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Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live presented by Callida Health. All right,

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Speaker 1: we are back here on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker with you. Welcome in, Glad you made us part

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Speaker 1: of your afternoon. Happy to have you with us. As

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Speaker 1: the players are back on the practice field getting ready

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Speaker 1: for the week sixteen matchup with the Browns and Steve

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Speaker 1: and I mentioned it on the show yesterday. Weather doesn't

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Speaker 1: look too bad for Cleveland on Sunday. It might be

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Speaker 1: some wind, but no pre sip in the forecast, mid

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Speaker 1: to upper thirties, so totally parable in mid December, mid

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Speaker 2: Actually that's not bad. I mean it's not comfortable, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's fine. They'll be able to play.

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Speaker 1: Well jam packed show for you today. We'll get into

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Speaker 1: the details of all of that in just a bit.

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Speaker 1: I find it weird that it was so terribly cold

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Speaker 1: something and everything's melting so everyone, I don't know, it's

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Speaker 1: supposed to get cold again next week. It was unseasonably

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Speaker 1: cold the first half of December. We kind of got

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Speaker 2: We'll go out a limb and say, yeah, it's we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have some cold days in the future here pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: Well, aren't you a suit?

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Speaker 2: Mid December, it'll probably get a little colder and stay

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Speaker 2: out of it. Winter is not done with us. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but this forty degrees.

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Speaker 1: Today, come on, it felt like spring. I feel like

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Speaker 2: I feel like I could play golf.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. How your body is just let's go, conditioned by.

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Speaker 2: The condition it's been so cold. But yeah, this is great.

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Speaker 1: I'll take it. Yeh for latest bit of a reset.

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Speaker 1: Want to get right to the Bill's practice updates, which

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Speaker 1: are presented by Lee Coom. You're Lake Erie College of

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Speaker 1: Osteopathic Medicine, and we already knew. So this came as

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Speaker 1: no surprise that Jordan Phillips and kicker Matt Prater both

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Speaker 1: not practicing today. That's because both have already been declared

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Speaker 1: out for Sunday's game against the Browns with ankle and

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Speaker 1: quad injuries, respectively. So the Bills late yesterday after we

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Speaker 1: were off the air, signed veteran kicker Michael Badgeley to

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Speaker 1: the practice squad, so end of the week he's obviously

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Speaker 1: Browns kickfield goals, presumably kickoff as well. Badgely, an eighty

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Speaker 1: three percent career kicker, kicked for Indianapolis for seven games

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Speaker 1: earlier this season, where he was ten for eleven, his

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Speaker 1: only miss coming from fifty yards plus. To make room

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Speaker 1: for him on the roster, the Bills released cornerback MJ.

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Speaker 1: to the practice squad roster last week. And then in

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Speaker 1: other news injury wise, Christian Benford with the toe injury

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Speaker 1: Or stepped on or jammed his toe knuckle or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all this stuff's this stuff's game to game injuries,

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Speaker 2: You know, I know how crazy it is. I told

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Speaker 2: When twenty one days is over, the Raidar season's over

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Speaker 1: Well, they you talked about it yesterday. They are getting

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Speaker 2: And this is nothing against Khalil Shakir. I said it yesterday.

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Speaker 2: the stress. It's the worst job in football returning punts.

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Speaker 2: There's no question in my mind. I've said it before.

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Speaker 2: lose it for everybody. It's a high stakes position and

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Speaker 2: your decision making is key, and Khalil Shakir's got too

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Speaker 2: then you go from there get as much as you can. Well,

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Speaker 2: Khalil couldn't even field punts this last week. He couldn't

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen the impact that the kick return

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Speaker 1: Steve says all the time, if your punt returner can

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, if he catches it on his

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Speaker 2: you know, Khalil, it was a bad punt, I'll admit that,

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Speaker 2: so you can't afford that stuff. So I would think

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Speaker 2: you're right, Brownie that if Hardman comes up, you can

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Speaker 2: bet he gets plugged right in.

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Speaker 1: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. And there is big

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Speaker 1: AFC East news today as the Miami Dolphins are benching

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Speaker 1: quarterback to a Tongavioloa and turning to rookie quinn Ewers

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Speaker 1: as their new starter. Yours first start will come Sunday

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Speaker 1: against the Cincinnati Bengals. You are served as the team's

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling if you're Zach Wilson, the backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You've been leap frogged by a guy who hasn't played.

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Speaker 2: h listen, Zach coach wants to see him bring your playbook,

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Speaker 2: you know, man? That's yeah, he got he got hopped over.

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Speaker 2: Now they they're they're in a total next year mode,

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Speaker 2: no question, so they do need to find out what

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Speaker 2: yours is. It's a smart move and the ownership at

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Speaker 2: this point does not care if they lose these games.

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Speaker 2: They do not care. It's a better draft pick, more

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Speaker 1: Well, they tanked for to us, so make of that

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Speaker 1: And he can run around, conceivably.

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Speaker 2: That Pittsburgh game, Miami Pittsburgh game in the cold weather.

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Speaker 2: I could not believe the level of quarterback play to

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel said in his Monday press conference the next

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Speaker 2: We just saw this. We're watching these highlights. The interception,

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Speaker 2: It was rough, and that.

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Speaker 1: Was That was not the first That's that's his game.

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Speaker 2: That's his whole game. He has to let the ball

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Speaker 4: What's up, Jeff, Hey, guys, I'm trying to reach her

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Speaker 1: buzz down and say the ball was bobbled, he didn't

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Speaker 1: get two feet in bounds. It's an incomplete pass. So

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Speaker 1: that your discrepancy is well noted, because Steve was talking

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Speaker 1: about it for ten minutes on Monday, there has to

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Speaker 1: be a way.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots have made it clear in their rhetoric that

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Speaker 2: was under Belichick at the time, but they made it

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Speaker 2: clear they will push the envelope and they will do

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Speaker 2: whatever they can get away with. They've made that clear.

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Speaker 2: So and now things like this happen. It makes you

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Speaker 2: suspect that it was deliberate, but there's no we don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're not going to pretend to know how angles

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Speaker 1: of video are provided to the League replay assistant. We

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Speaker 1: don't know how that path works. So it's hard for

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Speaker 1: us to make judgment calls or opinions without definitive evidence

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Speaker 1: as to whether or not the Patriots in their building

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Speaker 1: are providing the replay assistant with any and all video

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Speaker 1: that they need. I would like to believe that the

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Speaker 1: League replay assistant and the people providing him with video

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Speaker 1: have control of what he does and does not see,

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Speaker 1: not the people running the scoreboard presentation in Jillette Stadium.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not going to pretend to know the pathway

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Speaker 1: of that video. So I don't know, But yes, we're

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Speaker 1: right there with you. Tom Ye to Aaron in Oregon.

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Speaker 1: What you got first?

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Speaker 6: Aaron, Hey, guys, Hey, thanks for taking my call. I

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Speaker 6: have a couple of things. First, I wanted to thank

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Speaker 6: you guys for telling me that you had more than

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Speaker 6: one hundred hats or something like that when you were

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Speaker 6: at New Areas. Oh yeah, I have that sickness myself,

463
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Speaker 6: and my wife is always like, you already have. I'm like,

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Speaker 6: but I don't have that hat. So appreciate you saying

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Speaker 6: that and validates me a little bit. But I wanted

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Speaker 6: to kind of savor some of the some of the

467
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Speaker 6: rivals losing last week and being out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to take the browns lightly because we've

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Speaker 6: done that a couple of times this year and we

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Speaker 6: need to play our best game, But having the Chiefs

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Speaker 6: be out of the playoffs, having the Dolphins be out,

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Speaker 6: I just want to, you know, have you guys talk

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Speaker 6: about what that means to the Bills. And then also

474
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Speaker 6: like how the Dolphins fell so fast from being up

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Speaker 6: on us in the division and us walking them down

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Speaker 6: and you know how quickly that went from that high

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Speaker 6: point to where they're at now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a flawed Bill, Aaron. I think many

479
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Speaker 1: of us could see it from the outside looking in

480
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Speaker 1: the build that was orchestrated by now former GM Chris Greer,

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Speaker 1: who was fired about a month and a half ago.

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Speaker 1: Was was just not the way you put it together.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not even talking about the quarterback that they

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Speaker 1: drafted fifth overall in twenty twenty in Tua. I'm talking

485
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Speaker 1: about everything else. High priced contract extensions for long in

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Speaker 1: the tooth players. Bradley Chubb coming off a major knee injury,

487
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Speaker 1: given one hundred and twenty five million dollar contract after

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Speaker 1: they orchestrated a trade with the Broncos. Jalen Phillips getting

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Speaker 1: a contract extension after an Achilles injury, Jalen Ramsey at

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Speaker 1: age thirty getting a ridiculous contract extension from the front

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Speaker 1: office there, and then it's traded one year later, So

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Speaker 1: now you're eating that cap money they traded Jalen Phillips,

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Speaker 1: You're eating that cap money. So I just think there

494
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Speaker 1: were a lot of dubious, long range, big money decisions

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Speaker 1: made by that GM that not only hamstrung the organization

496
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Speaker 1: now but even down the line here because they're going

497
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Speaker 1: to still have dead money sitting on their cap next year,

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Speaker 1: not to mention the fact that you also paid to

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Speaker 1: fifty three million dollars a year. Do you know the

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Speaker 1: cap hit if they want to move on from two

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Speaker 1: of this offseason. It's ninety nine million dollars in dead cap,

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Speaker 1: ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: I might still do it.

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Speaker 1: It's a record. It would be an NFL record.

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Speaker 2: Dead Denver did it. The build was all wrong, that

506
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Speaker 2: the GM of the Miami doll The reason they failed

507
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Speaker 2: the way they did is they were playing fantasy football.

508
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Speaker 2: They were picking names and reputations and and they were

509
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Speaker 2: picking superficial numbers and not digging deep into what was

510
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Speaker 2: gonna happen long term. And they paid the price for

511
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Speaker 2: it financially and and thereby their roster suffered because of it.

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Speaker 2: So that's that the I don't I'm not buying it obviously,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm not buying into this easy AFC bracket because

514
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Speaker 2: there's no homes, no Lamar, and maybe no Lamar, the

515
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks and all this stuff about oh Josh, is it's

516
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Speaker 2: easy now The Chiefs are out of it and all that,

517
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Speaker 2: and it's gonna be hard. The teams that are in

518
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Speaker 2: there earned it. It's not easy to win games in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Denver's going to be a really difficult place

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Speaker 2: to play the rest of these that you name it, Denver, Denver,

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Speaker 2: New England, New England, Jacksonville, Pittsburgh, Buck Houston. So it's

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Speaker 2: not going to be easy to win the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: this year. People think that all those the players, Joe Burrow,

524
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Speaker 2: Pat mahomes lamar, all these guys, I think, ah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: now it's easier. No, the whole team's gotta win. The

526
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Speaker 2: whole team's gotta win. And that's been the criticism of

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Speaker 2: why Josh hasn't won it. He's played out standing in

528
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Speaker 2: playoff games then been able to help him enough to

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Speaker 2: get him there. That's been one of the criticisms. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to do that this year. You're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to get more help for him this year. It's not

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Speaker 2: gonna be easy winning the Super Bowl. I'm sorry. No

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Speaker 2: matter how much easy think it is, it's not gonna

534
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Speaker 2: be easier. It's not necessarily gonna be easier than it

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Speaker 2: was last year. I mean, the Chiefs were fifteen and two,

536
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Speaker 2: they were eleven and zero in one score games. I

537
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Speaker 2: mean that seems fragile to me, and believe me, we

538
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Speaker 2: saw how fragile it was this year. So yeah, no,

539
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Speaker 2: it's not gonna be easy. It's gonna be really tough,

540
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Speaker 2: particularly since the Bills looked like they're gonna be on

541
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Speaker 2: the road for three games just to get.

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Speaker 1: There, But they did have a total team effort in

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Speaker 1: the second half, sparked by the guy we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk to in the next segment, your NFL kick return

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Speaker 1: average leader one Ray Davis joined us in studio. Next

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Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 7: Stay with us all.

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Speaker 1: Right back here on one Bill's Live, Chris Brown Steve

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Speaker 1: Tactu joined in studio by a guy who should be

550
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Speaker 1: getting some Pro Bowl consideration in the return game as

551
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Speaker 1: a specialist for the AFC. It is Ray Davis, who

552
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Speaker 1: currently leads the NFL in kick return average and had

553
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Speaker 1: another big day last week, four returns for one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty four big ones, including the spark that got

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Speaker 1: everything started in the second half. And Ray I kind

556
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Speaker 1: of noticed this right out of the shoot because we're

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Speaker 1: getting ready for the uh kickoff that you guys took

558
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Speaker 1: after the Patriots first drive, and there you are back

559
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Speaker 1: by yourself. You don't have your running mate, Ti Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, here's a little wrinkle, and you

561
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Speaker 1: had Reggie in front of you. How much did coach

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Speaker 1: Tabor want to get in the lab with your return

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Speaker 1: game and maybe throw a couple of curve balls at

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Speaker 1: those guys.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we talked about it all throughout the week.

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Speaker 9: We're just kind of like, can we do it as

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Speaker 9: a comfortability level there.

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Speaker 10: Just in terms of he could spray the ball and

569
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Speaker 10: left the right, right to left.

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Speaker 9: So once I took them, I was comfortable with it,

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Speaker 9: and once meeting Reggie was on the same page of

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Speaker 9: how we viewed things in terms of, you know, the

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Speaker 9: blocking and the spacing between us.

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Speaker 10: It was like, oh, let's let's go out there and

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Speaker 10: put that's.

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Speaker 1: A good guy to run behind him.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were sitting here waiting to come on and

579
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Speaker 2: you were talking about the return game and the particular

580
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Speaker 2: last one, the third return you put out there. It

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have happened had you not had a chance to

582
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Speaker 2: have a conversation with those guys in front of you

583
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Speaker 2: because some specifics about blocking, who they're picking up in

584
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Speaker 2: the angles and all that give us some insight as

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Speaker 2: to that those conversations.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I mean plans other teams and also

587
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Speaker 9: being on kor it's like going to a symphony, right,

588
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Speaker 9: like everybody has to be on the same note. If

589
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Speaker 9: one guy is now on the note. Then it just

590
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Speaker 9: doesn't hit right, you know, and that's kind of how

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Speaker 9: it is. And kickoff return. You have to be able

592
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Speaker 9: to communicate it's eleven guys on the field, but you know,

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Speaker 9: I always say it's twelve guys because you're here in Tabor.

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Speaker 9: Taber sees the same thing that I see, right, So

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Speaker 9: I know if I see something, Tape seeing it, Reggie

596
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Speaker 9: seeing it, and everybody's seeing it. So it's important to

597
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Speaker 9: all be on that same note. It's important to all

598
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Speaker 9: communicate because one person block could be you know, could

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Speaker 9: spring that touchdown right.

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Speaker 1: And on that first one of the second half, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, I, oh, it's not Reggie is the

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Speaker 1: up man. We got Alec out there. Look out now

603
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Speaker 1: because now I would imagine though, and this is no

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Speaker 1: knock on Alec. He's he weighs three hundred pounds, Reggie

605
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Speaker 1: weighs two fifty. Uh Alec is gonna fill maybe take

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Speaker 1: him a little longer to get up to that first block.

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Speaker 1: So how do you have to adjust your timing when

608
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Speaker 1: you got a three hundred pounder in front of you

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Speaker 1: it as opposed to a two hundred and fifty pounder

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Speaker 1: you got to be mindful of that, right, No.

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Speaker 8: A little bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if it isn't all that different.

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Speaker 9: Nuts, I mean, it's like playing running backs like es

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Speaker 9: sid zone, right, you know, you got to be able

615
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Speaker 9: to set up your blocker, put them in on the

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Speaker 9: defender and then cut off right and be able to

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Speaker 9: be confident in your cut. So in that situation there,

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Speaker 9: it was about making sure Alec was in the right

619
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Speaker 9: position to make the key block and then you know,

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Speaker 9: getting cutting off him and being confident hitting the whole because.

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Speaker 1: They walled that thing up.

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Speaker 5: Nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really nice. How much of a difference

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Speaker 2: hasn't made this year that you can really focus in

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Speaker 2: on this thing? I mean last year you were kind

626
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Speaker 2: of you were kind of double teaming with the offense

627
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Speaker 2: and you were getting some reps at running back. Now

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Speaker 2: they put your kickoff return and it's like, Ray, get

629
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Speaker 2: this done and you really contributed. How big a difference

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Speaker 2: does it mean having some offense taken off your plate

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Speaker 2: and give me that kickoff return? You can really like

632
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Speaker 2: have conversations between series and talk to guys who are

633
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Speaker 2: going to be out there. How big a difference that make?

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Speaker 9: I mean it's huge, you know, last year, I was

635
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Speaker 9: a rookie, so I was a little bit timid to

636
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 9: talk to everybody and explain the things that I saw.

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Speaker 9: And now coming in a year or two, Tames just

638
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Speaker 9: kind of gave me a little bit of freedom to

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Speaker 9: see things how I see it and communicate with him

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Speaker 9: and communic communicate with the guys.

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Speaker 8: But I mean it feels good.

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Speaker 9: I have a role, you know, trying to stick around

643
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Speaker 9: as much as I can to just be relevant. You know,

644
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Speaker 9: obviously I would love to be getting some reps on offense,

645
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Speaker 9: but you know, I got to embrace my role, embrace my.

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Speaker 10: Journey and whatever it takes.

647
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Speaker 9: And you know, this is my moment, this is my opportunity,

648
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Speaker 9: and it takes eleven guys to make it happen. And

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Speaker 9: I'm happy to be one of the eleven guys on

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Speaker 9: our special teams to make things shake.

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Speaker 1: Talking with Bill's running back Ray Davis as player, interview

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Speaker 1: appearances on One Bill's Live or presented by Tim Hortons.

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Speaker 1: Tim Hortons is the official coffee of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: So Pro Bowl voting for fans ended yesterday, but I

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Speaker 1: know our social media team was, you know, trying to

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Speaker 1: get the word out every pump your tires up and

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Speaker 1: get you as many fan votes as possible. Now it

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Speaker 1: comes down to coaches and players on other teams, and

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Speaker 1: I know that sometimes there's guys you know elsewhere it's like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: appreciate any support you could give me, Like you gotta

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Speaker 1: lobby a little bit. Yeah, you gotta lobby a little bit.

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Speaker 8: I did a lot of that in the beginning.

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Speaker 9: I think probably the past like two weeks, I've been

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Speaker 9: pushing myself. I didn't even know I was an option,

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Speaker 9: and then I think the NFL like sent me a

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Speaker 9: text like do you want us to make you a

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Speaker 9: Pro Bowl graphic? And I was like, yeah, yeah, I've

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Speaker 9: been posting it ever since I got some left in

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Speaker 9: the Bills.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 8: So it'd be a blessing.

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Speaker 9: And the honor to get to that Pro Bowl, because again,

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Speaker 9: it just shows all the hard work that I put

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Speaker 9: in throughout this season.

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Speaker 1: I know that everybody you kind of got on the

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Speaker 1: radar after that ninety seven yarder in Houston, and I

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Speaker 1: know the game didn't turn out the way you guys wanted,

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Speaker 1: But how much has that return that went the distance

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Speaker 1: kind of inspired your group?

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Speaker 8: Oh one hundred percent? Once I felt that in Houston

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Speaker 8: every week.

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Speaker 9: I mean Tabs could tell you like I just kept saying,

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna take one, like I'm getting closer and I'm

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Speaker 9: getting closer. And it was just about not making any

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Speaker 9: mistakes and putting any of my other guys in any

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Speaker 9: bad positions when it comes to blocking again, how they

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Speaker 9: see it is how I see it. And it's the

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Speaker 9: communication every time.

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Speaker 2: And give us an idea of what feedback you're getting

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Speaker 2: from the you know, the other ten guys that are

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Speaker 2: out there with you. You know you take that back

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Speaker 2: in Houston. How did the conversations and the attitude and

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Speaker 2: the energy change.

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Speaker 9: Oh, I mean it changed tremendously because we knew we

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Speaker 9: could do it. I mean we were always so close.

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Speaker 9: You look at some of the Tampa Bay games. I

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Speaker 9: mean we were always so close. And Tapes would always

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Speaker 9: joke around. He was my biggest believer. He said, I

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Speaker 9: know you can get past the fifty. And I wouldn't

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Speaker 9: believe it myself, but he would believe it. And you

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Speaker 9: tell me all the time, I know you can get

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Speaker 9: past the fifty. And then we just start making out

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Speaker 9: a thing like we don't want to just get to

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Speaker 9: the thirty five, like our goal is we're trying to

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Speaker 9: get to the forty and more like that's what it

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Speaker 9: is on KR for us.

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Speaker 1: And then now now you're on everybody's radar, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about these future opponents coming up. How are you

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Speaker 1: going to handle that? Knowing that there might be some

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Speaker 1: teams that don't even want to give you an opportunity,

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Speaker 1: and just having the discipline to say, okay, like they're

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Speaker 1: just going to kick it in the end zone, let

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Speaker 1: me help our offense. I'll take the knee here and

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Speaker 1: give them the ball at to thirty five. As much

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Speaker 1: as I want to help and get this thing and

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Speaker 1: take it out, you know, I got to be smart

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Speaker 1: and do what's best for our team.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I mean that's like matureing. You know, I had to mature.

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Speaker 9: I think that Houston game, I brought it out that

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Speaker 9: second return. I got too greedy, and you know, Taves

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Speaker 9: came over to me. It's a sign of respect. Look

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Speaker 9: at it like that. It's a sign of respect when

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Speaker 9: people are okay with starting at the thirty five because

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Speaker 9: they know you could probably get past it. And that's

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Speaker 9: where I had to sit back and understand that it's

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Speaker 9: a it's a sign of respect. And you got to

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Speaker 9: put the offense in the best field position. If I

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Speaker 9: can't get them to the.

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Speaker 8: Forty or pass the forty, well accept the thirty five.

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Speaker 2: I said, this was I said that, yeah, that was

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Speaker 2: the best decision you made against the Patriots. And after

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Speaker 2: they've snapped off the big sixty five yard or to

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Speaker 2: answer back and take the lead back, you kept it

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Speaker 2: in the end zone. And I thought, man, that's really

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Speaker 2: smart because the one thing you don't want to do

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Speaker 2: is have nothing anything beat. But you don't want to

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Speaker 2: get tackled inside the twenty. You don't want to, you know,

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Speaker 2: Heaven forbid turn it over. You don't want anything like that.

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Speaker 2: To give them even more momentum. Just take the knee,

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Speaker 2: let Josh and the offense come back out and just

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Speaker 2: pick up where they left off. That was a really

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Speaker 2: not easy decision because, right because you're hungry, because you're

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Speaker 2: already you know, right, so you were feeling it, But

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Speaker 2: you know what, it was the right decision. And I thought, man,

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Speaker 2: that is that was really a mature decision.

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Speaker 9: I appreciate that. I said, it's Tabor Man. TAM's always

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Speaker 9: telling me just think about it. From a respect aspect.

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Speaker 9: You know, if they want to kick in an end

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Speaker 9: zone and give you a free thirty five, that means

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Speaker 9: they're scared of this the Special Teams.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Let's get to this week's tim Bits time Out,

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Speaker 1: presented by of course, Tim Horton's, where we have the

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Speaker 1: fans ask Bill's players a unique question. This one comes

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Speaker 1: from Andrew. Who's gonna put you on the spot a

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Speaker 1: little bit here. Who's your favorite blocker in the return game?

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Speaker 1: Is it Alec Anderson or Reggie Gilliams. So somebody else

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Speaker 1: was watching closely last week? Who's getting the bigger Christmas present?

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Speaker 11: Ah?

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Speaker 8: You know, I love Alec, He's our old lineman and

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Speaker 8: he does.

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Speaker 10: Everything for us.

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Speaker 9: But I gotta go with hopefully my future pro bowler,

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Speaker 9: Reggie Gillman.

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Speaker 10: You know, I gotta go Regie Man.

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Speaker 9: What he's been doing all Special Teams, he has been,

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Speaker 9: you know, really just us, the secret sauce and everything

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Speaker 9: we do when it comes to communication. I mean, that's

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Speaker 9: the guy that I go to and say, hey, what

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Speaker 9: do you think about this?

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Speaker 10: Ryan?

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Speaker 9: Do you think you kick out here? You think it

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Speaker 9: be potentially a cutback? So Reggie definitely is big kudos

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Speaker 9: to regimen.

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Speaker 1: And killing it on offense.

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Speaker 9: I'm still killing it too. I mean that's why I

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Speaker 9: said he deserves a Pro Bowl. Man, that is that

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Speaker 9: guy right there deserves.

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Speaker 10: To be out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he does so much. And I always thought, you know,

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Speaker 2: those are the guys you called. There's nothing else to

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Speaker 2: call him except their athletes or you know, their football players.

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Speaker 2: They got to do everything. You got to drop back

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Speaker 2: and block, you got to go forward and carry the ball.

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Speaker 2: You got to catch the ball, run routes.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Guys like Gilliam and you doing this kickoff return thing

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Speaker 2: and being a running back. There's so many things they

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Speaker 2: ask you to do athletically and of course mentally. It's man,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot of fun to be able to contribute

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Speaker 2: in those many in that many ways.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, thank you. It's it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Ray, Thanks for the time. Stay healthy. Uh and keep

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Speaker 1: keep popping them, man, keep popping them. Can't wait to

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Speaker 1: see another one.

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Speaker 10: Appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Christ that's running back. Ray Davis joining us. We'll take

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Speaker 1: a break here, get back to the phone calls. When

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Speaker 1: we return here on One Bill's Live, I'm presented by

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Speaker 1: a lot of health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio Time for

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Speaker 1: from the Coach's Office, presented by c FBT Copyr Facts

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Speaker 1: Business Technology, the official office technology company of the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills and Steve. You know, they're drawing it up every

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Speaker 1: which way they possibly can to come up with a

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Speaker 1: plan to neutralize or at least slow down Miles camera. Yes,

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Speaker 1: how many different ways are they drawing it up right now?

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Speaker 1: Like anything and everything they think could work, they're gonna try.

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Speaker 2: And it's not Yeah, it's not about making it work.

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Speaker 2: It's about finding out where he is and if he's here,

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Speaker 2: you two guys got him. If he's over here, you

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Speaker 2: two guys got him. If he's here under this protection,

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Speaker 2: you guys got him. It's plural, yes, absolutely, it's how

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Speaker 2: and a lot of it is how vulnerable are we

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Speaker 2: going to make ourselves by making sure he's taken care

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Speaker 2: of and what the rest of the guys are doing.

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Speaker 2: You could send you know, your your guard tackle out

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Speaker 2: to get Miles, but then you might have to have

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Speaker 2: a tight end in motion, come over and slide in

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Speaker 2: there to you know, to fill that gap between the

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Speaker 2: center guard. All of that stuff's going to be on

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Speaker 2: the table, and it is. It's all gonna be about

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Speaker 2: where is he, who's got him? When he's there under

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Speaker 2: this protection or that protection or the other protection. And

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Speaker 2: that's it. You got to be on it. And you

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Speaker 2: can bet Josh say ninety five's right there.

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Speaker 1: Got to be hyper aware of his location, hyper aware,

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Speaker 1: hyper aware, and they will move him around, so they

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Speaker 1: have to be prepared for that. So that's from the

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Speaker 1: coach's Office, presented by c FBT copy of Facts Business Technology.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones at eight o three

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Speaker 1: zero five to fifty one eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty and to Ron in Rochester next, what's up Ron?

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Speaker 5: How you doing guys?

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Speaker 4: Merry Christmas?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you too, Harry Christmas.

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Speaker 12: As a coach, I look at a few of the

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Speaker 12: different things, for example, broken plays, broken plays in the

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Speaker 12: first half, considering broken plays in the second half an

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Speaker 12: all year long. For example, the New England game, we've

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Speaker 12: had broken plays of a number of nine or ten

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Speaker 12: broken plays, five for losses. That was just a New

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Speaker 12: England game. In the second half we still had six

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Speaker 12: broken plays, but only three for losses. Now, I know

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Speaker 12: everybody in upstate New York wants to solid four quarters,

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Speaker 12: but I want to hear what you guys have to

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Speaker 12: say about the broken plays and going forward and being

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Speaker 12: consistent with four orders.

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys, you bet sure thing.

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Speaker 1: I think we all know, whether you are a former

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Speaker 1: coach like Ron or not, that playing a perfect four

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Speaker 1: quarter game in a league as competitive as the NFL

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Speaker 1: is virtually impossible. That's why the Bill's perfect playoff game

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Speaker 1: is legendary because it is an anomaly among anomalies.

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Speaker 2: Right, And even some of the plays in that perfect

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Speaker 2: game we're broken, yeah, that they made.

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Speaker 1: As far as broken plays and the Bills are concerned,

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Speaker 1: I think that Josh Allen, who is usually the orchestrator

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Speaker 1: of broken plays, certainly comes out way ahead on the

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Speaker 1: positive side of the ledger as opposed to the negative.

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Speaker 1: So you feel better about taking the good with the

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Speaker 1: bad because you have Josh Allen. If you have someone

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Speaker 1: like Tua, it's harder because there are no broken plays

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Speaker 1: that usually work, ever, so you don't want them in

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Speaker 1: your game. You want to be as tied to the

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Speaker 1: structure of your game plan and your plays as much

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Speaker 1: as possible. When you have a unicorn like Josh, you're

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Speaker 1: a little more apt to take the bad with the

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Speaker 1: good because the good usually far outweighs the bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get yeah. Broken plays and you can

870
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: call them what you want. Broken plays aren't necessarily broken.

871
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're just well defended time and time again. When

872
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: Josh first got to the and this is this is

873
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: a conversation about Josh, right, I think for the most

874
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: part it is. So when Josh first got to the Bills,

875
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: you know, every play was broken because he couldn't see

876
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: it right, I mean, unless it was a three step drop,

877
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: quick release gone. Josh was running around back there because

878
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: it took him a while to get used to seeing

879
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: what the defense was doing and throwing to the right

880
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: spot and seeing it. So every play was broken. Now

881
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 2: it's gotten less and less, but because of the competitive

882
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: nature of the league, you still gonna are gonna have

883
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: broken plays or plays that are defended. Brownie and I

884
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: sat here and watched replay after replay of these games.

885
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: Robert Salah with the San Francisco forty nine ers before

886
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: he went to be head coach of the Jets, Vic

887
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: Fangio as head coach of the Denver Broncos, other defensive coordinators.

888
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 2: You look over there and they would have the absolutely

889
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: perfect defensive call made for the play that the Bills

890
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: were running, and Josh would turn it into a touchdown.

891
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: It's not whether you're gonna have broken plays or not

892
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: broken plays. And I get it. The second half was

893
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: the defense that the Patriots were calling in the second

894
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: half was as different as the offense the Bills were

895
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 2: running the second half. So you're gonna get a different

896
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: number of broken plays, different percentage of broken plays. It's

897
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 2: always going to be about what you do with less.

898
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: That's the game. Take what the you know this take

899
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: which defense gives you. It makes it look easy, and

900
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: sometimes it Sometimes for some of these quarterbacks, it's so

901
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: easy they don't want to take it right. They want

902
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: to try and get bigger yardage. That's what Josh does sometimes.

903
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: I mean broken plays are defended plays, So I mean

904
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: you can sit there and say you can't do that.

905
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: I can't. That's the reality of the game. That's what

906
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: it is. If if it was an even steven, if

907
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: they didn't tilt the rules in favor of the offense,

908
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: you'd have half the offensive plays for all every team

909
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 2: being broken because the defense gets gets to play too.

910
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: So the fact that the broken plays are you know,

911
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: less than majority of the plays your offense runs is

912
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: it is a function of how good your off You know,

913
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: how good your offense is is how physically superior you are,

914
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: which is very difficult to get an offense. And two,

915
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 2: how good the defense is you're playing. I mean, that's

916
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: that's it.

917
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not singular in nature. There's two sides to it.

918
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you're getting caught up in something that is

919
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: that is an absolute reality. You can't get around that.

920
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 2: Good teams play good defense, and that's gonna bust up

921
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: some of your play calling.

922
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: And they're gonna face a good defense this week, one

923
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: in fact, that leads the league in tackles for loss.

924
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get some broken plays that are gonna

925
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: be of the negative variety against the defense of this

926
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: caliber this week. It's gonna happen. So pack your patience

927
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: because not every broken play is gonna be a positive one,

928
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: not against the defense of this caliber. Even as bad

929
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: as the team is in the one loss column, it's

930
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: a very good defense when it comes to tackles for

931
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: loss because they have more than anybody else. Now, part

932
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: of it's probably because their defense is on the field

933
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: a lot. Because their offense can't sustain drives, but you

934
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: still gotta tip your hat to a defense that leads

935
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: the league and tackles for lost no matter how it

936
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: has come about. So just something to keep in mind

937
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: for Sunday's game. Gotta take a break here. When we

938
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: come back. Second hour of the show will begin with

939
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: your phone calls. Pat in Syracuse, Miron and Richmond Gary

940
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: on a cell. We'll lead off with you when we return.

941
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: Here On a Wednesday edition of One Bill's Live, presented

942
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: by Coil Out of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. These

943
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Calledlida Help. Here, we are

944
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: our number two on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker.

945
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: The players have exited the practice field. We'll get to

946
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: the post practice podium shortly where Josh Allen will be

947
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: addressing the media. But before that, we have your phone

948
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: calls at eight oh three five fifty one, eight eight

949
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty and as promised, we

950
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: lead off with Pat in Syracuse. What's up? Pat?

951
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 13: Joe? You guys are fantastic one of my favorite shows.

952
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 14: Two things.

953
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 13: So the first thing is officiating last week against the Patriots.

954
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 13: I thought it was actually quite good. And I loved

955
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 13: the Peon Dawkins airplane mode play a number forty four.

956
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 13: I've never ever seen it like that where he got

957
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 13: he smushed the guy airplane mode. And then secondly, just

958
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 13: see the vendue. Right, So I was watching the team,

959
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 13: you know, like a lot of us, there are six

960
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 13: seconds left before they kicked the field goal. The time

961
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 13: never left. You've never kicked hands of booty. Call that

962
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 13: that situation. The t Higgins concussion things, the NFL. You

963
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 13: look at these things from a venue standpoint, because really,

964
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 13: if that's the intequity of the game, So we want

965
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 13: to hear your thoughts.

966
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they the clock management or the clock running was

967
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: an atrocity in New England. There was a spot there

968
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: where nobody knew how much time was going to be

969
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: left in the officials now, the official clock is always

970
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 2: kept on the field by the line judge, so he's

971
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: always got the line judge of the umpire. Yeah, they

972
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: always keep it and it's the official and it gets

973
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 2: off by more than a second or two. They had

974
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 2: they'll say, hey, set the game clock to whatever whatever,

975
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: and that's what they do, and that they got it

976
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: so wrong that the in game clock, the stadium clock

977
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: during a couple of plays right there at the end

978
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: of the half. It started to go, hey, and this

979
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 2: is just one more thing that you look at the

980
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: Gillette Stadium crew who runs the clocks and the video

981
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: review and all of that stuff, and you're looking at

982
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: sideways going what is the problem? They completely messed it up,

983
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: couldn't get it right. They the officials had to step in.

984
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: The clock didn't run at the time after the play

985
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: was running.

986
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean, so you know, it's just referee John Hussey

987
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: did step in and made them that's right, corrected.

988
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 2: So all of that's yeah, I mean, it's the way

989
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: it is the U and you can you're right. And

990
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: it's interesting that, you know, there's been a lot of

991
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: stuff on social from New England fans saying it was

992
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: a ridiculous. How can the Bills not be called for

993
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: any holding penalties?

994
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 12: Uh?

995
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: They thought the pass interference on Shakir on the thirty

996
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: seven yard or on the last by Marcus Jones was

997
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: was not a good call.

998
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: They thought it was an interception.

999
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they thought it was an interception.

1000
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: You know, so in those simultaneous position always goes to

1001
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: the offense.

1002
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so all of that. So, yeah, you're right, it

1003
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: was Uh, there was a lot going on in that

1004
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: the league, and you're right the t Higgins enter the

1005
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: concussion stuff. Now, the league can only do so much

1006
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: if if the guy who is being evaluated from concussion,

1007
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: and they have people observers upstairs. So when Key Higgins

1008
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: got up and grabbed his head, he had already been

1009
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: evaluated for concussion before that. So for them to call

1010
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: down and say, hey, check him out again, you know, well,

1011
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: if it's on the guy too, they're there to protect

1012
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: the guy from himself. And if he's good enough and

1013
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 2: well enough and doesn't have a concussion enough that he

1014
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: can't get away with wanting to play, there's nothing they

1015
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 2: can do. But he was evaluated for a concussion in game.

1016
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: As for Dion Dawkins, the reason he did the swan

1017
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: dive on kylevon chas On on that pass pro play

1018
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: was because he didn't want to get called for holding.

1019
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: He had lost his angle and instead of turning and twisting,

1020
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: which would have drawn a holding penalty as he knew,

1021
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: he wisely let go of kay Levon Chason and then

1022
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: just kept his body between him and Josh Allen and

1023
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: then belly flopped on him when Chason lost his footing.

1024
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: If you want to a longer look at that, you

1025
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: can go on Buffalo Bills dot com and pull up

1026
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: the micd up segment because Dion was miked up for that,

1027
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: and John Hussey, the head referee, actually came up to

1028
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: him after the play and said, good job keeping your

1029
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: hands off him. You know, you know, otherwise I would.

1030
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: Have had to call hold it when that happened in

1031
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 2: real time, like most fans, who like most fans, you're thinking,

1032
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: is that's that's a whole look at him. He caught

1033
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: him down. It's a hole. He landed on top of him.

1034
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: And immediately JJ Watt, who's the analyst for CBS in

1035
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: the booth, who's a defensive lineman by trade, a defensive

1036
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: end by trade, he says, when and on a camera,

1037
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 2: who's the defender that came on Chason? Chason comes off

1038
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: and rips under, and he goes. As soon as the

1039
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: defensive end rips under like that, that gives the defensive

1040
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: the offensive tackle, They're not going to call him holding.

1041
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: When the guy goes under his arm to rip through,

1042
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: he goes, You're never going to get that call. As

1043
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 2: a defensive end as a hold and then Dion let

1044
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: go completely put both arms out and just rode him down.

1045
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: So immediately on the first replay, JJ goes, Yeah, that's

1046
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: they're never going to get a hold call on that,

1047
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: and that's coming from a defensive end. So yeah, that

1048
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: was There's a lot of that going around and then that,

1049
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: let's face it, we all do it. When your team

1050
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: gets the short end of the stick, it's an outrage,

1051
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: right and when it when it goes your way, it's like,

1052
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 2: of course it goes our way.

1053
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: Look, But just so Patriots fans, no, a Josh Allen

1054
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: scramble for a touchdown came back on a holding call,

1055
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: so that that happened in the second half of the game.

1056
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: So to say they didn't get a holding call on

1057
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: andm would be incorrect. There was a holding call that

1058
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: took a touchdown off the ball and they still scored.

1059
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: So holding penalty, you get a second chance stop him then,

1060
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: and the Patriots defense couldn't do it. So whatever. Uh,

1061
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: let's go to Miron and Richmond. What's up, Miron, je

1062
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: I'll thank.

1063
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 2: You for taking my call.

1064
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 5: Uh.

1065
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 3: Two questions if I'm a first and more academic question.

1066
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 3: If all of our wide receivers were healthy and available,

1067
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 3: who would be the top five that you guys would

1068
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: dress just for a kind of And I know, you

1069
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 3: know I'll put independent, but who are the top guys

1070
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 3: who addressed just to play a game? And then why

1071
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: would that be the case. And the second question or

1072
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 3: more or less comment or question is in regards to

1073
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 3: Kan Coleman. I mean, we've basically seen nothing from him

1074
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: all year, and I was a little confused as to

1075
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 3: why I put Kean in and sat Gabe Davis, given

1076
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 3: that Gave has such a good report with Josh. Is

1077
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: there any reason why that would be the case. And

1078
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 3: you know, why would I address Keon going growth with

1079
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 3: us the year, given that he's been so ineffective Moving forward?

1080
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: I mean in the playoffs, the teams aren't going to

1081
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 3: get better, the defense are going to get better. And

1082
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: you know, if he's not showing the regular season, I

1083
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 3: don't I don't believe that he's gonna show in the playoffs.

1084
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 3: Those are two questions, Thank you, gentlemen.

1085
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair question.

1086
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a fair question. Keon's come come under

1087
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 2: some criticism because of his lack of production. He still

1088
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 2: gets a lot of snap counts because he's a big,

1089
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: strong kid and he's willing to block. And the way

1090
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 2: the run game has been going, that's in a lot

1091
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: of plays. That's job won. So they put him out

1092
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: there for that reason. That's why when they sat him down,

1093
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 2: they brought Gabe Davis back up a couple of times

1094
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: so that he could do what Keon does.

1095
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: That's and Gabe is now on the fifty three man roster.

1096
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think your first five guys, I think

1097
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:42,479
Speaker 2: it's Shakir Palmer, Keon I guess would be has got

1098
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: to be on that, and then I would probably say, well,

1099
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 2: because of the way they've run it, Shavers and Cooks,

1100
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 2: and then the last guy on the roster would probably

1101
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 2: be Gabe, who would be a healthy and active in that.

1102
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: And now you've got Micole Hardman practicing again and that

1103
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: could be a deventh receivers. So there are gonna be

1104
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: some interesting roster decisions forthcoming. I think Shaver's plays every

1105
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: week because he's arguably one of the best blockers at

1106
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: the receiver position. And look, you say, why is Coleman

1107
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: up and Davis is down? Maybe it had less to

1108
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: do with incorporating the receivers in the passing game last week,

1109
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: because the game plan was to use the tight ends

1110
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: and the backs. I mean, thirteen of the nineteen completions

1111
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: by Josh Allen went to tight ends and backs. Now

1112
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: that's not always by design. Josh is just going where

1113
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: the progression takes him sometimes, but there are other times

1114
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: where a tight end or a back or the first progression.

1115
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 7: In the red.

1116
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: So I don't think it was an accident that thirteen

1117
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: of the nineteen completions by Josh in that game went

1118
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: to tight ends or backs. I think it was by

1119
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: design and because maybe they felt they were going to

1120
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: lean a little less on the receivers in the passing game. Well,

1121
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: we'll use keyon to block more. But look, if you

1122
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: look at the season statistics, Coleman is tied for sex

1123
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: on the team in receptions. I know that might stun

1124
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: some people, but it goes Shakir with sixty two catches.

1125
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: Then next is Dalton Kinkaid, who's tied with Keon Coleman

1126
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: for the second most receptions on the team. That would

1127
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: probably stun people, but those are the facts.

1128
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that surprises me.

1129
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: And then after that is James Cook, who's third with

1130
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: thirty one.

1131
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: I think one of the things that you have to

1132
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: know about this coaching staff, and we've seen it, when

1133
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: they get something they want to do, they double down

1134
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: on it, and their willingness, desire and commitment to running

1135
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: the football has become the way they have decided to

1136
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: take the pressure off of their quarterback their ability to

1137
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: run the football, given him play action passes, they've given

1138
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: him run option passes. You know, They've just the offense

1139
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: is built to run the ball with an MVP at

1140
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: quarterback who can turn it on and we as we've seen,

1141
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: he can turn it on when you need him to

1142
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: turn it on. So they've doubled down on the finger

1143
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: quotes the others to help their quarterback, and that means

1144
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: giving James Cook as many opportunities as much help in

1145
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: the running game as they need to with tight ends,

1146
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 2: heavy sets and wide receivers who can muck it up.

1147
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, you got a running back

1148
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: who's in the running for Offensive Player of the Year. Yeah,

1149
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: he's got fourteen hundred yards rushing.

1150
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's killing it.

1151
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: Fourteen hundred yards rush in fourteen games, so that he's

1152
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: got eight one hundred yard rushing games. That's the most

1153
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: in the league. And just to give you an idea

1154
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: on history here for the Buffalo Bills franchise, who by

1155
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: the way, have two Hall of Fame running backs in

1156
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: their history, Cook has eight one hundred yard rushing games.

1157
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: That's already good for third most and team history in

1158
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: a single season. The only two are better Thurman Thomas,

1159
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: who did it nine times in the ninety two season,

1160
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: and oj who did it in his famed seventy three

1161
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: season in eleven games. Cook's done it in eight in

1162
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: fourteen games.

1163
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: So I'm it sounds crazy, and I and and maybe

1164
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: people are just they just don't want to think like this.

1165
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: Their receiving corese centered around their run game right now

1166
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: because they're depending on Knox and Kinkaid and Cook and

1167
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: Ty Johnson and to a lesser extent, Hawes and Hawes

1168
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: and also Khalil. So those are their past that's their

1169
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: passing game, and they're I think pretty happy with it

1170
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: right now.

1171
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm going to tell you right now there's

1172
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: a chance somewhere down the line that the Bills are

1173
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: gonna have to go to Denver and play the Broncos

1174
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: in the playoffs the week under belly of that Denver

1175
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: defense because there aren't many weaknesses they have trouble in

1176
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: past games that feature tight ends and backs. So there

1177
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: you go, just something to think about. So you've got

1178
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: it down the line.

1179
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: And I know fans don't like it because they want

1180
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: they want they want t Higgins and Jamar Chase on

1181
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: the outside. They want they want Travis Kelsey, they want

1182
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey at the tight end, and they want Ladanian

1183
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 2: Tomlinson at the running back, and they just and they

1184
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: want to go four wide with a tight end, and

1185
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: let's go. I get it. But this this rush, this

1186
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 2: coaching staff has always been under McDermott really good at

1187
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: figuring it out. They're figuring out their best way to win,

1188
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: and they continue to do it.

1189
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,959
Speaker 1: Let's squeeze Gary on a cell end. Before Josh Allen

1190
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: addresses the media, what's up.

1191
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 14: Carry, Hey guys, they all do good.

1192
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: Oh.

1193
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 14: I'm watching that game Sunday, the beginning of it, the

1194
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 14: instant replays, you know, back to back and the Bills.

1195
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 14: I just understand if I'm prepped. You said that it's

1196
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 14: up to the home team for the replay out fast again.

1197
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 2: On the scoreboard on the score scoreboard out.

1198
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 14: Okay. I remember years back when the NFL said, okay,

1199
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 14: now that the NFL is just on monitor games, correct,

1200
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 14: Why is it the replay like these type of things

1201
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 14: in their hands?

1202
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: Why does well? But I believe I believe, I want

1203
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: to believe. I don't know this for a fact. I

1204
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: want to believe that what the replay assistancies is provided

1205
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: to him by the network truck through the league, who's

1206
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: also watching everything in New York as well. Uh, and

1207
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: that the hometown scoreboard operator has no control over that.

1208
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: I believe they get it directly from the network truck,

1209
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: all the angles that they need. Why they weren't as

1210
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: quick on the booty catch as they were on the

1211
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: on the cook's cat I will never know.

1212
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 14: Yeah, but I'm thinking, is it's a what nine billion

1213
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 14: dollar industry?

1214
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1215
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 14: I've been watching football. Yeah, I've been watching football for

1216
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 14: forty years now, almost going on here, and we still

1217
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 14: have these type of amateur things happen, these costume home

1218
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 14: field advantage games. Guys, How do they do this to

1219
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 14: these NFL teams every year put in a position to

1220
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 14: not get a home field advantage and then have to

1221
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 14: go on the road or whatever because you lost a

1222
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 14: game like week two weeks because a bad instant replay,

1223
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 14: a bad ball. I just can't believe a ten billion

1224
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 14: dollar industry is this much amateur hour.

1225
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean, a couple of years ago the Lions got

1226
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: jobbed down in Dallas and had to go on the

1227
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: road in the playoffs because of it. They're still sore

1228
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: about that one. That was three years ago.

1229
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: The think about this. The NFL sets these rules, and

1230
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 2: I you know, they they're set up to run a

1231
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: sports league. They're not set up for law enforcement or

1232
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 2: in this case, rule enforcement.

1233
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: And as you say all the time, steve to their credit,

1234
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: they try to get it right, and they make efforts

1235
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: and redouble their efforts.

1236
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 2: If you've got in the scenario we're talking, if you've

1237
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 2: got an organization, I'm not, and I don't even want

1238
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 2: to get into who does and who does. They may

1239
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: all do it, I don't know. But when you get

1240
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: into a situation where you get a committed company who

1241
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: is has got a budget in a vast stadium with

1242
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 2: wires running everywhere that you can't throw in that with

1243
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 2: that kind of budget, you just get the right out.

1244
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: You go in there and you throw some bugs into

1245
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: the system that you can control. I mean, that's who's

1246
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 2: gonna find out. Who's gonna know? Nobody Unless you get

1247
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: up there and you know, follow the wires and look

1248
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: at all the switches, you don't know. You the league

1249
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 2: has to take their word for it that it's on

1250
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 2: the up and up. The only evidence you'll ever see

1251
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 2: for it is seems painfully obvious when you get into

1252
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 2: a situation like they got into last year. Not only was.

1253
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 15: That that play, that play that taboote down the sidelines delayed,

1254
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 15: it's seemingly delayed, but only a series later, like like

1255
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 15: six plays later, the exact opposite things happened, and it's instantaneous.

1256
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 2: That begs a question, right, I mean that we're all

1257
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 2: looking at that. The problem is if somebody with a budget,

1258
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: like an NFL team, wants to do something like that

1259
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: and get away with it, they can do it. It's

1260
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: just that simple. It's just that simple. And unless you

1261
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 2: get somebody in there to run a diagnostics test on

1262
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: every electronic device in the whole building, every single game,

1263
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 2: you'll never find it. Never. Yeah, I mean that's just

1264
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 2: the way it is. Now. You know, it comes and

1265
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 2: listen all the stuff you usually that stadiums like this

1266
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 2: and teams like it comes down with a mandate from

1267
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 2: the people who are on top, you know, say if

1268
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 2: we can, if we can get an edge, get it basically,

1269
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 2: and then it's you interpret that the way you want.

1270
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, another conversation for another day.

1271
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I'm not listen that. Yeah, the New

1272
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:30,959
Speaker 2: England Patriots are not the only team out there doing

1273
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: whatever they can. But we'll see, I mean, you just

1274
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 2: you don't. You just see it so much. And they've

1275
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 2: been caught as well.

1276
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: Uh, we have to go to the post practice podium

1277
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: where Josh Allen is addressing the media. So let's head

1278
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: there now. So we got Josh coming.

1279
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 16: Up here and he does it ever become old?

1280
01:06:59,520 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: No?

1281
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 16: I mean I think that's obviously to accomplish everyone's main

1282
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 16: goal got to make the playoffs and giving yourself a

1283
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 16: chance to win the lottery. That that's your ticket right there,

1284
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 16: is getting into the playoffs. So I honestly don't know

1285
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:20,479
Speaker 16: what the chances of us clinching or what. I haven't

1286
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 16: looked at me that up. All we're folks on is

1287
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 16: trying to put a good week together and and a

1288
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 16: good game plan to play against a really good, really

1289
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 16: good team.

1290
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 11: People win, and in the world refusion.

1291
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 7: Needs to leave.

1292
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, I think the main part there is

1293
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 16: us win. So a getting no easy task every week

1294
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 16: in this league. I mean, everybody getting paid to do

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Speaker 16: the same thing out there. And you know, this is

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Speaker 16: a really really good defense that we're about to face,

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Speaker 16: and it's gonna be all hands on deck.

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Speaker 2: Oh what you just said.

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Speaker 6: You're not paying attention to too much outside of it.

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Speaker 6: But Miles Garrett does have a chance at setting the

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Speaker 6: all time run For you to be a quarterback that

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Speaker 6: that record would need to be set against, have you

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Speaker 6: thought about.

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Speaker 11: It at all?

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Speaker 16: No, I haven't thought about it. I do like highlight tapes,

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Speaker 16: but I don't like being a part of other people's

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Speaker 16: highlight tapes. I mean, he's an absolutely tremendous football player.

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Speaker 16: He's one of the greatest of all times. And yeah,

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Speaker 16: I mean he's he's a force to be reckoned with,

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Speaker 16: and we got to be ready for everything that they

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Speaker 16: can throw at us. But you have to be aware

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Speaker 16: of we're ninety fives at at all times.

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Speaker 1: About his style of play, just what he's able to deal.

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Speaker 16: I mean, the biggest guy out there, is the fastest

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Speaker 16: guy out there. His ability to get off box, his

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Speaker 16: motor is higher than really anybody else that you'll ever play.

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Speaker 16: He can beat you with speed and power. I mean,

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Speaker 16: he's just the all around football player in the field

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Speaker 16: group to.

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Speaker 2: Start his defense and Miles, is there anything watching him

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Speaker 2: a little bit extra closely?

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Speaker 10: Get supplied you.

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Speaker 16: I wouldn't say him specifically. We all know how great

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Speaker 16: he is. But he's not the only guy that they got,

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Speaker 16: you know, they they've they've got a really really great units,

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Speaker 16: got a really good secondary, you know, to the top

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Speaker 16: corners in the league. They got one of the best,

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Speaker 16: you know, rookies playing their their linebacker position. So yeah,

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Speaker 16: you gotta be, like I said, all hands on deck,

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Speaker 16: and it's gonna take every single guy to go out

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Speaker 16: there and accomplish what we need to accomplish.

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Speaker 11: And you put him well perspective, you know, he's what

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Speaker 11: these hit years have met year about Low. You've grown

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Speaker 11: up in how huot before and after and during the game,

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Speaker 11: Twitter and ninety nine touchdowns and now being expected to

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Speaker 11: put that Nash.

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Speaker 16: I mean, yeah, I guess it's like the the evolution

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Speaker 16: of life. And you know, I consider this place my home.

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Speaker 16: It's where I've done a lot of growing up and

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Speaker 16: you know, it's a place that I'll I'll raise a

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Speaker 16: family here. You know, it's it's it's really cool.

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Speaker 11: Factually, would you think, I mean there's don't believe that

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Speaker 11: or visioned that.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean envisioning at twenty ten, I was just

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Speaker 16: trying to, you know, figure out protections and how to

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Speaker 16: how to throw the ball correctly, you know, And that's

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Speaker 16: it's it's we've come a long way. Obviously, it's been

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Speaker 16: a small army helping me. And there's so many different

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Speaker 16: people in my life that are are I'm thankful for

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Speaker 16: and and owe a lot of credit to. But yeah,

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Speaker 16: I mean we're we're still continuing trying to work on

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Speaker 16: becoming the best quarterback that I can be. And I

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01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 16: feel like each week I still find new ways that

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Speaker 16: I can I can be better, and it's obviously up

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Speaker 16: to me to go out there and make adjustments and

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Speaker 16: and continue to progress.

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Speaker 4: When you talk about girls that period of time, what

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Speaker 4: has Dean Dawkins spent to you over all these years?

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Speaker 16: Oh, I mean he's been it's been my uh my rock.

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Speaker 16: I guess, right, left tackle one of the guys that

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Speaker 16: I can rely on on, you know, every every single day.

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Speaker 16: The energy that he always brings, the personality, it's always

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Speaker 16: been the same person. And he goes out there and

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Speaker 16: he's he's one of the best, if not the best

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Speaker 16: left tackle in football. And you know, we got a

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Speaker 16: big task ahead of us this week on that left side.

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Speaker 16: But no one that I would, you know, rely on

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Speaker 16: more than than him. And you know, I feel like

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Speaker 16: he's a guy that I fully trust.

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Speaker 11: Josh, what did you see him with the mat the

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Speaker 11: last numbers?

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Speaker 1: So brack his teams to kind of build up get

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Speaker 1: back where he's going.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean he continues just to work hard. Obviously

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Speaker 16: his road over the last few years, it's it's been

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Speaker 16: a long one. It's been some ups and downs. You know,

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Speaker 16: we're just happy he's out there playing Matt blond style

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01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 16: football and helping our defense and helping us win games.

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Speaker 4: Josh all right.

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Speaker 1: So that's Josh Allen addressing the media in advance of

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Speaker 1: Bill's Browns on Sunday. Gotta take a break here when

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Speaker 1: we come back. Got a documentary from NFL Films. We

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Speaker 1: want to alert you to concerning the Elijah Pitts family

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Speaker 1: and the football family that spans three generations. We'll catch

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Speaker 1: up with Ron Pitts and his son Shay next here

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Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, presented by co Lot of Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 17: If you have a man who's born in a very

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Speaker 17: deep segregated part of the South, if you look at

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Speaker 17: the trajectory of what you thought that life would be

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Speaker 17: and then you end up two time super Bowl champion

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01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 17: coaching four super Bowls, his path.

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Speaker 10: Is a lot different than mine.

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Speaker 18: I mean, he came in Arkansas the thirties.

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Speaker 8: It's not like Calavas is at twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot different.

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Speaker 17: So things he had to go through in the adversity

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Speaker 17: to put himself in a position to be successful.

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Speaker 18: Put my dad in a position to be successful.

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Speaker 17: Who put me in a position to be successful? I

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Speaker 17: can't complain about anything. I mean, I've had to go

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Speaker 17: through nothing like that. And it's because the men before

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Speaker 17: me had to They walk so I can run.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: here with you on a Wednesday, and please to shine

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Speaker 1: a light on a broadcast premiere which is going to

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Speaker 1: be presented by NFL Films called the Elijah Pitts Family,

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Speaker 1: and here to tell us more about it are two

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Speaker 1: members of the Elijah Pitts family, Elijah's son, Ron Pitts

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Speaker 1: and his grandson Shay, who's now coaching at UCLA. Guys,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming in and helping us out in kind

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Speaker 1: of shining a light on what had to be a

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Speaker 1: really cool project for you two to be a part of.

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Speaker 1: And there are Bills Ties here for those that don't know.

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Speaker 1: Ron a former Buffalo Bill's draft choice and a former

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Speaker 1: teammate of the guy who I left, Steve Tasker, And

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Speaker 1: obviously his dad was an assistant coach under Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame coach Marv Levy. So, Ron, why don't you just

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Speaker 1: start us off and give us an idea on how

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Speaker 1: this kind of came to be. What was the genesis

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Speaker 1: of this project?

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Speaker 19: Well, I mean there was such a football connection in

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Speaker 19: the family, right, you know, starting with dad as a

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Speaker 19: player and then a long time coaching in the NFL

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Speaker 19: and in his years there in Buffalo, and then with

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Speaker 19: my boys playing and myself playing, and I think they

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Speaker 19: just wanted to tie everything together and there was a

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Speaker 19: lot of synergy there, a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 19: good stories and a lot a lot of connections. So

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Speaker 19: I think that was what it was about. And I

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Speaker 19: think it culminated with Dad being admitted into the Hall

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Speaker 19: of Fame this past year, so that that was he was,

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Speaker 19: you know, submitted and admitted in as a contributor, you know,

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Speaker 19: So that was that was big and that just kind

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Speaker 19: of put a nice bow on this, on this whole story.

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Speaker 2: And one thing that gets lost in all of this

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Speaker 2: is Shay, you're living proof of it. I mean, how

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Speaker 2: generational has been with your family. I mean Eli and

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Speaker 2: I I know your dad, Eli, your grandpa, Shay scored

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Speaker 2: the first rushing touchdown on the Super Bowl history. He

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Speaker 2: was the first guy to run across the goal line.

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Speaker 2: There was some touchd there was a passing touchdown maybe

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Speaker 2: before that, but he was on that Super Bowl team

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Speaker 2: with Lombardi. Then he had then Ron comes along. He's

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Speaker 2: a draft pick, plays for the Buffalo Bills. You guys

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Speaker 2: are you and your and your brother Lee are also

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Speaker 2: involved in in in in the NFL as well, and

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Speaker 2: you're in UCLA coaching. This generational family is really it's

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Speaker 2: got to be really special to be a part of.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, No, doubt I think that thing, but I stopped.

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Speaker 18: I stopped playing football a couple of years ago. Was like,

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01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 18: tried and did that whole NFL training thing, didn't quite

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01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 18: go through, and then it was like, all right, what's

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01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 18: to do next, and thought about working corporate, but I'm like,

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Speaker 18: you know what a lot of opportunities that but thankfully

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01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 18: got degrees in school that allowed opportunities to happen. But

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Speaker 18: I definitely knew like to be in order to be fulfilling,

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01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 18: and what I want to do had to be involving football,

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01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 18: not just because of the family, but it's because it

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01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 18: was something that I want to do and something that

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Speaker 18: would feel good. So that paired up with the only

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Speaker 18: I knew football is going to have something to do

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Speaker 18: with what I want to do in life and something

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Speaker 18: to do with how I want my future to go.

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Speaker 18: And just looking at how the family lined up, I'm like,

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Speaker 18: it's just naturally lined up that way it happened.

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Speaker 10: So that has been pretty.

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Speaker 18: Cool and hopefully just I think the coolest part. Obviously

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Speaker 18: Dad played, Grandpa played is really cool. But the things

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Speaker 18: I like to look into is like, what was my

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Speaker 18: grandpa like as a coach, because that relates directly to

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Speaker 18: what I'm doing now or his philosophy, how did he.

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Speaker 10: Manage his room?

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Speaker 18: And I think just looking at guys like Thurman Thomas

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Speaker 18: on Twitter who tweets about my grandpa about once a

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Speaker 18: year and says something about him, that's kind of impact

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Speaker 18: that I want to have on people, and look into

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Speaker 18: stuff like that.

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Speaker 10: So that's been cool.

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Speaker 18: And just one day I hopefully talked to Thurman and

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Speaker 18: so what was he like as a coach? What kind

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01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 18: of things did he do that made him a good coach?

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Speaker 18: So I can try to mirror those things in what

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Speaker 18: I'm doing now. So I think to being able to

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Speaker 18: take that pass and put that into my future, then

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Speaker 18: pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Well let me tell you this, Shay Thurman and Kenny Davis,

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Speaker 2: those running backs in that room worship the ground Eli

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Speaker 2: walked on. They loved him, and so did the rest

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Speaker 2: of us on that team loved him to death. He

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Speaker 2: was a swim heard of, a great coach, and a

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Speaker 2: very no nonsense cut to the chase, exactly what football

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01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,839
Speaker 2: players wanted to hear he was. He was a beloved

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Speaker 2: member of Marv Levy's staff, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you guys obviously were interviewed for this project,

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Speaker 1: but you really haven't seen a whole lot of what

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Speaker 1: NFL Films has ultimately come up with with respect to

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Speaker 1: the final cut, Ron, what are you looking most forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing? Because you know, I mean, NFL films archives

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Speaker 1: are legendary. I mean you might see some footage of

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Speaker 1: your dad as a player that you've never seen before.

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Speaker 19: You know, that's a great point, Chris, because I NFL Films, boy,

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01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 19: they are so good. They'll make you cry that they'll

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Speaker 19: pull out and the way they put things together. I

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Speaker 19: mean their award winning everyone knows that. And I was

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Speaker 19: just telling my mom a couple of weeks ago, I said,

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Speaker 19: you know, I'm seeing more stuff on day Ad in

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Speaker 19: his career and his legacy now then we saw back

1509
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 19: I don't know, ten twenty years ago. And maybe it's

1510
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 19: it's it's technology. Okay, maybe maybe that's what it is.

1511
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 19: I don't know, maybe it's social media. But it seems

1512
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 19: like his legacy is bigger now than it ever was.

1513
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 19: And yeah, films, boy, they came out and they came

1514
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 19: to the house, Shay right. They shot at the house,

1515
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 19: they went over to the UCLA shot, we did some

1516
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 19: things here just in the neighborhood. You know, they go

1517
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 19: full speed on it. So it's gonna be good and

1518
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 19: you're gonna My guess is, I haven't seen it. I

1519
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 19: have not seen a preview or anything like that, a

1520
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 19: special cut. But my guess is you're gonna see some

1521
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 19: things and learn a lot about Elijah Pittson and his

1522
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 19: legacy in the family's legacy that you didn't know before.

1523
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it comes on tonight FS one, and then

1524
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 2: it'll also be on NFL Films, YouTube and fell Facebook

1525
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 2: did this project and you guys are a testament to it.

1526
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 2: Something we talked about a little earlier, is it the

1527
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 2: NFL seems like this huge, massive industry that it that

1528
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 2: you know, spans the globe now right they have games

1529
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 2: in international, but it really is. I mean, there's a

1530
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 2: network there that it really feels small when you start

1531
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 2: talking about a legacy like your fathers and all the

1532
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 2: lives he touched, the guys he coached, the teams he

1533
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 2: was a part of. And now you ron as a

1534
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 2: you remember the bills you're uh, you know and Lee

1535
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 2: your time or Shay your time. Uh, just how small

1536
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 2: the NFL and football really is because you know, they

1537
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 2: only really played in one country, and you're looking and

1538
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 2: you're living in it, right, I mean it's a your

1539
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 2: dad must have touched a wide swath of lives throughout

1540
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 2: the world we call the NFL.

1541
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, he did. And it's funny. I think we

1542
01:19:55,360 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 19: were over in Europe vacationing and the there was a family,

1543
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 19: you know, just random families somewhere that we passed by,

1544
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 19: and they had on a Green Bay Packer shirt and

1545
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 19: jersey and all that kind of stuff, And somehow we

1546
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 19: struck up a conversation with him and mentioned dad's name,

1547
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 19: and their eyes just lit up. And what was weird

1548
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 19: about this is these people couldn't have been more than

1549
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 19: twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven years old. So wait

1550
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 19: a minute. You guys weren't even born when Elijah Pitts

1551
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 19: ran across that goal line, right, You guys weren't even

1552
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 19: born to know the Bart Star, the Lombardi legacy. So

1553
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 19: I think that kind of speaks to what we're talking

1554
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 19: about here. There's more information out now and social media

1555
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 19: people are embracing that history, that culture now more than any.

1556
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: Shay, I know, you were a fellowship coach with the Packers,

1557
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: What was it like to go where you know your

1558
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: grandpa played. I mean that, as we know, that's hallowed

1559
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: ground in the National Football League. You got to be

1560
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 1: a fellowship coach there, you know, before you moved on

1561
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 1: to other places and now at U see LA coaching.

1562
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: What was that like to kind of coach in the

1563
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: place where you know, you know your grandpa was running

1564
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: touchdowns into the end zone.

1565
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, that was that was really cool.

1566
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 18: I think the coolest part about it is how Ki

1567
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 18: Packers fans are very like old school and memorable things.

1568
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 18: So there was a three two other fellowship members with

1569
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 18: me was Nick Collins, who played on the Super Bowl

1570
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 18: back in twenty ten, and then Morgan Burnett, who was

1571
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 18: on that Super Bowl team too, And they're getting into

1572
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 18: coaching as well, and we're walking into the into the

1573
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 18: practice field and you just see them two just getting

1574
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 18: swarmed by Packers fans and then I'm like, okay, like

1575
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 18: I didn't play for the Packers. And then there's a

1576
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 18: whole group of so i'd say people over sixty years

1577
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 18: old that are swarming me asking me for autographs just

1578
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 18: because I'm Elijah's grandside. So when I saw that, I'm

1579
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 18: like dang. The generations and the impact that that has

1580
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 18: is crazy that this Packers fans, however many years, sixty whatever,

1581
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 18: I think, sixty years later that are still asking for

1582
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 18: my autograph just because of my relation to Elijah. It's like, Okay,

1583
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 18: those dudes wanted Super Bowl that was with me ten

1584
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 18: years ago, fifteen years ago, they're relevant. But then now

1585
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 18: even the first Super Bowl sixty whatever, how many years

1586
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 18: ago it was.

1587
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 1: Why people are.

1588
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 10: Still asking for that impact.

1589
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 18: So I think just to be able to walk that

1590
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 18: same walk that my dad and grandpa walked to practice

1591
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 18: and do that, I only did it for a short

1592
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 18: period of time as a coach, but just to see

1593
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 18: people asking me for pictures and autographs because of the

1594
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 18: impact that people in my family had years before, I

1595
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 18: think that.

1596
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 10: Was pretty cool. It just shows you how, yeah, that

1597
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 10: legacy runs in terms of that.

1598
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 18: I thought that was I was very surprising, Like I

1599
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 18: was not expecting people to ask for anything when I

1600
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 18: walked through.

1601
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 10: I thought that was cool.

1602
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: And Ron, you spent a brief time with the Packers too,

1603
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: You're playing there for a little bit. I mean, was

1604
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 1: that just kind of a surreal moment for you, Like

1605
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: you're being in the same pleats in the same locker

1606
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: room as your dad. Was like, that had to be surreal.

1607
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 19: Yeah. Yeah, And I even remember my time as a

1608
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 19: real small boy growing up partly there in Green Bay.

1609
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 19: I remember walking through the locker room, you know, going

1610
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:29,600
Speaker 19: to see my father. I remember bumping into Vince Lombardi

1611
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:33,480
Speaker 19: and having some of the greats like Star and Kramer

1612
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 19: and Willie Wood and Dave Robinson and Leroy Cappy and

1613
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 19: all those guys tease me. You know, I'd come into

1614
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 19: the locker room. But it the memories were crazy, and

1615
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 19: I think one in particular, my first game suiting up there.

1616
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 19: You know, I felt like, okay, okay, I've been through

1617
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 19: the interviews for the week, and you know everyone's talking

1618
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 19: about coming back here to Green Bay blah blah blah,

1619
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 19: and I said, yeah, that's just another game, I guess.

1620
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 19: And when I walk down that tunnel, then it all changed.

1621
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 19: It was a very surreal feeling because to know this

1622
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 19: is the same tunnel. Yeah, Dad walked down, and some

1623
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 19: of the greats in the game that we talk about

1624
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 19: walk down. So yeah, there's definitely a special time.

1625
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 2: Well, it's one of the guys your dad touched in

1626
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: his career as a coach. I can't tell you how

1627
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: excited I am to see this tonight. Congratulations on this project, guys,

1628
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. What a gift it must be

1629
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 2: for your family and I hope you get a chance

1630
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 2: to cherish it.

1631
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 19: Yeah, appreciate it.

1632
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 10: I appreciate you guys having us on.

1633
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's called The NFL Films Presents the Elijah

1634
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: Pitts Family. It's premiering tonight on FS one ten pm

1635
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 1: Pacific one am Eastern Time, and then it will re

1636
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: air on the YouTube channel for NFL Films and on

1637
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: NFL Film's Facebook page Thursday, December eighteenth at noon, So

1638
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 1: be sure to check it out. Our thanks to Ron

1639
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: and Shay Pitts. We'll take a break, be back with

1640
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: more here on One Bill's Live, presented by a lot

1641
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 1: of help. It's Buffalo Bill's Brady. All right back here

1642
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. And the Wednesday injury report has

1643
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 1: been released, and to no surprise, we knew that Jordan

1644
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 1: Phillips and Matt Prater were not going to practice, but

1645
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 1: Dalton kin Kaid listed as a non participant with his

1646
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: knee injury and Dion Dawkins listed as well as a

1647
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: non participant due to illness. So Dawkins in all likelihood

1648
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: is fine for tomorrow. We'll have to keep an eye

1649
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 1: on Kincaid here going forward. I should note that today's

1650
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,799
Speaker 1: practice was just a walk through, so this participation level

1651
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: is just an estimation of what their participation would be

1652
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:53,839
Speaker 1: had it been a full scale, regular practice. And hopefully

1653
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: Kinkay just needs an extra day of rest coming off

1654
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: the game and is fine tomorrow, but we'll have to

1655
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: wait until Thursday.

1656
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, went from only two guys not practicing to four

1657
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 2: guys not practicing, but neither of the two that you

1658
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 2: know that we were at it on don't seem to

1659
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 2: be serious and weren't really concern going into the day.

1660
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: So and Hardman, in his first day of his twenty

1661
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: one day practice window being opened while still on injured reserve,

1662
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: was estimated to be what would be a limited participant,

1663
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: which kind of makes sense. You've been you haven't been

1664
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,759
Speaker 1: practicing for a month. They're gonna, you know, the athletic

1665
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: training staff and the strength and conditioning staff are gonna

1666
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: kind of ease you back in because the last thing

1667
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: they need to do. And granted again, this was just

1668
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 1: a walk through today, but presumably it'll be a little

1669
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: more intense tomorrow. You don't want them going full speed

1670
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 1: after that kind of a layoff and having them pop

1671
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 1: something else.

1672
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 2: So right, that's just mo.

1673
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 1: There, but on the whole things looking better. And then

1674
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: Christian Benford and Terrell Bernard, who both missed last week's game,

1675
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: back on the practice field in a limited capacity. Bernard's

1676
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: still trying to work his way back from that elbow

1677
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: injury suffered a month ago against Houston. Benford trying to

1678
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 1: come back from a toe injury that popped up in

1679
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: practiced last Thursday. So Benford's ailment a lot more recent

1680
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: than Bernard, who's been working his tail off to get

1681
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: back from this elbow injury that unfortunately was friendly fire.

1682
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: Got his helmet caught between Matt Milano's helmet and the

1683
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 1: guy he was trying to tackle, and that happens more

1684
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 1: than people realize. Friendly fire is a real thing. More

1685
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:33,839
Speaker 1: rally into the football.

1686
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 2: More often than not, it's defensive players hitting each other

1687
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 2: trying to get in there, and just before you get there,

1688
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 2: the whole mat, the body's turn or twist or move,

1689
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 2: and you hit the wrong things just where it.

1690
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 1: Is So that's the nuts and bolts of the injury report,

1691
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: the first one of the week. We'll see what tomorrow's

1692
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: injury report brings, hopefully better news concerning Kincaid and Dawkins,

1693
01:27:55,160 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: who were two surprise editions here this afternoon. And as

1694
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: for Thursday's edition of One Bill's Live, Steve and I,

1695
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:08,879
Speaker 1: Same bad time, same bad channel, and we'll have various

1696
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: things to bring to you, including news of what's going

1697
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: on on the practice field on Thursday, as the Bills

1698
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,719
Speaker 1: get ready for the Browns, coming off an emotional victory

1699
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 1: in the division against the Patriots and kind of evening

1700
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 1: the season series. Got to stay up and keep stacking wins.

1701
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's hard for players to get up for a

1702
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: three and eleven football team, but with the tight race

1703
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: they're in in the wild card, you would hope that

1704
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: that takes care of any and all motivation they might

1705
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: need to be ready for this one.

1706
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that we'll see. You know, this is where you

1707
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 2: got your head down, You got your nose on the grindstone.

1708
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 2: Just keep going, Just keep plugging away every week, do

1709
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 2: the exact same thing. Try and get better every week

1710
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 2: at what you're doing, and just you know, put a

1711
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 2: good effort out there. That's you know, you think a

1712
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: lot too. This week, probably about getting off to a

1713
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: faster start and looking for ways to play expedite that

1714
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 2: we've been talking about it and fans been talking about

1715
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 2: a lot. You know, those conversations go on in the

1716
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 2: locker room and of the coach's offices. So we'll see

1717
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 2: if they can come up with something.

1718
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I wouldn't mind a game that's a little

1719
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: easier on the nerves. And I know you wouldn't mind

1720
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: that either. After Mattie won't mind yourself or lack thereof

1721
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: in the first half life.

1722
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 2: Mattie won't mind. She won't have to tell me. Just

1723
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 2: be quiet, Steve, will you just calm down, calm down,

1724
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 2: just calm down.

1725
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:28,600
Speaker 1: Worry about what you can control. Show Tomorrow we'll have

1726
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas here in studio with us,

1727
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: and we will also have our good friend Andrew Canalon

1728
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: from the NFL on CBS. He'll be broadcasting his two

1729
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: hundredth career game this weekend. We'll talk to him about

1730
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 1: it tomorrow. We'll see it on