WEBVTT - Lab 027: Here Comes the Boom

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we've got to talk about the elephant in

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<v Speaker 1>the room. As soon as we thought that the list,

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<v Speaker 1>like you couldn't pile anymore on top of us. In

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, we've had enough. Then y'all started shooting off

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<v Speaker 1>fireworks every day.

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<v Speaker 2>But what are we celebrating? I don't know. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. It's like all the rules have been broken,

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<v Speaker 2>like people are. I heard fireworks two nights ago in

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<v Speaker 2>my neighborhood. I heard fireworks during the day.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't even see those anywhere, you though, what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm t T and I'm Zachiah and from Spotify.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Dope Labs.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Zee, listen to this. What is that?

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<v Speaker 1>I know you know this sound because it has been

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<v Speaker 1>keeping us all up at night. It should have sent

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<v Speaker 1>shivers down your spine. Is the fireworks and this sounds specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>are fireworks in my neighborhood that I was hearing at

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<v Speaker 1>night not too long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going on. Did everybody get together?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I missed the meeting because I didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>any fireworks. I don't know who was handing them out

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<v Speaker 1>or what. But it's mind boggling, and it's driving a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people nuts. I've seen a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>ranting on Twitter and on Instagram about fireworks and being

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<v Speaker 1>kept up late because of fireworks and how it's driving

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<v Speaker 1>them crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was initially thinking, Okay, this is just limited to

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet, these are jokes. But then The New York

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<v Speaker 2>Times ran a piece talking about the conspiracy theories, and

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<v Speaker 2>that told me that we needed to investigate. So today's

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<v Speaker 2>lab is all about fireworks. We're going to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>exactly how they work and what you should probably consider

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<v Speaker 2>before you jump in on this. Let's get into the recitation.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do we know? I know people keep setting

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<v Speaker 2>the fireworks off I know that they're supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>illegal here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we know that, you know, fireworks can be

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<v Speaker 1>cultural and that folks love them. They range in what

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<v Speaker 1>they look like, what they sound like, and their size.

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<v Speaker 2>But beyond that, I don't know too much. I know

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoy them, which is crazy to me because the

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<v Speaker 2>things I enjoy I really like to really dig deep.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do we want to know? We want to

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<v Speaker 2>know what are the basics behind fireworks. I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>know how they work.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to know why are there so many

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<v Speaker 1>fireworks going off in neighborhoods?

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if everybody else got their pyrotechnic license,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like there's some basic safety we need

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<v Speaker 2>to cover.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know how the field, like, how the

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<v Speaker 1>fireworks field has changed over the years, and what can

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<v Speaker 1>we expect in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw on Twitter a couple of weeks ago some

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<v Speaker 2>drones doing a firework display? Is that the new firework drones?

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<v Speaker 2>So you're gonna be able to shoot a firework from

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<v Speaker 2>your iPhone? Yep? Is you're going to be an app?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you send the message, now you can send

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<v Speaker 2>it with confetti. It is going to be a real

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<v Speaker 2>firework in a sky. Yes. For closer to the hunger

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<v Speaker 2>games that we thought, let's jump into the dissection.

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<v Speaker 1>In this lab, we brought in pyrotechnics expert Fran Scott.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Frank Scott, and I'm a pyrotechnician and engineering presenter

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<v Speaker 3>and a general maker.

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<v Speaker 2>Pyrotechnics is the science and art of self contained and

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<v Speaker 2>sustained reactions, and those reactions make heat, light, gas, smoke, sound,

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<v Speaker 2>you name it. Fireworks are just one type of pyrotechnic.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So first we had to figure out, like where

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<v Speaker 1>do we even start with fireworks?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it seemed.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a good place to start would be with fire.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been fascinated with fire, like I like candles,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's nobody's business. And yes, I like the aroma,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think half of that, maybe seventy five percent,

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<v Speaker 2>is just striking a match. You know. I can remember

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid, and I don't even think I told

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<v Speaker 2>my parents this. My grandma used to keep matches in

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom, and you would light a match if it

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<v Speaker 2>was really stinky in there. Uh huh man, I was

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<v Speaker 2>a match light and ful. Okay. I would go in there,

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<v Speaker 2>people would be outside. I'd go right in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that pack of matches and I'll just let

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<v Speaker 2>it sizzle. Sometimes I was stick it in water to

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<v Speaker 2>see what was gonna happen. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>where that fascination comes from. Are you? Are you fascinated

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<v Speaker 2>with fire?

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<v Speaker 1>Tet No, I'm not a pyromaniac, so I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have these I don't have these problems. But now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried, see I am, because you do have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of candles in your house.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just reflecting.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, hmm, okay, so now I know what

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<v Speaker 1>my friend has been doing during the quarantine, relaxing, keeping

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<v Speaker 1>herself busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Light fires.

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<v Speaker 1>So with fire, fire is something that I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>most people interact with, but none of us know really

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<v Speaker 1>what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fire is a plasma, so it's a charged gas.

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<v Speaker 2>With fire, we'll all.

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<v Speaker 3>Gladly sit round it and look at it. But if

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<v Speaker 3>you were to ask someone what is it. Is it

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<v Speaker 3>a liquid, is it a gas. If it's a gas,

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<v Speaker 3>why can we see it? Why does it change color?

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it orange? Why is it red? Why does

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<v Speaker 3>it flow in that certain way? All of these questions

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<v Speaker 3>that most people, including myself, would be like, hang on,

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<v Speaker 3>just let me google a little bit, because it's so intriguing,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet we we actually as a population, know so

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<v Speaker 3>little about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So a fire starts when a material is rapidly oxidized,

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<v Speaker 1>so that means that it's losing electrons at a really

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<v Speaker 1>really rapid rate, and energy is also released in the

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<v Speaker 1>form of heat, light and other things, and then a

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<v Speaker 1>flame is produced. And when you think about how quickly

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<v Speaker 1>we see a flame when it comes to fire, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how quickly those reactions that I was talking about happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's happened so quickly that there's really we don't visually

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<v Speaker 2>see any time between when we light a match and

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<v Speaker 2>when we see the flame. Right, I never thought about

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<v Speaker 2>it that way. Usually we don't. But I have these

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<v Speaker 2>matches and they're really cheap and there is a delay. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm serious. I got them from home goods. They're really cute.

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<v Speaker 2>They say stuff like you go girl, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. Stay calm, be focused. That's exactly what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>There's that first strike, those materials on the tip of

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<v Speaker 2>that match are being oxidized, and then the flame comes up. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, once that flame is produced and all these

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<v Speaker 1>reactions are continuing to occur over and over and over again,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the reason why that flame stays alive and it's

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<v Speaker 1>releasing gas. That reaction is the foundation of what Fran

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<v Speaker 1>does as a pyrotechnician.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole basis of explosions and pyrotechnics is the faster

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<v Speaker 3>something burns, the fraaster it produces hot gases, which means

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<v Speaker 3>when it actually expands, that it expands so quickly that

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<v Speaker 3>you hear a bang.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's in a firework? What are the main ingredients?

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<v Speaker 3>The main ingredient for most of the firework is basically

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<v Speaker 3>gunpowder and gunpowder if you don't know, it's like what

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<v Speaker 3>we call black powder. They're basically the same stuff, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're a mix of charcoal, sulfur, and potassium nitrate.

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<v Speaker 1>So from the charcoal you get carbon, and carbon acts

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<v Speaker 1>as your fuel, and from the potassium nitrate you get oxygen.

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<v Speaker 1>When you mix carbon and oxygen together, they're going to burn,

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<v Speaker 1>but they burn pretty slowly. Dting the sulfur is what

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<v Speaker 1>makes all the difference. Sulfur is the intensifier. It melts

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<v Speaker 1>at one hundred and twenty degrees celsius.

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<v Speaker 2>For those of y'all who don't live in celsius, that's

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<v Speaker 2>around two hundred and fifty degrees fahrenheit lower than you'd

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<v Speaker 2>even set your oven.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when it starts to melt, then it starts

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<v Speaker 1>to accept some of the oxygen that's already in this reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>and that turns the sulfur into sulfur dioxide. Sulfur dioxide

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<v Speaker 1>releases energy in the form of heat, and that heat

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<v Speaker 1>will interact with the carbon and the oxygen that's already there,

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<v Speaker 1>so that keeps that initial burning reaction going and it

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<v Speaker 1>speeds it up. And so that's how you get the

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<v Speaker 1>bang because all of these reactions are happening so quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you cram that black powder into a tube

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<v Speaker 3>and you have it open at one end, if you

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<v Speaker 3>like that tube, that that hot gas needs to go somewhere,

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<v Speaker 3>So it comes out at the bottom of the tube

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<v Speaker 3>and shoots it up into the air.

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<v Speaker 2>But once it's in the air, I'm still waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>the beautiful display. What gives fireworks their colors?

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<v Speaker 1>I think before we get too deep into the firework

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<v Speaker 1>color that there's some basic things that we need to

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<v Speaker 1>establish first.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, each element in the periodic table is made up

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<v Speaker 1>of atoms, and atoms are made up of protons, neutrons,

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<v Speaker 1>and electrons. The protons and neutrons are at the core,

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<v Speaker 1>and the electrons are all just spinning around that core.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are elements. And when you combuiny more than

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<v Speaker 2>one element, that's a compound, and some compounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Give off energy in the form of light when you

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<v Speaker 1>apply heat. We talked a lot about these things in

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<v Speaker 1>the Conda Forever episode, So you should definitely go back and.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to that. It was so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>But with fireworks, there's a different metal compound in each

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<v Speaker 1>firework that when you add heat, gives off light with

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<v Speaker 1>a specific color, and that's what's happening when the fireworks

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<v Speaker 1>burst in the sky.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, once they're up there, there's actually another part, and

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<v Speaker 3>that part is basically where all the effects are, and

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<v Speaker 3>in there there's more black powder. There's also things called stars.

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<v Speaker 2>And stars are like little container for the metal compounds.

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<v Speaker 2>So are there some preferred elements that people using fireworks?

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<v Speaker 3>So if you use barium, then it will become green,

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<v Speaker 3>if you use strontium, it'll become red.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the basics of a firework. So the charcoal,

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<v Speaker 2>sulfur and potassium nitrate that's gonna get you up in

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<v Speaker 2>the air, and then these other metal compounds that burn

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<v Speaker 2>and give you different colors from that reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's just the build up of that gas

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<v Speaker 1>inside of this contained space that causes that huge boom,

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<v Speaker 1>that sound that's keeping us all up.

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<v Speaker 3>But the basics of a firework haven't actually changed since

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<v Speaker 3>they're invented about a thousand years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go back to six hundred to nine hundred AD.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in China. I'm your favorite cook, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>whipping it up in the kitchen. You know, I'm seizing

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<v Speaker 2>up these chicken legs. I have some little beef tender loins.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting it right. Okay, I hope I'm invited. M

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on how you act. And you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>mixing things together. I'm reaching for my saltpeter. That's potassium nitrate,

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<v Speaker 2>which was common then? Is that in season all? I

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<v Speaker 2>use season all everything, season all over Goya, So absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>you know where we stand with that. Yeah. So you

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<v Speaker 2>have your saltpeter, your charcoal, sulfur, and all these other ingredients,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're just like, oh, this is gonna be gill

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<v Speaker 2>to we sprinkle a little bit of this on here. Ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give him a little extra spice. Unwittingly, you're

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<v Speaker 2>making gunpowder. Okay, you're seasoning your chicken and then boom.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine nobody's gonna believe you? First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>but I guess they must have had a recipe because

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<v Speaker 2>they're able to recreate it. Once they figure this out,

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<v Speaker 2>they take this mixture and they put it in bamboo shoots,

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<v Speaker 2>and you already know. You take a bamboo shoot with

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<v Speaker 2>basically gunpowder in it and you throw it over a fire.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the birth of the fireworks.

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<v Speaker 1>My friends, we ask Fran what's her theory on all

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<v Speaker 1>these fireworks going off all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny because firework soft off can go into two

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<v Speaker 3>compartments in society. I would say, they can be the

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<v Speaker 3>celebration part and they can be the anarchy part. And

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment, I would say, in society we're sort

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<v Speaker 3>of in both is those phases.

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<v Speaker 2>That is very true. There's a lot going on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of folks were not celebrating the fourth of

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<v Speaker 1>July because not all people were free on Independence Day,

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<v Speaker 1>and also people were celebrating the fourth of July.

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<v Speaker 2>So sometimes the fireworks are a celebration or a way

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<v Speaker 2>of saying, hey, we're still here, We're glad to be alive.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a little bit of boom, a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of celebration for that. And then sometimes it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of anarchy, like we're still alive, but what the

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<v Speaker 2>heck is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, and trying to draw attention and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>people are still paying attention, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great metaphor for what's going on actually and

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<v Speaker 1>what we've been talking about so far in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>With the firework, it takes, you know, a light to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then these electrons get excited and then you get

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<v Speaker 1>this big boom. And that's the same thing. That's what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening with people with us, with what's going on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>There is an event that ignites all of these emotions

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<v Speaker 1>and feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone shifts to a hot to a different state. Yeah, response,

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone responds to that event right exactly, and then boom.

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<v Speaker 2>When we get back, we're going to get more into

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<v Speaker 2>the field of pyrotechnics at large and it will blow

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<v Speaker 2>your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we're back, and now we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the field of pyrotechnics more broadly.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my favorite things I learned when we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking to Fran was about the small pyrotechnics that exist

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<v Speaker 2>in our day to day that we don't even think about.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we talked to Fran about the materials she

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<v Speaker 1>uses in her demonstrations, and one of her favorite materials

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<v Speaker 1>is flash cotton.

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<v Speaker 3>Flash cotton is I'm a little bit obsessed with it

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<v Speaker 3>because it's basically nitrocellulose.

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<v Speaker 2>Nitrocellulose is this compound that is formed by adding nitrogen

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<v Speaker 2>groups to cellulose.

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<v Speaker 3>And what that means is it's just packed with oxygen,

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<v Speaker 3>which means it burns to completion.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you want to know what's crazy about this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I use nitrocellulose in the lab. What do you use

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<v Speaker 2>it for? When I ran Western blots, nitro cellulose was

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<v Speaker 2>the membrane I used to kind of capture the proteins,

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<v Speaker 2>so I would separate the proteins in a sample, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when you want to image them, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>hold them into something. You trap them on a nitrocellulose membrane.

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<v Speaker 2>Why didn't they catch on fire? They're flammable at two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred degrees celsius and I didn't have a spark or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that. Well, that's good, and I had great

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<v Speaker 2>lab safety skills. Hello, that's why they didn't catch on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good, that's good. But I never thought of I

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<v Speaker 2>never thought of them. I didn't know they were flashed

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<v Speaker 2>kind that it was the same material. It definitely didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that what other materials are used in pyrotechnics.

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<v Speaker 3>So hydrogen is an absolute It's a dream for developing

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<v Speaker 3>demonstrations because it just sets on fire so easily.

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<v Speaker 2>Worlds are pyrotechnics used.

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<v Speaker 3>They are all around us. So like airbags, for instance.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you didn't think that you had pyrotechnics in

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<v Speaker 1>your car.

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<v Speaker 3>So in an airbag, you have a small electronic match,

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<v Speaker 3>and once you light that match, that produces the hot gas,

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<v Speaker 3>which then actually inflates the airbag. Yeah, when you are

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<v Speaker 3>impacted that that will actually set off a switch which

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<v Speaker 3>then sets off the match.

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<v Speaker 2>The future of pyrotechnics is really wide open. What you

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<v Speaker 2>understand the basics. So Fran told us this really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>story of lighting a hydrogen rocket with her finger. She

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<v Speaker 2>said she was inspired by some YouTube videos of people

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<v Speaker 2>lighting buns and burners with their fingers, but I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like a bunsen burner and a hydrogen rocket is pretty different. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a my ministry, so I'm gonna have tt

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<v Speaker 2>explain how it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>The way that she was able to do this was

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<v Speaker 1>that she used a Vandergraft generator.

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<v Speaker 2>We've all seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a spherical silver ball that usually people put a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of glass around and then you'll see all these

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<v Speaker 1>little things that look like lightning bolts jumping out and

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<v Speaker 1>touching the glass around it.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I used to think of what a scientist was,

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<v Speaker 2>it was Albert Einstein touching a Vandergraft generator.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it makes it makes your hair stands, your

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<v Speaker 1>hair stand up. Yeah, what it is. This is an

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<v Speaker 1>electrostatic generator. And so from this electrostatic that's generated, if

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<v Speaker 1>you touch it and then you touch something else, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can shock it. Which I think we've all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of done something like that, whether it's using a Vandergraft

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<v Speaker 1>generator or rebinar feet on the carpet and then touching

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<v Speaker 1>our friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, that's a pastime. That static.

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<v Speaker 1>She can use that to make a spark. So she

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<v Speaker 1>was able to use a Vandergraft generator and through many,

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<v Speaker 1>many iterations, so she did a lot of research in

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<v Speaker 1>the lab. She was able to generate a significant enough

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<v Speaker 1>spark to light this hydrogen rocket.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to point out something friend is an expert. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't want y'all at home rubbing your feet

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<v Speaker 2>on the carpet trying to light your gas stove. Right, Please,

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<v Speaker 2>don't do nothing stupid. We're just here to give you

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<v Speaker 2>the information so you could talk about it with your friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't try this stuff at home. This is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the major things that stood out to me when everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was hearing fireworks everywhere, I was like, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>what are the safety protocols for this? And these fireworks

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<v Speaker 2>sound close. They sound close to my home and all

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<v Speaker 2>these apartments around here. Something's gonna catch on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>So we ask Fran, what are the big safety precautions

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<v Speaker 1>that folks should be taking when they are shooting off fireworks.

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<v Speaker 3>Distance is the biggest thing you can do to make

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<v Speaker 3>it safe.

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<v Speaker 2>One aspect of distance is distance from flammables.

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<v Speaker 3>People think, oh, a flammable that's kind of but tane

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<v Speaker 3>or light of fuel or whatever. No, it's your lawn.

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<v Speaker 3>It's your pile of leaves that you've just swept up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's your wooden shed that you haven't looked after for

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<v Speaker 3>like three years. It's that type of stuff that's the

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<v Speaker 3>things that can catch fire.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you think about your grass it's been a

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<v Speaker 2>really dry summer, if you have hair rain recently, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>wet the lawn. The second aspect of distance is distance

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<v Speaker 2>from you, and then Aside from distance, France says, we

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<v Speaker 2>should consider the weather, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's quite scary as well, because especially you know in

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<v Speaker 3>the northern hemisphere right now, you know we're going into summer,

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<v Speaker 3>things are getting dry. All it takes is a little

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<v Speaker 3>ember and that's it. That's an entire fire started.

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<v Speaker 1>Fran told us that in the UK that the time

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<v Speaker 1>of year that they're most likely to be shooting off

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<v Speaker 1>fireworks is in November, and part of that is because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot cooler and a lot wetter during that

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<v Speaker 1>time of year. In the US, we are shooting fireworks

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<v Speaker 1>off during the hottest, driest time of the year, which

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a recipe for disaster. Yes, so if you

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<v Speaker 1>already have fireworks in your possession, how should you be

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<v Speaker 1>storing them?

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<v Speaker 3>So I would say keep it in a lockable, unflammable cabinet,

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<v Speaker 3>because the most dangerous thing I would say that could

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<v Speaker 3>happen in households is people getting hold of them that

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't so your kids, your neighbors kids, and so by

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<v Speaker 3>putting it in a place that's got key, then you

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<v Speaker 3>know that it's only you that can access them.

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<v Speaker 2>So a minute ago, we just said distance is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most important things for kind of keeping you

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<v Speaker 2>safe if you're going to light fireworks. But luckily there

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<v Speaker 2>have been some advances in technology that can also get

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<v Speaker 2>you a little bit of space away from that lit fuse.

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<v Speaker 3>Fireworks nowadays, instead of you know, someone going around and

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<v Speaker 3>just lighting them with a stick, they're all done electronically,

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<v Speaker 3>so you can get these electronic matches, which again I

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<v Speaker 3>quite like the science behind them. These electronic matches are well,

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<v Speaker 3>they're just matches, but they've got a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>nichrome wire in and when you run electricity through the

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<v Speaker 3>nichrome wire, it heats up, it mounts, and it burns

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of potented material, which when you let

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<v Speaker 3>them off just themselves, they're basically just like a Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>cracker type spark, but when you put that in a

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<v Speaker 3>firework then it burns the bigger bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But those things can also go wrong. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if anybody else remembers there was a fireworks display in

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego and instead of a thirty minute show, all

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<v Speaker 2>those fireworks were on an automatic fuse and they all

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<v Speaker 2>went off at the same time. Please google it. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just one big loud bang, and there's someone took

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<v Speaker 2>a someone was taking the video and you can see

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<v Speaker 2>people like grabbing their partner trying to run away because

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<v Speaker 2>they knew something was definitely wrong. Right, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty big fail.

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<v Speaker 3>Recently, I was out in Singapore and I actually saw

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<v Speaker 3>a firework display in inverted croma is done by drones,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was totally different to a firework display because

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a firework display on mute.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that could be really cool, but I would

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<v Speaker 2>miss the sound. I like the boom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like part of fireworks is the sound

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<v Speaker 1>that goes along with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I think it might.

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<v Speaker 1>Be pretty cool because once you start thinking about drones

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<v Speaker 1>and what drones can do and how they move, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the possibilities are endless. You could be drawing all types

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff with those fireworks.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there will always be room in our lives

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<v Speaker 3>for things that go bang, because there is something so

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<v Speaker 3>innate that basically a bank scares us, and by scaring us,

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<v Speaker 3>it entertains us in a really weird way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's true. That's why I continue to watch

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<v Speaker 2>horror movies. You know, we love all things scary. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need any more political thrillers. That's happening in

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<v Speaker 2>real time. Just turn on your news. I'm excited about

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<v Speaker 2>the potential drones, but I'm all about the boom. I

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<v Speaker 2>like the display.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry we couldn't give people like advice on how

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<v Speaker 1>to stop the noise. Yeah, if you want to buy

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<v Speaker 1>some soundproofing stuff for your apartment or for your house.

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<v Speaker 2>We will put some links in the show notes. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have to tell them how to create basically a

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<v Speaker 2>podcast studio at home, because that's what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 1>The longer we're inside, I feel like the more that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be going off. Even while we've been

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<v Speaker 1>recording this, we've heard fireworks going off in Chicago and

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<v Speaker 1>in Maryland. So I don't know if there's an end

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<v Speaker 1>in sight. I'm sorry, but at least you know a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more about how they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you setting off fireworks? I want to know who's

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. Show yourself. I'm not going to report you.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to know. I want to see is

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<v Speaker 2>anybody under the sound of my voice.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for Lab twenty seven, but we have so

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<v Speaker 1>Dope Labs is produced by Jenny Radalit Mass of Wavernner Studios.

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<v Speaker 2>Mixing and sound design are by Hannes Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>Our theme music is by Taka Yasuzawa and Alex Sugiura,

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<v Speaker 1>with additional music by Elijah Alex Harvey. Dope Labs is

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<v Speaker 1>a production of Spotify and Mega Own Media Group, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's executive produced by US T T Show Dia and

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<v Speaker 1>Zakiah Wattley. When I think about everything that's going on

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<v Speaker 1>right now, the last thing I have time to do

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<v Speaker 1>is to go to another state to buy fireworks.

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<v Speaker 2>But they tracked. They traced most of the fireworks in

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<v Speaker 2>New York back to Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Pennsylvania has been causing a lot of trouble

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<v Speaker 1>over the last few years.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been dropping the ball. They gotta get it together.