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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Detectives right about

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Speaker 1: it is statistically likely someone known to the family is involved.

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Speaker 1: the morning that Isabella Selice mom got up, she got

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Speaker 1: dead or alive. What happened opened to Isabel Selesse. New

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Speaker 1: That night, Isabel goes to bed. The father, Sergio is

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Speaker 1: Seorgio Silise calls nine one one. Welcome to Crime Stories.

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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. The mystery surrounding the disappearance of six

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Speaker 1: Alan Duke, Alan, what you and I both looked at

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Speaker 1: the new surveillance video of Isabel's home. What does it reveal?

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Speaker 1: It's ten hours of motion activated video taken from about

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Speaker 1: Police have had this for a while. It was just

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Speaker 1: But just later that morning, Rebecca, the mom, comes home.

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Speaker 1: Think about it, Alan, she was seeing that night at

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