1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Ron and Aian when him in the shop, I think 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: that's the time you have to throw the book away. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes there's places where you have to follow procedure. You know, 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: you've got to go through steps one through ten on 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: the diagnosis, and you can't skip the forward and then 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: seven and then nine and expect them complete it correctly 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: or accurately or fairly or on time. The Car Doctor. 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: When the car uses oil, if it's not burning oil 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: or leaking oil, where's it going, Well, it's actually burning it. 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: If it's not leaking it, it's burning it. You just 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: won't see it because when the oil leaves the engine, 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: what does it have to pass through a catalytic converter. 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Aian, The 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: Car Doctor since nineteen ninety one. This is where car 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: owners the world overturn to for their definitive opinion on 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: up the phone and call in the garage to orders 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 1: are open. But I am here to take your calls 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six nine hundred and now 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: a little subsidy running. Oh that irrascible le Ron Tom Ray, 21 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: I tell you. He's um, you know, he's just always 22 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: up in at him. Let's let's do quick bits of uh. Okay, Tom, 23 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: did you did you wish? Excuse us a minut of folks, 24 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: Tom and I have to do some business here. Tom, 25 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: did you wish Frank from WTBQ and w g HT 26 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: happy birthday? You know I forgot to give him a 27 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: call and that his advanced age. That's not good to 28 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: do because you might not be only going to do it. 29 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: Don't let Taylor hear you say that. So let's h 30 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: she'll agree with me. Yeah, probably so, and she's right. 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: So we want to just take a moment, Tom and 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: I wish Frank true At the owner of WTBQ and 33 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: w GHT here in the New York tri state region, 34 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: happy birthday and many more. Buddy. We appreciate your support 35 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: the years, and it's always a pleasure to get together, 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: and we got to do it more often, and we 37 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: enjoy being part of both of your respective radio families 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: there and uh, and we thank you for continuing to 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: support the show and helping us to talk to our listeners. 40 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: So happy birthday, Frank, many more, pal Um, let's do 41 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: a quick shout out to Tom. You know, we have 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: a new affiliate k e u N down in Unice, 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: Louisiana and fourteen ninety am on the Diet. We want 44 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: to welcome them and four of our listeners down there 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: in Unice, Louisiana. I hope I'm saying that right. We 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: want to say thank you, and we're glad to be 47 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: part of your radio family as well. And if you've 48 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: got any questions, give us a quality five five five 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero and we'll answer him 50 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: here on the Car Doctor, because that's what we do, 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: that's what we do best. It's well, it's kind of 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: it kind of works like that. So but anyway, Yeah, 53 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: if you have any things about Ran, one of those 54 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: things about Ron just you know, anyway, well, not to 55 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: tell anything. Hey, Tom, kill your mike. So, um, Tom's 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: forgetting to kill his mike, folks. You know that's uh, 57 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: that's Tom Ray. He gets confused by buttons. I want 58 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: to tell you about two alternators, A tale of two alternators. 59 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: That's that's really what this is about. You know, we 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: started this weekend talking about different things in the shop. 61 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: I would say a story about two alternators had happened 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: to us. This week at the shop the alternator number one. 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: Mike's a regular customer. Mike dropped off his son's Honda 64 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: last week with no appointment, and you know, we're running 65 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: about a six day backlock, which is a little lighter 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: than normal for us, and this time of year and all, 67 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: it's sort of normal, but usually we're two weeks three 68 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: weeks out. And the battery light had come on when 69 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: Mike was you know, Mike was driving around in his 70 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: son's Honda and he came home while he was driving, 71 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: and Mike decided it needed an alternator, so he stopped 72 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: and he purchased one of the parts house, went home, 73 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: lifted the hood and said, nah, that's two art to 74 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: replace without a lift. So he dropped it off. And 75 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: actually it was good that he did, because not only 76 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: did it need an alternator, but it needed an alternator 77 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: and it needed a belt tensioner and a belt and 78 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of other things. So, you know, he had 79 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: some issues. So he called me and he said listen, 80 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: he said, I dropped it down your way. He said, 81 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: I'll be down to pick up the alternator that I 82 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: left in the car. I want you to put your 83 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: brand and choice of alternator in which you know makes 84 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: sense right, It's because it's not just about here, give 85 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: me your part. I'll put your part in. That's a 86 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of complications to that, and 87 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: I'll comment on that further in a minute. Alternator number 88 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: two is Kevin, a non customer by definition, a consumer 89 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: is what I call him. Up to that point. He 90 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: called and left the message on the answering machine, real message. Hi, 91 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: this is Kevin. I've got an O one Cadillac. I 92 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: need an alternator. I've got the part. I went home 93 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: to do it, but it was too difficult. I know 94 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: it's about a three and a half hour job. Call 95 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: me and let me know what you would charge to 96 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: replace it. And I said, wow, this guy's interviewing me 97 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,119 Speaker 1: like I'm on job search, like I like, I'm looking 98 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: for the work, like it's such a thrill. You know, 99 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: repair shops are like going to a diner. They are 100 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: it's like going to a restaurant. There's only two things 101 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: we have to sell. One is parts and one is labor. 102 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: You know, we all do it right. And that's whether 103 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 1: you're a dealership at tire store or an independent shop. 104 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: That's like any other business diners do it the same way. 105 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: I want you to take your two eggs and go 106 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: to the diner and say, here, scrambled these, and then 107 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: when you get food poisoning, whose fault is it? Right? 108 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: Who are you going to blame? And that's you know, 109 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: that's one of just one of the reasons why you 110 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: don't bring parts to a repair shop. I put in 111 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: your alternator and it goes bad, or it doesn't work, 112 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: or you don't let me diagnose the problem. You're setting 113 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: us both up for failure. So the lesson here isn't 114 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: me just rambling on about you know, hey, I've got 115 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: to install my parts because I choose to. The lesson 116 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: here is are you setting yourself up for failure? Are 117 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: you still sitting there and you're older than twenty five 118 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: or thirty years old, going I can't find a good 119 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: mechanic because they're all too expensive. It's not that they're 120 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: too expensive, it may be that you're not looking at 121 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: it realistically. You've got to let the mechanic us his parts. 122 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: He is trying to if he or she is doing 123 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: the job correctly. They are trying to set themselves up 124 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: for success because they want you to come back after 125 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: having a positive experience. That's what business is. I don't 126 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: know anybody that goes out and says, I'm going to 127 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: cook the worst eggs in the world today and open 128 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: my diner and hope somebody comes back tomorrow. It doesn't 129 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: work like that, you know, I declined the guy with 130 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: the Cadillac, I just I just sent him a text 131 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: and I said, right now, the workloads too much. We're 132 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: not taking on new clients at this time. I didn't 133 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: want to get into it. And it ended up that 134 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: one of the repair shops around the corner from us 135 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: called me up. He said, Hey, did the guy with 136 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: the Cadillac call you? Yeah, what'd you tell him? I said, 137 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: We're too busy to do it. What'd you tell him? Well, 138 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. Whatever I told him. He didn't like 139 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: it because he was looking to get the job done 140 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: for two hundred bucks. I said, right, and he wanted 141 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,119 Speaker 1: to use his part. He said, yeah, it doesn't work 142 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: like that, you know. It's it's you've got to let 143 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: a repair shop, if they're doing their job correctly, strive 144 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: to be successful. You don't want to dictate term, but 145 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: you want to come to an even term. You want 146 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: to understand each other. It's got to be attractive for 147 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: the repair shop and it's got to be attractive for you. 148 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: You know, I've got my own part, and how much 149 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: to put it in is just about as attractive as 150 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: a fact guy at the beach and a speedo. It. 151 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: It just doesn't work and there's no need for it. 152 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: So just a side I don't want to see and 153 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't like to see. So that being said, let's 154 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: kick off this hour of the Car Doctor. We want 155 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: to let you know down around the bottom of the hour, 156 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: Tom Greco is going to be joining us. He is 157 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: the editor in chief of New Jersey Automotive Magazine. Is 158 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: also here this week to talk to us about the 159 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: Northeast Trade Show. If you're in the Northeast up around 160 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: the New York City area next weekend, the Northeast Trade Show. 161 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: I think it's their fortieth something year, forty fourth year, 162 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: forty fifth year. I forget how long this has been 163 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: going on, but they are the premier autobody mechanical event 164 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: here in the Northeast region, and Tom's going to stop 165 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: by to talk to us about it. In some of 166 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: the continuing educational processes that they offer to the public 167 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: and to the independent repair shops and the body shops 168 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: and such. So Tom will be here to do that. 169 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: But right now, let's kick open the garage doors and 170 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: let's go talk to Jerry and Delaware about this Toyota 171 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: RAV four. Jerry, Welcome to the car doctor. How can 172 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: I help? Thank you? Nice talking to you. I have 173 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: a twenty eleven four, and when I was started, they 174 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: would have hang up after the engine started, something would 175 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: hang up in the start or celenoid. So we talked 176 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: to a few people and we kind of figured it 177 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: was the starter sellnonoid units. I had it replaced and 178 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: they put a remanufacturer part in there. Then it was 179 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: fine for about six cold starts. It only basically makes 180 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: the hangs up there for when it starts cold. So 181 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: it started making the hanging up again, sometimes louder than normal. 182 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's a defective remanufactured starter 183 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: solenoid or if it's a relay switch or hopefully not 184 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: a flywheel. And is there a part in the start 185 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: or celenoid units called a bendix that could be hanging 186 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: up in there. I'm my wits end trying to figure 187 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: this out and even the mechanics that couldn't really tell. 188 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: He said, you'll have to leave it here overnight and 189 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: we'll do a cold start. But there again, who knows 190 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: what it is? Okay, So let's let's let's talk about this, 191 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: all right. A starter is a pretty simple animal, all right. 192 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: It's it's got a heavy battery cable going to it 193 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: that provides the correct amount of current or amperage. It 194 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: provides the electrical energy. And it's got a switch wire 195 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: or a solenoid wire. I think in your case it's 196 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: brown with a white trace, but regardless, all right, the 197 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: you turn the ignition switch and you energize that brown 198 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: white wire which through the ground leg feeds out to 199 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: the solenoid and kicks the starter motor out, turns it 200 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: over and throws the bendix out. The bendix and the solenoid, 201 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: as you're thinking of it, are two separate things, all right, 202 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: your old school, your old school, like me, Cherry or Jerry, 203 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: I get it. Um, So just just be mindful you 204 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: changed the solenoid, the electrical device, the electrical portion of 205 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: the starter itself, just the solenoid, or you change the 206 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: whole starter. Well, apparently the starter and the solenoid is 207 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: all on one unit right right with most of your 208 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: That's why I'm asking because if you, if you did, 209 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: were able to change just the solenoid, you did something 210 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: I've not seen yet be able to be done. So 211 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: my point becomes, if you just if you change the 212 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: starter assembly, which it sounds like what you did, where 213 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: did that part come from? Was it? Was it a 214 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: good brand? Was it a name brand? What did you 215 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: pay for the starter repair that? Oh? I don't know. 216 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: Um right, I don't have that paper in front of me. 217 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: The mechanic he got it from somebody, and he's very 218 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: reliable mechanics, so right now, I don't know where he 219 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: got it from. UM I'm getting I think that you've 220 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: paid about one hundred and thirty dollars for it. Okay, 221 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: so let's let's do this. You know that single wire 222 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: that I talk about going to the solenoid. If I 223 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: don't really know much about the stuff, I'm just trying 224 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: to get your opinions right. I'm still doing this again 225 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: after it was good for about six cold starts and 226 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: then it start it up again. Okay, let me finish 227 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: my thought. All right, there's a single wire going to 228 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: the starter solingoid. All right, if we can measure we 229 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: can measure voltage at that single wire when you release 230 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: the key, does voltage stop feeding that wire? If there's 231 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: no voltage at that wire and the starter is still 232 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: engaged in the flywheel, the problem is more mechanical than 233 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: it is electrical. And the problem is either in the 234 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: starter or in the flywheel. The easy way to determine 235 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: if it's in the flywheel is if when the starter 236 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: is out, turn the engine over by hand and look 237 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: at the teeth. Count the teeth, look, start and stop, 238 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: start to finish. Is there any jagged parts of the 239 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: flywheel that looks like it might cause the starter drive 240 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: to hang up? Generally the flywheels don't cause that condition. 241 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: It's usually a condition found in the starter. All right, 242 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: it's a three step process. Do I have voltage on 243 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: this wire? Yes? Or no? If I don't, then it's 244 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: mechanically the starters hanging up. Is it the starter or 245 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: is it the flywheel? Pull the starter out. If you 246 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: don't see any damage to the flywheel teeth, I'm betting 247 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: it's in the starter itself. Get yourself a better brand 248 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: of starter. Okay, And what color is this wire is 249 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: a white wire. It's it's a it should be a 250 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: brown wire with a white tracer on it, but it 251 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: won't matter. It's the only wire going to the starter solenoid. 252 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: All right, wire to the starter right? Not right, the 253 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: wire to the starter solenoid, not to the starter and 254 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: not not the battery cable. The single thin gage or 255 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: single thin wire going to the starter solenoid. That's what 256 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: triggers the starter toid. Okay, okay, do you think that 257 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: might be the problem, Just like I described it, simple 258 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: as that. So it could be a bad um, could 259 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: be a big star, could be a bad remanufactured starter. No, 260 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: don't keep calling to the solenoid. Could be a bad 261 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: remanufactured because the mechanics that it's all in one unit 262 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: right the start. It's not a but it's not a 263 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: starter solenoid. It's a starter. It's a starter assembly that 264 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: has a solenoid in it. Let's just call it the 265 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: proper term. That's all I'm trying to do. So it's 266 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: between the starter and the flywheel. Once you prove there's 267 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: no more voltage on that solenoid feedwire, call me back 268 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: if you need more eight five five five six zero 269 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. We'll return right after this when 270 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: you get home. Keep Ron's number handy eight five five 271 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero for when you 272 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: really need advice on your car. Here's Rob. Hey, let's 273 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Bob in Long Island. Question 274 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: about buying a new car. Bob, welcome to the car doctor, Sir, 275 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: How can I help? I guess run. I'm looking to 276 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: purchase a used Chrysler minivan. Okay, Now this doesn't seem 277 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: to be too much available on the Walker. So I 278 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: actually looked at Enterprise rent a Car or whatever to 279 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: see a twenty or twenty one Chrysler Voyage. But it 280 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: has three point six and I think it had to 281 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: see you have transmission? Am I set myself up for 282 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: a disaster? Well, you know not, if that's what you 283 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: want to vibe, Bob, I mean, yeah, that's that's that's 284 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: three six. Although the three six in the last four 285 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: or five years seems to have gotten better. The head 286 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: problems that they had, valve seat issues and the cylinder 287 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: heads themselves being a problem have seemed to have gone away, 288 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: so you know, they have gotten better. Again, it depends 289 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: on just how are you going to maintain it and 290 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: all you can do is give it your best advantage. 291 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: As far as the trans itself, it's not that the 292 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: transs are a problem. It's just that they don't really 293 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: make it easy to service. So just be mindful of that. 294 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: You know, do the trans is go one hundred thousand miles? Yeah? 295 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: Everything does. I mean a lot of things go one hundred, 296 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty thousand miles. It's just that when 297 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: they get to that next step, you know, to get 298 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: from it seems like they get from one hundred and 299 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty thousand miles to two hundred thousand. 300 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: That's the trick, you know. It's like you can make 301 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: it into your sixties? Can you make it to be 302 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: one hundred? What do you do between sixty and one hundred? 303 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: You stop smoking, you lose weight, you work out a 304 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: little bit, and you drink less. Although it seems like 305 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: that's when you should be doing it more. But um, 306 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's you get my point right, It's it's 307 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: it's it's yeah, it's how well do you take care 308 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: of it? Um? What should I consider doing the BG 309 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: service on the transmission? I would consider if I'm buying 310 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: a used vehicle. I am going to do a fluid service. 311 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: If it's wet, I'm changing it all right now, this 312 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: is this is a twenty one. How many miles are 313 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: on it? It's they have quite a bit of miles 314 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: or Rudy fifty sixty thousand miles on those. Yeah, So 315 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: if they've got fifty thousand and miles on them, I'm 316 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: gonna change all the fluids. I'm gonna I'm gonna baseline, 317 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do, I'm gonna be early, I'm gonna do coolant, 318 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do trans I'm gonna do obviously, engine oil, break, fluid, 319 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: and anything else I can get my hands on. If 320 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: it's wet, I change it this way. I know the 321 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: day I took ownership, three years after the car was born, 322 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: I know that I did everything, and there's no question 323 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: in my mind, all right. I like rental cars because 324 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: they can show you, you know, maintenance records. They should 325 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: be able to show you and say, hey Bob, we 326 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: change fluid here, here, here, and here. But I don't 327 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: like rental cars because I see how people drive them. 328 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: They're not theirs and people people can be harder on 329 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: a rental So you know, it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. 330 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: It's a gut call. It's how do you feel when 331 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: you sit in the car, does it look like it 332 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: had a hardware and tear? Of course that doesn't tell 333 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: you everything, but you know, a modern automobile with proper 334 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: maintenance can take a bit of abuse, probably more so 335 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: than the cars we were driving ten, fifteen, twenty twenty 336 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: five years ago. To a large degree, things aren't made better. 337 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: It's just that when they break, it's more expensive now, 338 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: and dealing with the technology has a higher cost factor 339 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: as well. Okay, now, as far as do it yourself 340 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: cooling system is a special way that three point six 341 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: would have to be bled out. Well, yeah, And the 342 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: problem is if you do coolant on your own, what 343 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: are you gonna do. You're gonna drain the radiator, yeah, 344 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: and if you disconnected the heat holes and yeah, but 345 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: you're still not going to get you See, the problem 346 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: is you're not gonna get what's in the bottom of 347 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: the block, and you're not going to get what's in 348 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: the bottom of the heater core. And if this has 349 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: rear heat, you're not going to get the bottom. You're 350 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: not going to get the bottom or the rear heater 351 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: core out as well. You've really got to find somebody 352 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 1: that's got a coolant machine. You know, we talked about this. 353 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: We had the folks on from MALA Service Solutions. We 354 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: were talking about cooling system repairs and coolant exchanges, and 355 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: they pointed out that, you know, raining the radiator only 356 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: drains about a third of the cooling system out, whereas 357 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: doing a complete exchange as they do with their machines 358 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: from MALA, gets it all. So that's why you want 359 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: to try and do a cooling exchange, not just a 360 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: draining fill. So appreciate the call. Bob Hey. Coming up next, 361 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: Tom Greca talking about the Northeast. Learn everything you want 362 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: to learn next weekend. Be back right after this, come 363 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: go elect Welcome back, listeners round and nating in the 364 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: car doctor. And you know, this time of year is 365 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: a great time of year, especially if you're out here 366 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: in the Northeast. You're traveling to the Northeast because next weekend, 367 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: the biggest regional show for the automotive industry is going 368 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: to be down here at the Metal Lands. And as always, 369 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: my good friend Tom Greco, he's the editor in chief 370 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: of New Jersey Automotive Magazine, amongst many others. And I 371 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: always blame Tom for me getting my start in radio 372 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: and writing, because thirty five years ago he sat me 373 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: down in an office interviewed me for the magazine and 374 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: he said, you know, if we get you to write 375 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: like you talk, you might have something here. And thirty 376 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: five years later, we're here. Tom. I'm kidding you know. 377 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: I love you to death. Welcome back, sir. How are you? Thanks? Ryan? 378 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. A long time ago, my friend, long 379 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: time ago, very long time ago. Right, it's good to 380 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: go down memory lane. Northeast ASP New Jersey's Northeast Automotive 381 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: Trade Show coming up at the Metal Lands. You know, 382 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: it's a show geared towards the industry, but it's also 383 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: there for the do it yourself or for that person 384 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: that's working on their car in their garage, the person 385 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: that's doing body work, the person that's interested in things 386 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: as far as the industry is concerned. So it's got 387 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of something for everybody. You know, if 388 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: you are going to explain what Northeast is all about 389 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: to someone on a very simple term, how would you 390 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: how would you do it well, first of all, I 391 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: think it's it's a educational trade show that delivers the 392 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: best in education for the automotive repair industry and also 393 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: the largest trade show on the side of the country 394 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: for people like you mentioned that they're inter repairing cars, 395 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: for body shops, specifically for cleision repair shops, for mechanical shops. 396 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: We have everything on the floor that you could possibly 397 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: need to repair a car, and we also have everything 398 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: in the educational end of that that shows you how 399 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: to repair the car properly, especially in these ever changing times, 400 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: which you will know about. Yeah, oh yeah, you know, 401 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the slate of seminars you've got. Let me, 402 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, what time you've got like fifteen seminars going 403 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: on here, A DOS and U repair procedures, ev. Yeah. Everything. 404 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: We're trying to cover the gamut because again, as you 405 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: well know, Ron, the technology changes almost hourly these days. 406 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: So um, you know, it's not your your your father's 407 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: automotive repair business anymore, that's not your brother's automotive repair 408 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: business anymore. Because if you don't adapt, you die, and 409 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: a lot of people, as you know, as I think 410 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: we talked about maybe touched on last year is that 411 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: the pandemic really didn't affect the cleisure impair industry that 412 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: that much because they were deemed they need. They were 413 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: needed I can't remember what the term was, but essential. 414 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: So you know, many body shops, CLEARSI repair shops were 415 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: full and they still they're still full from the pandemic. 416 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: So they've had a couple of really good years business wise. Um, 417 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: So with that, you know, they don't have time to 418 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: keep you know, ahead of what's going on with guardard 419 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: to all the changes, you know, just last month or 420 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: not the last month. Earlier this month, Governor Murphrey said 421 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: he wants everything electric by twenty thirty five, I think 422 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: in New Jersey, which we knew was going to happen 423 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: because he said he wants New Jersey to be the 424 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: California of the East. So, um, you know, our guys, 425 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: the people that fixed cars, they need to adapt because 426 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: if they don't, they're gonna be left behind. And UM, 427 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: to come to a show like ours is where is 428 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: the first step? You can take the educational classes. You 429 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: could learn from the industry's best and see what's coming 430 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: down the road, but then also learn how to adapt 431 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: to it. And then you can go out and the 432 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: show four and find the tools and equipment and everything 433 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: else that you needed to stay with that and repair 434 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: the car properly. It's really the total package and once 435 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: stop shopping for the automotive repair industry on this side 436 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: of the country. And and you know it's only a 437 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: drive away. You don't have to get on a plane, 438 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: you don't have to get a hotel room. You can 439 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: drive up to the show, come in, spend four or 440 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: five hours, and hopefully spend more than that because the 441 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: three day event. But there's so much going on that 442 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: you won't leave the show without something that will put 443 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: money in your pocket. That's really the key to way. 444 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: It's a selling show too, tom right. I mean there's 445 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: going to be some vendors there, you know, tools of 446 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: the trade, that type of thing selling. And then obviously 447 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: the bigger equipment isn't leaving the show floor that day. 448 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: But if you're interested in you know, you want to 449 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: go see a comparison of spray booths. Sure all the 450 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: spray booth manufacturers are going to be there for example, 451 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: or the tire machine people are going to be there 452 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: so you can see, you know, cross analysis of who's 453 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: got what and how this works, and there's gonna be 454 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: demos going on, and you know how certain things apply 455 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: to whatever situation you're looking for. Corrected, It always was 456 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: a working selling shows. It still is right exactly, and 457 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: that that's kind of what makes us different from most 458 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: of the other shows out there, is the fact that 459 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: you can come in and you can do either or 460 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: you can come in you put you it's a very 461 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: hands on show, you know what I mean. You'll be 462 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: able to use them with the equipment, the bigger equipment, 463 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: like you said, you won't take home, but you will 464 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: get a great show deal where you wouldn't get anywhere 465 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: else if you went online, or if you went through 466 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: a magazine or if you win anywhere else. You're going 467 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: to get a show deal with Northeastern. You get a 468 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: deal that you're not going to get anywhere else. And 469 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: then you'll but you'll also be able to try the 470 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: product before you make such a huge investment. Then, like 471 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 1: you said, coming down, whether it's tools or things that 472 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: you know, sand there's anything you need to take back 473 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: to the shop the next day or that day itself 474 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: that's available at the show as well as well. You 475 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: put the money down you take it, you go, and 476 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: we have something for every everybody there. Tom. You know, 477 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: and you've been full disclosure, right, You've been in the 478 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: You've seen the body business grow from over the last 479 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: thirty five years from you know what it was to 480 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: what it is now. What would just say in the 481 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: last year has been the biggest challenge for the body shops. 482 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to see this writing the magazine 483 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: and doing everything you do and and is that covered 484 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: here at the trade show? Well, I think it all 485 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: comes back to technology on and then you know, the 486 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: ev thing is is big and when we have a 487 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: seminar in that a dass is huge. Um, a big 488 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: thing more than anything I think other than that the 489 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, the usual insurance problem that they have, UM, 490 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: it's finding employees, you know. And that's a that's a 491 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: problem for most any business, but even more so in 492 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: a business like like automotive repair, because you need a 493 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: train technician. It's not like you can take anybody and 494 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: mold them. You need to have somebody with some kind 495 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: of um, either interest in fixing cars or love of cars. Um. 496 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: And it's just getting harder and harder and harder for 497 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: these guys to find employees, and when they can't do 498 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: that and they can't fix the car, then the customer 499 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: has to wait and the whole thing gets thrown off. 500 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: So we have one seminaris quote supercharger business and attract 501 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: the best employees. That's something that you know can apply 502 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: to any business owner, but specifically in this business because, 503 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: as you said, I see it and say, the articles 504 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: are write about the number one thing that our industry 505 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: has a problem with is getting people qualify people to 506 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: work for them. And sometimes it's not about the people 507 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: that are out there, it's about you as shop owner 508 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: and how you do your business however in your shop, 509 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: and that's one of the classes that we're presenting that well, 510 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: you know, we'll help people learn how to do that 511 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: better and attract better employees and hopefully make it a 512 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: little bit easier. And I see, I see one of 513 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: the panel discussions over the course of next weekend is 514 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: going to be what does it take to be the 515 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: shop of the future, you know, And I can imagine 516 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: what the body shops have to invest. I've heard stories 517 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: that if you want to be a Tesla repair facility, 518 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: for example, it's it's an investment of one hundred twenty 519 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: thousand dollars to get started, and you know, at least yeah, 520 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: and then you go from there and I'm sure as 521 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: their technology changes, your cost to do that will change, 522 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: and then that will be passed on to either the 523 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: consumer the insurance company, and it's an ever ever increasing 524 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: cycle of what's going to happen. Absolutely, certification is a 525 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: big thing now going on in an industry where you know, 526 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: the manufacturers are picking shops to be certified, and then 527 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: whenever you know, a person gets in saying a Tesla 528 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: collision or an accident, the Tesla testa will say, okay, 529 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: there's only three or four shops in the area they 530 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: can go to do repair our car, the only ones 531 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: we're going to sell our parts too, the only ones 532 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: that are qualified and trained to do that. That seems 533 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: to be an ever growing topic and where we do 534 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: deal we are going to deal with that the show 535 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: in what order it takes to be the shop of 536 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: the future. But that you know, that's kind of you know, 537 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: there's a there's direct repair still out there, which is 538 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's not similar to a different concept with 539 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: insurance companies, but it's kind of in the same vein 540 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: where a third party dictates them, dictates where the custom 541 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: brings the car right. So there's a lot of different 542 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: parts of the puzzle. In specifically in the collision field 543 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: that doesn't really apply to other industries whether and that 544 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: includes mechanical it's just that you know, you know, you know, 545 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: as a mechanical shop, Okay, you do the work, you 546 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: build a customer boom, it's done with body shops, it's 547 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy, but it's so much more complicated 548 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: than that because you're dealing with so many different other 549 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: aspects where it's not just a matter of here's your 550 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 1: your repair, pay me, it's you know, you gotta deal 551 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: with the insurance company, or you got to deal with 552 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: the manufacturer or if you're if you're certified. Um, it's 553 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: just again, it could it could make your head spin. 554 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: And that's where we come in with Northeast. We try 555 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: and present an educational slate that will educate are the 556 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: repairs in the States so that they're aware of this 557 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: and know what they need to do to survive in 558 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: the future. And like I said, once they're done with 559 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: the education, they step out on the floor and they 560 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: find the equipment in the tools in order to continue 561 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: that and be able to sustain the business. A great 562 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: tradition Northeast twenty three, forty four years, forty four years 563 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: is more arches on down here at the Meadowlands in 564 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: New Jersey, Right Tom, it's this weekend, March seventeenth, eighteenth 565 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: and nineteenth. Next weekend, I mean Friday March seventeenth, Saturday 566 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: March eighteenth, and Sunday March nineteenth our show day floors. Tom, 567 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: we're can the listeners go get more information? My friend 568 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: Ron ain't go to www. Dot AA, sp n J 569 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: Northeast dot com. Okay aesp NJ Northeast dot com. Or 570 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure if they just go Google search Northeast Trade Show, 571 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: Meadal Lands, I'm sure it'll come up that way as well. Right, absolutely, 572 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: And we advise everybody to preregister. It's free. I mean, 573 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: if you're pre registered fore you come up, it's it's 574 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: at ten bucks. But very we spread. We put out 575 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: so many free tickets and get the word across the 576 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: preregister that most people don't have to pay at the door. 577 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: So hopefully everybody will pre register and walk right in 578 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: and get the registration and walk right in and just 579 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: enjoy what we have to offer. Cool beans, Tom, my friend, 580 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: you'd be well. It was good talking to you. Will 581 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: We'll catch up with you again sometime too. Ron, thank 582 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: you so much. You're very welcome. I'm Ronneinny and the 583 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: car Doctor. We are back right after this. Don't go away, 584 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take you there, So Tom, there you go. Enough, 585 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: go away, Tom. We have a problem. M Rodney writes 586 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: in from Pittsburgh. We have a fan club out in Pittsburgh, 587 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: peing now. When Rodney is our one of our biggest believers, 588 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: he actually is a sort of a grassroots fan club. 589 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: I know Rodney personally through family, and Rodney assures me 590 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: in his email here says, hey, Ron, I wrote you 591 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: to remind you that you have to do a shout 592 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: out and say hi to my wife because she doesn't 593 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: believe that I really know you, and she gets annoyed 594 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: every time I'm in the car with her and I'm 595 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: always playing the podcast and she doesn't understand how I 596 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: can continue to listen to you twenty war seven. Look 597 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: at that, Tom, twenty four to seven. Somebody's listening to me. 598 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: So to my band, there's always one in every crowd. 599 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: There's always one in every crowd. So to my buddy 600 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: Rodney out there Janette, Pa just south of Pittsburgh, I 601 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: want to do a shout out and say I love 602 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: you and I appreciate I appreciate you supporting the cause 603 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: and believing in the system, and say hi to Anita 604 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: as well. But we'll see you again real soon. So yeah, 605 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: that was for Rodney. I meant to do that. Article 606 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: came out recently talking about thirty one percent of new 607 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: cars are selling for a buff sticker price. Did anybody 608 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: see this that the price of cars has just gone 609 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: through the roof. I can't believe what cars are costing. 610 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: We had a customer in this week with a ninety 611 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: four thousand dollars twenty twenty two Chevy suburban. Think about 612 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: that a minute. And it wasn't even loaded. I mean 613 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: it had a lot of the good stuff, and it 614 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: had the air suspension that had the heads up camera 615 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: displays all, but it didn't have the DVD players in 616 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: the back seats. I mean there was things you could have. 617 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: Could you can spend one hundred grand on a suburban? 618 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: Now it's crazy, and you know, how do you justify that? 619 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: I want to hey, afford that I feel for people. 620 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: I look at, you know, some of the things that 621 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: people have to go through, and I just I don't know. 622 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: Cars have to change. Something has to change in the 623 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: way that we approach the purchase of and the pricing 624 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: the price of cars. It's just skyrockets. It's just you know, 625 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: the article I'm talking about, I'll go back to that, 626 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: the average new car price in February was, Tommy, you 627 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: want to take a guess what the average new car 628 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: price was in February this year, fifty grand close forty 629 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: five two ninety six compared with the average manufacturer suggested 630 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: retail price was forty one six. So the average car 631 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: sold four thousand dollars over sticker for the month of February, 632 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: which is you know, I was going to ask, how 633 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: does the bank when you go to for the bank loan, 634 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: how do they justify that? But I know someone who 635 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: was recently in a car crash. The car book value 636 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: was seven grand, you know, the car was totaled. They 637 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: gave him fourteen grand because of the price of cars, right, 638 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: And it was like, really, well, this is all going 639 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: to come home to roost, I think, because economically it 640 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. So if we're paying more for something 641 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: because of market value, that's not real value, is it. 642 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that is. You don't have to be 643 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: an economics professor and explain that to me. Because it's 644 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: only worth fourteen thousand dollars this month. Next month it's 645 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: going to go back to being worth seven thousand dollars. 646 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: You know, how does that affect the economy because that 647 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: other seven grand has to come from somewhere. So it 648 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: continues onward. Nine zero zero will be back to wrap 649 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: it up right after this. Don't go away, welcome back. 650 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: Let me answer this email. This is from Peter and 651 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: tennessee Ron. At the beginning of the show, you were 652 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: talking about replacing the alternator in the belt on a 653 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: twenty ten Honda Accord. You didn't talk anything about the tensioner, 654 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: and you said you would. There was something specific you 655 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: wanted to mention. Peter, thank you for keeping me honest, 656 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: and you're right. The problem with this generation accord is 657 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: and it was a good thing this customer had dropped 658 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: it off to the shop because they never would have 659 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: been able to do it on their own. The tensioner failed. 660 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: But the tensioner on this generation accord uses a short 661 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: little The best way I can describe it as it 662 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: looks like a little shock absorber and it's mounted down low, 663 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: and it was frozen. It was one hundred eighty six 664 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: thousand mile vehicle that you hadn't seen, you know, the 665 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: time of day or the light of day in quite 666 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: a while. We see this car very infrequently. It just runs. 667 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: And when we went to take the alternator belt off, 668 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: we couldn't move the tension or it was just locked 669 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: in place. We gave it some time, we let it 670 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: warm up, we let it sit in the shop because 671 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: it was called that day and we couldn't get this 672 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: This shock was just stiff as could be. We ended 673 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: up having to cut the belt off and then we 674 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: had to get the tension or apart, which was a 675 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: little bit of a trick because the steel bolt going 676 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: through the center of it feeds into an aluminum block, 677 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: and the steel and the aluminum didn't really want to 678 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: talk too well. We're able to get it started and 679 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: then it stopped and I went back in. PB Blaster 680 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: helped me a lot here. I got a shot of 681 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: PB using the pro strode down onto the threads of 682 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: the bolt let it work in there. The creep action 683 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: just eventually allowed that bolt to loosen up. And the 684 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 1: more I did it back and forth and a little 685 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: shot of PB and back and forth, out it came. 686 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: Now I got to find another tensioner. Honda's short on parts, 687 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: it really, they really are. There's a lot they don't 688 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: have anymore in a twelve year old car. They couldn't 689 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: even get me attention or for this vehicle. For a 690 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: couple of days. Gates Gates came through as they always 691 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: do in the clutch. I was able to get a 692 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 1: Gates tensioner for this car. Great quality. I think it's 693 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: probably better than Nooe quality. The way it looked. They 694 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: had some redesigns in it. They did a great job 695 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: on it. But thanks to the folks over at Gates 696 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: Belt and tensioner belts and tensioners, we were able to 697 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: get this car back out the door. So gates came 698 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: through for us one, two, three, We're able to get 699 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: it finished in out the same day. So just good stuff, 700 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: good stuff. And that's what ended up being. Just the 701 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: bolt and availability of parts, Peter, That's what I wanted 702 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: to stress till the next time I'm run at and 703 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: the car doctor, reminding all of you good mechanics aren't expensive, 704 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: they're priceless. See you m