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Speaker 1: This This is One Bills Live, presented by Calllida Health, and.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to a Friday edition of One Bills Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Christopher Passo with you. Steve out for the day away

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Speaker 2: on holiday and we're taking you through an obl fan

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Speaker 2: Friday mail bag day. Any questions you got, fire them off,

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Speaker 2: whether it's on Twitter at one Bill's Live, or you

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Speaker 2: can give us a call at eight oh three oh

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Speaker 2: five fifty eight five fifty two fifty Any and all

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Speaker 2: questions Bills related related, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Chris and I will do our best to answer those

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Speaker 2: to the best of our ability before we dive headlong

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Speaker 2: into NFL stuff. I do have to say I saw

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Speaker 2: a tweet on social media and it made me chuckle

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Speaker 2: a little bit, maybe in a sarcastic way, because this

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Speaker 2: guy clearly lives not far from where I live, and

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Speaker 2: he and I are among the homeowners that are experiencing

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Speaker 2: the change in flight path at the Buffalo Airport. For

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Speaker 2: those that don't know, the main runway is being repaved

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Speaker 2: or repored, I should say, because it's concrete runway being

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Speaker 2: repoored basically for the duration of the summer. I think

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Speaker 2: they started in late April or early May. It was

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Speaker 2: right around the draft where they started. So the main runway,

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Speaker 2: which runs northeast to southwest is the most common landing

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Speaker 2: strip for the planes coming in because as we know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of our weather comes out of the southwest.

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Speaker 2: Planes like the lie going in land going into the wind,

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Speaker 2: take off going into the wind. So it's that flight path,

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Speaker 2: and for people in Williamsville, they often see the plane

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Speaker 2: making the last circle to come back down to Cheek

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Speaker 2: to Wogat to land at the airport. That's at pretty

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Speaker 2: high altitude, though it's not really low until it's like

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Speaker 2: crossing Transit Road over by Main Street. So we're all

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Speaker 2: used to that. Now. With that runway closed until September,

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Speaker 2: and god, I hope they're done by September, the flight

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Speaker 2: path has changed to their east west runway, which basically

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Speaker 2: on landing sends planes right through my backyard. And I'm

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Speaker 2: talking wheels down. I can see people in the windows

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Speaker 2: and wave to them from my backyard like that's how

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Speaker 2: close they are. And and it's just been an adjustment.

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Speaker 2: I get it. It's temporary, but man alive. You want

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Speaker 2: to talk about traffic, and look, I get it. I

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Speaker 2: live five minutes from the airport. For those people that

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Speaker 2: live directly around the airport, the government gives them soundproof windows,

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Speaker 2: soundproof doors for living there. It's like an accommodation that

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Speaker 2: is commonly made for homeowners within a certain distance from

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Speaker 2: the actual airport property.

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Speaker 3: We're outside of that. So but you're still getting all

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, oh no, they're not cheating us on

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Speaker 2: the noise, that's for sure. The worst part of it

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Speaker 2: is not the landing as much as it is the

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Speaker 2: taking off at five point thirty in the morning, because

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Speaker 2: when the thing's coming in for a landing, you know,

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Speaker 2: the engines are being throttled back a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 2: they got the flaps down, they're kind of just guiding

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Speaker 2: the thing in. When they're taken off, it's full throttle engines,

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Speaker 2: you know, after burners, whatever the heck they're using. It's

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Speaker 2: loud at five point fifteen in the morning. And I'm

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Speaker 2: and look, I'm an early riser, but I'm just like,

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Speaker 2: geez yai, how many planes are there at five.

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Speaker 3: Of the morning.

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Speaker 4: And this needs to be done for you by September

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Speaker 4: with the bills having so many night games this year.

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Speaker 4: You got to get your sleep right by the time

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Speaker 4: the Bills are playing football again. So hopefully that originally

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Speaker 4: set will be done by September deadline actually comes the

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Speaker 2: And like I said, fortunately for me, I'm an early riser,

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Speaker 2: probably the only thing that's allowing me to tolerate it.

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Speaker 2: I saw my neighbor the other day. I was like,

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Speaker 2: I said, you look exhausted. He goes, can't sleep. I said,

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Speaker 2: why he goes the planes, can't sleep, can't sleep. I'm up,

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Speaker 2: I'm up, and once I'm up, I'm up. And that's it.

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Speaker 2: He goes, I had four hours of sleep last night.

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Speaker 3: Not even he's probably not laughing today about.

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Speaker 2: Well no, so he yeah, he was hot, and you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just it's you know, it's part of the deal.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the way he's not gonna last forever. They

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Speaker 2: got to fix it, safety, all that stuff. I get it,

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Speaker 2: but it's it's We're like almost three months in now,

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Speaker 3: And this has never hoped.

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Speaker 2: They finish on time, not in the time. I've lived

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe those runways have a shelf life

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Speaker 2: of about twenty years ago, you know, So there you go,

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Speaker 2: But man, it is it's taken some adjusting, for sure.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because the little kids love it. They're like, ah,

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Speaker 2: the little kids in the neighborhood, they're just like the

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Speaker 2: parents don't when they're trying to put them down it's,

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Speaker 2: you know, eight o'clock to go to bed. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's it's been an experience this summer for sure, to

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Speaker 2: say the least. So I had to laugh when I

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Speaker 2: saw this guy complaining about it on Twitter. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I feel you, man, I feel you. You did you

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Speaker 2: get away at all since the last time we saw

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Speaker 2: you in here?

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Speaker 4: Yes, we have a cottage in talk with institutions nice

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Speaker 4: that my parents have had since the seventies.

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Speaker 3: They bought it before.

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Speaker 2: There were, So it's on Chatak with Lake.

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Speaker 3: It's in the institution, which is on the lake. We're like,

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Speaker 3: we're pretty far. We're not on the water, We're not

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Speaker 4: We're in the institution. So I was there well the

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Speaker 4: fourth of July with my family. We didn't have any

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Speaker 4: problems with any airplanes flying over our heads, so our

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Speaker 4: kids were well slept, They had a fun time at

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Speaker 4: the beach and things like that. But it kind of

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Speaker 4: feels like we have, like, what one more week and

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Speaker 4: then it's training camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's pretty much the deadline. How how

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Speaker 2: is the fishing down there? Do you know? Is that

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Speaker 2: a good lake?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 4: I don't like I mean, I'll fish, but I don't

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Speaker 4: go on like fishing trips. I have some friends that, yeah,

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Speaker 4: but I have some creational wreck. Yes, some friends and

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Speaker 4: their dads and their uncles that go to Shautaqua Lake

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Speaker 4: for the fishing. Okay, I don't know what kind of

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Speaker 4: fish there are, but apparently it is a almost like

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Speaker 3: King Yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still look with the jobs that we have,

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Speaker 2: there's not a lot of leisure time to do that

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Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But I did get out with my

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Speaker 2: We're just catching release kind of stuff. And so I'm

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Speaker 2: And I've done the salmon fishing up in Lake Ontario,

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Speaker 2: which is a blast.

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Speaker 2: You got to get a charter captain to kind of

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Speaker 2: go and they got the poles with the metal lines

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Speaker 2: and everything. That is a work.

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Speaker 3: That's fun. That is a I've done that, right.

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Speaker 2: It's like you get a big one, it's like a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's it feels like you're trying to like

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Speaker 2: Right and you're only you know, you pull and then

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Speaker 2: you reel up the slack and it's like a foot

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Speaker 2: the reel and it's like you still have four hundred

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Speaker 2: dear God, like is this Am I ever gonna get

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Speaker 2: this thing in? And then sometimes they run on you

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Speaker 2: after you start reeling them in and all the progress

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Speaker 4: But it's a good day out on the there goes

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Speaker 4: day early in the morning, you're out there, plenty of

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Speaker 2: It's I've seen a lot of fun. I've seen the

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Speaker 2: statement board that says the worst day fishing is still

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Speaker 2: better than the best day working, and that is one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty percent true. I guess unless it's pouring

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Speaker 2: and there's lightning and you run the risk of getting

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Speaker 2: hit since lightning is attracted to water. But that's neither

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Speaker 2: here nor there. As we mentioned, it is fan Mailbag Friday.

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Speaker 2: Any question you have about the bills, the league, get large,

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Speaker 2: Steve and I were discussing some of those on our

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Speaker 2: latest podcast, Bills by the Numbers, So if you want

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Speaker 2: that out. It's up on all your podcast platforms. But

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Speaker 2: around the NFL now because there are some interesting news

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Speaker 2: and notes that are developing here. Obviously, the big news

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Speaker 2: yesterday was the Quinn Williams contract four years, ninety six

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Speaker 2: million dollars. There is not nearly as seismic Jets news today.

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Speaker 2: But Aaron Rodgers, who's out at the American Century Championship

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Speaker 2: in Lake Tahoe. As a lot of football players are

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Speaker 2: playing in that tournament, I wouldn't be surprised if Josh

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Speaker 2: He usually plays in it. I didn't look at the

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Speaker 2: he's there in any event. Media member stopped Rogers and

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Speaker 2: asked him his thoughts on now being the subject of

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Speaker 2: the latest edition of Hard Knocks and so for the

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Speaker 2: first and you know this, it's been made no secret

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Speaker 2: they're forcing the Jets to do this. There were four

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Speaker 2: teams they could have picked from. The Jets were clearly

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Speaker 2: between sauce Gardner, Aaron Rodgers obviously being there the Quinn

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Speaker 2: Williams deal now that it's done, so there's a lot

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Speaker 2: a lot of catchy headlines that can develop at a

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Speaker 2: Jets camp. But basically this was Rogers' quote because he

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Speaker 2: was not thrilled that the Jets are the subject of

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Speaker 2: hard knocks. He says, quote, I understand the appeal with us. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of eyes on me, a lot of

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Speaker 2: eyes on our team, a lot of expectations on our squad.

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Speaker 2: So they forced it down our throats and we've got

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Speaker 4: When I saw this today, Pro Football Talk, Mike Florio

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Speaker 4: just thought, this is like where it starts right here.

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Speaker 3: I didn't I hadn't seen the quote yet.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't quite as incendiary as I thought it could

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Speaker 4: have been coming out of the mouth of Rogers. But

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Speaker 4: to say forced it down our throats. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Right, And it's not like this is your third string

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Speaker 2: Chris I looked it up. Just with the division guys. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So Rogers, as we know, has only played since twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think we all realize that the NF

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Speaker 4: I will say, if Bill Belichick can keep the Patriots

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Speaker 4: The intriguing thing though, with Belichick when it comes to

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Speaker 4: No, definitely not. I don't think that's a surprise to me.

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Speaker 4: I feel like this is just a player kind of

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Speaker 4: on social media and said I am retired multiple times,

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Speaker 4: still retired.

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Speaker 3: Still retired.

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Speaker 4: I think this is more just wishful thinking from Antoine

437
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Speaker 4: Winfield junior, who's coming into the prime of his career.

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Speaker 4: And then there was that video a few weeks ago

439
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Speaker 4: of Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trask like missing every target

440
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Speaker 4: at mini camp. So he went from being a safety

441
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Speaker 4: on a team that won a Super Bowl in the

442
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Speaker 4: first year with Brady got to play with Brady. It

443
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Speaker 4: elevated that team to New Heights to seeing Baker Mayfield

444
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Speaker 4: on his what third fourth team and Kyle Trask, who

445
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Speaker 4: just don't instill a lot of confidence into this offense.

446
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Speaker 4: I think it's more just wishful thinking than anything else.

447
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Speaker 2: Thirty five million in dead cap money for the Bucks

448
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Speaker 2: to not have Brady on their team after giving them

449
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Speaker 2: all that money when he signed with the club. And then,

450
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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, Brady's trying to be a minority stakeholder

451
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Speaker 2: in the Raiders. That would obviously complicate things if he

452
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Speaker 2: did decide to come out of retirement. So yeah, I

453
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Speaker 2: would tend to agree with you. I think it is

454
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Speaker 2: wishful thinking. And then finally Rivers, Philip Rivers, he's not

455
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Speaker 2: playing football, but he's still hard at work in terms

456
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Speaker 2: of growing his family. Holy cow, all, I gotta say,

457
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Speaker 2: is now that they've announced that child number ten that

458
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Speaker 2: is not a typo child number ten on the way

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Speaker 2: for Philip Rivers and his wife. God bless his wife, Tiffany. Yes,

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Speaker 2: ten children. I am not even a woman that has

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Speaker 2: the slightest or foggiest idea of the difficulty of pregnancy

462
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Speaker 2: and childbirth. And I feel for the woman. I mean,

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Speaker 2: honest to Pete, Philip ten kids.

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Speaker 4: He could field a football team exactly like I was

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Speaker 4: gonna say, have you ever seen those pictures on a

466
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Speaker 4: wedding day where the groom is under center and he's

467
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Speaker 4: got his groomsmen as an offensive line?

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Speaker 3: They're kind of funny.

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Speaker 4: In like five years or five to seven years, Philip

470
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Speaker 4: Rivers needs to field an entire offense offensive line maybe

471
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Speaker 4: eleven personnel, three wide receivers are running back, all of

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Speaker 4: his kids and his wife can take the picture.

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Speaker 3: That is. Hats off to her.

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Speaker 4: I'm surprised that they're both okay with this, but I

475
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Speaker 4: guess they just want to have like the biggest, most

476
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Speaker 4: famous family in the NFL.

477
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Speaker 3: In the NFL are.

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Speaker 2: Really there's one area that Philip Rivers is not retired

479
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Speaker 2: in and that's baby making. Apparently so all right, congratulations

480
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Speaker 2: on number ten, because that I had two and man

481
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Speaker 2: to man defense was challenging enough. And they say, when

482
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Speaker 2: you go from two to three, that's a big change.

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Speaker 2: I can't well. And then I've heard people say this.

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Speaker 3: After three that it's the same.

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Speaker 2: It's all, it's all, it's all a wash. You could

486
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Speaker 2: go four or five, four, five, six and seven, it's

487
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Speaker 2: all a wash. It just at that point, well, at

488
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Speaker 2: that point, you're having the oldest ones help you take

489
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Speaker 2: care of the youngest ones, and it's you know, all

490
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Speaker 2: hands on deck quite literally. So okay, I can't speak

491
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Speaker 2: on that from experience, but that's what people have told

492
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Speaker 2: me that have large families.

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Speaker 3: Ten feels excessive.

494
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Speaker 2: Very five feels excessive. Yeah, he's doubled it. I mean,

495
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Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm glad they're they're all about him

496
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Speaker 2: expanding their family. But I'd love to see what the

497
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Speaker 2: River's compound looks like to house all these.

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Speaker 4: People huge, And what about like moving your kids around?

499
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Speaker 4: Like what kind of vehicles do they have?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, they've got to have the fifteen passenger

501
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Speaker 2: suburban or just still like the fifteen passenger van or

502
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Speaker 2: one of those sprinter vans that you see, the hotels

503
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Speaker 2: got to be used for valet and shuttle service to

504
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Speaker 2: the airport. They need one of those. I mean, it's

505
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Speaker 2: not like he can't afford it. He's you know, probably

506
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Speaker 2: made well over two hundred and fifty million dollars in

507
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Speaker 2: his football career, so you know, fortunately for him, he's

508
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Speaker 2: in a position where he can have a ten ten kids.

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Speaker 2: So congratulations, hope everything goes well with number ten. And

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Speaker 2: God bless your wife, Philip, because she deserves it. Holy

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Speaker 2: mackerel that is around the NFL presented by Kalida Health,

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Speaker 2: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. We mentioned

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Speaker 2: that it is obl Fan Friday Mailbag, So any questions

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Speaker 2: that you have fired them off to us either on

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Speaker 2: We had a caller holding on there earlier and they

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Speaker 2: jumped off. They wanted to know what's the situation with

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Speaker 2: Diggs now, And all I can tell you is it's

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Speaker 2: there isn't a situation. He's fully expected to come to

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Speaker 2: training camp with no issues. As we know he finished

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Speaker 2: up mini camp with his teammates on the last day

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Speaker 2: of practice because they canceled the day that followed that,

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Speaker 2: which is typical with three day mini camps. They canceled

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Speaker 2: the last day and let the players get away early.

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Speaker 2: So that's been that and everything is kind of water

528
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Speaker 2: under the bridge at this point. Dion Dawkins made an

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Speaker 2: appearance on the Colin Coward Show when he was out

530
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Speaker 2: west for the SP's and he was asked about it

531
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Speaker 2: and he said it is a non issue.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think by the second week of August.

533
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Speaker 4: I don't want to say that we'll all forget about

534
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: this weird incident, but it will be on the back burner.

535
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 4: Digs when he's on the field. There's never once been

536
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Speaker 4: any incident or any accusation that he doesn't work hard

537
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Speaker 4: and he's not extremely focused on becoming the best receiver.

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Speaker 5: He can be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we are going to step aside here when we

540
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Speaker 2: come back from break through. It's your phone calls, your

541
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Speaker 2: questions on the Friday fan mail bag, Bill's NFL, anything

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Speaker 2: under the sun. We're here to help, So we'll take

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Speaker 2: your phone calls and your questions when we return here.

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio Back on one Bills Live Here a Friday.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Christopher Passer with you gonna go right to

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Speaker 2: the phones here on this Friday fan mail bag for

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Speaker 2: your questions leading us off today, Bob and Hamburg? What

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Speaker 2: do you got for his? Bob?

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Speaker 5: And gentlemen, how you doing, Toody? Hey, I'm just you know,

551
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 5: sitting here thinking, you know, with the expectation level of

552
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Speaker 5: the Bills as it was going in the last year's

553
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Speaker 5: training camp where they were crowned pretty much, you know,

554
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Speaker 5: they're the team to beat in the NFL to this

555
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Speaker 5: year where I'm reading online and how much shade is

556
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Speaker 5: being thrown the Bills wait for everything for their defense

557
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 5: the dig situation, you would think it was the bickering

558
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Speaker 5: Bills again. Do you think that will be a motivating

559
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Speaker 5: factor for the Bills looking into it this year? And

560
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 5: we all know they read so it's not like they're

561
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Speaker 5: saying they're gonna ignore everything and that's no big deal.

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Speaker 5: But do you think that's gonna They're gonna look at

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Speaker 5: it and say, hey, you know what, we got to

564
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Speaker 5: pull up our bootstraps and we got some work to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think this is a team that's

566
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Speaker 2: pretty inherently motivated to begin with. But anything to spice

567
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Speaker 2: up the recipe, I'm all for it. And you can

568
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Speaker 2: bet that this is being put in front of players

569
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Speaker 2: somewhere somehow in this facility when they come back. You know,

570
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Speaker 2: it's always funny to kind of think of the mental

571
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Speaker 2: gymnastics that coaches go through to try to tweak players

572
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Speaker 2: and get a little extra out of them. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you want to shoot that bullet now,

574
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Speaker 2: you know, before you know, you're a month and a

575
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Speaker 2: half away from real football. But I wouldn't remind reminding

576
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Speaker 2: everybody on September tenth in the evening meeting before the

577
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Speaker 2: game the next day for Week one, whether you're showing

578
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Speaker 2: everybody crowning the Jets like they were doing with the

579
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Speaker 2: Bills last year. Yeah, you could. I think you could

580
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Speaker 2: use it as a coach to motivate your team. And

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if coach McDermott does yeah to

582
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Speaker 2: me this.

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 4: My thought on this is that recency bias is a

585
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Speaker 4: hell of a drug. And coming off the thirteen second game,

586
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Speaker 4: how good of a game that was. It kind of

587
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Speaker 4: felt like the Super Bowl, like the winner of that

588
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Speaker 4: or like of that game would win the Super Bowl.

589
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Speaker 4: Obviously didn't happen, but that game I think sparked all

590
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Speaker 4: of the oh my god, the Bills are so good,

591
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Speaker 4: like they were this close, and that ridiculous game on

592
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Speaker 4: the road, and that last year losing how they lost

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Speaker 4: in the division round.

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Speaker 3: You would have thought the Bills snuck in as the

595
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Speaker 3: wild card and went eight to eight or whatever it was.

596
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Speaker 4: I think the twenty twenty two Bills were actually better

597
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Speaker 4: than the twenty twenty one.

598
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Speaker 3: Bills if you look at the entirety of the season.

599
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Speaker 4: They had a better record. I think they were more consistent.

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Speaker 4: There was that rough patch in twenty twenty one where

601
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Speaker 4: they lost to the Jaguars, what nine to six? They

602
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Speaker 4: went eleven and six during the regular season. I think

603
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: this year the team is deeper. I think they're more

604
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Speaker 4: equipped to meet the expectations of say last year that

605
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Speaker 4: were probably inflated just because of that final game, and

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Speaker 4: they're probably deflated because of how that Divisional round game

607
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Speaker 4: went against the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they were inflated because of that and

609
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Speaker 2: because of the von Miller acquisitionship. So that's when people

610
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Speaker 2: went cuckoo for Coco puffs after they got von Miller, like, ah,

611
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Speaker 2: it's the Bills, it's nobody else, It's the Bills. Twenty

612
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Speaker 2: twenty two year of the Bills, and then you know

613
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Speaker 2: there was no controlling it after that. But yes, I

614
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Speaker 2: think the roster is deeper this year than even it

615
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Speaker 2: was last year, and I think it's in a position

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Speaker 2: where it can withstand some of the adversity a bit

617
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Speaker 2: better than it was able to last season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you just took the words out of my mouth.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say that von Miller signing definitely

620
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Speaker 4: was what spawned a lot of the Bills at Super

621
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Speaker 4: Bowl favorite talk, along with that division around game against

622
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs. But it feels like what you just said,

623
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Speaker 4: having more depth and having Leonard Floyd and Poona Ford

624
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Speaker 4: and Taylor Rapp and Damien Harris. It's like Brandon Bean

625
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Speaker 4: learned from last year that hey, you can sign to

626
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Speaker 4: von Miller, but he can also get hurt and then

627
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Speaker 4: suddenly you don't have von Miller. That he was the

628
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Speaker 4: one splash signing usually in the NFL, while that guy

629
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Speaker 4: can move the needle a lot. It's the quantity of

630
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Speaker 4: acquisitions that you make, drafting Dalton Kinka to add to

631
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Speaker 4: your offense that ultimately matters more over the course of

632
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Speaker 4: a very long NFL season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go back to the phones. We go to

634
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Speaker 2: Brian in Alabama. Next. What you got firs? Brian?

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Speaker 6: Hey, good afternoon, fellows. How you guys going doing well?

636
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Speaker 6: Thank you? So one thing that I think is kind

637
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Speaker 6: of for certain with this team is we'll always have

638
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Speaker 6: continuity on the defensive side of the ball because of

639
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Speaker 6: our head coach being defensive minded. With that being in mind,

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Speaker 6: I'm being highly optimistic that our offense will do good

641
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Speaker 6: this year. So who do you guys feel like is

642
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Speaker 6: kind of being groomed behind the scene to take over

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Speaker 6: the offensive coordinator position if Kendorse does in fact get

644
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Speaker 6: opportunities at following this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be Joe Brady, the quarterbacks coach. He

646
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Speaker 2: came in last year. For those that don't remember, he

647
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Speaker 2: was the OC down at LSU when they won a

648
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Speaker 2: national title with Joe Burrow as their quarterback, and then

649
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Speaker 2: he went on to the NFL became the OC in Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Things were a little rocky there they were a little

651
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Speaker 2: uneven and he lost his job there, and the Bills

652
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: quickly scooped him up, knowing they were gonna They had

653
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: probably already made the decision that they were going to

654
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: promote Ken Dorsey to the offensive coordinator position and then

655
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: scooped Joe Brady up to be the quarterbacks coach. And

656
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Speaker 2: I would assume that he is the guy that they

657
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: would groom to be the next offensive coordinator to again

658
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: maintain that continuity. And I know there are a lot

659
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Speaker 2: of Bills fans out there that are bothered by the

660
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: fact that their head coach is not an offensive play

661
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: caller because it disrupts the continuity of the offense in

662
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: terms of who's calling the plays. I get it, but

663
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Speaker 2: if you have a good coach, that shouldn't completely upset

664
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Speaker 2: the apple cart, and I think to a large degree

665
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: it did not. Last year, Buffalo's offensive numbers were outstanding.

666
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: They were second only to the Chiefs who won the

667
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: whole thing last year in a number of different categories.

668
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Speaker 2: And that was with a guy doing it for the

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Speaker 2: first time at the NFL level in Ken Dorsey last year.

670
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Speaker 2: So let that percolate in your head a little bit.

671
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: Then realize that the guy that could be his successor

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Speaker 2: if Dorsey starts getting head coaching offers, if they have

673
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: a successful season this year, that Joe Brady's done it

674
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Speaker 2: at the college level and he's done it at the

675
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Speaker 2: NFL level, So that counts for something walking in the

676
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: door if in fact he is the heir apparent and

677
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Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey moves on for an opportunity he can't pass

678
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Speaker 2: up this time next year.

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Speaker 4: And what I really like about the grooming of Joe Brady,

680
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Speaker 4: he only turns thirty four in September. You mentioned playing

681
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 4: or coaching Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson

682
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: that ridiculous offense. He definitely is a progressive mind. He

683
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: knows how to install ourpos He's up with the modern

684
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 4: evolution of today's NFL. So I think if there was

685
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Speaker 4: ever an instance, whether it be in the year or

686
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Speaker 4: two years or three years, where Ken Dorsey's out the door,

687
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: you're not relying on a veteran that kind of came

688
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 4: up in the eighties or nineties or early two thousands.

689
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Speaker 4: You're talking about someone that is right at the precipice

690
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Speaker 4: of what teams are doing offensively with yards after the

691
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 4: catch with screens with high percentage throws things like that.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Mark in West Seneca.

693
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Speaker 2: What do you got for us? Mark?

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Speaker 7: Hi, guys, A couple of questions on the D side

695
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 7: of the ball today. First of all, I'm seeming to

696
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 7: think that a J. Klein might have the advantage at

697
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 7: the middle linebacker competition, assuming he's got anything left in

698
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 7: the tank. I'm thinking that his veteran leadership and being

699
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 7: in this defense for a number of years under McDermott

700
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 7: gives him that heads up. And then on D tackles

701
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Speaker 7: if they decide to go with only four and not five,

702
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Speaker 7: I'm thinking unfortunately, Tim Settles might be the odd man out.

703
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Speaker 2: I'm wondering what you get. Yeah, I understand what you're

704
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: saying there. Mark, First, on the dtackle point, because it's

705
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: a logjam. I mean, let's not make any mistake about it.

706
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: I mean, Daikwon Jones to me is a lock. At

707
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: Oliver just signed the extension is a lock. I would

708
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: say Pooniford is a lock because of his talent level.

709
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 2: I mean he upgrades that unit clearly. Jordan Phillips, provided

710
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: he's healthy, is a big body that you kind of need,

711
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 2: and I think him being able to play a full

712
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: time three technique as the rotational guy behind and Oliver,

713
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna get a lot more out of him than

714
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: you did last year when he was switching back and

715
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: forth between the three and the one due in part

716
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: to some injuries, because Oliver miss time, Settle miss time

717
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: with the calf injury early in the season, and then

718
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: obviously Phillips got injured himself with a hamstring followed by

719
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: a torn rotator cuff. But then at the same time, Chris,

720
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 2: all those injuries at defensive tackle might give the coaching

721
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: staff pause and say, well, maybe we should carry five

722
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: good ones.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it also it's along the entire defensive line.

724
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Speaker 4: What happens at the edge rusher spot? Does aja Epanessa

725
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 4: and Boogie Bashm do? They both have big summers? And

726
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 4: then suddenly you're like, hey, maybe we can only keep

727
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 4: four d tackles because we want to keep an extra

728
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Speaker 4: defensive end.

729
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Speaker 3: Which is what they did last year. Five ends four dts.

730
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 4: So or is it, Hey, maybe aja Epines has done

731
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 4: enough to maybe be on the trade block and you

732
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 4: can get a pick for him, then you can carry

733
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Speaker 4: five dts. We just know that Sean McDermott in this

734
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 4: defense and now, especially because he's calling the plays, they're

735
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 4: going to rotate a lot eight nine deep between right

736
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: thirty to seventy percent of the snaps. And it does

737
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 4: seem like one of the lower cost players liked him

738
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 4: Settle have have the hardest time to make this team

739
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 4: or have their work cut out for them. They have

740
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 4: to have a big training camp and probably some big

741
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 4: performances in the preseason.

742
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, in all fairness, he got off to

743
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: a slow start because he had a calf injury and

744
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: camp then or in the preseason, and then it resurfaced

745
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: early in the regular season. I think it kind of

746
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: set him behind the eight ball a little bit and

747
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: he never gained traction after that to make the kind

748
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: of impact that I think we were expecting, especially with

749
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: the opportunity at a potentially expanded role from the one

750
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: he had previously in Washington. And if he comes in

751
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: again and doesn't raise the meter on his performance, yeah,

752
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: he could very well be the odd man out. As

753
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: for AJ Klein, this is kind of how I view

754
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: the Klein situation. He's here for a reason. We know

755
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: that McDermott likes veteran players in every position room on

756
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: the roster. Klein is clearly that for the linebacker position.

757
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: I don't expect to see him a whole lot rotating

758
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 2: in at the mike linebacker spot for this competition because

759
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: they already know what he can and cannot do. He

760
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: played for four seasons for McDermott and Carolina as a

761
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: younger player. He's been here in and out a couple

762
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 2: of times. They know what his skill set is. They

763
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: know he knows the defense. They don't need to see

764
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: him getting reps. The problem that works against him, as

765
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Speaker 2: I see it, is the whole matchup linebacker job description

766
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: that they want from that position. I think we all

767
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: remember when he had to step in for Tremaine Edmunds

768
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. The first game was a

769
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: little bit of a struggle because they were trying to

770
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Speaker 2: ask him to do some of the same things in

771
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Speaker 2: coverage that they were asking Edmunds, and that is not

772
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Speaker 2: his strength. So in terms of being a matchup guy

773
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: in coverage, that's not who he is. So does that

774
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: give him a limitation that prevents the coaching staff from

775
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: saying he's part of the competition. He's part of the

776
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: equation to be the starter. I think he's veteran insurance

777
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: in case the whole thing collapses and nobody looks like

778
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: they're ready to start amongst the younger set of players.

779
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say this.

780
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Speaker 4: I don't like he's in the most unique situation maybe

781
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 4: on the entire defense, where I'm not going to even

782
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 4: write him in pencil for the middle linebacker spot for

783
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 4: all those reasons that you just pointed out.

784
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: But I think he's a lot to make the roster, yes.

785
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: Because all the things that you agree with that he

786
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 4: he knows the scheme, he's been here, he's a veteran.

787
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 4: They can plug him in in an absolute emergency situation

788
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 4: and his head is not going to be spinning. But

789
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 4: I don't think there's a very high likelihood at all,

790
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 4: or a high percentage that he's a starting middle linebacker

791
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: when Aaron Rodgers is out there on Monday Night football.

792
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: And when you think about it, too, they still have

793
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: a lot to learn about Terrell, Bernard Baylen spector Dorian Williams.

794
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: I mean, they probably have a good handle on Tyrrell

795
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: Dodson because this is his year, fourth year, But those

796
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: other three guys, they got to get them reps with

797
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: starters around them to see how they handle that stuff,

798
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: not only their own execution, but the organization of the defense,

799
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: and with three or four guys potentially in the mix.

800
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: Reps for a j. Klein kind of take away from

801
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: reps for the younger guys.

802
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 4: And in twenty twenty, when he did start to settle

803
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 4: into his role that was a little bit closer to

804
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, kind of as an overhang linebacker.

805
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 4: I think it's good to have that type of linebacker

806
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 4: on your roster in specific matchups against specific teams, if

807
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 4: you're facing a run heavy team or a team that

808
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 4: doesn't have a lot of firepower offensively in terms of

809
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: their aerial.

810
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: Attack, where he can just blitz.

811
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 4: He can just worry about clicking and closing downhill. That's

812
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 4: where he's a bigger linebacker. He's strong, he can beat blocks.

813
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 4: That's when he had that big game against the Seattle Yeah. Yes,

814
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 4: So to have that player, it's kind of like, to me,

815
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: like the defensive version of having a fullback where you

816
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 4: don't use him a lot, but it's still nice to

817
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 4: have for versatility purposes or matchup purposes.

818
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: He's the classic insurance policy for sure. We have to

819
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: take a break here, but more of your phone calls

820
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: when we come back, Eddie and Scottsdale is going to

821
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: lead us off as we're taking more of your phone

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Speaker 2: calls here on a Friday fan mail. It's One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: welcome back here on a Friday and One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Christie Passer with You's gonna jump right back

826
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Speaker 2: to the phones. We got people patiently waiting. Do you

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Speaker 2: have an open line for you though? At eight oh

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Speaker 2: three oh five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five pint fifty. It is the fan Friday mail Bag.

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Speaker 2: Any question you have on the Bills the league at large?

831
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: Fire him off, Chris and I'll do our best to

832
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: answer him. We go to Eddie in Scottsdale next. What

833
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 2: do you got for us? Eddie?

834
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Speaker 8: Hey, how you doing guys? I'm an old season ticket

835
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Speaker 8: holder from the beginning nineteen sixty to nineteen ninety seven,

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Speaker 8: and I moved to Scottsdale. I've always wondered this, the

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Speaker 8: way defensive ends are nowadays speedy and agile. Has anybody

838
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 8: ever thought of putting a very agile, speedy defensive end

839
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 8: at middle linebacker, I'll hang up and live.

840
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, not so much. I mean, I think you see

841
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: those tweener guys in the draft, and sometimes they're better

842
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: suited for a three to four where they are out

843
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: in space a little bit more and not grinding up

844
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: at the line as much. But middle linebacker is a

845
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 2: completely different animal, different angles, different keys to read all

846
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: of that stuff. That would be a whale of a transition.

847
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 4: I would think, Yeah, this is one that I'm gonna say,

848
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna applaud the draft community for really pushing the

849
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 4: different labels for players to go edge rusher and linebacker.

850
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: For the longest time, it was like Von Miller's a linebacker,

851
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 4: how are the Broncos picking him? Like, he's not a

852
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: linebacker in the general sense, he's an edge rusher. So

853
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: it's been over the last I think almost five to

854
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: seven years now where even in the draft cycle, guys

855
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 4: get labeled as either linebackers.

856
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 3: Or edge rush edge.

857
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 4: So it's a totally, like you just said, Chris, totally

858
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 4: different job.

859
00:44:58,840 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: Responsibility.

860
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 4: Coverage is gigantic to me, it's the most vital element

861
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 4: to playing.

862
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 3: That off ball linebacker role. Edge rusher.

863
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: You're getting downhill, you're bending the corner. You got to

864
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 4: play with a lot of point of attack power. Just

865
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 4: it probably hasn't happened because a guy that's just totally

866
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 4: different job duties.

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Speaker 2: Now, I will say, if the league continues to move

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Speaker 2: towards the need for matchup linebackers, and they and the

869
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Speaker 2: middle linebacker gets lighter and lighter and lighter, and you

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Speaker 2: get down to consistent guys two thirty two twenty five,

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Speaker 2: and you've got and I'm thinking of a guy like

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Speaker 2: a Nolan Smith. You know, the guy's athletic skill set

873
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 2: is off the charts. You could probably put him anywhere

874
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Speaker 2: with the exception of defensive tackle to hold up against run.

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Speaker 2: You can put him anywhere in the front seven there

876
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Speaker 2: and his athletic skill set would probably allow him to

877
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Speaker 2: get by. Would he excel at any at all those roles?

878
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Speaker 2: Probably not, But you get a freak of an athlete

879
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: like that, maybe that's somebody you can move around. We

880
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: shouldn't forget the fact that Tremaine Edmonds, there was a

881
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Speaker 2: strong side, stand up linebacker at Virginia Tech, and they

882
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Speaker 2: did make him a middle linebacker. That's about the closest,

883
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Speaker 2: closest example, Eddie, I can get to what you'res suggesting.

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Speaker 3: The only other one.

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00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: I think we are moving towards more positionless football, but

886
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Speaker 2: those are two very different positions.

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Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, the only way that I

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00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 4: could see this happening or becoming commonplace in the NFL

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00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 4: is if like more teams like the San Francisco forty

890
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Speaker 4: nine ers and the Baltimore Ravens want to take advantage

891
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Speaker 4: of the lack of size and weight at the linebacker

892
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Speaker 4: spot and start, you know, pulling guards and having two

893
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Speaker 4: to three extra offensive linemen and basing their offense around

894
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 4: running the football, power running. I don't think that's gonna

895
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Speaker 4: happen though, because of all the analytics movement and it

896
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 4: has really made it very clear that passing the football

897
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 4: is the most efficient way to move the football and

898
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: to score points in the NFL. But if we see

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Speaker 4: more teams start to say, hey, look that linebacker's two fifteen,

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Speaker 4: that one's two twenty, let's start to run, then you

901
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 4: could maybe the team say, hey, we need to beef

902
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 4: up back to where we were in the eighties and

903
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Speaker 4: nineties at the lineback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely cycles, that's for sure. I mean, what do

905
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: we ten twelve years removed from Jeremiah Trotter. I mean

906
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: that guy was two hundred and sixty pound middle linebacker.

907
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: Frani Spikes was a big one.

908
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Brandon Spikes two fifty five. Like, those guys don't

909
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Speaker 2: exist now. Big guys are two thirty one.

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Speaker 4: Bill that I think would have been so good in

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00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 4: today's era. That was not really that great. Keith Ellison,

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Speaker 4: you remember him? Oh yeahminy tiney, like six foot twenty

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Speaker 4: five and he was pretty athletic. He just got bowled

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Speaker 4: over by those pulling guards, those tight ends at the

915
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Speaker 4: second level. He was actually pretty good in coverage, made

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Speaker 4: a few plays here and there, but it was always

917
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Speaker 4: all he's just not big enough. Now, it's funny a

918
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Speaker 4: decade later looking back and saying, Keith Ellison is like

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Speaker 4: the same size as Matt mllona.

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Speaker 2: And this is crazy. The thing too, we all remember

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Speaker 2: Brian Scott, who was a safety on this roster. Towards

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00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: the end of his career, they had him playing like

923
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Speaker 2: a hybrid linebacker. But that guy at that size would

924
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Speaker 2: be a full time linebacker sure, without even a second thought.

925
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Speaker 2: And it just goes to show you how much the

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Speaker 2: game has changed in favor of the past. Here we

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Speaker 2: have to step aside, but our number two is all

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Speaker 2: phone calls, all the time. So if you have a

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Speaker 2: question here on this Friday fan mail Bag, fire it

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Speaker 2: the toll free number to get on board if you're

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Speaker 2: outside the seven to one to six calling area. Chris

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Speaker 2: and I are answering more of your questions on the

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Speaker 2: phone lines and on the tweetsheet here on One Bill's

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Speaker 9: That's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Our number two on a Friday, Chris Brown Chris Capasso

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Speaker 2: with you as we have the Friday fan mail Bag

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Speaker 2: open for your questions. Fire them off to us at

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Speaker 2: eight O three oh five fifty one eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifty the numbers to get on board,

944
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Speaker 2: and you know we're all calls the rest of the show,

945
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Speaker 2: So if you have a question, send it to us.

946
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: You can also hit us up on Twitter at One

947
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. We'll get to some of those here shortly

948
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Speaker 2: because we do have a list of questions that have

949
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Speaker 2: already been submitted. But phone lines are open if you

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Speaker 2: want to go the express route to get your question

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Speaker 2: answered at eight oh three, five fifty. But let's uh,

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Speaker 2: let's dive into the bag here of tweets, and TJ says, Hey, guys,

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00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: I know you probably can't say, but has there been

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Speaker 2: any chatter about red helmet around One Bill's Drive this offseason?

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you it's been crickets here like nobody's

956
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 2: there isn't even like any kind of rumors going around.

957
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: I have heard zero about red helmets. And I know

958
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Speaker 2: this kind of blew up a little bit on social

959
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: this week. Greg Russo, Dawson Knox what they have like

960
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: red helmets that they signed for something, or what.

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Speaker 4: It was like on their Instagram stories individually it was

962
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 4: something with labette blue like an ad, but it was

963
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Speaker 4: definitely the nineties red helmet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which you'll see from time to time. I know

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00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: most of the current players, if they're doing signings, they'll

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Speaker 2: sign the white helmets. First of all, the signature looks

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Speaker 2: better on a white helmet. In my personal opinion, I

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Speaker 2: understand the affinity for the red helmets. It's from an

969
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Speaker 2: era of great success for this football team, so I

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Speaker 2: understand why people like it. I was just talking to

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Speaker 2: my son the other day and he was saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: if the Bills did a throwback jersey, I'd love to

973
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Speaker 2: see the nineties jerseys. Yeah, because he's too young, he

974
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Speaker 2: didn't experience that, and I think he said he would

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Speaker 2: like to see those, you know, in person, like I

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Speaker 2: want to see what those nineties jerseys looks like, look like,

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Speaker 2: you know, basically having only seen them in old, old

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Speaker 2: YouTube clips.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that would jibe with what the NFL seemingly

980
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 4: is doing with the Creamsicles coming back with the Timpa

981
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Speaker 4: Bay Buccaneers. I believe the Eagles are they coming back

982
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 4: with the Kelly Green Oh?

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Speaker 2: Are they doing that?

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Speaker 3: I think so?

985
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Speaker 4: And the Broncos Tea's that in a couple of weeks

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Speaker 4: that they're gonna come back with their d with the

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00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 4: Bronco in it helmet callaway era and like the lighter blue,

988
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 4: the lighter blue, yeah, not like the Navy, like the

989
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 4: royal blue color. So it seems like and it's for us.

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00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 4: It's kind of dating us that it's like, oh, the

991
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 4: throwbacks are now the nineties, but we vividly remember watching

992
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 4: that's kind of kids are wearing clothes from the nineties.

993
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 4: And I think that would make the most sense. I think,

994
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 4: and I've tweeted this a bunch, so if you follow

995
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 4: me on Twitter, you've seen this. Takee for me on

996
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 4: a yearly basis, the league should have Thursday Night Football

997
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 4: should be Throwback Thursday, and every Thursday Night football game

998
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 4: should be a throwback jersey, whether it made it the

999
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 4: Color Rush game, the Color Rush Game, and the Bills

1000
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 4: had that Colorblind.

1001
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Speaker 2: Game where oh, yeah, the Reds and the Greens, the.

1002
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Speaker 4: Reds and the Greens. Yeah, So they try to like

1003
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 4: generate revenue that way. How about just tap into the

1004
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 4: nostalgia or for someone that's like your sun's age to

1005
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Speaker 4: see the nineties uniforms again every single Thursday. Obviously that's

1006
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 4: a you know, would be a whole league wide initiative,

1007
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 4: but I obviously don't know anything on that front either.

1008
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 4: It would make sense because it seems like a few

1009
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 4: teams across the board are coming out and saying that

1010
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 4: we're either gonna wear our helmets or our full scale

1011
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 4: jerseys from the nineties.

1012
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: And it is a process. You have to put in

1013
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: a request to the league for them to authorize it

1014
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 2: and all of that stuff. I mean, I haven't heard anything.

1015
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: Why would anybody let us know if they're pushing to

1016
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Speaker 2: enact a situation where for a couple of games games

1017
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: they might change their look. I don't know, but it

1018
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 2: has been crickets here, so we have heard absolutely nothing

1019
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: on that front. Next question comes from Ed who asks

1020
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,479
Speaker 2: what pleasant surprises on the Bills offense might we see

1021
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: this season? So I think this might be player or

1022
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: scheme development. I think all of that anything on the

1023
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 2: offense kind of falls under the umbrella that Ed has

1024
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: opened up here. So what pleasant surprises on the Bills

1025
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: offense might we see? For you?

1026
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Khalil Shakir.

1027
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 4: Okay, that we have these newcomers in Buffalo, Deanty, Hardy Trench, Shirfield.

1028
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 4: They're established veterans, They've played in different schemes though in

1029
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Speaker 4: different cities. And Khalil Shakir, yes, he only had fifteen

1030
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Speaker 4: catches last season.

1031
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: But he does have at least that leg up.

1032
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Speaker 4: On Deanty Hardy and Trench Shairfield, and that he has

1033
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 4: that rapport with Josh Allen. He made a couple of

1034
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 4: big catches in the playoff game. Early in that rain

1035
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 4: soaked win over the Ravens. He made a couple of

1036
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 4: big cats in the second half of that game. There

1037
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 4: was a really nice catch down the scene against the

1038
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 4: Steelers that I remember vividly that was like kind of

1039
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 4: a back shoulder where it almost was like Josh Allen

1040
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Speaker 4: put it in the only spot where Shakiir could catch it,

1041
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 4: and he did. And this has been my biggest point

1042
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 4: in my point of emphasis this offseason for the Bills.

1043
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 3: He's good after the catch.

1044
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Speaker 4: They have Stefan Diggs, He's always going to be near

1045
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 4: the top of the league in every category. He ro oute,

1046
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Speaker 4: running hands, all that speed yards after the catch gave

1047
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Speaker 4: Davis is not that guy. Deanty Hardy has shown that

1048
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Speaker 4: he can be that guy, but he hasn't been able

1049
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 4: to stay healthy. I don't know if that's necessarily Trent

1050
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 4: Sherfield's game from watching him at Boise State and then

1051
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 4: a little bit last season, especially in that Ravens game.

1052
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Speaker 4: Shakir has that lower center of gravity kind of built

1053
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 4: like a running back. I think they want to get

1054
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 4: better in that regard, So him having the one year

1055
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Speaker 4: of experience already with Josh Allen, his tendencies where he

1056
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 4: likes to throw the football, I think Khalil Shakiir is

1057
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Speaker 4: going to be a pleasant surprise in this offense.

1058
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say a and surprise will be the

1059
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Speaker 2: increased use of twelve personnel. I'm not gonna pretend to

1060
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Speaker 2: know what kind of jump we're going to see, because obviously.

1061
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Speaker 3: In terms of the percentage used, yes, okay, you.

1062
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Speaker 2: Know we're I'm not gonna pretend to know how much

1063
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: that percentage is gonna jump. Obviously it's gonna be predicated

1064
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: not only on their opponent every week, but also on

1065
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Speaker 2: how successful they are at executing it. But knowing Kincaid

1066
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Speaker 2: and Knox are both accomplished receivers at the position, I

1067
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Speaker 2: just think that they almost be foolish not to try

1068
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: to tap into that as a personnel grouping that they

1069
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 2: can use to their advantage, particularly in the red zone,

1070
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Speaker 2: because even though you may have Kincaid and Knocks on

1071
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: the field, you can still put Davis and Diggs out

1072
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Speaker 2: there with a single back and now you've got six

1073
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Speaker 2: foot six two six three and a half and six '

1074
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Speaker 2: five as targets in the end zone. You know, maybe

1075
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Speaker 2: with Cook in the backfield, or if you want to

1076
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Speaker 2: bring the hammer in Damian Harris or Latavius Murray or

1077
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Speaker 2: whoever you have in mind, big back whatever. I think

1078
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Speaker 2: we're gonna see twelve personnel. And this is just a

1079
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: hunch of mine, the most down in the red zone,

1080
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: because to me, it just makes too much sense in

1081
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: terms of the options it affords you. That's not to

1082
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: say they won't see it between the twenties, but I

1083
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: think that's gonna be like a go to personnel group.

1084
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 4: For some numbers behind that. The Bills were second to

1085
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 4: last in the NFL in twelve personnel last season.

1086
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: Only three point six percent or something.

1087
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 3: This site says eight percent of the time.

1088
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe that was on passes or on runs, but

1089
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 4: still only the Raiders were a lower percentage seven percent

1090
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 4: of the time. And there's teams like the Chiefs thirty

1091
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 4: two percent.

1092
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 3: Of the time.

1093
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 2: Well they yeah, and they went three tight end a

1094
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: good deal to last year they. I mean, for thirteen

1095
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: personnel isn't a popular formation by any means this day

1096
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: and age in the NFL, but I would see them

1097
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: even use that a handful of times in a given week.

1098
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 4: The Chiefs use that ten percent of the time. So

1099
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 4: they use three tight ends more than the Bills used

1100
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 4: two tight ends. And of course they have Travis Kelcey,

1101
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 4: but they don't have like three.

1102
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 3: It's not like it had a nice season. He did them.

1103
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 4: He did, but coming into the year, no one was

1104
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 4: gain planning for him. He wasn't a big signing. He

1105
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 4: was a you know, mid round pickott a duke. I

1106
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 4: think having that formation where you're using it more just

1107
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 4: from looking at it, it looks like a run formation, and no,

1108
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 4: Dalton kin kay is not going to come in and

1109
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 4: be George Kittle as a blocker right away.

1110
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 3: But you have to.

1111
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 4: Respect the size, like you're mentioning beyond just in the

1112
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 4: red zone between the twenties, that you don't really want

1113
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 4: your smaller safety or smaller slot corner in the box.

1114
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 4: When you have six four two forty five Dowson Knox

1115
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 4: and the same size with Dalton Kinkaid, then it makes

1116
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 4: you're passing that much more efficient because you get those

1117
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 4: better matchups from a traditional run formation. There's been a

1118
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 4: lot of analytics that have talked about that is the

1119
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 4: one formation that is clearly the most most efficient way

1120
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 4: or optimal way to move the football if you have

1121
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 4: two good tight ends or just literally using two tight ends,

1122
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 4: if you've got to get the coaching staff to be

1123
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 4: behind those players. And I would assume with Knox in

1124
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 4: a first round pick, we're going to see a large uptic.

1125
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: Like you said, back to the Twitter page, and next

1126
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: question comes from Steve, what is parking and traffic going

1127
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: to look like this season?

1128
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 3: It's a good question. Yeah, and this is my dad

1129
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 3: wants to know this.

1130
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: The question that affects you know, everybody that's coming out

1131
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: to a game. The roads will not be impacted by

1132
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: the construction going on across the street here at Abbot Road.

1133
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: All we've been told to this point is the Campra

1134
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: lot will be impacted. They'll have to find a new

1135
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: destination for those of you who park in the Campra lot.

1136
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: We have been given no other information on the other

1137
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: parking lots. Obviously, they're digging a giant hole in the ground,

1138
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 2: so that's going to impact that too, but we have

1139
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: not been given any guidance as to what that means

1140
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: as far as where the parking lost over there is

1141
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: going to be situated going forward. So we'll have to

1142
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: wait and see on that, and I would imagine as

1143
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: we get closer here in the coming weeks to the

1144
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: first preseason game on August twelfth, that there will be

1145
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: more clear cut answers on that in terms of, you know,

1146
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: parking availability, what you got to do to you know,

1147
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: do the workaround because we're going to be doing a

1148
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: work around here for about three years, so we all

1149
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: got to get it, kind of get used to it,

1150
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: knowing that there are going to be probably some extra

1151
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: circumstances we're all going to have to deal with in

1152
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 2: terms of where we're going to be parking our cars

1153
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 2: here on game days.

1154
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 4: Now, just driving up today, is there any expansion of

1155
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 4: the parking lots in ECC, because it looks like I

1156
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 4: don't know if that's just the perimeter of the construction

1157
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 4: of the new stadium, but it looks like it's pretty

1158
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 4: far away from where the new stadium is going to be.

1159
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 4: And there were like fence that said like ECC construction ongoing.

1160
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 4: I know that could help because that's a lot of

1161
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 4: land over there.

1162
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: There is a lot of land over there. The only

1163
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: drawback is you would have to walk around the construction site.

1164
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,479
Speaker 2: You can't like cut through that lot normally just because

1165
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: you can't park there, So that is a drawback. But

1166
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,959
Speaker 2: if there aren't any other options, I think they would

1167
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: have to entertain it as you know, probably a solution,

1168
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 2: but we'll have to wait and see what the official

1169
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: word is on that. All we know is the camper

1170
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: loot is going to have to be relocated. Essentially, that

1171
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 2: was the only guidance we've been given on any of

1172
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,479
Speaker 2: the game day parking to this point. Steve's I wish

1173
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: I had more for you, but that's all we've got

1174
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: right now. Andrew asks, one thing's for sure, being has

1175
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: done as homework and brought an exceptional talent in the

1176
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: off season. Cutting down to the fifty three man roster

1177
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: is going to be a very hard task just because

1178
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: of how good that roster is. Now, who do you

1179
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 2: think is an odd player out?

1180
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna see I mean, obviously like the

1181
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 4: Bills are gonna have to cut twenty or yeah, I

1182
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 4: guess more than that players, So that will ultimately happen.

1183
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 4: But I think there's gonna be two trades. I could

1184
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 4: see one of Aja Epanessa or Boogie Basham whoever, just

1185
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 4: whether they have a good training camp and preseason and

1186
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 4: that raises their trade value and they get moved or

1187
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 4: they're just not cutting it. One of those two, and

1188
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 4: maybe one of the running backs. I could see Nahem

1189
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 4: Hines and I feel like we talked about this last time,

1190
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 4: or maybe it was Maddie, and I think it might

1191
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 4: have been mating Maddie that with the crowded running back

1192
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 4: room now suddenly going from kind of a weakness to

1193
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 4: the roster to now I think one of the strengths

1194
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 4: of the roster in terms of the amount of quality

1195
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 4: running backs you have, the diversity in their talent, and

1196
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 4: now with the new kickoff rule, Naheim Hines obviously was

1197
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 4: a very splashy kick returner last season. If that impact

1198
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 4: gets reduced, I think it's gonna be hard for him

1199
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 4: to make the roster. And Bean because this is probably

1200
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 4: the deepest roster that he's ever feel I think he

1201
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 4: will be having the phone lines open for one of

1202
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 4: his kind of vintage and I actually think two vintage

1203
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 4: being August Trates.

1204
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 2: Right, And to Andrew's point, the roster is so good, right,

1205
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 2: now that you don't just want to throw capable NFL

1206
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: talent overboard and just cut them. You want to take

1207
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: advantage of an opportunity if it presents itself. For example,

1208
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: some team could have a rash of injuries at the

1209
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: defensive end spot they're desperate for an influx of talent.

1210
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 3: They're going to call the Bills.

1211
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they will call Buffalo and say, hey, who do

1212
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: you got that we can have because we need somebody

1213
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 2: that's going to make a difference here. And there are

1214
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: other positions where the Bills could probably help a team.

1215
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think there will be opportunities out there,

1216
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 2: and some may want to try to play the waiting

1217
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: game and say, well, they'll probably have to cut that

1218
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: player anyway. He's not going to make the roster. Why

1219
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: am I going to give something up if the Bills

1220
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 2: have to cut the guy anyway. The difference is you're

1221
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: now competing against thirty other teams for that player. Services

1222
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 2: You're it's not a guaranteed lock that you're gonna get

1223
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: that player, And that's what sometimes prompts a team to

1224
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 2: orchestraight a trade rather than wait for a team to

1225
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 2: cut the players. Knowing the roster cutdown days coming to

1226
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: get to fifty three.

1227
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 4: Let's not forget a few years ago Brandon Bean was

1228
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 4: able to trade Lee Smith to the Falcons for a

1229
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 4: seventh round pick, like in August, like a veteran blocking

1230
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 4: tight end, a very good blocking tight end leader in

1231
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 4: the locker room. He likes to make those trades in

1232
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 4: the offseason. Why at Teller maybe one that he would

1233
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 4: maybe like to have back, although it was instrumental into

1234
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 4: some other moves that they ultimately made.

1235
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: So he got a sixth round pick from the Patriots

1236
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 2: for Russell Bodie. Remember that.

1237
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, See, so he's very much not only is it

1238
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 4: in his blood as a GM, I think other gms

1239
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 4: know that that. Hey, if we call Brandon Bean, we

1240
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 4: could probably talk him into a trade. And what you mentioned,

1241
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 4: the team is just loaded, had a lot of positions.

1242
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 4: So if there is a rash of injuries at defensive

1243
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 4: end or a running back, or at corner or along

1244
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 4: the offensive or defensive lines, you want to call Buffalo

1245
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 4: because it's one of the best deepest rosters in the NFL.

1246
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: Eight oh three zero five fifty eight five fifty two

1247
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: five fifty the number to get on board. And we're

1248
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: gonna go back to the phones now and to Kevin

1249
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: in Hamburg. What do you got first, Kevin? You're all one?

1250
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, you doing? Thanks for digging my call. Sure, I'd

1251
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 10: like to go back to what Bob said, one of

1252
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 10: the earliest callers on the show, that said about how

1253
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 10: we got shunned, because whether it be the Digs thing,

1254
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 10: whether the way we ended last year getting spanked by

1255
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 10: the Bengals, the way the Jets when Aaron Rodgers might

1256
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 10: be their new Joe Neemi, all that garbage. And I

1257
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 10: noticed that sometimes in life against sports, the shocker is

1258
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 10: the best, you know. It's like even in the movies.

1259
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 10: I remember the first time I saw the Karate Kid

1260
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 10: and like, there's no way this scrownny kid with a

1261
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 10: meet and this guy's gonna take down the Cobra Kai.

1262
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 10: And he's like, wow, he took down the Cobra Kai

1263
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 10: or Buster Douglas and the Tyson thing. I couldn't believe

1264
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 10: when he beat Tyson. I'm like, what, There's no way

1265
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 10: he beat Tyson, you know, and all that. So someday

1266
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 10: that we do and we win it all won't be

1267
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 10: our own taking down the Cobra Kai in this case

1268
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 10: would be the cheese, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1269
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 10: I used to had to have a target right in

1270
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 10: your face because when things happened last year, turnovers and

1271
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 10: all that, people started, Oh, here we go, they're going

1272
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 10: down the toilet. You know what I'm saying.

1273
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I get what you're saying, Kevin, And thanks

1274
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: for the call. I would say that you know what

1275
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 2: you're looking at. There might the analogies and the parallels

1276
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: you're trying to draw, I think are a little different

1277
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 2: than the boat that the Bills are in, at least

1278
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 2: in my estimation, because you know, Karate kid, the kids

1279
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 2: an underdog, you know, just learned karate and he's got

1280
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: this unbelievable crane kick that he learned from, as you

1281
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 2: put it, the maintenance man, mister Miyagi, and he defeats

1282
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 2: the cobra Kai or whatever you know. In your other parallels,

1283
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: they were all very entertaining. Don't get me wrong, But

1284
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 2: I don't think even though the Bills are kind of

1285
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: getting tamped down by the national media as a team

1286
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 2: that is no longer elite. They're upper echelon, but maybe

1287
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: they're not up there with the Chiefs and the Bengals

1288
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: in a lot of people's estimation. I think that is

1289
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 2: a gross miscalculation. So to me, seeing them as this

1290
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 2: plucky underdog, it doesn't wash for me. As Steve says

1291
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 2: all the time, they've been good enough to win it

1292
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 2: the last three years. They just got to play better

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Speaker 2: in the playoff games, play better on that day, and

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Speaker 2: they have not done that. But they've been good enough

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Speaker 2: to win the whole thing in the last three years.

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Speaker 2: It just hasn't manifested itself for them. Hopefully that changes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And let's not forget last year they were a

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Speaker 4: fumbled snap away or a Jefferson one handed left handed

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Speaker 4: catch on fourth down away from being the one seed

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Speaker 4: in the AFC. Even with the DeMar Hamlin game, they

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Speaker 4: would have been the one seed. And they were pretty

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Speaker 4: much cruising the entire season. They had what their point

1303
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 4: differential in losses was what eight points?

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Speaker 3: Nine points lost three eight points.

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Speaker 4: So because they didn't win a Super Bowl, we can

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Speaker 4: reflect back now and say, hey, they ultimately didn't live

1307
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Speaker 4: up to the hype. That's true in a sense, but

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Speaker 4: it's not as though they fell woefully short of those

1309
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Speaker 4: preseason expectations. The game against the Bengals was a different

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Speaker 4: Bills team in terms of there just wasn't the same

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Speaker 4: players out there. Von Miller wasn't out there, Daikwon Jones

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Speaker 4: wasn't out there. We've talked about this ald season, but

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Speaker 4: in general, I think the Bills have actually done a

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Speaker 4: good job. They did a good job last year meeting

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Speaker 4: those expectations for the most part throughout the regular season,

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Speaker 4: going thirteen to three, hosting playoff games, and I think

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Speaker 4: they've kind of been both now. They've been that favorite,

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Speaker 4: and I think in general, Buffer is always going to

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Speaker 4: be that underdog.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they're kind of the.

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Speaker 4: Underdog among the elite teams, which is actually, I think

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Speaker 4: a pretty good spot to be in because, like you

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Speaker 4: mentioned Chris earlier, it still provides Sean McDermott and the

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Speaker 4: coaching staff and maybe even the front office some bulletin

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Speaker 4: board material for the players entry in the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's any question about that. And

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01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 2: I think McDermott and probably these players don't mind laying

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01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: in the weeds a little bit for sure, after all

1329
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Speaker 2: the pub and hype that they got last year. Let's

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Speaker 2: go back to the phones. We go to Jeff and

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Speaker 2: Buffalo next.

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Speaker 11: What do you got for us, Jeff, Hi, guys, I

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Speaker 11: was just wondering about Dalton kin kid. He seems to

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Speaker 11: be of I mean I only watched him playing one

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Speaker 11: game Utah against the USC, which you know, I mean

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Speaker 11: he was a completely seemed to be a completely different

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01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 11: type wide receiver or not received tight end, completely different

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Speaker 11: type of tight end than Dawston Knox. He uh, he

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Speaker 11: was fast. I mean he had the speed of it.

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Speaker 11: He looked like he had the speed of a wide receiver.

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Speaker 11: And I mean I remember during the course of that game,

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Speaker 11: I was two or three times I said, whoa, who

1343
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 11: is the sky? And I hope we can get him?

1344
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 11: And now he's there. And I'm just wondering if you

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01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 11: guys watched him play more. Of course he did probably,

1346
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 11: And I'm just wondering if you see the same thing

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01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 11: that he could be a complete he could be a

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01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 11: difference maker if he's the guy that I that I

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01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 11: saw against USC wny way you guys think about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll let Chris take this since he does a

1351
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 2: lot of homework on the draft, and then I'll chime

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Speaker 2: in here.

1353
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Speaker 3: So here's my quick scouting report on him pre draft.

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01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 4: He was the most explosive and probably best route runner

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01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 4: among all the tight ends, and it was a very

1356
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Speaker 4: very good tight end class.

1357
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 3: Amazing hands we saw all in the.

1358
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Speaker 4: YouTube video that the Bills put out that their senior

1359
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 4: director of football Research, Dennis Locke, mentioned that best hands

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Speaker 4: that he's ever seen in his time scouting. I agree

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01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 4: with that among the tight end position. Only had two

1362
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 4: drops on one hundred and sixty five targets in his

1363
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Speaker 4: college career. I think he has a very high floor.

1364
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Speaker 4: The fact that he is older. He's going to be

1365
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 4: twenty four in October. I don't love that for his

1366
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 4: long term upside, you'd like him to be twenty twenty

1367
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 4: one years old. But in terms of the fact that

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Speaker 4: he already is that age, I think he can come in,

1369
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 4: run good routes, find the hole in zone, and kind

1370
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Speaker 4: of be which is like my favorite nickname of the offseason,

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Speaker 4: swoll Beasley.

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Speaker 3: That he can be that bigger type player.

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Speaker 4: I've seen it on Twitter a little bit like that

1374
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 4: someone's got to make it a T shirt that he

1375
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 4: can be that possession guy that can run good routes,

1376
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Speaker 4: and I think he's pretty sneaky good after the catch

1377
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Speaker 4: as well. I was just concerned about the fact that

1378
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Speaker 4: he really didn't break out until he was older, and

1379
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Speaker 4: that was really my only concern with him, so to

1380
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Speaker 4: get him as the first tight end off the board

1381
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Speaker 4: to add to this offense right now for twenty twenty three,

1382
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 4: for not looking at projecting him forward, Yes, I do

1383
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 4: think he can be an instant impact player that opens

1384
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 4: up a lot of other things, and a lot of

1385
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 4: other players aren't seeing double coverage as much anymore, like

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Speaker 4: Gabriel Davis or Stefan Diggs.

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Speaker 2: Dalton kin Ka's hands are bigger than Josh Allen's.

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Speaker 3: That's insane.

1389
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Speaker 2: It's a big reason why he is such a sure

1390
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 2: handed receiver of the ball. He had four drops in

1391
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Speaker 2: his entire college career over four plus seasons. And I

1392
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Speaker 2: just think you're asking, how is he different from Knox.

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Speaker 2: The biggest difference is just the fluidity in the way

1394
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: that he runs routes. There is a fluidity to his

1395
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 2: game because he can really run. Dawson is an athlete

1396
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: and he can make plays for you, but he is

1397
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 2: more of the box out variety. He's a little stiffer

1398
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 2: in the hips. You know, he can't bend and twist

1399
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 2: and turn and get in and out of breaks. The

1400
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 2: same way that Dalton can. He's just such a fluid

1401
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:59,879
Speaker 2: and loose hipped athletic player. It affords him the ability

1402
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: to get separation much easier than Dawson does. Now, that's

1403
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 2: not to say that Dawson can't be a productive player. Heck,

1404
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 2: he's got fifteen touchdowns the last two seasons. There's only

1405
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 2: two guys with more at the tight end position Kelsey

1406
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 2: and Kittle. Wow, that's it. So he's a productive player.

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Speaker 2: But as Steve and I have said, Dalton Kincaid here

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01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: I think could make Knox an even bigger touchdown producer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're just totally different tight ends. I think

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01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 4: when the Bills traded up to pick Dawson Knox, they

1411
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 4: were all about his upside, and he is becolm. He's

1412
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 4: developed into a very big time touchdown producer. As Chris

1413
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 4: just pointed out, they're different though beyond how you kind

1414
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 4: of differentiated their athleticism, because Knox is a good athlete,

1415
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 4: Kincaid's more fluid in terms of their experience just catching

1416
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 4: the football in college, Dawson Knox had thirty nine catches

1417
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,759
Speaker 4: at Ole Miss. He had AJ Brown and DK metcalf

1418
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 4: on that offense, so that was a little hard.

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01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 2: Their offense doesn't run through the tight end either down.

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01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 4: There exactly, so it was hard for him to see

1421
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 4: the football. Dalton Kin Kid caught one hundred and twenty

1422
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 4: six passes, so basically four times as many passes in college.

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Speaker 4: That's why I think the floor is higher. And we

1424
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 4: saw some of those growing pains early in Dawson Knox's

1425
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 4: career that he's kind of been able to round out

1426
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 4: of his game as he's gotten into year three and

1427
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 4: year four. Dalon Kin Kaid, I think can come in

1428
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 4: right away and be further ahead of where Dawson Knox

1429
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 4: was as a rookie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think for a team that is often reluctant

1431
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 2: to thrust rookies into large roles, I really think that

1432
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 2: Kencaid can be an exception to that rule. To the

1433
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 2: point that you made him already being twenty four, he's

1434
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 2: a more mature player, a lot of experience in college,

1435
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 2: so I think that affords him the chance and enhanced

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01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: chance to be on the field a lot, get a

1437
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 2: lot of reps, and hopefully a lot of opportunities in

1438
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 2: the passing game. Break time for us here when we

1439
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 2: come back more of your questions, got open lines for

1440
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: you at eight h three zero five point fifty one

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01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: eighty eight five point fifty two five fifty the number

1442
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 2: to get on board if you have a question about

1443
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 2: the Bills or the league. A large letter rip also

1444
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 2: got some questions we still have to get to on Twitter.

1445
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 2: We'll try to fire off as many of those answers

1446
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 2: as we can here. Next on One Bill's Live stage show.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Chris Terrapasso with you OBL Fan Friday mailbag is open

1449
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 2: either on Twitter or on the phone lines where we

1450
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 2: have an open line for you at eight oh three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 2: five fifty. We're gonna go to Twitter questions. First, Connor

1453
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 2: asks who do you think the starting five will be

1454
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: on the offensive line? Here are mind left to right.

1455
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: He's got Dawkins, McGovern, Morse, Osiris, Torrance, and Spencer Brown.

1456
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 2: Now I think realistically right guard is probably the number

1457
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:55,919
Speaker 2: one position that could see a change. Spencer Brown figures

1458
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 2: to have some competition from Brandon Schell, who I think

1459
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 2: was brought into to push him even more than question

1460
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 2: Berry could last year, So I think those are the

1461
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Speaker 2: only positions we really could foresee a change outside of

1462
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 2: the other three. I think most of us feel McGovern's

1463
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 2: a foregone conclusion. He was the largest contract investment in

1464
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 2: the offensive line this offseason, and I think, yeah, the

1465
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 2: largest free agent contract for the team this offseason. That

1466
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: guy's not sitting on the bench when he's getting paid

1467
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 2: that kind of money. So I think everybody anticipates he

1468
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 2: will be the replacement for Roger Saffold. But the right

1469
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 2: guard position potentially could have three candidates there, the incumbent,

1470
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 2: Ryan Bates, Osiris Torrance, the second round pick, and David Edwards,

1471
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Speaker 2: the free agent that they brought over from the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Those three guys could all be in the mix for

1473
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 2: that spot. And Steve and I were having this conversation

1474
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 2: earlier this week, Chris, you look at the size of

1475
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: the lineman they signed this offseason. Osirih's Torrance drafted over

1476
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty pounds, David Edwards six foot five,

1477
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty pounds, Connor McGovern six four and

1478
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 2: a half three hundred and twenty pounds, Ryan Bates six

1479
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 2: foot three, three hundred and five pounds. It seems as

1480
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 2: though the acquisitions are telling you there's a philosophy shift

1481
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 2: of the type of player they want on the interior.

1482
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 4: They want to just be more mashing up front. I

1483
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 4: think that's clearly what it says, that's what you're getting at.

1484
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 4: I think with Ryan Bates, even if he doesn't win

1485
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 4: that starting right guard role, then I think he actually

1486
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 4: held down pretty well last year. That doesn't mean he's

1487
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 4: going to be caught or going to be traded. I

1488
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 4: think they value his legitimate five position versatility, and with

1489
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 4: Mitch Morse his concussion history, given his age, I think

1490
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 4: he's certainly entrenched as the starting center. But if he

1491
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 4: goes down or maybe he dips in play, you can

1492
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 4: plug in Ryan Bates, and I think they would feel

1493
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 4: really good about that. So that's one are that I

1494
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,759
Speaker 4: actually think kind of helps o Cyrus Torrance that Ryan

1495
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 4: Bates is a good right guard, but he's also super

1496
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 4: versatile and can play anywhere as your swing tackle, your

1497
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 4: swing guard, your swing interior offensive lineman. I actually like

1498
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 4: that same starting five for week one, so.

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01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: You like Osiris to win the job. I like Edwards.

1500
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 2: He's a proven player, but there is an injury history

1501
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 2: there that's of concern, similar to that of Mitch Morse.

1502
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 2: That's not to say he can't come in and earn

1503
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 2: the job. He could, but I think I think Osirius Torrance,

1504
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,759
Speaker 2: even if he proves to be at the same level

1505
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 2: as a Ryan Bates or a David Edwards in terms

1506
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 2: of execution, ability to play with his fellow lineman, you know,

1507
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 2: play off one another effectively, et cetera, that could be

1508
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 2: enough to give him the job because he's just scratching

1509
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 2: the service. The upside there, if he's good enough now

1510
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 2: to give you just as good a play as a

1511
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 2: Ryan Bates or a David Edwards, who are starters in

1512
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 2: this league or have been, you probably lean that way

1513
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: because he fits the body type you want in there,

1514
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 2: and you anticipate that with each successive start, he's only

1515
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 2: going to get better and better and better.

1516
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, And similar to Dawson or to Dalton Kincaid, the

1517
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 4: Bill's first round pick, Osyrus Torrans is very experienced, only

1518
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 4: one year at Florida, but at Louisiana Lafayette before that.

1519
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,799
Speaker 4: You combine those together over three thousand snaps in college,

1520
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 4: so you could say, hey, look, he only played one

1521
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 4: year in the SEC.

1522
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,560
Speaker 3: You watch his film before that he was dominant.

1523
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 4: He was an awesome player at Louisiana made that jump already,

1524
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 4: and I think that's important, And the Bills have pointed

1525
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 4: out that they like that this is a player that

1526
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 4: already kind of made a small school jump to the SEC.

1527
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 4: Now he's going from the SEC to the NFL, and

1528
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 4: it wasn't too.

1529
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 3: Big for him.

1530
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 4: The lights were not too break for him at Florida,

1531
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 4: facing Alabama and facing that Georgia defensive line that sends

1532
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 4: all these NFL players to the league. So I think

1533
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 4: with o Cyrus, Torrans like Kincaid actually has a pretty

1534
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 4: high floor where you might not project him to be

1535
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 4: the best guard in the NFL in five seasons, but

1536
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 4: you like where he's going to start from as a rookie.

1537
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, David asks looking at the road schedule, the Bills

1538
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 2: have three long road trips after thereby Kansas City, LA,

1539
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 2: and Miami. Do you see this as an issue that

1540
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 2: may impact the end of the season. You'd rather have

1541
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 2: your long trips on the front half ear schedule rather

1542
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 2: than the back half. But there are home games sandwiched

1543
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: in between those three road dates that you mentioned, so

1544
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 2: that kind of mitigates what you're describing there to some degree.

1545
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 2: If you had two of those in a row, I

1546
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 2: would be concerned. But because they have the Cowboys home

1547
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 2: game and the Patriots home game sandwiched in between those

1548
01:19:55,320 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 2: three road dates, I feel a little bit better about them.

1549
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 2: The Chargers one, I think is going to be the

1550
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 2: toughest because it's a night game on a Sunday on

1551
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: the West Coast. Those guys are not getting back until

1552
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 2: six seven in the morning on Monday.

1553
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.

1554
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 4: I think if you're looking at the schedule, the fact

1555
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 4: that and certainly the Bills have a on paper, a

1556
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 4: tough schedule. That's what happens when you win the division,

1557
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 4: and just kind of how it aligns with the other

1558
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 4: divisions that they're playing. It's pretty tough on paper. There

1559
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 4: are a lot of high caliber quarterbacks. But given that

1560
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 4: the fact that they only have one back to back

1561
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 4: road game and there's the bye week sandwich in between

1562
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 4: it November twenty sixth against the Eagles. Then the bye week,

1563
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 4: you get the extra rest, the extra preparation time for

1564
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,759
Speaker 4: that road contest on December tenth.

1565
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 3: Against the Chiefs.

1566
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 4: I think that's about as nice as a schedule as

1567
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 4: the Bills could have asked for, and then to have

1568
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 4: October first, eighth, and fifteenth home games.

1569
01:20:58,439 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 3: I know there's one in London.

1570
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 4: They have a bunch of those early games at home

1571
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:05,879
Speaker 4: where you're not saying, hey, look, we have four games

1572
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 4: post Thanksgiving at home where the weather's going to be

1573
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 4: a factor, maybe not a total sellout, where the crowd

1574
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 4: can be as big of an impact as they can

1575
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,759
Speaker 4: earlier in the season when the weather is a lot nicer.

1576
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 4: I think it was really laid out for the Bills

1577
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 4: nicely to not have three in a row on the road,

1578
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 4: or not have back to back weeks having to travel.

1579
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 2: This one comes from Gabe who asks which Bills contracts

1580
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 2: can be rewritten to free up DeAndre Hopkins cash. I

1581
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 2: gotta say, I don't think the Bills want to kick

1582
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: the can down the road on any contract. In terms

1583
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 2: of a restructure. You want to talk signing somebody to

1584
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 2: an extension to free up money. I think that's the

1585
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 2: more likely play. If they want to do that, you

1586
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 2: could have there's candidates like Gabe Davis, you know, players

1587
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 2: like that. I don't think anyone they signed to a

1588
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 2: one year d this offseason would be extended necessarily. But

1589
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 2: I guess if DeAndre Hopkins calls you up and says, yeah,

1590
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 2: I'll come for the veteran minimum, and your only means

1591
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 2: of doing that is by signing tailor Rap to an

1592
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 2: extension of two more years. Well, he's a twenty five

1593
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 2: year old player. Okay, go ahead, man, lock him up.

1594
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 2: I could see that. But what is Hopkins going to do?

1595
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 2: I don't know. We've kind of gone around in circles

1596
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 2: about this thing. I think ultimately the money is going

1597
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: to be what matters. He's already chapped that he couldn't

1598
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: get a contract like Beckham got when he was a

1599
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 2: guy that played last year and Beckham did not.

1600
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty great.

1601
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 2: That really bothers him, And so knowing that, I think

1602
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 2: he's going to try to maximize whatever he can get financially. Now,

1603
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 2: if all the offers are relatively the same, well then yeah,

1604
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 2: he's going to go probably somewhere where he knows he

1605
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 2: can get to the playoffs, probably maximize his value for

1606
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 2: next offseason. But if that's not the case, he's gonna

1607
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 2: go take the money wherever he can get the most.

1608
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 3: I think the only other extension candidate.

1609
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 4: I could see you mentioned Gabriel Davis and maybe some

1610
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 4: of those one year.

1611
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 3: Deal type players. Daikwon Jones.

1612
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 4: He's up there in age, he's on the wrong side

1613
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 4: of thirty, but he proved to be an integl and

1614
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 4: kind of a unique force as that block eating player

1615
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 4: on the interior of the instable stuff. But he was

1616
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 4: definitely their best run stuffer. He was missed dearly in

1617
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 4: the playoff game against the Bengals when he was that

1618
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 4: late healthy or not healthy scratch, but a late scratch.

1619
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 3: In that game.

1620
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 4: He's the only one that I could see where they

1621
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 4: could extend him to free up some cap space for

1622
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins.

1623
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 3: He and Gabe Davis.

1624
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 4: Right now, just looking at the roster guys who are

1625
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 4: entrenched already on the team that are not on one

1626
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 4: of year deals, unless you're someone that we're forgetting, I

1627
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 4: think those are really the only two options if they

1628
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 4: really wanted to make this work with Hopkins.

1629
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 2: I mean, we know coach McDermott likes Dane Jackson a lot.

1630
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 2: He's on a one year contract. He's an option, I suppose,

1631
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 2: still a young player. You know, he's one of your

1632
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 2: top four corners. On the outside. No matter which way

1633
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 2: the depth chart shakes out, at least I think, yeah,

1634
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 2: he's on a Yeah, he's on a one year deal,

1635
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 2: so I mean he's an option that I guess you

1636
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 2: could extend and you know, you'd still have prime years

1637
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 2: of his career coming up. So but yeah, I mean

1638
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 2: there's always ways. It's funny because even our guys in

1639
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 2: the control room the cap is not real. It is real,

1640
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 2: but it can be very easily manipulated. Yes, and that's

1641
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 2: kind of what everybody needs to kind of understand. At

1642
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 2: the same time, we've heard Brandon being time and again

1643
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 2: talk about how year over year he wants to remain

1644
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 2: CAP strong, so he has the maneuverability to do certain

1645
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 2: things when the opportunity presents itself, whether it's we have

1646
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: a rash of injuries, we need to sign somebody off

1647
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 2: the street to fortify a position, or holy cal Von

1648
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 2: Miller wants to come play for us, okay, let's call them. Yeah.

1649
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:06,799
Speaker 2: So knowing that and granted that plan got totally blown

1650
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 2: up by the COVID slide back of the CAP, I mean,

1651
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 2: it's screwed everybody, let's be honest. But it's the cap, right,

1652
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 2: now still isn't where they envisioned it would be in

1653
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 2: the initial projections before COVID, and it's really kind of

1654
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 2: upset the Apple card for a lot of gms that

1655
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 2: are trying to be fiscally responsible with the contracts they

1656
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 2: signed players to. It's unfortunate and it's going to be

1657
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 2: very interesting to see going from this season to next

1658
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,480
Speaker 2: season where there might be some turnover of some household

1659
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 2: names that have been on this roster for some time

1660
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 2: that they just flat out can't afford to keep anymore.

1661
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that is something that needs to

1662
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 4: be built into every GM's philosophy that you need to

1663
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 4: be able to finagle the cap. Brandon Bean, like you mentioned,

1664
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 4: has done a great job with that. But like you

1665
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 4: said that, Steve always mentions that in each of the

1666
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 4: last three seasons, the Bills have been right there, and

1667
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 4: they've been a team good enough on paper, and then

1668
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 4: when we've seen them play to win a Super Bowl,

1669
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 4: it ultimately has an happened. I think it's the GM's

1670
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,759
Speaker 4: responsibility to not just say, hey, let's win a Super Bowl,

1671
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 4: but to also remain competitive and to be a contender

1672
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 4: because you never know what injuries are going to hit

1673
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 4: other teams or you, or which way the ball is

1674
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 4: going to ultimately bounce. So I think the fact that

1675
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 4: Brandon Bean has been able to not just go all

1676
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 4: in one season and then have a you know, bad

1677
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 4: rash of injuries and then you're kind of screwed in

1678
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 4: the future. The fact that he's been able to keep

1679
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 4: the Bills as perennial league consistent and contending is really

1680
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 4: hats off to him. That he's been able to be

1681
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 4: aggressive but also kind of walk the line of not being.

1682
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:37,799
Speaker 3: Over aggressive reckles.

1683
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 4: He's wreck spending, yes, reckless with the spending where the

1684
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 4: Bills are, Oh crap, we can't sign anybody. We can't

1685
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 4: make that trade for von Miller or you know, sign him,

1686
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 4: or trade for Stefon Diggs and sign him two extensions

1687
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 4: in the future.

1688
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 2: We have to break here when we come back. Austin

1689
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 2: Eckler is ticked that he doesn't make as much money

1690
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 2: as some number three wide receivers on other teams. The

1691
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 2: NFLPA get involved here. We're going to discuss that when

1692
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 2: we come back here on one Bill's Live, presented by

1693
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 2: Coluda Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, LA Chargers

1694
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 2: running back Austin Eckler is hot that there are number

1695
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 2: three receivers in the league making more money than him.

1696
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 2: He doesn't feel that fits the value because he believes

1697
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 2: he touches the ball makes a bigger impact on his

1698
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 2: team's fortunes than a number three receiver, and he's probably right.

1699
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 2: The question I have for you, Chris Trapasso, is this,

1700
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 2: can you foresee a time where the NFLPA gets involved

1701
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 2: and says, you know what, we want a lobby to

1702
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 2: do away with the position tax to reset the market.

1703
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 2: I think we're getting closer and closer to positionless football.

1704
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: I'm wondering how close they have to get for the

1705
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 2: NFLPA to step up for a player like Austin Eckler

1706
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 2: and say he's not a running back, he's a playmaker,

1707
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 2: and playmaker should make this much per year.

1708
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that will be something that will be

1709
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 4: talked about in the next CBA. I even think back

1710
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 4: to what five years ago when Le'Veon Bell was like, hey,

1711
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 4: i caught a ton of passes with the Steelers and

1712
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 4: I'm getting this running back tag. When the appeal and

1713
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 4: the production from Le'Veon Bell and Austin Eckler in this case,

1714
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara, Christian McCaffrey. They're so good multi tool weapons.

1715
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 4: I think James Cook with the Bills in the same deal.

1716
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might have like a fifty catch season this

1717
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 2: year for all we know. In my head, I'm reading

1718
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 2: this story and he's so mad about him having a

1719
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 2: giant impact on the team and a number three receiver

1720
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 2: not nearly as much. In most cases, he would be right.

1721
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there thinking to myself, do running backs

1722
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 2: have to go out there with like signs that say, hey,

1723
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,799
Speaker 2: running backs catch the ball too, like it's a passing league,

1724
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 2: But we do catch the ball.

1725
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 3: They do, they do, especially Uckler.

1726
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 2: That'll do it for this week. Thanks for all the

1727
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 2: questions you have fired off at us. Hopefully we did

1728
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 2: a good job answering. Chris, thanks for coming in and helping.

1729
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 2: Is always Steve back in on Monday. I'm off next week.

1730
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 2: I'll see a training camp. You have a good week.

1731
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 3: Nd MM