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Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everyone to Week one of the NFL regular season

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I can go on. Man, it's

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Speaker 3: been a long off.

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Speaker 2: Season, so you're spent already.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it. I'm about to die just before

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Speaker 3: the bye week, before the bye week. I just need.

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Speaker 3: I need to nap, is what I need.

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Speaker 2: No, we don't have a bye week for a while, dude.

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Speaker 2: It's like we don't need thirteen or something.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, but like day after tomorrow games, let's go,

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Speaker 3: we're going. So we do this. We're I got some

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Speaker 3: I got Saber season tickets, and a couple of guys

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Speaker 3: share them with me. They want, you know what, A

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Speaker 3: couple three guys want three games. So we get together

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Speaker 3: and draft our games. And you got to do it

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Speaker 3: on Thursday night for you know, Thursday night football. We'll

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Speaker 3: be watching the game and drafting hockey games. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a nice I love that, man, m what goals

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Speaker 3: that time of the year. Yeah, man, that's awesome. Saved

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Speaker 3: is gonna be kicking back in with a completely different

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Speaker 3: vibe about them and this and the Bills kick it

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Speaker 3: off Monday Night football. And I'll say this, the Bills

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Speaker 3: game on Monday Night is going to be the best

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Speaker 3: game of the week schedule, of the entire weekend this weekend.

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Speaker 2: You like it even better than the kickoff game with

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs and the everybody's favorite team, clean clue you in.

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Speaker 3: The Lions are gonna get their heads handed to them.

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Speaker 3: The Lions are gonna go in there and it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be it's gonna be the biggest, fattest belly flop of

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Speaker 3: the entire schedule. That is a wow mistake. Now, that

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Speaker 3: is the statement both the first game of.

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Speaker 2: The series, twenty point beat down.

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Speaker 3: The Lions are gonna be embarrassed. They have no chance.

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Speaker 3: They're in a crap They're in a kruddy division. They're

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Speaker 3: the worst team in a creuddy division. They got a

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Speaker 3: little bit of juice from a from a head coach

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Speaker 3: who's got some energy. Ben Johnson, Yeah, okay, all of that.

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff is still their quarterback. They go yeah, They're

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Speaker 3: gonna run the air. They gonna no, no, their defense

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Speaker 3: is gonna come out all refurbished from being poor. Land

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Speaker 3: Pat Mahomes is gonna dump a five gallon gas. That

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Speaker 3: can't get a five gallon can of gas on their

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Speaker 3: head and light them and throw them and then throw

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Speaker 3: them in a dumpster. Okay, they that game is gonna

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Speaker 3: be the worst game of the weekend, and the Bill's

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Speaker 3: just gonna be the best.

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Speaker 2: We will get into that in just a second Labor

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Speaker 2: Day weekend. Did did you get up to the ty

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Speaker 2: Cats game? Yes?

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Speaker 3: I did. I was in Canada. I was in Hamilton,

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Speaker 3: Yester the Hammer. I was in the Hammer yesterday watching

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Speaker 3: the ty Cats get their heads handed too by the argos.

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Speaker 3: Chad Kelly lit them up. Yeah, they're playing good up there.

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Speaker 3: So I got a You know, my son Luke played

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Speaker 3: up there for seven years now. He's their radio analyst

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Speaker 3: for the Handlton Time. Right, So we go up and

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Speaker 3: we went to the game. We hadn't been there since

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Speaker 3: he'd finished playing in nineteen nineteen, was his last year.

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Speaker 3: It was so fun, Like is a sellout crowd like

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Speaker 3: twenty five three point fifty or something like that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: High scoring game or just lopsided.

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Speaker 3: It was at one point late it was like thirty

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Speaker 3: I think that's how it ended. Thirty one twenty one. Awesome,

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Speaker 3: but it was only it was like one hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty six degrees in that joint. We were actually in

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Speaker 3: the shade was thank goodness, Yeah, we were, because I'm

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Speaker 3: telling you it was. It was fh Yeah, we.

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Speaker 2: Were melting out on a soccer field in Massachusetts over

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Speaker 2: the weekend.

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Speaker 3: How did that go?

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Speaker 2: I went pretty well, all things considered. Yeah, my daughter's

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Speaker 2: team one one lost one. It was what it was.

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Speaker 2: Craziest thing about the weekend was and I had kind

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Speaker 2: of out of my own sick preparation and getting ready

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Speaker 2: for games, I had printed out the roster for my

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Speaker 2: daughter's team because this is, you know, this is the

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Speaker 2: know all the players so well.

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Speaker 3: So you watch them on along the Line or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, streaming that kind of stuff because it's too far away,

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Speaker 2: look at the roster and I see my daughter's name

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Speaker 2: and her number is my old jersey number. My daughter

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Speaker 2: picked my old jersey number she wear that she wanted

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Speaker 2: to do it as a surprise, and I ruined it

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Speaker 2: because I printed out the roster before we left the house.

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Speaker 2: Did you call her and tell her before?

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Speaker 3: So you're wearing my number? Huh?

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Speaker 2: I think my wife texted her included her and she's like, dad,

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Speaker 2: got it. Leave it to dad to be over prepared

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Speaker 2: for a soccer game.

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 3: Is that your number?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 3: Is it her number? Now?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. She's still playing, so I guess

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Speaker 2: it's hers now. Yeah, I'm not. I mean, I'm semi retired. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They didn't. Yeah, listen, bro, they don't. It was cool though.

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Speaker 3: They don't retire people like you and me, Jersey.

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Speaker 2: They just wash them, that's right, so and hand them

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Speaker 2: to somebody else and hand them to somebody. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: that was really the sweet of her to do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was sweet of her to do that.

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Speaker 3: So that's nice.

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Speaker 2: That was nice.

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Speaker 3: That means something to you. It was the number?

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Speaker 2: Was it eighteen?

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Speaker 2: Her number was six, So to see that was surprising

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Speaker 2: and pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: So I very nice.

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Speaker 2: That was very nice for her to do that.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of appreciated. And they won one lost one week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they won on Sunday five nothing lost, a tough

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Speaker 2: It was good to kind of do a little road

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Speaker 3: We had all we had the whole kid.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you had Graham Camp.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Graham Camp was at the house this weekend. And

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Speaker 3: we say the best part of the day, yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I said, I wait for you or for them? No

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Speaker 3: thought that was funny. They said, what was your worst

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Speaker 3: because I didn't sleep. We didn't sleep. Well, we sleep outside, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do the tenth thing.

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Speaker 3: And well we weren't in a we have a we

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Speaker 3: that was the low part of my days, having me

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Speaker 3: they they thought that was hilarious. They asked me, actually

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Speaker 2: We do find that your best audience when you know

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Speaker 3: My best audience for my jokes is me.

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Speaker 2: I get them, well you said them, laughing at you.

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Speaker 3: I get my jokes all the time. I crack myself up.

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Speaker 3: I'm hilarious, but I don't know if anybody else thinks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my best audience is when I'm talking to myself.

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Speaker 2: How often does that happen? More than more than I'd

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Speaker 2: out there. Some Bills news to pass along to you.

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Speaker 2: According to our good friend Field Yates from ESPN, the

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Speaker 2: Bills have restructured the contracts of Ryan Bates and Taron Johnson,

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Speaker 2: creating about four and a half million in cap space

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Speaker 2: for the bills in twenty twenty three. People speculating, oh

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Speaker 2: what does this mean? Oh, this con means something coming.

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Speaker 2: So Taron Johnson basically converts almost four million of his

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Speaker 2: void yer on there. He clears two point six to two.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Bates converts two point eight two of his salary

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Speaker 2: into a bonus, and that basically clears one point eight eight.

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Speaker 2: So together they're four and a half. But if you

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Speaker 2: remember Steve back in June, when Brandon Bean spoke at

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Speaker 2: the close of June mini camp, he said the following

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Speaker 2: when he was asked about the Bills cap situation, and

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Speaker 2: I quote, I think we're just around over four million.

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Speaker 2: But that's the top fifty one players. Without going through

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Speaker 2: doing some projections, I'm gonna guess with adding Leonard Floyd,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be over three to five million somewhere in there.

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Speaker 2: I haven't done that in the last day, but somewhere

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Speaker 2: in there. So projecting how we would cut and no injuries,

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Speaker 2: we're still going to have to do some moves at

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Speaker 2: some point to create more cap room. So even though

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Speaker 2: a little over four million, we really don't. And just

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Speaker 2: knowing who we think has the best chance to make

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Speaker 2: I would say it's gonna be somewhere between three and

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Speaker 2: five million. So he told us back in June this

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Speaker 2: was coming here. It is so cost of doing business,

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Speaker 2: quite literally. But they cleared the cash space they needed,

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Speaker 2: so they're.

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Speaker 3: Under so they can they can absorb injuries and guys

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, you gotta have you gotta have

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Speaker 3: some some slack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they may need even a little more than that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, because he estimated they were three to five over,

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Speaker 2: they've saved four and a half. I mean, at best

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Speaker 3: to he couched by saying we could be, that we

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Speaker 3: It was middle of the road Denver. The Patriot offense

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a billowing tower of black smoke coming

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Speaker 3: that I think is a mix. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, let them keep stepping in it. I guess

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Speaker 2: But last year they were fourth total, the number four

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Speaker 3: They were fourth in yards per play, eighth in yards

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Speaker 3: I was going to Northwestern University at the time, which

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Speaker 3: He says he Buddy just did not care. He would

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Speaker 3: They were, you know, with Leslie and Leslie Fraser and

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Speaker 3: he had the guys in the back end. They were

439
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Speaker 3: they were an unbelievable group, an unbelievable group of guys. Yeah,

440
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Speaker 3: and they you know, they So you're talking and we're

441
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Speaker 3: sitting here, Listen, we're sitting here almost forty years after

442
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Speaker 3: the fact, and we can name those players. Yeah, that's

443
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Speaker 3: I ain't gonna be doing that with the Jets, Okay,

444
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Speaker 3: fair enough, not in forty years anyway. And I'll be

445
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Speaker 3: one hundred. Yeah, I'll be one hundred back in my day.

446
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 3: I won't be able to name I won't be able

447
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Speaker 3: to name the twenty twenty three Jet defender. That's right,

448
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure. But they're gonna be good. I know that.

449
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Speaker 2: Yeah. In other NFL news, defensive end Nick Bosa, reigning

450
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Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year, still absent from the forty

451
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Speaker 2: nine Ers and defensive tackle Chris Jones, who finished third

452
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Speaker 2: in Defensive Player of the Year voting as a member

453
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Speaker 2: of the Chiefs. Not with the Chiefs has not reported yet.

454
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Speaker 2: It's it's becoming one of the bigger stories in the

455
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Speaker 2: league heading into real games. Chris Jones is already forfeited

456
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Speaker 2: over two million dollars and fines by being absent and

457
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Speaker 2: under contract. Bosa wants a new deal as well. It's

458
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Speaker 2: gonna be very interesting because I mean, as it looks

459
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Speaker 2: right now, Steve Jones is not playing Thursday. Is he

460
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Speaker 2: gonna sign tomorrow and they're gonna roll him out on

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Speaker 2: the field. No, he's not playing Thursday. It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Neither's Bosa. I mean that Bosa's not gonna I don't

463
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Speaker 3: think Boso get ready to play either, unless he comes

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Speaker 3: in maybe tomorrow and they get evaluated. Maybe he's up

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Speaker 3: to speed. But Bosa is one of those guys. He

466
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Speaker 3: comes in all of a sudden, he snaps a hammy

467
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Speaker 3: in Thursday's practice. Now he's out for four weeks too anyway, Right,

468
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Speaker 3: So yeah, Chris Jones, I think this thing is he

469
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Speaker 3: said it, and you gotta believe him. He will come

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Speaker 3: back Week eight. He'll get a crued for his contract.

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Speaker 3: Will click click in, He'll pay the fine. He'll play

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Speaker 3: for free for whatever nine games left to the season

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Speaker 3: he'll play. It won't be for free, but you'll get

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Speaker 3: half his salary.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember a couple of years ago Melvin Gordon

476
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Speaker 2: when he was with the Broncos, he held out for

477
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Speaker 2: the first four games, and then he came back and

478
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: he was asked about it by the media and he

479
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: admitted it was a mistake. So I regret sitting out

480
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Speaker 2: the four games because you're never getting that money back.

481
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Speaker 3: That's all gone. It's all gone, never getting.

482
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Speaker 2: It back, especially as a running back.

483
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Speaker 3: Same thing that happened with the Pittsburgh running back of

484
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Speaker 3: le Bell. He you can go back and lodgically work

485
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Speaker 3: it out where he left fifteen million dollars on the

486
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Speaker 3: table as to how it all worked out. But these

487
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Speaker 3: guys take it personal and they prove it with acts

488
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Speaker 3: like this that it's not about the money. It's about

489
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Speaker 3: being respected and getting and getting what you should deserve

490
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Speaker 3: and being willing to sacrifice, you know, and and and

491
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Speaker 3: use whatever leverage you have, even if it's even if

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Speaker 3: it's self.

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Speaker 2: Harm, well it's it's hurting him in a wallet.

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Speaker 3: You got to do it because they take it personally,

495
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Speaker 3: so you know, in that regard, you kind of have

496
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Speaker 3: to tip your hat to him and say, okay, bro,

497
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 3: it's an expensive statement to make, but you go ahead

498
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Speaker 3: and make it. But that's what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm really curious to see how long this stretches, if

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Speaker 2: you know, because you know the Chiefs, they have a

501
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Speaker 2: number and they're not moving off it. And evidence of

502
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Speaker 2: that was what they did with Tyreek Hill last year.

503
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Speaker 2: So if they don't think he's worth thirty million a year,

504
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Speaker 2: I mean I think Tyreek was worth thirty million a year.

505
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Speaker 2: I can't imagine they think Chris Jones is either yeah

506
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Speaker 2: and so and this just to you think they're moving.

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Speaker 3: This just in they let Tyreek walk and they won

508
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Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. You think Chris Jones tips the scale

509
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Speaker 3: the other direction?

510
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Speaker 2: I don't know that. I mean you got to wonder

511
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Speaker 2: when when is when is when are you stripping the

512
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Speaker 2: roster of too much talent? You know what I mean?

513
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Speaker 3: Like I get it. I mean Pat Mahomes can cover

514
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Speaker 3: up a lot a lot of mistakes, a lot of

515
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: short's he's the greater, he's the great racer. You know,

516
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: nobody can make a mistake so big that he can't

517
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Speaker 3: overcome it. And maybe they just believe they can do it. Plus,

518
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Speaker 3: you know, they're not totally bereft of offensive weapons.

519
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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: They they lost Tyreek, but they got guys out there

521
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Speaker 3: that can really play. They got some young guys that

522
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Speaker 3: showed some stuff last year. They won a world championship.

523
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Speaker 2: Don't have anybody at defensive tackle like him though, right,

524
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: they just don't.

525
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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of teams don't. But we've said and

526
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Speaker 3: I see, and here's where Chris Jones is coming from,

527
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: and Nick Bosa. This is the year and the marketplace

528
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: is ripe for a defensive tackles to get paid. There's

529
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: a handful of them that got record breaking deals and

530
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: it's time. You know, you got to hit it while

531
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Speaker 3: it's right. You can't settle if you if your career

532
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Speaker 3: is only so long.

533
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Speaker 2: And I think that's why he's willing to sacrifice two

534
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Speaker 2: million dollars for the sake of making ten million more

535
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Speaker 2: per year. That's I think he's making twenty per now.

536
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: He wants thirty. So I think until he gets to

537
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Speaker 2: that ten million dollar figure in terms of losses. He's

538
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Speaker 2: holding out, Yeah, until he gets what he wants, it'll

539
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Speaker 2: be I'm really interested to see where this goes and

540
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Speaker 2: how much of a distraction it creates for that Chiefs

541
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Speaker 2: team as well. This is a well like guy in

542
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Speaker 2: the locker room.

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Speaker 3: You know, here's the thing too, he's holding out, not

544
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 3: holding in, so he's not there, so he's not a restriction. Yeah,

545
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 3: it's not a distraction in that way.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the media is gonna keep asking what

547
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Speaker 2: happens if they beat they beat the Detroit Lions on

548
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Speaker 2: Thursday night, forty five, forty four. You don't think anybody,

549
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: every media members is gonna be in that locker room

550
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: after the game. Hey, do you think it would have

551
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: been easier if you had Chris Jones with you? That

552
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: kind of thing? You know, is it fair to have

553
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: Mahomes put the cape on to score forty five points

554
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: to win you a game and not have one of

555
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: your best Like those kinds of questions are gonna be

556
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: asked every week?

557
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: Then it will, and but let's face it, we don't

558
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: know what's going to happen, and that's a pretty specific

559
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 3: scenario that's got happened before that this all comes to wash.

560
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 3: So I think the Chiefs are willing to say listen

561
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: unless it is like painfully obvious that we need the

562
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 3: guy we're gonna roll. Yeah, and you know if okay,

563
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 3: so that if we beat the Lions or get beat

564
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 3: by the Lions like fifty five fifty one or fifty

565
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 3: one to fifty five, whatever, either lose or it's going

566
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: to be a problem for us. We can't let those

567
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 3: jokers score, you know, forty points on us and think

568
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 3: act like Chris Jones doesn't make a difference. I'm fascinated

569
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Speaker 3: to see where that's That's a fascinating aspect of this

570
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: whole thing, because that the Chiefs have always been you know,

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00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: we're gonna outscore you kind of and without a guy

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Speaker 3: who is like just gives them some semblance of respect

573
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Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball not there.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see the difference it makes.

575
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Speaker 3: It's hard for Pat Mahomes to help that side of

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00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: the ball when he's not playing on that side of

577
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: the ball, you know what I mean. I mean it

578
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: does he would get some benefit from it, because mahomee

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00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: they might start to have to you know, ball control

580
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: this a little bit more instead a big play it,

581
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

582
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the old Indianapolis Colt style. Yeah, Payton Manning, hold

583
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: onto the ball, run the play clock down to one

584
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: on every snap. That kind of right.

585
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then you know, score, be efficient. Score on

586
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Speaker 3: at least two thirds of your possessions. Maybe more than that.

587
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: It might you might be up to like seventy five.

588
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: You might be. Yeah, you might be able to count

589
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: like like you either have to have one possession that

590
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: you don't score on or two and that's all you're

591
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Speaker 3: allowed for the entire game.

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Speaker 2: as we mentioned, the current poll right now for our

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Speaker 2: listeners and viewers is what type of game are you

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Speaker 2: expecting Monday night against the Jets? And almost two thirds

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Speaker 2: of you have said you are expecting a tight game throughout.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of picking a tight game throughout, I took a

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Speaker 2: listing Steve of let me see one, two, three, four, five,

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Speaker 2: six seven ten NFL Network analysts who picked the Bills

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Speaker 2: Jets game for Monday Night, and here are their picks.

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Speaker 2: You ready for the rundown?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah picks Jets twenty eight to twenty seven. Colleen

630
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: Wolf picks the Bills thirty two thirty. Adam Rank picks

631
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: the Jets twenty nine twenty eight. M Grant not sure

632
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: who that is picks the Bills twenty six twenty one.

633
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: Mark Sessler picks the Jets twenty seven fourteen. We should

634
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: know that he is a Jets fan. Maurice Jones Drew

635
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: Jets twenty six twenty three. G Gordon Bills twenty four

636
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: to twenty, Nick Shook Bills twenty seven twenty three, Eric

637
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: Edholm Bills twenty four twenty one, and Kevin Patra Jets

638
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty What is your what's your takeaway

639
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: from those picks that I.

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00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: Five and five.

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00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's even Steve.

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00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a great game. I'm telling you, it's.

643
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 2: Even Stephen Vegas agrees. The line last week was Bills

644
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 2: get giving two and a half. It's down to one

645
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: and a half, which will show you where the money's going, right.

646
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: But of all of the pick Steve that I just

647
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Speaker 2: rattled off to ten.

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00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: Money going where, if it's going dropping, where's where? Does

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00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: that mean the money's going It's going on the bills?

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00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: R Yeah, it's going on the Bills, Yeah, Bills. But listen,

651
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Speaker 3: only know this.

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Speaker 2: Only one of those ten picks, Steve that I gave

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Speaker 2: you picked a final with a point spread of more

654
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: than five points. Yeah, and then one guy and that

655
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: was the Jets fan. Yeah, twenty seven to fourteen, Mark Sessler.

656
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: Here's everyone else's prediction, Steve, five points or less on

657
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: the score differential, including two one point games and two

658
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: to two point games. Three of those four, however, picked

659
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: the Jets in a close one.

660
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: You ain't running off and leaving the Bills. Yeah, that's

661
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: just that's that's it. The Bills don't lose last year.

662
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: The Bills don't lose by double digits. They just don't

663
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: not under of Sean McDermott. Nope, you can go back

664
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: and pick a handful here and there, particularly early in

665
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: his reer. They don't each of the last two seasons,

666
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: they they just you just don't run off and leave

667
00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: this team.

668
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: I think the Cold Game is one of the only

669
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: when Jonathan Taylor ran all over them right two years ago.

670
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 2: That's right, a lopsided game. There might be another game

671
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: in there where they lost by Dutch tragets. But there's

672
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 2: like one or two a year.

673
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's well, not even two.

674
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: Aye, yeah, not even two.

675
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: So they're it's gonna be close if even if the

676
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 3: Bills are not ahead, because you just they're just too

677
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 3: hard to extend the lead on. So yeah, I'm and

678
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: the Jets are a hard team for Buffalo matchup with.

679
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 3: They proved that last year in both matchups. But I

680
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: hate saying like this last year's last year. I mean,

681
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 3: you got to show up and do it. I'm there's

682
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 3: a lot of question marks we don't have. We don't know.

683
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: You can say what you want about the Bills, you know,

684
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: middle linebacker or whatever the Bills. You know, We've gone

685
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 3: over and over and over. Bills are better almost at

686
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: every position group except middle linebacker, and they still got

687
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: an All Pro at the other one.

688
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: The Jets lost the starting linebacker and free agency. Also,

689
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: they was Kwan Alexander the Jets. Nothing.

690
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: The Jets, I don't know if they're better at their

691
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: offensive line or at wide receiver, but they got a

692
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: good group anyway. They're better at quarterback, no question, but

693
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: it's not This league has never been one about just

694
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: plug it in and go just like you did last year.

695
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: It's a whole new group on both sides, on Bills

696
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 3: and the Jets. So there's a lot we don't know.

697
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: I will say I think there is some measure of

698
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: an advantage that Buffalo is getting the Jets in Week

699
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: one because their turnover and all that has changed for

700
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: the Jets I think is far greater than what has

701
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 2: changed for the Bills. And so because of that, having

702
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: it all lined up and operating like a well oiled machine,

703
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: I think is a heavier li for the Jets in

704
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: Week one, then it'll be in say week six.

705
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: That's fair enough, that's fair to assume. But the key

706
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 3: change has been to a guy who's running a system

707
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 3: he's very familiar with, and he's a veteran, so he's

708
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: not going to get flustered by any of this, and

709
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: he'll be able to like Pat Mahomes and Josh and

710
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 3: Herbert and Burrow. He'll smooth over the rough spots with

711
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: a quarterback, good quarterback play. So, but you're right there,

712
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some adjustment there for the jesse of

713
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: getting everything you know lined up.

714
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me let me fire this off at you.

715
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: Is there any inherent edge for the Bills defense knowing

716
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 2: that they played a version of this offensive scheme last

717
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: year when they played the Packers and Aaron Rodgers and

718
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: Randall Cobb and Alan Lazard.

719
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, some a lot of turnover. But

720
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: you know it's vice versus true too. They know us

721
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: the Bills. Or is it gonna look the same with

722
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: McDermott calling it. Yeah, that's the defense, you're right, U.

723
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: And even the offense now with some new faces with

724
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: new weapons that the Jets aren't as familiar with, and

725
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 3: James Cook and Dalton Kincaid and Surefield in the Bill's

726
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: uniform rather than Dolphin uniform, there's you know, so there's

727
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: you can look at both sides and say there's some familiarity,

728
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: but you know, and the thing the problem with playing

729
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: the Bills is you can call the perfect defense and

730
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 3: Josh still makes you pay. I mean Vic Fangio when

731
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 3: he was with Denver's their head coach.

732
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: I know, I know exactly where you were going.

733
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 3: I mean he calls his play and it's like got

734
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: him out.

735
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: Touchdown, solid experience. It's that too.

736
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: It's yes, Francis Robert sala is looking over there like

737
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 3: a gunfighter who's out of bullets. I mean, he's over

738
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: there going to He's like sitting there just like a

739
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: dead thousand yard stare looking at the field going, I

740
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: ain't got nothing, I got nothing. Yeah, Fan shows the

741
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: same thing. He's over there with his with his play

742
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 3: sheet in his hand, checking for rain. He's like, are

743
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: you kidding me? You got the guy dead to rights

744
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: and he's like, what are we doing here? And you

745
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 3: know Josh is scampering nineteen yards untouched through an open

746
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: field and dancing in the end zone. Or he throws

747
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: a rope. In that Denver game, he throws a rope

748
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: to some guy named Kumero.

749
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: Or even better, and I sort of a touchdown and

750
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: they get a penalty and it gets called back and

751
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: then he runs it in again.

752
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: Take they score like four times they scored.

753
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: I remember that he was audibly heard on the screen

754
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: saying how many times do we have to score?

755
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 3: Right? They score like three out of the next four plays,

756
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: two of them get called back and they finally score.

757
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: The touchdown is unbelievable. Is a beatdown? Yeah, So that's

758
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: the thing. You get these guys, you know, you get

759
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 3: a guy like Rodgers. Yeah, there'll be some some rough

760
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 3: patches stuff, but Aaron will make a throw or he'll

761
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: make an adjustment, or he'll make it, you know, an audible,

762
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: and he'll he'll save him. That's what Zach Wilson and

763
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: that other joker that the Bill's played against so I

764
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: can't remember his name, the other quarterback for the Mike White, Yeah,

765
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: he just they'll just outplay those guys. So that's what

766
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 3: this whole thing comes down to. I think in this game,

767
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: how big a difference and I think for Bills fans,

768
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: how big a difference will Josh have to make, you know,

769
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: against a good Jet defense, And how much of a

770
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: difference will Aaron Rodgers make for that for that offense. So,

771
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: because if Josh gets a point where his weapons are like,

772
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: Digs is running wild, Davis is catching balls, h James

773
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: Cook is going crazy, Knocks and Kincaid are like this

774
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 3: huge surprise. So all that stuff means Josh can stand

775
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: back there and just kind of deliver and all of

776
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 3: a sudden he doesn't have to be this, you know,

777
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: Superman and like Aaron Rodgers has always been. That's a

778
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 3: big intriguing part about this game because both these guys.

779
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you can call like I said, you can

780
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: call the perfect defense he makes Rogers makes a throw,

781
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: or Josh just like goes into a phone booth and

782
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 3: comes out wearing a cape.

783
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones. Let's see what you think.

784
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: We go to Scott in Williamsville to lead us off today.

785
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: What do you have for a Scott?

786
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 5: Hi, thanks for taking my call.

787
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 3: Sure.

788
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 5: First off, Steve, I don't know about your prediction on

789
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 5: Thursday night because I still remember your prediction last what

790
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 5: I say?

791
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: What did I say?

792
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 6: He said?

793
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 5: He said the Bears are going to get blown out

794
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 5: if you recall it was last year. But maybe it

795
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 5: doesn't come.

796
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 3: To mind Christmas Eve game, Christmas Eve game, you got me. Yeah,

797
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 3: But anyways, I have zero chance.

798
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 5: Listen. I just can't believe all the bashing you guys

799
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 5: have for the Jets. I mean, it's just unbelieva. You

800
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 5: talk about an ultimate hight train. How about the last

801
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 5: two years and eight months. You have the Bills fans

802
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 5: building the Lombardi Trophy case here and you beat Let's

803
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 5: get it right, a rookie quarterback in mac Jones at

804
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 5: home and a third string rookie quarterback barely at home.

805
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 5: You're lost to Zach Wilson last year, Josh through two

806
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 5: of the ugliest interceptions I've ever seen, and finished the

807
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 5: year by the way sixty three percent passing completion and

808
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 5: fourteen interceptions. I mean, this team is on a pedestal

809
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 5: and they've won two wildcard games, and I just can't

810
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 5: understand it. I mean, I travel all over the country

811
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 5: and no one talks about the Bills that well. I mean,

812
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 5: it seems like different tiers of Cincy KC. And then

813
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 5: it's Miami and the Jets and the Jaguars, and Baltimore's

814
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 5: coming up, and Pittsburgh looks good and Deshaun's gonna have

815
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 5: a full season. I just don't understand. If the Bills,

816
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 5: god forbid, they would have lost to Cincy, I believe

817
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 5: they probably would have played Jacksonville. And I don't even

818
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 5: think they could passed the wildcard games. So and you

819
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 5: just can't have you know, it's taboo to say, but

820
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 5: you can't continually miss and I mean continually on first, second,

821
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 5: and third with elam is a first and fourth cook,

822
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 5: Terrell Bernard, Boogie Bash and Spencer Brown, Ajfvanessa, Zach muss At,

823
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 5: Oliver Cody Ford, Devin Singletary. If half those guys were

824
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 5: productive on the team, then yeah, the Bills have a

825
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 5: great team. But Brandon, you know he's missed. I'm four

826
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 5: years and that the story hasn't been written. But these

827
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 5: guys are producing like first seconds and thirds, and I

828
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 5: just you know, Steve, you're old enough to know. The

829
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 5: best thing that ever happened to Bruce Smith was Cornelie's

830
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 5: Spinna come through that door. And the best thing that

831
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 5: ever happened to Alexander mcgilney was Pat la Fontaine. I

832
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 5: think I think the Bills are going to find out

833
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 5: what Tremaine Edmans I mean, I heard you speak last week, Tremaine.

834
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 5: You got Tremaine Edmunds one hundred plus tackles and you

835
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 5: got Ed Oliver at two and a half sacks for

836
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 5: essentially the same money. I can't understand that. But and

837
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty million into defensive end now with

838
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 5: two busted up knees and thirty four years old, hoping

839
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 5: he comes back for Week five. But those are just

840
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 5: my comments. I guess we shall see. But the two

841
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 5: and a half year talk is finally over, and we'll

842
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 5: see what the season brings.

843
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, Scott all over the map. I don't

844
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: think it's two and a half years. It was last year.

845
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: The hype didn't start until von Miller acquisition happened, So

846
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about.

847
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: And a half thirteen second game and exactly the same

848
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 3: effect that the thirteen second second game had in reverse

849
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 3: is what the Cincinnati game at the end of the

850
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 3: last year had for the Bills this season. If it's

851
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: that simple, it's recency biased. The Bills weren't weren't any

852
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,959
Speaker 3: better or worse had they gotten beat by a full

853
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: you know, a field goal or a whatever in the

854
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: thirteen second game. They weren't even better or worse. If

855
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: they'd won that game, then they were losing it. They're

856
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: the same guys. The game just happens differently. But because

857
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: you're losing a thirteen second, you're having this and Josh

858
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 3: looked unstoppable, Diggs looked unstopable. Gave Davis had four touchdowns.

859
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, they're they're coming on, they're the best.

860
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: And I got this too. I was talking to Brown

861
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: in this are you kidding me? All the rankings, all

862
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 3: these listening. Here's how it's gonna go this year. Here's

863
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 3: how our rankings go. The Chiefs are the best, then

864
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: the Eagles, and then it's Cincinnati, Buffalo, Buffalo, Cincinnati and

865
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: all these other teams. Jack oh, no.

866
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: Oh, he doesn't even have him in the top eight.

867
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, So it's like, dude, all they're doing is

868
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Speaker 3: looking at the last couple of games the last season

869
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Speaker 3: and making all of their calls and none of it.

870
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Speaker 3: Do you know how hard it is? It's it has

871
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Speaker 3: been twenty years since anybody repeated his World champions Yeah, but.

872
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Speaker 2: You can't have your cake and eat it too. So

873
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: if Scott's gonna say the Bills aren't even the eighth

874
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: best team in the AFC, I mean, he rattled off

875
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Speaker 2: seven teams never mentioned the Bills. That's his opinion. You're

876
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 2: entitled to it. But if you're going to knock the

877
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: Bills for not winning enough playoff games and only winning

878
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: two wild card games the last two postseasons. You can't

879
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: prop up the Jets and make I'm the fifth best

880
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: team in the league when they haven't even been to

881
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: the playoffs in twelve years. You can't have it both ways.

882
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.

883
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: Come on with the I mean, I want to make

884
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Speaker 2: a case, make a case.

885
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 3: And I'll say this too, I mean the Yeah, Okay,

886
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: we gotta I gotta break. But you're right, you can't

887
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: have it both ways. If you're gonna pump the Bills

888
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: up like they only they only win one playoff game

889
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 3: a year. Yeah, name me the number of teams who

890
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: have done that over the as long as period as

891
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: the Bills have.

892
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: And the Bills and the Chiefs are the only two

893
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: teams in the league with at least ten victories each

894
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: of the last three seasons. So, I mean, I don't

895
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: know what to tell you. You're a good team. Sorry,

896
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I hate to disappoint.

897
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Speaker 3: I'll say this too. You think Brandon Bean is missing

898
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 3: on all these draft picks? Oh my gosh, Boogie Basham

899
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Speaker 3: and kye them all the name and name and name name.

900
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Speaker 3: I just would challenge you go look at other teams

901
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 3: draft picks. Just go look at other teams draft picks

902
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Speaker 3: and see how many times they've missed break time.

903
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Speaker 2: quick and squeeze in Mark in West Seneca. What do

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Speaker 2: you got for us? Mark?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, fire be it from me to have to

917
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Speaker 8: defend Brandon Bean's record, But I will try and just

918
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Speaker 8: a couple of quick points and then any comment about

919
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Speaker 8: the game. First of all, Brandon Bean's job is more

920
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Speaker 8: all encompassed sing than just draft picks, the way he

921
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Speaker 8: runs the organization, how he brings stability, how he keeps

922
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Speaker 8: coaches coming in the door. When we leave guys, we

923
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Speaker 8: lose guys, so forth, and so on. Secondly, his draft picks.

924
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Speaker 8: He's been living in the late first round forever, and

925
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Speaker 8: some of those picks that he mentioned were second round picks.

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Speaker 8: Granted they did not turn it into productive guys. But

927
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Speaker 8: let's look at records of teams who are living down

928
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Speaker 8: there from pick twenty five and on in the first

929
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Speaker 8: round and see how many great stars have been brought

930
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Speaker 8: out of the college ranks. Down at that level, it's

931
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Speaker 8: a lot easier to pick where the Jets have been

932
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Speaker 8: picking in the top five, top ten year after year,

933
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Speaker 8: to identify blue chip talent and then possibly get it.

934
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Speaker 8: And then, last and not least, the wall he identified

935
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Speaker 8: Josh Allen. He decided that was the guy in the

936
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Speaker 8: draft where there was quote unquote four or five blue

937
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Speaker 8: chip quarterbacks. He decided he was the guy, and then

938
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Speaker 8: he went and got him. He didn't wait for him

939
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Speaker 8: to fall into his lap. So just that move alone

940
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Speaker 8: skyrocketed the Bills into the top echelon of the league.

941
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Speaker 8: And we'll keep us there for years. So beyond that,

942
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Speaker 8: I'm sure I could go into more things, but I'm

943
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Speaker 8: gonna leave it at that. About the game real quick.

944
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Speaker 8: If the Bills are going to win this game, I

945
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 8: think two things have to happen. I think, first of all,

946
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Speaker 8: I believe James Cook has to run for about eighty

947
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Speaker 8: yards at least or in net range. And then secondly,

948
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Speaker 8: I believe Dalton, Kin, Kaid and Hardy have to own

949
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Speaker 8: and take advantage of the middle of the field and

950
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Speaker 8: own their linebackers because if we can do that, we

951
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 8: can get good, easy first downs, and Hardy can get

952
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Speaker 8: extra yards when he leaves these guys in the dust

953
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Speaker 8: when he breaks out of his routes. So those are

954
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Speaker 8: my comments, all right.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Mark, appreciate it. Yeah. I mean, if there is

956
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Speaker 2: a perceived vulnerability of the Jets defense, it is their

957
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Speaker 2: linebackers in coverage, especially knowing they lost their best athlete

958
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Speaker 2: in Kwan Alexander, although his replacement, Jamie Sure, we're supposed

959
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: to be a pretty good athlete. We'll have to wait

960
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 2: and see. But yeah, that is the challenge. Uh. And

961
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Speaker 2: if the Bills can exploit that, yeah, I think I

962
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Speaker 2: think they will have a lot of success. On offense

963
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Speaker 2: for sure. We are unfortunately up against the break here.

964
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Speaker 2: So if you're hanging on at ATO three oh five fifty,

965
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Speaker 2: you're welcome to hang on. But when we come back,

966
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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk a lot more x'es and o's with

967
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Speaker 2: our new in season guest. Each and every Tuesday, it's

968
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Speaker 2: ESPN's Dan Orlovsky joining us next to talk Bills jets

969
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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Stay tune this One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to hour number two on a Tuesday.

972
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and excited to announce

973
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Speaker 2: that this season, every Tuesday, we are going to be

974
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Speaker 2: joined by a familiar NFL analyst to many, if you're

975
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Speaker 2: on social media, you see him use everything from his

976
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Speaker 2: index finger to a ballpoint pen to a spoon. I've

977
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Speaker 2: even seen at times to point out things on various

978
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Speaker 2: plays on film that he decipher is almost better than

979
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Speaker 2: anybody in the business. It is ESPN NFL analyst Dan

980
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Speaker 2: Orlovsky joining us. Dan, how are you man? You got

981
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: any new things you're gonna use on your film clips

982
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: this year, like maybe a poker or something something from

983
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Speaker 2: the fireplace what he got on them lined up here?

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Speaker 7: Man, Well, first off, if I'm doing great and it's

985
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 7: great to be with you guys, not only now but

986
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 7: on every Tuesday, fired up for that, I don't have

987
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 7: anything new that I plan on pointing with.

988
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: I will say on Thursday. There is a new I guess.

989
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 7: Like touchscreen that we at ESPN are unveiling specifically in

990
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 7: this Sports Center studio, so I'll be using that on

991
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 7: more than likely Tuesdays and Thursdays. It's pretty sick. So

992
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 7: it's a whole new studio that got built as well.

993
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 7: So nothing new, at least point wise. Because I'm tall enough,

994
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 7: there's a little hint, but some people might be using

995
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 7: some other stuff right.

996
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: So and that's really it's awesome because that's really how

997
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 3: you got started this bit. You went online. You said listen.

998
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 3: Because you played quarterback for a long time, you rubbed

999
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 3: up against some great players, you had a lot of

1000
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: snaps under your own belt, and you went online and

1001
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 3: just started saying, listen, here's what they're doing, and you

1002
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,959
Speaker 3: struck a nerve. People want to see somebody who who

1003
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: knows what's going through the quarterback's mind, and you've been

1004
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 3: able to do some in depth stuff and let's just

1005
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 3: talk about this opening weekend. Said a little bit ago,

1006
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 3: the potential is this the Chiefs Lions game could, in

1007
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: my opinion, could be an ugly game to start the season.

1008
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: But I think the best game of the weekend is

1009
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: the last game Monday night, Bill's Jets. I think that

1010
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 3: is going to be an absolute heavyweight about What are

1011
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 3: your thoughts on this weekends and week one of the

1012
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 3: NFL's schedule.

1013
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree.

1014
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 7: I mean, just speaking on Thursday night, I think it

1015
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 7: could be, you know, ugly as far as execution, The

1016
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 7: Chiefs usually aren't sloppy to start seasons because the way

1017
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 7: that they practice in training camp and Andy has those

1018
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 7: guys take so many preseasons snaps. The most interesting part

1019
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 7: about this game for me, Steve is this. I think

1020
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 7: Detroit is going to line up with the top two

1021
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 7: or three offensive line and facing the defense that is

1022
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 7: without by far their best player, by far their best player,

1023
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 7: and say stop it. We dare you to try and

1024
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 7: figure out a way to stop this. And I think

1025
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 7: it's going to be if you guys remember when the

1026
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 7: Raiders played the Chiefs. I think it was last year,

1027
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 7: the first time, and the Raiders ran the football down

1028
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 7: their throats.

1029
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 4: With a full back.

1030
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 7: I think we're gonna see that a little bit out

1031
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 7: of Detroit, and I if I was Detroit, I'd be

1032
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 7: preparing to see a ton of man coverage and a

1033
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 7: ton of movement on the defensive line. And the only

1034
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 7: reason why there's still a are they really going to

1035
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 7: beat the Chiefs is because of Patrick.

1036
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 4: But I think Detroit, before Chris was ever going to.

1037
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 7: Miss this game, I felt Detroit was going to give

1038
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 7: them hell and I still feel that way. If their secondary,

1039
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 7: which is remade in Detroit, can play a little bit

1040
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 7: better than they did on the back end of last year,

1041
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 7: Detroit wins this game, but it's hard to bet against

1042
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 7: Patrick at home.

1043
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 4: I think Sunday Night football is going to.

1044
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 7: Be massive Giants versus Dallas. I think the Giants defense

1045
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 7: defense is gonna be a problem because of their three

1046
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 7: guys up front, Dexter Lors, Dexter Lawrence, Leonard Williams in Thibodeaux,

1047
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 7: in their secondary with the blitz packages, and.

1048
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Speaker 4: Then for Monday Night.

1049
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 7: Monday Night will take two of the top four or

1050
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Speaker 7: five rosters in the NFL and pit them against each other.

1051
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Speaker 4: And not who the Bills and the Jets are.

1052
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 7: And it'll be interesting to see, Okay, what's the what's

1053
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 7: the Bills defense without Vaughan, what's the offense with Kincaid,

1054
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 7: what's the Jets defense with the addition McDonald? And is

1055
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 7: the offensive line as bad as some people make it

1056
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 7: out to be. So it's gonna be awesome to watch

1057
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 7: those two teams go head to head.

1058
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Speaker 2: Yeah, your your ESPN colleague Adam Schefter might have put

1059
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 2: a put a different spin on the Chiefs Lions game. Apparently,

1060
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey hyper extended his knee in practice and according

1061
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 2: to head coach Andy Reid, his status for Thursday is

1062
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: uncertain at this moment. That could change things precipitously. But

1063
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Speaker 2: jumping back to the Monday night game, Dan, you know

1064
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: you grew up in Connecticut close enough to the New

1065
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: York metch Politan area to know how New York fans

1066
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: react when they think they have a winner on their hands.

1067
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Speaker 2: So without even getting into x's and o's on this question,

1068
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Speaker 2: let's strictly talk atmosphere. Yes, the Bills have been in

1069
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 2: road games before where it's loud. They've played an arrowhead

1070
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs. MetLife Stadium has been loud when they've

1071
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: played there before, but with the hype that this team,

1072
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: the Jets has come into the season with Aaron Rodgers

1073
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 2: now on that roster and Monday night atmosphere, the anniversary

1074
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Speaker 2: of nine to eleven, I mean, we're talking like fevered

1075
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 2: pitch that can border on intimidating for any experienced playoff

1076
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Speaker 2: type football team. Can you just lend some context to that,

1077
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: you know, having grown up in the New York metropolitan.

1078
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Speaker 7: Area, it'll be the biggest home game for the Jets,

1079
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Speaker 7: certainly in years and maybe you know, decades, And when

1080
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 7: you walk around town. So I live about forty minutes

1081
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 7: from New York City, and the town and the area

1082
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 7: that I'm in, it's pretty much split between Giants and Jets.

1083
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 7: We get a sprinkle of US down Patriots fans, but

1084
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 7: most of the area is Giants or Jets. For every

1085
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 7: one question I've had about the Giants, I've had ten

1086
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 7: about the Jets, I've had ten. Is Aaron Rodgers going

1087
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 7: to be that good? Are they really that good? Is

1088
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 7: Garrett Wilson as good as everyone says he is?

1089
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 4: Man?

1090
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 7: This offensive line stinks? Is the defense going to be

1091
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 7: the best defense in the NFL and to know that

1092
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 7: and this is why the NFL is the best. It's

1093
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 7: not like the Jets are playing on home at home

1094
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 7: in this kind of time on the anniversary of nine

1095
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 7: to eleven versus the Jaguars, not to be disrespectful, or

1096
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 7: the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1097
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 4: They're playing against the team.

1098
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 7: That for the last what three years, has been one

1099
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 7: of the teams to beat in the conference, that has

1100
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 7: one of the best quarterbacks in football, that has Super

1101
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 7: Bowl expectations, that has won the division two years in

1102
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 7: a row, I think maybe three. So they brought in,

1103
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 7: you know, kind of one of the giants. That place

1104
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 7: will be nuts.

1105
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 3: How tough is it for a quarterback like Aaron to

1106
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 3: I think it'll be less tough for Aaron to move

1107
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 3: from Green Bay into the same offense in a new team,

1108
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 3: new Town, and certainly he's got to feel refurbished and

1109
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: rejuvenated by what's going on in New York. How much

1110
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 3: of a you know, like a settling in. How long

1111
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 3: do you think it'll take him to jail? I think

1112
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 3: it may be a little quicker because of Aaron Rodgers

1113
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 3: of veteran leadership. But is there going to be maybe

1114
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 3: a little bit of a slow start for the Jets

1115
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 3: or a little time to kind of work into it.

1116
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 3: I mean, how do you think that a new coordinator,

1117
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 3: new quarterback, a lot of new faces.

1118
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, if there's a little bit of a slow start,

1119
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 7: it's more of a credit to Buffalo in Week one

1120
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 7: than a lack of continuity for the Jets. It's not

1121
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 7: only that Aaron is new there, but he also spent

1122
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 7: the great majority of the offseason day so that takes

1123
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 7: away some of that newness. The second thing is this

1124
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 7: is the same offense he's run for a great majority

1125
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 7: of his career, certainly the last few years.

1126
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 4: In Green Bay. That takes a little bit of the

1127
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 4: newness away.

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Speaker 7: Randall Cobb is there, so not only does he have

1129
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 7: the rapport with Randall Cobb, but Randall Cobb is teaching

1130
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 7: others the expectations on place.

1131
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 4: So is Alan Lazard.

1132
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Speaker 7: So there's a lot of these guys that have been

1133
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 7: with Aaron, that have been in this offense.

1134
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 4: They've been with Aaron in this offense.

1135
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 7: That takes away a lot of the newness that they're

1136
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 7: gonna chance to have the trouble or have trouble with

1137
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 7: you know, I remember when Tom went down to Tampa

1138
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 7: because it is similar and then when Matthew Stafford went

1139
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 7: out to the Rams. Tom in those first few games

1140
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 7: was running the Bruce Arians offense, and there were hiccups

1141
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 7: and there were struggles, and there was a little bit

1142
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 7: of that newness that took time. Matthew Stafford went to

1143
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 7: the Rams and Sean McVay immediately took the stuff that

1144
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 7: Matthew had run and implemented to their offense. Matthew took

1145
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 7: off immediately. So I expect this offense to kind of

1146
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 7: be firing on all still quicker than you know Tom

1147
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 7: did in Tampa when he went down there in twenty twenty.

1148
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: Looking at you know, Buffalo's offense and what has changed

1149
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: you already referenced Dalton Kincaid once. I know you were

1150
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: pulling some clips from the Steelers preseason game with the Bills,

1151
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: when you know Kincaid was active in the middle of

1152
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: the field. And you know, we talked about here on

1153
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: our show last year how sometimes the offense, even though

1154
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 2: it was productive for the Bills throughout, sometimes looked like

1155
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: a heavy lift. That second and long, easy button answer

1156
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: that was Cole Beasley was no longer a part of

1157
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 2: this offense anymore. Now, it seems as though they have

1158
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: those easy button answers for Josh and the form of

1159
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid on a second and long for example, or

1160
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 2: even a Deontay Hardy or even a Trent Sherfield who

1161
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: has been enormously impressive from the spring right through training camp.

1162
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: So knowing that and maybe a greater enhanced ability to

1163
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: work the middle of the field this year than maybe

1164
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 2: last year, could you see Josh becoming the high efficiency

1165
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: quarterback again that we saw for the first time in

1166
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: twenty twenty.

1167
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 7: The word you just used there is efficiency, okay, and Chris,

1168
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 7: there is like this overall theme. It's not just central

1169
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 7: to Buffalo. It's something that we saw start to rear

1170
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 7: its head in twenty very much so in twenty.

1171
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 4: One and absolutely last year. And we touched on this

1172
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 4: in NFL Live.

1173
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 7: Is these defenses and the philosophy behind them, and coordinators

1174
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 7: have sat there and said they're too good, Okay, the

1175
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 7: quarterbacks are too talented, the receivers are too good for

1176
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 7: us to just constantly give them opportunities to push the

1177
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 7: ball downfield.

1178
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 4: So we're gonna take these really talented.

1179
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 7: Players, and we're gonna force them to play in the

1180
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 7: style that they don't want to nor they've really been

1181
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 7: challenged to.

1182
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 4: We saw that with Patrick three years ago.

1183
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 7: We saw it with Josh three years ago, right, efficiency,

1184
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 7: boring completions, and Josh was able to do it with Cole.

1185
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 4: For that season.

1186
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 7: And excuse me, I think twenty twenty or twenty twenty one,

1187
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 7: I think it's hard for me to sit here and

1188
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 7: believe that there's an offense in the NFL nowadays that

1189
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 7: is a super Bowl caliber offense if they're incapable of

1190
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 7: being efficient because teams are going to make them play

1191
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 7: to those styles and last year, and what I mean

1192
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 7: by efficient is when teams are lining up in these

1193
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 7: shell defenses, what do we call them? Cover full or

1194
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 7: cover two or match or two man? It doesn't matter

1195
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 7: with the elite pass rushers. If you don't have the

1196
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 7: person that will consistently get you six to eight yards

1197
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 7: of completion in a kind of I don't have to

1198
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 7: be in the perfect play callway, I think it's hard

1199
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 7: for me to peg you as a super Bowl offense.

1200
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 4: And I think that's what Kincaid brings to the Bill.

1201
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 7: So if that relationship and that connection is what I

1202
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 7: hope it's going to be.

1203
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 4: Then this offense should be very, very very dynamic. But

1204
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 4: it has to be that way.

1205
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 7: On a consistent basis because the three point shot will

1206
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 7: not always be there.

1207
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 3: So we've been talking about this all off season. The

1208
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 3: Bills ran less twelve personnel than any team in the

1209
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 3: NFL last year, and it looks like that's probably not

1210
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 3: going to be the case this year. What does twelve

1211
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 3: personnel do to Bill's opponents defensively?

1212
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, so, first of all, it forces you to as

1213
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 7: a defense, how are you going to play us in situations? Okay,

1214
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 7: so if I put my twelve personnel, one back, two

1215
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 7: tight ends on the field, and let's say it's first

1216
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 7: and ten, and you decide to stay in your base defense,

1217
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 7: meaning three linebackers, the Bill should automatically be planning on

1218
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 7: seventy five to eighty five percent of the time throwing

1219
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 7: the football in those situations. I don't care if it's

1220
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 7: a man into or zone coverage. You automatically have the

1221
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 7: advantage whether we keep the tight ends inside the numbers

1222
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 7: or we flip it and we force tight ends to

1223
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 7: play outside the numbers because they're talented enough, and we

1224
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 7: bring receivers like step inside or Shirtfield inside, or gave

1225
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 7: Davis inside to work on linebackers. Okay, number two, if

1226
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 7: those defenses say, you know what, we're gonna play nickel,

1227
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 7: which is something Buffalo's defense does more than anybody in

1228
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 7: the NFL. We're actually going to talk about that in

1229
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 7: NFL Live today. If you're gonna play with five defensive

1230
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 7: backs on the field, that means you got a little guy. Well,

1231
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 7: then it's incumbent upon our tight ends to be good enough.

1232
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 7: I'm not saying these tight ends need to be kittle,

1233
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 7: but good enough in the run game where we could

1234
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 7: take advantage of that where we could I remember watching

1235
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 7: teams like Minnesota do that to Buffalo's defense to take

1236
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 7: advantage of a little bit more of that efficient run game.

1237
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 4: And then the third thing I think is.

1238
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 7: This, when you get teams to kind of play in

1239
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 7: that world of is it base or is it nickel,

1240
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 7: you start to in situational football be able to empower

1241
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 7: your quarterback at the line of scrimmage. Hey, third and four,

1242
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 7: third and five, if they line up in this, let's

1243
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 7: get to this play, and it's so many different check

1244
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 7: with Me's that you could give an intelligent player like

1245
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 7: Josh to not get you out of bad place, but

1246
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 7: to get you into ideal plays. And if those two

1247
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 7: guys can become super I don't want to say dominant,

1248
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 7: but effective in either the past game and or their

1249
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 7: run game in that personnel, that means you now control

1250
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 7: to the defense how you will allow them to play you.

1251
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 2: And there are and flipping it over to the other side,

1252
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 2: Dan there, we're seeing more of a I don't want

1253
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 2: to call it a proliferation. That might be a little

1254
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,479
Speaker 2: too strong, but we're seeing an increase in these three

1255
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: safety looks from defense. Is we know that you know

1256
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: Dougger was the third safety up in New England the

1257
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: last couple of years. There are other teams doing it

1258
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 2: now the Bills and now have tailor rap and there's

1259
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 2: a good chance we're going to see it from the

1260
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 2: Bills to some degree. And even the Jets are talking

1261
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 2: about putting Adrian Amos on the field with the other

1262
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 2: two safeties at times. So how effective can that be

1263
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 2: as a counter to twelve personnel.

1264
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 7: I think it all depends on the safety and that

1265
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 7: third safety because here's the thing, and that's I understand

1266
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 7: why teams are doing it because they want a little

1267
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 7: bit more of a person who is better in coverage

1268
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 7: than a linebacker, but also a little bit more physical

1269
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 7: than maybe some of the nickels that play in the NFL.

1270
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 7: I think that the downside is is if you're playing

1271
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 7: in that three safety grouping, you could be taking a

1272
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 7: better football player off the field than that third safety.

1273
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 7: Like a perfect example is you guys that you just

1274
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 7: mentioned Taylor Rapp, good player, but Taron Johnson's a better player,

1275
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 7: but he might not be as physical in the run game.

1276
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 7: He's a better cover guy, He's got more experience in

1277
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 7: coverage all that. So I think what's going to happen

1278
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 7: is this is where an analytics thing will come into play. Hey,

1279
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 7: if you're going to line up in twelve personnel on

1280
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 7: first down and the defenses in nickel, they want to

1281
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 7: run the ball sixty percent of the time. If the

1282
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 7: defense is in base, they want to throw the ball

1283
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,479
Speaker 7: seventy five percent of the time. So if we match

1284
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 7: in three safeties, what does that do to that percentage?

1285
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 6: You know?

1286
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 7: Is that Hey, throughout the season, when Buffalo lines up

1287
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 7: in twelve personnel and they play against three safeties, they're

1288
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 7: throwing the ball seventy percent of the time, and I

1289
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 7: think that's going to be a vehicle that teams are

1290
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 7: going to start to use. Can they get you to be?

1291
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 7: And that's the counter for the defenses to try to

1292
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 7: get you to do things that they have a little

1293
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 7: bit of an awareness of. It's a smart counter if

1294
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 7: that third safety is a very good and dynamic player,

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Speaker 7: but he may not be as good as the nickel

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Speaker 7: and certain things, and I think that's the you know,

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Speaker 7: the third.

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Speaker 4: Counter to all this. Like Baltimore.

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Speaker 7: I just mentioned Kyle Hamilton, their second year player out

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Speaker 7: of Notre Dame. Well, Kyle is really good defending the run.

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Speaker 7: So if you're playing Baltimore and you line up in

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Speaker 7: your twelve personnel and Baltimore's playing in that three safety set,

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01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 7: maybe you lean on throwing the football a little bit

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01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 7: more than you would have even though it's a defensive back,

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Speaker 7: because he's more effective against the run. So that's kind

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Speaker 7: of how there's all these layers to it.

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Speaker 3: Is it getting closer and closer to positionless football where

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Speaker 3: you've got five weapons on offense, where you can take

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Speaker 3: your split out, your ex receiver, moot line him up

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Speaker 3: in the backfield, hand it to him, and do that

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Speaker 3: with all four or five of the eligible receivers. And

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Speaker 3: on the other side, you got linebackers who predominantly now

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Speaker 3: are less than two hundred and forty pounds, some of

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Speaker 3: them less than two thirty, and they can run and cover.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, you just kind of match up

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Speaker 3: with whoever whoever, and it becomes positionless football, all away

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Speaker 3: from the foot, away from the ball. All the outside guys,

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Speaker 3: the defensive backs, the wide receivers, tight ends and running

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Speaker 3: backs and all the dbs, they're all positionless where they

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Speaker 3: can move around, play safety, play corner, play zone, play man,

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Speaker 3: play in the run game, play not in the run game,

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Speaker 3: and you're getting this trend towards everybody being kind of the.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit to that, Steve.

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Speaker 7: I think the cautionary tale is like Isaiah Simmons in Arizona.

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Speaker 7: When he was drafted out of Clemson, he was this

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Speaker 7: guy that, well, he could play everywhere. He's a positionless player,

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Speaker 7: but he's not really, at least right now in the NFL,

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Speaker 7: he hasn't been able to show that he's necessarily good

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Speaker 7: at one.

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Speaker 4: Of those positions.

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Speaker 7: So while you certainly want positional flexibility. I think that

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Speaker 7: we have to be careful, at least in my offensive perspective.

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01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 7: If you're putting a bunch of guys out there that

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01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 7: aren't good at a certain position, I don't care where

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Speaker 7: they play.

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Speaker 4: I'll find him and attack them.

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Speaker 7: So I think that there is an element to that,

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Speaker 7: and I think it's conference based as well. I think

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Speaker 7: that in the NFC you do have to have defensive

1340
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Speaker 7: linemen that are run stoppers, and you do have to

1341
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 7: have linebackers that can plug the hole in the run

1342
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Speaker 7: game because the two best teams or the three best

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Speaker 7: teams are run centric teams. And I think in the

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Speaker 7: AFC you do need guys that are a little bit

1345
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 7: more capable of playing out in space because the quarterbacks

1346
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 7: are so dynamic.

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Speaker 4: You do need a little.

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Speaker 7: Bit more pass rush defensive tackles and run stopping defensive

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Speaker 7: tackles as of right now.

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Speaker 4: So there's an element to that position list.

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Speaker 7: I think I kind of view it as a position

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Speaker 7: flexibility Derwin James for the Chargers more than position lists,

1353
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 7: because I think you can get yourself into trouble if

1354
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 7: you kind of live in that world defense.

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Speaker 3: The problem is, yeah, you for every Simmons kid from

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01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 3: Caroline or for Clemson, there's a Micah Parsons, you know,

1357
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 3: who can who can do it? Right. So if you,

1358
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 3: of course, if you had five Micah Parsons, Okay, I

1359
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 3: used flight right, So but yeah, and then now too,

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Speaker 3: they're asking guys at lower levels. They're asking them to

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Speaker 3: be like the Josh Allens and the Cam Newton's and

1362
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Speaker 3: and the guy the kid from the USC that's coming

1363
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Speaker 3: out in Williams. There getting some really good athletes to

1364
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Speaker 3: play quarterback. And they're not just sticking them at tight

1365
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 3: end or running back or tight or wherever. They're letting them.

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Speaker 3: They're letting them take snaps and they never used to

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Speaker 3: do that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're just saying, can you throw it a

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01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 4: little bit?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: No, if you can throw it a little bit, you know,

1372
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Speaker 7: we believe that you can develop in that or you know,

1373
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Speaker 7: it'll be interesting to see because with all that being said,

1374
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 7: the only guy that we've watched go on in the

1375
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Speaker 7: NFL and have a really good career when it comes

1376
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Speaker 7: to that is Cam I think as of right now,

1377
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 7: to be used in that capacity. You guys are obviously

1378
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 7: a part of you know, in the last year or so,

1379
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 7: it's been the bigger conversation.

1380
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Speaker 4: Of does Josh need to run less?

1381
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 7: Not to say that Josh hasn't had a great career,

1382
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 7: and it's obviously becoming one, but it'll just be as

1383
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 7: the money continues to go up and up and up

1384
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 7: for that position, how much as you get to the

1385
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 7: higher levels are teams just willing to expose those guys

1386
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 7: to hits? Because eventually I remember sitting with McDermott and

1387
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 7: saying he was around Cam and he said, eventually it

1388
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 7: catches up to those guys.

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Speaker 4: So as much as.

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Speaker 7: Those quarterbacks are being ran, it'll be interesting to see

1391
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 7: how much that continues to be a part of it.

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Speaker 2: Last one, quickly, Dan, knowing that you watch Oodle's more

1393
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 2: tape than we do, and we kind of suffer from

1394
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 2: Bill's myopia here and focus on Bill's Bill's bills. What

1395
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: did you pull from preseason Jets tape that you believe

1396
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 2: no one is talking about but should be because Aaron

1397
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 2: Rodgers has kind of been like a solar eclipse. He's

1398
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: blocked out the sun with as big a story as

1399
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 2: he has been. What about the Jets in the preseason

1400
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 2: should people be talking about that? They're not.

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01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'll keep it to kind of Buffalo centric

1402
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 7: for the first. First of all, the waves of their

1403
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 7: defensive line, and if you had to asking my biggest

1404
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 7: concern in this game for Buffalo, it's the offensive line

1405
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 7: and specifically the right side, and the waves of people

1406
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 7: that they have to be able to go and rush

1407
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 7: the passer is going to be overwhelming for a lot

1408
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 7: of teams, and that's gonna be the biggest challenge for

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Speaker 7: Buffalo money Night.

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Speaker 4: I think the second thing is is.

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Speaker 7: If you don't on a relatively consistent basis, get in

1412
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 7: the face of or near Garrett Wilson, they are gonna

1413
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 7: throw him the football on these little one step now

1414
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 7: or these quickie one step slants and just get the

1415
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 7: ball in his hands because he's dynamic with the ball

1416
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 7: in his hands and his catch radius is off the charts,

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01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 7: and I think that's going to force defenses to have

1418
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 7: these conversations like, hey, do we have a guy that

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01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 7: can consistently one on one?

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Speaker 4: Do it? Do we have to play a little bit

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01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:41,759
Speaker 4: over the top. How are we gonna.

1422
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 7: Play pre snap Garrett Wilson at the line of scrimmage

1423
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 7: Because if not, he's gonna have twelve catches a game,

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01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 7: and that'll be the biggest challenge for a Tradavius.

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Speaker 4: And then I think the third thing is.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sitting here telling everybody that this is gonna

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01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 7: be like the San Francisco forty nine ers offense. But

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01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 7: the ball handling and the way that he is going

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01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 7: to hide the football from the defense and their run

1430
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 7: or their play action game and the stuff that he

1431
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 7: does in that one and a half second frame is

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01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 7: going to force defenses to play so much slower than

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01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 7: they want to when he is under center. And I

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01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 7: think that is going to because everyone says their offensive line,

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01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 7: I think that is going to have a profound impact

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01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 7: on how well their offensive line is going to be

1437
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 7: able to play.

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Speaker 2: Dan, thanks for the time. We look forward to talking

1439
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 2: to you next week about how this one turned out,

1440
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 2: so we'll catch up with you then. All right, thanks

1441
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 2: for the time.

1442
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 4: Thanks guys, enjoy it all right.

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Speaker 2: That's Kloski. NFL analysts going to join us here all

1444
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 2: season long every Tuesday for football x's and o's conversations.

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01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a better guy we could

1446
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 2: have dice it up with than that guy.

1447
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 3: I mean, he does and I know this are We

1448
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 3: have a ton of faithful listeners, and sometimes when we

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01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 3: get into these conversations, particularly with Dan, get down the

1450
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 3: rabbit hole. Yeah, we go down a rabbit hole. He says, well,

1451
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 3: you're talking about the running back in the tight end

1452
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 3: when you slip in that second say, you know, we

1453
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 3: go down to this x's nose. Stuff. It's a little

1454
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 3: hard to follow on the radio, not that it's any

1455
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 3: easier when you're looking at our faces, but on TV.

1456
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 3: But that's where we're at here. I mean that he is.

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01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 3: He is an excellent It really is. It's it's at

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01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 3: at the very least masters level stuff, and it's going

1459
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 3: to be fun to listen to because he'll be able

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01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 3: to look at this film and tell us some specifics

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Speaker 3: about you know, Josh and the offensive line and all

1462
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 3: that play.

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Speaker 2: That was very interesting what he said at the very end, though,

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01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: The way that Aaron is able to hide the ball

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01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 2: ball fakes coming out from center might be the, as

1466
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 2: you like to often say, the elixir to giving the

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01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 2: offensive line the extra half second they need to hold

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01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 2: up by virtue of his play fake hiding the ball,

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Speaker 2: forcing forcing the defense to play slower than they want to.

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Speaker 2: That's a hidden talent in this game that not every

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Speaker 2: quarterback has. That's true, and Aaron does do that very well.

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Speaker 2: I will give him full marks for that. And if

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01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 2: it slows down your defense, that can develop into a problem.

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01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: Even if you don't have an offensive line that's good enough.

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Speaker 3: And I'll say this, it takes some courage to fake

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01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 3: a handoff and have the ball tucked away in your

1477
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 3: stomach and acting like you don't have it, like you're

1478
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 3: nonchalanting it, because if they think you do have it,

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01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 3: you're gonna get treated like a tent steak at a campsite.

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01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 3: So it really does take some courage, but it really works.

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01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 3: Ball handling in the smooth ability to do that really

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01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 3: can make a difference if you're good at it. And yeah,

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01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers obviously is good at a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here, but back to your phone

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, how you doing good? Just a couple of

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Speaker 6: things want I just want to reference to caller from

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Speaker 6: a few calls ago. He called in and he's talked

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01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:22,799
Speaker 6: about our draft pick failures and so on and so forth,

1509
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 6: and you know why the Bills won these playoff games

1510
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 6: and who they beat, YadA YadA, that was last year.

1511
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 6: So and you could pick a part in anybody's draft

1512
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 6: picks on any team. Just want to get that out

1513
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 6: there as far as this game goes. The Jets are

1514
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 6: really hyping themselves up along with their coach. And I

1515
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 6: think one thing that nobody's talking about is the Bills

1516
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 6: have been in these big games before. We opened up

1517
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 6: with the Rams last year after they won the Super Bowl,

1518
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 6: so we're used to these high PRESSU your games. And

1519
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 6: the Jets are have a lot of good talent. They've

1520
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 6: got Rogers and all these players, but they haven't played

1521
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 6: together yet and the real game, I mean, so that's

1522
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,839
Speaker 6: going to be a factor. The Bills are a season

1523
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 6: team who have been there and are looking right now

1524
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 6: to get over the hump and make it to a

1525
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 6: Super Bowl. I don't think the Bills are intimidated by

1526
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 6: the Jets or Aaron Rodgers or whoever. I think they

1527
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 6: have confidence in themselves. And if you notice, Brownie, you

1528
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 6: haven't heard one thing at a one Bill's job drive

1529
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 6: about this thing.

1530
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 3: It's true radio scientist, not by an accident. Yeah, you're right,

1531
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 3: that's a good point.

1532
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for the call, Steve, appreciate it.

1533
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean right.

1534
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 2: I was talking to Steve about this earlier in the show.

1535
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 2: I think there is a small advantage, small that the

1536
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 2: Bills are getting the Jets right at the jump here.

1537
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 2: You know, we heard Dan Orlowski just tell us as

1538
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 2: he will every week. You know, Rogers is in the

1539
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 2: same offensive system. He spent a good portion of the

1540
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:14,560
Speaker 2: offseason there, you know, kind of acclimating himself to his teammates,

1541
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 2: reading body languages of his receivers. But it hasn't been

1542
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 2: at game speed for more than seven snaps. That's how

1543
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 2: many snaps Rogers played in the preseason. Now you ramp

1544
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 2: it up to regular season speed Monday night, and I

1545
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 2: don't know that all the gears are going to be clicking,

1546
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,799
Speaker 2: you know, into gears, so to speak, for the Jets,

1547
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 2: from front to back, soup to nuts. I think the

1548
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 2: Bills bring in an advantage of some measure of continuity.

1549
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 2: And as our caller Steve mentioned, playing in these big time,

1550
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 2: high profile, under the lights games, Jets haven't had any.

1551
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 3: Of the Yeah. Well, Aaron Rodgers has a He's well

1552
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 3: versed in it. So's Randall Cobb and some of the

1553
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 3: guys that came over with Aaron from Green Bay. But

1554
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 3: you're right, I mean, as a group and as a team,

1555
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 3: this is a different animal than the games that they've

1556
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 3: played in up to this point. The Bills did it.

1557
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 3: They waded into LA last year on Opening Night, on

1558
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 3: that Thursday night game in the Chiefs. The Chiefs Lions

1559
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 3: game of this year was the Bills of Rams last year,

1560
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 3: and the Bills lumped those guys up. You've said it

1561
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 3: a couple of times. Aaron has not gotten off to

1562
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 3: nice starts in the last couple of years. Now, certainly

1563
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 3: they've been down years, but you know, prior to that,

1564
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 3: he's two time MVP. Wasn't all rainbows and sunshine on

1565
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 3: Opening Night for Aaron. But and this is also you

1566
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 3: made a good point. I think this jet offense is

1567
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 3: gonna look a little, at least a little bit like

1568
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 3: the Green Bay offense that Aaron has run for sixteen years,

1569
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 3: and with Nate Hackett helping him in two MVPs back

1570
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 3: to back, I think it's gonna look a lot like

1571
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 3: that did, at least the concepts and the way they

1572
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 3: do things. So I think there's a lot of knowledge

1573
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 3: you can gain from studying what happened in Green Bay

1574
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 3: with Nate Hackett and Aaron Rodgers and how this offense

1575
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 3: works and what you already know about it and the

1576
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 3: game you played against them last year. I think you

1577
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 3: can use a lot of that to help you get

1578
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 3: ready for and prepare for this game now. Certainly you

1579
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 3: can make the same kind of analysis for saying, hey,

1580
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 3: the Bills are gonna be you know, they're gonna come

1581
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 3: in and they're gonna be the same team they got

1582
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 3: to still have Josh, Well, things have changed here a

1583
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 3: little bit in Buffalo. Their offensive line's been upgraded, and

1584
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 3: they've got some different kinds of weapons, different kinds of

1585
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 3: weapons than they've had in the past, and they're gonna

1586
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 3: use them differently. So there's some things that maybe are

1587
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 3: different for Buffalo. So that doesn't mean it's gonna go

1588
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 3: well or they're gonna surprise them, but you know, there's

1589
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 3: some question marks there on both sides.

1590
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: In Week one, twenty twenty one, Aaron Rodgers led Packers

1591
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: lose thirty eight three to the Saints. Rodgers is fifteen

1592
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 2: of twenty eight for one p thirty three, a sack,

1593
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 2: and two picks and a passer rating a thirty six

1594
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 2: point eight. He was taken out of the game and

1595
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 2: Jordan Love was put in to get some experience. That

1596
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 2: was two years ago in the opener. Last year, in

1597
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 2: the opener they lose to the Minnesota Vikings twenty three

1598
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 2: to seven. Aaron Rodgers twenty two to thirty four for

1599
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 2: one to ninety five, sacked four times and a pick,

1600
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 2: passer rating a sixty seven point six. He was also

1601
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 2: taken out of that game and Jordan Love came in.

1602
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,759
Speaker 2: So the last two season openers for Aaron Rodgers, albeit

1603
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 2: with a different team in a different city against a

1604
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 2: different team, not so hot coming out of the gate

1605
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 2: in Week one. Now, as Steve pointed out, he's probably

1606
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 2: rejuvenated being in a new place. Clearly from that soliloquy

1607
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 2: he uttered last week, he feels liberated from Green Bay.

1608
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's he's got to show that he can

1609
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: perform in a season opener again and do it against

1610
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 2: the top five defense from last year. So we'll see.

1611
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 3: It'll be it's gonna be different. Like with any new season,

1612
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 3: there's more that we don't know than there is that

1613
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 3: we do, and all these teams, particularly the Jets, and

1614
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 3: of course the Bills as well. They feel like they've

1615
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 3: changed enough and made efforts to improve. These are two

1616
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 3: teams that, man, they got They got high expectations inside

1617
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 3: their own buildings, no question about it. And of course

1618
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 3: the fans expectations are what they always are at different times.

1619
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 3: But there's still more that we don't know than what

1620
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:50,719
Speaker 3: we do. And that's why, man, we can. I can't

1621
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 3: wait to see these two teams play. Yeah, it's gonna

1622
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,799
Speaker 3: be a great game. That listen with Bills fans are

1623
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 3: knowledgeable enough. No, the Jets are no push. They are

1624
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 3: not the Jets. These are not your dad's Jets. This

1625
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 3: is a good team and they have drafted outstandingly in

1626
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, maybe for the first time

1627
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 3: in three decades, I mean well year over a year. Yes,

1628
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 3: they are more than one day hit on this strip,

1629
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 3: and it shows what type.

1630
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 2: Of game are you expecting Monday night against the Jets.

1631
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 2: Let's go to the tweet sheet presented by Corrigan Moving Systems,

1632
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 2: the official equipment moving system of the Buffalo Bills. Connor says,

1633
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: I think it'll be a tight game for about three quarters,

1634
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 2: but a late game turnover will seal it for Buffalo.

1635
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: My prediction is thirty four to twenty eight Bills. Alan

1636
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,799
Speaker 2: goes for three hundred plus and three tds. Jack says

1637
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: it will be a hard fought battle for three quarters

1638
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 2: and I could see several field goals. However, I expect

1639
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 2: Alan to put it on his back and the fourth

1640
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 2: find a lot of his new targets and lead the

1641
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,719
Speaker 2: pull away in New Jersey, putting it out of reach

1642
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 2: for Ganggreen. Late A's two guys that see the game

1643
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 2: unfolding the same way, pulling away late late in the game.

1644
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 3: Interesting, interesting, Steve says.

1645
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 2: With the national media trying to find a way to

1646
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,759
Speaker 2: pull the Bills apart all offseason, I believe the Bills

1647
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 2: go into this game with a chip on their shoulder

1648
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 2: and take care of business to prove a point. I

1649
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 2: think the game looks a lot like last year's Rams

1650
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 2: Opening Day game. Wow, that was thirty one to ten.

1651
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm expecting that. I'd be happy

1652
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: if it does.

1653
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, this defense is going to be better than the

1654
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 3: Rams defense last year, so that'll be hard even with

1655
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 3: Aaron Donald notwithstanding so, and I think too. Dan Roofski

1656
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 3: just told us in the last segment. The Jets defensive

1657
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 3: line is the real deal? Is the real deal? All

1658
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 3: of them? They got a whole bunch of guys.

1659
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 2: You got two first round picks at defensive end on

1660
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: the bench coming off in Jermaine Johnson and Will McDonald.

1661
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 2: Those guys don't even start speaking of first round picks

1662
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 2: that don't start. We got to take a break here,

1663
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 2: but some final thoughts on the tweets sheeet when we

1664
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,360
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1665
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:15,559
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1666
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,439
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1667
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:23,519
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1668
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 2: the tweets sheet quickly from Edward. I still have very

1669
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 2: little confidence in the Bills front five. This game's probably

1670
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 2: going to be about who has the best offensive line

1671
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 2: because the Jets O line is very similar to the

1672
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 2: Bills and looks like Swiss cheese. Whichever quarterback survives the

1673
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: game wins.

1674
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 3: The Jets offense pointed, not similar to the Buffalo Bills

1675
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 3: at all. Bills are better, particularly from guard to guard

1676
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 3: and a left tackle to guard. You can say what

1677
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 3: you want about Spencer Brown, but the But the Jets

1678
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 3: have all kinds of question marks up there, and the

1679
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 3: Bills offensive line doesn't deserve some of the criticism has gotten.

1680
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 3: I'm I'm telling you there's the Bill's offensive line is

1681
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 3: significantly better than the Jet offensive line.

1682
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 2: In my opinion from Sabers Bills ninety two. A tight

1683
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 2: game throughout. The Jets D line is scary, that is true.

1684
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 3: And as good as the Bill's line might might or

1685
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 3: not might not be, Jets D line is good. So

1686
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 3: this is gonna be a this they got. The Jets

1687
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 3: have strengths, Bills have strengths, and how those strengths and

1688
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 3: weaknesses mesh is gonna be the tail of this game.

1689
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 3: But let me tell you something. That Jet defensive line,

1690
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 3: particularly those guys down inside. I hope they can catch

1691
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 3: Josh Allen because they're gonna be chasing him. Yeah, they

1692
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 3: ain't gonna catch him, can't. They can't outrun him.

1693
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,719
Speaker 2: Will McDonald is a pretty impressive athlete. He's their rookie

1694
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 2: first round pick from this past draft. Iowa State Bill's

1695
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 2: liked him a lot. Supreme athlete likes him. Only goes

1696
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 2: about two fifty long and lanky, and he can run

1697
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 2: from Brian. I would say, I wouldn't say it's going

1698
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 2: to be a crazy blowout, but I expect a pretty

1699
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 2: convincing Bills win. Rogers will need a few games to

1700
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 2: get into rhythm with the Jets, and the Bills should

1701
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 2: have a little bit of a chip on their shoulder.

1702
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 2: I'm all for the chip.

1703
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm all for the chip too. Give me the chip,

1704
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,759
Speaker 3: give me the chip on the shoulder. Yeah.

1705
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 2: I mean they've been they've been, you know, dragged down

1706
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 2: and disrespected all off season. Does it does it will

1707
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 2: be difference in their performance on Monday Night.

1708
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,879
Speaker 3: Will be one game away from the opening day tomorrow.

1709
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 3: Let's go.

1710
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow at one for more scintillating Bill's discussion.

1711
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 2: We'll see you that