Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got to talk about the elephant in
Speaker 1: the room. As soon as we thought that the list,
Speaker 1: like you couldn't pile anymore on top of us. In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, we've had enough. Then y'all started shooting off
Speaker 1: fireworks every day.
Speaker 2: But what are we celebrating? I don't know. And that's
Speaker 2: the thing. It's like all the rules have been broken,
Speaker 2: like people are. I heard fireworks two nights ago in
Speaker 2: my neighborhood. I heard fireworks during the day.
Speaker 1: We can't even see those anywhere, you though, what's happening.
Speaker 2: I'm t T and I'm Zachiah and from Spotify.
Speaker 1: This is Dope Labs.
Speaker 2: Okay, Zee, listen to this. What is that?
Speaker 1: I know you know this sound because it has been
Speaker 1: keeping us all up at night. It should have sent
Speaker 1: shivers down your spine. Is the fireworks and this sounds specifically,
Speaker 1: are fireworks in my neighborhood that I was hearing at
Speaker 1: night not too long ago.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. Did everybody get together?
Speaker 1: I mean I missed the meeting because I didn't get
Speaker 1: any fireworks. I don't know who was handing them out
Speaker 1: or what. But it's mind boggling, and it's driving a
Speaker 1: lot of people nuts. I've seen a lot of people
Speaker 1: ranting on Twitter and on Instagram about fireworks and being
Speaker 1: kept up late because of fireworks and how it's driving
Speaker 1: them crazy.
Speaker 2: I was initially thinking, Okay, this is just limited to
Speaker 2: the Internet, these are jokes. But then The New York
Speaker 2: Times ran a piece talking about the conspiracy theories, and
Speaker 2: that told me that we needed to investigate. So today's
Speaker 2: lab is all about fireworks. We're going to tell you
Speaker 2: exactly how they work and what you should probably consider
Speaker 2: before you jump in on this. Let's get into the recitation.
Speaker 2: So what do we know? I know people keep setting
Speaker 2: the fireworks off I know that they're supposed to be
Speaker 2: illegal here.
Speaker 1: I mean we know that, you know, fireworks can be
Speaker 1: cultural and that folks love them. They range in what
Speaker 1: they look like, what they sound like, and their size.
Speaker 2: But beyond that, I don't know too much. I know
Speaker 2: I enjoy them, which is crazy to me because the
Speaker 2: things I enjoy I really like to really dig deep.
Speaker 2: So what do we want to know? We want to
Speaker 2: know what are the basics behind fireworks. I don't really
Speaker 2: know how they work.
Speaker 1: And I want to know why are there so many
Speaker 1: fireworks going off in neighborhoods?
Speaker 2: And I don't know if everybody else got their pyrotechnic license,
Speaker 2: but I feel like there's some basic safety we need
Speaker 2: to cover.
Speaker 1: I want to know how the field, like, how the
Speaker 1: fireworks field has changed over the years, and what can
Speaker 1: we expect in the future.
Speaker 2: I saw on Twitter a couple of weeks ago some
Speaker 2: drones doing a firework display? Is that the new firework drones?
Speaker 2: So you're gonna be able to shoot a firework from
Speaker 2: your iPhone? Yep? Is you're going to be an app?
Speaker 2: You know, you send the message, now you can send
Speaker 2: it with confetti. It is going to be a real
Speaker 2: firework in a sky. Yes. For closer to the hunger
Speaker 2: games that we thought, let's jump into the dissection.
Speaker 1: In this lab, we brought in pyrotechnics expert Fran Scott.
Speaker 3: I'm Frank Scott, and I'm a pyrotechnician and engineering presenter
Speaker 3: and a general maker.
Speaker 2: Pyrotechnics is the science and art of self contained and
Speaker 2: sustained reactions, and those reactions make heat, light, gas, smoke, sound,
Speaker 2: you name it. Fireworks are just one type of pyrotechnic.
Speaker 1: Okay, So first we had to figure out, like where
Speaker 1: do we even start with fireworks?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it seemed.
Speaker 1: Like a good place to start would be with fire.
Speaker 2: I've always been fascinated with fire, like I like candles,
Speaker 2: like it's nobody's business. And yes, I like the aroma,
Speaker 2: But I think half of that, maybe seventy five percent,
Speaker 2: is just striking a match. You know. I can remember
Speaker 2: as a kid, and I don't even think I told
Speaker 2: my parents this. My grandma used to keep matches in
Speaker 2: the bathroom, and you would light a match if it
Speaker 2: was really stinky in there. Uh huh man, I was
Speaker 2: a match light and ful. Okay. I would go in there,
Speaker 2: people would be outside. I'd go right in the bathroom.
Speaker 2: I get that pack of matches and I'll just let
Speaker 2: it sizzle. Sometimes I was stick it in water to
Speaker 2: see what was gonna happen. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 2: where that fascination comes from. Are you? Are you fascinated
Speaker 2: with fire?
Speaker 1: Tet No, I'm not a pyromaniac, so I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't have these I don't have these problems. But now
Speaker 1: I'm worried, see I am, because you do have a
Speaker 1: lot of candles in your house.
Speaker 2: I was just reflecting.
Speaker 1: I was like, hmm, okay, so now I know what
Speaker 1: my friend has been doing during the quarantine, relaxing, keeping
Speaker 1: herself busy.
Speaker 2: Light fires.
Speaker 1: So with fire, fire is something that I feel like
Speaker 1: most people interact with, but none of us know really
Speaker 1: what it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fire is a plasma, so it's a charged gas.
Speaker 2: With fire, we'll all.
Speaker 3: Gladly sit round it and look at it. But if
Speaker 3: you were to ask someone what is it. Is it
Speaker 3: a liquid, is it a gas. If it's a gas,
Speaker 3: why can we see it? Why does it change color?
Speaker 3: Why is it orange? Why is it red? Why does
Speaker 3: it flow in that certain way? All of these questions
Speaker 3: that most people, including myself, would be like, hang on,
Speaker 3: just let me google a little bit, because it's so intriguing,
Speaker 3: and yet we we actually as a population, know so
Speaker 3: little about it.
Speaker 1: So a fire starts when a material is rapidly oxidized,
Speaker 1: so that means that it's losing electrons at a really
Speaker 1: really rapid rate, and energy is also released in the
Speaker 1: form of heat, light and other things, and then a
Speaker 1: flame is produced. And when you think about how quickly
Speaker 1: we see a flame when it comes to fire, that's
Speaker 1: how quickly those reactions that I was talking about happen.
Speaker 2: It's happened so quickly that there's really we don't visually
Speaker 2: see any time between when we light a match and
Speaker 2: when we see the flame. Right, I never thought about
Speaker 2: it that way. Usually we don't. But I have these
Speaker 2: matches and they're really cheap and there is a delay. No,
Speaker 2: I'm serious. I got them from home goods. They're really cute.
Speaker 2: They say stuff like you go girl, and you know
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Stay calm, be focused. That's exactly what's happening.
Speaker 2: There's that first strike, those materials on the tip of
Speaker 2: that match are being oxidized, and then the flame comes up. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: I never thought about that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, once that flame is produced and all these
Speaker 1: reactions are continuing to occur over and over and over again,
Speaker 1: that's the reason why that flame stays alive and it's
Speaker 1: releasing gas. That reaction is the foundation of what Fran
Speaker 1: does as a pyrotechnician.
Speaker 3: The whole basis of explosions and pyrotechnics is the faster
Speaker 3: something burns, the fraaster it produces hot gases, which means
Speaker 3: when it actually expands, that it expands so quickly that
Speaker 3: you hear a bang.
Speaker 2: So what's in a firework? What are the main ingredients?
Speaker 3: The main ingredient for most of the firework is basically
Speaker 3: gunpowder and gunpowder if you don't know, it's like what
Speaker 3: we call black powder. They're basically the same stuff, and
Speaker 3: they're a mix of charcoal, sulfur, and potassium nitrate.
Speaker 1: So from the charcoal you get carbon, and carbon acts
Speaker 1: as your fuel, and from the potassium nitrate you get oxygen.
Speaker 1: When you mix carbon and oxygen together, they're going to burn,
Speaker 1: but they burn pretty slowly. Dting the sulfur is what
Speaker 1: makes all the difference. Sulfur is the intensifier. It melts
Speaker 1: at one hundred and twenty degrees celsius.
Speaker 2: For those of y'all who don't live in celsius, that's
Speaker 2: around two hundred and fifty degrees fahrenheit lower than you'd
Speaker 2: even set your oven.
Speaker 1: And so when it starts to melt, then it starts
Speaker 1: to accept some of the oxygen that's already in this reaction,
Speaker 1: and that turns the sulfur into sulfur dioxide. Sulfur dioxide
Speaker 1: releases energy in the form of heat, and that heat
Speaker 1: will interact with the carbon and the oxygen that's already there,
Speaker 1: so that keeps that initial burning reaction going and it
Speaker 1: speeds it up. And so that's how you get the
Speaker 1: bang because all of these reactions are happening so quickly.
Speaker 3: So if you cram that black powder into a tube
Speaker 3: and you have it open at one end, if you
Speaker 3: like that tube, that that hot gas needs to go somewhere,
Speaker 3: So it comes out at the bottom of the tube
Speaker 3: and shoots it up into the air.
Speaker 2: But once it's in the air, I'm still waiting for
Speaker 2: the beautiful display. What gives fireworks their colors?
Speaker 1: I think before we get too deep into the firework
Speaker 1: color that there's some basic things that we need to
Speaker 1: establish first.
Speaker 2: All right, let's hear it.
Speaker 1: So, each element in the periodic table is made up
Speaker 1: of atoms, and atoms are made up of protons, neutrons,
Speaker 1: and electrons. The protons and neutrons are at the core,
Speaker 1: and the electrons are all just spinning around that core.
Speaker 2: So those are elements. And when you combuiny more than
Speaker 2: one element, that's a compound, and some compounds.
Speaker 1: Give off energy in the form of light when you
Speaker 1: apply heat. We talked a lot about these things in
Speaker 1: the Conda Forever episode, So you should definitely go back and.
Speaker 2: Listen to that. It was so much fun.
Speaker 1: But with fireworks, there's a different metal compound in each
Speaker 1: firework that when you add heat, gives off light with
Speaker 1: a specific color, and that's what's happening when the fireworks
Speaker 1: burst in the sky.
Speaker 3: Now, once they're up there, there's actually another part, and
Speaker 3: that part is basically where all the effects are, and
Speaker 3: in there there's more black powder. There's also things called stars.
Speaker 2: And stars are like little container for the metal compounds.
Speaker 2: So are there some preferred elements that people using fireworks?
Speaker 3: So if you use barium, then it will become green,
Speaker 3: if you use strontium, it'll become red.
Speaker 2: So that's the basics of a firework. So the charcoal,
Speaker 2: sulfur and potassium nitrate that's gonna get you up in
Speaker 2: the air, and then these other metal compounds that burn
Speaker 2: and give you different colors from that reaction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just the build up of that gas
Speaker 1: inside of this contained space that causes that huge boom,
Speaker 1: that sound that's keeping us all up.
Speaker 3: But the basics of a firework haven't actually changed since
Speaker 3: they're invented about a thousand years ago.
Speaker 2: Let's go back to six hundred to nine hundred AD.
Speaker 2: We're in China. I'm your favorite cook, and I'm just
Speaker 2: whipping it up in the kitchen. You know, I'm seizing
Speaker 2: up these chicken legs. I have some little beef tender loins.
Speaker 2: I'm getting it right. Okay, I hope I'm invited. M
Speaker 2: It depends on how you act. And you know, I'm
Speaker 2: mixing things together. I'm reaching for my saltpeter. That's potassium nitrate,
Speaker 2: which was common then? Is that in season all? I
Speaker 2: use season all everything, season all over Goya, So absolutely
Speaker 2: you know where we stand with that. Yeah. So you
Speaker 2: have your saltpeter, your charcoal, sulfur, and all these other ingredients,
Speaker 2: and you're just like, oh, this is gonna be gill
Speaker 2: to we sprinkle a little bit of this on here. Ooh,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give him a little extra spice. Unwittingly, you're
Speaker 2: making gunpowder. Okay, you're seasoning your chicken and then boom.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine nobody's gonna believe you? First of all,
Speaker 2: but I guess they must have had a recipe because
Speaker 2: they're able to recreate it. Once they figure this out,
Speaker 2: they take this mixture and they put it in bamboo shoots,
Speaker 2: and you already know. You take a bamboo shoot with
Speaker 2: basically gunpowder in it and you throw it over a fire.
Speaker 2: That's the birth of the fireworks.
Speaker 1: My friends, we ask Fran what's her theory on all
Speaker 1: these fireworks going off all the time.
Speaker 3: It's funny because firework soft off can go into two
Speaker 3: compartments in society. I would say, they can be the
Speaker 3: celebration part and they can be the anarchy part. And
Speaker 3: at the moment, I would say, in society we're sort
Speaker 3: of in both is those phases.
Speaker 2: That is very true. There's a lot going on right now.
Speaker 1: A lot of folks were not celebrating the fourth of
Speaker 1: July because not all people were free on Independence Day,
Speaker 1: and also people were celebrating the fourth of July.
Speaker 2: So sometimes the fireworks are a celebration or a way
Speaker 2: of saying, hey, we're still here, We're glad to be alive.
Speaker 2: This is a little bit of boom, a little bit
Speaker 2: of celebration for that. And then sometimes it's a little
Speaker 2: bit of anarchy, like we're still alive, but what the
Speaker 2: heck is going on?
Speaker 1: You're right, and trying to draw attention and make sure
Speaker 1: people are still paying attention, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's a great metaphor for what's going on actually and
Speaker 1: what we've been talking about so far in the show.
Speaker 1: With the firework, it takes, you know, a light to it,
Speaker 1: and then these electrons get excited and then you get
Speaker 1: this big boom. And that's the same thing. That's what's
Speaker 1: happening with people with us, with what's going on right now.
Speaker 1: There is an event that ignites all of these emotions
Speaker 1: and feelings.
Speaker 2: Everyone shifts to a hot to a different state. Yeah, response,
Speaker 2: Everyone responds to that event right exactly, and then boom.
Speaker 2: When we get back, we're going to get more into
Speaker 2: the field of pyrotechnics at large and it will blow
Speaker 2: your mind.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're back, and now we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about the field of pyrotechnics more broadly.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite things I learned when we were
Speaker 2: talking to Fran was about the small pyrotechnics that exist
Speaker 2: in our day to day that we don't even think about.
Speaker 1: And so we talked to Fran about the materials she
Speaker 1: uses in her demonstrations, and one of her favorite materials
Speaker 1: is flash cotton.
Speaker 3: Flash cotton is I'm a little bit obsessed with it
Speaker 3: because it's basically nitrocellulose.
Speaker 2: Nitrocellulose is this compound that is formed by adding nitrogen
Speaker 2: groups to cellulose.
Speaker 3: And what that means is it's just packed with oxygen,
Speaker 3: which means it burns to completion.
Speaker 2: Now you want to know what's crazy about this one.
Speaker 2: I use nitrocellulose in the lab. What do you use
Speaker 2: it for? When I ran Western blots, nitro cellulose was
Speaker 2: the membrane I used to kind of capture the proteins,
Speaker 2: so I would separate the proteins in a sample, and
Speaker 2: then when you want to image them, you got to
Speaker 2: hold them into something. You trap them on a nitrocellulose membrane.
Speaker 2: Why didn't they catch on fire? They're flammable at two
Speaker 2: hundred degrees celsius and I didn't have a spark or
Speaker 2: anything like that. Well, that's good, and I had great
Speaker 2: lab safety skills. Hello, that's why they didn't catch on fire.
Speaker 2: That's good, that's good. But I never thought of I
Speaker 2: never thought of them. I didn't know they were flashed
Speaker 2: kind that it was the same material. It definitely didn't
Speaker 2: know that what other materials are used in pyrotechnics.
Speaker 3: So hydrogen is an absolute It's a dream for developing
Speaker 3: demonstrations because it just sets on fire so easily.
Speaker 2: Worlds are pyrotechnics used.
Speaker 3: They are all around us. So like airbags, for instance.
Speaker 1: I bet you didn't think that you had pyrotechnics in
Speaker 1: your car.
Speaker 3: So in an airbag, you have a small electronic match,
Speaker 3: and once you light that match, that produces the hot gas,
Speaker 3: which then actually inflates the airbag. Yeah, when you are
Speaker 3: impacted that that will actually set off a switch which
Speaker 3: then sets off the match.
Speaker 2: The future of pyrotechnics is really wide open. What you
Speaker 2: understand the basics. So Fran told us this really interesting
Speaker 2: story of lighting a hydrogen rocket with her finger. She
Speaker 2: said she was inspired by some YouTube videos of people
Speaker 2: lighting buns and burners with their fingers, but I feel
Speaker 2: like a bunsen burner and a hydrogen rocket is pretty different. Now,
Speaker 2: this is a my ministry, so I'm gonna have tt
Speaker 2: explain how it worked.
Speaker 1: The way that she was able to do this was
Speaker 1: that she used a Vandergraft generator.
Speaker 2: We've all seen it.
Speaker 1: It's a spherical silver ball that usually people put a
Speaker 1: piece of glass around and then you'll see all these
Speaker 1: little things that look like lightning bolts jumping out and
Speaker 1: touching the glass around it.
Speaker 2: And when I used to think of what a scientist was,
Speaker 2: it was Albert Einstein touching a Vandergraft generator.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it makes it makes your hair stands, your
Speaker 1: hair stand up. Yeah, what it is. This is an
Speaker 1: electrostatic generator. And so from this electrostatic that's generated, if
Speaker 1: you touch it and then you touch something else, you know,
Speaker 1: you can shock it. Which I think we've all kind
Speaker 1: of done something like that, whether it's using a Vandergraft
Speaker 1: generator or rebinar feet on the carpet and then touching
Speaker 1: our friend.
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a pastime. That static.
Speaker 1: She can use that to make a spark. So she
Speaker 1: was able to use a Vandergraft generator and through many,
Speaker 1: many iterations, so she did a lot of research in
Speaker 1: the lab. She was able to generate a significant enough
Speaker 1: spark to light this hydrogen rocket.
Speaker 2: And I want to point out something friend is an expert. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I don't want y'all at home rubbing your feet
Speaker 2: on the carpet trying to light your gas stove. Right, Please,
Speaker 2: don't do nothing stupid. We're just here to give you
Speaker 2: the information so you could talk about it with your friends.
Speaker 2: Don't try this stuff at home. This is one of
Speaker 2: the major things that stood out to me when everybody.
Speaker 2: When I was hearing fireworks everywhere, I was like, Uh,
Speaker 2: what are the safety protocols for this? And these fireworks
Speaker 2: sound close. They sound close to my home and all
Speaker 2: these apartments around here. Something's gonna catch on fire.
Speaker 1: So we ask Fran, what are the big safety precautions
Speaker 1: that folks should be taking when they are shooting off fireworks.
Speaker 3: Distance is the biggest thing you can do to make
Speaker 3: it safe.
Speaker 2: One aspect of distance is distance from flammables.
Speaker 3: People think, oh, a flammable that's kind of but tane
Speaker 3: or light of fuel or whatever. No, it's your lawn.
Speaker 3: It's your pile of leaves that you've just swept up.
Speaker 3: It's your wooden shed that you haven't looked after for
Speaker 3: like three years. It's that type of stuff that's the
Speaker 3: things that can catch fire.
Speaker 2: So if you think about your grass it's been a
Speaker 2: really dry summer, if you have hair rain recently, maybe
Speaker 2: wet the lawn. The second aspect of distance is distance
Speaker 2: from you, and then Aside from distance, France says, we
Speaker 2: should consider the weather, and.
Speaker 3: It's quite scary as well, because especially you know in
Speaker 3: the northern hemisphere right now, you know we're going into summer,
Speaker 3: things are getting dry. All it takes is a little
Speaker 3: ember and that's it. That's an entire fire started.
Speaker 1: Fran told us that in the UK that the time
Speaker 1: of year that they're most likely to be shooting off
Speaker 1: fireworks is in November, and part of that is because
Speaker 1: it's a lot cooler and a lot wetter during that
Speaker 1: time of year. In the US, we are shooting fireworks
Speaker 1: off during the hottest, driest time of the year, which
Speaker 1: sounds like a recipe for disaster. Yes, so if you
Speaker 1: already have fireworks in your possession, how should you be
Speaker 1: storing them?
Speaker 3: So I would say keep it in a lockable, unflammable cabinet,
Speaker 3: because the most dangerous thing I would say that could
Speaker 3: happen in households is people getting hold of them that
Speaker 3: shouldn't so your kids, your neighbors kids, and so by
Speaker 3: putting it in a place that's got key, then you
Speaker 3: know that it's only you that can access them.
Speaker 2: So a minute ago, we just said distance is one
Speaker 2: of the most important things for kind of keeping you
Speaker 2: safe if you're going to light fireworks. But luckily there
Speaker 2: have been some advances in technology that can also get
Speaker 2: you a little bit of space away from that lit fuse.
Speaker 3: Fireworks nowadays, instead of you know, someone going around and
Speaker 3: just lighting them with a stick, they're all done electronically,
Speaker 3: so you can get these electronic matches, which again I
Speaker 3: quite like the science behind them. These electronic matches are well,
Speaker 3: they're just matches, but they've got a little bit of
Speaker 3: nichrome wire in and when you run electricity through the
Speaker 3: nichrome wire, it heats up, it mounts, and it burns
Speaker 3: a little bit of potented material, which when you let
Speaker 3: them off just themselves, they're basically just like a Christmas
Speaker 3: cracker type spark, but when you put that in a
Speaker 3: firework then it burns the bigger bit.
Speaker 2: But those things can also go wrong. I don't know
Speaker 2: if anybody else remembers there was a fireworks display in
Speaker 2: San Diego and instead of a thirty minute show, all
Speaker 2: those fireworks were on an automatic fuse and they all
Speaker 2: went off at the same time. Please google it. It
Speaker 2: was just one big loud bang, and there's someone took
Speaker 2: a someone was taking the video and you can see
Speaker 2: people like grabbing their partner trying to run away because
Speaker 2: they knew something was definitely wrong. Right, it was a
Speaker 2: pretty big fail.
Speaker 3: Recently, I was out in Singapore and I actually saw
Speaker 3: a firework display in inverted croma is done by drones,
Speaker 3: and it was totally different to a firework display because
Speaker 3: it's like a firework display on mute.
Speaker 2: I think that could be really cool, but I would
Speaker 2: miss the sound. I like the boom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like part of fireworks is the sound
Speaker 1: that goes along with it.
Speaker 2: But also I think it might.
Speaker 1: Be pretty cool because once you start thinking about drones
Speaker 1: and what drones can do and how they move, I mean,
Speaker 1: the possibilities are endless. You could be drawing all types
Speaker 1: of stuff with those fireworks.
Speaker 3: I think there will always be room in our lives
Speaker 3: for things that go bang, because there is something so
Speaker 3: innate that basically a bank scares us, and by scaring us,
Speaker 3: it entertains us in a really weird way.
Speaker 2: I think that's true. That's why I continue to watch
Speaker 2: horror movies. You know, we love all things scary. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't need any more political thrillers. That's happening in
Speaker 2: real time. Just turn on your news. I'm excited about
Speaker 2: the potential drones, but I'm all about the boom. I
Speaker 2: like the display.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry we couldn't give people like advice on how
Speaker 1: to stop the noise. Yeah, if you want to buy
Speaker 1: some soundproofing stuff for your apartment or for your house.
Speaker 2: We will put some links in the show notes. Maybe
Speaker 2: we'll have to tell them how to create basically a
Speaker 2: podcast studio at home, because that's what you're doing.
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: The longer we're inside, I feel like the more that
Speaker 1: they're going to be going off. Even while we've been
Speaker 1: recording this, we've heard fireworks going off in Chicago and
Speaker 1: in Maryland. So I don't know if there's an end
Speaker 1: in sight. I'm sorry, but at least you know a
Speaker 1: little bit more about how they were.
Speaker 2: Are you setting off fireworks? I want to know who's
Speaker 2: doing it. Show yourself. I'm not going to report you.
Speaker 2: I just want to know. I want to see is
Speaker 2: anybody under the sound of my voice.
Speaker 1: That's it for Lab twenty seven, but we have so
Speaker 1: much more for you to dig into on our website,
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Speaker 1: Zakiah Wattley. When I think about everything that's going on
Speaker 1: right now, the last thing I have time to do
Speaker 1: is to go to another state to buy fireworks.
Speaker 2: But they tracked. They traced most of the fireworks in
Speaker 2: New York back to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: You know, Pennsylvania has been causing a lot of trouble
Speaker 1: over the last few years.
Speaker 2: They've been dropping the ball. They gotta get it together.