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Speaker 1: coordinator Steve Wilkes and former Jets receiver Quincy Newwah. Don't
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Speaker 1: When you got the call from a g about the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator of vacancy here, what was your reaction?
Speaker 3: I was excited, you know, ag and I was in
Speaker 3: communication for a while throughout the process, and so he
Speaker 3: kept me in the looping exactly what was going on.
Speaker 2: And when it narrowed down.
Speaker 3: To the Jets, I got real excited because I understand
Speaker 3: the personnel that we have here. I was excited about
Speaker 3: the guys that we have on defense, a lot of
Speaker 3: pieces to work with, so and I knew his relationship
Speaker 3: with organization that it was going to be a great
Speaker 3: fit with ownership.
Speaker 1: Where did your pass cross before this?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Really, we never worked together. A lot of tremendous respect
Speaker 3: for one another. We're in the same division when he
Speaker 3: was with the Saints, house with the Panthers. So as
Speaker 3: dB guys, we were always communicating talk, particularly when we
Speaker 3: got to the Combine. We were always fellowship there every year,
Speaker 3: and I think we just developed a relationship to where
Speaker 3: our philosophy and ideas were aligned with one another.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you speak to that Your philosophies as far
Speaker 1: as defensive football and attack and the offense.
Speaker 3: Well, well, one just you know, being aggressive through our
Speaker 3: base fundamentals, you know, number one, starting with that having
Speaker 3: guys on the perimeter that can cover and play man
Speaker 3: the man. Just our identity, how the defense should be shaped.
Speaker 3: Everything starts up front with really an aggressive mentality, you know. So, uh,
Speaker 3: just those conversations over the years, man, we just you know,
Speaker 3: realize that we're on the same page.
Speaker 1: The last game you coached in in the National Football
Speaker 1: League was the Super Bowl. What was the year away
Speaker 1: like for you? And can you speak to how the
Speaker 1: fire still burns after thirty plus years of experience coaching?
Speaker 2: It was great, man.
Speaker 3: It was an opportunity for me to really reset, recharge.
Speaker 3: I was over at UNC Charlotte which was right there
Speaker 3: at home, so it was very convenient for me. Uh.
Speaker 3: Coach Biff Pogie was outstanding, you know to invite me over.
Speaker 3: We built a great friendship and they practice in the morning,
Speaker 3: so rich really all afternoon. I would just watch tape
Speaker 3: and I had every game from the NFL each week,
Speaker 3: so I would study different you know, teams, different defenses.
Speaker 3: I watched a lot of Detroit and what they were doing,
Speaker 3: but just different things throughout the year, what they were
Speaker 3: doing on third down and what the you know schematics were.
Speaker 3: So uh, they able to progress and grow there and
Speaker 3: we're excited to get the phone call to get back
Speaker 3: into the fold.
Speaker 1: Is this a fair assessment of the way you go
Speaker 1: about it? You are an aggressive play caller who is
Speaker 1: a guy who's going to emphasize takeaways at every turn.
Speaker 2: That's my foundation.
Speaker 3: And when I came in the league with Lovey Smith,
Speaker 3: you know, it was just really with Chicago taking the
Speaker 3: football away, you know, with Peanut Tom and the peanut punch.
Speaker 3: Chris Harris, who's on the staff right now as the
Speaker 3: secondary coach pass game coordinator, he was another guy on
Speaker 3: that team that believed in really stripping and taking the
Speaker 3: ball Away and everywhere I've been that's always been our mantra,
Speaker 3: you know. So that's something that we're going to continue
Speaker 3: to coach and emphasize here. I'm all about the fundamentals
Speaker 3: and technique, you know, Coach ag talks about it all
Speaker 3: the time. It's not about our scheme, it's about our
Speaker 3: play style. And that's the one thing that we want
Speaker 3: to continue to emphasize. Being physical, you know, being smart right,
Speaker 3: and understanding how to finish not only on the field right,
Speaker 3: but even in the building.
Speaker 1: How do you go about connecting the players.
Speaker 2: I think that's always been my strong suit.
Speaker 3: Is anything in life I believe is about building relationships
Speaker 3: and having an understanding that there's life beyond football. And
Speaker 3: when you can sit here and cultivate those relationships with
Speaker 3: your players, I think it's easier to be able to
Speaker 3: coach them on the field.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I said this back years ago with Josh Norman when
Speaker 3: he left us in Carolina, he went to Washington and
Speaker 3: people said, well, he was never really the same player,
Speaker 3: and I said, you know, it's easy to develop the
Speaker 3: player when you're taking time to develop the person. And
Speaker 3: that's what I did with him in Carolina. We built
Speaker 3: that relationship, so it was easy for me to coach
Speaker 3: him and teach him on the field.
Speaker 1: AG said the first thing when I asked him about
Speaker 1: you was a straight shooter.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's what I believe in. And I believe
Speaker 3: in telling someone exactly what they need to hear, you know.
Speaker 3: I think that's so important. You know, we talk about
Speaker 3: all the time. You know, we want to act like
Speaker 3: a champion, and that's accountability, commitment, and trust. And that's
Speaker 3: what I'm trying to build with the team and that's
Speaker 3: what I want to be able to get back from them.
Speaker 2: And I'm always telling them the truth. You know.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they may not like it, but I think they're
Speaker 3: respected in the end. And I tell coaches all the time,
Speaker 3: we have to have grown men conversations. We can't shy
Speaker 3: away from things that we need to address. And I
Speaker 3: think that's so important, and that's where we are right now,
Speaker 3: you know, with Phase three, you know, talking about some
Speaker 3: of the discipline stuff, being consistent in how we operate
Speaker 3: on a day to day basis, and the guys are
Speaker 3: completely buying in which I appreciate.
Speaker 1: You've been a head coach in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: How can that experience help you with Aaron, who is
Speaker 1: an accomplished coach himself, but this is his first time
Speaker 1: as a head coach in the National Football League.
Speaker 3: I think it's just always trying to draw on past
Speaker 3: experiences when things come up, and a lot of those
Speaker 3: aren't really related to football, you know, So having an
Speaker 3: ear that one who's gone through it and you know,
Speaker 3: can really understand the situation that he's sitting in that seat.
Speaker 3: So I think that's so important to have that outlet
Speaker 3: and that have that guy because sometimes in that seat, man,
Speaker 3: you feel like there's no one you can talk to
Speaker 3: because you're you're really dealing with different things way beyond football.
Speaker 3: So I think, you know, I can be a sounding
Speaker 3: board for him in regards to that.
Speaker 1: Can you speak to the importance of the assistance on
Speaker 1: your staff, the assistant coaches on your stuff, Man.
Speaker 3: The assistant coaches are so huge. And I've said this
Speaker 3: for years, Like the head coach delivers the message, he
Speaker 3: says the foundation, and it's our responsibility as coordinators and
Speaker 3: assistant coaches to echo that. And I try to do
Speaker 3: the same thing as soon as I leave the team meeting,
Speaker 3: you know, emphasizing the stuff that we talked about as
Speaker 3: a staff and then now as assistant coaches, they have
Speaker 3: really the most influenced because they're around their guys once
Speaker 3: they go into those private, you know, individual rooms, it's about,
Speaker 3: you know, the presentation and how you teach it, how
Speaker 3: you present it, and guys man a phenomenal I bounced
Speaker 3: around to each room. We got great teaching. That's one
Speaker 3: of the things I truly believe in as coaches. You know,
Speaker 3: great teachers, outstanding communicators, and guys that can develop players.
Speaker 1: Speaking of players, what is it going to be what
Speaker 1: is it going to be like for some of these
Speaker 1: guys who are playing for is Steve Wilkes defense in
Speaker 1: the secondary? Because you mentioned Chris Harris before. Dre Bligh
Speaker 1: is here as well. Also, the head coach played the
Speaker 1: National Football League for fifteen years himself, was a position
Speaker 1: coach before he became defensive coordinator and now is at
Speaker 1: the top of the He's at the top of the ladder.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I always say this, right, everything we do starts up front.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't care what is We have to
Speaker 3: do a great job of establishing the line of scrimmage
Speaker 3: up in the run. The second level right there, are
Speaker 3: called you know, Quincy and Sherwood right there, they're the glue,
Speaker 3: you know. And then on the back end, I emphasized
Speaker 3: we drive the bus from the back, the last line
Speaker 3: of defense, right we can't make a mistake back there.
Speaker 3: And our communication thus far throughout the process has been phenomenal.
Speaker 2: We're building on that each and every day.
Speaker 3: You know, when you look at Cisco, you look at
Speaker 3: Brandon Stevens, the guys that we picked up. Man, We've
Speaker 3: really got some great guys in free agency. I'm excited
Speaker 3: about Malaca, you know, the guys that we drafted. I
Speaker 3: think coach ag And and Darren Moosey has done a
Speaker 3: tremendous job the host out of the department and really
Speaker 3: nailing the draft. So our secondary man fundamentally sound aggressive
Speaker 3: in how we, you know, approach each and every day.
Speaker 3: You know, I think the identity you're a defense is
Speaker 3: how your DB's tackle. Right, We're going to be physical
Speaker 3: on the back end. You know, they block support and
Speaker 3: they say one on one right now that running back
Speaker 3: in your dB. I tell those guys all the time,
Speaker 3: we better show up. You know, that's our mentality right here.
Speaker 3: And as you mentioned earlier, Man it's about making plays
Speaker 3: on the ball and taking the ball away.
Speaker 1: What did you know about Sherwood before you got here
Speaker 1: and why was that an important resigning for this defense
Speaker 1: and the entire team? Well?
Speaker 3: Well, really, man, you go back and I'm hoping, and
Speaker 3: I don't like comparing, right, but when I look at
Speaker 3: Sherwood and I really look at Quincy, man, I go
Speaker 3: back over my tenure and you know Thomas and Luke,
Speaker 3: you know, Fred Warner and Greenlaw a.
Speaker 2: Few years ago.
Speaker 3: They have that ability, you know, for us playing together
Speaker 3: and being here in the off season and building that
Speaker 3: foundation is great. Sherwood was really you know, at that point,
Speaker 3: management AG decided to move on with mostly and I thought,
Speaker 3: you know, Sherwood, is your time to step up in
Speaker 3: that room and be that leader, not only in that
Speaker 3: room but on that side of the defense.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: And I can't tell you how pleased and excited I
Speaker 3: am in the leadership role that he's taking, you know.
Speaker 3: And you know you see that, you know a guy
Speaker 3: that just got paid and it's like he's still hungry.
Speaker 3: He's still hungry, he's still trying to make sure that
Speaker 3: he does everything he can to help this defense.
Speaker 1: What do you think about some of the pieces up front,
Speaker 1: starting with a cornerstone defensive tackle in Quinn Williams Man.
Speaker 3: I love Quinny, I love him. He's phenomenal. Uh, this
Speaker 3: guy is one of the top the tackles in the NFL.
Speaker 3: You know, when you look at other guys we brought
Speaker 3: in Colen Byron, you know Jay, you know he is phenomenalus,
Speaker 3: quick off his feet, quick off the ball. I think
Speaker 3: those guys are really going to compliment Quinny, you know.
Speaker 3: And when even when you look outside and what we
Speaker 3: have with will Germaine, you know clym And I'm excited
Speaker 3: about Tyler Barron, you know, one of the guys that
Speaker 3: we drafted right here. So all those guys are looking
Speaker 3: good in their progression in the right direction.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Lastly, Sauce Garner, you mentioned your expectations for the secondary
Speaker 1: as a whole. What his coaching Sauce been like in
Speaker 1: the early going, and what is your expectation going to
Speaker 1: be from him as you get to these next stages,
Speaker 1: because right now you're instilling the system. You're out here
Speaker 1: in the spring and training camps on the horizon.
Speaker 3: The first thing I would say about him smart, he
Speaker 3: is tremendously smart, understands the game, sees it through a
Speaker 3: different lands, which is great. Our dialogue and communication is
Speaker 3: like I'm talking to one of the coaches and how
Speaker 3: I present things to him. Formation splits id in certain
Speaker 3: guys aligning at different positions. Therefore he can play fast
Speaker 3: the system, you know, as we implement and install different things.
Speaker 3: I think he's picking it up great. We're challenging him
Speaker 3: right now to be consistent, you know, and his technique
Speaker 3: and his approach. He can be one of the consistently
Speaker 3: one of the top players in this league. As we
Speaker 3: already know. I'm talking about, you know, a big time
Speaker 3: you know corner as we had one here years ago
Speaker 3: for as Revis. You know, he has that kind of
Speaker 3: potential and ability. So I'm excited to see what he's
Speaker 3: going to do this year. Thanks coach, Thank you, I
Speaker 3: appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: with the Jets. Of course, defensive coordinator last four seasons
Speaker 1: in Detroit, they flip that thing. He makes a very
Speaker 1: important hire, I thought early on Steve Wilkes defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: For him, Wilkes is going to be calling plays and
Speaker 1: also he brings that head coaching acumen to the table,
Speaker 1: so he'll be able to help ag out throughout the season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and one thing I love about this defense is
Speaker 4: that all the coaches, well for the most part, are
Speaker 4: former players, right, So that's a different you know, you're
Speaker 4: you're you're talking about you know, guys that have been
Speaker 4: in the game understand it. So yeah, it'll be interesting
Speaker 4: to see, you know, how that relays onto the players
Speaker 4: because you know, this is going to be a defense
Speaker 4: that's bringing back some guys that obviously are really talented.
Speaker 4: And saw us in Quinny, right. MC two didn't have
Speaker 4: a great year last year. He was coming off an injury,
Speaker 4: so now we get to see him really come back
Speaker 4: and play well. So, uh, you know, I'm excited to see,
Speaker 4: you know how this kind of shapes up.
Speaker 1: I think people are sleeping on the Jets defensively a
Speaker 1: little bit because you just mentioned it. They do have
Speaker 1: elite players at every level. If you're really talking about
Speaker 1: you go to the secondary and you have the sauce Gardner.
Speaker 1: Then you go up a couple levels and you have
Speaker 1: that cornerstone piece a defensive tackle with Quinn Williams. Then
Speaker 1: at the linebacker and NAT tandem was sure Wood. Quincy
Speaker 1: Williams is dynamic.
Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely.
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I think there's the question marks are understandable,
Speaker 4: right especially coming off of last year, you know, so
Speaker 4: it makes sense that people are like, you know, are
Speaker 4: they going to be good this year? You know, you
Speaker 4: still have another question mark DJ. You lose a guy
Speaker 4: like that, you know, you hope that the guy on
Speaker 4: the opposite side and Brandon Stevens can kind of pick
Speaker 4: up that slack or even do even more. So, you know,
Speaker 4: safety position was obviously a question mark Cisco. You know
Speaker 4: last year wasn't his best year, but prior to that,
Speaker 4: you know he was a great safety. So you know,
Speaker 4: I say this all the time now that you know
Speaker 4: Ag really wants his coaches to be able to coach right,
Speaker 4: to be able to really get the most out of
Speaker 4: his guys.
Speaker 1: Let me read you some stats from last year. The
Speaker 1: Jets were third and NFL yards per game three hundred
Speaker 1: and thirteen point eight, seventeenth in rush yards per game
Speaker 1: allowed one to twenty one point one, but sixth in
Speaker 1: rush yards per play it's just a little over four
Speaker 1: point zero. It's close to four point one. Interception rate
Speaker 1: that's been a problem for a little bit around here,
Speaker 1: twenty seventh in the National Football League one point three
Speaker 1: four percent. Where is sex per pass attempt They wanted
Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback with seventh seventeenth in the
Speaker 1: red zone, so about fifty eight point seventh three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So in Detroit, the emphasis for Aaron Glynnen was stop
Speaker 1: the run and take the football way right. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be the same deal.
Speaker 2: Here, Oh absolutely, and you know it'll be.
Speaker 4: I think if they can make Bandon Stevens and Saws
Speaker 4: Gardener two guys that take the football away, I mean
Speaker 4: that's going to change the course of all the season,
Speaker 4: right because a guy like Bandon Steeds, I think he would,
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, in my opinion, he was
Speaker 4: in a lot of plays. He just wasn't always able
Speaker 4: to track the ball. And I heard Steve Wilks also
Speaker 4: say this himself that you know, one thing they want
Speaker 4: to work on with him is trying to find the
Speaker 4: ball a little bit better, you know, figuring out how
Speaker 4: to play the game like a receiver, you know, So
Speaker 4: it'll be good for them to get him on that track.
Speaker 4: And then saw us as a guy that we've been
Speaker 4: wanting him to get picked, you know, since he got here.
Speaker 4: So I think you're just kind of having a different
Speaker 4: view that this year and having a guy like ag
Speaker 4: just play the game's gonna be helpful, Andre Blig.
Speaker 1: The Jets had seven interceptions last season that was tied
Speaker 1: for twenty six. I mean they got to get the
Speaker 1: ball more. Yeah, and five of those picks were from
Speaker 1: guys who are no longer on the russ Right, you
Speaker 1: just mentioned Stevens being around the ball. The Gardner dynamic
Speaker 1: is very interesting because a lot of teams opposing quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are like, oh, Gardner's over there, I'm staying away from him.
Speaker 1: So how does he get more picks? How do the
Speaker 1: Jets schematically put him in a position where he'll had
Speaker 1: more opportunities to make plays in the ball.
Speaker 4: Well, So be honest with you, I think that there
Speaker 4: might be a little bit of a shift this year.
Speaker 4: I think that teams I don't think teams believe that
Speaker 4: they can beat Sauce, right, But I still think that
Speaker 4: there's going to be a little bit more challenging him,
Speaker 4: right You think about like Tennessee last year, they challenged him.
Speaker 4: There were a couple other teams that challenged him. You
Speaker 4: got to have a quarterback that's confident in himself or
Speaker 4: just kind of silly, you know, makes it, you know,
Speaker 4: desions that you don't really agree with. But you know,
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be up to the teams
Speaker 4: to say, listen, my receiver might not be able to
Speaker 4: get open, but can he catch the ball on Sauce
Speaker 4: Because right now, Sauce doesn't show that he's going to
Speaker 4: get the turnover, and so maybe I'll take the incompletion right,
Speaker 4: or I'll take the jump ball and give my guy
Speaker 4: an opportunity. So I think this year he might have more,
Speaker 4: you know, more times where teams will throw at him.
Speaker 4: You know, especially if for playing some receivers that you know,
Speaker 4: these teams have confidence.
Speaker 1: What do you see from him in terms of how
Speaker 1: can he how can he come down with it?
Speaker 4: It's tough, you know. I think he's usually in position
Speaker 4: and I think a lot of times he doesn't take, Well,
Speaker 4: he doesn't get a lot of opportunities. Let's start the Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's right, he doesn't get a lot of opportunities. But
Speaker 4: then the other part of it is, you know, when
Speaker 4: he does get those opportunities, he's not always in the
Speaker 4: right position, and so then that makes it also kind
Speaker 4: of challenging. So you know, I think as a as
Speaker 4: a cornerback, you're on an island, right, and so you
Speaker 4: have to keep yourself in the game as much as possible.
Speaker 4: And there was some decisions that were made, whether it
Speaker 4: was his fault or safety fault, that kind of made
Speaker 4: it where he couldn't get those interceptions.
Speaker 1: I like the Cisco dynamic, and I wrote about this
Speaker 1: the other day that him and Sauce really big. Now
Speaker 1: Cisco is playing the ballhawking safety spot. But I think
Speaker 1: having him on one side is going to allow Cisco
Speaker 1: to be what he is, a natural ballhawk and take
Speaker 1: some chances on it.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4: You know, when you have that confidence on the other side,
Speaker 4: I think any safety is going to tell you like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I don't have to look at this side. I remember
Speaker 4: who was that play safety before. But they were speaking
Speaker 4: on revis and how you know, I don't really have
Speaker 4: to pay attention to that side as much, right I
Speaker 4: can kind of I can be rangy on this side,
Speaker 4: you know, and it allows me to make plays when
Speaker 4: I need to.
Speaker 1: What do you make of the other safety spot? You
Speaker 1: have Tony Adams, Isaiah Oliver is the kind of guy
Speaker 1: who can do it all right. He can play nickel four,
Speaker 1: he can play safety. Then you have Melchi Moore, a
Speaker 1: player the Jets are very high on. And I asked
Speaker 1: Cisco about him. He said, I really like his game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna be a good challenge. And I
Speaker 4: think you know, Tony Adams coming back. You know, he's
Speaker 4: the guy right now, right, so he's got it. He's
Speaker 4: got the target on his back, right He's the guy
Speaker 4: that's got the the the most experienced right now in
Speaker 4: terms of you know, this is my team. So you know,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be interesting to see who the team likes,
Speaker 4: you know, because ultimately, sometimes it's scheme fit. It's not
Speaker 4: always like are you the better players? Do you fit
Speaker 4: this scheme the best?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And the Jets definitely think that Malchi more fits that
Speaker 1: scheme because they traded up in order to get him.
Speaker 1: You at Aaron glenns Hawk in the branch about him,
Speaker 1: and he said, he's the dog. This guy can do
Speaker 1: it all. You know, he brings it from a cerebral perspective.
Speaker 1: He's also a physical dude who's not afraid. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: So we were talking before we started the pop what's
Speaker 1: it gonna look like in the defensive interior next.
Speaker 2: To Quinn Williams.
Speaker 1: Because you sign in free agency Derek Noddy, who most
Speaker 1: recently played with the Chiefs, Byron Coward, who not only
Speaker 1: played with the Bears last year, but the Bears defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator down in the season was Eric Washington. Eric Washington
Speaker 1: is the Jets defensive line coach. You got Mathis You
Speaker 1: picked him up on waivers. He's a monster of a guy.
Speaker 1: The previous regime picked him up last summer. Leonard Taylor
Speaker 1: still here. You also signed Jay to fully in free agency.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's I think that's one position where
Speaker 4: I didn't I wasn't sure whether or not they was
Speaker 4: going to try to draft somebody.
Speaker 2: So, you know, I think.
Speaker 1: Everybody was wondering that because the depth of class.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. You know, you had a lot of a
Speaker 4: lot of great talent, in the draft. So you know,
Speaker 4: I think that they if they decided not to pick
Speaker 4: anybody up, then I think you have to assume that
Speaker 4: they feel really confident about these guys. And this is
Speaker 4: a position that's you know, one of the most important,
Speaker 4: like the offensive line of the opposite side. Right, they
Speaker 4: got to get the pressure right, They got to make
Speaker 4: it where it's really challenging. So then the corners can
Speaker 4: play free, you know, when they know that, you know,
Speaker 4: there's getting a lot of pressure from their interior and
Speaker 4: the outside. You know, now I can play with a
Speaker 4: little bit more leniency.
Speaker 1: I wonder if Coward is a slight favorite going at
Speaker 1: But again, you're gonna split reps up. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: rotating guys. It's not like any of these guys, even
Speaker 1: if they won the job, it's gonna be playing seventy snaps.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think there is an understanding that if
Speaker 4: a coach brings a guy that he's going to like
Speaker 4: him a little bit more. But what I will say though,
Speaker 4: is that a lot of times some guys fall into
Speaker 4: that trap and think, well, you know another coach and
Speaker 4: I got a personal response, a personal relationship with him,
Speaker 4: like you know, it's.
Speaker 2: Set for me.
Speaker 4: So you know, as a player, you gotta be careful
Speaker 4: thinking that way. And you know, as a young guy,
Speaker 4: if you see that, you know you just got You
Speaker 4: just gotta play hard and you know, find your time.
Speaker 1: What do you make of Will McDonald's who played about
Speaker 1: two thirty five to thirty six last year, putting on
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds of muscle in all season.
Speaker 2: No, that's deep.
Speaker 4: I mean I think for him, I'm looking forward to
Speaker 4: see how he improves on last year, right, Like it
Speaker 4: was exciting to see Jermaine Johnson make the step and
Speaker 4: it was even more exciting to see Will McDonald because
Speaker 4: I think he was doubted even more, especially on his side,
Speaker 4: so to come out and get those sacks like he did.
Speaker 4: You know, I can't wait to see what he does
Speaker 4: with more weight on him right in a new defense. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, so that's gonna be him and Jermaine Johnson together,
Speaker 4: you know, giving that Jermaine comes back healthy, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be exciting.
Speaker 1: Ten and a half sacks last year. What are you
Speaker 1: making the number change for Will? Going to number nine?
Speaker 1: You like that?
Speaker 4: I mean, sometimes you gotta go back to your roots,
Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, you gotta go back to your roots
Speaker 4: and maybe that'll kind of bring The game is mental.
Speaker 4: A lot of it is mental. So if you can
Speaker 4: kind of put yourself back in that mind space where
Speaker 4: you were the most confident, you know, there's a reason
Speaker 4: why you were drafted at the position you were, and
Speaker 4: maybe it'll really take you to another level.
Speaker 1: And Will's gonna help or my member going to another
Speaker 1: level and we're gonna be able to watch that throughout
Speaker 1: training camp. Those guys with the pads on going toe
Speaker 1: to toe. You mentioned Jermaine before coming off to Achilles.
Speaker 1: That was a devastating injury for the defense that happened
Speaker 1: in week two last year. His mindset is unbelievable and
Speaker 1: he provides an element of a nastiness and he plays
Speaker 1: the game so passionately, and he's got a pretty unique
Speaker 1: skill set, as AG said, because he's athletic, but he
Speaker 1: also can you know, set that edge and he's a
Speaker 1: big dude. What do you think about him during camp
Speaker 1: because AG has been clear about that, Hey, he might
Speaker 1: start camp on the pup list, but he'll be ready
Speaker 1: in week one and he'll be teeing off trying to
Speaker 1: get Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we've seen now in the over the
Speaker 4: past few years a couple of guys on this team
Speaker 4: with the Achilles obviously, you know Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: And you have a v T as well.
Speaker 4: So av T was able to come back and play right,
Speaker 4: and so you know, those young guys have a better
Speaker 4: opportunity to bounce back. You know, I think av T
Speaker 4: was a little bit more protected being in an interior guy,
Speaker 4: whereas you know a guy like Jamain Johnson, he's more
Speaker 4: out in the edge. You know, there's no real protection
Speaker 4: so to say. But you know, I think it'll be
Speaker 4: up to him. It sounds like he's working hard, right
Speaker 4: The guy's documenting his recovery process, you know, and so
Speaker 4: whether it's pupp or right on active, as soon as
Speaker 4: he gets back, you know, I think he's going to
Speaker 4: be hungry.
Speaker 1: Rashad Weaver he played pretty well this spring. I mean
Speaker 1: he was popping again. No pads out there, and the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are protected. He had five and a half sacks
Speaker 1: with the Titans back in twenty twenty two, so we're
Speaker 1: not far removed from that. And the Jets also drafted
Speaker 1: Tyler Barron out of Miami late so we'll have to
Speaker 1: see what he can do in camp. Getting back to
Speaker 1: the cornerback position. When you talked about Stevens Michael Carter,
Speaker 1: what about a Z Thomas. Yeah, the physicality he brings
Speaker 1: to the table and also the size, because this has
Speaker 1: been an emphasis here for these guys like ag played
Speaker 1: at five nine said Hey, I want my cornerbacks big, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I mean I think that's I like that pick.
Speaker 4: You know, when I watch his film, he's a real
Speaker 4: physical guy. Re a lanky guy, right, a guy that
Speaker 4: will keep you right in front of you, and that
Speaker 4: disrupts timing right, Like a lot of times we always
Speaker 4: make fun of dbs whenever they you know, it's an incompletion,
Speaker 4: the balls thrown way out of the way and they
Speaker 4: do this like as if they made a big play.
Speaker 4: But ultimately the offensive side, it's all about timing. So
Speaker 4: if you can disrupt that timing, you can really disrupt
Speaker 4: the whole play, you know, So you're going to have
Speaker 4: those opportunities to celebrate. And so if he can do that,
Speaker 4: and I think that's what they're looking for him to do.
Speaker 4: I remember on his phone call the draft, they told
Speaker 4: him to be nasty or something like that, you know,
Speaker 4: really be, So, yeah, that's what they want him to be.
Speaker 1: And then a couple other guys who are going to
Speaker 1: try to make in roads here JBC Jerk, Bernard Converse,
Speaker 1: who I thought had a good camp last year, and
Speaker 1: then Quantest Stake mays we should not forget about him
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a guy that can also play special teams.
Speaker 4: He did a little bit of it last year. But yeah,
Speaker 4: another physical corner. So that's where they're going. That's the
Speaker 4: type of guy that they're looking for. So you know,
Speaker 4: it'll be good to kind of watch that battle all right.
Speaker 1: Before we get to Steve Wilkes, what about the marrying
Speaker 1: of philosophies. You mentioned it before, got Aaron Glenn who
Speaker 1: might have operated or called it a little bit differently
Speaker 1: than Wilkes. What do you think when you put their
Speaker 1: heads together and what we're ultimately going to see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're gonn to see a good marriage
Speaker 4: of the two defenses, right, and I think there's gonna
Speaker 4: be a lot of similarities, right, and so for the
Speaker 4: terminology would be the toughest thing, you know, coming from
Speaker 4: one defense and now this's a new one. But I
Speaker 4: think it's going to still be aggressive. You know, I
Speaker 4: think they're still going to find ways to make plays
Speaker 4: and find ways to make it cohesive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again stopping to run, taking the football away,
Speaker 1: and these are two things that you go back. Wilkes
Speaker 1: has had tremendous success getting to the quarterback and we
Speaker 1: saw that from Detroit as far as their rise is concerned.
Speaker 1: Obviously to draft Hutchinson and that changed the dynamic, but
Speaker 1: ag stayed true to what he wanted even with the injury. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like last year, it was impressive
Speaker 1: what Aaron did last year in Detroit. So I ultimately
Speaker 1: think defensively could be very much the Jets could be
Speaker 1: very much help by what's gonna happen on offense, because
Speaker 1: I think an ideal, an ideal situation, the Jets are
Speaker 1: holding onto the ball because they're grinding on teams with
Speaker 1: the run game, they're pounding the rock. That means time
Speaker 1: of possession. That means the guys are not on the
Speaker 1: field as much. Because you're going from a philosophy offensively
Speaker 1: to hey, we're gonna throw the ball a lot to
Speaker 1: more balance, and when you have more balance, I think
Speaker 1: ultimately is gonna help the guys on the other side
Speaker 1: the ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, balance is the key word there because last year
Speaker 4: there wasn't a lot of balance offense, defense or a
Speaker 4: special team. So I think that's what they're looking for.
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Speaker 1: All right, it's time for my extra point. Aaron Glenn
Speaker 1: and Steve Wilks are going to challenge this Jets defense,
Speaker 1: which has pro bowlers at every level, to find another gear.
Speaker 1: You know, the Jets will field a very fast unit
Speaker 1: and that is something you can't coach. Glenn and Wilkes
Speaker 1: are going to demand that they have a good tackling
Speaker 1: group who takes the ball away. Elite defenses pillage, and
Speaker 1: we're going to hear more about play style than playbook.
Speaker 1: My defensive takeaway is the Jets are going to mass
Speaker 1: more takeaways in twenty twenty five. So long until next time.