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Speaker 1: This episode of Busting with the Boys. The Boys is

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Speaker 1: presented by Barstool Sports.

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Speaker 2: I don't see one white jersey guy in the in

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Speaker 2: the background there, what's that about?

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Speaker 1: Not in the visual?

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Speaker 3: Not in the visual, Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 4: Not on the wall? Actually crazy?

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Speaker 3: Wow, what's the browns on? What's the browns one at

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Speaker 3: the top?

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Speaker 4: That's uh Odell? Oh yep, not like upstairs.

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Speaker 2: That counts that tucked away. He got cut by the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: and you said, all right, I'm just gonna put this

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Speaker 2: away from now.

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Speaker 4: M I don't know if Joe's going to be joining us.

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Speaker 4: Hold on.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we were trying to get Joe on here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I was trying to.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Taylor, I saw him. I was trying to find

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Speaker 5: your NFL network deal. But I stumbled upon the one

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Speaker 5: you did with Joe and Andrew looks like he's in

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Speaker 5: the same exact spot where he was interviewing you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we did a Bust with the Boys that out

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Speaker 4: you last week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I had a little segment deal.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: I got off the phone, all right, I got this

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Speaker 2: that interview, and I called Will and I told him.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Hey, I was just blowing you out there.

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Speaker 2: I was giving you love talking about how every team

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Speaker 2: needs a hard working core for special teams.

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Speaker 3: White guy.

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Speaker 2: Really, seriously, they did that, They didn't new Ship. I

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Speaker 2: was the one doing it, man, I was out there

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Speaker 2: singing your praises. You think Joe Thomas and Hawk knows

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Speaker 2: who you are?

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Speaker 5: Come on, baby, I often Hey, I've been on the

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Speaker 5: phone with Hawk many of times about the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Actually, Taylor, really, when.

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Speaker 5: I was first starting, I was like, hey, can I

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Speaker 5: you mind if I call you and like pick your

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Speaker 5: brain about stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, right now, you're un busting with the boys. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is how we do our podcast, and it's just go.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a go go mentality. Man, it's a go

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Speaker 2: go mentality.

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Speaker 1: He's joking on.

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Speaker 4: No, he's not. Oh wow, okay, it was it was

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Speaker 4: my fault.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna resituate myself.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna stay a picture of all those send

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Speaker 2: that to Joe and say, Yo, that's fucking crazy.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be like, Hawk never hit me, and he's

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Speaker 4: gonna be right because the message that I sent to

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Speaker 4: him never.

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Speaker 1: Sent So, Yo, are you at your house right now.

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Speaker 4: I'm at my house. I'm not garage.

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Speaker 3: You built that.

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Speaker 4: I did as soon as quarantine hit. No way, those

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Speaker 4: are my son's jerseys. That's why there's no white guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh your son's racist, Yeah, my son. This isn't me,

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Speaker 1: this is my son.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just I'm just the man that taught him

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Speaker 2: all his values and core values and morals.

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Speaker 3: But this is my son. Don't worry, he's the bad egg.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 2: If you went into my closet right now with my jerseys,

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Speaker 2: you would it would be a diverse portfolio.

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Speaker 3: It would be a very diverse portfolio.

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Speaker 4: All right. First off, I have Andy Dalton upstairs, but

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Speaker 4: these are all so Andy Dalton is I mean, come on,

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Speaker 4: that's like I count at least three white guys, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know where you're going with that,

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Speaker 1: but once you said, I.

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Speaker 3: Was like, oh, yeah, he's kind of right.

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Speaker 4: The rest of them are aj is this boy that's

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Speaker 4: actually Taylor Gabriel. It's not Calvin Ridley. So they sent

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Speaker 4: those to him, and you know that he's into MVPs

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Speaker 4: and blond hair. Odell. Come on, makes a bunch of

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Speaker 4: sense as a receiver.

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Speaker 2: When you look at a guy like Odell, who when

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he was picked one pick after me,

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Speaker 2: he was picked to the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Absolute stud for a little bit, yeah doubt.

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Speaker 2: I mean that for his first season, made the most

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Speaker 2: incredible catch of all time, and then at the turmoil,

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Speaker 2: like I don't know the whole story. I'm a big

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Speaker 2: fan of Odell actually, so I'm just kind of like

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Speaker 2: where I'm going with this, because at one point, I mean,

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Speaker 2: to get traded a franchise with that much talent that

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Speaker 2: What do you think happened there with those guys?

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, man, it doesn't It doesn't

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Speaker 4: really make sense to me. Odell is a beast, and

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Speaker 4: I mean, we play the Giants, and you know, when

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Speaker 4: you're an offense, you really don't care what's going on

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Speaker 4: in the field. You're trying to get your win. You're

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Speaker 4: trying to like figure out the next thing and get

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Speaker 4: your rest, you know whatever. Right when we play the Giants,

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Speaker 4: he was one of like three players that I would

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Speaker 4: stand up to go on the sideline to watch because

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Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, this kid is just different and he

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Speaker 4: is so that like as much as that catch has

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Speaker 4: catapult him in the superstar them, that's not a lucky catch.

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Speaker 4: There is such a small percentage of receivers that I

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Speaker 4: don't care how many chances you give him can make

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Speaker 4: that catch and it wasn't luck. And like when you

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Speaker 4: watch him, he just has so many attributes to him.

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Speaker 4: The only thing that's kind of stood in this way

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Speaker 4: is some of the situation stuff. You know, he's a

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Speaker 4: passionate dude, but even the stuff you hear that the

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Speaker 4: people talk about him. I mean, it's typically like stuff

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Speaker 4: that we're not even gonna remember in ten years, five years,

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Speaker 4: three years, two years, like the net stuff on the sideline,

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Speaker 4: Like teammates don't say he was a bad teammate. And

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Speaker 4: if they don't say that for me, I really just

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Speaker 4: don't give it. Damn.

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't matter, Yeah, exactly, Like if you don't like

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Speaker 2: the person but they're giving you results. If I'm a

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Speaker 2: business owner and I don't like the person giving me results,

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Speaker 2: but other people around aren't affected by him, negatively, that

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Speaker 3: Where where's the issue there?

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Speaker 2: Do you think you think the Giants made a mistake

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Speaker 2: by getting rid of them?

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Speaker 5: Ah?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, it depends on what they're doing, though,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I was a part of

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Speaker 4: a Browns team that got rid of all their They're

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Speaker 4: even you know, I wouldn't call us good by any

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Speaker 4: stretch of the imagination. But are they're decent players to

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Speaker 4: put themselves in draft position? You know? So? I mean

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Speaker 4: if that's the Giants for trying to do, you know,

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Speaker 4: but if they're looking for talent, they're not gonna They're

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Speaker 4: not gonna find another receiver like Odell Beckham. That's not

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Speaker 4: what's gonna happen if that was their goal.

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Speaker 5: No, No, he's a complete freak.

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Speaker 3: Him.

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Speaker 2: Him and Jarvis du they're they're both different, but they're

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Speaker 2: both so competitive.

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Speaker 3: They do such a great job.

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Speaker 2: There's no way in hell that the Browns should not

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Speaker 2: be as talented as they are.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 1: I agree that, like, go ahead, finish.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, like, I agree, I think it

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Speaker 4: just takes time, man. I mean, I feel like they're

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Speaker 4: trying to learn each other as you guys know. Man,

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Speaker 4: you've been a part of teams that have done really

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Speaker 4: well that people thought on like the surface shouldn't have

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Speaker 4: been good. Hey hey drop it?

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Speaker 3: Can I say hi?

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Speaker 2: Hey hey, she walked over, but that she walked over

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Speaker 2: and me, She's like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: It was like Daddy's he's doing a podcast.

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Speaker 4: Daddy, you tell your kids you're working when you're doing

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Speaker 4: a podcast, or do you just say you're doing it?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I usually do downstairs in the basement, but like my

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Speaker 2: WiFi is so terrible, Like for some reason, right here

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Speaker 2: I get quality WiFi and I don't even I didn't

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Speaker 2: even know where my computer was for the longest time.

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Speaker 2: This is actually the first podcast I've done that's been

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Speaker 2: actually some quality stuff.

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Speaker 4: So it's all.

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Speaker 3: Working out a mark his hand and ship too. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm like going to we were doing.

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Speaker 2: She's doing a mirror in her room, so she's not

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Speaker 3: She's just ripping around.

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Speaker 2: Dude, this is what this is the elements there.

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Speaker 5: She goes, Yo, yo, Hawk, would you would you start

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Speaker 5: on the Cleveland Browns today this year? If Hawk in

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Speaker 5: his prime. Are you starting? Are you starting in that

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Speaker 5: uh starting on that road?

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Speaker 4: My am my prime?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah for sure, bro, Yes I'm the start. I'm

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Speaker 4: the starting slot. I wouldn't start over Jarvis. I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: thought over Odell. When you go three receiver set, your

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Speaker 4: boy is on the field one on one they did.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I had you.

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Speaker 5: I had you on my Madden team when I did

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Speaker 5: fantasy drafts, like and you were in the seventies and

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Speaker 5: you're that slow scat receiver that produced well and gained

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Speaker 5: a better rating the next year year two and three.

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Speaker 1: So you were always on my roster. You were always drafted.

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Speaker 3: Well, you ran one hundred and two hundred right in

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Speaker 3: high school.

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Speaker 2: You were fast ass dude, eleven like eleven three or

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Speaker 2: something like that.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy.

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Speaker 4: No, that's actually not that fast.

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Speaker 1: But it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: You see.

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Speaker 1: You see where we grew up. Man, that shit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a.

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Speaker 3: White guy in Arizona. Then I'm that thing on damn.

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Speaker 3: So that is a serious business. How did you get

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Speaker 3: to you? But you ran like a four to three

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Speaker 3: four at the comm at the comb.

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Speaker 4: So I actually didn't get fast until college, you know.

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Speaker 2: But it makes sense, baby, that does not make sense

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 4: I was like one hundred and thirty pounds in high school.

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Speaker 4: So you can't be fast until you start getting your

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Speaker 4: man muscles right because you need to strength to like

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Speaker 4: kind of run through with sustained speed. So I gained

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Speaker 4: like thirty pounds between January of my senior year and

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Speaker 4: because I'm likey' I gotta put weight on it, and

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Speaker 4: I just trained like I had never really lifted weights

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Speaker 4: or nothing like that. So I went crazy hard. I

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Speaker 4: then when I got to school, I was the fastest

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Speaker 4: until I got than playing football period.

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Speaker 1: Where where'd you go to college?

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Speaker 4: Toledo?

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Speaker 4: What was that all about, yo? The CFL was I

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Speaker 4: Four hour days is the max you cannot. Teams aren't

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Speaker 4: It's it's not like that. It's like, yo, so you

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Speaker 1: Dude, that's wild.

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Speaker 2: Do you what do you think the CFL wasn't, like,

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Speaker 2: Do you think that there should be a merger? Because

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Speaker 2: my thought is that the CFL. First off, if you

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I'm just saying, like, people want to make money,

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Speaker 4: So here's how it works. So, the CFL has been

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Speaker 4: Even in the rosters, there's a forty two active man roster,

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Speaker 3: Disrespectful.

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Speaker 2: But college football, they already the the NFL already has

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Speaker 3: So you think if the.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea that to even the thing, right,

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Speaker 4: So peoplere gonna.

442
00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,160
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, we're all speculated here. But it's interesting.

443
00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,119
Speaker 4: But if they did, it would only make sense to

444
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,560
Speaker 4: them to change the rules. And I don't know how

445
00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,040
Speaker 4: can the thing about Canadian football fans that love the CFL,

446
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,760
Speaker 4: the thing that they would hate more than changing their

447
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,879
Speaker 4: tradition and historic rules is not having anything to root for,

448
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,560
Speaker 4: right and out. Again, I don't know if that's what

449
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,679
Speaker 4: the situation the CFL is in, but that money not

450
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,600
Speaker 4: coming in is a big deal to that league.

451
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a bit of a deal.

452
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:09,680
Speaker 4: Though.

453
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,200
Speaker 2: Why not just take an NFL team like they've they've

454
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,159
Speaker 2: been talking about doing a team in London for a

455
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,359
Speaker 2: while yeah, like that, I don't know if I know your.

456
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,080
Speaker 3: Work for NFL. Now you've sold out a little bit,

457
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 3: and that's totally fine, and so like, I don't.

458
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 2: You know you've swept in there a little bit. I

459
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,199
Speaker 2: don't know if you hear any rumbling if you and

460
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,280
Speaker 2: Goodell are having tea.

461
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,360
Speaker 4: In a new flash you work for the NFL too,

462
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:31,919
Speaker 4: But no, I work for the NFL.

463
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 2: But I'm also like, nobody really like all the upper

464
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 2: people are like that fucking guy again, he's just a

465
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 2: loud mouthed guy.

466
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:37,960
Speaker 4: Off.

467
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,400
Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's way different, by the way, our jobs

468
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 2: are very different.

469
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,120
Speaker 5: You hit it with that one.

470
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they pay you thirty times if they pay me.

471
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,880
Speaker 4: Who do you think is more a more important employee

472
00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:58,200
Speaker 4: to them?

473
00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,199
Speaker 3: I don't know.

474
00:19:59,320 --> 00:19:59,719
Speaker 5: I don't know.

475
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,639
Speaker 3: You gonna last a lot longer. I know that I

476
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,399
Speaker 3: feel like over time you'll make more money.

477
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,920
Speaker 2: Do you do you think there's a chance, like, yeah,

478
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 2: there's obviously a chance that that that the NFL is

479
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 2: gonna may have a team in London, But how's that

480
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 2: gonna work? Do you play eight home games there than

481
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 2: eight away games here? Do you have two separate facilities?

482
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 3: And why?

483
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 2: And why not, since I know we're talking about the

484
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,199
Speaker 2: Canadian Football League, why not take a team and go

485
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,160
Speaker 2: put it in British Columbia. Go put it in Montreal,

486
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 2: go put it in those the cities, the Vancouver, London. Yeah,

487
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, it's close in London and

488
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 2: kind of give it that trial and error.

489
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Speaker 4: That's a good question. Man. I don't know. I don't

490
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 4: know how I would feel about having to play in London,

491
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 4: you know, And that's me. I'm old school. I'm also

492
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 4: you know, I.

493
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Speaker 1: Don't know how I feel either that that would be crazy.

494
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 3: It's kind of cool to me.

495
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but think about when you got to travel, like

496
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Speaker 1: think of just.

497
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no question, Yeah eight hours every time?

498
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm saying not not a week.

499
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 2: You know, you would have to go eight home games

500
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 2: in London and then go eight home games away, and

501
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 2: then you'd have to have like a separate facility in

502
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 2: the United States, like and I don't know, North Carolina,

503
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 2: somewhere in North Carolina, you know what I'm saying, Like

504
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 2: a random So.

505
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 5: You think it'd be dope because it'd be like a

506
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 5: change of scenery after like a year you take.

507
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 1: Off, like, let's go to the US now.

508
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 3: So I think there's like two different trains of thought.

509
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 2: If you're like a young player trying to figure it

510
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 2: out and like really trying to make your mark in

511
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 2: the league.

512
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 3: That sucks because you're not going to.

513
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 2: Be in it like that, you're not going to be

514
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 2: in the Beacon, you know what I'm saying of the

515
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: United States trying to like, you're around the players, you're

516
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: kind of traveling, you're doing the regular travel day that

517
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 2: everybody else is doing. But if you're towards the end

518
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 2: of your career and like, what a cool cultural experience

519
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 2: that would be to go and live in London and

520
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 2: play a sport that everybody loves and be like a

521
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: stepping stone of people that like you're trying to change

522
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 2: the brand, you're trying to adapt and grow, and you

523
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: can look back, you know, you play two three years

524
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: doing that and you look back and go, I was

525
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 2: one of the people that got this kind of steam

526
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 2: head that of you know, London.

527
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 3: They're a franchise in London that I helped start.

528
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 2: And I think so like, as a young player, I

529
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: don't think you would want it, But as an older player,

530
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,959
Speaker 2: I think that'd be really cool to like to be

531
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: a part of, you know, like this COVID thing, Like

532
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 2: depending on this COVID thing in this season, like if

533
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 2: we like get an island, like the UFC did do

534
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 2: cruise ships, you know, two teams per cruise ships. Like

535
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 2: there's gonna be documentaries, crazy shit that's gonna happen, like

536
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 2: and we get to sit there and say.

537
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 3: Yo, we were a part of this, like we were

538
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: a part of.

539
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 2: This crazy, like insane world changing thing. And then still

540
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: play an NFL season because there's no way, there's no

541
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Speaker 2: way we don't play.

542
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I think.

543
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: I knew we were gonna get to this eventually. I

544
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: I can't see.

545
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 3: There's too much money.

546
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 5: Do you think do you think there's a do you

547
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 5: think there's a chance of a season not happening?

548
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: Hold, before you do that, tell me about London because

549
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: because we got to hit that, and then we'll go

550
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: to COVID because that we're gonna never get back to London.

551
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 4: Such a damn pro Yeah. No, I like London. I

552
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 4: think it would be a cool experience. What wouldn't be

553
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 4: a cool experience is traveling back and forth like that

554
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 4: would be that would just be brutal to me. And

555
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 4: like you know, and I guess in the grants game

556
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 4: that because I would never really live in the places

557
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 4: that I would play. After a while, I would have

558
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 4: my off season place and then head to the city

559
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 4: and do my thing. But when you think of like

560
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 4: off season, like where's your off season going to be?

561
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 4: Is it's still going to be in London, And like

562
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 4: you know, that means you probably have to move there

563
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 4: for the considerable amount of time. I don't know, man,

564
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 4: it would just be tough. You're right, I do think

565
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 4: so a place like Toronto makes a lot more sense

566
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 4: to expand to first. But again, those are those are

567
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 4: conversations way above both you and I. It's paygrade, no question.

568
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 2: Geographically that makes the most sense going on the Western hemisphere.

569
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, but for for whatever reason, like

570
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 2: I got to play in London, will did you ever?

571
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 3: Have you ever played in London? Yeah, it's kind of

572
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: It's a wild right, It's like you don't really like

573
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: the fans.

574
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 2: You go out there and everyone's cheering and like we

575
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 2: scored every different differs and then you're sitting there and

576
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 2: then they score and they start cheering. That's like London

577
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: people are just like, fuck it, man, don't both these

578
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: people they don't really care. It's wet for touchdowns, dude, Yeah,

579
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: they're rooting for touchdowns. It's like Nascar, like you want.

580
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: They're looking for the accidents Hockey, they're looking for the fights.

581
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: And it's like what everybody wants?

582
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: Did you London?

583
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 4: My last year in Cleveland, Like towards the end of

584
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 4: the season, Troy Vincent came to Cleveland. Now at this time,

585
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 4: everyone's complaining about the London games, right, because they're like, Yo,

586
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 4: it's bad for your body, we got to go across

587
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 4: the country, blah blah blah. Before that's bye week, uch

588
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 4: of wield, Right, Troy Vincent comes to visit the Browns

589
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 4: and he sits down with like the leaders on the team.

590
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 4: So it's like me, Joe Thomas, Tramont, Tremont Williams, Josh McCown,

591
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 4: Joe Hayden is like the Mario Davis like vets right,

592
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 4: leaders of the team. So he sits down with us,

593
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 4: we start talking about a bunch of stuff. He's like,

594
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 4: you know what about London, and we were kind of

595
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 4: all like, yo, we want to play in London. We

596
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 4: never get to play in London, Like most of us

597
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 4: had not played in London yet. So he's like, what, okay,

598
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 4: that's interesting. Joe Thomas is like banging on the table

599
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 4: for it, like yeah, man, like I want to at

600
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 4: least experience that. Everyone at least give me the chance

601
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 4: to complain about it, like everybody else, right, right, So

602
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 4: the schedule comes out that year. Of course Cleveland is

603
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 4: now playing in London. Nobody that was in that meeting,

604
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 4: not one person got to play in London for the

605
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 4: Browns traded every single person. And then Joe tears this

606
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 4: tricep the week before London. So there was like eight

607
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 4: of us and none of us got to play in London.

608
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: Oh the Joe Joe Thomas tearing of trust that that

609
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: was against the Titans and oh yeah, and I remember

610
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: I met Joe in the Pro Bowl the year before.

611
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 2: And so like Joe Thomas too offensive, lignment is like

612
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: might be the last dance? Yeah, I guess so, yeah,

613
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: I would say so, Like he's like he's the dude.

614
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, the guy that looks like he

615
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: goes he's one of the greatest, if not the greatest.

616
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 3: Of all time.

617
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 2: Like the amount of snaps he played ten years and

618
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: Pro Bowls that kind of thing. And I'm watching this

619
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 2: guy who I got to meet the year before come

620
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: towards the sideline and get up and get on his

621
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 2: tricep like he's like grabbing his tricep and they're looking

622
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 2: at him. I'm like, holy shit, like I'm watching this

623
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: dude end his streak right now.

624
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: This is crazy, you know.

625
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, you know him, you should go

626
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: out and you should go out and say something to him.

627
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: So I start like jogging out there to like say

628
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: something to him, and like he gets up as I'm

629
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: running towards him and like fucking powerhawks down the down

630
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 2: the other side, Like I don't even reach him. I

631
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: like go to the pat him and I like don't

632
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: even have like turn around like halfway down.

633
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 3: The field, Like this is the dumbest mistake.

634
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: I like turn I like jogged back and all that

635
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 2: like Dennis Kelly, and like a couple dudes are looking

636
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: at me like hey, how that goes?

637
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: Like I don't want to talk about it was just stupid, milk?

638
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: What what? What a dumb movie?

639
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 4: Because I need I need the.

640
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 3: Foot there definitely is like going I get him. I

641
00:26:58,920 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 3: got a pad.

642
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: I pat him on the ad and I realized, like,

643
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: oh shit, you're kind of out here, aren't you, And

644
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: like I kind of like go back, you're kind of

645
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: out It was crazy.

646
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 4: Dude, Hey, you were a part of that moment though,

647
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: you know that's what it's just.

648
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 3: Stacking it up.

649
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: I'm part of COVID, I'm part of a London trip

650
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: exactly going.

651
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: To do Mexico City.

652
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, like it's not good for your body. London's

653
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: not good for your body. Traveling eight hours is not

654
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: good for your body. Trying to get sleep, like we

655
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 2: left on a Thursday, left on a Thursday, slept on

656
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: the plane, and then got off the plane and started

657
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: went right to practice. And they're like, hey, like at

658
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: least stay up till seven three the next day. So

659
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: I'm literally staring at the clock trying to go to sleep.

660
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 2: Finally get to go to sleep at seven thirty, wake

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Speaker 2: up at like two in the morning, and I'm like, uh,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck? How am I going to

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Speaker 2: play a game after?

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Speaker 4: This?

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Speaker 2: This is this is crazy. You go in the field,

666
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Speaker 2: the field's like bumpy and rocky, and you slide and everywhere.

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Speaker 2: It was like it's it's the worst conditions possible, but

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Speaker 2: it's still super awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still.

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Speaker 3: Super cool though, like the whole like you know.

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Speaker 5: You're I'm yeah, I'm for sure glad I can say

672
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Speaker 5: I played in London, but yeah, when I actually got

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Speaker 5: low key, I was kind of like, oh thank god,

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Got to travel and do all that shit over there.

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Speaker 4: D right, I actually would have a deal. I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: have mind traveling being hurt, because then I could just

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Speaker 1: You know that now?

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Speaker 5: See that's that's true for sure, because we when I

684
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Speaker 1: It's it's terrible, and we ended in a tie against the.

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692
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693
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Speaker 5: really know how to You don't really know if you

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Speaker 1: You don't really know what to.

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Speaker 4: One.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy, huh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think I think we played. Were you on the

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Speaker 5: Browns when you guys came to the Skins, you were

786
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Speaker 5: on the field together. I think there's a I think

787
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Speaker 5: there's a photo out there, probably you.

788
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Speaker 1: Probably shaking myself and will black men.

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Speaker 4: I remember thinking, like, now a white dude named Compton,

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Speaker 4: you don't see that every day?

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Speaker 1: That's probably, uh. I all the black people they always

792
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Speaker 1: ask me that stuff.

793
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Todd Gurley is he's my other guy.

794
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Speaker 4: He's the only black guy I've ever met named Todd

795
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Speaker 4: in my life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I needed you guys to laugh at I said black

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Speaker 5: people because I was wanting it to be a joke.

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Speaker 1: But people probably hear that on the pod and like,

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Speaker 1: holy ship that constant.

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Speaker 2: But well he then the person's listening to it, like,

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Speaker 2: well he is from Missouri, you know black people.

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Speaker 5: Holy sh yo, Hey, do you do you remember when

804
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 5: that uh the referee said that you're running back.

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Speaker 1: I forget his name.

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00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What that fumble that I got? The fumble recovery?

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Speaker 4: It wasn't a fumble recovery.

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Speaker 1: I know I didn't have the ball.

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Speaker 5: A crazy Smike came up like, hey man, big player

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Speaker 5: at the end with that fumber. Uh two turnovers because

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Speaker 5: I remember I stripped on one and I was like

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Speaker 5: two turnovers. They're like, yeah, they got you for that

814
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Speaker 5: fumber recovery. I was like what because I remember being

815
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Speaker 5: at the bottom of the pile and smash ripping my

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Speaker 5: arm and.

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Speaker 1: I was like hey.

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Speaker 4: I was like, yo, that's my fucking arm.

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Speaker 1: Let go on my arm.

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Speaker 5: And uh, we get up and apparently I had the

821
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Speaker 5: pumber recovery.

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Speaker 1: Ball wasn't even on the bottom of the pile, Taylor.

823
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Speaker 1: It was a phone recovery.

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Speaker 4: So the running back drops the ball, Duke Johnson gets

825
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Speaker 4: it right back, stands up it was handed, hands it

826
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Speaker 4: to the ref and the other ref comes in and

827
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 4: points to the Redskins. The running back is holding the

828
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Speaker 4: ball in his hand like what.

829
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Speaker 5: They start jumping freaking out, like, yo, we got the

830
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Speaker 5: ball and we just we just get.

831
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Speaker 1: The fucking ball and then ended up moving that game.

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Speaker 1: I post a speaking of the last dance too.

833
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Speaker 5: I post a picture of the day the next day

834
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 5: of the referee pointing it the other way, and I

835
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 5: just put the little Jordan cry emoji faces, like all

836
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 5: over all the Browns players.

837
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Speaker 4: That's up, Bro, that's messed up. I wouldn't have came

838
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Speaker 4: in the pot had done.

839
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Speaker 3: That, is what? What's the weirdest things?

840
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Speaker 5: Like?

841
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Speaker 2: Is that the weirdest situation that's ever happened to you

842
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: in a football game?

843
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: Weirdest situation? Heck, I don't know, man, it was all weird.

844
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Speaker 4: I don't know, Like.

845
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Speaker 3: Flexing the watch.

846
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: Like hey Taylor, he like leans forward like.

847
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Speaker 3: I don't really know.

848
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that is a role that gentleman.

850
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Speaker 3: Getting paid pretty good by the NFL.

851
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: There, huh. A couple of weird situations I've had. James

852
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 4: Harrison and Jay Gruden almost fought one time.

853
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Speaker 1: Almost fought James Harrison.

854
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, we were playing Chicago. It would have got outury,

855
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 4: but shout out to Jay because Jay didn't back down.

856
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 4: I will give him. I will give him that.

857
00:35:59,520 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 5: Jay.

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00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 4: We were playing versus Chicago. It was James Harrison's first

859
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: game as a Bengal in that like weird year where

860
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: he was on the Bengals and the offense got the

861
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: ball back with like two minutes left in the half.

862
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: So Jay fires off three passes. Boom, boom, boom, like

863
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 4: six seconds roll off the clock, right, So defense is

864
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: pissed because they're like, Yo, run the football. Let's go

865
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Speaker 4: in the halftime. Kill clock. So we have to punt it.

866
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Speaker 4: We're backed up, We're like on our own ten yard line.

867
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Speaker 4: Punt it. They get it. They do, like three players

868
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 4: kick a field goal. We going down, and so the

869
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: whole James Harrison is like flipping out. So Jay's walking in.

870
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 4: James is right here like I can't believe what the

871
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 4: f are you doing? Run the damn football. Black. We

872
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 4: get in the locker room and people are like trying

873
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: to hold James back. So as you can imagine, it

874
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 4: was like fifteen people trying to hold this man back,

875
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 4: and then Jay lost this stuff. So now they're face

876
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 4: to face. Right, no one's holding Jay back though, but

877
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 4: everyone's holding James. So James keeping us safe. This is

878
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 4: just a case, you know, James breaks free. But yeah,

879
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 4: that was a pretty crazy situation. And that actually wasn't

880
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 4: the old time that I've been around players and coaches

881
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 4: about to fight.

882
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.

883
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: When you see James Harrison, like his videos on Instagram

884
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: of him putting, like pushing two thousand pounds on a

885
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: sled and you just see him like bench pressing all

886
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: of the weight, not just some of it, all of

887
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: the weight, You're like, well, what did pit an imposing figure?

888
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: Like he is a mass he's got to be massive.

889
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: And then you play against him. I remember, like I

890
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: put against him my rookie year and everyone's like, hey, don't.

891
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 3: Hey, don't piss James Harrison off. Don't piss him off.

892
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you talking? Like, that's my thing.

893
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm a shit talker, and I'm like, what are you

894
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: talking about?

895
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 5: To be fine?

896
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: And I had the first play of the game, like

897
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 2: he jogs out there, I'm like, oh, this guy's little,

898
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: like he's on a shore like we're we oh, we

899
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: gonna be all right, And I'm thinking like, how is

900
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: this guy got Sony Sacks?

901
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: Such a long game? Dude?

902
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: It was.

903
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: It was the first play of the game, I like

904
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: cut him and I start cursing at him or whatever.

905
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: And then there's an outside zone the next play and

906
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to my right and I turn and he

907
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: grabs me by the ankle and starts gator rolling my

908
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: ankle and he's.

909
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: Like literally, I'm like, he just broke my ankle right there.

910
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: It was. He is so strong, his center of gravity

911
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: is so low. I mean, as a defensive lineman, I

912
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 2: don't think you really need to be that tall.

913
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 3: I think, and now that effort.

914
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: Playing James Harrison, it's like, if your center gravity is

915
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: out load, you can turn the corner that fast as

916
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: he does and use your leverage against you.

917
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 3: That's a big win.

918
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 4: He's like stupid powerful, Like he's he's almost as wide

919
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 4: as he is like tall. Yeah, he's he's like built

920
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 4: like a box.

921
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: He's every day a brick ship house.

922
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean he just literally lift like for like

923
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: four or five hours a day.

924
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: And that's only posed too.

925
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 5: It's almost like how many how many prowler sled pushes

926
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 5: where you got like a house on each side?

927
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 4: He won, he won the weight room he likes over.

928
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 4: It's like that.

929
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: It's that the hard Knocks video JJ Watt's doing past

930
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: past drills at ten pm at night.

931
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 3: It's like, hey, Jj, it's over. Practice is done now, dude.

932
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I could just go home now.

933
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

934
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 5: Any any player watching that that that's the moment that

935
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 5: we were talking about that one time where you see

936
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 5: these things on TV or the Hard Knocks and you're

937
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 5: just like, if they're going super hard all day long

938
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 5: like everyone normally does, you're not doing pastorals at ten.

939
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: Pm at night that you definitely had a rest day at.

940
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 5: Practice if you're out in front of a camera, you know,

941
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 5: hitting these past drills.

942
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 4: Man.

943
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 2: I always look at those dudes that get rest days

944
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: because they're older or they're that good, and like during camp,

945
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: like so jealous coach told me to take the day off.

946
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, you ever get those hawks?

947
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 4: I got? I got my last year, I got a

948
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 4: I think in camp I was on a two and

949
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: one schedule.

950
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 3: What is that? Two on one day off?

951
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 4: Too? On one off?

952
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: You were on that?

953
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was on a two to one.

954
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 3: I'd be going so hard.

955
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: Then he flashes.

956
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 4: Again, Joe Thomas, best schedule I've ever seen in my life.

957
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: Let's hear it. Yeah, let's hear it.

958
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 4: Sixteen days of work.

959
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 3: You lie, he would't even practice.

960
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: You're lying.

961
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: Game day. That was the only time I see Joe.

962
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

963
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: I'm flooded with society right now. I literally think I

964
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: have a pit in my stomach right now.

965
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: Just he was that good. It's like this, It's like, yo,

966
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 4: you don't drive a Ferrari every day. That's a Sunday car,

967
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 4: you know. You you bring that thing out on Sundays

968
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: and you rev it up. You don't running it into

969
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 4: the ground Monday through Saturday. That was Joe.

970
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: He's hearing.

971
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 4: Joe was that good. And he was still great out

972
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: better than every player on the team, and you obviously

973
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: make Pro Bowls and stuff. His body was just so

974
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 4: worn down, like that's why Joe Jodan retired because he

975
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 4: was just done with football. Joe's body was genuinely shit, right,

976
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 4: Like so if you play ten thousand snaps, that's there's

977
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: a price to play. So he I mean, he couldn't

978
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: walk down steps and stuff, so there would just be

979
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 4: like it became it was more detrim in oral for

980
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: him as a player to practice. Then it was beneficial.

981
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 4: So at that point, it was like, yo, he doesn't

982
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: need to practice. He would come out there for walkthroughs,

983
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 4: but even like standing up because he couldn't stand up.

984
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 4: His back was bad. His knees are bad, so he

985
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 4: couldn't even stand at practice like it was the best way.

986
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 4: Had he not been on that schedule, he probably would

987
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 4: have been forced to retire, probably a couple of years earlier.

988
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: Anxiety, massive amounts of anxiety right now, dude.

989
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: He if you if he doesn't look like it now,

990
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: I shredded.

991
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: If I'm ever at the point where my back I

992
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: can't like, hey, Tim, can you hoard to practice?

993
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 4: Say?

994
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: I can't even stand there? My back hurts so bad,

995
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: like you gotta, you gotta.

996
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: That's terrifying, Like I'd be think what's gonna happen to

997
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 2: me in five years from now?

998
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 3: And he looks great.

999
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: He looks like he's done it better than any offensive

1000
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: line and I've seen do it.

1001
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: I bet you.

1002
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: Joe Staley catches up to him because he is he's

1003
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 2: looking thin thin he uh, he randomly sent me a picture,

1004
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: sent me a picture of his shirt off.

1005
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: You know, dude's thin here. It's a little weird, but

1006
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: it's a bit of brotherhood.

1007
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have, I have it right here, but I

1008
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: don't know, man, like when I if you're hurting that bad,

1009
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: and why wouldn't.

1010
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: You cut it?

1011
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: Or would you rather play ten thousand, three hundred and

1012
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: sixty whatever snaps like he did, or was rather just

1013
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: playing nine thousand and play about five more years?

1014
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 4: You know? I think here, here's the thing about Joe, Man.

1015
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: He he had the chance to go to the Broncos.

1016
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 4: The Broncos were trying to trade for him the year

1017
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: they won the Super Bowl, Like at the trade deadline,

1018
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: it was like supposedly the facts came in a minute late.

1019
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 4: That's the only reason it didn't happen. But I really

1020
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 4: think it was the GM we had at the time.

1021
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 4: He didn't want on his resume that he was the

1022
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: guy that traded away Joe Thomas from the Cleveland Browns,

1023
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: like in Cleveland, you'll never live that down right never.

1024
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: I think he purposely, you know, sent it in late.

1025
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 4: But the Broncos, like Peyton Manning calling him, telling him

1026
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 4: to go take a piss on the GM's death. So

1027
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 4: he trades you away. But Joe didn't want to go.

1028
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 4: Like I remember sitting him at the lunch table, and

1029
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 4: I'm thinking in my mind, like, yo, you're about to

1030
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 4: go win a super Bowl if the reports are right.

1031
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 4: But he was like stressed because he didn't want to

1032
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 4: leave Cleveland and he was just like at that time,

1033
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 4: he had been there so long and family and it

1034
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 4: was like yo, I'm like, he's here to ride it out.

1035
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: So when you talk about the nine thousand and play

1036
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 4: five years more, I think it got to the point

1037
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 4: where the mix of both you know, his body and

1038
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 4: the field right, and he wanted to be there for

1039
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: a Browns turnaround, which is why he wanted to stay,

1040
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: Like that was more important to him than going somewhere

1041
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 4: and piggybacking off a super Bowl. But it got to

1042
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: the point where some of the moves again being made

1043
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 4: and they're getting rid of good players. They're doing the

1044
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 4: like yo, draft positioning, and he's like, yo, you guys

1045
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 4: are two and three years away, you know what I mean.

1046
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 4: So he had to start making a decision for his body,

1047
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 4: like you're talking about Taylor being like, yeah, I don't

1048
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 4: see this coming around anytime soon, and shoot, here we

1049
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 4: are three years later, and he was right.

1050
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question.

1051
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: Now you guys got your little Tomahawk show now now,

1052
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: not little I.

1053
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 5: Don't say that, did not mean that at all in

1054
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 5: that fashion. You know, you know when I wanted to

1055
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 5: start to say I'm calling hawks, if if if.

1056
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 4: The Tomahawk wasn't a distant relative to the Busting with

1057
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 4: the Boys, because when it was happening, I'm like, YO,

1058
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 4: will hit me up, Like yo, I think me and

1059
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 4: Taylor wrong gonna start this podcast. I gave them all

1060
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 4: the keys. I said, here's what you want to do,

1061
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 4: Here's how you want to do it. You got to

1062
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: do this, you got to do that. Here's what they want,

1063
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: here's what's worked. Keep it this. Boom boom boom. I

1064
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: actually left that conversation and was like, Yo, this podcast

1065
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 4: is going to be great. I'm telling you these guys,

1066
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 4: I got them. I'm telling you man, I got the mind,

1067
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 4: I got my I got my producers will back that

1068
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 4: up after the first especially after your first episode. Who

1069
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: was your first episode, Delaney, first episode, I'm like, this

1070
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: is going to be huge.

1071
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 5: Now to the boys at Roadbacks, shout out Roadback, dude.

1072
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 5: Roadback is for the boys. You should be too. They're

1073
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 5: new to the show, but not to the office. The

1074
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 5: guys over at Roadback Active where have been sending us

1075
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 5: performance ts polos CUZI pullovers and I'll be honest, I'm

1076
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 5: a huge fan of their shit. Dude. Rollback has been

1077
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 5: the undercover brand founded by friends at barstool, and it's

1078
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 5: sneaky taking over the office because their fabric is so

1079
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 5: damn soft Roebacks gear. It's starting to pop up all

1080
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 5: over the league. Baker Mayfield ripping the hat at the

1081
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 5: Indians game. Bengals head coach shout out Nebraska Cornhusker Zach Taylor,

1082
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 5: he was rocking a rowback cusip at the Combine. Their

1083
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 5: gears legit and it's not surprising it's popping up everywhere.

1084
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 5: Roebacks performances are some of the softest teas we've seen.

1085
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 5: They have silver yarn embedded into the fabric. Shoutouts silver,

1086
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 5: no free shoutouts. This basically means you can sweat in

1087
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 5: their teas a few days in a row and they

1088
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 5: won't start smelling. That's huge. You guys know how you

1089
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 5: put on them dry fits, they start getting this little

1090
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 5: wreaky smell. Not Rollback, dude. Roebacks, pollos and czips are

1091
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 5: unbelievable too. Their czips are incredibly comfortable, and the polos

1092
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 5: aren't your typical dad golf polos. It's fucking dad Bot

1093
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Speaker 4: Uh.

1118
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 5: Now back to this wonderful episode with Andrew Hawkins.

1119
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: Really, oh, shout out the boys, shout out us, good

1120
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: for us.

1121
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: Hey, Taylor, Taylor.

1122
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 5: I remember reaching out to him to shout out us.

1123
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 5: I remember reaching out to him. I think it was

1124
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 5: during the season this past year maybe or maybe at

1125
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 5: the end of the summer, but.

1126
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, what's up, uh, what's up with

1127
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: the uninterrupted? And he didn't hit me back.

1128
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 5: Well, actually he responded me, He's like, you know, we

1129
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 5: only it's specific kind of guys that we roll with.

1130
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: Crazy. You guys don't really fit that mold.

1131
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: Crazy dude at.

1132
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: Will and I will and I have proven to sell

1133
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: our souls, dude, we will will be What are the

1134
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: things that change that changed color iguanas?

1135
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: What are those things?

1136
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 4: Chameleon? Chameleon?

1137
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: Can we follows right now?

1138
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: You want me to cut my hair, shave my beard

1139
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: and put a cord shirt on.

1140
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 3: What's the price tag? You know what I'm saying. We'll

1141
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: do it. We absolutely, we'll sell out for the brand.

1142
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 5: Baby.

1143
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: Hey, I love it Interrupted is, but I want on,

1144
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: I want on uninterrupted.

1145
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 5: Yo.

1146
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: Oh, you don't know what interrupted is?

1147
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 5: No, Okay, So let me do the boy, right, man.

1148
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 5: So transition away from football. What you were thirty one?

1149
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 4: Thirty one? Yep?

1150
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna let him talk about some of his

1151
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 5: stuff he was doing to hustle to get in some

1152
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 5: of these meetings he was getting in. But you basically

1153
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 5: wanted to be an intern at Uninterrupted, which is Lebron

1154
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 5: James's umbrella platform, and you would never really fully know

1155
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 5: because you guys do such a good job branding.

1156
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: But what's his name, Maverick Carter?

1157
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 4: Yep?

1158
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: Like Lebron's best friend.

1159
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 5: He kind of runs all this stuff, all this media stuff,

1160
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 5: and Hawk just reaches out and wants to get an internship, right.

1161
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 4: Yep.

1162
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: Isn't that correct?

1163
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 4: You're hitting it yep?

1164
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so he basically just wanted because you just

1165
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 5: wanted to be getting this game of not really sure

1166
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 5: what you wanted to do this and that, but Lebron

1167
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 5: owns uninterrupted. Yeah, the whole brand uninterrupted. Anytime you see uninterrupted,

1168
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 5: just know Lebron is on that.

1169
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 4: Machine, dude.

1170
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 5: So you're like, you're like, what the the business CEO

1171
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 5: some shit?

1172
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, director of business development. So I was playing so

1173
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 4: my last couple of years in Cleveland, you know, because

1174
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 4: I mean my older brother played in the league too,

1175
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 4: and I have like a bunch of family members that

1176
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 4: play ball, and you guys know, you got homeboys and

1177
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 4: friends that have played, and you know, you get done

1178
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 4: and you got the poems up, like, yo, what's next?

1179
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 5: Right?

1180
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 4: And that's tough on a lot of guys, right, besides,

1181
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 4: you know some of the other conversations just you know,

1182
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 4: you've wrapped your identity and ball for so long you

1183
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 4: don't know what's next. So for me, I'm like, I

1184
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 4: don't want to do that. I don't want to have

1185
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 4: to go through that. So I went back and got

1186
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 4: my master's degree. And while I was getting my master's degree,

1187
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 4: when I signed with Cleveland, which was my version of

1188
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: a big deal. It's not left tackle money, but for me,

1189
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 4: it was a big deal because I was letting somebody's

1190
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 4: couch like four years early. So I was like, when

1191
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 4: I got to Cleveland, I just started trying to have

1192
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 4: hunt down Maverick Carter, who was again Lebron's business manager

1193
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 4: and you know, runs all the companies in the business

1194
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 4: of Lebron James. And I'm like, I just wanted to

1195
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 4: learn because I'm like, yo, if he can give me

1196
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 4: some keys, that set me up for when I'm done.

1197
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: I didn't really know I wanted to get in the

1198
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 4: media on front of the camera, but I knew I

1199
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 4: wanted to do it behind the camera. And you know,

1200
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 4: I hunted them down. It took me like a year

1201
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 4: and a half, two years, and I just hounded it

1202
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 4: them and he's like, yo, bro, if you're serious about it,

1203
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 4: come to la do an internship. And I'm like, all right, bet.

1204
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 4: So I picked my family up my last off season

1205
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 4: in the league, moved out to la trained out here,

1206
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 4: but I was going to classes in New York for

1207
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 4: my masters. So every week I would be doing my

1208
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 4: internship and on Monday, I would leave it like four

1209
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 4: in the morning, fly to New York, all day classes

1210
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 4: in New York, and at night on the red eye

1211
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 4: right back to LAO. Whole off season. So I'm interning

1212
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 4: in school and that just kind of helped developed and

1213
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 4: Uninterrupted was new, so you know, it was able to

1214
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 4: kind of help shape the company and initiatives, and then

1215
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 4: they were like, Yo, we want you on full time

1216
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,959
Speaker 4: whenever you get done. So when I retired, I walked

1217
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 4: right into yeah, being the director of business development, so

1218
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 4: been there for what three years now, and then in

1219
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 4: front of the camera with ESPN and NFL Network, started

1220
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 4: to like kind of develop and then doing my own

1221
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 4: content and then the podcast. So it's all kind of

1222
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 4: worked out, man, And you know, you guys are shoot.

1223
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 4: I mean, imagine that I got started when I got done, right,

1224
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 4: So imagine the head start guys like you were going

1225
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 4: to have. When it's all said and done, you're gonna

1226
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 4: walk into opportunities like some of these quarterbacks who was like, Yo,

1227
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 4: these opportunities are gonna pay you just as much as

1228
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 4: you made in the league. And that's like, that's what

1229
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 4: it's all about. And Interrupted is the more than an athlete.

1230
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 4: That's what that shit is about. Man's being like, Yo,

1231
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 4: you could do a lot of things, like you could

1232
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 4: do a podcast and be the start and left tackle

1233
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 4: or linebacker in the NFL, or have your own media

1234
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 4: company one day. You know what I'm saying.

1235
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 2: There's there's something different about like when you make up

1236
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: a dollar on the football field, Like that's awesome, but

1237
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: then eventually it's like, well, that's my job, and then

1238
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: you take something when you make a dollar off the

1239
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: football field, you're like, yo, this is this is just

1240
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: free money? Like that we did it like you like

1241
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: it's crazy your mindset. You're like, I'm actually I'm actually

1242
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 2: good at something else too, this is super cool.

1243
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 4: Like you built busting from nothing. This wasn't a thing,

1244
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 4: and now you've got damn how dope is that?

1245
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 5: Taylor and I we would do so when we started,

1246
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 5: it was like you wanted to have some in the

1247
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 5: library before you release one.

1248
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: Just to have it all prepared.

1249
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 5: And we just be facetiming dude, probably a lot during

1250
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 5: the week and we just like, man, do we think.

1251
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: This is gonna be dope? Like yeah, stupid, Like are

1252
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: you sure?

1253
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 5: It was just and then that first call when I

1254
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 5: was like yo, our first sponsorship, bro, I was on

1255
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 5: like cloud nine.

1256
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: We were like we fucking did this ship. We did it.

1257
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: We the buzz, that's the whole thing, and it's scary too,

1258
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: because you wouldn't. I mean, we're still playing with I

1259
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: think we're the only we're the only podcast, right Will

1260
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: that that's active, Well.

1261
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 5: I identified I think the McCartney twins have one, so

1262
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 5: I can't neglect that they have a pot out. But yes,

1263
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 5: we're like we're like one of the first, maybe the

1264
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 5: first in the space is.

1265
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: Like active as active NFL loops.

1266
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 3: It's cool, it's it's it's just a it's a really

1267
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: sweet gig.

1268
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 4: Man.

1269
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 3: It's cool to be a part of. It's cool to develop.

1270
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: It's cool to like look back and see like the

1271
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 2: first episodes you did and then look at what you

1272
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: do now and how much easier it is.

1273
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 3: Like you're not sweating as much.

1274
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: Like I literally was like playing with my kid and

1275
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I've got to go do a

1276
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 2: podcast now.

1277
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 5: You know.

1278
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: It's just it's fun. It's a it's a fun experience and.

1279
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: It does it.

1280
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: It may open a lot more doors, but this is

1281
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: like this whole podcast I say it all the time.

1282
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: Is was Will, Like Will was the one that was

1283
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: like I want to do this, this is my like,

1284
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 2: will you do this with me? And I was like absolutely,

1285
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: And He's from the ground up, built everything, like he

1286
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 2: constantly on calls and people calling, people like you, calling

1287
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: people like Pat McAfee, like figuring out what works and

1288
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: what doesn't. So we are learning. Curve was not so much.

1289
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 2: I just I just came here and I put this

1290
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: mic and I was like, okay, well, hey, here we are.

1291
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: You know you have money, I know, I'm sure Hawks.

1292
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna say I'm sure. Hawk sits back and

1293
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 5: identifies all this stuff.

1294
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 4: We make sure your is on, I'll take you yeah, yeah, yeah.

1295
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: Just show up on this time or make sure the

1296
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: MIC's here. He was rocking. Yo, Hey, he's serious that

1297
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: he's looking at the prepe.

1298
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 5: He was on his phone doing it with AirPods and

1299
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 5: with the Wi Fi downstairs. Now, my man looks like

1300
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 5: he's running a breakfast show right now in the morning.

1301
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm doing it, baby.

1302
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 3: Was that a couple of coffee right now?

1303
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 4: Yo?

1304
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: But Hawk, what would you like? What?

1305
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 5: What's like the cry you give to guys when they

1306
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 5: want to pick your brain, or that you urge guys

1307
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 5: in the league to do like when you're when you

1308
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 5: want you identify these young guys and you want them

1309
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 5: to be curious because you were like, Yo, this is

1310
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 5: not gonna last forever, like everyone says, not for long,

1311
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 5: but you don't know until. Like me, I always think

1312
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 5: like it's not gonna last forever. But when now that

1313
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 5: it's actually becoming a thing, I was really I had

1314
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 5: a lot of anxiety about it, so like, what is

1315
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 5: something that you try to give young guys, hey get

1316
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 5: involved in this kind of stuff.

1317
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 4: So when I got done, man, like, here's the thing

1318
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 4: about ball, And again I prepared because what happened was

1319
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 4: after I got done with college, there was a two

1320
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 4: or three year odyssey of like football being done. I

1321
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 4: was living on a couch my year after college and

1322
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 4: working at a factory and as a caddy, you know

1323
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and football was like done for me.

1324
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 4: And that was like the shittiest feeling I've ever had

1325
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 4: in my life. Not because football was done, but it's like, oh,

1326
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 4: I don't know what my identity is literally rapped in

1327
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 4: this right. I love football. I still love football, but

1328
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 4: I didn't like that feeling. So I'm like, if I

1329
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 4: can get it back going, I'm not gonna let that

1330
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 4: happen again. And even with all of that, still, when

1331
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 4: I retire from the league. You're right, there's still anxiety

1332
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 4: like this is still who I am. It's been me

1333
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 4: my whole life. I don't care how prepared you are,

1334
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 4: You're still going to have that feeling of like, man,

1335
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 4: I don't know what house is going to go. So

1336
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 4: when I talk to guys, I try to be transparent

1337
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 4: with them. Anyone who knows me is like, yo, if

1338
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 4: I go to Hawk for't don't come to me for

1339
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 4: information or advice if you don't want to hear the

1340
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 4: hard truth. I'm not your guy. You know. No, I'm funny, funny,

1341
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 4: hardy Hall with the sketches, But anyone who knows me

1342
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 4: knows I give it to you with no chaser, like

1343
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to just take this right. But when

1344
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 4: you're doing it, it's you didn't become a left tackle

1345
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 4: starting and you know, one of the highest paid and

1346
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 4: best left tackles in the league. Will you didn't have

1347
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 4: the career that you've had and you know, be able

1348
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: to go everywhere and people say, yo, he's an asset

1349
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 4: to this franchise by just coasting it right. That's the

1350
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 4: problem with a lot of guys in the league. And

1351
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 4: when you play, it's like you think that because you've

1352
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 4: done this thing here, people will scholarship you everywhere else.

1353
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 4: Not the case. So even when we had that conversation

1354
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 4: about you know when you first start busting, it was like, Yo,

1355
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 4: you got to work at this and put the same

1356
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 4: crazy amount of time, stress, anxiety on yourself that you

1357
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 4: did when you play ball. Otherwise it won't work because

1358
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 4: there are other people out here who have been doing

1359
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 4: this for thirty years that would like nothing more than

1360
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 4: the stuf off you out and make sure you don't

1361
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 4: become a thing. It is hard to become a thing

1362
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 4: and anything else when other people have devoted their lives

1363
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 4: to something. So that's a testament to y'all, man, and

1364
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 4: like for real, because you know you guys are from

1365
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 4: the start. Just put the work in, man, and there's

1366
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 4: no substitution for that. And then and again you guys

1367
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: get to reap the benefit of that.

1368
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: It's a cool thing to.

1369
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonn jump through the wall right now, about to

1370
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: run through it. I'm gonna give it to you straight.

1371
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to take all of that. Let's not

1372
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: look that comment. By the way, You're gonna have to

1373
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: take this thing, no chaser, I'm gonna have to get

1374
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: here to take all that. I was like, I'm gonna

1375
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: finish finishes because it was really good.

1376
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 5: But I know, hey, but Hawk was like one thing

1377
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 5: that Hawg did that I thought was dope was you

1378
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 5: were saying that you ordered a bunch of jerseys when

1379
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 5: you got done playing, and anybody you wanted to have

1380
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 5: a conversation with, you would basically write a letter with

1381
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 5: that jersey and ship it to them because you knew

1382
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 5: anybody who gets.

1383
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: A jersey at their officer, oh, you know, they want

1384
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: to show it off.

1385
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 5: And everything, but talk about talk about talk about doing that.

1386
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean it's it's like people like being

1387
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 4: told like that you know you appreciate them, right, or

1388
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 4: that you see what they're doing. And that's one person,

1389
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 4: that's all. That's how I am. If I see somebody

1390
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 4: doing something dope or that I'm impressed with, I tell

1391
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 4: them so again. When I was got done playing at Toledo,

1392
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 4: the prestigious college that it is, don't don't hate shout

1393
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 4: out to Brett Kerr by the way, shout together, that's

1394
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 4: my guy. But yeah, so when I got done there

1395
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 4: and like being like, hey, I played at Toledo it

1396
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 4: didn't get me anywhere, even like the benefit that did

1397
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 4: while I was playing there had fallen off because no

1398
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 4: one cares about when you're done, right. It's just a

1399
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 4: lot of people can say they used to play in

1400
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 4: the NFL. How many people can say, like, yo, start

1401
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 4: receiver for the Browns. Right now, I'm a leading receiver.

1402
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 4: So when I got to that point, I would go

1403
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 4: to my equipment guy. I would buy one hundred, you know,

1404
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 4: fifty to one hundred jerseys every off season game jerseys,

1405
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 4: and I would write a letter, sign the jersey, assign

1406
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 4: it to somebody, and write a letter to someone that

1407
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 4: I looked up to, someone I would love to pick

1408
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 4: the brain of, someone I wanted to have lunch with,

1409
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 4: a coffee, someone I wanted advice from, and I would

1410
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 4: send it to them call in the mail. And I'm

1411
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 4: not even kidding. Those relationships that I built through that

1412
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 4: are still what keep me afloat to this day because

1413
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 4: people will remember how you treated them when you're on top, right,

1414
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 4: Like when you were the man? Were you doing this?

1415
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 4: When you're done, everyone was going to reach out. Like

1416
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 4: when you're done playing, every former player starts hitting up

1417
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 4: the network. Hey remember me? People are used they see

1418
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 4: through that, like, but when you're on top and you're

1419
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 4: reaching out, they will treat you like you treated them

1420
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 4: at that moment for the rest of your life. So

1421
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 4: that was the mindset.

1422
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: Man, Did you want to work for NFL Network? Did

1423
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: you want to like be a part of that?

1424
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the situation happened. I I did not

1425
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 4: think that I was going to be able to do media.

1426
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 4: You know, I had no because I didn't win any

1427
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 4: Super Bowls. I played for the Bengals and Browns, never

1428
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 4: won a playoff game, never been to the Pro Bowl,

1429
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 4: a reality show in Canada, you know what I'm saying.

1430
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 4: I didn't think I had a chance to be honest,

1431
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 4: so when I started doing stuff, I'm like, Okay, if

1432
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 4: my personality isn't what's gonna make me shine, then it

1433
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 4: just ain't happening because that's not the resume that you

1434
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 4: typically look for. So I started doing stuff at ESPN,

1435
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 4: and I would just make sure I would pass up

1436
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 4: on good opportunities and just being like yo, like I

1437
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 4: need to showcase my personality and being able to do

1438
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 4: funny stuff. And I host the Sports are Own Snap

1439
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 4: and it got nominated for Emmy. So when the NFL

1440
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 4: seen that and they started reaching out, like, yo, we

1441
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 4: want to make sure that we're kind of keeping up

1442
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 4: with the times and you know, putting out content that

1443
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 4: people are used to in these times. And who better

1444
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 4: to do it than one of our own. I thought

1445
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 4: it was because again, like you know, you spend your

1446
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 4: whole life. You don't get to the NFL in accident.

1447
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 4: You've been trying to do that since you were seven, right,

1448
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 4: like so that you can say what you want about

1449
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 4: the shield, but it's shaped a lot of our lives,

1450
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. We could talk all the

1451
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 4: mess we want to as players and don't do that

1452
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 4: other but the shield has been something You've been trying

1453
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 4: to acquire your entire life. So to be on this

1454
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 4: side of it and be able to be myself do

1455
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 4: funny stuff about the thing that I'm an expert at,

1456
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 4: which is football. Come on, man, you can't beat that.

1457
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 5: You I was gonna say, hey, he dropped the mic

1458
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 5: on that one, and now hey, now he's out there.

1459
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 5: Have you seen his impressions of the last dance. I

1460
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 5: know you got to go here like within five minutes, sailor, but.

1461
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: Have you seen these impressions of the last dance.

1462
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 5: No, hey, hey, got best one?

1463
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: Bar nine is your Dennis Rodman one. I mean that, Hey, Yo,

1464
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: that one is.

1465
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 4: Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Man, I was nervous.

1466
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 4: I almost didn't put those out. Man, Bro, it's.

1467
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy how that works.

1468
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 5: Like I wrote in two like like blogs that I've

1469
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 5: taken serious and I'm super nervous when I'm about to

1470
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 5: like put something out, when it's like, all right, I'm

1471
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 5: gonna do this, but then when people start hitting you

1472
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 5: and like, yo, that's awesome, like especially teammates like you

1473
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 5: were saying it, like when somebody reaches out, that's kind

1474
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 5: of you see as a peer of yours, and hey,

1475
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 5: that's really cool and like gives you that confidence like okay,

1476
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 5: all right, I was doing the right thing.

1477
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm just in my own head about it. But Yo,

1478
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: that Dennis Robins kit is fucking hilarious.

1479
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 4: Bro, I appreciate it. Man.

1480
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 5: Hey, it's probably probably the best one, the best impression,

1481
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 5: best video, mock you mocking anything I've seen about the

1482
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 5: last dance.

1483
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 3: Like that is you are so chatting this video.

1484
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 5: Hey, when he goes he puts on there he goes,

1485
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 5: who is this?

1486
01:02:51,040 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, like, yo, that is so good.

1487
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 4: Who is this?

1488
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: You fucking crushed that whole video? Dude? Do you just

1489
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: set that up in your house?

1490
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 5: Like? Are you just at home and you're like that,

1491
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 5: You set it up and you're like the wife and

1492
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 5: kids like they step out and you just do your

1493
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 5: like you're working.

1494
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 4: So when I retired, just like I told you, I

1495
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,479
Speaker 4: didn't think anybody would give me a chance in media.

1496
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 4: So I'm like, I'm just gonna start doing stuff on

1497
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 4: my own. So I bought a green screen, I bought

1498
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 4: a camera, I bought lights. This is in twenty seventeen,

1499
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 4: and I just had them in my carpet. I moved

1500
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 4: here to La for the job, and uninterrupted, like a

1501
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 4: year later, They've been sitting in my garage for three years,

1502
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 4: all this equipment, and when this quarantine hit, I set

1503
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 4: it all up and was like, well, I got this,

1504
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 4: this is it, this is it, and boom, here we are.

1505
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 6: Man.

1506
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 4: I just started just doing it and putting it out,

1507
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 4: and you edited.

1508
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: You did all the editing.

1509
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 4: I do the editing. I shoot it, I do the audio,

1510
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 4: I got the mics, I do the green screen, the

1511
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 4: graphics and yeah, bro, more you can do. Man.

1512
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm not that he is crazy.

1513
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 5: Man. That fires me up. I'm just like, funk, I

1514
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 5: gotta know more, dude, I gotta do it.

1515
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: Took me an hour and a half to figure out

1516
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: how to set up this mic. Plug it in, that's

1517
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 2: all you gotta do.

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Speaker 3: How the fun does this thing work?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: You just plug it in? Thanks.

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Speaker 4: I was sewing my head about the sketches too, man,

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01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 4: I mean, because, like you said, you sit there with

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Speaker 4: it so long. You're like, Yo, this is the dumbest

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01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 4: thing I've ever done. It right, The jokes are terrible.

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01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 4: I don't look like Dennis Robbin. You sound like an idiot.

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Speaker 4: So I sent it to my brother and I was

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Speaker 4: just like, Yo, here's a sketch I did a couple

1528
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 4: of days ago, like just to you know, let me.

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01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 4: He was like, dude, why haven't you posted this? And

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Speaker 4: I'm like, what do you mean? He's yo, this is hilarious.

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01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here laughing like I don't even know.

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Speaker 3: I was all right, and I'm literally excited to watch

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Speaker 3: the end of the video. You look at the thing

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Speaker 3: and it's Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Tell you go, who is this is so funny.

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Speaker 3: Dude, I was the best teammate to ever live. That's

1537
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 3: the funny that right now.

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01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 4: Have you guys been watching Last Dance? Yeah, yeah, you'll

1539
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 4: definitely appreciate you. Gotta check it.

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Speaker 5: Yo. Hey, the last weekend when I saw Dennis come on,

1541
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 5: I legit sort of just kind of like that soft chuckle,

1542
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 5: just because all I was thinking about is your fucking video.

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01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 4: Dude.

1544
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 5: That's so funny.

1545
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: That's dude, you were an epic Thank you for coming on.

1546
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 2: Thank you for molding Will into making this an epic podcast.

1547
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 3: You you are Busting with the Boys.

1548
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 4: I am.

1549
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 3: Three of us for being the best podcast ever.

1550
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 4: We get it.

1551
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Speaker 5: Hey, when you come to Nashville, you have to get

1552
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 5: on the bush.

1553
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 4: It's a done deal. It's a done deal. Keep it warm.

1554
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 4: I am on the bus.

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Speaker 1: Bro all right, bro, Hey, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: E comment by.

1557
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 4: And love fellas appreciate you.

1558
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Man, have a good one.

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Speaker 5: Guys, gals, people of all, just appreciate you so much

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Speaker 5: for tuning in to another episode of Busting with the Boys.

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1570
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Speaker 5: we're at is because of you guys, So we like

1571
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Speaker 5: to keep it fucking organic and just from us, dude

1572
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1573
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1584
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1585
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Speaker 5: so much. Keep being for the fucking boys, Keep being

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Speaker 5: We love you, We appreciate you. Tune in next week

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Speaker 5: for another episode of Bust with the Boys.

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Speaker 1: Man, well, the

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Speaker 4: Drugs stops facing jobs.