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Speaker 1: Good mornings, sweat Wirl and Welcome to the Nodunks podcast

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Speaker 1: In Game four, Yeah, well, Tray's right though. The Lakers

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Speaker 5: a very impressive game. The Nuggets really wanted it out there,

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Speaker 4: Another cliche is the Sixers could could use that guy,

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Speaker 4: one of their former players, Jeremy Grant, It's been set

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Speaker 4: taken advantage of it big time. I love the Superstar

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Speaker 1: Was are you hungry.

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Speaker 4: For a run?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I was waiting something. Yeah, that's true. Always always, That's

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Speaker 4: what Danielle. I'm gonna get upstairs after this, and Daniel's

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Speaker 4: I mean always irritable after the show. I'm a hungry boy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's what I'm talking about. Jeremy Grant sandwich che he was.

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Speaker 4: He was so good here was really.

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Speaker 3: It's the consistency with him because you don't expect him

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an interesting the di lamma for coach

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Speaker 3: That's frustrating for coach. But he's a young guy. He'll

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Speaker 4: But sometimes those shots go in. He's a big fourth

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Speaker 3: Sometimes they do go in, but it's more just the

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Speaker 1: Well, he's out playing Kuzma right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kuzman struggled last night, for sure, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: As we saw there in that fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Almost almost gave it. What again, got close to three

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Speaker 4: They think it's over. That's the problem. Sometimes I think

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Speaker 4: a tiny bit of the Clipper in the Jazz where

430
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Speaker 4: they just stop playing.

431
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Speaker 1: The energy an effort goes, and I think you saw that,

432
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Speaker 1: especially like you pointed out tasks, Like the first thing

433
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Speaker 1: that goes when you have no energy is like, well

434
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Speaker 1: you stop boxing out and stop gang rebounding and like

435
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Speaker 1: hitting the glass and they just got pummeled. I mean

436
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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis with two how many Dwoyd have one.

437
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Speaker 4: Rebound?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like these are there, big guys and

439
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Speaker 1: like not getting it really anything off the glass. You're right,

440
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Speaker 1: that's that's a big part of effort, no doubt, and

441
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Speaker 1: credit to the Nuggets were wanting it a little bit

442
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Speaker 1: more and the Lakers from maybe being checked out.

443
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Speaker 5: You gotta beat the Nuggets, that's the main thing. Right

444
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Speaker 5: that we've found out through the playoffs, they're not going

445
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Speaker 5: to roll over and just be beaten. It would be

446
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Speaker 5: easy to say you lost game one pretty handily. It

447
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 5: was a crushing game to defeat, losing on a last

448
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Speaker 5: second shot, but they came out and they played hard.

449
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Speaker 5: You can't just expect the Nuggets to roll over at

450
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Speaker 5: this point, especially considering the Lakers don't really have an

451
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Speaker 5: answer right now for Jamal Murray or Nicola Jokic. When

452
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Speaker 5: both stars are able to play well, then it's just

453
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Speaker 5: a matter of getting some decent performances from the role

454
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Speaker 5: players and you're in the game. Yeah, what did you

455
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Speaker 5: just think of Leo story with you Lebron's last couple

456
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Speaker 5: of games here?

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Speaker 1: Well, what's going on with Lebron? Is he just trying

458
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Speaker 1: to coast a little bit right now into possibly the

459
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Speaker 1: finals where he can ramp it up a little bit again?

460
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Speaker 1: Is it something else and I'm missing?

461
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Speaker 3: What do you think He looked gassed at the end

462
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 3: of the game there last night in the fourth quarter

463
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Speaker 3: a couple of times he sort of had his hands

464
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Speaker 3: on his knees and it was like, man, he looks exhausted.

465
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Speaker 3: And now in that fourth quarter when they to get

466
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Speaker 3: things going. He hit that three, and then he hit

467
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Speaker 3: a couple of mid ranges as well, and it was

468
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Speaker 3: almost like Lebron sort of was looking around, going, I

469
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Speaker 3: don't really think I should have to do this anymore,

470
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Speaker 3: but I'm going to have to because no one else

471
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Speaker 3: is really performed tonight. But he drove inside a couple

472
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Speaker 3: of times and he dragged his team back into contention.

473
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Speaker 3: But I think it also took a toll on him.

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Speaker 3: And again, he's just like, we need to have Anthony

475
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Speaker 3: Davis as a guy who should have taken over. Now.

476
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Speaker 3: He was good for most of the game, but he

477
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Speaker 3: needs to get those other contributions from guys.

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Speaker 1: And it just sort of.

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Speaker 3: Looks to me that Lebron the workload is a little

480
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Speaker 3: bit heavy for him right now. That's what I thought,

481
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Speaker 3: because he had a bit of a rough game. He

482
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Speaker 3: got whacked by Jamal Murray. He got whacked by someone

483
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Speaker 3: else as well later on, so he got a few

484
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Speaker 3: hits to the jaws.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when he got when he got whacked by Jamal Murray,

486
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Speaker 4: that flagrant one was well, he got hit.

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Speaker 1: He definitely got hit.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he emphasized, I just want to tell the

489
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Speaker 4: story that the only moment Danielle looked up to the

490
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Speaker 4: television during this game was the replace of Lebron getting hit.

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Speaker 4: She said, whoa exaggeration, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: A little bit, a little bit, But listen, Murray's elbow

493
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Speaker 3: got him. There's no doubt he connected, and that is

494
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Speaker 3: a flagrant one for based on the way they call

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Speaker 3: it these days. There was no intention there, I don't

496
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Speaker 3: think from Murray. It was more just because Lebron kind

497
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Speaker 3: of lifts his arms up and then he tries to

498
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Speaker 3: sort of shrug away from it and he connects him.

499
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Speaker 3: But anyway, I didn't have an issue with that because

500
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Speaker 3: they call that all the time, so they're consistent. But

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Speaker 3: I just looked at Lebron in our fourth quarter and

502
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Speaker 3: the look on his face was just like, I'm exhausted

503
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Speaker 3: out here. And he's thirty five years old. He's going

504
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Speaker 3: to be thirty six in a month or two, so

505
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Speaker 3: you know, at some point it is going to catch

506
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Speaker 3: up with him, especially if he has to do all

507
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Speaker 3: those things and those mid range. A couple of those

508
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Speaker 3: mid ranges. I thought he was there and he was

509
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Speaker 3: looking around just going like all right, I mean, okay,

510
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna shoot it, then that's it, and there

511
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 3: was no flow to that offense. There was no ball movement.

512
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Speaker 3: Now whose folder is that? Is that the coach is

513
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Speaker 3: at the players? Is it the leaders? I'm not sure,

514
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Speaker 3: but it just sort of looked to me like Lebron

515
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: was like, all right, it's up to me again to

516
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Speaker 3: do this, and he nearly did it. He nearly nearly

517
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Speaker 3: did it. But that's not how the Lakers want to play,

518
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 3: certainly not how Lebron wants to have to play to

519
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 3: win games. In my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I believe that Lebron is getting tired.

522
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Speaker 5: We saw him get like four straight transition buckets there

523
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Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter after everybody was saying, this guy

524
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Speaker 5: is washed, he's too old, and then it was like

525
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Speaker 5: he's the fastest guy on the court again. Yeah, he

526
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Speaker 5: got tired after that, but it's it's tiring to come

527
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Speaker 5: back from twenty points in six minutes, you know. I

528
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Speaker 5: do think it maybe is more just a factor of

529
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Speaker 5: I don't want to have to be the only guy

530
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Speaker 5: doing this out here, and I can see that being

531
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Speaker 5: the case. That's been the case for Lebron before, where

532
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Speaker 5: he's passing the ball trying to get everybody else involved.

533
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Speaker 5: But he's had two subpar games despite the number being

534
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Speaker 5: all right, So you would have to imagine a Game

535
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Speaker 5: four from Lebron is going to be a classic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought game three was a lot better than

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Speaker 4: Game two. And his numbers, I don't even want to

538
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Speaker 4: say them because it's hilarious to say that he had

539
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 4: a bad game, going fourteen of twenty three. That's pretty

540
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 4: good percent sixty percent from the floor going thirty eleven

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Speaker 4: and ten. I mean he turned the ball over a

542
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Speaker 4: little too much for sure, And yeah, he was not

543
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 4: he was not full throttle the entire game. His legs

544
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 4: looked a little dead, but at times he was picking

545
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Speaker 4: his spots and he was out running the Nuggets. And

546
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Speaker 4: it is hard, yeah, to come back from that big

547
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: a deficit. And in the end, in the fourth quarter,

548
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 4: that a quarter that he played every single minute, they

549
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Speaker 4: were plus ten. They won that quarter by a lot.

550
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Speaker 4: But he wants other people to step up like he

551
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 4: did for his older guys. You know, when he was

552
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Speaker 4: a Cleveland Cavalier and carrying the team at all times.

553
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 4: He needed guys to step up in that first half

554
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Speaker 4: a little bit, and you know they kind of disappointed.

555
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 4: You know, rush On Rondo said after Game one and

556
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 4: game two, he said, that's why Lebron brought me in

557
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 4: when when he played really well and have a great

558
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 4: pass to Jokic, Lebron also brought you in to play

559
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 4: tough defense and to play hard. And so the guys

560
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 4: that Lebron brought in GM Lebron, as Rondo is calling

561
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 4: him and everybody else calls him. You know, they kind

562
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 4: of failed Lebron in a way. They just they weren't

563
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Speaker 4: up to the task, especially in that second quarter. It

564
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 4: was a whiff fest in that the first few minutes,

565
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Speaker 4: it was horrendous. They lost the first three minutes and

566
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Speaker 4: eight seconds of that second quarter by thirteen points. The

567
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 4: CARU show Morris cu'z, Morondo and him lineup and so,

568
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Speaker 4: I don't know, I think he can be better. And

569
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Speaker 4: he expected Anthony Davis to be better in this game.

570
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Speaker 4: Nobody was hustling on his team, and they just decided

571
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Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter, oh yeah, we got to come

572
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 4: back and they got to bring the intensity from the

573
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 4: get go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, kil Mode Lebron blocks that Grant layup in transition.

575
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: That's what I noticed it was like he destroys that

576
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: and just pins that on the glass like we see

577
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: him do time after time. He didn't actually really come

578
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Speaker 1: a lot closely. I don't know if he thought Ad

579
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: was gonna do it or what, but yeah, he did

580
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: look a little gass even there at that particular moment

581
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: in the game. And then you're right, got him back

582
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: in it with Rondo then getting a little more aggressive.

583
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Speaker 1: The whistle was swallowed a little bit. They got all

584
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: the turnovers, but then they came up a little bit short. Yeah,

585
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Speaker 1: I'm sure Lebron will be fine. And as you guys

586
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: have pointed out, still a monster game just comes in

587
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: a loss, and it's just like he's a yeah, maybe

588
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: he's like it appears to be he's trying to pick

589
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Speaker 1: his spots here and I'm with you, Lee. At other

590
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: times he's like, what do we do? All Right, I

591
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: guess I'll go here, let me have I mean, especially

592
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Speaker 1: on a night where eighty doesn't have it going so

593
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: for the most part, so yeah, we will see. This

594
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Speaker 1: is great, though, is what we want. We wanted the

595
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Speaker 1: Nuggets to win because we think Celtics heat's gonna go long.

596
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: I think we all still agree with that. You know,

597
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: six or seven. We don't want this ending in four.

598
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: We don't want this even ending in five. If we can,

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Speaker 1: let's say, stretches out Lee your Nuggets and six still

600
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 1: technicals alive, still alive? Yeah? Absolutely? Do you think Lebron

601
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: One more thing about him? Is he doing Taco Tuesday

602
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: down in the bubble?

603
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 5: He had a Taco Tuesday clip earlier in the bubble,

604
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 5: maybe even during the seating games. Yeah, you know they're

605
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 5: readily available. You know you can get it easily in

606
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 5: Orlando for sure, but it has another national taco shortage.

607
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Speaker 1: Lebron usually goes, you know once he called it zero

608
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: dark thirty right with social media during the playoffs? Has

609
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: been doing that? Is that affecting him? Is he looking

610
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: at his screen too much? I'd love to check his

611
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: screen time. I'd like to get my hands on his phone.

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Speaker 1: See compare it to last year. I was quite high.

613
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: It's up three hundred percent. I'm sure. All right, So

614
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: great great game there from the Nuggets. You know, not

615
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: only Jokich Murray closing deal and twelve assists from that,

616
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: he was a damn awesome point guard last night. That

617
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: was the other part. It wasn't just like, oh yeah,

618
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: crazy Murray shots. He was setting guys up, and it

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Speaker 1: helped those guys hit shots. Grant and Morris like you,

620
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: guys went through the roster.

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Speaker 4: There.

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626
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the up down report.

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Speaker 4: We got some.

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Speaker 1: Fun, fun topics here to throw some thumbs on, thumbs

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Speaker 1: off or thumbs down. Let's see you guys do the

652
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Speaker 1: same in the YouTube chats or on Twitter at no

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Speaker 1: dunk saying first one. The Chicago Bulls have hired former

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Speaker 1: Thunder coach Billy Donovan as their new head coach. According

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Speaker 1: to reports, the Bulls front office aggressively pursued Donovan, selling

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Speaker 1: him on a partnership and vision for this talented young

657
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: Bulls roster. I don't need to remind Trey, but the

658
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 1: Bulls have spent the last three years in the lottery,

659
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Speaker 1: they finished seven games back of the Magic in the race.

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Speaker 1: I throw that in air quotes for the eighth in

661
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: the East this season. So Trey will start with you.

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Speaker 1: It's your team. Maybe. Are you up and down on

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Speaker 1: the Bulls hiring former OKC head coach Billy Donovan. I

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Speaker 1: am so.

665
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Speaker 4: Up on this.

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Speaker 1: I am shockingly up on this. The fact that it

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Speaker 1: even happened.

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Speaker 3: Wow, what a mind blowing thing.

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Speaker 5: That the Chicago Bulls would not cheap out on a

670
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Speaker 5: coach here, they actually hired a coach who people have

671
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 5: heard of before. I mean, it would have been nice.

672
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 5: Maybe Ime Udoko would be a great coach. Yep, maybe

673
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 5: Wes Unsell Junior would be a great coach. But this

674
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 5: is the first coach the Bulls have hired since Scott

675
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 5: Skiles that has previous head coaching experience, and I think

676
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 5: it's huge. I think it's huge to no longer be

677
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 5: a joke in the NBA. The Bulls are winning the

678
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 5: offseason and it's not even the offseason yet. Think about

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00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: how the season ended for the Bulls. They didn't make

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00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 5: it to the bubble in the season where they said

681
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 5: they were going to make the playoffs, they had Garpacks

682
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 5: and Jim Boyling as their as their brain trust. Now

683
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 5: we're into the conference finals and you got Urturist, Karnisiovus,

684
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Speaker 5: Mark Eversley, and Billy Donovan. Things are trending the right way.

685
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Speaker 5: Is Billy Donovan a good coach? We literally have no

686
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 5: idea On offense, it's been give it to the superstar.

687
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 5: They will figure it out. But on defense, the guy's

688
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 5: been versatile and his defenses have always been good. We've

689
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 5: seen in this year's playoffs that that's really important to

690
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 5: have defenses who can play a bunch of different ways,

691
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 5: and the Thunder did that. They were more of a

692
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 5: trapping team when Paul George and Russell Westbrook were around,

693
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 5: and this year they played a little bit more of

694
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 5: a conservative scheme with Chris Paul as their point guard

695
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 5: and some other less impactful defenders, but they were still

696
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 5: a top ten defense. I'm impressed.

697
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Speaker 1: Next step is.

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Speaker 5: Bringing back Joe a Quem Noah, and this is why

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00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 5: I am the most excited. Obviously, Billy Donovan and joe

700
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Speaker 5: Quem Noah have a pre existing relationship from college. They

701
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 5: want a couple of titles. Joaquim Noah is going to

702
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 5: be available for the veteran minimum. Bring him in, literally,

703
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 5: bring him in so that he can teach these young

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Speaker 5: Bulls how to play winning basketball.

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Speaker 1: The balls are Oh god, Tray is pumped up. You

706
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: know who's also pumped up by all reports, Zach Levine.

707
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: You know he said goal that'll be good. Now you

708
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: can say that sarcastically, actually, wow, that'll be good, or

709
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: you can say it, wow, that'll be good with Billy

710
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Speaker 1: Donovan in there. I think it is the latter. He's

711
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Speaker 1: pretty pumped up.

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Speaker 4: Task.

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Speaker 1: What do you think Billy Donovan taking over the Bulls

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Speaker 1: head coaching job?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think Zach Lavine's reaction while he was gaming.

716
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 4: It literally happened live while while he was playing on

717
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 4: a video game. And you know, the reporters of the

718
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: Bulls know that Zack Lavine doesn't necessarily get super amped,

719
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 4: so when he did say wow, it was genuine. He

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00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: was pumped. As Trey said about whether or not Billy

721
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Speaker 4: Donovan is a good coach, Billy Donovan's a name. It's

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00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 4: better than their non name, I guess. But when it

723
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Speaker 4: comes down to making these guys who have a lot

724
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Speaker 4: of potential on their roster your lowry marketin's your Kobe Whites,

725
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: a lot of good guys. Is he going to make

726
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 4: them better? Is he going to get the most out

727
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Speaker 4: of them? I thought Kenny Atkinson would have been a

728
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Speaker 4: good fit for that, but maybe Billy Donovan could do

729
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Speaker 4: it too. It is something that they didn't cheap out on,

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Speaker 4: which is surprising. Yeah, the most notorious thing that they've

731
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 4: done in the front office are firings the last fifteen years.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing that they can put up on top

733
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Speaker 4: of the list and they replace them with Carnachiavus and

734
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Speaker 4: Mark Eversley. And you got to expect Billy Donovan to

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Speaker 4: do a good job because it seems like he's a

736
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Speaker 4: good coach. There will be I think a lot of

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Speaker 4: Fred Hoiberg comparisons if things don't go well, But it's

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that all that experience and Okay, see, even

739
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 4: though he started with Katie and Russ and had a

740
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 4: lot of superstardom and then this year was a little

741
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 4: different with Chris Paul and they did excel a lot.

742
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Speaker 4: I'm sure that's helped. I'm sure that that will be

743
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Speaker 4: anti Fred Hoiberg because he's coming in with some NBA experience,

744
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Speaker 4: So it's gonna be on the floor where it's all proven.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah, but it is interesting. Hey, coach, we're

746
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: gonna take away all your all NBA players. Now, let's

747
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: see what you can do, because that's what he's gonna

748
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: have here in Chicago. But young talent, no doubt. I'd

749
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: add Wendell Carter Junior to the mix. Like you were saying,

750
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: they're tasked with Larry Markinen and Kobe White. Maybe they

751
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: can stay healthy. That would be a great start for

752
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: the Bulls too, so they can actually have some of

753
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: these guys out on the floor. Are they a playoff team? Lee?

754
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: You think next year Chicago Bulls?

755
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I mean, let's just wait

756
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 3: and see what happens in free agency and draft, because

757
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: maybe they can find someone there. But that's the thing

758
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 3: with Billy Donovan, he kind of left, okay, see because

759
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Speaker 3: I think he looked at the heading into a sort

760
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: of rebuild. If you assume Chris Paul won't be there,

761
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Speaker 3: and maybe one or two of those other veterans Gallinari

762
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Speaker 3: and maybe Steven Adams, He's going to a situation where

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00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: they're in a similar position right now, Chicago. They have

764
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: some talent, for sure, but some of these guys haven't

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Speaker 3: been able to stay on the floor and we just

766
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: don't know quite what the ceiling is for someone like

767
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: a Wendell Carter or a Lowry Marknan and Zach Lavine

768
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: as well. I mean, he's a good scorer, but there's

769
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Speaker 3: so there's some pieces there, but it's not a completely

770
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: different scenario that he was probably facing there and okay, see,

771
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: but it's a different situation and so maybe he can

772
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Speaker 3: get something out of him. It's going to be a

773
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: big test for him because he has to, you know,

774
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: he has to get these guys to perform to a

775
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: higher level than they've played at before. But it's not

776
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 3: Jim Boylan.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I was going to say this might be

778
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: the ultimate addition by subtraction exactly.

779
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: It's one of those like it just feels good to

780
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: have a guy who you think is actually going to

781
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: get some results out of these guys. Whether they're going

782
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 3: to be like a playoff team or not, I'm not sure,

783
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: but it just sort of feels like there's going to

784
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 3: be a little bit more accountability, a bit more stability,

785
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 3: and a bit more hope at least with the Bulls

786
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 3: because oh, Jimmy just things were just crazy there.

787
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Speaker 1: And you know, do you think they take down the

788
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: punch Clark.

789
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Speaker 3: No, No, going to keep that in. There's a little

790
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: tribute there to it, Jim Boiler.

791
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: But no, So I'm not sure.

792
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Speaker 3: I'm really not sure because you know, we talk a

793
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: lot about you know, is a coach, How important is

794
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: a coach? Well, it's come to get it down to

795
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: the talent of his players. But can he communicate to

796
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 3: him can he get these guys to reach the potential

797
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 3: that we see in those players, because I mean, when

798
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: was the last time many one saw Wendell Carter or

799
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 3: Larry Mark and they did even play. Honestly, like, it

800
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: feels like it was like two years ago now because

801
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: it's been so long and they've been injured. But again,

802
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: I was watching them in March. Was was marketing and

803
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 3: still playing. I thought marketing was out of In Wendel

804
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: Carter's rookie season, I remember thinking like, this guy is

805
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 3: like a Tyson Chandler type of guy. I can block shots,

806
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: he can catch those oops, he can be impactful. But

807
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: it just feels like so long since we've seen these

808
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: guys play.

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Speaker 1: Trey and I had the balls making the playoffs play

810
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: boiling for cultures a year. I mean I was all in.

811
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Speaker 1: I love Kolby Waite, who looks amazing one year and

812
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: he looks like garbage when you get hit one. I mean, yeah,

813
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: I was all in on the balls.

814
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 3: I mean, it's Koby White more than just an upgrade

815
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 3: on Nick Young. You know a guy who can shoot

816
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: but doesn't really do much yet.

817
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, is he or is he? Or

818
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: is he more guy.

819
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: Who's like, Hey, this guy is actually a reliable guy,

820
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: can get you five or six threes a note and

821
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: played defense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he could do that, then the something there.

823
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 3: But if if it's it's no good in shooting eight

824
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 3: threes if the opponents are shooting out at the other end.

825
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Speaker 1: So are we gonna see what Donovan did in Okay?

826
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Speaker 1: See you? With these three guard lineups, are we going

827
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: to see a lot of you know, White Sataranski and uh.

828
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Speaker 5: Get him out of here, Derek Rose as well, geez

829
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 5: no here. Al Horford is now a trade target. Corey

830
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 5: Brewer is going to be in the mix. They're gonna

831
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 5: get Tory and Green out of retirement. Uh, you can

832
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 5: lock the Bulls in for a playoff spot. You can

833
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 5: lock Zack Lavine in for an All Star spot.

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Speaker 1: Lee. The Bulls are on a winning streak.

835
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Speaker 5: They won their last game March tenth over the Calves,

836
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 5: marking It and Carter both in the lineup.

837
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Speaker 4: Wow, this has been a great hand down.

838
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 5: It for the not all the trash out and they're

839
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 5: bringing in people you've heard.

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Speaker 3: I will I will say like I said Larry Mark,

841
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: and I think I think he's a very talented player,

842
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: and I hope someone like Donovan can really get that

843
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: out of him and become I'm not gonna say the

844
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 3: big D word Dirk, but you know, like a guy

845
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: who can shoot and play defense and is a tough

846
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 3: matchup because he's big at what is he seven feet

847
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: and he's got that nice shot when it goes in.

848
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: But it's just the Bulls have been a mess for

849
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 3: so long.

850
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 4: What's the lot days when it goes yeah, yeah.

851
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 3: But the Bulls, I mean, you know, they've just been

852
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: such a chaotic franchise for the last few years. Like Billy,

853
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: Donovan can't just kind of all of a sudden make

854
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: them like competent immediately. It's going to take a little

855
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: bit of time, but fingers crossed that maybe things are brighter,

856
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: brighter days ahead for the Bulls.

857
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: And when you look at like their possibility, their chances

858
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: of making the playoffs next year, because you start looking

859
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: at teams, right, and you're like, well, okay, that team

860
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: are they're going to be there. Yeah, they're probably gonna

861
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: still be there. They're going to be there. They're gonna

862
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: be there. It's like, who is dropping out of those

863
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: topic spots and ain't gonna be the nets? That's really

864
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: unlikely you, I guess you're looking at the magic right,

865
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean, because what do you think Bucks, Raptors, Celtics, Pacers,

866
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: Heat sixers, and then Nets. Like I said, I mean,

867
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: I don't think any of those seven teams maybe if

868
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: someone injury happens to one of them, So yeah, there's

869
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: a slot there. So it'll be tough, it's not a given.

870
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 1: And then you got the Wizards, you know, in theory

871
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: getting better if John Wall comes back, Hawks could be

872
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: better with all their youth. Yeah, it's gonna be very

873
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: very difficult, but they gotta be They gotta be in

874
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: a gotta keep their guys healthy. That is a huge part.

875
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: Just have these guys play together for crying out loud,

876
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: for a good chunk of games and months here and

877
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: then maybe make a push there for the eight seed Trey.

878
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm back on board, baby. Don't you worry out there.

879
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 5: We got only one team. Only one of those teams

880
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 5: that you mentioned just signed a reigning coach of the Year. Wow,

881
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 5: you're saying coach co coach, co coach of the year

882
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 5: an the Golden Globes addition, no doubt about it, But Lee,

883
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 5: you gotta admit literally hiring Billy Donovan turns around the

884
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 5: franchise instantly because Jim Boylan is not there anymore. There's

885
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 5: no way that any potential free agent would look at

886
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 5: Theicago Balls with guar packs and boiling there and say, yep,

887
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 5: that's who I want to play. Just the idea that

888
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 5: Billy Donovan his back is or is in the in

889
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 5: the coaching spot is image rehab right away.

890
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: Just having a competent guy there.

891
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 3: And they brought in Mark Eversley as well, who apparently

892
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: has a very good reputation and kitusally talked about there.

893
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: But there's that one little shadow that still looks in

894
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: the franchise and at his Packs. He's still there. He's

895
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 3: still there, still there, didn't gonna mention in the press room.

896
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 4: No, it's huge.

897
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: That was also a win for the balls. That's good

898
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: right now.

899
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,479
Speaker 5: As long as they don't have to play games, I'm

900
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 5: always on the balls. This is exactly how I felt

901
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 5: in October twenty nineteen.

902
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: I'm my call, they got it, they got it.

903
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 5: Come on as soon as the ball tips, I'm ready

904
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 5: to be disappointed. But right now I'm loving this long

905
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 5: layoff because it's all good.

906
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: I think the Bulls have at least read the room,

907
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: and it's like, just keep Packs his name out of it.

908
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: Just don't say anything. He can still be here. Just

909
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: don't say his name because that that what just is

910
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: still there. As long as he's still there. You know,

911
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 3: he's got the year of Yinstorf there. That's that's dangerous.

912
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: But Kandischevis has got his coach, he's got his assistant

913
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: GM there. And now what do they pick seventh in

914
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 3: the draft? I think they usually do. Yeah, so they're fourth, right, yeah,

915
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 3: the fourth, that's right. Yeah, So you know, there's still

916
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: some positive still to come out of this season. I

917
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: don't know who they're going to get me in that

918
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 3: number four spot. But at least the Bulls should have

919
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: a better season than they had last season.

920
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 4: Good luck, good luck to the Bulls. I don't think

921
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 4: they're doing anything in free agency because they're basically locked

922
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 4: up with everybody. One guy he didn't mention who doesn't play.

923
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: They'd be locked up. How can they possibly be.

924
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 4: Because they're paying Oddo Porter twenty eight and a half

925
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 4: mill and I still believe in I'm pretty sure he's

926
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 4: going to take that player option. I think he's their

927
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 4: highest paid player. And then Zach Lavine, Fatty's, Sun Sataranski, Felicio,

928
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: They're all getting paid, so they're approximately this is just

929
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: an estimate, but they got like one hundred nineteen mil

930
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 4: locked up. So this is going to be on Billy

931
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: oh Uh to make these guys work. And Zack Lavine,

932
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 4: we saw him last year get very angry at Jim Boyling.

933
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 4: He didn't like him. He wanted more superstar sort of

934
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 4: role on that team. And Billy Donovan if you read

935
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 4: his history, if you look at his history, he gave

936
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: that to Kennadera, and he gave that to Chris paul

937
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 4: Is that is and Russell and Russell Westbrook in between there.

938
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 4: That's right. If he gets that, Zach Levine gets that,

939
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: is he going to be an accountable start? Is he

940
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: going to lead this team in a good way?

941
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Uh?

942
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 4: I mean he did have a lot of the rains,

943
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: but I don't know, no player development and alongside Zach

944
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: Lavine like an auto porter, you know, is on a

945
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 4: porter gonna come along and take this team to the playoffs?

946
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: We shall see. There's there's a lot of talent, but

947
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 4: that's the the issue with a lot of potential. I

948
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 4: don't want to say the P word, but I'll say it.

949
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: It's potential. It's not it's not necessarily productive potential. You know,

950
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 4: these guys all have to come out and get better,

951
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 4: and uh it's it's going to be up to Billy

952
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 4: Doe's staff to do that.

953
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: We will see, all right, next one here, this is

954
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: sort of bad news for NBA fans, but they are

955
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: likely won't be any Christmas Day basketball games this year.

956
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: Commissioner Adam Silver told CNN I guess it was Bob

957
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: Costas on CNN on Tuesday that the goal for twenty

958
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one season is to play a standard season,

959
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: and he believes it would be better off getting into

960
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: January for the tip. So there had been talk that

961
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: next season could tip off as early as Christmas Day,

962
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: but there's been speculation that could start later, maybe like

963
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: a Martin Luther King Junior Day on January eighteenth, or

964
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: even you know, they're still talk of it starting in

965
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: March and then maybe going through October. So I'll ask

966
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: you this way, task you can go first. Are you

967
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: up and down on the likelihood the chances of starting

968
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: next NBA season on MLK Day, let's say mid January?

969
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: There that January eighteenth date. What do you think? Up

970
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: or down?

971
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 4: I'm down on locking down a date. There's just no

972
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 4: point just push it back and say we don't know,

973
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: because that's the honest truth, and continuing to throw out

974
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 4: these dates, it's sort of pointless. And there's still an

975
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 4: issue here in the US of A. Cases for coronavirus

976
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 4: are on the rise again, and it's going to get

977
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: cold and people are going to get indoors and then

978
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 4: I'm not a scientist, but the cases are going to

979
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: go up, even more so in poorly ventilated areas. Instead

980
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 4: of people being outside like we've all been, like I've

981
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 4: been jogging around these last few months, and so there's

982
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 4: really no point in saying, hey, we're going to start

983
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 4: on Martin Luther King Day. We know or we assume

984
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 4: that they're not doing a bubble next season. It's highly

985
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 4: highly unlikely with teams flying around. This isn't the same

986
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 4: sort of scenario where there was a hiatus and they

987
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: were able to finish the season with some seeding games

988
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 4: in a playoffs. This is a whole season we're talking about.

989
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 4: I think they can push it back, and I think

990
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 4: there's no point in trying to nail down a date

991
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: right now. I'm sure they want fans in the stance.

992
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: That's definitely a priority, and fans an indoor arena. It's

993
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 4: unless it's a campaign rally, which shouldn't be happening right now.

994
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: That's not happening in the US, and so it shouldn't

995
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 4: be even contemplator right now. I think, just just chill

996
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 4: MLK Day. Yeah, of course, it's a good business decision

997
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 4: to have on a holiday all your games on the

998
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 4: first day, and it's not necessarily doing anything for civil rights.

999
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 4: I mean, it really would be a business decision. I say,

1000
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 4: just just chill, just chill. We don't need to know

1001
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 4: they can push it back, and the NBA has shown

1002
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 4: they're very good and very adaptable, and if it's March

1003
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 4: to November, there's other issues. Right now, I think we

1004
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 4: can chill on the I thinking about.

1005
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: A date, Okay, but maybe thumb's up. Then Tasks on

1006
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: at least Silver is saying this is not happening on Christmas,

1007
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: basically saying, look, you're not going to see next season

1008
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: starting this calendar year. You know it will likely likely

1009
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: be sometime in twenty twenty one. Yeah, I agree with that.

1010
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 1: What do you think, Trey?

1011
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like it's not going to happen this year,

1012
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 5: which the only question then for me, because like task

1013
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 5: is saying, who knows when they're actually going to start

1014
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 5: up the twenty twenty one NBA season. Maybe it will

1015
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 5: be in all twenty one season starting in March, but yeah,

1016
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 5: it seems unlikely that we will ever get back to

1017
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 5: the standard October through June schedule because the league apparently

1018
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 5: still wants to play eighty two games for next season,

1019
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 5: as you expect. So if that's the case and you

1020
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 5: start in even February, you're talking about a six month

1021
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 5: season that ends in what August this ish and maybe September,

1022
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 5: and then you're not going to start the next season

1023
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 5: in October, so we might be looking at a completely

1024
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 5: different schedule for the rest of our lives here.

1025
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would throw into that too. I saw Tim

1026
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: Reynolds tweeting about it. Let's not forget about the Olympics too,

1027
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: and maybe complications that arise with that if you start

1028
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: the season in March and it goes later and then

1029
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: the Olympics actually do happen, you know, sometime in the summer,

1030
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: our NBA player is just gonna not go. Is there

1031
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: any sort of hiatus that happens like they've done before

1032
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: in the NHL. That's just another little wrinkle. It's not

1033
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: that important, I'll agree, but it's still there to be

1034
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: decided on.

1035
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 3: What do you think, Lee, Yeah, it's just so hard

1036
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 3: to know what the next six months in the world

1037
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 3: looks like. Really for me, you know, to have fans

1038
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 3: indoors in stadiums, everyone sort of touching things again just

1039
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like the right thing for me. Focus would

1040
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: clearly be on just trying to get the league back

1041
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: in some format, whatever that is, and then when it

1042
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: becomes safe again, then we can maybe start allowing fans

1043
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: to come in, but I know that.

1044
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: They're hoping on rapid testing exactly, yes, And I understand.

1045
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 3: From a financial point of view they want fans back.

1046
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: That's clear, there's no doubt about it. But to me,

1047
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 3: that would not be the priority. I would say, if

1048
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 3: we can figure out just a way to get the

1049
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: players and the teams to travel safely to be able

1050
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: to play the season in some form, that should be

1051
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: our goal. And if that's in January, or if it's

1052
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: in March, or even if it's later, it doesn't really

1053
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 3: matter to me, because I think it's more important that

1054
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 3: once it starts, you want to just to be able

1055
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: to continue, rather than like, again, if you go back

1056
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: in let's say January February, and all of a sudden,

1057
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: one or two teams just contract the virus, then you

1058
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 3: kind of have to suspend the season. I would think, Again,

1059
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 3: no one really knows because it's just such a crazy time.

1060
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 3: So if yeah, I mean, it's such a tough thing

1061
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: for Adam Silver to be able to even figure out

1062
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: and have to tell the owners and the players and

1063
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: the players Association, because it's like we just don't really

1064
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: know what's going on. So you know, hopefully something happens

1065
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 3: and hopefully we can get it up and running again.

1066
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: But when that is, I honestly have no idea right now.

1067
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: What's your personal take? Tasks? Speak selfishly if you want.

1068
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: Would you like the idea of the NBA calendar of

1069
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: being March to October instead of October two, you know, June?

1070
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: But which one would you prefer my Summer's offer?

1071
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 4: Are you? I finally figured out how to evaluate or

1072
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 4: how to figure out how many seasons a guy has played. Now,

1073
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: even though he's gone over he goes over two calendar years.

1074
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 4: I finally figured it out. And I know we all

1075
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,919
Speaker 4: want to have a season within one year, but I'm

1076
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 4: selfish in that, even though we all want to say, yeah,

1077
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty two, Lebron led the league with

1078
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 4: forty four points a game. Yeah, but I'm okay, I'm

1079
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 4: okay being really it being the only convoluted sport that

1080
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 4: really runs over two years, because even the NFL runs

1081
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 4: over two years. But we all they all playoffs, right,

1082
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 4: they all say that the other year. I don't know.

1083
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 4: I mean, I think the NBA and and I guess

1084
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 4: selfishly the summer is the best thing to have off

1085
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 4: the NBA.

1086
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's what Yeah, that's what I was really

1087
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: trying to get out. I was like, do you want

1088
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: the summers off still or do you want to be

1089
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: watching basketball indoors all summer long? Which is what you

1090
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: would be doing what we have been doing here, which

1091
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: has been all right too, because you're not going anywhere anyway.

1092
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: So maybe, but when that gets hot.

1093
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: From the South, nobody's outside anyway.

1094
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good point, Maybe, Trey, you want to be

1095
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: able to stay indoors during this hot summer watch basketball,

1096
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: and then hey, when the winter hits here, you can

1097
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: fly somewhere warm if you want to a snow bird.

1098
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 5: Maybe I could.

1099
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: But you know, it's a Bulls fan.

1100
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 5: I'm happy with them delaying the start of the season

1101
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 5: as long as possible.

1102
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 4: That's all good for me.

1103
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 5: Maybe if you're taking a whole year off, that's a

1104
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 5: year of the Bulls not being disappointed.

1105
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: But I mean, honestly, if.

1106
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 5: They're playing during the summer, they won't do it the

1107
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 5: same way it was in the bubble, right where the

1108
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 5: games are starting at twelve thirty in the end, at

1109
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 5: twelve thirty in the morning, it'll be back to normal

1110
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 5: evening basketball, you would think. And in that case, it's

1111
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 5: just a change in your schedule. I like having the

1112
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 5: summers off, but you know, I'm an.

1113
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 4: Adaptable kind of guy.

1114
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: Humans adjust, all right, all right, please you don't care

1115
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: at all, do you?

1116
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: Oh?

1117
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want the summers off. When you go traveling, man,

1118
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, just travel during the winter. Yeah, the

1119
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 3: school holidays. Boys are on holidays. I when I got traveling,

1120
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 3: I don't want to go on winter. Yeah, I mean

1121
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: it's uh, sum is always much more fun to travel in.

1122
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, thank you for speaking honest. On final one,

1123
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: This What's Weird? A rare and coveted honest antio coopole

1124
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: anted to compo excuse me autographed patch rookie card sold

1125
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 1: for a record breaking one point eight one two million

1126
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: dollars at auction on Sunday night. According to Guess who

1127
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: Darren ravel, this guy loves expensive cards. This card was

1128
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: from the twenty thirteen to fourteen National Treasures set, so

1129
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: in a addition to it being a one of one

1130
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: Corde Beckett I guess greeted this card of nine and

1131
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: the autograph on it from Honest a ten. My question

1132
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: up or downly on spending nearly two million dollars on

1133
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: a Yannis rookie.

1134
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: CARDE listen, I'm down right. So you guys know I've

1135
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 3: been popping packs recently, you know, on our Instagram live there,

1136
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: and I'm trying to mix up the cards because I've

1137
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 3: got a lot from the early nineties. I want to

1138
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 3: get some from the mid to late nineties. And recently

1139
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: I spent one hundred and twenty dollars on a full box,

1140
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 3: like thirty six packs of upper Decks. I think they

1141
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 3: were awfully whatever they were, and I regretted it from

1142
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: the moment I did it, and I was like, what

1143
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: am I doing spending this much money on cards? I'm

1144
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 3: a forty four year old man just to open some

1145
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 3: cards and tell some stories.

1146
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's fun. We can break down a business.

1147
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 3: Expense, so it's it's it's fine and it's fun. But

1148
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 3: I'm like, what am I doing here?

1149
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 4: You know?

1150
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: So someone to spend one point eight million dollars on

1151
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: at a yanis to the Coupo card because it has

1152
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 3: a little piece of his game worn jersey on there.

1153
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: Is a cutograph and okay, am I like, am I

1154
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: reading this correctly. There's only one of these cards ever.

1155
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: Made, apparently, so, and it's so fucking stupid to me.

1156
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is stupid. That doesn't make any sense.

1157
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 3: So apparently someone bought it as well a few years ago,

1158
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 3: but returned it to the seller because I had a

1159
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: little smudge on it. He paid seven thousand dollars in

1160
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: which is still ridiculous, but he returned it. Now it's

1161
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: going on to his self for one point eight mil.

1162
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: The same company that paid one point eight million for

1163
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan card a few weeks ago. So someone out

1164
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 3: there spent three point six million dollars on two cards.

1165
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just ridiculous. What are you going to

1166
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: do with it? What do you when I finished, when

1167
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 3: I finished popping packs, boom, just throw them in the pack.

1168
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 3: I got a big bag of cards here.

1169
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: At least put them on the spokes of your bike.

1170
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to do That was great. So I mean,

1171
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 3: what are you doing if you've got one point eight

1172
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,959
Speaker 3: million dollars to send on cards?

1173
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: Give me a call.

1174
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 3: I'll sell you a few cards and you want to

1175
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: have to play one point million? Let's have a fifty

1176
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 3: bucks a pump you could buy as many as you want,

1177
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 3: because it's just crazy to me that people just would

1178
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 3: spend that much, Like, what is this cow?

1179
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: What is it going to give you?

1180
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 3: How are you gonna get return on your investment for that?

1181
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: Sell it for two point five million dollars when honest

1182
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: goes for see the honest part is interesting. Yeah, Lebron,

1183
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: I think he had his rookie card just sell for

1184
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: like one point eight something that you talked about Jordan.

1185
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: That makes a little sense because those are like obviously

1186
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: you know players that are in the goat discussion, right,

1187
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if not, the goat honest is not there yet.

1188
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an investment, right, This is like

1189
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: banking on Giannis uh doing some special things still task

1190
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: in his career. I mean for paying that much money.

1191
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: I get that it's a one on one I still

1192
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: find that very weird. That doesn't seem right to me,

1193
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 1: just that that doesn't sit right with me. There should

1194
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: be more than that. It should be like a Willy

1195
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: Wonka golden ticket. There's got to be at least five.

1196
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: But this is Janni's task. He's super young still, you know,

1197
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: knock on wood here, but could blow out his knee

1198
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: game one of next season. You know he is starting

1199
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: to weird time. We're starting on Martin Luther King day.

1200
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: He's not ready for it, blows out his knee and

1201
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: suddenly that card goes down. That's a risk man, your money, Mellise,

1202
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: what do you think.

1203
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 4: It sounds like a rich guy who wants a card?

1204
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think it's that much different, skeets

1205
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 4: than you paying seven hundred bucks to frame something to

1206
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 4: put on your wall. It's just relative, right, like what

1207
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 4: a lot of people put seven hundred dollars into a

1208
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 4: towel like you did?

1209
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can look at it, take a peek

1210
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: at that. Where do I go?

1211
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 4: It's always you try to putting a card up on

1212
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 4: the wall, gonna be.

1213
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: Like, who is that?

1214
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 3: Four?

1215
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: Hey?

1216
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 4: Are you just? Did you lay a card down on

1217
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 4: your bed?

1218
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: There?

1219
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 4: You gotta frame that card?

1220
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: Shoeman Shoeman's jokes now, yeah, no, But would you spend

1221
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: two million dollars on a card?

1222
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 4: I don't have two million dollars?

1223
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: I think you do. You got forty four acres, man,

1224
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: sell your land. You can buy a couple of cards,

1225
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: sell off a parcel of land.

1226
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 5: Come on, guys, this is obviously an incredible investment. The

1227
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 5: first guy spent seven thousand dollars on it, but he's

1228
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 5: a dumbass. He returned it and now it's worth one

1229
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 5: point eight million dollars. You sell it again.

1230
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: How much is it going to be worth?

1231
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 4: Five million?

1232
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: Ten million?

1233
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 4: I don't know someone for it, Like, no way, somebody's

1234
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 4: gonna pay five hundred dollars for it. That's how much

1235
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 4: they're going to pay for it. This this is this

1236
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 4: rich guy who's got too much money to do anything with,

1237
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 4: Like he just doesn't know where to spend.

1238
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: But there's other robotics that might be wanting to Yeah.

1239
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the rich guys can trade it at a you know,

1240
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 4: go go hang out at their their a little bike

1241
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: fest and throw them off spokes and pay two million

1242
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 4: bucks for He just paid two million dollars for a

1243
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 4: card with a stain on it.

1244
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: Sucker, come on, not even it wasn't even great A

1245
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: ten from Beckett, you fool. But there is a weird

1246
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: explosion going on here in cards in the business. I

1247
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: think you have something to do with this, Lee because

1248
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 1: I saw that last month a two thousand and nine

1249
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: autographed Mike Trout baseball player Mike Trout rookie card again,

1250
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: one of one sold for three point nine million dollars,

1251
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: the most expensive baseball card ever sold, surpassing what was

1252
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: that old guy? Honestlyus, yes, that's it's crazy.

1253
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 3: Surely you can find something better to spend your money

1254
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 3: on than that. If you've got three point nine to burn, like,

1255
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 3: donate it to charities, help some people out. I mean,

1256
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 3: playing a basketball card, How stupid are you to spend

1257
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: that much money on it?

1258
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: Seriously on a box of them for one hundred and.

1259
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 3: Twenty exactly one hundred and twenty, and I regretted it,

1260
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 3: and I'm like, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna make

1261
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: cuts around here somehow so that I repay my family,

1262
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 3: because I feel like I stole from my family that

1263
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty dollars.

1264
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 5: But speaking, I should just resell the cards. They're obviously

1265
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 5: worth a lot. In the garbage man, you can be

1266
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 5: making millions of dollars.

1267
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 3: Well, so I don't throw them in the gap. I

1268
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 3: have a big bag of where I just throw the

1269
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 3: used ones in there. But speaking of popping packs, today

1270
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 3: join me at four pm Easton where I pop open

1271
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 3: a pack with our friend Night Jones is going to join.

1272
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so interesting.

1273
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1274
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 3: I thought it'd be a good guess because Night No

1275
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 3: it is Naughty's basketball better than anyone, so it should

1276
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 3: be fun. Four pm easton No dun Live.

1277
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be the delivery guy

1278
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 4: delivering your passport am Tasliso No dunce on the athletic.

1279
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 4: Do you want to walk into a room with your

1280
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 4: chest puffed out, your neck long, and your shoulders broad.

1281
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 4: Of course you do. For me, getting clothes that fit

1282
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 4: properly can give me the confidence I need to do

1283
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 4: just that. Indocino hooked me up with the gear that

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Speaker 1: Okay, time for tweenty tonight.

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Speaker 4: Tweet of the knight. Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yes, tweet of the night on yesterday's beach Step. And

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Speaker 5: we started talking about nicknames that we use for players

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Speaker 5: that nobody else used. So we put it out to

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Speaker 5: our Twitter account asking that very question, what are some

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Speaker 5: NBA nicknames you use that no one else does? Like

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Speaker 5: JD's family, who calls Fred van Vliet Sexy Fred? Or

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Speaker 5: the future nickname for Kyrie Irving once he returns one

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Speaker 5: Dribblicious people came through with some great answers. First, this

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Speaker 5: one from Harrison People's I love calling Aaron Baines bangers,

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Speaker 5: but no one else seems to actually think this is

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Speaker 5: not bad. Yeah, banger's not too bad. I would gladly

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Speaker 5: use that. This one from Sergio Colado, a longtime fan,

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Speaker 5: freight Train James for Lebron. I think it sounds cool,

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Speaker 5: but never caught on. I guess this sounds to me

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Speaker 5: like a very old timey baseball nickname.

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Speaker 1: Jeans I'd buy that baseball card. I wish you to

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Speaker 1: think that one's worth a couple of mill easily.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it depends on the stain on the back

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Speaker 5: up next Up next is from Andrew Willis, who says

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Speaker 5: bow biscuits for boy, I'm Bogdanovich. I like this one

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Speaker 5: because it's reminded me of a Gray Biscuits Vasquez, one

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Speaker 5: of the all time great TBJ nicknames. I think I've

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Speaker 5: only called greatest Vasquez gray Biscuits ever since.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe that one didn't come up yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that one and the Armadelo Cowboy for Joe Johnson. Very good.

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Speaker 5: All right, A couple of more here. This one's from

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Speaker 5: Great Dane ninety two, Dana says, sweet.

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Speaker 4: Baby booch.

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Speaker 1: Bouche.

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Speaker 5: I kind of think this one will catch on, at

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Speaker 5: least amongst no ducks between. You know, Lee's obvious fascination

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Speaker 5: with Kamcha and Skeets is obvious love of sweet baby.

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Speaker 1: Put them together on the raptors.

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Speaker 5: It's just perfect.

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Speaker 1: But hold on, doesn't he have like a pretty good

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Speaker 1: nickname called slim limb Duck.

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Speaker 5: I don't know it's memorable, it is. It is sweet

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Speaker 5: baby Booch. I like this last couple here. This one

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Speaker 5: is from Danny G slamming Danny G. I tried to

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Speaker 5: get j V Nasty to catch on for Jonas valentiunas

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Speaker 5: for years, and I'm still trying. It's not bad, but

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Speaker 5: actually bad as This one from Maddie Macher, who says,

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Speaker 5: for some reason, my dad started calling Yonas valentiunis Valerie's anus.

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Speaker 5: That makes sense when that guy's the ass pro shops

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Speaker 5: player of the game every single night. Valerie's aus.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Thanks for chiming in, folks, great great stuff,

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Speaker 1: all right, guys. Game four Eastern Conference Finals back up tonight.

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Speaker 1: Do the Celtics even this series or do the heat

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Speaker 1: push them to the brink of elimination. What's one thing

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Speaker 1: to watch for task Game four between Celtics and Heat.

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Speaker 1: What do you got?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to be watching the Celtics defense if

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Speaker 4: they come out with that tenacity that they came out

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Speaker 4: in the first half. And I'm also just watching them

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Speaker 4: because I love watching Marcus Smart, even though it can

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Speaker 4: be a little polarizing, play defense as well as Jalen Brown.

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Speaker 4: Those guys are so cool to watch, and you guys

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Speaker 4: talked about it on Sunday Show. It's the finesse, great

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Speaker 4: defense of Jalen Brown versus the ruggedness, flopping defense of

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Speaker 4: Marcus Smart. Those guys are just fun to watch on

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Speaker 4: the defensive end. Now, if they are engaged for forty

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Speaker 4: eight minutes, it's hard. On the Heat, it's just so

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Speaker 4: hard because they don't really have a guy, sorry Jimmy,

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Speaker 4: who can take over right now, it hasn't materialized on

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Speaker 4: that end, and it feels like the Celtics have a

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Speaker 4: little bit more of that. The Celtics played a complete

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Speaker 4: game in Game three, that's why they won, and can

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Speaker 4: they do that again. I'm going to be watching the

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Speaker 4: defensive ends. See they're scrappiness level and just how freaking

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Speaker 4: talented they are on that end, because they are a

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Speaker 4: joy to walk defensively.

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Speaker 1: Trey, what are you watching for?

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Speaker 5: Kind of the exact same thing, but from the opposite

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Speaker 5: angles tasks. I want to see a Jimmy Butler takeover game.

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Speaker 5: You know, we've been talking him up as one of

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Speaker 5: the best players in the bubb one of the best

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Speaker 5: players in the NBA, and he's had some crazy clutch moments.

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Speaker 5: But it would also be nice to see another one

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Speaker 5: of those forty point games from Jimmy Butler so that

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Speaker 5: we're not having to see yet another fourth quarter comeback

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Speaker 5: fall short. That's happened a couple of times in the

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Speaker 5: past couple of nights. So I'd like to see the

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Speaker 5: owner of Big Face Coffee grind up some espresso to

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Speaker 5: really come out fireing here early. On that being said,

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Speaker 5: I'm still rooting for the Celtics. I want this one

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Speaker 5: going seven, just like I want every series going seven.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Lely, what do you think tonight?

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Speaker 3: I think the winner of tonight's game wins the series,

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Speaker 3: whichever which have a team takes it. Yeah, and and honestly,

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Speaker 3: I think the Celtics looked at that Game three, and

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Speaker 3: we're like, especially with Gordon Haywood back here, they figured

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Speaker 3: out a little bit of how the Miami Heat play

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Speaker 3: and they know that they can attack that zone and

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Speaker 3: attack the paint, and that's what they need to do

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Speaker 3: to win. So I think the Celtics actually win this

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Speaker 3: one tonight. So and then then that means I think

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Speaker 3: they're gonna win the series. I picked the Heat. I

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Speaker 3: hope that doesn't happen. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm

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Speaker 3: right at the same time because I'm sort of hedging

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Speaker 3: on both teams here. So back to a Jennifer Headger, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just I just thought that the Celtics kind of

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Speaker 3: you know, again, they were close in the first two games,

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Speaker 3: and the game three they figured it out, and Hayward's

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Speaker 3: back and he's rested.

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Speaker 1: He looked good.

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Speaker 3: You know, he didn't have a huge numbers game, but

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Speaker 3: his hand out there is very very important for them.

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Speaker 3: And I thought Jalen Brown's like, he's just going to

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Speaker 3: go so hard at the rim tonight. I think. So,

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Speaker 3: I think this is a huge game. This is not pivotal.

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Speaker 3: This is super pivotal.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, super super pivotal. Game four. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about that. I think we're gonna get some some

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Speaker 1: fireworks here tonight too between these two teams, because they're

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Speaker 1: all gonna want this one. It's going to be scrappy.

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Speaker 1: These teams played horrid. We could see some forehead to

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Speaker 1: forehead action. My buddy Grish could be excited for this one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see guys. Emails your questions and comments for the

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Speaker 1: for today show. Don't forget to go listen to yesterday's

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Speaker 1: Beach Step In podcast. A lot of laughs had in

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Speaker 1: that one, and we'll be back tomorrow morning to break

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Speaker 1: down Game four heat Celtics. Enjoy the game, guys, Clipper bros.

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Speaker 1: You heard it here first.

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Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up, Love you guys awesome, Thanks.

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Speaker 4: For joining us. I remember, just like the H in

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Speaker 4: Honus Wagner's name, the H in you is optional.

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Speaker 1: Embrace the day people.

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Speaker 4: You could stay every day, I thank you, happy, every many.

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Speaker 4: It's done so.

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Speaker 2: Long with your Honna way.

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Speaker 4: Already it's gonna be Gravy

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Speaker 5: Two