1 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome to BLEEP. I'm Anna Navarro. Thanks for 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: being here. We've got such a great show planned for you. 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Today. 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: We have Congresswoman Promila Jaya Pal. She's here to break 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: down the Save Act and other complicated things going on 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: in Congress. We're also covering and we're going to talk 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: about what's the revelations about Cesar Chravis. Very hard to 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: talk about, but we are going to do it. But 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: first I want to start with Trump's comments about Governor 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom's dyslexia. Yet another shameful thing that Trump has done. 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Yet another instance where Trump has shown us the bully 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: that he is. So last week, Trump mocked Governor Gavin 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: Newsom for his learning disability and an appearance at the 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: White House. Governor Newsom just wrote a book. It's called 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: young Man in a Hurry. I went to Miami and 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: saw him speak about it, and in it he speaks 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: openly and he discusses his dyslexia, his learning disability, and 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: what a Trump do? This is his quote, we have 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: a low IQ person, you know, because Gavin Newscom has 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: admitted that he is that he has learning disabilities. Honestly, 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm all for people with learning disabilities, but not for 22 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: my president. I don't want I think the president should 23 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: not have learning disabilities. Okay, and I know it's highly 24 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: controversial to say such a horrible thing, So just let's 25 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: start with that last line. 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: He knows that what he is saying is horrible. 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: He knows that he is president of the United States, 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: where there are so many people with learning disabilities, and 29 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't care. He says it anyways because he has 30 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: no impulse control, he has verbal diarrhea. 31 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: Is that a learning disability? 32 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: No, that is something that he chooses to do on 33 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: a daily basis and hurt everyday American. So let's go 34 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: through some of the statistics. Dyslexia impacts fifteen percent of 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: the US population. Over twenty percent of the US population. 36 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: That's roughly one in every five people is affected by 37 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: a learning disability. There's so many famous people who have 38 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: achieved so much success because they've overcome a learning disability. 39 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: They've had to do it some other ways. I know 40 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: people in my life. One of them is Whoopi Goldberg. 41 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: She is an egot something Trump will never be. Somebody 42 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: who's won an Emmy, a Grammy, an Oscar, and a 43 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: Tony Whoopi Goldberg has dyslexia, has talked about it openly. 44 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: Albert Einstein is widely believed to have had dyslexia, President Eisenhower, 45 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: Winston Churchill, Thomas Edison, Richard Branson, Steve Jobs, Charles Schwab, 46 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: Henry Ford, Magic Johnson, Muhammad Ali. The list is so 47 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: incredibly long. And let's just understand something when when Trump 48 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: says something like that, just so nonchalantly, so flippantly, so cruelly, 49 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: does he not realize that not only that that dyslexia 50 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: and learning disabilities, they're not partisan, they only they not 51 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: only just go and affect liberals and Democrats, they affect 52 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: all sorts of people, including including the son of Senator 53 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: Bill Cassidy, a Republican from Louisiana. He is a doctor 54 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: and a parent of a child with dyslexia, and he 55 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: has been in Congress one of the most active advocates 56 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: and champions on the issue. He passed legislation including the 57 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: Read Act. National Dyslexia Awareness Month is October. 58 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: All of those things were. 59 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Championed by Bill Cassidy, again a Republican. And you know, 60 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: this is just so par for the course with Donald Trump. 61 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: He thinks somehow it makes him stronger to pick on 62 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: somebody he sees as weaker. It makes him weaker. It 63 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: reveals his own insecurity, It reveals him for what he is, 64 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: a school bully who happens to be president. 65 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: And let's you know, we could spend. 66 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: All day going through the times that Donald Trump has 67 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: been a bully, has mocked people with disability, has mocked 68 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: people for their appearance. He mocked the disabled New York 69 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: Times reporter and did an impression of him in the 70 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: first campaign in twenty fifteen. 71 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: He mocked Biden for his stutter. He mocked John McCain, 72 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: who had suffered so greatly as a prisoner of war 73 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: he could not lift his arm. He calls women piggy, 74 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: he calls women horse face. The amount of people that 75 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: he has said are dumb as a rock, that he 76 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: has questioned their IQ, the amount of times that he 77 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: has used racist probes. And I bring this all up 78 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: because we cannot allow ourselves to get numb to this. 79 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: We cannot allow ourselves to normalize this. And I'll tell 80 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: you why. It's not. 81 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: For Gavin Newsom. Listen, Gavin Usom is very comfortable in 82 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: his skin. He's very confident. 83 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: He knows who he is, he knows he. 84 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: Has overcome a learning disability and become the governor of California, 85 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: will be running for president, I assume. But the reason 86 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: we have to not normalize it, the reason we have 87 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: to condemn it and call it out every single time 88 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: and not get tired of being outraged, is for the children. 89 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: For the children listening, For the children who are going 90 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: to get bullied by other bullies because they heard Trump 91 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: say it, For the children who are in classrooms right 92 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: now struggling to overcome dyslexia. And so that should make 93 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 1: all of us pissed as hell at Trump's continued picking 94 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: on people just because he doesn't like them, just because 95 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: they are of another party. It's not about Gavin Newsom, 96 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: It's about our children. So yes, we have to continue 97 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: talking about it. We've got an incredible guest. It's Congresswoman 98 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: Primeila Jaya pal I wanted her on today because I 99 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: think she is one of the most effective effective explainers. 100 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: I always say to her, she has got the ability 101 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: to explain complex shit and break it down into digestible bits. 102 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: So we'll see her after the break. Welcome back to 103 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: the show. Everyone, We're gonna get right to this next 104 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: guest because we have limited time and so much to 105 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: talk about. And I really wanted to have Congresswoman Parmila 106 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: Jaya pal on because every time I see her on 107 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: TV explaining something, she does such a good job. So 108 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, there's a bunch of dumb dumbs in Congress, 109 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: this woman is one of the intelligent ones. So welcome 110 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: to the Congresswoman from the seventh District of Washington, Pramila Jayapath. 111 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Anna, it's so good to be 112 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: with you, and thanks for the great introduction. 113 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 4: I do. 114 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: I love hearing you talk, and I feel like there's 115 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: sometimes that I'm listening to some of your colleagues on TV, 116 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: and I swear to God, I can feel my brain 117 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: cells dying with you. Every time I listen to you, 118 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: I feel like I've learned something or understood something better 119 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: than I did before listening to you. So I want 120 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: to get right into something which I think is really 121 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: relevant and important and just very confusing. 122 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: And with so much going on. 123 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: Right We've got the Epstein files, We've got the war 124 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: with Iran, We've got so much going on, and this 125 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: is something that I don't think has gotten as much 126 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: attention as it deserves. But I want to talk to 127 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: you about the Save Act, and really specific I wanted 128 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: to talk to you because of your ability to explain 129 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: complicated shit. So can you explain this piece of legislation 130 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: to us and just give me the kind of like 131 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: the worst parts about it, the best parts about it. 132 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: What's going on here? 133 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: What is the same Act? 134 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: So the Save Act is a bill that Republicans put 135 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: forward because they want to restrict your ability to vote, 136 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: and they want to frame it as well, we just 137 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: need voter ID, which sounds okay, right, Like you think 138 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: about that and you're like, all right, we want to 139 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: make sure that people have ID when they're voting, that 140 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: it's legitimate. But I would just point out on a 141 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: first of all, that there is almost no documented instance 142 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: of fraud in voter elections. In fact, in the last election, 143 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: the Heritage Foundation was a conservative foundation, on their own 144 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: website they said that there was one one instance of 145 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 3: somebody voting who shouldn't have. So this is a manufactured 146 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: issue number one. But number two, let's look at what 147 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 3: this bill actually does. It says that the two pieces 148 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: of identification that you could use would be a birth 149 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: certificate or a US passport. That means you can't use 150 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: a driver's license to show that you are actually who 151 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: you say you are. It also says that for states 152 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: that have mail in voting, like my state, you wouldn't 153 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 3: be able to use that mail in voting. At the 154 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: same time, you would still need to show this kind 155 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: of ID, so it essentially eliminates mail in ballots. But 156 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: now let's think about passports and birth certificates. I don't 157 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: know about you, but fifty percent of Americans if I 158 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: said do you know where your birth certificate is? I 159 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: think most people would say no, idea, not sure I 160 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 3: even got one, don't know where it is. And then 161 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: on top of that, if you look at passports, fifty 162 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: percent of Americans don't have passports. They don't travel, it 163 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: costs a lot of money to get one. And if 164 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: you are a woman who changed your name when you 165 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 3: got married, it probably means that your driver's license is 166 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: not the same as your birth certificate, which means again 167 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 3: that you are up a creek without the paddle. 168 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: And what I need to show the birth certificate and 169 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: the marriage certificate, And what if I'm one of these 170 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: women who's had four husbands. So Elizabeth Taylor would have 171 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: been in a hell of a pickle, that's. 172 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: Right, And you know, this is affecting everybody. It was interesting. 173 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: I was on my flight home last week and the 174 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: flight attendant came up to me and said, you are 175 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: going to vote no on the Save Act, right, And 176 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: I was so surprised that she had heard about it, 177 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: because it hasn't gotten that much, you know, play in 178 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: the media. But she was just livid about the idea 179 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: that she would have to spend money and time trying 180 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: to either get a passport. She was a flight attendant, 181 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: so she you know, she was like, look, I do 182 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: travel outside, so I do have a passport. But the 183 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: idea that somebody would have to either get a passport 184 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 3: or have a birth certificate and have to go through 185 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: this rigmarole every single time they want to vote is 186 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 3: you know. She said, I feel like they're just trying 187 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: to get me not to vote. And I said, bingo, 188 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: that's exactly what's happening. 189 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: But you know something I don't understand though, because this 190 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: is going to affect Republican women, for example, as much 191 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: as it's going to affect Democratic women or independent women. 192 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: I live in South Florida. I'm from Miami. 193 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: In Miami, there's a lot of people from countries that 194 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:32,599 Speaker 1: are communist hellholes, like Nicaragua where I'm from, or Cuba, 195 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: or Venezuela, or places like Haiti, and a lot of 196 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: these people actually vote Republican, right the Cuban Americans to 197 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: the Venezuelan Americans do, the Nicaragua Americans do. Getting a 198 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: birth certific a copy of a birth certificate from Cuba. 199 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: Good luck is with that if you need it to 200 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: do it. 201 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: So I read this and I think to myself, this 202 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: is going to cause as much harm and as much 203 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: pain to Republicans as it is to have everybody else 204 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: in Florida absentee. Mail in voting has been incredibly important, 205 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: and there was a time when Republicans dominated that because 206 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: they did the work. So why is it that instead 207 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: of wanting to win elections and drive people to the 208 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: vote to vote, they want less people voting. 209 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: I don't understand that. 210 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 3: I think they have a theory that if voter turnout 211 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 3: is high, that it benefits Democrats. That's actually not true. 212 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: That hasn't always been the case. It certainly isn't the 213 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: case in every election. And you're absolutely right about mail 214 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: in ballots because remember during COVID, there was a big 215 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: push to try and get people not to vote mail 216 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: in even if they could, and it hurt Republicans. And 217 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: so I think that this is something that is bipartisan. 218 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: And you know, it's not just those countries you named. 219 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I was born in India. I'm an immigrant 220 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: from India. If I had to try and get my 221 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: birth certificate from India would be impossible. I'm not sure. 222 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: I just don't even know that I could do it. 223 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: And so I think that you're right to point out 224 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 3: that this is not a partisan issue, but Republicans are 225 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: making it partisan. I think it's a big mistake for 226 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: them because I think it is going to, you know, 227 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: really hurt their own turnout. But I think it goes 228 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 3: to this idea that Donald Trump is obsessed with the 229 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: idea that we might take back the House, maybe even 230 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 3: the Senate in November, and he wants to do everything 231 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: he can to stop people from being able to vote 232 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: and has some idea that somehow that's going to benefit him, 233 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: which I don't think is true. 234 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: And ironically enough, there's now several states, and most of 235 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: them are Republican states like Florida, that have passed versions 236 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: of state versions of the Save Act. Right, So they 237 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: are I think, going to shoot themselves in the foot. 238 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: But why do you think Trump is so obsessed with this? 239 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: My theory is that his base is pissed. His base 240 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: voted for him because they said because he said he 241 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: was not going to go into forever wars, because he 242 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: said he was not going to start more wars, and 243 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: he has his base is pissed with him because he 244 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: hasn't released the Epstein files, because nobody's getting prosecuted, nobody's 245 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: getting investigated regarding the Epstein files. So I think that 246 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: in addition to trying to use this as an intimidation 247 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: tactic and get people not to go out and vote, 248 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: he is also trying to get his base all riled 249 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: up and to rally behind something which is the same act. 250 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: No, that's right, and no, I think you're absolutely right. 251 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I was on the floor this morning, and 252 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: you know this, because we've talked about immigration so much 253 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: in this country, you know, they this was an issue 254 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: that Trump ran on, and you could argue that in 255 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: many places people sort of went to him in part 256 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: because of the immigration issue, in part because he said 257 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: he wasn't going to get into forever wars, in part 258 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: because he said he was going to lower costs on 259 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: day one. Remember that. But what has happened now is 260 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: that the country has turned against him, not only on immigration, 261 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: but on the economy, on the war. And he is 262 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: still of the mind that if he blames everything on 263 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: undocumented immigrants in this country, and he makes this about 264 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: voter fraud around undocumented immigrants in this country, that somehow 265 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: that's going to be a winning tactic for him. And 266 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: this morning we were debating a bill called the bow 267 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: Wow Act. Basically, they have the same formula every time 268 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: they take something that is already a crime, that is 269 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: already a deportable issue if you are convicted of that crime, 270 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: and then they try to say that without a conviction, 271 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: just for being accused of a crime, you can now 272 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: deport people. And I got up there and I said, 273 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: why are we wasting time on this? I don't even 274 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: understand because the reality is that gas in Washington State 275 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: is now over five dollars a gallon for regular unleaded 276 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: diesel is over six bucks. Childcare has gone through the roof. 277 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: Healthcare has gone through the roof. That's what people care about. 278 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: They care about the war in Iran, which is another 279 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: senseless war that now the Pentagon is apparently going to 280 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: request two hundred billion dollars from US for that war, 281 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: and which is not authorized. It's illegal, and it is 282 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: driving up prices for Americans along with thirteen at least 283 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: thirteen service members lives that have already been lost. So 284 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: I think you're right, it is it is an attempt 285 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: for him once again to try and have people not 286 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 3: pay attention to all the things they're angry about, even 287 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: the people that voted for him. 288 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: The Heritage Foundation in their study, they found something like 289 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: seventy seven cases of voter fraud, you know, with non 290 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: citizens trying to vote, voting in twenty four years. I mean, 291 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: and people, you know, to me, this is so ridiculous 292 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: and I don't even understand how people buy it. So 293 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: let's just let's just be practical about where we are 294 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: with how undocumented immigrants in this country are feeling. They 295 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: are having their Appendixes bursts, they are having all sorts 296 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: of medical emergencies, and. 297 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: They're too afraid to go to the hospital. 298 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: They are afraid to send their children to school, They 299 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: are afraid to go up and go out and work. 300 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: And so you think the same people who are afraid 301 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: to take their children to school and go to the 302 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: hospital when they have medical emergencies are going to show 303 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: up at an election site and vote illegally. 304 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 2: I mean, what are. 305 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: These people smoking. It's just so patently ridiculous to me. 306 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: The other question I have on the SAVE Act, though, 307 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: is if I try to go get a driver's license, 308 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: or or if I try to go get Social Sie 309 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: Security benefits, the government has the ability to cross check 310 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: whether I am a citizen or not, and whether I 311 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: am eligible for these entitlements, whether I am eligible for 312 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: a real ID. 313 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: So why can't Why Why. 314 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: Is the owners on me as a voter to show 315 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: you that I am a citizen when you, as a government, 316 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: already have the ability to check whether I am a 317 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: citizen or not. 318 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: I don't understand that part. 319 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: Well, you're trying to make things be logical, and none 320 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: of none of these people are logical. 321 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: So what are the possibilities? 322 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: Because I keep reading that the Save Act doesn't have 323 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: a chance of passing, but then I keep seeing Republicans 324 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: really trying to do all sorts of things with the 325 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: filibuster and the Senate, and it actually they the Senate 326 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: last week took it up for debate. So what are 327 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: the chances of passing and what should American citizens be 328 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: doing right now to fight this? 329 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: Well, right now, everyone should be calling your US senator 330 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: and telling them, do not vote for this. Vote no 331 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 3: on it, kill it. For all the reasons that we've 332 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: been talking about. It passed the House on a party 333 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 3: line vote barely. It went to the Senate. They cannot 334 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: pass it in the Senate unless they have sixty votes. 335 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: That's the filibuster. I always say the filibuster gives forty 336 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 3: mostly white men, who represent about twelve percent of the 337 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: country's population, the ability to block everything. It comes in 338 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 3: handy every once in a while. This is one of 339 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: the places where it has come in handy. Because they 340 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 3: do need sixty votes to pass this. That means they've 341 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: got to get Democrats on board, and they've got to 342 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: keep their entire Republican caucus on board. Lisa Murkowski had 343 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: already said that she was not for this bill. So 344 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: there are some Republicans one or two that are saying 345 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: that they're concerned about this. And so what Thun is doing, 346 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: John Thune, the Senate majority leader, is he's trying to appea. 347 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 3: He's Trump. Trump has suddenly decided that this is his 348 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: number one priority. Not to bring down your gas prices, 349 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 3: not to bring down cost of living, price of groceries, 350 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: not to address this illegal war, none of those things. 351 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 3: He's decided this is the number one priority. And so 352 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: Thune is and what he's saying is anna that he's 353 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 3: not going to endorse John Cornyn in Texas for his 354 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 3: US Senate seat unless the Senate takes up this bill 355 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: and pushes it across the finish line. I just don't 356 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: think that that is going to be feasible. But I 357 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: don't put anything past them. They may just decide in 358 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: a procedural move to end the filibuster tomorrow because of 359 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 3: Trump's bullying, and that would be very, very bad. And 360 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 3: so that's why it's really important for people to call 361 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 3: their US senator, whether you're a Republican, whether you're a Democrat, 362 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 3: whether you're an independent, and tell them this is not good. 363 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: I should not have to do this. You already have 364 00:20:59,400 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: my information. 365 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: Can we talk about it? Because a lot of people 366 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: tell me, a lot of people ask me, what can 367 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: little me do? 368 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: I'm just a regular American? What does it matter? 369 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: So when somebody calls your offices, right, when somebody calls 370 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: a congressional office, what happens? 371 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 2: And at what point does it matter? 372 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: It really matters. So what happens is it gets logged 373 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: into the system that you called and why you called. 374 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: It's particularly important if you're a constituent. You know, we 375 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: log things differently if you're calling from outside of the district. 376 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: But if you're calling for my district, it means that 377 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: you have the potential to vote for me. And I'm 378 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: particularly paying attention to what you think because I am 379 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 3: representing you, right, That's who I represent. So we log 380 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: it by and we look at the numbers, and I 381 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 3: get a report every day from my staff how many 382 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: people called in on what issue? How do they feel 383 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 3: about it? What do they say about it? We track 384 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 3: emails in the same way so that I really have 385 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 3: a sense of what my constituents are thinking. So your 386 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: call really does matter. I will say your phone call 387 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 3: is more impactful than your email, just because somebody gets 388 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 3: to talk to you and they get to hear what 389 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 3: you have to say. And a personalized email is much 390 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: better than sort of a form email because we can 391 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 3: see if you know, three hundred people are sending me 392 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: the exact same email. I take that as a campaign. 393 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: If somebody sends me their personal story, like the flight 394 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: attendant that's stopped me and said, here's why I'm really angry. 395 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: I sometimes use those stories on the floor. In fact, 396 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: I just did that this morning because I had an 397 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: Afghanistan war veteran who stood up at a town hall 398 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: that I had last week and told me he had 399 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: been a sergeant in the Marines, and he said, I 400 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: have been in forever. War is my entire adult life, 401 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: and I don't want another one. And so those stories 402 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: are very powerful because we can give voice to them 403 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: on the floor and we can use them to connect 404 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 3: with other people who might be in the exact same 405 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: situation as you are. 406 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: And the phone number, guys, for all of you, it 407 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: is two O two two two five three one two one. 408 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: You can call that hotline and you can ask to 409 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: be switched over to your congress person or your senators. 410 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: We've talked about you've brought up the Iran war, and 411 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: let's call it a war, because I know your Republican colleagues. 412 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: It's calling it all sorts of things. 413 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: Trump is calling it an excursion, like if I was 414 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: getting off, you know, a celebrity cruise ship and going 415 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: to swim with dolphins. 416 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: Uh, it's not an excursion. It's a war. 417 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the Iran war and how how 418 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: you're feeling about it? 419 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: What what your thoughts are? I mean, I have a 420 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: lot of thoughts. 421 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: I think I think Trump has what I call Venezuela 422 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: derangement syndrome. He thinks everything is going to be as 423 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: easy as Venezuela, and he thinks that if you go 424 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: out there and you sh the military might of America, 425 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: these regimes are going to get scared, be afraid, put 426 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: down their arms, and if you get rid of the 427 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: head then you can find somebody to negotiate with, like 428 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: he did in Venezuela, the vice president. 429 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: But that's my theory. 430 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: What the hell is going on here? 431 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: Well? I think this was about changing the headlines, right. 432 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: It was changing the headlines on the Epstein files and 433 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 3: Trump's whatever Trump's role is in that whole scandal. It 434 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: was changing the headlines on the cost of living and 435 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 3: the fact that people can't afford to live, and one 436 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: way to do that is to go to war. And 437 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 3: I do think you're right that he was told and 438 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: he believed that this was going to be quick. This 439 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: was another way for him to enact regime change. And 440 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 3: early on they said this is a regime change war. 441 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 3: Now they backed away from that since then, but they 442 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 3: have been saying it, and listen, every day their story changes. 443 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: But here's the basic fact of all of this. Number One, 444 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: you cannot go to war without authorization from Congress. Actually, 445 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 3: the founders who crafted our constitution were trying to get 446 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: away from kings and monarchs who suddenly decided because one 447 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 3: guy said it was going to be good for him 448 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 3: and good for the people, lied about that that one 449 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 3: guy could decide to send a country to war, and 450 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: so they explicitly wrote it into the Constitution, and then 451 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 3: it was essentially reinforced again after the Vietnam War that 452 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 3: you have to get authorization from Congress for a war. 453 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: So number one, but everybody does it. 454 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: Everybody does it, and I've been against it for some 455 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 3: time now. Interestingly, even George Bush during the Iraq War, 456 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: came to Congress and asked for authorization. I was not 457 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 3: in Congress at the time. I was on the outside 458 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 3: protesting that because I knew it was going to be 459 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: an endless, forever war. And unfortunately, too many people on 460 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: both sides of the aisles sort of fall for this 461 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: instead of really thinking about what are we trying to achieve, 462 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: what is the best way to achieve it, what are 463 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 3: the potential consequences of war? And so you're right, I've 464 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 3: fought against both Democratic and Republican presidents who have tried 465 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: to do this. I spoke out against Joe Biden in 466 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: the last administration when there were several occasions when he 467 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 3: didn't come to us for authorization. This is even worse 468 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 3: than that because Trump didn't even claim that he needed 469 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 3: to have authorization from Congress. And this is a full 470 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 3: scale war with massive consequences. The thirteen service members killed 471 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: within the first week, right, and global oil prices now 472 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 3: going through the roof and really creating all kinds of 473 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 3: challenges for the region the Middle East, where people are 474 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: being drawn into this with strikes on their oil facilities, 475 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 3: on their cities, on their civilians, and you know it 476 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 3: is it has been an incredibly ill conceived war, and 477 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: I think we have to do everything we can to 478 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: get out of it. It's costing one to two billion 479 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: dollars a day. 480 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: And we just heard, you know, it's been reported that 481 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: one they're thinking about having to put boots on the 482 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: ground in some sort of capacity, and two that they're 483 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: talking about coming to Congress and asking for a two 484 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: hundred billion with a b B supplemental and that is 485 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: something that will require congressional approval. 486 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 2: So that's something that people can call. 487 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: Their congress people and senators on and you should begin 488 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: doing it right now that you're listening to this. 489 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: That's right. 490 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: I want to ask you. You're just so smart and 491 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: I so I want to ask you. And you know 492 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: you're also an honest broker. You know you're an honest broker. 493 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: Try, so let me ask you. 494 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: You brought up your flight attendant friend, let's talk about TSA. 495 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are worried about this. 496 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm moorried about this. I travel four times a week. 497 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: You do too, but my the for me, my inconvenience 498 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: is minor in comparison to the TSA agents who aren't 499 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: getting paid. So are there any conversations actually ongoing right 500 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: now to try to get this solved. And what is 501 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: it going to take. 502 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: Well, we have been pushing very hard for Republicans to 503 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 3: fund TSA and FEMA, right we can fund other parts 504 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: of DHS. DHS. Is this really unwieldy. That's for another podcast. 505 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: But you know, we never should have created DHS. It's 506 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: so unwieldy. It's got all these things thrown in together. 507 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: And then and then and then Trump puts the most 508 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: unqualified people in the world people. 509 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 3: In charge of it. Yes, like Christy No, and so 510 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: who's bye bye Christy No. You know, I think that 511 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: we have said, let's fund TSA, let's fund FEMA. We 512 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 3: have a discharge petition on the on the floor right 513 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: now to do that. I know in the they've put 514 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 3: up bills, and the Democrats have put up bills and 515 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: Republicans have refused. And this all comes down to the 516 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: fact that we don't want to continue to fund a 517 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: lawless ICE and CBP that has been killing American citizens 518 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: and kidnapping people and deporting them across the country, including 519 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 3: most recently in Minnesota. And so we are very happy 520 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: to fund the rest of it, but we want to 521 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: make sure that US citizens are not killed. So we've 522 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 3: asked for a set of significant reforms to CBP and ICE, 523 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 3: and we've said, will fund the rest of it. Republicans 524 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: are saying no, they don't want to do it. They 525 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 3: want to continue to have the ability for ICE and 526 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: CBP to work completely unfettered, to kill whoever. They want 527 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 3: to continue to detain US citizens, to continue to violate 528 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: people's rights and bash indoors without judicial warrants. And we've 529 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 3: just said no, we have to continue to protect our 530 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 3: constitution and the rights of our citizens. Across the country, 531 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: a lot. 532 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: Of Americans always feel like, at the end of the day, 533 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: Democrats always give in. 534 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: They can't. 535 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: You know, Democrats don't have the stomach to see the 536 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: suffering of people the way that Republicans do and not act. 537 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: Do you think Democrats are going to stick together on 538 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: this and continue demanding these reforms. 539 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: I feel like we are because the abuses of ICE 540 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: and CBP were so outrageous and the whole country saw it, 541 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 3: and we have you know, members of Congress who were 542 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 3: never interested in immigration before Anna are paying attention now 543 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: in a way that never has been the case. They 544 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 3: all have a story of a US citizen of a 545 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: legal permanent resident, of an undocumented immigrant who had never 546 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 3: committed any crime, who's been picked up and detained and 547 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: deported and perhaps killed. 548 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: And so, Mamilla, I see those stories from Miami, from 549 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: South Florida of people who supported Trump every single day 550 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: on my timeline, people who are legal permanent rest a Cuban. 551 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: You know, Cubans have never been touched in this country, 552 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: and they are getting deported, some of them to places 553 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: like Sudan and as What's yes, I have a last 554 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: question to ask you, and I'm getting told that you 555 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: have a heart out. I know you've got a plank 556 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: to catch recently, so this is going to be. 557 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: My last question. I promise I could talk to you 558 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: all day. 559 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: Trump, in a recent interview with Fox Morning host Brian Kilmead, 560 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: made a statement. He said that brown people have different 561 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: genetics which make them more prone to violence. 562 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: You're brown, I'm brown. So just how do you how'd 563 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: you feel when when you heard that? 564 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 3: It's so infuriating, and I hear this every day. I'm 565 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: on the Judiciary Committee, I'm the ranking member on the 566 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: Immigration subcommittee. This is an argument that they are making 567 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: every day. They're not even trying to hide the racism. 568 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: They're not even trying to hide the fascism that is, 569 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: you know, that is so much entrenched in this They 570 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: have come out with this white nationalist agenda, led by 571 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 3: Stephen Miller, led by many of those others. It was 572 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: very clearly articulated in Project twenty twenty five. Anybody who 573 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: read that saw it throughout. But this is what they 574 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 3: want to do. They want to make you and me 575 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 3: less than anybody who has white skin. And it is 576 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: really awful to me. I call it out all the 577 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: time in judiciary because what they do is they say 578 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: immigrants commit crimes at higher rates than native born US 579 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: citizens number one. Not true, Not true. Number two. What 580 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 3: they try to do is take one bad actor, and 581 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 3: every population has a bad actor, right, and they try 582 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 3: to say this is who immigrants are. What you and 583 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 3: I know from our own experiences is that immigrants have 584 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: helped build this country. Without immigrants, there would be very 585 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 3: little that would work in the United States States of America, 586 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: and we have so many, you know, they try to 587 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 3: make it seem like all the undocumented, all the Latinos 588 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: in the United States are undocumented. Also not true, and 589 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 3: so I think it is just really important that we 590 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 3: call it out. But we also recognize that what they 591 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 3: are trying to do is divide us and have people 592 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 3: feel like somehow we are less than. And you know, listen, 593 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 3: you and I could take on any of these people 594 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 3: and run circles around them in terms of our arguments, 595 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 3: in terms of how we think about things. And I 596 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 3: think we just have to continue to stand strong for 597 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 3: the people across country who listen to this also and 598 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: feel so hurt, angry, furious because they are contributing so 599 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 3: much to our country and they are being made to 600 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: feel like somehow this is less than. But this is 601 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: a this is a race war. We just have to 602 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 3: be clear about it and stand up against it. 603 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time. I know you 604 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: carved some time for us. Go catch your play. Thank 605 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: you for your wisdom, Thank you for standing up and 606 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: standing strong and calling out the. 607 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: Abuses of power. 608 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: And I hope you become a recurrent guest on here 609 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: because like I said to you, for me, I always 610 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: hear what you have to say, just because you're explaining 611 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: it in such a wonderful way that I can understand it. 612 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: Say thank you in. 613 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 3: India, Uh, you could say, but just thank you in Hindi. 614 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: I'll give it. I'll practice for the next time. 615 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 3: You did great. Thank you for having me. It's great 616 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 3: to talk to you. 617 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 4: Take care, Welcome back everyone. 618 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: As we do every week, we try to highlight heroes 619 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: of the week and cowards of the week. For me, 620 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: the heroes this week are TSA agents. I go through 621 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: airports every single week, at least week, sometimes four or 622 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: more times a week, and it breaks my heart and 623 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: it enrages me that these TSA agents are having to 624 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: go through this again. Let's just remember that it was 625 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: within the last year that TSA agents were not getting 626 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: paid because of the last government shutdown. And they are 627 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: heroes because they are showing up to work to keep 628 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: us safe in the skies without getting paid. Some of 629 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: them are having to sleep in their cars at the 630 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: airport because they don't have money to put gas in 631 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: the tank. Some of them are having to go to 632 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: community kitchens and find people that give them donated food 633 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: so that they can feed their families. 634 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 2: This is just outrageous. I'm going to ask all of. 635 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: You, please, please please, if you have to travel, give 636 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: yourself time, give yourself patience. I have seen some pece 637 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: people lose their patience and they're cool when it comes 638 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: to TSA agents. It's not their fault and they are 639 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: showing up when I think most of us wouldn't show 640 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: up to work in what is already a tough, thankless job. 641 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: So when you see a TSA agent, if you're going 642 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: to travel people like, be courteous, thank them, ask them 643 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: how they're doing, Smile and be patient, and thank you 644 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: to the TSA agents and their families because it's not 645 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: just the agents, it's the families that are wondering how 646 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: the rent is going to get paid that are also 647 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: heroes for sticking with us. So for the Coward of 648 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: the Week this week, we're going to talk about says 649 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: oar Chavist and the revelations of sexual assault committed by him, 650 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: the allegations against him by women who have come forward 651 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: to say what they went through. And this is a 652 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: very hard topic. It's a painful topic, it's a heavy topic, 653 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: but I think we all have the duty to hold 654 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: people accountable, to hold sexual assaulters, particularly those who committed 655 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: the assault against miners. We have to hold them accountable, 656 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: whether we like them or we don't, whether we admire 657 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: them or we don't, whether we know who they are. 658 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 2: Or we don't. 659 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: We have got to hold everyone accountable, and so let's 660 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: talk about these revelations. It was reported in the New 661 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: York Times. This was a story The New York Times 662 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: had been working on for several years, and it's a 663 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: story about two very young girls at the time, just shocking, 664 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: shocking to read. Very young girls. Anna Murgia she was thirteen, 665 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: Debra Rojas, she was twelve, and they are accusing Sesar 666 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 1: Chavis of having assaulted them when they were this age, 667 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: when they were young children living and basically the commune 668 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: that they all shared. And you know, there's such a 669 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: common thread to these cases. There's a common thread of 670 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: men in power who think they can get away with 671 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: anything and think they can do anything, and there's a 672 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: common thread of a circle around them that looks the 673 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: other way and enables them. When one of these girls 674 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: was talking about what happened to her, both of them 675 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: talked about walking past says Ar Chavis's secretary into his 676 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 1: office where he would lock the door and then sexually 677 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: assault them on a yoga mat. One of them talked 678 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,959 Speaker 1: about a bodyguard who stood guard outside the motel room 679 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: as she was getting raped. So always, always, always, it's 680 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: the men themselves committing crimes, particularly against people that can't talk, 681 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: that are we that are weaker than they are, that 682 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: are that are vulnerable, and the people around them who 683 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: enable it. I don't give any of them a pass. 684 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: So this is very painful obviously, first and foremost for 685 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: these women, these women who have carried the shame and 686 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 1: the secret and the trauma in them. 687 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 2: For decades and decades and decades. 688 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: Let's remember this happened fifty years ago, says Our Chaves 689 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: has been dead for thirty years. It's also very painful 690 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: for the Latino community. At a time when our community 691 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:35,280 Speaker 1: is under attack and being discriminated against, st and persecuted 692 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: and prosecuted. We so badly need heroes, and for so 693 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: many in the Latino community, says Our Chavis was a hero. 694 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: This is the month where it's his birthday, and there 695 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 1: are so many places around the country that celebrate sees 696 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 1: Oar Chavis Day that have schools and streets and boulevards 697 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: named for him. 698 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 2: There's parks, there's all sorts of things. 699 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: March has held all over the count to commemorate his 700 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 1: birthday and his legacy and his actions as a civil 701 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: rights leader, as a farm workers rights leader, as somebody 702 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: who led that movement back in the sixties and seventies 703 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: and eighties. So this is very hard for the community 704 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: because I can't think of many or any other Latinos 705 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: who are as widely admired nationally and even internationally as 706 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: Cesar Chavis. I can't think of many other Latinos who 707 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: have as many things named for them as Cisar Chavis, 708 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: who get taught whose story gets taught about in history books. 709 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: And so, yeah, it's the pain of the girls. It's 710 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: the pain of a community reeling from current events and 711 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 1: now having to deal with losing somebody that was an 712 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: icon and a legend. 713 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 2: And it's also personal pain. I read this week the 714 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 2: reaction of. 715 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: One of the victims, I think it was Debitah Rojas, 716 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: and she said she had thought about Sisar Chavis's family, 717 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: his children and grandchildren and great grandchildren and the pain 718 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: this was bringing them. That really touched me because think 719 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: about the grace of that woman who was a sexual 720 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: assault victim, and her thoughts are for his family and 721 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: the pain they're going through. And actually one of his grandchildren. 722 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: One of his granddaughters, Julie Rodriguez Chavis, is one of 723 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: my personal friends, somebody I am very proud of and 724 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: who has done great things. She served in the Obama 725 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,439 Speaker 1: White House. She was the highest ranking Latina to ever 726 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: serve in a White House under Joe Biden in the 727 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: capacity a senior advisor. And she loved, admired her grandfather. 728 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: She was raised by him and with him, and so 729 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: for her this has been personally devastating, and it just 730 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: makes me think about when something like this comes out, 731 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: just the number of lives that are touched and destroyed 732 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:21,720 Speaker 1: and negatively affected as a result. To me, there's something 733 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: positive right of this horrible, horrible story. It's that women, 734 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 1: even if it's ten years after, twenty years after, fifty 735 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 1: years after in this case, are finding their voice and speaking. 736 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: And I'd like to think that it was the women 737 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: who spoke up against Harvey Weinstein and created the me 738 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: Too movement that gave the women the Epstein survivors the 739 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: courage to speak. And I'd like to think it's the 740 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: courage of those Epstein survivors and speaking and showing their 741 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: names and faces and sharing their stories that has given 742 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: these women the courage to speak out. 743 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 2: And I hope that the. 744 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: Courage of these women they were twelve and thirteen years 745 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: old at the time. I hope their courage and their 746 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: stories helps other women come forward and tell their stories 747 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: and point the finger at their aggressors and the men 748 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: who have victimized them, mostly men. And that's why I 749 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: want to give out the number for the sexual assault hotline. 750 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: So if you know anybody, if you yourself are a victim, 751 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: or know anybody right now or suspect of anybody who 752 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: is victimized, you call that number. And it is one 753 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: eight hundred six five six hope, one eight hundred sixty 754 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:47,479 Speaker 1: five six four six seventy three. And again I want 755 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: to thank the women, all the women who have ever 756 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: come forward and spoken and shared their story. You give 757 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: us all strength, you give us all courage. 758 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: That's it. 759 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: Heavy thing to end on. But that's it for this 760 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: episode of Bleep. Thank you again to Congresswoman Jaya Pal, 761 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: Thank you to all of you for giving this podcast 762 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: a listen and a chance. Thank you to all of 763 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: you who leave me comments and suggestions. I am reading them, 764 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm taking them in, I'm bringing them back to the 765 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 1: team and hopefully incorporating them. You can catch this podcast 766 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts or on YouTube. So thank 767 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: you for another week of Bleep with Anna Navarro. 768 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 2: Cha cha you want to say anything? 769 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 4: You got anything left to say? No? 770 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 2: No, no, chut chut? Have you all? Bye bye, Thank 771 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,720 Speaker 2: you everyone, See you next week. 772 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: Bleep with Anna Navarro is a High Finite Media group 773 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: production in partnership with Iheart's Michael Duda podcast network. For 774 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: more of your favorite shows, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 775 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.