authentic storied ranches in the world since the
Speaker 4: eighteen hundreds, I mean, you know, and no way Taylor
Speaker 4: sort of blended that into our sort of not real
Speaker 4: ranch world of Yellowstone, which is, you know, a real
Speaker 4: world for TV and sort of taking Jimmy's character to
Speaker 4: one of the most authentic ranches in America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. You know, there are those of us
Speaker 2: and one of the incredible gifts of the show is
Speaker 2: that for every actor from Los Angeles, there's a cowboy
Speaker 2: from New Mexico. And for every you know rancher from Montana,
Speaker 2: there's you know, a stunt coordinator from from the East Coast.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a sort of incredible combination. And one
Speaker 2: of the tremendous gifts of our show has been watching
Speaker 2: so many people run at these new challenges, these challenges
Speaker 2: that are utterly unique, kind of over and over again,
Speaker 2: with tremendous respect for the material, with a tremendous sort
Speaker 2: of trust and commitment to each other. Because part of
Speaker 2: what you described early are putting this team together. You
Speaker 2: guys are now You've made and you are making shows
Speaker 2: with this core group of collaborators from different backgrounds, different
Speaker 2: skill sets, who have grown to trust each other over time.
Speaker 2: How do you over and over again this is just
Speaker 2: as a fan of your work, of Taylor's work, you
Speaker 2: attract the best actors in the world. Like it's amazing
Speaker 2: for me. My favorite actors who I've followed since I
Speaker 2: was a kid, Billy, Bob Thornton, Aiden Gillen, obviously, Sam Elliott, obviously,
Speaker 2: Kevin Costner the most a combination of the most interesting
Speaker 2: and sort of storied actors. It's amazing they trust you
Speaker 2: and when they join this kind of project, they're putting
Speaker 2: a lot of faith in you.
Speaker 4: Look, I think, look everything at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: and you know, this being the incredible actor that you are,
Speaker 4: It all starts with the material. Right, material is the
Speaker 4: basis for everything. If you're going to build a house,
Speaker 4: it's your foundation, it's everything, right what you do inside
Speaker 4: of it, whether that's you know, whether that is you know,
Speaker 4: a different type of counter or marble or granted, whatever
Speaker 4: you do inside the house to sort of build it
Speaker 4: is something that you do in what you do. And
Speaker 4: so I think always everything starts with the material. And
Speaker 4: with Taylor's material, it is something as you know, it
Speaker 4: attracts incredible different people who want to come work on it.
Speaker 4: And also you have this incredible time with Taylor. Be
Speaker 4: like I'm just thinking about Billy Bob Thornton for that role,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, all right, let me call his manager
Speaker 4: and like you send over it and he goes yes,
Speaker 4: or you go like, I'm thinking about Tom Hanks for
Speaker 4: that role and you like call time that reads it
Speaker 4: goes okay. You know, it's like unbelievable. Like, so, I
Speaker 4: think it's it's his material. I have to give the
Speaker 4: credit rightfully due It's like his material is just something
Speaker 4: that everybody wants to come play a day, two days,
Speaker 4: five days, and to be part of. I mean, that's
Speaker 4: probably one of the most exciting things for me because
Speaker 4: when he wrote the role, He's like, I think I
Speaker 4: want Sam Elliott and I'm like, yeah, okay, well I'd
Speaker 4: score major points in my house with my wife if
Speaker 4: we had Sam Ellie. But I would love to work
Speaker 4: with Sam Lely. And then you know, Sam reads it
Speaker 4: and is like, yes, So I think his material is
Speaker 4: something that's fresh, it's original, it's different, and it's a
Speaker 4: world we don't get to see every.
Speaker 2: Day, and it has the gift of I think you
Speaker 2: guys balanced this so remarkably well combining these actors. You know,
Speaker 2: one of the themes of a lot of Taylor's work
Speaker 2: is that the American West and the sort of myth
Speaker 2: of the American West, the legend of the American West,
Speaker 2: coming into confrontation with the reality, the harsh truth of
Speaker 2: the American West. You know, the myth and reality colliding
Speaker 2: into each other. When I look at the cast of
Speaker 2: eighteen eighty three Sam Elliott, of course American legend, a
Speaker 2: myth unto himself, and then young actors, right and combining
Speaker 2: sam Elliot's experience expertise a lifetime in the West with
Speaker 2: Isabelle May, right, an actor new to this world who
Speaker 2: brings something utterly distinct and unique to it because she's
Speaker 2: new to it. Right, So will you talk a little
Speaker 2: bit about about discovering new talent or bringing on young
Speaker 2: actors into these projects.
Speaker 4: Look, that's always the thing, right, And Taylor and I
Speaker 4: have that conversation always. He sort of feels if he's
Speaker 4: going to bring some of the table, whether it's Isabelle
Speaker 4: may or Emma Laird or people that he's sort of discovered,
Speaker 4: he'll see somebody, you know, like he did with Isabelle.
Speaker 4: He hadn't really figured out and shaped the role yet
Speaker 4: he knew what it was going to be. But the
Speaker 4: minute he saw her, he knew she was the one.
Speaker 4: She was the one who was going to tell this
Speaker 4: story and he was going to sort of turn the
Speaker 4: traditional Western on its head a little bit with this
Speaker 4: sort of point of view through an eighteen year old's eyes,
Speaker 4: you know, going through sort of just becoming a woman
Speaker 4: and sort of finding herself as well as trying to
Speaker 4: protect her family. So I think the interesting thing about
Speaker 4: it is is, you know, because of his sort of
Speaker 4: background and being an actor, he sort of finds this
Speaker 4: way and we'll sort of have a conversation about finding
Speaker 4: so many fresh and new that we don't know yet,
Speaker 4: and that we get to sort of experience things. And
Speaker 4: I think when you watch Isabelle, I even feel, even
Speaker 4: five and ten times seeing a cut of something, I'm
Speaker 4: sort of discovering it with her. I don't know her.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know her personally, but I don't know
Speaker 4: her as her character. I'm sort of sold on who
Speaker 4: she is and what she's going to be, and I'm
Speaker 4: sort of following her on our journey. If she's feeling pain,
Speaker 4: I'm sort of feeling a little bit too. If she's
Speaker 4: feeling laughter, I'm feeling that. So I think that's the
Speaker 4: great part about it, right. You know, you and Jimmy,
Speaker 4: I remember when we were looking early on at reading
Speaker 4: for it, and you sort of I'll never forget they're
Speaker 4: sort of reading you did in the chair if you
Speaker 4: remember it, And you know, the minute Taylor saw it,
Speaker 4: he was like that guy. He's got what I'm looking for,
Speaker 4: and sometimes I don't know always get it. But Taylor
Speaker 4: Start has this way. He knows he can look in
Speaker 4: sort of the eyes, the face, the sort of character,
Speaker 4: and he knows that that's who I want Jimmy to be,
Speaker 4: or that's who I want this character to be. That's
Speaker 4: a talent, you know. At that point it becomes much
Speaker 4: easier because I think then audiences get to discover somebody
Speaker 4: new and be part of that discovering them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a real gift. And on the opposite
Speaker 2: side of the spectrum, it's the same gift. It's saying,
Speaker 2: who could possibly fill the roles of these walking legends? Right,
Speaker 2: Kevin Costner and John Dutton feel so synonymous in many ways,
Speaker 2: it's hard to conceive of anybody else playing that role
Speaker 2: because the character is himself a legend. He's a legend
Speaker 2: who carries a tremendous weight on his shoulders that everybody
Speaker 2: respects and has a sort of wary kind of relationship
Speaker 2: to it. And that couldn't be anybody but Kevin and
Speaker 2: I think that's on the opposite side of the spectrum,
Speaker 2: the incredible gift of excellent casting I can't help but
Speaker 2: sort of like glean a worldview from a lot of
Speaker 2: Tailor's work, because and I think it relates in a
Speaker 2: lot of ways to those that juxtaposition, Right, the extremity,
Speaker 2: there's the beauty, the sort of big scale epic, the
Speaker 2: the incredible action sequences, and then there's this incredible human, simple,
Speaker 2: quiet intimacy. And Taylor himself has an incredibly holistic approach
Speaker 2: to filmmaking. He's an amazing actor, he's an amazing writer,
Speaker 2: he's an amazing director, he knows everything about the camera department.
Speaker 2: He knows you know, he saddles, horses, rides like he
Speaker 2: sort of does all of this. Will you talk about
Speaker 2: as you produce Taylor's projects, as you're on set for
Speaker 2: Taylor's projects, what you carry from those projects into the
Speaker 2: other stuff you're working on.
Speaker 4: Look, I think it's a discipline. I really think I
Speaker 4: think he brings. You know, the cowboy world is about discipline, right,
Speaker 4: if you sort of think about where he came from
Speaker 4: and where he grew up and sort of what he
Speaker 4: has done his whole life. Right, it's hard work. You're
Speaker 4: up early, nobody's complaining, You're doing your thing, and you're
Speaker 4: getting it done right, because if you don't get it done,
Speaker 4: then you're letting other people down. And I think I've
Speaker 4: taken that with me and my sort of journey with
Speaker 4: him and sort of his ability is it's not about
Speaker 4: no or yes, it's about getting it done. And I
Speaker 4: think that's what I take with me in my lesson
Speaker 4: with him, of like when he wants something or he
Speaker 4: wants a certain a certain thing, my job is to
Speaker 4: get it done, is to figure out how to get
Speaker 4: it done for him, because that's the way of the
Speaker 4: way he sort of understands. And our world sometimes in
Speaker 4: the Hollywood business is not always like that, right, It's
Speaker 4: always about trying to figure out, you know, what we
Speaker 4: can do. So it's that management of sort of knowing
Speaker 4: exactly what he wants and getting it done. And I
Speaker 4: think that discipline stayed with me because you're sort of
Speaker 4: out there with him and you're doing on his terms,
Speaker 4: and his terms are, as you said, very smart. He
Speaker 4: knows what he wants, he understands it better than anybody,
Speaker 4: so I'm never going to argue with him, so I
Speaker 4: just have to figure out how to get it done.
Speaker 2: I also think he carries something with him you know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of language, a very sort of poetic
Speaker 2: lyrical language, both in Yellowstone and in eighteen eighty three
Speaker 2: about the inefficiency of this lifestyle in some ways, like
Speaker 2: cattle ranching in Montana. In Yellowstone, over and over again,
Speaker 2: it's revealed this is not the most profitable way to
Speaker 2: manage this land.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: It's not about numbers, it's not about necessarily profit, it's
Speaker 2: not about progress by any like demonstrable, quantifiable metric. Part
Speaker 2: of it is just a labor of love. It's about
Speaker 2: tradition and a labor of love. And I also can't
Speaker 2: help but apply that same idea to filmmaking, Like filmmaking
Speaker 2: is far from the most efficient way in the world
Speaker 2: to make money, right, It's a kind of radically inefficient way.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 2: It's a labor of love, you know. It's it's imagination,
Speaker 2: and it's sort of storytelling, and it's foundational I think,
Speaker 2: to people to share our stories. But it's also hilariously
Speaker 2: inefficient in so many ways.
Speaker 4: I mean, our business sometimes doesn't make sense. I mean,
Speaker 4: as I say here today with maybe my CFO and
Speaker 4: my partner the room, we'd like to say it makes
Speaker 4: us a ton of money and that's the way we
Speaker 4: always go into it. I'm a little crazier, you know
Speaker 4: sometimes with wanting to do something because it's super passionate stuff.
Speaker 4: But you got to find that happy meeting. It's not
Speaker 4: an easy business. And I don't think anything that Taylor
Speaker 4: goes into or we go into, is like this is
Speaker 4: going to be a home run, it's going to be
Speaker 4: the biggest show on TV. Now. We go into it
Speaker 4: because we think it's going to be something that we'll
Speaker 4: all really be really proud of. We don't know how
Speaker 4: it's audiences are going to take it. We don't know
Speaker 4: if people are going to watch it. And I think
Speaker 4: that's the incredible thing also of having a partner like
Speaker 4: you know, Viacom and Paramount Plus and the Paramount Channel.
Speaker 4: You know, they sort of have a belief. I mean
Speaker 4: they bought Yellowstone off of reading one script in the
Speaker 4: room on a handshake with Taylor and I and that
Speaker 4: takes commitment, right, that takes vision. They had no idea
Speaker 4: that was going to be the behemoth that it is today.
Speaker 4: So I think you have to have a lot of
Speaker 4: people believing in what you want to do to sort
Speaker 4: of get to make something happen the way you want.
Speaker 4: The actors have to sign up, the network has to
Speaker 4: sign up, we have to all sign up, and then
Speaker 4: we all kind of come into it and then we
Speaker 4: wait to see what happens. Amis read an article one time,
Speaker 4: I can't remember it was they analyzed all these jobs
Speaker 4: dentist if you do X plus Y equals you know Z,
Speaker 4: and all these jobs and the one job they never
Speaker 4: could figure out was the movie and TV business. And
Speaker 4: it just makes total sense, like anything can happen, anything
Speaker 4: can really work, and anything can't. So I think we're
Speaker 4: very fortunate, all of us, you know, with you and Taylor,
Speaker 4: to sort of have this incredible sort of everybody that
Speaker 4: does everything. I mean, we all know each other, right,
Speaker 4: We've all become this big family, and I think that's
Speaker 4: something really special. I think also for Taylor, he never
Speaker 4: set out to make TV his whole thing. At the
Speaker 4: end of the day, he always said to me is
Speaker 4: I don't want I don't want to do TV. I
Speaker 4: want to make ten hour movies. So let's go make
Speaker 4: a ten hour movie. If we can do that, I'll
Speaker 4: do it. Otherwise I don't want to do this, I said, Okay,
Speaker 4: let me think about that for a minute, and so
Speaker 4: we had to go into that without thinking everything that
Speaker 4: Taylor does is a ten hour movie. He wants it
Speaker 4: to be beautiful. He wants to be strong, he wants
Speaker 4: to be powerful, and what he wants it to be
Speaker 4: is authentic bumps and bruises at all. You know, his
Speaker 4: new show Mayor of Kingstown with Jeremy Renner is sort
Speaker 4: of portrait of prison life in this town, but it's
Speaker 4: with bumps and bruises and all. It's raw, and it's
Speaker 4: not going to be for everybody, but it is a
Speaker 4: great show because Taylor doesn't hold back on being as
Speaker 4: authentic and real as he can be. And that's the
Speaker 4: only way he knows. He doesn't know any other way like,
Speaker 4: and he's not gonna someone's not gonna take a note
Speaker 4: and say, dear Taylor, I think you should change that
Speaker 4: scene to this because it'll be better for you know,
Speaker 4: when we go ahead and play this in some foreign tarror. No,
Speaker 4: it's this is what you get. And he's serving up
Speaker 4: on a platter, and I think that's what makes him
Speaker 4: who he is.
Speaker 2: It really it's brutally honest, yeah, and working. You know,
Speaker 2: as you said, all of this stuff represents a lot
Speaker 2: of trust. It represents a sort of collaborative agreement to
Speaker 2: take a risk, and that trickles down throughout our entire cast,
Speaker 2: our entire crew. That trickles down I think from you
Speaker 2: and Taylor, you guys inspire hundreds of people to work
Speaker 2: their hardest, to believe in what you believe in. And
Speaker 2: I guess I just as the last thing I say
Speaker 2: as we as we run out of time here, because
Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for your time.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Is particularly shooting Season four of Yellowstone, to me, felt
Speaker 2: a little bit like it was uncharted territory. It was
Speaker 2: during the pandemic. It was the summer of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: All of us left our homes, our families on the
Speaker 2: strength of this trust. We all took that risk together,
Speaker 2: and it was it was both things. It was both
Speaker 2: a risk that we were taking. It was dangerous and
Speaker 2: difficult to leave our families behind, but it was also
Speaker 2: the you put back. You put six hundred people back
Speaker 2: to work. More than that, you guys took that weight
Speaker 2: upon yourselves. You protected the family that you had built
Speaker 2: for four years, and you put six hundred plus people
Speaker 2: back to work at an incredibly uncertain and difficult time.
Speaker 2: And I, for one no that I'll never forget it.
Speaker 2: You brought us all back to work, and you took
Speaker 2: care of us. You protected us, and you saw us
Speaker 2: from one side of that journey to the other.
Speaker 4: You know, look, I appreciate that. And I remember having
Speaker 4: the conversation with Taylor and we're sort of it was
Speaker 4: right in a high of COVID and he had written
Speaker 4: the scripts and we're sort of scratching our head what
Speaker 4: to do, and we're getting calls from crew my unemployment's
Speaker 4: running out, or this happening, or I can't pay my bills,
Speaker 4: or we sort of thought about it and said, we're
Speaker 4: shooting in Montana. We could go into a bubble and
Speaker 4: really protect ourselves and put ourselves back to work. And
Speaker 4: I said, what do you want to do, And without
Speaker 4: even a blink of an eye, Tailor said, We're going
Speaker 4: back to work. That's what we're going to do. And
Speaker 4: I said, all right, let's figure it out. And we
Speaker 4: went back and we went into that bubble, and where
Speaker 4: I really saw it was we're all working really hard,
Speaker 4: and nobody could do anything. Nobody go to rests. We
Speaker 4: had to all eat together and live together on the
Speaker 4: ranch or really close housing. And then on those Saturdays
Speaker 4: and Sundays was interesting. All of us would grab a
Speaker 4: picnic blanket or something and just sit out on the
Speaker 4: ranch and talk and talk about our families and talk
Speaker 4: about who we're missing and what we're doing. But there
Speaker 4: was something really beauty in the ability for everybody to
Speaker 4: sort of be together. And that season for me actually
Speaker 4: funny enough that you say, that was really special and
Speaker 4: I'm and to see the ratings the way they are
Speaker 4: today is just even more because for those of us
Speaker 4: that all worked on that season in the middle of
Speaker 4: COVID and we had everybody, you know, friends getting sick
Speaker 4: and people getting sick on the crew, and I mean
Speaker 4: we did a pretty incredible job in protecting ourselves but
Speaker 4: also sending everybody home with you know, they're sort of
Speaker 4: feeling back that I'm okay and this is going to
Speaker 4: be okay and we're going to get through it. So
Speaker 4: it really holds a special place in my heart, and
Speaker 4: I think audiences have embraced that season, which makes it
Speaker 4: even even more special. So, you know, love and spending
Speaker 4: time with you today and thank you for everything. For
Speaker 4: the fans out there that don't know you. You put
Speaker 4: your heart and soul into the show for us. You're always,
Speaker 4: you know, there, as early as can be and as
Speaker 4: late as can be, without a word to say. I
Speaker 4: remember us down at the four sixes and hanging out
Speaker 4: down there. So we all appreciate, and I know Taylor does,
Speaker 4: and I do, Network and all of us that want
Speaker 4: to want to appreciate everything you do for us.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, David, and thank you so so
Speaker 2: so much for being here today.
Speaker 3: My pleasure.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Once again, a special thanks to you the Yellowstone family. Obviously,
Speaker 2: none of this would be possible without you, so thank you,
Speaker 2: so so so much for tuning in. We're going to
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