WEBVTT - Give My Regards to Javasu 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:05.360 Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Hey, Sarony, 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:08.320 Elizabeth Dutton, you know it's ridiculous, Yeah, I do. Actually, 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:11.920 do you know if you tried one new Coca Cola 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:16.400 product every day, it would take you nine years to 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.880 try them all? Wait, Coca Cola? Like? Are you talking 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.000 about Coca Cola the beverage con so, but any of 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:27.280 the like or whatever their various They make more than 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.480 thirty five hundred different beverages. My stars, that's a lot. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:33.800 I had no idea. That's just straight up ridiculous. I 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:36.920 kicked diet coke not too long ago. I used to 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:38.680 drink a lot of it and it spend a couple 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:43.239 of months and I happened. What water that stuff? I 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:47.640 only drink water and iced coffee. Now, Hm, you know, 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.599 run and clean? Okay, let me tell you something else. 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:54.400 It's ridiculous, all right. Later on me chasing century clout 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.600 and conning the public by pretending to be a princess 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:22.560 from an imaginary island. I like that me too. This 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:27.640 is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:34.880 and cons. It's always murder free and ridiculous. So is Naron, 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.800 I have a question for you. Have you ever told 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:43.000 a significant lie about yourself to other people? Have I ever? 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.240 In fact, one of my best friends I made our 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.680 like our friendship was made based on a lie. Yeah. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.760 So what happened was who is orientation in college? It 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.800 was like the first day, like your orientation, and there's 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.400 this bus that there's loading students. I'll think, we'll take 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.080 you down to the each and have like the whole thing. 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:02.840 So I'm like, cool, I'll roll into the beach. You 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:07.200 know I love beaches, so you do moon dogging. So 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:10.359 I get on this bus moondogging in it up and uh, 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.520 I see this all these really hot Spanish girls at 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:15.520 the back of the bus and a bunch of Spanish dudes. 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.640 They're all like, also hot if you're into Spanish dudes, right, 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.520 So just a bunch of attractive Spaniards are in the 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.680 back of this bus and there's one dude, this Korean 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.680 dude sitting there in the Chicago Cubs hat talking in 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.680 Spanish to them. No. I understand enough Spanish to get around, 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.480 but not enough to really do my thing. So I 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.720 went up and told him, hey, man, are you from Chicago. 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.360 He's like, yeah, and so I then told him I 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.840 was from Chicago and we bonded over that so that 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.480 way I could go and talk to all those hot 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.360 Spanish girls and by hanging out with him, and we 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.160 went down to the beach and we all partied together 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:44.760 and it worked out great. He and I became the 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:49.200 best of friends. Did he ask you what neighbor? Oh? Yeah, 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.000 I know Chicago well enough that I could like name 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.320 high schools and stuff, But you could name high schools 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.919 in Chicago like New Trier High. I knew like plenty 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.920 of Lincoln Lincoln Wood anyway, so that's disturbing, Thank you. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.480 I just listened to two stories. I had all these details. Anyway, 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:05.520 he meets my mother for the first time. What's his 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.280 first question? Hey, what part of Chicago do you live in? 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:09.880 And I was like, oh right, I forgot i'd ever 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.200 tell him. So that's what we found at the truth 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.200 we never lived in Chicago. And he looked at me 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.680 like the darts in his eyes. How long was this 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:23.640 from the bus ride to the reveal? Probably ten months. Wow, 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.160 that's a long time to keep you know, I wasn't 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:31.720 committed to it. I forgot you talk like that would 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:32.919 have been the fun part that if I would do 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.840 it again, I would definitely be like, Okay, all right, lying, Well, 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.680 we've all done that. We've all kind of painted ourselves 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:43.040 as someone else, right, especially when we're young. Oh yeah, totally. 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:47.080 And we exaggerate, we fabricate, so like people in their resumes, 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:53.200 why do we do that? I'm good at XCEL proficient, extraficient, 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:55.080 But like, why do we do that? We do that 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.480 to make ourselves more interesting, or to get further in life, 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.240 or to avoid questions. So we think about people who 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.320 don't tell the truth or who exaggerate, and I think 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.000 a really good example of that is a lady named 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:13.920 Mary Wilcox. Mary Wilcox no w I L L C 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:20.719 O c K S stop, I'm gonna stop. So Mary 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:25.000 was born She's born in in England, in a little 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:30.599 village in Devonshire, just north of Exeter. Is this making 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:33.840 any no is anywhere close to frog? Well? Oh my gosh, 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:37.279 she's like right near frog, well super close to frog. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:42.920 Well she's really eccentric, prone to depression, rad little kid. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:45.640 And but you know the time, girl, and the thing 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.719 is is that she's not rich. She's you know, her 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.800 dad's a cobbler and her mom spins wool and she 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.400 also the mom like we did corn fields or something 0:04:55.480 --> 0:05:00.719 or wheat fields like English peasants viage shoes one right, 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.120 and here she's eccentric and prone to depression. But I 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.440 think the only the rich are allowed to be eccentric, 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.320 especially in England. Yeah, anywhere then you kind of otherwise 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:11.960 you look down upon, but you get to be weird. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.680 Oh yeah, if you're you're rich eccentric. If you're poor, 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.040 you're crazy. Right, So, but she wants more in life, 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.240 you know, like she sees the world in a different way. 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.640 She's this crazy wanderlest She just wants to see the world, 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.760 which really was not open to her at that time. 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:31.640 It's difficult. You're stuck in Devonshire in correct. Yeah, that's 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:35.240 when she came into this world. But she she kind 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.240 of figures out how she can navigate that world and 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.400 make it interesting for her. She learns how to read, 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:44.400 which was a big deal then for someone and no 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.880 and like peasants, and you know, it just wasn't it 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.560 wasn't something that was sort of on offer. I would imagine. Um. 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.039 She also learned how to swim, and that was a 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:57.320 big deal. You know, they preferred their their poor people drowning. 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:02.000 And so she gets a gig as a servant. That 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.320 makes total sense. You can see that happening. And next 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:09.440 door to where she is working, there's this Jewish family 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.440 and first she'd be friends their servant, and then she 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.840 befriends the whole family and they, um, they teach her 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.160 how to write, and they teach her all in English, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.240 in English, but they teach her also they teach her 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.839 the Hebrew alphabet, and they teach her all this really 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.320 cool stuff, the Jewish diet, and they just sound like 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:33.840 this really neat family that it's just gets along with everybody. Um. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:38.240 She gets fired from her gig though, because she's not 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.960 she's a little bit flaky, you know, she's kind of 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:45.280 a daydreamer. Uh. And so after she's fired, she gets 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.600 arrested because she stole a piece of cloth and she 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.599 do is going down how fast? Yeah, And she started 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.279 to get more and more desperate. She dresses herself like 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.520 a man and gets a job as a footman on 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:01.320 the back of a like a servant. Yeah. On and 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.520 h one night she's in this snowstorm and she's trying 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.360 to make her way back to where she works, the 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.280 home where she works, and she's all wet and cold 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.080 and like shivering, and they take her in and they 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.720 go to help change out of her clothes and they're like, 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:21.320 that's not a man, she's not. She's so cold, she's 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.600 so cold, she's like chattering at her teeth, and she's 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.680 trying to like I did, don't do, and then they 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:28.880 like strip her down, thinking it's just going to be 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:33.560 some dude. No, So then she gets fired again, and 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.440 I write around that time. She then gets married, but 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:44.360 it's me and then also, oh it's not a love marriage. Yeah, 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.840 she gets married. She only married, she's only married to 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.480 the guy for nine months, and she has a kid. 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.240 So what that makes me think is that that's why 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:57.000 she got married. So she has a kid. She marries 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.440 the guy whose last name is Baker, and so she 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:04.920 becomes Rry Baker keeps us in mind, are you getting 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.160 are you okay? Good? You're writing it down. She has 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.000 to give the kid up because she's so broke, and 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:15.520 you know, the guy splits. The kid passes away not 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.920 long after he's given up, So it's just like a 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:22.320 really hard luck story. She starts to sort of moving around. 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.040 She makes her way up to Bristol, which is north 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.960 of where she was from near Wales, and she gets 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:36.520 lodging with this woman named Mrs Neil, and yes you do, 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.360 Mrs Neil. Now she's totally desperate to go to America. 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:47.239 That's her absolute dream. And in the meantime she's entertaining 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:51.360 Mrs Neil's kids by making up languages and stuff like that. 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.320 And one day she's down at the docks and she 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.679 sees these French women women down by the docks. I 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:00.559 don't know what they were doing. It's weird for a 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:04.360 weird place for French French women. Long we're still coastlined 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:09.080 down by the docks. Yeah, they're just you know, hanging out, vibing. 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:14.560 They were there for the chowder. Um. But Mary notices 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.800 that they're getting all this attention. Now I think I 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:21.720 know why they're getting but it marries you. She's like, oh, 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:26.520 they're so exotic, they're so interesting, and she sees all 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.360 the attention they get. So she dresses up and goes 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.520 down to the docks and is all all hall like 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.320 making up languages and pretending to be French or like 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.720 speaking with a French accent. And she's asking for money 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.120 and she's getting it. People are like, oh, you're so 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:46.280 beautiful and exotic. Here, here's this a tuppance, there's here's 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.719 that I don't know what they're giving up. And she's like, 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.720 I'm going to save up this money to make it 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.400 to the US of a this new nation that's out there. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.760 Um so here this is just building it up. Right 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.680 if you were in her position, like, if you wanted 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.640 to go somewhere and you had absolutely nothing, what would 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.240 you do? What do you mean, like, am i her? 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.240 Am I a woman in England? Or am I a 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:12.000 woman in England? Yeah, it would be a different story. 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:16.240 Like you in England, black man in England, I have 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:20.199 a very different So I'm like, okay, what am I stealing? 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.480 And how I'm getting to the box and stealing a boat? 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:27.120 My hiding. So it's just something to think about, think 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.599 about what her options were. And then we're going to 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.000 take a quick commercial break, okay, because I'm gonna need 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.320 to do some math. Yeah, you're definitely going to. Then 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.320 we're gonna come back and I'm going to let you 0:10:36.400 --> 0:11:04.360 know how Mary brought the ridiculous Okay, so we're back. Hi, Hey, 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:08.119 how you doing. I want you to picture this. It's Thursday, 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:18.079 April three, eighteen. A woman staggers into Almondsbury, England, into 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:23.280 the town square. It's Mary, but she's no longer Mary. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:27.000 How does that work? I'm about to tell you. She's 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:31.360 wearing all black and a turban. She's learned to tie 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.360 a turban completely, Yeah, she's learned to tie a turban. 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.600 She's it's very sort of Mrs Howell from Gilligan's Island 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.640 in my mind. And so she's got this turban on. 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.600 It's her outfit has almost like an Asian styling to it. 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.960 So it's she looks way out of place in Almondsbury 0:11:50.280 --> 0:12:00.920 and everyone is talking about her amazing eyebrows. They are 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:05.160 on early fleet. They're beautifully arched. I'm imagining them as 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:09.120 those nineties really thin, like oh yeah, probably not. Maybe 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.120 they're like maybe she just penciled them on like wicked heavy. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:16.400 But she got like chardon eyebrows are like super high. Okay, 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.000 that's what is That's what she's doing. But she's also 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.800 got the turban. She's a looker, I wish, oh yeah. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:27.720 But she's also tired and hungry, and she had like 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.520 a couple coins on her, and one of them is 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:35.360 a fake sixpence, which just fun fact at the time 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.559 counterfeit money. If you had it, it could be punishable 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:42.000 by death. Wait, just on your person, not that you 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.480 made it or you were to be using it. You 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:50.080 have it possession is yeah, that sounds okay, We're going. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:54.640 So she's got some coins, she has some soap. She 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.920 has a little piece of soap wrapped up in a 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.720 cloth and like pinned to her outfit. Is there some 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:05.520 keep clean? I thought maybe she was like writing on soap. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.360 I'm from I don't know about she was going around 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:15.480 soaping people's windows. She knows how to write, and so 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.880 she because she's stumbling in and she's really not saying anything, 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.280 and she's just just like disheveled mess. They take her 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.600 to the house of the county magistrate and his name 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.880 is Samuel Warrel. Don't worry about it, and the county 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:31.280 magistrates basically the old school sheriff. Yeah, and I don't know, 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:34.280 I mean hose also like the lawyer these the law 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.360 of the land. Uh. So he and his wife have 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:41.720 this Greek servant who speaks all these languages and none 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.240 of them, none of the three of them can understand 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:48.920 what she's saying. She's like la and they're like, oh, 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:54.800 that doesn't what can you keep going? So they finally 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:58.679 figure out that her name is Caribou, but not like 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:03.679 the animal like c A R A b oo, so 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:07.959 it's like the heart, the boo of my heart. So 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:12.120 she's like pointing at herself, all Caribou, Cariboo, like whatever 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.200 you say, lady, and everyone is trying to decode what 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.720 she's saying. So like travelers come through there sending out 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.960 messages like send us your language experts, and people show 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.920 up there. I don't know what she's saying wild. She 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.760 becomes like a challenge, like totally she's the she's the 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:32.960 local puzzle. Finally, this Portuguese sailor comes to town, which 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:38.720 like you know, I suppose happens, and he says, oh, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.400 I can I can figure out what she's saying. It's 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.920 not a pure language, it's a mix. It's some from 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.160 the coast of Sumatra and other kind of aisles from 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.760 the east. And she tells him that she's from an 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:54.560 island called Java su Okay and that she was abducted 0:14:54.560 --> 0:15:03.000 by pirates and that she jumped overboard and swam to shore. Okay, 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.120 and there she is. She's okay. So she's in Java, 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.480 Java Sue, sorry, Java Su, speaking her weird language. She's 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.200 abducted by pirates. The pirates then take her somewhere to 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.720 the Atlantic, where she jumps overboard. I would hope, so 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.240 unless it's like five miles off and she's one of 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.840 those long distance swimmers. So basically she's had to cross 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.440 the or either around like the Cape of Africa to 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.040 the Cape of Good Hope, South Africa, and then you 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.240 come back up around the top and then she's got 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.600 to get up like trade winds, cross the equator and 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.920 then like get all the way up to England. That's 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:40.520 like heck of a journey. Yeah, that's her. And then 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:41.640 at the end of that she's like, you know what, 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:45.680 I'm getting off this boat. But I've got my soap 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:50.720 and I've got my phony coins. So she she that's 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.520 how she said. Now we're she in the Portuguese sailor 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:57.040 and on this and he's like, oh, no, I can understand, 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.560 Like if he's saying she speaks this mix of languages, 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.080 don't know, he sounds fishy. Have you seen an istar? Yes, 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.120 there's the scene with Dustin Hoffman is doing the fake 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.320 language and Warren Beatty comes down and he pretends he 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:11.400 understands him that's going on. And I think that she 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.040 looked like Warren Beatty and he looked exactly like Dustin 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:19.560 Hoffman in the in the like the lithograph in my 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:23.560 head of Warren Batty was wearing a turban. So wait, 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:28.200 is that her life story? Um? So she he probably 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.760 was running his own con the Portuguese. He probably wasn't 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:35.560 even a Portuguese sailor. He's just you know, he's from Devonshire. Yeah, 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.680 and he's just pretending. So. But the thing is is 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:42.600 that everyone has this like hunger for the exotic, right. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.840 They want to have this interesting person that's come into 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.320 their little village life and the worlds. The magistrate and 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.080 his wife are skeptical, but they decide, you know what, 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.000 we're all in. We believe her. This is great, We've 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.920 got this weird oddity in town. I think too that 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.280 this is like, this is the Georgian era. What does 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.200 that mean? I mean, I know what it means. What 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.080 does it mean? Well, I think what's more important it's 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.760 also the Romantic era, when you're talking about literature and 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:14.280 the arts, the Romanticism. So the writers and poets of 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:19.120 the day words Worth, Shelley Blake keats byronic huge influence 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.920 as those are the Romantic poets, um and they they 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:26.400 think that deep feelings are the most real thing, more 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:30.560 than reason, and everything is sort of pastoral. And they 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:36.119 also there's like a huge lean on orientalism in the 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:40.679 Romantic era. So you have like Samuel T. Coleridge's Kubla 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:44.800 Kan super heavy on the orientalism, and it becomes really, 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.679 you know, big thing with the public. There's always all 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:55.359 these exotic settings, supernatural, exotic, extravagant events, the characters, all 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:59.359 this other stuff. Right, So keeping that in mind of 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:03.479 what's kind of the zeitgeist of the time, Mary Slash 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:07.639 Caribou starts telling people she was born in China, and 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:11.040 I guess she's using her made up language to convey this. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.080 She says she's born in China. She says her dad 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:20.520 is named Jessu Mandu. He's a nobleman. Natural, yeah, super 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:24.440 Chinese name. Says my dad was a farmer always yeah, 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:28.840 just like when people are reincarnated, it's yeah. And she 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.639 said her mom was a Malay woman and she her 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:37.000 mom was killed in a fight between cannibals. Between two 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:38.879 cannibals were fighting, and as she tried to stop it, 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:46.040 feeling like she had like a pirate adventure romantic era 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:52.600 um refrigerator magnet side, she's just thrown up. She's a pirates, 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:56.760 cannibals Chinese nobleman. Now this is also, this is this 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:02.160 English woman. I don't know how she's passed for Chinese. Well, 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:03.680 I mean, I guess if you don't travel much, you 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.240 didn't know what Chinese looks like, a little bit like, 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.080 oh well this this must be Yeah, she said so, 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:11.879 but here's some other stuff. Right, so we know she 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:15.440 knows how to read, right, she knows the Hebrew alphabet. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:19.000 She knows how to swim. She's also a really good fencer. 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:24.280 Why is she where is she getting less? I don't know. 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.760 So she's a fencer. She can use a bow and arrow. 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.080 Of course, I'm not even a question anything anymore. So, 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.280 I mean, this is the thing is that you see 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.919 this woman and she's telling these crazy stories. But at 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.600 the same time she's got these mad skins, crazy skills. Yeah, 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.800 I'm with it. So it's like what you can believe her. Yeah, 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:45.359 she's really in the skinny dipping Okay, who is it that? Really? 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.520 She also prayed to this god that she called Allah Talah. 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:54.280 She just always takes something and goes just to the 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:56.680 left of it. I've heard about Allah. What if it 0:19:56.760 --> 0:20:02.000 doubled up? She's like, really know enough about Islam, so 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:06.399 I'll do an islam adjacent Ala to law. They stole 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.520 from our people, but from my people, and they took 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:14.360 that name. Like this incredible. You know, she's amazing grouping 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:18.399 of cultures that she's compiled, I suppose through her reading. 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:20.879 But again, how do you know how to fence? But 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:25.600 also this is like what eighteen fifteen, there's very little known. 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.399 There's very few people could be like that's actually not true, right, 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.800 But she would challenge people to sword fights and like 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.880 apparently she could fight with a sword in one hand 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:38.520 and a dagger in the other. She's like fighting Pirates style. Yeah, 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:43.440 totally her. And so do we know if she actually 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:47.720 ever was with pirates? No, the timing doesn't work that 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:52.160 she when she walks basically from Bristol and then it's 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:55.240 like help, help, somebody help, I just washed up on shore. 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:57.720 She shows up like seventy years past the end of 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:00.320 the age of piracy, so it's like, yeah, an old 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.879 pirate new she's like a leftover it was. It's like 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:06.840 you know those the guys like in World War two 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:11.440 who didn't know the war was over and there, Yeah, totally, 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:13.720 So like she's on one of those pirate ships that 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:18.400 they're just like like, why isn't there anything good? We're lost, man, 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:24.480 I've been drinking their own pe for like a decade. Sorry, 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:29.879 so help me a lot to law. Uh. They keep 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.880 trying to decode her language because don't forget she still 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.320 is acting like she doesn't speak English the whole time, 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:40.000 the whole time. And yeah, so she starts to you 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:43.320 know what, I'll write down my language. I am supposing 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:48.399 that we've retained the Portuguese sailor this whole time. So 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:50.760 he's like, let me act as the translator. She says, 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:53.080 she'll write it down. So she starts writing down her language. 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.280 They send it off to Oxford to be like where 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.520 where is this from? Help us? And they you know, 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:01.360 there's a down at Oxford in a row. He looks 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:04.960 it over and he gives this official verdict. What is it? 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:09.520 He calls it humbugs Oxford. You know, they have nothing 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:13.720 better to do than sit there and go no, big nope. 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:17.119 And this news comes back and people are still like, 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:22.760 she's amazing, isn't she This Chinese pirate queen. She's so convincing. 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:27.040 So she's acting like she doesn't understand English, and she's 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:30.200 eavesdropping on what people are saying about her, so she 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:33.640 can kind of know what they're expecting. And like someone's like, well, 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:38.360 if she is really from that region, she's probably I'm 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:41.520 not going to drink alcohol, and so she would turn 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:43.040 it down. So when they come in and they like 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.320 try and tricker like here have some brandy, and she's 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:50.480 like in her language, no, no, no, you know please no, 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.359 A lot to law wouldn't allow it. And she's like, oh, 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:55.560 well you know what she got us. So they're all 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:57.600 talking in front of her like, oh, she doesn't understand 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.520 what we say, but she knows everything. She's also secretly 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.760 studying these maps of like so that she can point 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:07.040 things out, and people would come with documents and she's 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:09.280 like reading them upside down because they think she can't 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:13.920 read in English, and she's really sneaky. Then she starts 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.320 making these appearances in London. They're like sending her off 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:20.080 to London as this amazing oddity, and she's getting into 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:24.080 the papers and it's getting oh yeah completely, so she's 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:28.760 like and they're like, oh my god, she's so amazing. 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.680 And then she like runs around with a dagger and 0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:39.600 it really was and it doesn't take much. And so 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:44.040 she's in the papers and she's just like getting more 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.440 and more fame, which she knows she's got to love. 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:51.240 And then Mrs Neil picks up a newspaper. Remember Mrs Nei, 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:53.439 oh yeah, you told me to remember her. Yeah, did 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:58.800 you check your notes? So Mrs Neil reads about her 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:02.479 and it's like, you know what, I'm going to Bristol, 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.160 that little b I'm going down. She's just like she's 0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:09.200 I'm sure that she's like all mesmerized by this story. 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.879 And then sees a picture of her and it's like no, no, no, no, 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.320 no no, that's not Cariboo. No no, no, no, no, no, 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:20.480 load up, everybody. She calls her footman, load up and 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:23.919 off they go. So the jig looks to be up 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:28.040 that Cariboo has no idea that Mrs Neil has made. 0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:31.159 There's no way. So she's just you know, doing some 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:35.440 light NiFe knife fighting in the yard and skinny dipping 0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:42.240 and doing her thing, and here comes Mrs Neil galloping. 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.320 But maybe she's on lone horseback. She didn't load up 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:51.480 a carriage. Yeah, just like she she put her pocketbook 0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:57.120 on and just got on the horse. Yeah. So I'm 0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.800