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Speaker 1: today and I saw what I thought was a very

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Speaker 1: interesting piece done by Stuart Mandel and Ralph Russo. It's

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Speaker 1: still over there on the front page of the College

436
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Speaker 1: Football corner of the Athletic if you want to go

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Speaker 1: read it, but it was basically gathering a lot of

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Speaker 1: opinions on the transfer portal around the idea that college

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Speaker 1: football programs are trying to structure contracts with players that

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Speaker 1: punish if you leave, if you break the deal, or

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Speaker 1: in other words, they're trying to structure the deals that

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Speaker 1: the players have the same way as the deals that

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Speaker 1: the coaches have. If a coach is at Oklahoma State

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Speaker 1: and then Florida wants to hire him, they can do that,

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Speaker 1: but obviously the coach is breaking his contract with Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 2: To go to Florida. Therefore he owes that school a buyout.

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Speaker 1: However much is in the contract, Usually it's the school

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Speaker 1: you're going to that pays the buyout. But a lot

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Speaker 1: of people have looked around and said Wow, these players

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Speaker 1: they have like all the benefit with none of the repercussion.

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Speaker 2: We don't like that.

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Speaker 1: That's out of whack, that's imbalanced. So we want some

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Speaker 1: parameters put in here. Since we're footing the bill for

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Speaker 1: all of your healthcare, and we're feeding you and we're

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Speaker 1: housing you, and you're getting a free education, and then

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Speaker 1: you're making a lot of money not only because of

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Speaker 1: how good you are, but also because you get the

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Speaker 1: rub against a very established brand like that Florida Gator logo.

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Speaker 1: For example, I can be the best ride receiver in

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Speaker 1: the world. If I don't get to go play for

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Speaker 1: USC or Oregon or Florida or North Carolina, I am

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Speaker 1: very limited in my value.

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Speaker 2: So they're sitting there. That's say, if you get all

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Speaker 2: that which we're happy to give.

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Speaker 1: You, we want a little something if you just decide

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Speaker 1: to leave and leave us in a lurch and our

467
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Speaker 1: rosters out of whack, we're owed something. Or ideally we

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Speaker 1: put that clause in there so you don't leave. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's what the piece is about, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people having different opinions on that. Should there be a

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Speaker 1: price to pay if a player wants to transfer. Basically,

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Speaker 1: this wouldn't impact you a whole lot per se as

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Speaker 1: a fan. But I know a lot of people watching

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Speaker 1: this show, A lot of college football fans have opinions

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Speaker 1: already about the transfer portal. And you don't like that

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Speaker 1: players move freely, you don't like the mercenary feel that

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Speaker 1: it has. It doesn't turn you away from watching the sport.

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Speaker 1: I'm not dumb enough to say that. Well, if you

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Speaker 1: really don't like it, stop watching stupid just stupidity. It's

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Speaker 1: bumper sticker logic. Stop saying it if you want to

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Speaker 1: be taken seriously. So I'm not saying that here. But

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Speaker 1: you can be upset with something and still partaking it.

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Speaker 1: I'm upset with a number of things about college football,

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Speaker 1: still love college football, so this is one of them

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Speaker 1: for me. Maybe you feel like I do. But I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at that and I'm saying, isn't this backwards? I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's going to stand up to legal scrutiny,

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Speaker 1: but even if it does, is that really the smartest

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Speaker 1: way to go about trying to achieve maximum roster continuity

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Speaker 1: and minimize roster churn? Because I've always thought if you

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Speaker 1: want to limit the amount of players who are going

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Speaker 1: into the.

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Speaker 2: Transfer portal every cycle.

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Speaker 1: Don't put a punishment on going in the transfer portal,

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Speaker 1: incentivize staying.

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Speaker 2: Where they are. How do you do that. Well, the

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Speaker 2: way you do that.

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Speaker 1: Is, since we're entering the revenue sharing era this year.

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Speaker 1: Starting this year, teams are allowed to, you know, allocate

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Speaker 1: up to twenty million dollars amongst their roster, not per player,

501
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Speaker 1: but guys are going to paid a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: money this year that they previously would not have gotten

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Speaker 1: to play college football as part of the new revenue

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Speaker 1: sharing era. Well, I've looked at that and I've said

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Speaker 1: that's great, that's great.

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Speaker 2: I'm all for it.

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Speaker 1: However, in the interest of roster retention, in the interest

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Speaker 1: of roster continuity, and it being a net positive for

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Speaker 1: college football, if a true freshman at Texas is also

510
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Speaker 1: a sophomore at Texas is also a junior at Texas

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Speaker 1: is also a senior at Texas because of the glue

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Speaker 1: that should exist between student athletes and the programs they

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Speaker 1: play for.

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Speaker 2: In my ideal college football world, if.

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Speaker 1: You want to achieve that, why don't we incentivize guys

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Speaker 1: to sue that just because you're gonna get paid a

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Speaker 1: portion via revenue sharing. To play at Georgia doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: the freshman and the seniors get paid the same amount.

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Speaker 1: The way I would look at this is I'd say

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Speaker 1: forget about punishing guys with a buyout. If they want

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Speaker 1: to leave Georgia and transfer to Oklahoma. It's probably not

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Speaker 1: going to stand up to legal scrutiny. And even if

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Speaker 1: it does.

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Speaker 2: Think about that.

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Speaker 1: Just think about the ramifications on the recruiting trail. If

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Speaker 1: Kirby lost a player and Georgia went after a buyout

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Speaker 1: that was owed to them because that player left Georgia,

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Speaker 1: imagine what Oklahoma could do in the living room recruiting

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Speaker 1: against Georgia. Hey, you want to go there. The minute

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Speaker 1: you don't like it, they're gonna try.

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Speaker 2: And charge you to leave. It just doesn't work. Practically,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what it does work is Kirby

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Speaker 1: Smart walking in that same living room and saying, if

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Speaker 1: you come to Georgia, I can promise you a couple

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Speaker 1: of things. You're gonna get world class development. We are

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Speaker 1: going to put you in position to play for a

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Speaker 1: national championship or at least compete for one every year. Thirdly,

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Speaker 1: we can tell you you're gonna earn a minimum guarantee

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Speaker 1: as a freshman. If you're around as a sophomore, you

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Speaker 1: earn a little bit more, and it rapidly scales if

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Speaker 1: you're still here as a junior, and then if you're

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Speaker 1: here as a senior, that's when the big money comes.

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Speaker 2: Now you are free to leave. It is illegal for

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Speaker 2: us to say otherwise. You're free to leave.

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Speaker 1: However, and this is where I think this should be

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Speaker 1: a conference policy, not an individual institution policy. If you leave,

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Speaker 1: you start from square one in terms of the revenue

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Speaker 1: sharing amount you get wherever you go.

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Speaker 2: To me, that's how you achieve that. It makes guys be.

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Speaker 1: A lot more particular and a lot more business minded

552
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Speaker 1: when they make their decision out of high school because

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Speaker 1: they know, my big, big payday in terms of rev

554
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Speaker 1: share is not coming for a couple of years. You

555
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: may get some nil money and that's okay, but your

556
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Speaker 1: big payday is coming. If you commit to South Carolina

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Speaker 1: and then you're there two years later, and especially if

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Speaker 1: you're three years later now, I do think there have

559
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: to be parameters in there, like if your head coach leaves,

560
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Speaker 1: you're free to transfer, and your status your earning status

561
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Speaker 1: doesn't restart. I understand fairness doctrine and how that has

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Speaker 1: to be woven in.

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Speaker 2: There, but broad strokes purposes.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me that you don't think you could achieve

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Speaker 1: more continuity by doing this than you could by trying

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Speaker 1: to force buyouts to be paid.

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Speaker 2: If guys transfer, I don't know, Guys, I just don't know.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little parched, so you'll excuse me. I was

570
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Speaker 1: on the road yesterday had no zevia, which is on

571
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Speaker 1: me because I've got boxes and boxes of it in

572
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Speaker 1: the office, but I forgot to take it.

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Speaker 2: So how about not one, but two SIPs, zero sugar SIPs.

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Speaker 2: Add I've cream soda.

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Speaker 1: ZeVA a Sunday tradition and Tuesday and Thursday around here,

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Speaker 1: big important matters to discuss, really really pressing matter here.

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Speaker 1: On the show, kJ hit us up from Asheville, North Carolina.

578
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: He said, have you seen this Rich Rodriguez thing with

579
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Speaker 1: him banning players from TikTok?

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Speaker 2: I told you it was a big deal, he said.

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Speaker 1: It seems like an old man who isn't with the times,

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Speaker 1: and it may lose him some guys. If you're asking me,

583
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Speaker 1: kJ you're probably partially right here. Maybe this will lose

584
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Speaker 1: Rich Rodriguez a player. Let me ask you some kJ.

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Speaker 1: You are the head coach at West Virginia. You walk

586
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Speaker 1: up to a kid and say, I want you to

587
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Speaker 1: start it outside linebacker for me. You check all the boxes,

588
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Speaker 1: you got all the critical factors and traits. We want

589
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Speaker 1: one ask, don't dance on TikTok. And that kid says, Coach,

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Speaker 1: that's a deal breaker for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm out.

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Speaker 1: Was that kid really gonna put his face in the

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Speaker 1: fan for you? Do you really think he was going

594
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Speaker 1: over the cliff for you? Now that's a theoretical. I

595
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: can't prove a counterfactual. I don't know, but I'm just

596
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Speaker 1: guessing kJ that if you were in the head coach's

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Speaker 1: chair at West Virginia or anywhere else, that you may

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Speaker 1: end up adopting a similar policy. So, Rich, if you

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Speaker 1: don't know what we're talking about, shame on me for

600
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Speaker 1: not spelling out the details. Luckily we do have video.

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Speaker 1: So Rich Rodriguez walks into West Virginia. Obviously he's there

602
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Speaker 1: because the previous guy got fired. Now, while I'm a

603
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Speaker 1: fan of Neil Brown, generically anytime a coach gets fired.

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Speaker 1: The new guy's gonna come in and he sees some

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Speaker 1: things he doesn't like. Things were allowed to be a

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Speaker 1: certain way, and he wants to put a fresh coat

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Speaker 1: of pain on. It's been done a million times before.

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Speaker 1: Rich Rodriguez is just a million and one. However, Rich

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Speaker 1: rod probably a generation ago when he was in Morgantown,

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Speaker 1: never imagined that he would take a hardline stance on

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Speaker 1: something like TikTok, mainly because that was the sound of

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Speaker 1: clock made. It was not an app on a cell

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Speaker 1: phone that really consumed a lot of his players' lives.

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Speaker 2: So the other day he was.

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Speaker 1: Asked about this. You're gonna have a ban on this stuff.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna take a social media coach. Coach, what's your

617
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Speaker 1: opinion on this? We tried to shave this SoundBite down,

618
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Speaker 1: but we couldn't. It's like a what colin a minute

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Speaker 1: and a half long. We tried to shave it down, but

620
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Speaker 1: he just got on a heater. And when guys get

621
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Speaker 1: on heaters, you get out of the way, keep your

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Speaker 1: mouth shut, and you let him talk. So here is

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Speaker 1: Rich Rodriguez on sort of a quasi TikTok and band,

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Speaker 1: and the reason why they're going to be on.

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Speaker 4: It, So it's not I'm not banning them from I

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Speaker 4: just banned them from dancing on it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's like, don't look, we try to have a hard

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Speaker 4: edge whatever, and you're in there, you know, in your tights.

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Speaker 4: You know, dancing on TikTok ain't quite the image of

631
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Speaker 4: our program that I want. But I told the team that,

632
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Speaker 4: I said, everything today is about trying to make everybody individual.

633
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Speaker 4: It's all about the individual. It's all about the individual.

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Speaker 4: And I said, football is one of the last things

635
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Speaker 4: that got to be more about the team than the individual.

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Speaker 4: And so I just I banned dancing on tik talk.

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Speaker 4: I guess I did that. But anything that doesn't look

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Speaker 4: like our program should look, you know, I mean I

639
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: think it's just like, come on, you know, really, I mean,

640
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Speaker 4: am I'm allowed to do that? I guess I can

641
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 4: have rules now when, like I said, twenty years from now,

642
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 4: they want to be sitting in their pajamas and the basement,

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Speaker 4: eating cheetos and watching TikTok or whatever the hell they

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00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 4: go at it, smoking cannabis whatever. I mean, knock yourself out.

645
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Speaker 4: But you know, the hope you're focus can be on

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00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: winning football games. You know, let's how about let's win

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Speaker 4: the football game and not worry about winning the TikTok.

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Speaker 1: You hear that, Jeff and Steve and Michael. I'm just

649
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: randomly guessing names of people listening to the show. Stop

650
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Speaker 1: worrying about winning TikTok the TikTok. Stop worrying about winning it. Listen.

651
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: Whether you agree with his tactics or not. There is

652
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: a thing in life. There is a line in society

653
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: we call at the degaff line. It is an acronym.

654
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: You can ask your older brother what it stands for.

655
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: But wherever the degaff line is, Rich Rodriguez is well

656
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: beyond it.

657
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: So when it comes.

658
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: To gaffing, he d and therefore he can stand at

659
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: a podium and say these kinds of things, and a

660
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: lot of his peers are thinking it. They just don't

661
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 1: want to take that stance. However, I'm going to get

662
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: pushed back on this. I know because I already focus

663
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: group this talk to a couple of our younger viewers

664
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: today in the Pate State community. And sometimes I bounced

665
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: this off of you guys, I said, hey, what do

666
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: you think about this?

667
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: Oh? I hate it? Why do you hate it. Well,

668
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: he's not letting his players live their lives. Obviously.

669
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: I could go with the follow up of do you

670
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: really think you're going to walk into the workplace and

671
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: maintain all of your rights that you would out on

672
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: the street. Do you really think that there's any world

673
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: that exists where you go and get paid in exchange

674
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: for service and there aren't certain conditions you have to meet,

675
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: There aren't certain rights you have to give up in

676
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: the workplace. I could go that route, but it makes

677
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: you sound sixty five years old.

678
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: So not that there's anything wrong with being.

679
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: Sixty five, but we don't believe in age on this show,

680
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: and so for that reason, among others, I'm not even

681
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: gonna go down that route. I'm gonna take that argument,

682
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: which would be sound, and I'm gonna put it on

683
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: the shelf because I want to go this route instead,

684
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: because another one of my focus groupees said, but it's

685
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: just a reflection of society. Guys want to be active

686
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: on whatever the most popular platform is, and that happens

687
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: to be TikTok, and guys just want to be active

688
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: on There's just a reflection of society. I listen to

689
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: that and you're not wrong. However, I do have follow

690
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: ups if you'll grant me, And I just want to

691
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: ask you this. This person happened to be a Tennessee fan,

692
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: so I'll ask you about Tennessee. But you could just

693
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: as easily apply this to Morgantown, West Virginia. Do you

694
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: really want your football players blending in with society? Do

695
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: we ever look back on championship teams and the members

696
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: of those teams and say, boy, when they walked around campus,

697
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: you couldn't even tell the difference. When I saw DeVante

698
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: Smith walk in the quad in Tuscaloosa, he acted just

699
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: like everyone else. You know, Jamar Chase when he was

700
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: at LSU, he just blended in. You never would have

701
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: known he was a superstar receiver Joe Burrow on that

702
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: same team. You couldn't even pick him out of a lineup. No,

703
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: you want him to be the exception to the rule

704
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: because you want greatness. That's really what you want your

705
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: team to achieve. Team.

706
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: Notice there's that keyword.

707
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: There's that keyword that Rich Rodriguez was focused on their

708
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: team over individual. Now again, I sound like a youth

709
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: camp counselor on this, and that's okay, because those guys

710
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: are right a lot of the times. As I figured

711
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: out early on in life in Pine Mountain, Georgia, you

712
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: want your guys to be different. I'm just speaking personally

713
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: here at Payton State. I don't want my roster acting

714
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: like everyone else on campus because most other people on

715
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: campus aren't qualified to do what we're trying to do.

716
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: And that's when football games and this is a very

717
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: violent sport. I know we've tried to touch it up

718
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: for public consumption and we try and speak about it

719
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: with really rounded edges.

720
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: But it's rough, and you need rough people to be

721
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: playing it physically and mentally. You need to be there.

722
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: One of the most underreported factors in.

723
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: College football these days is how little trouble players get in.

724
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: I'm going somewhere with this.

725
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: A bunch of coaches have talked about this, none of

726
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: them on the record. We kind of got Elco to

727
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: talk about it last week, but I swear to you

728
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: I've had this conversation with no less than thirty coaches, assistants,

729
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: head coaches. They say, our guys don't get in trouble.

730
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: It's stunning. When I fell off a cliff off the field,

731
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: issues used to be a year round headline grabber, no

732
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: matter which program it was outside of the IVS or

733
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: the service academies. If you were any good, and sometimes

734
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: even if you were terrible, you had guys getting in

735
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: trouble off the field. Think to yourself, outside of a

736
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: few exceptions to the rule, I don't need you throwing

737
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: them at me. Where's the proliferation of negative headlines? And

738
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: so you can believe either one the media has been

739
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: bought and paid for. I know you all have your

740
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: takes on that, or number two, those headlines aren't around

741
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,959
Speaker 1: as much because the trouble isn't happening as much. Well

742
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: I know for a fact it is the ladder. Even

743
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: if some of the former is true, The ladder is

744
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: the case. Hardly anyone's getting in trouble off the field.

745
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: What changed, Well, what changed is one of the curious

746
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: little byproducts of this generation where players are getting paid

747
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: money and they know, because of this piece of technology

748
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: that they have in their back pocket, everyone's watching them.

749
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: Is no one wants to take a chance, No one

750
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: wants to do anything that would cast them in a

751
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: bad light. You may look at that and say, well,

752
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: that sounds like a good thing. It's a very good thing.

753
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: Of course, it's a very good thing. It's almost a

754
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: great thing. But I'll tell you, sometimes even really really

755
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: good things have a side effect, an unintended consequence. And

756
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: Rich Rodriguez is probably experiencing a little bit of this.

757
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: But he's not the only one. You got a lot

758
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: of coaches out there. They will never say this publicly.

759
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: This does not pass the PR department, but they're looking

760
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: and they're saying, you know, my guys lack an edge,

761
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: and I think it's caused they're too nice.

762
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: We've got too.

763
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: Many choir boys on this team, and so for so

764
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: long we preached personal responsibility and accountability, and finally the

765
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: message looks to have been received.

766
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: Maybe not necessarily because.

767
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: You preached it, but for whatever the reasons are external

768
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: factors included. These guys are acting exactly how we always

769
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: wanted them to act.

770
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 2: We hardly have any issues.

771
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: I hardly have to release any statements about player arrests

772
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: or lack of accountability. However, I'm noticing a little timidity,

773
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: a little trepidation. Not as many vocal leaders here, not

774
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: as many alphas in the room. And you know, back

775
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: in the day when we had guys getting in a

776
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: little bit more trouble. It seems to have not been

777
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: as big of an issue. This is a conversation happened

778
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: in a lot of places. Not all places, but a

779
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: lot of places. I just wonder from Afar if he's

780
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: looking at that a little bit, if he's looking at

781
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: saying I got more guys willing to dance on TikTok

782
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: than I do willing to put their nose in this

783
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: briar patch here on third down and short. I'm not

784
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: a big fan of this. So if we can't get one,

785
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: I certainly don't want to be dealing with the other. Now.

786
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: The trade off here be cause it's all about trade.

787
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: The trade off here is Rich Rodriguez better understand that

788
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: if the these guys acquiesced to this request or demand,

789
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to give them something. I've never

790
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: seen Rich Rodriguez dance. I have no clue how good

791
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: a dancer he is. But look, if mac Brown can

792
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: do it, you can do it. You need to give

793
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: those guys that, at least when you win games this fall,

794
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: you need to be prepared to completely and utterly humiliate

795
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: yourself in that locker room by doing something that you

796
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: will not let them do on various social media platforms.

797
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: It's only right. Let us move on. Where did I

798
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: put my towns? They're watching us? I'll tell you where

799
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: they're watching us. Some people think I make these up

800
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: on the spot. No, I look in the live chat.

801
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: They're watching us in Tucson, Arizona, Faetville, North Carolina, and Woodbine, Georgia.

802
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys so much for being tuned in so

803
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: so you want to know huh. I was gonna put

804
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: this at the end of the show, but then he

805
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: said why not put it in the middle. Henry from Tupelo, Mississippi,

806
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: suspiciously with a W on the end, he said, yesterday

807
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: was really hyped in storm circles. Do you think it

808
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: was a bust? Or did you see anything worth talking about?

809
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: This is a massive debate right now in the weather community.

810
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: Was yesterday a bust or not?

811
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: So? For those of you unfamiliar, yesterday was supposed to

812
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: be historic and explosive, and in many ways it was.

813
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: I don't make light of this.

814
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: There were dozens of fatalities in the South and the

815
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: mid South, even and portions of the Midwest. Over the

816
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: past two days because of violent storms and tornadoes and flooding, wildfire.

817
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: So it was a very robust storm system that moved

818
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: across the country. And then afterwards, if you get anything

819
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: less than an all time historic outbreak of tornadoes, once

820
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: the storm's prediction center has said hey, it's coming, the

821
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: big one's coming, then you have people say, oh, this

822
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: was a bust.

823
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: Oh they missed this forecast. It wasn't a big deal.

824
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: My take on this, since I was out in the

825
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: field all day yesterday chasing storms, and I'll tell you

826
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: about that in a second, is you have to have

827
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: a two pronged approach on this. One of them is

828
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: emotion and public and the other is science and private.

829
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: Because I want you to think about this. Let's say

830
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: you're just in Plantersville, Alabama, which I know got hit

831
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: hard yesterday. If you lost your home, if you lost

832
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: a loved one, your entire life just got turned upside down.

833
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the discourse that you hear centering around

834
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: how big a bust the forecast was and how not

835
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,959
Speaker 1: a big deal this was in the grand scheme of things. Well,

836
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: your house is strewn across a greater part of the

837
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: zip code or worse. That was the worst day of

838
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: your life. So it was catastrophic in your eyes, so

839
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: publicly when you talk about this stuff. To answer the question, no,

840
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't a bust because if anyone lost property or

841
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: had a property damage, or lost a loved one, it

842
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: was terrible. But absolutely as a scientist, if you work

843
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: at the National Weather Service in the storm's prediction center,

844
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: I know several of those guys. One of the first

845
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: things I did when I went to Norman, Oklahoma the

846
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: fast year was, Hey, I can't wait for this Oklahoma

847
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: football game, but I'm also going to be here Friday.

848
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: Can I come over? And I went over and met

849
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: with all those guys. They got to get behind closed

850
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: doors and they got to take an emotionless look at

851
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: what our forecast was.

852
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: Did it verify? If it didn't, what were the factors.

853
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: You have to quality control yourself, no different than if

854
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: you work at a news station or you sell insurance.

855
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: You got to look at your approach and then you

856
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: go attack it, and then you get feedback and then

857
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: you adjust.

858
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: It was a big day. I was out all day yesterday.

859
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: You know, I drove one thousand and sixty miles yesterday

860
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: from sun up to way past sundown. I got back

861
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: to Nashville before midnight, though I started in Columbus, Georgia.

862
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: Six am. I set out. I went all the way

863
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: up to Tuscaloosa, met up with some people. We ended

864
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: up driving all the way down to Hattiesburg, Mississippi. We

865
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: went all over South Mississippi. They got torn up. Prayers

866
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: for a lot of you guys down there. I know

867
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: you need it. I know it's going to be a

868
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 1: long cleanup. We were in Bassfield, two very close calls

869
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: in Bastfield yesterday, summer all Mississippi, Heidelberg, Laurel, So we

870
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: were all around southern Mississippi. We end up going all

871
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: the way back up to Meridian, over into Demopolis, Alabama,

872
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: back up to Tuscaloosa, over to Birmingham, back to Nashville.

873
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: Did that all yesterday, over one thousand miles. Everything was

874
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: rain wrapped. It was really hard to see. We kind

875
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: of sort of low key got ourselves in a little

876
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: bit of a trouble for just a second there New

877
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: Heidelberg yesterday, but got out. But it was a wild time,

878
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: wild time. Those picturesque long track wedge tornadoes that I

879
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: really thought were going to be a staple of yesterday.

880
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: Those weren't provided in abundance, which is a very good thing.

881
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing. So what my expectations were,

882
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: they probably weren't quite met, which again is a very

883
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: good thing. I can't emphasize that enough. But yeah, it

884
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: was a I mean, it was active. Now, it was rough.

885
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: It was active. But I don't have a ton of

886
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: video to show you to answer several questions. We got

887
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: not a ton of not a ton of like photogenic

888
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: moments from yesterday.

889
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: It's just rain, rain, wrap, tornadoes.

890
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: That's what we were dealing with yesterday. I got into it.

891
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: I saw several people ask before I move on here,

892
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: because it's a college football show, I saw many people

893
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 1: ask a question about this. I didn't want to address

894
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: it Friday. Some of you saw that. I had a

895
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: little interaction back and forth. It wasn't pleasant. It was

896
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: with someone who just kind of called out the way

897
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: I talk about weather. I am very passionate about atmospheric science.

898
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm a huge weather nerd. I've loved it my whole life.

899
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: I stormchasing is my other biggest hobby. And this was

900
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: a person who I have since spoken privately with We

901
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: hashed it all out. It's fine, but they had an opinion.

902
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: They expressed it with me, and this is a person

903
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: who has suffered loss in the past due to severe weather.

904
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 1: So when they look at someone glorify or celebrate chasing storms,

905
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: chasing tornadoes, they got a problem with it. So I

906
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: listened to it, took it to heart, offered my perspective.

907
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: But a lot of you asked about that, like what

908
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: was the deal with that?

909
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: It was just two people viewing things two different ways,

910
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: both had their reasons, handled it privately. We're good now,

911
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: but I mean I wasn't going to air that out

912
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: on the show. Still not going to air that out

913
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: on the show. But there's an understanding. It circles back

914
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: to what we were just talking about. There. There's a

915
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: delicate way you have to deal with this. I mean,

916
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: there's no thrill to me like seeing a tornado. Ideally,

917
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: you always see them chewing up a wide open cornfield

918
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: in Nebraska, and outside of maybe loss of crops, fingers crossed, insured,

919
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: no one gets hurt.

920
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 2: That's an ideal world. This is no fairytale world.

921
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: So oftentimes you can't have one without having the downside,

922
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: which is property loss and sometimes worse. I've always looked

923
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: at it as me rooting for it or not is

924
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: not going to change whether it happens or not. So

925
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: as long as it's going to happen, Number one, since

926
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: I'm very passionate about it. It just boggles your mind when

927
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: you can witness that stuff live. I want to go

928
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: experience it, and I accept the risk. But also just

929
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: so you understand, our primary objective out there is visualizing

930
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: and then gathering. If you're in the data gathering field,

931
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: you may run a YouTube channel, whatever your main goal

932
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: out there is. The secondary goal for everyone is you

933
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: better be equipped and ready to help the moment search

934
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: and rescue time sets in. Everyone I know who chases

935
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: has participated in it. You've got stories that I wouldn't

936
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: tell on air. I've got my own I wouldn't tell

937
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: them on air. You see some terrible things, but you know,

938
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: if that's going to happen, that's the trade off. You

939
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: want to be out there, you want to thrill seek,

940
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: that's fine, but you also got to be ready to

941
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: put yourself in position to help.

942
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: So that's kind of part of the package there.

943
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: Just so everyone understands that anyone who gets into that field,

944
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: that's something you need to accept as being part of

945
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: your role.

946
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: I stopped at five Quick Trips yesterday.

947
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: Boy, they fueled us yesterday. And at that renal car

948
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: was an SUV, so it chewed through a lot of

949
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 1: Quick Trip supply. I chewed through a lot of col

950
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: brew from Quick Trip, and I put the raisins in

951
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: the trail mix yesterday. Why not seven? I think I

952
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: down seven packs of trail mix. But Quick Trip they

953
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: just fueled the whole, the whole tour yesterday, and then

954
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: we'll go on the road this week and they'll fuel

955
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: the tour again. We appreciate them so much for being

956
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: on hand to basically make it all possible. All right,

957
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: let's move along. Let's move merrily along. Got several more

958
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: questions here. It's not a mailbag episode. I just had

959
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: an overflow the other day, so I wanted to put

960
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: some of these questions in here. It's stuff I wanted

961
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: to talk about anyway. Hopeful American, aren't we all from

962
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: bear Lake, Michigan? Hit me and said, Hey, I'm wondering

963
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: if you think this year is a year that Penn

964
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: State must win a National Championship. I personally think they

965
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: need to make it to the playoff and beat a

966
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: team ranked equivalent to them or better.

967
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: But my friend disagrees. He says they need to win

968
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: it all.

969
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: Well, this just means is Penn State National championship or

970
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: bust this year?

971
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 2: You know, only on the rarest of.

972
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: Occasions do I believe in that Ohio State this past

973
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: year was one of those. I thought they were national

974
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: title or bust. All the events at all. It was

975
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: a confluence of events and circumstances and they had to

976
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: win it, and they did. I thought it would have

977
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: been a bust. Anything short of that would have been

978
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: a bust. However, that is such an exception to the rule.

979
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: So to answer your question, no, I don't think it's

980
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: national championship or bust for Penn State. I would ask

981
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: your friend there, Okay, what if they don't win it,

982
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: is it a bust? What does bust mean? By the way,

983
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: it's a failure. So keep in mind he didn't explain

984
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: what the A or B is. There's a win the

985
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: national championship or anything else as a bust.

986
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: Okay, well, there's a scenario.

987
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: Where they beat Oregon in the regular season and route

988
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: to going undefeated. Okay, then let's say they play Ohio

989
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: State in Indianapolis and they beat them and win the

990
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: Big Ten and then they go win a couple of

991
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: games in the playoff, they get knocked out in the

992
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: semi final or the national title game.

993
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: That's a bust. You realize how much you just did.

994
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: That's right at the pinnacle of achievement for Penn State

995
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: football in the modern era.

996
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 2: That's not a bust.

997
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: It's a bust if they go ten and two and

998
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: then they're one and done in the playoffs because you

999
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: expect more from this group than what they achieved last year. Yeah,

1000
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: I could grant you that. That would be disappointing bust.

1001
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1002
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 1: I think it's disrespectful for how hard it is. There's

1003
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: an assumption. I think a lot of times, if you

1004
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: make it to a certain level, like Penn State last year.

1005
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 2: They win, well, they don't.

1006
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 1: They make it to the Big Ten title game, then

1007
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: they make the playoffs, they win a couple of games,

1008
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: they go to the semi finals. You can fool yourself

1009
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: into thinking, Okay, that's where we pick up next year.

1010
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: That's not where you pick up next year. That's the

1011
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: tough part. That's the tough part of not getting the

1012
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: job done. When you get a shot at the title

1013
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: is you don't just become the number one contender again.

1014
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: You start from scratch. You go all the way back

1015
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: down the ladder. You're laying on the floor with everyone else,

1016
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: and while you may be equipped to climb better than

1017
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: the rest of them, you still got to make the

1018
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: climb the next year. And there's all sorts of variability.

1019
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: You could have injuries, you could have guys defect or transfer,

1020
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: you could have the portal not feed you what you need,

1021
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: Like are they going to be good enough at receiver

1022
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 1: to do more than they did last year?

1023
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: Jury's still out on that.

1024
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: But if you believe it, if you believe it's national

1025
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: title or bust, I ask what is a bust?

1026
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: What defines a bust?

1027
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: And then the follow up, Okay, if something goes bust,

1028
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: then I want changes. That's the way I would look

1029
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: at things. If you're a bust, then I've got to

1030
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: make changes. Well, does that mean if they don't win

1031
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: the national title you want someone other than James Franklin?

1032
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: Or maybe we view the word bust differently. I don't know,

1033
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: But to me, what I want to see him do

1034
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: is win a game as an underdog. That means beat

1035
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,479
Speaker 1: Ohio State. They got a great shot against Oregon Colin.

1036
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you threw up their schedule. You

1037
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 1: probably did, and I wasn't looking there. It is again,

1038
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: if you're listening on pod, they play three games they

1039
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: should win, and.

1040
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: Then they've got Oregon at home. Oregon's replacing a ton

1041
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: of production and Oregon's got to go all the way

1042
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: over to State College.

1043
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: Granted it's early in the season, so weather's probably not

1044
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: a factor. Oh by the way, does anyone want to

1045
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: guess what time kickoff will be there? If it's big

1046
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: noon kickoff, that is a nine a m.

1047
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: Body clock kickoff for the Ducks.

1048
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: Is this the one time Penn State wants to play

1049
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: a big game at noon?

1050
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 2: No?

1051
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: No, even though it would be an advantage, you guys

1052
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: want to wide out. Look, I'm calling in all my

1053
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: favors to Fox. We may call Clatt on air. Maybe

1054
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: we'll call Joel Clatt on air say hey, can you

1055
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: help us here, buddy? Can you He wouldn't pick up

1056
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: this late? I don't think so. But my point there

1057
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: because I was making one.

1058
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: I was awful.

1059
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: I was off to a good start there, and I

1060
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: derailed myself. They play Oregon in Week four, That'll be

1061
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: a really tight point spread game.

1062
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: But winning that game, that'd be good.

1063
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: That's winning against one of the best programs in the country.

1064
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: But then I'll tell you the one I'd really love

1065
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: see that game at Ohio State November. First, win that game.

1066
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: You win that game, and you bought a lot of

1067
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: equity with me.

1068
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: But if it's just.

1069
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: Another one of those seasons where they split and maybe

1070
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: they beat Oregon because they should win that game, but

1071
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: then they go lose to Ohio State in typical hard fought,

1072
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 1: close but no cigar Penn State fashion, and then they

1073
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: either miss out on the Big Ten title game or

1074
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: they go but they get beat again, and then they

1075
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: survive in the playoff own up until they face an

1076
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: equal or slightly better than opponent. That yeah, that's a

1077
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: failure of a season to me, because when you got

1078
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: this much returning production, this much chemistry and synergy as

1079
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: a program, that team has a lot of it, not

1080
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: to mention your quarterbacks coming back, you ought to be

1081
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 1: able to do more. I thought the same thing about

1082
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: ole Miss last year. That's why ole Miss was a

1083
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: failure to me. Last year they didn't even make the playoff.

1084
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: But I just looked at it and I said, don't

1085
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: you have to achieve more than last year's team did

1086
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: if a lot of them are coming back for me

1087
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: to consider the season of success. And I think that

1088
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: is fair. So whether we consider the season of success

1089
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: or not, I don't. I can talk like that if

1090
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: you want me to, but I'm not putting it on

1091
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: whether you win a national title or not. That's a

1092
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: lofty standard, very lofty. Not that you shouldn't have lofty standards,

1093
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: but man's I don't know. If that's tough but fair,

1094
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: I guess, but tough. I did want to acknowledge something

1095
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: on the show. It's not sad news, I guess. Uncle

1096
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: Dennis Dennis Dodd, known around here as Uncle Dennis, has

1097
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: announced his retirement from CBS Sports.

1098
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: It's a legit retirement.

1099
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: He told me about it at the National Championship game

1100
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: in the press box and I said, what are they

1101
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: doing to you? He said, no, no, no, no, no. He's

1102
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: spelled it out for me. I'm legit retiring. Don't worry.

1103
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: You don't know you don't need to go set a

1104
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: fire to anything, So I'm not and I always am

1105
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: anti arson.

1106
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: You guys know that about me.

1107
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: Don't lose to food, don't set stuff on fire, two

1108
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: of the many rules that we have on this show.

1109
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: But Uncle Dennis Street named Dennis Dodd is retiring and

1110
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: I just wanted to share some things with you. One

1111
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: of seventy five photos that I found in the eye

1112
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 1: Josh of me and Uncle Dennis on the road.

1113
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: I've hung out with this dude a lot.

1114
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: I have spoken glowingly about him, and some of you

1115
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: have taken issue with something he's written about your team

1116
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: over the years, and you're like, man, why do you

1117
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: go so hard and to paint for Dennis Dodd? Because

1118
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: he has stood up for us. And this is a

1119
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: story I would never tell while he was employed here.

1120
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: But I want you to know when we came here,

1121
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: when we brought this show to this platform, and we

1122
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: got to hold that CBS microphone in our hands there,

1123
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: which gives you that legacy media rub it is a

1124
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: major media company, for lack of a better term, validating

1125
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: your existence. Some people in our industry had a problem

1126
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: with that, namely the people that had been around for

1127
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: a long time, writing for a living. I've got a

1128
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 1: mental respect for those folks. Dennis Dodd included. I've read

1129
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: Dennis Dodd since I was a kid, so it was

1130
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: an honor to get to work with him. But what

1131
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: I experienced and what you find when you're viewed as

1132
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: a disruptor and you're sort of the new guy but

1133
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: coming in from a different lane, is a lot of

1134
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: people get threatened by it.

1135
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't like it. They cold shoulder you.

1136
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: They're the last person to try and help open any door,

1137
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: which to me was cool because I didn't want that

1138
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: handout in anyway.

1139
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 2: But it's made very clear.

1140
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: You hear secondary, you hear secondhand what a lot of people.

1141
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 2: Say about you.

1142
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: You feel the body language in the press boxes, which

1143
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: you know, joke was on those folks. I hang out

1144
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: on the field because I don't want to be in

1145
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: the press box around them anyway, most of them. But

1146
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: I felt that from a lot of people, Dennis Dodd

1147
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: was the total opposite. You take all the negativity that

1148
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: we felt and the vibes that we got when we

1149
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: first got this break, this opportunity, and then you invert

1150
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: it and you get Dennis Dodd. Dennis Dodd, first time

1151
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: I ever met him, let me know if I can

1152
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: do anything to help. Here's this contact, here's this bit

1153
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: of information. He'd call with bits of nugget and intel

1154
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: all the time to try and help the show.

1155
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 2: Always gave good feedback, always.

1156
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: Very helpful, and I appreciated it because it was a rarity,

1157
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: and it's continued to be a rarity because, Hey, the

1158
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: folks that didn't want anything to do with us initially

1159
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: still don't want anything to do with this now. They

1160
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: just have the added layer of jealousy because we've been

1161
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: able to achieve a lot with the show. We get

1162
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: more access than they do, We got better relationships than

1163
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: they do, which I appreciate because that's due to a

1164
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: lot of people not named me. It's due to the

1165
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: dudes behind this wall. It's due to you. So I

1166
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: am very appreciative of that, and I can speak so

1167
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: directly about it because I'm not actually talking about myself,

1168
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: because I could yell into the air all day every day,

1169
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: we wouldn't achieve anything we've achieved with the show because

1170
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: you guys have helped us achieve with the show.

1171
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: They don't like.

1172
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: That Dennis Dodd is not one of them. So that's

1173
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: why I wanted to take time on the show to

1174
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: wish him a very happy retirement. I am completely confident

1175
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: that he could do this another twenty years if he

1176
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: wanted to. Dennis is in numbers, Dennis is up there

1177
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: in spirit, in health, Dennis is like.

1178
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 2: A solid forty six years old.

1179
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: He takes interviews, does radio interviews, walking on the treadmill.

1180
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: I've experienced this before when we'd be on the road

1181
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: and would work out at the same time.

1182
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: Just a machine physically.

1183
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: So he is choosing to retire and go travel and

1184
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: I wish him nothing but the best. But he was

1185
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: He was a real one from day one. As me

1186
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: Mal would say, so happy trails to uncle Dennis. We

1187
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: salute you in retirement and a we are a better

1188
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: university here at Payte State for having known you, and

1189
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: you have a tenured position anytime you want it. Let's

1190
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: move along, move along, try and make him proud with

1191
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: this next this next portion of the show, Coach k

1192
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: Not of Duke fame from Brian Texas.

1193
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 2: He hit us.

1194
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: He said, aside from cutting down the size of conferences,

1195
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: what are some ways to make conference schedules as balanced

1196
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: as possible for teams within the same conference. Now notice

1197
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: the last words there, within the same conference.

1198
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: Here's what we can't do.

1199
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: We cannot make make an SEC schedule equal to an

1200
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: ACC schedule. That's foolish. So, like he just said, let's

1201
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: not go there. I also noticed the second part a

1202
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: side from limiting the size of the conference. Well, coach, okay, respectfully,

1203
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to just glance over that, cause that's

1204
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: the answer. Cut down the size of the conferences. That's

1205
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: how you make the schedules more balanced. However, we're obviously

1206
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: not headed there, so we have to continue to participate

1207
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 1: in this charade with sixteen eighteen. Who knows twenty team

1208
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: conferences in the future. Simple change is change the date

1209
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: of the schedule release. How about that. I don't need

1210
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: to know my schedule two years in advance. I don't

1211
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: need to know my schedule ten months in advance. You

1212
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: know what I'd love to do, and when I'm college

1213
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: football commissioner, I'll push to do this is I would

1214
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: push to have our national championship, hopefully earlier than the

1215
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: third week of January, and then get.

1216
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: Out of the way for a second.

1217
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: And let the NFL finish their season, which is in

1218
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: mid February, and then in late February, what I would

1219
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: do is I would announce the schedule for that season,

1220
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: and head coaches wouldn't love it, because head coaches want

1221
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: as many things figured out for them as far in.

1222
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: Advance as possible. But you'll live.

1223
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 1: I pay you five more million dollars a year. You'll

1224
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: live if you find out that you're gonna play Vandy

1225
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: in Week three in February of that year instead of

1226
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: February three years prior. And what I would do there is,

1227
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: obviously I'd create a huge spectacle for college football in

1228
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: late February, which still has not grasped the collective concept

1229
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: of owning the calendar for a year instead of a

1230
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: few months.

1231
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: But number two, I would remove.

1232
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: The concept of just inverting the schedule year to year,

1233
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: like in the SEC, everybody you played last year, you

1234
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: play this year in conference play. It's just the locations flip.

1235
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: It's dumb to me. It's dumb scheduling. Third thing that

1236
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: I accomplish with releasing schedules the February of that season

1237
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: of that year is I insert a mechanism for balancing

1238
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: the schedule, And what I mean by that is you

1239
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: don't know everything you need to know about teams in

1240
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: February of that year, but you know a whole heck

1241
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: of a lot more about who may or may not

1242
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: be good than you did four years ago or three

1243
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: years ago.

1244
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: Whenever it is.

1245
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: Your computer spat the schedule out, because right now you

1246
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: can come up with whatever system you want. The league

1247
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: schedules are totally out of whack. You can define strength

1248
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: of schedule however you want. Look at Oklahoma in the SEC,

1249
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: we use our own system. Like I said, you can

1250
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: choose however you want to break this stuff down. Most

1251
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: of the time, we're going to have the same strength

1252
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: of schedule or roughly thereabouts. The way we do it

1253
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: is in tiers. And Oklahoma plays nine teams rated Tier

1254
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: one or Tier two. This year Tennessee plays four the

1255
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: same conference.

1256
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: It's stupid.

1257
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 1: In the Big Ten, Wisconsin plays eight teams we rate

1258
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: Tier three or higher. Indiana plays four. They're in the

1259
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: same conference.

1260
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: It's stupid.

1261
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: Now. I know my comment section because I know my

1262
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: audience well enough, and I know there's a solid ten

1263
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: percent of people who rage view this show just so

1264
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: they can rip it to pieces. One of you is

1265
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: gonna come at me and say, you can't know how

1266
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: good teams are gonna be in February, So how could

1267
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: you build a balanced schedule? Well, you couldn't totally build

1268
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: a balance schedule. I'm not suggesting you could. What I

1269
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: am suggesting is you could build a whole lot more

1270
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: balanced schedule across the league than you have right now.

1271
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: There's not a perfect world. There's not a perfect answer here.

1272
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: There is a worse one and a better one. Are

1273
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: you suggesting that my idea is garbage? Or the idea

1274
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: of waiting until that year to present the schedule so

1275
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: that you have a more balanced approach is not as

1276
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: good or fair as the current way it's being done,

1277
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: because that's really that's really the ab here.

1278
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 2: There is a C. Though there is a C. Give

1279
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: me your idea.

1280
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: How would you like to approach scheduling so that it's

1281
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: more fair and it's more balanced within a league. I'm

1282
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: not even talking about the playoff selection process. I'm talking

1283
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: about within the Big ten, just for the sake of

1284
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: balance in the Big ten, or in the SEC. Just

1285
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: for the sake of balance in the SEC. I'm telling

1286
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: you I think it's insane to just randomize the schedule.

1287
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: I think you need informed opinion in the scheduling making process,

1288
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: and I think it ought not be done until early

1289
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 1: in the year that the games will be played. That's

1290
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: what I think, and I I would love. First off,

1291
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,919
Speaker 1: I'd love to be on the committee. But secondly, i'd

1292
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: love that committee to define the value or the difficulty

1293
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: of opponents, just like we did, and then try and

1294
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Speaker 1: balance that schedule by schedule process out as much as

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Speaker 1: they can.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't be perfect. There's no system out there.

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Speaker 1: I got no system that could see Indiana twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four coming. They're gonna be surprises every year. You could

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Speaker 1: try as much as you possibly can to balance the schedule.

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Speaker 1: Someone's still gonna play the hardest, Someone's still gonna play

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Speaker 1: the easiest. That's a certainty in any system. I just

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Speaker 1: think it's a lot smarter to do it this way.

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Speaker 1: Would it upset some people?

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Speaker 2: Of course it would.

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Speaker 1: Coaches wouldn't like it because they want to know who

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Speaker 1: their opponents that year are going to be way before spring,

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Speaker 1: because they can structure their spring practice to start working

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Speaker 1: on opponents for the fall. You can still do that

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Speaker 1: you're just gonna have a lot less lead time on it.

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Speaker 1: You can still do that, but the net gain here

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Speaker 1: is I don't have disparity and strength the schedule like

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Speaker 1: I do with Oklahoma versus Tennessee right now or Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: versus Indiana. Part B is it'd be pretty entertaining. Get

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Speaker 1: to February, late February, you find out who you're gonna

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Speaker 1: play that fall, where you're gonna play them that fall,

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Speaker 1: And I mean, c is.

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Speaker 2: We just get smarter about the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: And then FanDuel could put out odds, and they could

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Speaker 1: It's over there right now now. I also did see

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Speaker 1: with the bracket reveals today. I also saw what was it?

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Speaker 1: I think one of those twelve fives?

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Speaker 2: Who what was it?

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Speaker 1: Colorado State? And who was it? Jesse?

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Speaker 2: Who was that twelve five? Colorado State and Memphis?

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Speaker 1: I think it was the twelve's favored by two and

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Speaker 1: a half points over the five. That's interesting. The same

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Speaker 1: person who theoretically replied there, that's the one who's gonna say, oh,

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Speaker 1: I guess we shouldn't even play the game. Then, I

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Speaker 1: just get people are so difficult, So intentionally intentional ignorance

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Speaker 1: is the worst ignorance, Like when you point out, when

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Speaker 1: you merely point out, hey man, this twelve is favored

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Speaker 1: against this five.

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Speaker 2: That's all you're doing. Believe it or not, that's all

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Speaker 2: you're doing.

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Speaker 1: You're just pointing it out because it's interesting, because it

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Speaker 1: flies in the face of convention. Right then, in the

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Speaker 1: very next breath, if you felt like you needed to

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Speaker 1: say it, you would say, But of course that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to play the game. Points spread's not

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Speaker 1: a score. Points spread is just point spread. Nope, that

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Speaker 1: guy's gonna be in the corner over there. The forever

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, I guess we just shouldn't even play the game.

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Speaker 1: Why do we play the games anymore? To determine a winner?

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Speaker 1: That's why we play the games, to determine a winner. Well,

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Speaker 1: you're over here talking about points spreads. I am this

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Speaker 1: You don't have to explain yourself when you're enemy is

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Speaker 1: trafficking in ignorance. Get out of the way and just

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Speaker 1: let him keep digging the hole.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yes, yes, I was talking.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of brackets, what a way to end the show? Here?

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Speaker 1: What a way to end the show? Johnny from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: He said, everyone is saying the playoff seeding needs to

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01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: be fixed. What's the argument in keeping it the way

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Speaker 1: it is? You know, this is a very very astutely

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01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: worded question. What Johnny's saying is, by his estimation, everybody

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Speaker 1: looked at the playoff seating this past year and said,

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Speaker 1: I think we need to fix this.

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Speaker 2: I am including Johnny. I looked at it and I said,

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Speaker 2: good for.

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Speaker 1: Boise, but there's no way they should have a first

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Speaker 1: round by just because they won the Mountain West. I

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01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: don't think Arizona State should have a bye just because

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01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: they won the Big Twelve. It ended up screwing organ

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Speaker 1: in the process. So I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: have looked at it, Johnny, as you said, and they've said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, you can keep the playoff whatever size, But

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Speaker 1: we shouldn't have these ridiculous baked in parameters for who

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01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: can and can't have a first round by And that's

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Speaker 1: the overwhelming sentiment right now. As far as I could tell,

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Speaker 1: an overwhelming super majority of college football fans would prefer

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01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: just straight seeding and if you want to bake in

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Speaker 1: guarantees for the conference champs whatever. Personally, I never even

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01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: favored that, but I get it. I will cave on

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01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: that you can have guarantees for your conference champs, but

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01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: certainly no guarantee that those are going to be the

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01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: only ones with first round byes. What Johnny is asking is, well,

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Speaker 1: why is this even debatable? Who's on the other side

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01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 1: of this? What's their point? I'm glad you asked, Johnny.

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01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: I took it to the streets Michael McDonald's style, and

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01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: I found out that there are a few points. By

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01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: the way, all that means is, I know seventies music

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01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: very well. It's an insult to call it yacht rock

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01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: the documentary people. It's not yacht rock to the people

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01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: who recorded it. But anyway, I know seventies music. That's

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01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: where the reference came from. But also I know some

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01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: people who feel this way. I know some people who

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01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: actually did like the way it was this past year,

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Speaker 1: and while I staunchly disagree with them, I was willing

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01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: to hear them out. And they said that they liked

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01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: that system because it really really crystallizes the value and

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01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: places importance on winning a conference title.

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Speaker 2: My response to that is, number one.

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Speaker 1: It's very arbitrary, but you don't care about that. Number Two,

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Speaker 1: this is twenty twenty five. To pretend like all conference

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01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: champs are created equal or are even in the same

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01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: ballpark in terms of value of accomplishment is ludicrous. You

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01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: got two major conferences and then everyone else in college

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01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 1: football right now.

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Speaker 2: So then their response is, well, we.

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Speaker 1: Don't care the SEC and the Big ten get their

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01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: way and everything else. There should still be a seat

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01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 1: at the table for the little guy. There should still

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Speaker 1: be some guarantee for the little guy in boom. Once

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01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: they say that, conversation's over because at that point they've

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Speaker 1: displayed they just.

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Speaker 2: Think a different way.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, there's room for all at the table of

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Speaker 1: college football. But when I hear someone say that, it

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Speaker 1: means they're not about logic based structure. They enjoy the chaos,

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01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: they enjoy the imbalance. They love disrupting, and if you're

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Speaker 1: that kind of person, you're that kind of person. But

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01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: that means you looked at Boise as well last year

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Speaker 1: and you said, yeah, winning the Mountain West probably isn't

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01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: the same level of accomplishment as being the runner up

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01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten or the SEC. But I don't care.

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01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: Everything after the butt is irrelevant, immunity. Everything following that

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01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 1: is just going to get a smile and a head

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01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: nod from me. But that's not a serious debate For

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01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: guys like me and you, Johnny, we look at it

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01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: and we say that's crazy. But you asked me how

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01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: anyone could disagree with this, that's how they disagree with it.

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01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 1: But to remind you what we're talking about here, we

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01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: have the way it played out in twenty twenty four.

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01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: If we were to go with the way that many

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01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: of us want to go, and that is to just

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01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: straight seed it one through twelve with your conference champs, Bakeden,

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01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: that's the order, and if you're number two or number four,

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01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: or number three or number one, you're gonna get a

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01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: first round by It don't matter if every one of

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01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 1: you are from the ACC or one of you's from

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01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: the SEC. And Big ten and Big twelve and eight,

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01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: whoever it is, you're gonna get the first round bys.

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Speaker 1: If we were to have seeded the tournament that way

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01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 1: this past year, think about how different life is for

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Speaker 1: Oregon as it was. Oregon gets the first round by

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01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: and then they end up playing Ohio State, the hottest team,

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: best team in the tournament. Well, Oregon's path would have

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Speaker 1: had them still with a first round by, but they

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01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 1: would have played the winner of Indiana Boise. They would

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Speaker 1: have been an overwhelming favorite against either. My guess is

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01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: they would have beaten either. They then would have moved

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01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,799
Speaker 1: on to play either Penn State, Notre Dame, or Clemson.

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Speaker 1: They would have outrostered all three of them as well.

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01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: No guarantee that they would have won, but they just

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01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: played Penn State and beat them. My guess is they'd

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01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: be a solid favorite against either Clemson or Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: And notice, you could tell me, hey, whether they lost

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01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: to Ohio State in round two or lost to him

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01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: in the championship game, they still would have.

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01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 2: Lost to him.

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01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 1: Maybe they would have, but there's a lot more that

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01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: could go wrong for Ohio State when they have to

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Speaker 1: play one to three games before they get to face you,

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Speaker 1: and one of them would have been against Texas and

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01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: the other one would have probably been against either Tennessee

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01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: or Georgia. You got a lot more opportunity to get

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01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: injured or just get beat and then if they beat

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Speaker 1: in the championship game.

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01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,480
Speaker 2: And they beat in the championship game, but Oregon essentially.

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01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: Got punished last year for being good and that shouldn't

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01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: be that way. So the big question, of course, as

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01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: we talk about this is will anything change here we are,

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01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: it is March sixteenth. We still don't know if there

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01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: will be rule changes for this upcoming year. We all

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01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: know it's going to get torched and we're going to

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01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 1: start from scratch in twenty twenty six and beyond. But

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01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 1: there is still an effort being made to change the parameters,

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01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: to change the rules for the playoff this upcoming year.

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01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: Will it happen?

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01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 2: I guess that's where we need to believe it.

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01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys so much. We'll be back Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: That's when we're going to have our second show for

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Speaker 1: the week.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have it Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: And that's about all I have for a direct college

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