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Speaker 1: TV as a current Affair returns to the airwaves, this

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Speaker 1: time featuring Ecdom.

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Speaker 2: We were so over back then. We thought we were

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Speaker 2: like the best see it on this show. I'm thinking,

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Speaker 3: We had to go to New York and it was

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Speaker 3: the pit Bulls, Dreamer Raven, Me, Beulah Shane Okay, and.

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Speaker 2: We were it.

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Speaker 3: I think they put us up in a hotel because

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we were in the Bronx.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember where we were, and the pit bulls

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Speaker 3: were there and I come out and then that was

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Speaker 2: But it was the night I went through the table.

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Speaker 1: Oh was it really interesting.

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Speaker 3: That they were there. So they wanted to interview me,

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Speaker 3: but Paul said no because he wanted me to sell

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, you were dead in the back.

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Speaker 2: They interviewed Beulah instead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well we'll see if that's the clip

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Speaker 1: there's some ECW clips on different news shows. This one

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Speaker 1: was actually paired with MSNBC's Roundtable they had with Paul

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Speaker 1: Hayman and boxing writer Bert Sugar. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: He always had on like, you know, a hat, and

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Speaker 1: and I want to say these are around the same times.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while since I saw this, but when

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Speaker 1: I said Treshchiv with a current affair, now, I don't

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Speaker 1: So ECW fit the current affair mold perfectly, okay, But

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Speaker 1: they still have it in Australia, which I find interesting.

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Speaker 2: Was Maury Pilvich the host at one point.

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Speaker 1: Maury was on it at one point, and I believe

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly was also a current affair, and that's the

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Speaker 1: famous Bill O'Reilly where he loses his shit and screaming

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Speaker 1: the uh you know, you ever see that clip where

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Speaker 1: you know, leaked botch of o'riley's doing his outtakes for

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Speaker 1: But Mari Polvich, yes, a Current Affair. When you when

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Speaker 1: you saw a Current Affair it was on seven point

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong with this clip, then maybe it's something different.

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Speaker 1: Let's see. So I'm gonna pull it up and we

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Bring this bad boy up here as we go flying

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Speaker 2: This guy's probably like, what the hell is this story?

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Speaker 1: This guy has the perfect newsman like look the hair yaw,

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Speaker 2: A handsome man at news Center five.

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now from beauties to the beasts of so called

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Speaker 4: professional wrestling. You've seen their act before, hulking bodies performing

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Speaker 4: in carefully choreographed fights. But a new federation is getting

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Speaker 4: into the ring, and it's performers seem to think that

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Speaker 4: audiences want still more violence of even though virtually all

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Speaker 4: of their performance seems to be an act. We should

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Speaker 4: make you aware of the video we're about to show

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Speaker 4: you appears quite brutal. Here's Leslie Rodgers.

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Speaker 5: You hear it.

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Speaker 6: ECW Extreme Championship Wrestling. It's wild, it's crazy, and it

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Speaker 6: just might be the most violent.

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Speaker 5: It's violence a package. There's entertainment. There's no more sport

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Speaker 5: to this than Bob Peters is not a ramble movie.

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Speaker 6: But the wilder it gets, the more fans it attracts.

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Speaker 1: And now they start taking world. Look at that that

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Speaker 1: was cutting Saturn's hair three more more than a scientific

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Speaker 6: Scientific is that what you call fans giving wrestlers turned on,

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Speaker 1: But Tommy's got a fishing or oh e c W

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Speaker 2: And that's what people want to pay the seat.

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Speaker 5: It's fake, but obviously just got making fake violence book

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Speaker 5: as realistic as possible.

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Speaker 6: Bob Peers, the president of Peter says that the Championship

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Speaker 5: This is not the sport, this is not a content the.

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Speaker 1: Morality reality of media.

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Speaker 2: Oh God hated me.

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Speaker 1: You know what they say about guys like this.

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Speaker 7: You can imagine now right now, you see that under

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Speaker 7: Battle for the Giants, that guys World Wrestling Federation World

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Speaker 6: Although Aunty four years.

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Speaker 1: That was the Big Charge's slaughter into.

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Speaker 6: He's a junior high school teacher during the week. Even

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Speaker 6: these events are too violent for children, he said in

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Speaker 6: that's why.

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Speaker 1: It was definitely before you guys were paired. Oh, we hit.

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Speaker 4: The top guy here, I mean the top guy there

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Speaker 4: is there. You gotta sell baby dolls here.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to entertain these people. I'm trying to give

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Speaker 1: it a great wrestling match plastic right here.

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Speaker 6: Wow, Rebel has managed to got.

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Speaker 1: A physician that there game. That one of my inspiration.

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Speaker 2: This is not the clip.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was double show.

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Speaker 2: This is a totally small child. No, I think I

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Speaker 4: I've seen better wrestling in high school.

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Speaker 2: You're a dick. I take back everything I said about you.

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Speaker 2: What an asshole.

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Speaker 1: He's seen better wrestling in high school?

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Speaker 2: He did. I believe were we on a current affair twice?

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Speaker 3: Because we were on Okay, because we were on some

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Speaker 1: It's it's interesting just even that kind of access though

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Speaker 1: You know, the ECW faithful being probably the most smart

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Speaker 3: We need it mainstream press, you know, like we we

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Speaker 3: any any publicity was good publicity, whether they shit on

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Speaker 3: You know, we just wanted to get the word out

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Speaker 1: But that's kind of like the old school mentality when

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Speaker 1: the classic response to wrestling back in the day. Now everybody's,

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Speaker 2: Itwagon, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, let's pull this picture back up here, and

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Speaker 1: this is the queen's highlight in this this little clip here.

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Speaker 1: So this was the cutting of the hair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Harry was not happy with this at all.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so take us back, do you do? What

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't like it.

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Speaker 3: I remember was he I got, I got the brunt

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Speaker 2: I don't think he approved of this spot.

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Speaker 3: It was because that I took total elimination about twenty

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Speaker 2: Uh you can't.

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Speaker 8: But uh, I I had talked about this before, like

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Speaker 2: But I I just remember that Perry didn't like this angle,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they did for sure.

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Speaker 1: They you get snipped that that mullet there, that hair.

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Speaker 2: I do remember Anthony closelining me on the outside.

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Speaker 3: Turned and went with Shane, we did a spot and

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Speaker 3: I couldn't catch my breath, and I went by myself

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Speaker 2: But I went into the corner and I thought I

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't breathe. I couldn't get my throat to open

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Speaker 2: But I was so scared.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be getting close eyed by a brick.

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Speaker 2: To me, it was careless on his part. I feel like,

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Speaker 3: I gotta remember that. Other the clip that's in my

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna look for that next. We won't do that

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Speaker 1: Finally, did you save any of Saturn's tear?

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Speaker 2: I did not.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I believe I was swept up with all the other

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Speaker 2: Out that night.

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Speaker 1: As if you guys needed anything else on that, Matt.

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Speaker 1: Now we have ponytail.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of DNA on that.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of hepatitis B floating around on that maps.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I tried to not touch it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, on, one man's trash is another man's treasure. Somebody

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Speaker 1: All right, Well we will wrap it up here for

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Speaker 1: the week. We appreciate you hanging with us again, and

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