1 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: What is up? Welcome to another edition of the NFL 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Fantasy Live Podcast, which man M G. Marcus Grants and 3 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: we're actually makes you have real football happening. It's amazing 4 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: we have made it through the long cold winter of summer. 5 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah I said what I said, leave me alone? Uh 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: as always joined behind the glass by producer Christina. Christina, 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: how are you? I'm great? How are you doing well? 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 1: You're excited football is back now? I'm so excited, right, 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean this is what we We spent all offseason 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: child to this, right. So, yeah, it's great you're looking 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: forward to it should be a whole lot of fun. 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: We got the Ravens of the Bears the Hall of 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Fame game in Canton, and I got joined by a guest. 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: I say, guess, but really a friend. You know we've 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: been doing for a while and it's great to see 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: her here. Cynthia Freeland. How are you. I'm so happy 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: to be here. I'm so happy that you are here. 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Um. Yeah, we were talking before the show 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: about a couple of different things, but one Um, so 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: everybody or people who listened to the show regularly know 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: that when we are recording, I would tweet out the 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: hashtag wonder Wall, which I tweeted. You tweeted at me, 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: so I responded with it. Right, And as I've been, 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, as I'm taking over the show now and 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: starting to do some new things with it, we gotta 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: find something like wonder Wall. It's great, it was, but 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: it sort of grew organically from the old show. Right 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: you gotta you know what, you gotta retire hanging in 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: the rafters. Maybe we'll have to celebrate that, right right, 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: the Ring of Honor version of that for wonder Wall. 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: We should see if Oasis will come and play at 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: the studio for us that happen. I think we get 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: one of them, one of the Gallagher brothers, like the 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: one that's not a jerk. I can't remember if it's 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: a Liam or Nol. I have no idea. I can't remember, 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: but um, but anyway, we gotta find something new, because 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: like the last one was, it was an organic thing 38 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,919 Speaker 1: that kind of grew out of our own little conversations 39 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: that became our own thing. But now that's a new show. 40 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: We gotta find something new. So we're putting it out 41 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: here to you the listeners. What I mean, what what 42 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: should we do? What should I do to kind of 43 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: give you guys a heads up that we are recording 44 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: a new podcast, so you can hit me up on 45 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: Twitter and let me know, because yeah, okay, we gonna 46 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: do something. You gotta keep it going, right we do, 47 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: and you know what it has to be, Listen, it 48 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: has to rise to the occasion of specialness that wonder 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: Wald did. So you know, maybe we can trust some 50 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: things out like take a few for you know, which 51 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: one which one? Because like I I just thought, wonder 52 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: what was sort of like the equivalent like you know 53 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: when you go buy a crispy cream and the hot 54 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: light is on, Like that was That's what the hashtag 55 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: Wonderwall meant to me. So well, that's a lot exactly 56 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: all right. Anyway, we got plenty to talk about today. 57 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Of course, as I mentioned, we got the Hall of 58 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: Fame game coming up a little bit later today. We'll 59 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: also talk with Madeline Burke, who covers the New York 60 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: Giants for Giants dot Com. She is out at camp, 61 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: so we'll get her thoughts on se Kwan and O 62 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: b J and everything going on there with Big Blue, 63 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: and of course we'll have an update on the b 64 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: s O h L chronicles because there's more. They're more 65 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: guys who are the best shape of their lives as 66 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: we get close to the start of the regular season. 67 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: But again with let's do some those huh, all right, 68 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: we will start in Seattle. Doug Baldwin expected it to 69 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: miss a couple of weeks of training camp. That's according 70 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: to Pete Carroll. Baldwin has a little bit of a 71 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: sore knee. Adam Scheffer said that Baldwin could miss the 72 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: entirety of the preseason. Now, Cynthia, this is it's a 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver corp that doesn't have a whole lot of depth. 74 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's Doug Baldwin. People are kind of big 75 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: on Tyler Lockett. But this this seems like a problem 76 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: to me. I think there's a lot of problems in Seattle. 77 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: This seems to be like yet another problem to address. 78 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: It's interesting to me because missing preseason It's been described 79 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: to me by players Steve Smith most recently see Smith 80 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: Senior most recently. Um, if you're not if you're like 81 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: not able to actually participate in regular training camp activities, 82 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: it's not fun. No one wants to do this. They're 83 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: like unhappy it's like there, it's the worst. So none 84 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: of them want to be in this situation. However, here 85 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: and here in Seattle, I'm not sure. I don't know. 86 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: This one just seems like he could be sore a 87 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I don't know. This seems like a 88 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: stay away in fantasy for me. I mean, it just 89 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 1: does like stay away, like I was looking at Baldwin. 90 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it's like a third round pick. I mean, he's 91 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: a solid, you know, fringe wide receiver one. But you know, 92 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: I think we see a signing here because I think 93 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: we might see a signing, we might see something because 94 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: there really is no there's no depth in that wide 95 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: receiver corps. There's none. I think I think we see 96 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: some I think we see some movement here, and maybe 97 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: even big movement. I'm wondering if she huge. Carol is 98 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: sort of ruining his decision to let Paul Richardson get 99 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: away right now. He should be that's great. Anyways, I'm 100 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: looking for I'm looking for some signings here because I'm 101 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: looking I'm looking through the looking through the roster right now, 102 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: and there's just there's nothing that there's drawn brown that 103 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: came over from Arizona. You know they're hoping Tyler Lockett 104 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: breaks out. I mean, Brandon Marshall's on the roster, but 105 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: you can't really expect much from him at this point 106 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: in his career. So uh, it's it's ugly and it's 107 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: so basically Russell Wilson's gonna rush for you know, you 108 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: might have to run for a thousand yards this year 109 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: for them to be successful. So we'll see what happens 110 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: with that. Over to New England, Jordan Matthews was released 111 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: or maybe he wasn't or maybe he was. Either way, 112 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: he's on iry. He's not playing this year. He said 113 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: what is called a quote significant hamstring injury, so he's 114 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: not going to play. Um, there are a lot of 115 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: questions with this wide receiver group. Kenny Britt Malcolm Mitchell 116 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: are dealing with injuries. We know Julian Edelman is suspended 117 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 1: for the first four games of the season. The Grit 118 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: Award goes to Eric Decker. Eric Decker is there now right, 119 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: which I saw this morning. You know somebody saying that 120 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: do between Tom Brady and Eric Decker, Now, do the 121 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: Patriots have the most handsome quarterback to wide receiver tandem 122 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: in the league. I don't know Jimmy Garoppolo, who are 123 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of who the forty Night. I 124 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: don't think he's good. He's a good looking but I 125 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: do so that that's one will have to put out 126 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: to the Twitter folks and see what they know. But 127 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: Eric Decker last year in Tennessee fifty four catches five 128 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: and sixty three yards and a touchdown. You know, everybody 129 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: when it comes to the Patriots, they look at it 130 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: and they say, well, you know, Tom Brady has never 131 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: had a lot of great receivers. He's always figured out 132 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: how to make it work. And you believe, as long 133 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: as Gronk is there, everything's gonna be fine. But at 134 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: some point, I know Tom has been a hero forever 135 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: and ever. But the guy is going to be forty 136 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: one really soon, yeah, like tomorrow, right exactly tomorrow years old, 137 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: and at some point, like don't we have to stop 138 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: believing in his superpowers. Eventually, eventually it all comes for everybody, 139 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: it comes to an end like this is this is 140 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: troublesome to me. I mean, look, he's made really big 141 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: heroes out of names that we haven't been super familiar with. 142 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: But you have to have some people on the field 143 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,119 Speaker 1: in order for that to happen. And it doesn't seem 144 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: clear who those receivers are going to be, you know, 145 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: other than Gronk, but who's even going to be Chris Hogan? 146 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: And okay, that's still but like that's not that's not 147 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: a that's not a real promising roster like injured injured, 148 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: significant injury old like you know, it's not a it's 149 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: not a great situation to be in. No, I completely agree, 150 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: and I was looking through it last night. I mean, 151 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: Chris Hogan obviously caught a lot of passes last year. 152 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: The other guys that that were there last year, you know, 153 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: Kenny Britt but he's hurt right now. Philip Dorsett who 154 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: came over in a trade, Um, it didn't really do 155 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: much for the Patriots last year. There's just I don't 156 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: know that I'm drafting a Patriots receiver. I'm not. I mean, 157 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: if I could get Gronk, okay, but I'm not gonna 158 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: overpay for Gronk because I'm telling you this much use 159 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: who knows, Like it doesn't seem like, you know, the 160 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: surest fire strategy to only have Gronk for four weeks well, 161 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: and you know, not that long ago there was talk 162 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: that Gronk might retire. You know the history of injuries. 163 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: I just think injury is the one that I'm scared of. 164 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: With all this use and all these targets, like you know, 165 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: he just seems like how many people are gonna put 166 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: on ground four? Okay. The other part of that is 167 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: does it change your opinion of where to draft Tom Brady? 168 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he's coming off the board, is like your seconds, 169 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: the second or third quarterback. Overall, I'm about to be 170 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm about to be a hot take artist. And it's 171 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: not it's not on purpose. It's not me. I like 172 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: people went to Michigan. I'm from Michigan. It's not an 173 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: anti tom Brady sentiment. But you know what, unless it's 174 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: a real big slide for tom Brady, I'm I'm I'm 175 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: passing over on him. For me, the risk is not 176 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: really worth the reward in terms of who are the 177 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: other people on the team, who are the skill players 178 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: that he's going to have to play with? And I 179 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: don't even know what's going on. Oh line wise, I 180 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: have yet to see. So I've been studying, Like in 181 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: my off season, I spend a lot of time measuring, oh, 182 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: line push back, how many different combinations? Where are the guards? 183 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: What is the center doing in the tackles? We've got 184 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: some new tackle situation here. I'm staying away because those 185 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: short passes that Tom Brady is absolutely known for, if 186 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: you don't have the right people fortifying your line, Uh, 187 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen either. So I'm scared. I'm scared 188 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: off of him. No, I understand, and I generally don't 189 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: get Tom Brady because I'm not drafting a quarterback early enough. 190 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: I would stream, or at least i'll wait, you know, right, 191 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: wait till the ninth, tenth round and grab a guy. 192 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: But I was never gonna be on Tom Brady anyway. 193 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: And now I'm I'm twittered with you. I think I'm 194 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: completely out on Tom. Of moving down the coast to Washington, 195 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: Chris Thompson says he doesn't expect to be fully recovered 196 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: until November. He broke his fibula last year Week eleven 197 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: against New Orleans, so November would be pretty much a 198 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: full calendar year since he broke his leg. Uh send 199 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: an interview. He's still nervous about trying to play on 200 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: it says he's not sure when he makes cuts if 201 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna take a hit. And I know for a 202 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: lot of athletes who suffer major injuries, so much of 203 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: the recovery is mental as much as it is physical. 204 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: But for a guy who did a lot and who 205 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: caused a lot of passes, who was a big part 206 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: of that offense, um, this is something I think to 207 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: pay attention to. This is absolutely something to pay attention to. 208 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: I actually have Washington as one of my sort of 209 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: under the radar teams to look forward to. Everyone's like, well, 210 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: the Eagles won the Super Bowl and Sae Kwan, Barcley 211 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: and Obey j are back, so we've got everything going 212 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: on and nothing's gonna happen anywhere Like this is a 213 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: team that could sneaky like steal a few of those 214 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: key games from other NFC teams. And by the way, 215 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: NFC is like the Weston basketball right, every everyone good 216 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: as an NFC just a f C, just a few 217 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: on the top, right, So this could be a big, 218 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: big problem maker. Especially Alex Smith's looking great and watching 219 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: talking to people on that coaching staff. Interesting stuff there. 220 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: Chris Thompson a big piece of it. This is gonna 221 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: be a huge problem if in fact he's not, you know, 222 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: mentally able to kind of. He took a lot of 223 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: hard hits that the way they use him that produces 224 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: those large hits. So that's a scary one for me. Absolutely. 225 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: I saw j Gruden does this morning, was quoted as saying, 226 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, they're going to rotate a lot of guys, 227 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: are gonna trying to get as many running backs in 228 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: as possible. I still think, you know, it's gonna be 229 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: a Darius guys and mostly Chris Thompson as long as 230 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: he's healthy and ready to go. Situation there, but you know, 231 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: I guess keep an eye out for that definitely. Um 232 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: Other Washington News, this one is good news. Nothing major here. 233 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: Josh Dockson, it appears that his shoulder injury is not 234 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: going to be serious. He went down in practice, and 235 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: according to Ian Rappaport, it's an a C joint sprain 236 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: or bruise. Dockson tweeted hashtag I'm good with the prayer 237 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: hands emojis. So it seems every everything's good, right, then 238 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: you're fine. Yeah, that's a that's that's a Twitter doctoring 239 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: number one oh one more training camp scuttle, But Adam 240 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: gay stun in my Gore looks like he did ten 241 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: years ago. Okay, look, I know I know a training 242 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: camp smoke screen when I see one. I love Frank 243 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: Gore and I am prone to making you know, Frank 244 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: Gore is going to play forever jokes. But come on, bro, 245 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: really like he did teen years ago. Come on, you 246 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: think they're hanging out like, you know, like they're aud 247 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: was like, oh, he's one of the guys. You think 248 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: Gae is hanging out with Frank Gore. They're probably the 249 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: same with the old Patrol. I think they're the same. 250 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: But people go to Miami to retire all the time. 251 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: You know, that's what happens. You're not drafting Frank Gore 252 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: unless it's like wait wait wait wait wait wait, you 253 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: are not like stop it right. I saw that yesterday 254 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: and I got just a good laugh about that. I'm 255 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm laughing at it now. That's incredible. It looks okay, Adam, 256 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: whatever you think? Fine over there and Dallas Blake Jarwin 257 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: has been called the most impressive time in the Cowboys camp. 258 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: That's Brian brought us at Cowboys dot Com. I mean, look, 259 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: they're they're kind of. I won't say they're loaded tight. 260 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: They have a lot of guys playing the tight end position. Correct, 261 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: I was at Cowboys camp. Yeah, he's impressive. They're all impressive. 262 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, I guess. The only thing I 263 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: take away from it is we don't know who we know. 264 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: You know, Alan Herns is gonna get the ball. Yes, 265 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: I guess Michael Gallo is probably gonna get the ball. 266 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: Where Here's what I saw. Okay, so you've got all 267 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: their wide receivers have been lining up everywhere we saw 268 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: Alan Herns. There was like fifty eight percent of the 269 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: time in the slot in Jacksonville, so everyone's like up 270 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: slot receiver. Maybe he's getting the Witten targets blobby blue Bloh. 271 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: What's really gonna happen in this situation is they're all 272 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: going to rotate until they find whatever makes Dak most comfortable. Right, Like, 273 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a favorite receiver. There was no like 274 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: one he targeted more than the other. The person he 275 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: targeted most was Zeke. So so in reality, it's going 276 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: to be this rotation. I saw Hern's lined up out look, 277 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: it's training camp. It doesn't need anything at all. But 278 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: he was running those routes and in pairings where he 279 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: wasn't that cut the slot formation person, right, So it's 280 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a I wouldn't think it's 281 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: let's let's watch the third game of preseason and then 282 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: maybe we'll have like a teeny weeny bit more of 283 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: an idea of who that number one tight ended. No 284 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: one's taking those Witten snaps, no one. No one's getting 285 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: those targets. No, not even a little bit. Stay away, 286 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: stay far away. Uh and uh last bit of training camp, Scot, 287 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: But Joe Flacco was having quote far and away the 288 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: best camp of his career. Um. The only thing I 289 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: have to say about this is that this is the 290 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: definitive answer to the question is it possible to be 291 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: more elite? I wish we were on video because I 292 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: look on your face was priceless. When I said that. 293 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna spend a lot of time. 294 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about the Hall of Fame 295 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: game later in the show. Um, you know, Flacco obviously 296 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: was not great last year. He's got Lamar Jackson kind 297 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: of pushing him in camp. Uh. You know, I don't 298 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: know what this means other than it's just guys time. 299 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely love the lazy narrative of it's a career year 300 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: or just getting pushed by your own grinder rooms. You know, 301 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: Alex Smith, last year we heard this whole thing blah blah, 302 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, like Padrick Mahomes gonna it's it's and look 303 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: it actually kind of worked out great. Like they're both 304 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: starting now, so good for them. But I don't think 305 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: that's going to be the case in the Lamar Jackson 306 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. They have completely different styles. Everything's completly different. 307 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: I love like the l it's a contract here, He's 308 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: going to be great. Like, okay, lazy narrative alert, Okay, 309 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: good for you. I want Lamar Jackson to be a starter, 310 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: so I want him to one. I wanted to be 311 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: a starter, and too, I wanted them to actually create 312 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: the offense to suit him, because you know, when you 313 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: have Joe Flacco is one of the tallest quarterbacks, like 314 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: in the past fifteen years, it's like only Ryan Mallett 315 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: tarer than him. Random fact that I know, um and 316 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: and ultimately they have to Joe Flacco is not doing 317 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: what Lamar Lamar jack is could do anything. He's awesome 318 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's banging the table for I want is a cheek. 319 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: That's it's pretty much all the news that you need 320 00:15:49,160 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: to know, all right, So we of course, you know 321 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: Cynthia is here in the studio, what it's doing the 322 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: podcast today, and so of course don't you here, and 323 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: we got to talk some game theory, right So if 324 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: you haven't watched, go to NFL dot com. Cynthia has 325 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: a series of game theory videos where she's talking about 326 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: some of the changes in the offenses this year and 327 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: what the expectations were. So I picked out four of 328 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: them that I think are interesting to talk about. The 329 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: first one the Vikings, who were fantastic last year. I 330 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: think when when you look at it, and in the 331 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: fact that case Keenom had to take over at the 332 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: quarterback spot, I think they exceeded expectations. No one, no 333 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: one expected case Keendom to be that great. Everybody thought 334 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: stuff on Diggs and Adam feeling with maybe Matt Harmon 335 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: he might be the only one, but Harmon. So it's cool. 336 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: Even though even if old takes exposed, it's calling him 337 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: out from stuff he tweeted like five years ago. We 338 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: won't hear that we won't talk about that. Listen, that's 339 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: how you know you. Matt Takes exposed, cares, Mama Harmon 340 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: dropped the mic. You're there. You made it, Mama, I 341 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: made it exactly. But obviously a change at quarterback that 342 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: was the big headlining move for this group. Kirk Cousins 343 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: comes over from Washington and joins this offense. So I 344 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: mean obviously that means that they're going to be that 345 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: much better. Right, So two things, well three really. The 346 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: first thing is has there ever been a quarterback with 347 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: this type of expectation. I mean, they're like one or 348 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: two plays away from, you know, almost making us like 349 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm come on and if the championship like anyway, So 350 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: that's a lot of expectations. It's going to be really hard. 351 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: And you know what that other guy in the green 352 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: outfit that you know, the green uniforms like, he's coming 353 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: back to. Yeah, that guy's coming back to and by 354 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: the way, he's coming for your He's gonna exceed your contract. 355 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: And I think that gets done before the season starts, 356 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: and that number is just going to be you thought 357 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins guarantee as bananas. I'm thinking Aaron Rodgers I 358 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: think worth it, but they might just make him Emperor Wisconsin. Right. 359 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: There you go, here's the team. There you go. But 360 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: look Kirk Cousins. When you look at Kirk Cousins, he's 361 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: very solid. I think slightly better than average player. Now 362 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: that's I'm gonna get in trouble for he has an 363 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: upgrading skill players with from what he did Washington last 364 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: year wasn't fair as an assessment of Kirk Cousins because 365 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: everyone was hurt that what twenty six people on I 366 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: are between offense and defense, but everyone was hurt. They 367 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: didn't have any You couldn't really see what he did. 368 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: You have to take like a three year sample of 369 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, and the thing that really blatantly stands out 370 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: to me red zone turnovers. Huge problem, huge problem. That's 371 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: the area where he hasn't been able to finish. And 372 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: the thing that's going to help him on the Vikings 373 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: with this is their defense is so good and solid 374 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: that it could, you know, mitigate the potential problems that 375 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: are caused by those red zone turnovers. But that's really 376 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: the thing that with Kirk Cousins is the cause for 377 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: alarm for me. So you talk about that defense too, 378 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: and that is a big part of it. Right, Look, 379 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter is super underrated. He got he's a deal. 380 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: They overpaid for Kirk Cousins and they got to balances out. 381 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: But I do wonder, and maybe I'm over thinking this 382 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: a little bit. You do have a he has a 383 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: much better defense, right that much that in theory leads 384 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: him or leaves their offense with shorter fields like they're 385 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: not having necessarily comes back Cooks back. I mean, is 386 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: it is it fair to say that, you know, maybe 387 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: he's not out there putting up yards because because they 388 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: don't have to. Yeah, Look, Dalvin Cook, that's a huge 389 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: difference maker. Look, Jerick McKinnon was great last season for them, 390 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: and they're gonna use Dalvin Cook. That's going to be 391 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: your guy. That's your fantasy target for this team by far, 392 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: for in terms of running backs obviously, But when it 393 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: comes to Kirk Cousins, I don't think he I think 394 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: he's fallen out and looking at obviously, Look it's preseason rankings. 395 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: Don't talk about my projections yet, because you know what, 396 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: there's ninety people on each roster. He even knows who's playing. 397 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: But Kirk Cousins is out of my top fifteen, probably 398 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: because of in part because of their defense, and also 399 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: in part because I think the Dalvin Cook it's not 400 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: gonna be Leonard four net style, but it's gonna be 401 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook and then spreading around to Theeling and Diggs. 402 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: But I don't know if Diggs will have that thousand years. 403 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: Everyone's all mad about Dig's newt those in New York season. Okay, 404 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't had to, so that's kind of and you 405 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: got rude off there too, So I don't know, he's wow, Okay, 406 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: so all right, there you go. Interesting. Okay, so now 407 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: you talking about quarterbacks with expectations, right San Francisco. I 408 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: mean Jimmy Garoppolo, I mean, aside from the fact that 409 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: he is, you know, young, talented, rich, handsome living in 410 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. Um, you know, the next thing he's 411 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: gonna know, he's gonna like go on Facebook next pretty much, right, Pioneer. 412 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: He well, apparently he can't even lose games. I mean 413 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: he's been and he's that is undefeated on the field 414 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: as a forty Niner starter. They even won the coin 415 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: flip with the Raiders in the off season. Jimmy Garoppolo 416 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: can do no wrong in San Francisco, But there's talking 417 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: have have we built this up too much? Have we 418 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: put too much? Yes? Look outside the numbers. Deep passing 419 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: h not a good area. They don't have They haven't 420 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: solved the deep passing game. Truth two touchdowns all five 421 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: of his interceptions last season deep passing. Who have they 422 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: addressed it with Goodwin? I mean, is that guy in theory. 423 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: But you got to create the chemistry. You've got to 424 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: create the right opportunities. Even in trading camp, were there 425 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: on two on Monday? What day was that Tuesday? Whatever? 426 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: I was there on Tuesday, and you just didn't see 427 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: a lot of plays where that was even something that happened. 428 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: Nowt tight ends there. That's going to be a good 429 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: streamer for you, a gey, yeah, but it could also 430 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: be selic. They were both getting the same kind of looks. 431 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: There was not one that it wasn't a clear like 432 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: one in two situations. Their old line looks great. They 433 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: do look really good. McGlinchey is fitting right in. He's 434 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 1: going to be the starter. It's the right tackle. Um 435 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: their draft pick number nine overall. Anyways, there, Garoppolo is 436 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to develop that deep game. But everything else 437 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: he's very accurate, exacuate under pressure, accurate not under pressure, 438 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: which by the way, is also important turned out. Um, 439 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: and he has a lot of he has a lot 440 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: of like what they need right, Like he commands the 441 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: attention of like everyone that they work really hard for him. 442 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: Obviously that that's kind of a dumb thing to say, 443 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: because but I'm gonna tell you, after going and watching, 444 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: you can see the when when you really say, like 445 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: if you're lucky enough to go to training camp, which 446 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: by the way, like most of these teams, it's it's 447 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: you don't have to pay, you just have to show up, right, 448 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: So it's really cool. You can see, like, especially if 449 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: you go to a couple of them, you can see 450 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: who like people gravitating towards and absolutely absolutely him. Um, 451 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned the tight ends. They're like if there's anything, 452 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: if there's something worse than a running back committee, it 453 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: might be a tight end committee. It's true. And by 454 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: the way, Jerick McKinnon, I was watching Jerick McKinnon do 455 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: pass pro drills on the bag. I don't ever want 456 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: Jerick McKinnon to hit me now. I don't want any 457 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: of them to hit me. But I was surprised because 458 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: he's not like, you know, he's not like leve Bell, 459 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: because you're like, well, leve Bell, are you a tight 460 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: end running back? Right? No, this guy is like you know, 461 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: he's he boom ouch. So Jack mckindon really impressed me. Obviously, 462 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: the outside zone scheme that Kyle Shanahan's don for. He 463 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: super great fit there. That's a great target for fantacy. 464 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: I think everyone's on him, and I don't think that's 465 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: like any sort of surprise. But I will say from 466 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: my one day sample size, which is obviously a huge 467 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: and important sample size, I think that Garoppolo was talking 468 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: to Kittle more. Now does that mean anything? Probably not. 469 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: But these are the things I don't like, like real 470 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. I like like little tiny like fantasy nuggets. 471 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: Like I knew that it was gonna be kittled because 472 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: I saw him talking him and training camp more than 473 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: the other one. He and Jimmy Garoppolo were at Subway 474 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: after practice together. Obviously it means something. Yeah, I feel 475 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: like forty Niners right now? Are they are your favorite 476 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: fantasy analysts favorite offense? Like they are the I was 477 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: saying in February and March, they were kind of a 478 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: sleeper offense, Like not anymore because we talked about them 479 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: so much, but they're like they're the ones that everybody's 480 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: like sort of picking Cloppolo or McKinnon or Kittle or Goodwin. 481 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: You know, like everybody's sort of like picking hearts from 482 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: this offense that they really like to to pick off 483 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: take off this year, I think. I also think that 484 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: the interesting part about them is that I think we underestimate, 485 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: like they have a the Rams are in their division. 486 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm look, the Cardinals aren't going to in my opinion, 487 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: likely to go to the playoffs. But in the Seahawks, 488 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: obviously we don't even know what's going on with them, 489 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: but they play in like a hard They have a 490 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: decently hard schedule. I mean that was fourth place schedule, 491 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: so it's not as hard as it have been, right, 492 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: But but ultimately, like I think they'll need this offense 493 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: to be high octane because they have a bunch of 494 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: first rounders on their defense, but it's been We've yet 495 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: to see them really be first rounders. So when your 496 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: defense has some question marks, and I do think their 497 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: defense we better Richard Herman looked great a killer with 498 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: Spoon's kind of my favorite corner that like nobody talks about, 499 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: and and they do. Look they're coming together really nicely. 500 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: But when your defense is a little more susceptible than 501 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: you've got Garoppolo going. So I'm kind of in it 502 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: with other fantasy analysts. We we talked a little bit 503 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: about the Cowboys earlier, but this offense, it's it is 504 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: night and day from last year. You know, Bez has gone, 505 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: Jason Witten is gone, you know, the offensive line is not. 506 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: It just doesn't. It doesn't feel like it was like 507 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. There's Zeke and and then 508 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: nothing else. So here's here's what I noticed. There were 509 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: a lot of times last season where some of the 510 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: indicators for a quarterback trying to get the ball to 511 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: someone too much is like basically it's all in the 512 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: game therey, but ultimately there are some indicators that Dak 513 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: was potentially trying to push the ball the dead in 514 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: situations where maybe a checkdown would have been a way 515 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 1: to move the move the chains. Then you have Witten, 516 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: who his yards after contact, so catch and after, you know, 517 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: I I the way I kind of look at it 518 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: is like, so if you are decked with the catch, 519 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: but like what if you catch and then you run 520 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: and then you're kind of running back and then you 521 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: get text. I'm blending both of those. They're nowhere near 522 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: what they had been in the previous three seasons, like 523 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: significant decrease. And then obviously you know, Zeke was missing 524 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 1: or it was confusing to me Zeke because of all 525 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: of this. Zeke is absolutely my number one PPR fantasy 526 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: running back and I had to go back and like 527 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: after looking to see, Okay, how are they using where 528 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: they lining them up, what's going on, and like kind 529 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: of redoing what they're going to be using him for. 530 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: It's going to be Zeke have you know, a big 531 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: uptick in catches and that will make that will make 532 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: Dak more efficient because they got to get Dak doing 533 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: the things that Dak does well and like outside the numbers, 534 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: pushing past this to Cole Beasley, not not a thing, 535 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: not a thing. Yeah, you know, so last year I 536 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: was one of the people, Yeah, there's a chorus of 537 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: us trying to say that you know, that would be 538 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: okay without the Zeke. When Zeke was going to be suspended, 539 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: that somehow that would would keep things together, everything be fine. Um, 540 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: we were forced to kind of shut up a little 541 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: bit at some point because it's just well you also 542 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: but you have you can't like, I mean, look like kindsight. Right. 543 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: You also thought you were getting like days like we 544 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: had seen days with Tony Romo DZ right, so like 545 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: we're getting old days and not old DEAs y old exactly. Yeah, 546 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,239 Speaker 1: so I don't I don't think you're like wrong, right, 547 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: but it's true we were. We were all pretty wrong. 548 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: But that old line though, Tyron Smith coming back homly, 549 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: that's a line. I saw him posing with a picture 550 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: for a picture with a tiger, and I wasn't sure 551 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: which one I was more frightened of. I I took 552 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: a picture with a couple of them and then I like, 553 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: won't post it because I look like a like a 554 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: doll and I'm not sure like I'm not, I look 555 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: like I'm like like a kid sister rag doll. Like 556 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: they're just so much bigger than me. When you were 557 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: walking among giants that we go gathers, that's like like 558 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: like you know your iPhone, you like size of upright, 559 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: like big time? Uh well, speaking of giants, there's the 560 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: Giants offense, and that's what we call sea folks exactly 561 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: like that. That's why I make the medium sized bucks. Anyway, 562 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: I have I have kind of gotten excited about this offense. 563 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: You know, this time last year, like you know, I 564 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: felt like it was kind of O. B J. Maybe 565 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd and not much else. Like this year, I 566 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: feel like there's more hope and we know, you know, 567 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: we know Beckham's back, We've seen what Shepherd can do, 568 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: having Ingram played well, and then there's Sae. I mean 569 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: there's optimism. There's optimism around this offense now is special. 570 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: Every single person you talk to is not like he's 571 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: really good, he's a special player. They're like, no, no, 572 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: you've got to meet this guy's gonna change your life, 573 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: like you know, like it's like he touched you and 574 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: you turn to gold. Like he's got the Midas tatic. 575 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: There's something about sake One that like beyond you know, 576 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: obviously that's not going to help you in fantasy, knowing 577 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: that he's a really great person, but they all are 578 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: like obsessed with every every scout in their Giants, every 579 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: one of them. You got to meet him. He's so wonderful. 580 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna like it's just incredible. So that's cool. From 581 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: like a note standpoint, right, um, I'm just very very 582 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: very excited to see if we have some like let's 583 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: give Eli Manning a little help, right, Like, let's not 584 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: let him get crushed or make him throw and like 585 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: if you look at his time to throw, and then 586 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 1: you look at like how far the old line got 587 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: pushed back last season. So let's just say an average team, 588 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: let's say from So, let's say you take two seconds 589 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: to throw the ball, right, that's a give or take. 590 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: That's a good enough estimate. Right, Let's say in that 591 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: two seconds, an average team, So the very middle NFL 592 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: team gets pushed back about two yards on a passing down. Okay, 593 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 1: Giants four, that's double, Like that's insane. Okay, Cowboys when 594 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: they were healthy, not even half You're like, okay, got it. 595 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: That's a big difference. So I like to stand here 596 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: and that right right, one of the Giants went out 597 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: and they got will her Nandez, the guard from from you, 598 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people are big fans 599 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: of will her Nandez, and I think this is a 600 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: big part of it. The other part that I'm curious 601 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: about with the Giants, and I don't know how you 602 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: fix this is Eli's arm strength has very visibly declined 603 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. I mean, do we 604 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: even know? Like, let's be honest, do you even know though, 605 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: because like you talk about people being spooked if you 606 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: see something and you have no space, Like, are you 607 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: even gonna show me your arm strength or not? Right? 608 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: Do we do we even know? I mean, look, I 609 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: don't know. And obviously when you have Odell Beckham Jr. 610 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: The thing that he maybe does better than anyway is 611 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: the catch and run like nobody breaks for like, hey, 612 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: you's a ten yard I guess technically intermediate packifty and 613 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: two touchdowns somehow, Because yeah, I don't know, and maybe 614 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: and maybe you're right, maybe maybe it hasn't. I'd like to, 615 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: you know, you Eli's face as a barometer, but he 616 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: always kind of has the same book on his face. 617 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: I try to do it, No, I can't keep it serious. 618 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: But here's here's the thing that I noticed about him, 619 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: And this is to me an early barometer. So like 620 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm not drafting him in any of my fantasy leagues, 621 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: but if you're considering Eli as as any sort of streamer. 622 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: Look at the difference in third on third down. So 623 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: if no quarterback has a bigger erosion of completion percentage 624 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 1: or passer rating or adjusted passer rating, don't like anyone 625 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: adjusting as hard because you've got to know what they're 626 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: adjusting for. So ultimately, for me, it's I adjusted based 627 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: on their old line. So nobody had a bigger decline 628 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: in the past two seasons than Eliment. Nobody, not even 629 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: j Cutler, who had a pretty big decline. Right, So 630 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: nobody had a bigger decline on third down. Now we're 631 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: gonna see if that changes, because you have to remember 632 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: third downs a combination of what happens on first and 633 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: second down. So if you have Stake Kwan and he's 634 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: able to get you at least four yards on first down, 635 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: or if you're getting in these optimal third down situations, 636 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: then you're you're passer rating will go up just because 637 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: the defense doesn't know what you're gonna do. You have 638 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: to keep them honest. So for me, that will be 639 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: the early barometer on like kind of what's going on 640 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: there and how they're ultimately gonna fair for the rest 641 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: of the season. Right, they'll get better. I think I 642 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: don't even know if I think game I don't know 643 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: who's Game one and game two for them. Let's look. Yeah, 644 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: but like ultimately, like I think that they'll they'll get well, 645 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: we'll have a clearer picture of who they are going 646 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: to be as a team. They're going to be like 647 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots. They're not going to tell as much of September, 648 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: but then like once we get to October November, we're 649 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: gonna know a lot more about them. Well, we're gonna 650 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: find out kind of quick because they open the season 651 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: at home against the Jaguars and that good luck with that. 652 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: And in game week two they are on the road 653 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: in Dallas, So okay, well, I mean that's will be interesting. 654 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean, just looking at the schedule right their first game, 655 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: so week one is the week one Okay, that's a 656 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: really tough that's a tough one. The Cowboys defense, you know, 657 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: we'll see run defense, especially if they haven't figured that out. 658 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: By the way, they're thinking fantasy air for people who 659 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: because I think we're avid football fans right now, what 660 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: I heard, who knows if it's true. I Shaan Lee 661 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: is going to be moved over to the will interesting 662 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: so that they can get draft their draft pick whose 663 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: name is at the tip of my t thank you, 664 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,239 Speaker 1: Layton Vanderish. I always think of the girl from um 665 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: uh with the in New York, come on gossip whatever. 666 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: So I was, yeah, I couldn't think we're gonna name 667 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: like all the c W shows and should um and 668 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: then so and then switch that over so that he's 669 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: the mic. But Sean Lee will still be calling anyway, 670 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: so they're gonna switch it over so that they can 671 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: try to get Jalen Smith to Russia. Yeah, so that's 672 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: who Maybe that's the idea. Who knows if it's true 673 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: or not, well, but if it happens. But the Giants, 674 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: the Giants play some tough defenses early. They got the 675 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: Jaguars week one, yep, the Texans you know with J. J. 676 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: Watt back and now Merciless. That's three, the Saints in 677 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: week four, the Panthers in week five, the Eagles in 678 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: week six. I mean they're facing some really solid that 679 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: I mean not for the Giants, so so I mean, 680 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: good luck with that, guys, good luck with that anyway. 681 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: If you want to see more of these, you can 682 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: go on NFL dot com. And look up the game 683 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: theory videos with Cynthia Freeland. But speaking of the Giants, 684 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: let's go to the phone. Joining us now is Madeleine Burke. 685 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: You can find her doing her work there at Giants 686 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: dot Com. You can find her onto the Internet as well. 687 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: For you who pet she's also doing stuff the Crossover, 688 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: so you can check out some of her basketball stuff there. 689 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: And for you amateur meteorologists, she occasionally provides weather reports 690 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: on Twitter as well as if she's out there at 691 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: Giants Cap, Madeline, how are you doing fantastic? Thanks? All right, 692 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: So when we talk about the Giants, especially offensively, right now, 693 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: everything kind of starts, I think with with se Kwon Barkley. 694 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what, what are your initial impressions of Sa Kuan. Yeah, 695 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: he's definitely making some noise. I mean, being the number 696 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: two overall pick in the draft, you've got some high 697 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: expectations and he has met and really exceeded a lot 698 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: of those so far in training camp. I mean, this 699 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: kid looks really good, he looks really sharp. He's you know, 700 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: off the field, he's a really great Guy's a good kid. 701 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: He's got a good head on his shoulders. Um really 702 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: great with the fans and the media. But on the field, 703 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: I mean, not only is he a beast, you know, 704 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: he runs like a truck. He's got really impressive jukes. 705 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: The other day at training camp, he kind of broke 706 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: the ankles of the veteran William Gay out there and 707 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: everyone was, you know, ooing and aweing. And you know, 708 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: he's also got really great hands. I have not yet 709 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: seen him drop a pass. He's been catching a lot 710 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: of passes in the flat and a couple of you know, 711 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: nice little routes that he's been running as well. So 712 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: expect to see some versatility from se Kuan in the 713 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 1: offense and this Giant's offense. But so far, all good 714 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: things for the rookie. Well, the Giants also brought in 715 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart, the veteran who when you had a relationship 716 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: with generalmanager Dave Gentleman from their time in Carolina together. 717 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: Any idea of what of what his role will be 718 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: and is there a legit Week one competition between him 719 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: and Sai kuon right now? You know, I think both 720 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: of those guys are getting first team reps right now. 721 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart, obviously you look at and you say he's 722 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: a veteran guy in this room, and you know he's 723 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: kind of gonna have a little bit of leadership with 724 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: sa Kwan Barkley and you know Wayne Goldman going into 725 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: his second year. But Jonathan Stewart has still got it 726 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: as well, and you know we've seen a lot of 727 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: impressive place from him. Um, again, it's still early in camp, 728 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: for only a couple of weeks in them. We haven't 729 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: seen a preseason game just yet. I think that is 730 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: when we're going to start to get to know who's 731 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: going to be getting what kind of reps when the 732 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: season starts, because again, this is a little bit of 733 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: a controlled environment. You know, you're going against your own guys. 734 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: You're not tackling to the ground, so everyone kind of 735 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: everyone looks at their best when they're playing against their teammates. 736 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean, there have been a couple of moments where 737 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: there have been some tackles that got a little bit 738 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: of aggress or some hits that got a little bit away, 739 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: but but for the most part, it's um, you know, 740 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: guys are looking and so far and then there's a 741 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: lot to be determined, and I think that will be 742 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: determined in the upcoming preseason games. Well, we know that 743 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. Is gonna get plenty of reps. That's 744 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, not for dispute. And after the injury, according 745 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: to what we have seen on social media and the like, 746 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: he looks like he's healthy again. Right, He's you know, 747 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: he's dancing, He's doing all that kind of stuff like 748 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: we're used to seeing up More importantly, though, he's moving 749 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: all over the formation and it seems as though this 750 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: is is this kind of the new wave with Pat Sherman. 751 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: I know he's talked about positionless football. Is this is 752 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: this kind of what we can expect from their receivers. Yeah, Well, 753 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: to start, I mean Odell Beckham Jr. If you see 754 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,959 Speaker 1: him out there, it's easy to forget that he had 755 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 1: an injury to begin with, especially a lower body injury, 756 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: because of the way that he moves in the ease 757 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: with which it looks like we're seeing vintage Odell Beckham. 758 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, Pat Sherman's positionless offense is in full effect. 759 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean I talked with wide receivers coach Type Tolbert 760 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: the other day and he mentioned, you know, when he 761 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: first went to install the offense, he installed it as 762 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: a whole before telling receivers what position and they would play. 763 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: So he wanted all of the receivers in the group 764 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: to understand the concept as a whole before focusing in 765 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: on Okay, i'm X, i'm Z, i'm s. Because then 766 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: they can move around and they understand the entirety of 767 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: the concept as opposed to just from one vantage point. 768 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: And I think you've seen that in effect too so 769 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: far in training camp. We see you know, Odell in 770 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: this slot. You see Shephard on the outside, but you want, 771 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, Sherman wants these guys to be able to 772 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: move around because it's also going to create some unique 773 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: looks for defense. If you see, you know, a guy 774 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: lined up in a certain position, it doesn't necessarily mean 775 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: what you think it does, because these guys are going 776 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: to be able to play wherever you put them, whether 777 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: it's in the receivers, whether it's the tight end. I 778 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: think that kind of translates throughout the team. Talking to 779 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 1: Madeline Burke, who covers the New York Giants, and Evan 780 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: Ingram is technically a tight end, but he's he sort 781 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: of plays and it's built a little bit like a 782 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver. I mean, how how does he slide and 783 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: what are the expectations for him this year? Yeah? Well, 784 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned the receiver. He was the ali 785 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: top target towards the end of last year. I mean, 786 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: he had sixty four receptions, seven under twenty two yards 787 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: and six touchdowns as a rookie. A lot of that 788 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: too due to the depleted receiving cores last season. But 789 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: you know this year, he's also improving as a blocker 790 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: and he's kind of blosoming into a three down tight end. 791 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: And you know London Wells, the tight ends coach mentioned. 792 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: You know, he's he's done a nice job understanding the 793 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: scheme and the details within this scheme. So they can 794 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: use him as a receiver but also as a blocker, 795 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: and they can you know, move Ingram outside or put 796 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: him in this plot and have a two tight end 797 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: look and get that you know, unpredictability as we mentioned 798 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: that verse fatility against the defense. So they can go 799 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: eleven personnel, twelve personnel, twenty two personnel, a lot of 800 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: different looks that they can do because they've gotta have 801 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: an Ingram. They've got Rhett Ellison, who's kind of been 802 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: looked at more as a short yardage guy or more 803 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: of a blocking tight end, but he can also be 804 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: used in the passing game and so creating these creative, 805 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: unique looks that will elevate the run game. The past games, 806 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: more explosive plays this offense, Who's going to be a 807 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 1: lot of variety from what we've seen so far in camp. 808 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 1: You know, I jokingly sled last year that the the 809 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: Giants might have the dancingest wide receiver corps in the league. 810 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like, as a side, are 811 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: they do they have any celebrations and planning that the 812 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: Steelers were so good. I feel like the Giants have 813 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 1: to like step their game up with the celebration. The 814 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: celebration effect, Well, they got to get in the end zone. 815 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: Once they do, which I'm sure they will quite a 816 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: few times this season. Once they do, I would not 817 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: be surprised if the celebrations were on point. I mean, 818 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: these guys are out here in camp dancing. I just 819 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, put up a video today of Jack Rabbit 820 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: and Boobie Miles or Curtis Riley is his actual name, 821 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: but he goes by three Miles dancing out there, and 822 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: they're having a lot of fun. And they're obviously dvs, 823 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: but you know the receivers that you know, Dell has 824 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: been dancing all summer, and I wouldn't be surprised if 825 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: we saw a little bit more swag in the end 826 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: zone this season. Well, I asked about Eli Manning. Obviously, 827 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: you know, the guy who's been there forever. There are 828 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: certainly questions about his arm strength and what he has left. 829 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: How have you looked in camp? Eli Manning has looked great, 830 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: and you know, I think it's interesting he's thirty seven 831 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: years old and a lot of people point to that, 832 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: but you know, so you know, he's in the same 833 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: draft class as Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers and those 834 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: guys are still going strong as well. And you know, 835 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: he's consistently performed well through camp and Pat Schermer has 836 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: definitely been praising him and practice sessions that you know, 837 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 1: they've been able to get a lot of different lips, 838 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: combinations and concepts out there as well. And Schremer kind 839 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: of calls it a mental gymnastics for the quarterbacks. Eli 840 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: Manning and of course David this Web the third overall, 841 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: our third round picks from a couple of years ago, 842 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: who's likely to be the backup quarterback this season. Um, 843 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: they've both done a nice job of kind of knowing 844 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: whether they were blocked properly or if there was you know, 845 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: an extra guy, or making the adjustments necessary to fix 846 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: the problem, and you know, making some nice plays and 847 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: some nice passes. And again, you know behind this new 848 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: look offensive line is going to be you know a 849 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: little bit a little bit of an easier run for 850 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: Eli Manning had. Imagine last season he had only what 851 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: two point six seconds on average to get rid of 852 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: the ball, which is not a lot of time when 853 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 1: you think about it. No, absolutely all right, So, madam, 854 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: is something I like to do with all my guests, Uh, 855 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 1: just to have a little bit of fun. Anything in 856 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: pop culture, movies, books, TV, whatever that that has caught 857 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: your fancy, something that you want that you want to 858 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: tell the folks about out there? Hello, can you hear me? Sorry? 859 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: I think I accidentally put you on super fund? What? 860 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: What what did you ask? I think? I was like, 861 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 1: So I like to ask all my guests, is there 862 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: a what what has what has hit you in in 863 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: pop culture? Something recent? You know, TVs, movies, What have 864 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: you that that you want to you want to share 865 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: with the folks out there. Oh gosh, well, there's been 866 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, a lot going on. I think I'm really 867 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: into documentaries lately. Um, so I'm not sure that counts 868 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: as popcorn. There have been really great documentaries coming out recently. 869 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: There's you know, the zen Diaries of Gary Shandling that 870 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: you know has given an insight into a really gendery comedian, 871 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: or the Mr. Rogers documentary. Um. And then what I'm 872 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: looking forward to checking out two is Three Identical Strangers. 873 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: Have you seen the promost for that? It's acts that 874 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: were separated at birth and then found each other. Like, 875 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: what a fascinating story. I mean, we're obviously in the 876 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: business storytelling, and you know, whether it's sports or life 877 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: or television, like, there are so many incredible stories to 878 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: be told, and these documentaries are pretty um, pretty solid. Absolutely. 879 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: And before I let you go out, you are an 880 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: Arizona State alum. So I've got to ask you are 881 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: so hard university? Are you? Are you a Herm Edwards believer? 882 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 1: Can I plead the fifth? I mean I I with 883 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: all due respect, Herm Edwards is a legend, but in 884 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: one of his first press conferences, he asked a reporter what, um, 885 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: what outlet he was from, and the reporter said, Devil's Digest, 886 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 1: as you, of course is the Sun Devils. The Devil's 887 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: Digest is the thing, and her ed words got a 888 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: bit taken off guard and said, I'm a Catholic. I 889 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: don't know if I can talk to you. I'm not 890 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: sure he knows is the team mascot, but hopefully he 891 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: does at this point, um, and hopefully we'll see some 892 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 1: good things from Arizona State University. And if not, that 893 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 1: look as as a Trojan, I will still I will 894 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: still throw out the pitchfork regardless, because you gotta re 895 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: you gotta rep the Sun Devil's proudly. Hey, I understand 896 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: because they Trojan. I'm done with you winning every week 897 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: except the week you guys play us. So yeah, yeah, yeah, 898 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: of course. Madeline Burke appreciate the time, good stuff as always, 899 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: enjoy camp and we'll be looking for you on the internet. 900 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: Awesome sounds great, Thanks so much, Marcus. Thanks to Madeline 901 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: Burke for stopping bod. You can check her out on 902 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: Twitter at Madeline Burke goll see her work at giants 903 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: dot com. But in the meantime, we talked about the 904 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 1: start of the show. We've got actual live football dudes 905 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,760 Speaker 1: in helmets and pads going at one another in Canton, Ohio. 906 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: It is a Hall of Fame game, the Rave versus 907 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: the Bears. And just a few things on what to 908 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: look out for. What what are you keeping an eye 909 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 1: on in this game to night. Well, look, we're obviously 910 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: gonna learn everything we need to know for the season 911 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: and have perfect fantasy projections based on anything that happens 912 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: game one of preseason. So I'm really looking at it's 913 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: kind of like the both that both teams have short 914 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: of the same message for me on this one, and 915 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,959 Speaker 1: that's like, what's the past catching so you know, wide 916 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: receipts and tight ends here and running back opportunities, and 917 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: then also like what's going on with their old lines? 918 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: That's the only thing. So from preseason and training camp 919 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: and these preseason games, the thing I get the most 920 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 1: information from happens to be combinations of alignment and defensive 921 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: fronts because those things and where they stand and where 922 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 1: they line up, those things do map to the regular 923 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: season a lot more closely than some of the other 924 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,879 Speaker 1: stuff that we're looking at. Right, So if you start 925 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: on the bear side. So the Bears a line two 926 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: years ago like the Jordan Howard season right there, interior 927 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: was really strong. So Ryan pace comes from the Saints. 928 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 1: The Saints built from the inside out, dues a short 929 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah, the whole thing, right, But then 930 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 1: they went to in the league in terms of getting 931 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: pushed back. So that pushback I talked about last season. 932 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: So Mr Bisky he didn't never to throw too, but 933 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: he also was there was a lot of like crap 934 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 1: in his face and on running down the same thing. 935 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: So you gotta look and see like where was the 936 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: running back at the time, Where was the running back 937 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: and where with the old line at the time, when 938 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: the when the contact was made with the running back 939 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,240 Speaker 1: and they didn't really give him a chance last season 940 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 1: obviously they were in more running downs. It was more 941 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: obvious that they were gonna run the ball because they 942 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 1: didn't want to throw the ball. So this year, knew 943 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: oh line coach Harry he Standing came from More Dame 944 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: and then they drafted James Daniels, who was likely going 945 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: to play left guard. So I'm watching that to see 946 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: what the running back opportunity will be like in terms 947 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 1: of yards before contact, because that's a big help for 948 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 1: yards after contact. So for me, that one's kind of 949 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: like the overarching like what are the combinations of the 950 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: old lineman. Let's go from that, because then we need 951 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: to live at where who are the wide receivers and 952 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: who are they targeting and why? Right? And so I'm 953 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 1: you kind of hit on a lot of the things 954 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: I was looking at to the pass catchers, especially for 955 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 1: both sides. I mean, for the Bears, they add Allen Robinson, 956 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: they go get Taylor Gabriel, the add Trey Burton, and 957 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: how these guys, by the way, the number one guy 958 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 1: in red zone targets in training camp who but that, 959 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: by the way, that doesn't mean crap. That actually six 960 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: foot six tight end. And I feel like we haven't 961 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: people haven't talked about him because as soon as Trey 962 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: Burton came over to Chicago, everybody was onre Burton. I'm 963 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: among those people, and so we sort of forgot about 964 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 1: the fact that Adam Treheen last year, all the red 965 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: zone targets and training camp, we're talking about him a 966 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,439 Speaker 1: lot this time last year, and we're not talking about 967 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: him at all. But I do want to see how 968 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: the new pass catchers working there. Same with the Ravens. 969 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they go, they go get Michael Crabtree, who, 970 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, despite Marii Cooper hanging around there in Oakland, 971 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: Crabtree has been the better fantasy receiver the last two years, 972 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: you know. And then it's a question of our John 973 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: Brown and really Snead healthy and how do they work 974 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 1: in to this offense. I'm also looking at the quarterbacks, 975 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: and I know we may not see a ton of 976 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 1: Mitched Drobiski in this one, but this is this is 977 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: a year for him to kind of step up. It's 978 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: not a maker break yere, just a second year, but 979 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: they put weapons around him so that that takes away 980 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: one excuse for him to not perform this year. So 981 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, I imagine we're not going to see a 982 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: lot of him, but we will see, you know, at 983 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 1: least a little bit, I would suspect, So I want 984 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: to see how he works. You know, the reports that 985 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: he's still sort of learning the new offensive system from 986 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 1: Matt Naggy Um, who I like the nickname Swaggy Naggy, 987 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: which that's great that that I'm I totally endorse that 988 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 1: Um that, but he's still kind of learning the system. 989 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: So I want to see, you know, what, his how 990 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: far he's come, how far he might still have to 991 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: go whatever short amount of time. And then we talked 992 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: at the start Lamar Jackson. I mean, look, Joe Flacco. 993 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: We'll see Joe flaggo for maybe a series, um, you know, 994 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 1: just to kind of get some work in, but it 995 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: will probably a lot of Lamar Jackson in this one. 996 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 1: I just want to see it. So they've installed in 997 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: training camp I like get. I like log you know 998 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: how like people who go to concerts and follow bands, 999 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 1: they will like the set list, So I do that 1000 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: for training camps, like what plays are they running and 1001 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: to who? Right? Not for not as much for the 1002 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: second or third string quarterback, but what are they doing 1003 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 1: when when QB one is in? And they've been a 1004 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 1: lot more creative. This auseson they being the Ravens. So 1005 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: they've installed more r P O s, which obviously they're 1006 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,720 Speaker 1: all the race, but that's not something that Joe Flacco 1007 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: is known for, right not known fort there um. And 1008 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: by the way, Marceyanda have to give my looks my 1009 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 1: old line shout out here should be back right guard 1010 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: he's a huge difference maker. He was probably the best 1011 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: guard in terms of not allowing pressures on passing downs, 1012 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: and when he wasn't there last season, huge loss. And 1013 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 1: that's why you saw like, look, that's the one Joe 1014 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: Flacco can see in his face. The right guard is 1015 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: the one he can he can see. It's not as 1016 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: blind side, it's non blind side. And that's why you 1017 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: got a lot of those second or third reads right, 1018 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 1: not necessarily the first read. So for me, it's interesting 1019 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: to see, okay, between r p O s and more 1020 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: creative offense. You know, is are these people going to 1021 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 1: be healthy? Who's going to be potentially out there for them? 1022 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: And then, by the way, to me, our pos installed 1023 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: in training camp, that to me sets up a little 1024 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 1: more of a Lamar Jackson type feel because that's more 1025 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 1: college style what he's used to. I just I just 1026 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 1: the idea of you know, Joe Flacco, like if you're 1027 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: outside layer, you're an edge rusher, and you see Joe 1028 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: Flacco like fake a handoff. Are you just laughing? You're like, 1029 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: he's not running this ball. He's not. It's just the 1030 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: pot right, There's no there's no there's nobody's buying. Joe 1031 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 1: Flacco is gonna take off around the edge with the football, 1032 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 1: but creativity in the offense is really interesting. Morning Wig 1033 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: is the guy. If if Lamar Jackson's gonna work, it's 1034 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: Morning Wig to like, that's just what he does. Like, 1035 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,439 Speaker 1: he makes that work, and he installs things for people 1036 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 1: that specifically our tailored towards their strength. So to me, 1037 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,879 Speaker 1: those RPOs are a good sign that we may see 1038 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: our boy. I will, I will, you know, preach a 1039 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: word of caution to everybody there, gosh, please, because I 1040 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 1: just I know what's going to happen is like Lamar 1041 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: Jackson is going to get in the game and he's 1042 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 1: going to be running against the twos and maybe the three, 1043 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 1: and he's going to light it up right. Well, yeah, 1044 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: because it's right, it's Winters going to go berserk. And 1045 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 1: we've both we've both professed our our love and admiration 1046 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson. But just let's just let's just pump 1047 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: the brakes a little bit, you know, So if he goes, 1048 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: if he goes just bananas against the third stringers, let's 1049 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: you know, let's enjoy for what it is, right, a 1050 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 1: night of fun. But look the to me. The only 1051 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: like this tiny little smitherings of clues are literally just 1052 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: o line combinations and types of plays and the kind 1053 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 1: of the breadth of plays that you're running, not necessarily 1054 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: even the specific ones because there are coaches and some 1055 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: coaches here like John Harbaugh is definitely one of them 1056 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 1: who can be has one of those memories that's like 1057 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: I remember they played this in the third game of 1058 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: preseason in two thousand and four against the blah blah, 1059 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 1: Like that's these just are that banana. So like, don't 1060 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 1: try to like overthink any of it, just kind of 1061 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 1: get the overall flow, look to see personnel combinations and 1062 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: then look for where they're actually are sort of position battles, right, 1063 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: and that in wide receivers in both of these teams 1064 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,839 Speaker 1: are the position battles to take a look at. There 1065 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: we go, So let's wrap up the show. Give me 1066 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: that drum loop, please, oh tip it up there to 1067 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 1: the BHL Chronicle's best shape of his life. We got 1068 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: a paper one up there in Seattle, Carol going nuts 1069 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: about his running backs for c J. Procise. Carol says 1070 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 1: he's never been in this kind of shape. For Chris Carson, 1071 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 1: Pat Carroll's never seen him in better shape. For j 1072 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,479 Speaker 1: V Majestic, Pat Carroll says he's ridiculously fit for a shot. 1073 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: Penny says, we're still learning about him right now. Huh interesting, 1074 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 1: So Penny isn't bad shape at least he's not the 1075 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 1: best shape than life, which is you know, I mean 1076 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 1: the guy's not that old, right, you figured he should 1077 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,280 Speaker 1: be a pretty great shape. Anyway. Down to at answer, 1078 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn says, Julio Jones quote has put the work 1079 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: in and he looks great. Good luck dvs in the 1080 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 1: NFC South have fun with that one. Julio Jones in 1081 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: the best shape of his life is a scary proposition. 1082 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: I there's no specimen that I think is more interesting 1083 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: than Julio Jones, like just from Combine to college, to 1084 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: Combine to every single place. Like okay, that's that he's built. Absolutely. 1085 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 1: So that'll do it for this edition of the NFL 1086 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 1: Fantasy Live Podcast. Thanks to Madeline Bird, Thanks of course, 1087 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: the Cynthia Freeland Brusal behind the Glass. Shout out to 1088 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,800 Speaker 1: Adam Rank, his wife, second child. Welcome to the world 1089 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 1: Wedge Antwill's Rank. Remember a wise man, once said f Poop. 1090 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,720 Speaker 1: The scoop Scoop did the whoop whoof the scoopie poop. 1091 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,240 Speaker 1: We'll see you on Monday.