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Speaker 1: Season fifteen, Episode number eighty eight. Welcome to another edition
Speaker 1: of The Break. We are live from the s WBC
Speaker 1: mort Studios. At the start, we got a lot to
Speaker 1: talk about to day, we're gonna talk about It's big
Speaker 1: injury that we gotta get into. We'll talk about some
Speaker 1: other injuries. Eighty eight, oh eighty eight, it is day.
Speaker 1: There we go. There is a shirt, right, I would assume.
Speaker 1: So if they're gonna go through, I don't think I
Speaker 1: could come up with fifteen other names of players in
Speaker 1: Cowboys history that are more dissolving than them. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I love Drew Pearson, do you? Yeah? Why wouldn't we? Okay,
Speaker 1: Show eighty eight go, thank you. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: some some injuries, and then we're gonna get into a
Speaker 1: little sea unknown. Amber has a segment for us there.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get some questions and then we want to
Speaker 1: hear from you guys. Eight eight eight eight five five
Speaker 1: two two nine seven is the number again. Eight eight
Speaker 1: eight eight five five two two nine seven. Will take
Speaker 1: some calls from you guys throughout the third segment, maybe
Speaker 1: even dip into the second segment a little bit. How's
Speaker 1: everybody doing this Friday? Good? Wonderful? Doing great? I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so excited about this game. I cannot wait.
Speaker 1: I hate I hate the cold, but this will be
Speaker 1: the only game that I'm actually excited for where it's
Speaker 1: a cold environment. You're not looking forward to Chicago no ways.
Speaker 1: Talking about going to Belichick's press conference after the games.
Speaker 1: To go do that and work their locker room, because
Speaker 1: she's like, I just want to see what that much
Speaker 1: success like, what it's like in their locker room, what
Speaker 1: it's like in their press conference. Just spy them a
Speaker 1: little bit, just sneaking there, see what's up, and you know,
Speaker 1: you never know what kind of AIMFO you can get from.
Speaker 1: I'm not like I'm I you know, I like going
Speaker 1: to Lambeau in the cold and soldier field, but it's
Speaker 1: supposed to rain all day Sunday. I'm not really looking
Speaker 1: forward to like forty and rainy. That's like the worst combination. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it's not cold enough to snow, but still
Speaker 1: cold and wet. And Yeah, because being the press spot,
Speaker 1: you're I'm definitely looking forward to the game because sure
Speaker 1: we will learn so much about the Cowboys, I think
Speaker 1: in this game, about both their offense and their defense
Speaker 1: in my opinion, So I think would be a fun game. First. Less, though,
Speaker 1: we we got to talk about some injuries. Layton vander
Speaker 1: esh news comes down Garrett talks about in his press
Speaker 1: conference he's got a neck injury, and it sounds like
Speaker 1: it's relatively serious in my opinion talking about what you've heard,
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like he's gonna play in this game.
Speaker 1: Unlikely to play. Um, they're not as worried about it
Speaker 1: being a season ending injury, but just the fact that
Speaker 1: that's being mentioned is to the point where you know
Speaker 1: this there's a game in like four or four days
Speaker 1: after this, so missing one game probably means missing too.
Speaker 1: That's what. Yeah, Garrett kind of freaked me out today
Speaker 1: because he's like we don't think it's career threatening, right that.
Speaker 1: I was like, freak me up. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: that's good, But the fact that you even had to
Speaker 1: bring it up, it's kind of scary. It was at
Speaker 1: some point a part of the conversation. I would have
Speaker 1: said for you to bring it up if you think back,
Speaker 1: like stingers and neck problems was part of his flip
Speaker 1: card coming out of college. It was definitely, you know,
Speaker 1: on the list of concerns, wasn't because the whole thing
Speaker 1: with the next thing that he wears, that's why he
Speaker 1: wears that neck role. Yeah, so yeah, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: encouraging news. It's not career threatening. It's not season ending,
Speaker 1: they don't think. But the fact that that even comes
Speaker 1: up in conversation is is pretty scary. And it stems
Speaker 1: back to the stinger he suffered against the Eagles, which
Speaker 1: was obviously it was severe enough to keep him out
Speaker 1: after the bye weeks. So two whole weeks to rest
Speaker 1: and recuperate and you're still not ready says a lot
Speaker 1: about how severe it probably was. And the fact that
Speaker 1: they qualify it with they don't think it's season ending.
Speaker 1: System sure that there's a chance, absolutely season ending. And
Speaker 1: I'll go a step further than Nick. You go bills
Speaker 1: four days after this game and then a week and
Speaker 1: so they're gonna play three games obviously in the next
Speaker 1: twelve or whatever days it is, and it could be
Speaker 1: a tall order for him to get back for any
Speaker 1: of those. How does this affect the Cowboys. I know
Speaker 1: they've got some depth there. Obviously, Sean Lee steps right
Speaker 1: in when they're a nickel that he can be one
Speaker 1: of those two linebackers. Joe Thomas is a guy like
Speaker 1: a lot and I think he's a really good linebacker
Speaker 1: for them. But how does this affect them overall from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of how they play their linebackers. Well, they
Speaker 1: don't have a big, young, athletic linebacker that can fly
Speaker 1: around to the ball. I mean, that's he's an All
Speaker 1: Pro as a rookie. There's only a handful of players
Speaker 1: in Cowboys history that have done that. So, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: missing that type of player. Sean Lee comes in, but
Speaker 1: he's just not the same. I mean, it's just like
Speaker 1: any of those positions we've seen when Lyle goes down
Speaker 1: Tyr and goes down the guy's not the same. It's
Speaker 1: it's not as big a drop off maybe with with
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas there, but I think when you're talking about
Speaker 1: overall all the linebackers, Joe Thomas is still not practicing today.
Speaker 1: It must be a heck of an illness, which again,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know for us that's normal, Like you know,
Speaker 1: flew will knock you out or a cold will knock
Speaker 1: you out for two or three days. But what you're
Speaker 1: just super tough guy. I don't get sick, first of all,
Speaker 1: but yeah, illnesses don't happen. Why do you throw it
Speaker 1: off track all the time? Really, just give the guys zack.
Speaker 1: I was gonna like NFL players have access to you know,
Speaker 1: ivs and Z packs and you know trainers and doctors
Speaker 1: whose job it is to get them back quickly as possible.
Speaker 1: So the fact that he's been out for three days
Speaker 1: is telling. Having said that, the fact that we basically
Speaker 1: know Layton's not gonna play means I bet he's gonna
Speaker 1: be I veed up and they're gonna do everything they
Speaker 1: can to get him out there or by Sunday afternoon,
Speaker 1: if I had to guess. And he's the type of
Speaker 1: guy though, when you're talking about what the Patriots do
Speaker 1: with all the screens, and you know that they do
Speaker 1: like to run the ball, even though they may not
Speaker 1: have a runner that's a dynamic player. You know, James
Speaker 1: White's pretty good and Sonny Michelle's the first round pick,
Speaker 1: so he's pretty dynamic. But I just think that, you know,
Speaker 1: this was a game where you would you really want
Speaker 1: your big, fast, strong linebacker to run around there. I'm
Speaker 1: super super worried because and I'm trying not to be,
Speaker 1: but I just look at all scenarios and like, let's
Speaker 1: say he's out for two games and then you having
Speaker 1: to use shan Lee Moore and Shanlee we know he's
Speaker 1: kind of fragile in a way. We all know that,
Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm just I'm really worried of what
Speaker 1: could happen. And I love Shanley, He's my favorite player
Speaker 1: and all that, But imagine not having shan Lee or
Speaker 1: late and then what happens now, especially with the linebacker. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what would have to say. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's like, what are you getting from that? I mean,
Speaker 1: when you talk about a group that has already been
Speaker 1: struggling this year, I mean the drop off is pretty
Speaker 1: big there. Maybe we haven't seen enough of Joe to
Speaker 1: know what he's gonna do in a situation where he
Speaker 1: has a ton of snaps. From what I've seen in
Speaker 1: the snaps that he's had, I think they're fine. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's a big drop off there at all. Personally.
Speaker 1: Now what happens is I'd know that Cowboys a lot
Speaker 1: this year. They like to stick with their four three
Speaker 1: defense even when teams will throw three wide receivers at them.
Speaker 1: That's where you run into a bit of a challenge.
Speaker 1: There is now you start thinking about and by the way,
Speaker 1: you got a cornerback that's now out on ir right.
Speaker 1: So now as you mix between good nickel and going
Speaker 1: your base defense, you'd have that extra defensive back, or
Speaker 1: you'd have that extra that extra linebacker, and now both
Speaker 1: of them are getting really slim. If you get in
Speaker 1: a situation where, let's say, for example, you didn't have
Speaker 1: Sean on top of not having Layton. So that's where
Speaker 1: I start to worry. It's more about the depth. I
Speaker 1: think as long as Joe Thomas is out there, I
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about what he can do a linebacker.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna used to see this as a positive because again,
Speaker 1: I mean Layton has been banged up at least since Philly,
Speaker 1: if not before that, to the point where we asked
Speaker 1: him about it last week. It was like, hey, you're
Speaker 1: kind of playing through a little more than you're letting
Speaker 1: on and he laughed. He was like, yeah, you could
Speaker 1: say that idea, I mean, which I get it. Everybody is.
Speaker 1: And he also said nobody cares, which is also true.
Speaker 1: But I guarantee you it's limited his effectiveness. So I'd
Speaker 1: rather play healthy linebackers who are not as good than
Speaker 1: him at whatever percentage he's been at because linebackers struggled,
Speaker 1: and I think him trying to gut through injuries has
Speaker 1: probably been part of that. And a guy like Luke Gifford,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they got other guys that they
Speaker 1: can justin, justin warsh that they can kind of throw
Speaker 1: in there. I don't know if they'll be as good,
Speaker 1: but I feel like they are in the times that
Speaker 1: we've seen them on the field, they've given you reason
Speaker 1: to be optimistic at least that maybe they can do
Speaker 1: due something. So I don't know. Again, I think I
Speaker 1: still have in my memory that time of what was
Speaker 1: it was it two years ago? When how and then
Speaker 1: Anthony and then all of a sudden, you couldn't figure
Speaker 1: out what to do with the defense when you take
Speaker 1: out one of those guys, all this sudden, and oh
Speaker 1: the whole group is screwed up. So I just I
Speaker 1: think I just keep remembering those scenarios, and that's what worries.
Speaker 1: Let's run through a couple of these other guys that
Speaker 1: are not excuse me, that did not practice yesterday. Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins files back, he is back today. Joe Thomas, he
Speaker 1: did not practice a day. Donovan Wilson was out yesterday,
Speaker 1: also with an illness. Same thing. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's the same thing, but he was out with an illness.
Speaker 1: He back today or it's a great question. I don't remember.
Speaker 1: He's been active, right, yeah, that with Jeff Heath, Yeah
Speaker 1: he's been active. Yeah. I don't think he hasn't been
Speaker 1: inactive in a month or so. I don't I wasn't
Speaker 1: looking for him at practice. I'm sorry, I don't remember
Speaker 1: if he's there or not. Well, all the guys that
Speaker 1: were limited, you got Zack Martin, Connor, Williams, Antoine Woods,
Speaker 1: I presume all still at least limited today, maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit more, but sounds like most of those guys
Speaker 1: are going to be ready to play this weekend. Right,
Speaker 1: It was really looking like it was gonna be all
Speaker 1: hands on deck until this Layton News kind of dropped
Speaker 1: on us, so, but overall still fairly healthy home. So
Speaker 1: let's jump to inactives, and pretty much you got your
Speaker 1: list that they've been running out most weeks. You got
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson, you got Tristan Hill, you would have Leyton
Speaker 1: vander esh in the instance you wanted to make Luke
Speaker 1: Gifford active. You got Um Brandon Knight, Devin Smith, Cedric Wilson,
Speaker 1: and then I assume I don't know if you want
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson in that spot. You got the two young
Speaker 1: the other two cornerbacks, Josh Jones, Deontay Burton. Yeah, who
Speaker 1: would you want to put in that final spot that
Speaker 1: you need for inactives or was there one of those
Speaker 1: guys it's been an active that you think maybe needs
Speaker 1: to be active, Jones or Wilson probably there, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would agree one of those will be inactive, and then
Speaker 1: I think they would prefer to have Deontay Burton inactive,
Speaker 1: just you know, bringing a guy in for the first
Speaker 1: time on Wednesday and asking him to play against Tom
Speaker 1: Brady on Sunday. Maybe not in Anthony Brown's spot from
Speaker 1: last week, somebody Anthony Brown was active, he was He's
Speaker 1: off the roster now, right, but Burton is on the roster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so he's if he's an active that buddy will
Speaker 1: throw Josh Jones. Throw Josh Jones in there. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then he was active last week when he was Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm trying to figure out, like, where who's
Speaker 1: the extra spot? Who are you playing? Donovan Wilson was
Speaker 1: on this list that I threw out there, but he's
Speaker 1: Connor Williams. Connor Williams was not active. Yeah, Connor Williams
Speaker 1: would be the guy that would be active now that
Speaker 1: wasn't last week. I would like to I would like
Speaker 1: to have Brandon Knight. Brandon Knight available because of Lyles
Speaker 1: and he. I know you have Cam Fleming, but I
Speaker 1: mean all all those guys are dinged up, so it
Speaker 1: sounds true scary to me. And so if you wanted
Speaker 1: to do that, you could sit you know, you could
Speaker 1: sit two dbs instead of one or whatever. What does
Speaker 1: that leave you in the CJ. Goodwin's gonna need to
Speaker 1: be your your emergency guy, just like um Vontell Tell
Speaker 1: Bryan Bryant said, perfect, Vontell Bran. It has to play
Speaker 1: receiver sometimes. I mean we've seen him out there running around,
Speaker 1: you know, and just because you don't have Cedric Wilson
Speaker 1: or but I also, you know, just because I want
Speaker 1: him to play or have Brandon Knight available, doesn't mean
Speaker 1: they will. I won't be surprised if he's an active Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, those tactical tackles have been banged up here
Speaker 1: for a few weeks and they all of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think Dalton Schultz really should be active. I
Speaker 1: really don't. I've been saying, well, they go jumbo. They
Speaker 1: put Cam Fleming in the other day as as a
Speaker 1: third tackle, and you know, I agree, I'd rather have
Speaker 1: Brandon Knight in there. I think Brandon Knight would actually
Speaker 1: be a pretty good third tackle. Um Schultz doesn't play
Speaker 1: a whole lot for years. It did have a catch
Speaker 1: taken off the board last week, but you know that's
Speaker 1: the only time I've heard he's saying, yeah, he doesn't
Speaker 1: do well. I mean not to be funny, but it's true.
Speaker 1: But it's like you don't really see him doing anything
Speaker 1: now and he doesn't provide what you want from three
Speaker 1: tight ends. You don't. You don't have this mawler of
Speaker 1: a blocker. I'd rather just have Brandon Knight going there
Speaker 1: and check in every time with the referee saying I'm
Speaker 1: or Joe Looney or Joe either one. Yeah. Do you
Speaker 1: think they'll do that though? And he always play that game?
Speaker 1: Do you think well that because I sit here and
Speaker 1: say all that, like this is what I want to happen,
Speaker 1: Like who cares? Who cares what I want? They're the
Speaker 1: ones that make the decisions. But if we just continue
Speaker 1: to just do that all the time, like we would
Speaker 1: never have we just wear blue every day and every
Speaker 1: game and just felt like this is what we do.
Speaker 1: What's Dave wearing? You are? This is what we do.
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Speaker 1: one score, September twenty nineteen. Back to the break, welcome back,
Speaker 1: second segment of the show. Like from s WBC Mortig
Speaker 1: Studios at the Star, Nick tell us, someone let me
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Speaker 1: was that? Jerrys? What the boss say? Okay, sorry, I'm
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Speaker 1: Why doesn't Why doesn't Annber read this? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: so so there you go. That's why you're okay, that's fine, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, it stopped for a little see or no? Alright,
Speaker 1: all right, well you mentioned well we get into the
Speaker 1: weather later, but see or no? Does the Dallas defense
Speaker 1: lock up the run game against the New England pat
Speaker 1: Trips A lock up the run game? Yeah? I think.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Patriots are going to be hurting
Speaker 1: them with the run a whole lot. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that they lock it up? Define lock it up?
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Ian contain it? I mean it
Speaker 1: and lock it down? Did they lock it up against
Speaker 1: the Lions, Like, what does that qualify as locking it up? Drop?
Speaker 1: So that's why I say, I'm gonna say, no, that
Speaker 1: was a that was a worse run team. And I
Speaker 1: don't want to say worst coach team, but if there's
Speaker 1: a coach I believe knows how to how to maximize,
Speaker 1: like again, knows how to beat your deficiencies. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: have shown this season that there are always to beat
Speaker 1: them in the run game, so I suspect that they're
Speaker 1: going to have some success. Now it's all a matter
Speaker 1: of how much success. No, but I think there's times
Speaker 1: in the game where they were running the ball down
Speaker 1: the Cowboys row, and that's my point. That's my point.
Speaker 1: So I think that there will be moments. I would suspect,
Speaker 1: unless the Cowboys figure some stuff out, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: moments in this game where they're probably gonna get run on.
Speaker 1: And that's why I brought that up. It's like, statistically,
Speaker 1: the Lions didn't really do anything, right, but do you
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys played a good game? No? And that's yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll probably look something like that, so it certainly wouldn't
Speaker 1: be better, no, right, I mean you know, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know they're playing a better quarterback, but they're not
Speaker 1: playing in mare athletic quarterback. True finally agreed on Shawn
Speaker 1: Lee leads to the team in tackles this week. See
Speaker 1: see no swiper mc swiperton is going to be making
Speaker 1: them tackles. Mc swiperton, I like break the tide, Derek.
Speaker 1: See see, I'm gonna go with yes, I think Shaun
Speaker 1: Lee will lead the team in tackles. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with Jaitlyn Smith eleven plus eleven plus from mister. I
Speaker 1: saw him in the hallway yesterday. Yeah it was yesterday,
Speaker 1: and I liked his attitude, his po Shawn Lee. Stop
Speaker 1: stop Sean Lee anyway. See, he gave me a good vibe.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna have a good weekend and I'm excited
Speaker 1: for it. All Right, Where is this other one? With
Speaker 1: the way that Dak has been playing recently, Should the
Speaker 1: Cowboys start using the past to set up the run
Speaker 1: moving forward? See, but with a caveat of like, maybe
Speaker 1: not this weekend, Maybe not in this game because I
Speaker 1: think the Pats are susceptible to the run and I
Speaker 1: think the conditions are going to not benefit themselves. We
Speaker 1: actually on cover for Today, we talked about the seventeen
Speaker 1: Redskins game, which is if you remember, at halftime they
Speaker 1: basically told Dak like, you're not throwing it anymore. This
Speaker 1: is a monsoon and regardless of how much push we're getting,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna put the game in Zeke's hands. And
Speaker 1: it was ugly, but they got the job done. Some
Speaker 1: you know, special teams and defense helped with that. Byron
Speaker 1: how to pick six scanderkad a block field goal. Uh So,
Speaker 1: I mean not saying they won't be able to throw
Speaker 1: the ball at all, but this, for me, is a
Speaker 1: game where you want the run game to be clicking
Speaker 1: or interesting. Yeah, you're right, You're right, Scandrick returned it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's actually the game there that you guys
Speaker 1: are being able to see if you're watching the show
Speaker 1: right now. I bet I bet we had that B
Speaker 1: role available because of cover for if I had to
Speaker 1: get yeah, gush, yeah, So this, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: a game where it would be nice to be able
Speaker 1: to run the ball. But I say no to the question,
Speaker 1: I don't think you really should ever do that. I
Speaker 1: don't think you should open up. I don't think you
Speaker 1: should start with the pass to open up the run.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what the Cowboys do. I don't
Speaker 1: think that they'll tell you that they say that. What
Speaker 1: they do is they're going to go out there, line up,
Speaker 1: do what we do. But you know, when the safety
Speaker 1: comes down, then it's time to throw. If the state,
Speaker 1: if the linebackers are going to move back and watch
Speaker 1: because the Mark Cooper's out there, then then you run.
Speaker 1: I think that's what they do. I don't think you
Speaker 1: say we're gonna pass and hopefully we can run. They're
Speaker 1: just gonna run their offense. But within the play, you
Speaker 1: know what they don't respect Michael got up on the outside,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna continue to throw it to him. I think.
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's like we're a past team
Speaker 1: and stop us. I think there's still a run team. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: like we said yesterday, we're gonna find out what Belichick
Speaker 1: thinks about that and then their defense. Now, we talked
Speaker 1: about the weather being bad and all that. If it's raining,
Speaker 1: should the Cowboys go for two instead of kicking for
Speaker 1: the extra point? This might change the kicking game for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. No, I'm gonna say no to that. Not
Speaker 1: a bad thought. But this team has not been good
Speaker 1: inside the three or five yard line. They don't they
Speaker 1: don't run it in all the time. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think that's the worst part of Dak's game right now.
Speaker 1: It's the passing within those small windows. I don't think
Speaker 1: the route running has been great down there, So I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a higher percentage on two point conversion.
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't love the thought. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't hate the thought. I also, you know, I
Speaker 1: know it's supposed to rain. I doubt it's going to
Speaker 1: be a torrential downpour for all three hours. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't see that that often. And then the Patriots
Speaker 1: play on turf, so it's not like the condition. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know the field's not gonna be coming apart because
Speaker 1: of the rains. So I just let him kick. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I may not say that as a blanket statement at
Speaker 1: every time it comes up, then you always go for it,
Speaker 1: But I do think I may take some opportunities in
Speaker 1: this game to go for two. If it's a situation
Speaker 1: where it's it's really wet, then in my opinion, even
Speaker 1: though you say that they haven't been great there, I
Speaker 1: still my level of confidence that my kicker is gonna
Speaker 1: consistently make those in wet conditions. I think it's probably
Speaker 1: a fifty feet shot, right. So for me, I would
Speaker 1: say there are probably some moments in the game, depending
Speaker 1: on the score and depending on the situation, where I
Speaker 1: may say, hey, here's an opportunity to go for two,
Speaker 1: let's do it. He isn't. He hasn't kicked in that,
Speaker 1: whether maybe last year or something. I don't think that
Speaker 1: hasn't really been a raining game like that since he's
Speaker 1: been here. So you're right, I just you know, you're
Speaker 1: seeing teams change their philosophies a little bit on going
Speaker 1: for two, And I think it comes down to the
Speaker 1: fact that, you know, is there a play that we like, right,
Speaker 1: And also it's just not as higher percentage. It's not
Speaker 1: like it's an making the extra points. So I mean
Speaker 1: there's a lot of teams now that I'm like, this
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to do this, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: like when you're down, you're down by nine, you're trying
Speaker 1: to make it a seven point game with eight minutes
Speaker 1: to go, Like that makes no sense to me because
Speaker 1: you could really end it for you But I don't
Speaker 1: do it. I don't get it either. Yeah, the Eagles
Speaker 1: did it when the Eagles beat the Packers. They wound
Speaker 1: up winning the game, but that game could have easily
Speaker 1: gone to overtime for no reason. They were up, they
Speaker 1: scored to go up seven, and they decided to go
Speaker 1: for two, which is great because if you get it,
Speaker 1: you're up two scores in the fourth quarter. But they
Speaker 1: didn't get it. And now you know it's that much.
Speaker 1: It's so much easier for the team to tie you.
Speaker 1: And I know, you know, analytics people and people who
Speaker 1: get that more than I do will tell you, like,
Speaker 1: the numbers makes sense, But I don't know the old
Speaker 1: school everything I know from watching football and following it
Speaker 1: my whole life, it just doesn't jive that numbers make sense.
Speaker 1: I think if you're a team that can score those
Speaker 1: two point conversions and down there at the two or three,
Speaker 1: but that's just not something we've seen from the Cowboys
Speaker 1: of scoring a fourth and goal from the three. I
Speaker 1: like that quarterback draw every time. Yep, all right, Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott will get flustered by the Patriots blitz. I don't
Speaker 1: know people like That's the thing that people have been
Speaker 1: talking about the last couple of days, a lot of
Speaker 1: people asked, Like they asked Callen about it, They asked
Speaker 1: Amar and Dak about it, like, I don't, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think they blitz more than any other team
Speaker 1: they've played, Like it's just you know, this crazy facet
Speaker 1: of their game. I mean, I'm sure they will let me.
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's gonna find ways to manufacture pressure if he
Speaker 1: needs to, But I just don't think it'll be crazy
Speaker 1: compared to any other game Dak's ever played. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think there will be things that Dak's never seen in
Speaker 1: this game. I mean, And the one thing I keep
Speaker 1: going back to it was the game trying to remember
Speaker 1: which game it was. It was the game where they
Speaker 1: had the third and two that they did not convert
Speaker 1: and they end up losing yardage on it. And after
Speaker 1: the game, Travis Frederick was asked about it and he
Speaker 1: said it was at Minnesota. He was like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: showed us something that we hadn't really seen before, and
Speaker 1: that was kind of his rationalis to why the play
Speaker 1: didn't work out. And it made me start to think, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: if showing you something you hadn't seen before is a problem,
Speaker 1: good luck this weekend, which this is a team that's
Speaker 1: gonna show you things that you haven't seen before. And
Speaker 1: that's where I say They're gonna be moments in this
Speaker 1: game where Dak's probably gonna get a little flustered at
Speaker 1: seeing something maybe he hasn't seen before. What I love
Speaker 1: about Dak is Dack's and I wanted to get too flustered, right,
Speaker 1: even if he still knows how to, he still knows
Speaker 1: how to how to make things happen, even when it's
Speaker 1: kind of a situation that would probably have other people
Speaker 1: just completely out of their game. I don't like the
Speaker 1: word flustered in that question. Yeah, Like, yeah, Dak will
Speaker 1: probably get sacked on a third down or you know,
Speaker 1: or yeah, they'll they'll dial up something that he's not
Speaker 1: familiar with, but he doesn't get flustered. They might beat him,
Speaker 1: they'll definitely be there'll be some players they're gonna get him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think he gets flustered. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think he gets flustered. Do you think they should
Speaker 1: play Wilson Moore at safety? No? No, I mean I
Speaker 1: know it, it's a small sample size. I get it,
Speaker 1: but like Woods left that game and Wilson came in
Speaker 1: and they immediately took advantage of it last week, and
Speaker 1: that was Jeff Driscoll, not Tom Brady. No, he's not ready,
Speaker 1: I don't think, and I don't know if he ever
Speaker 1: will be. It's gonna be interesting even next year. We're
Speaker 1: looking at Donovan Wilson because everyone's gonna remember the interceptions
Speaker 1: and all that, and he's gonna get to play at
Speaker 1: some point. But the reason why he was drafted in
Speaker 1: the sixth round is because he doesn't have top end
Speaker 1: speed and that speed gets exposed at the safety position,
Speaker 1: and so you know, you could hate Jeff Heath all
Speaker 1: you want to, but he can run. He's a fast
Speaker 1: player and one of the fastest on the team, one
Speaker 1: of the fastest on the team. And I just think
Speaker 1: that Olumpos makes plays and don Wilson makes plays, and
Speaker 1: they made plays in the preseason. But they're gonna get
Speaker 1: or he's gonna get a chance. But I still think
Speaker 1: speed's gonna be an issue for him. It's funny if
Speaker 1: you think about like the way things color people's perception,
Speaker 1: and I get I mean, yes, Jeff Heath is better
Speaker 1: than a lot of people want to get it give
Speaker 1: him credit for No, he's not the answer to the
Speaker 1: safety position. He gives up plays, he takes bad angles.
Speaker 1: All of that can be true. But you know, he
Speaker 1: got pushed into action against Matt Stafford and Calvin Johnson
Speaker 1: as a rookie and got exposed as you would expect,
Speaker 1: and it colored a lot of people's perceptions of him
Speaker 1: for a long time. Donovan Wilson has a great perception
Speaker 1: about him because he made plays in the preseason and
Speaker 1: hasn't really had a chance to show you otherwise. So
Speaker 1: it's just funny that, you know, he is supposedly in
Speaker 1: a lot of people's minds, like the answer to the
Speaker 1: safety problem. Whereas I mean, if they throw him out
Speaker 1: there against Tom Brady and he gets exposed, then how
Speaker 1: are people going to feel? Yeah, I just you know
Speaker 1: it's the one. It can be very flattering to a
Speaker 1: player or very unfair either way, and can turn on
Speaker 1: a dime n one thing one moment and immediately something
Speaker 1: happens that changes at forever. Right But now so, I
Speaker 1: mean these safeties and Cheeto had a roll in it too,
Speaker 1: But like the ninety two yard play against the Jets,
Speaker 1: like I can't forget about it. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of fans can't forget about it shouldn't happen. I don't
Speaker 1: think throwing Donovan Wilson out there is the right problem
Speaker 1: to fix it. But like, I also don't think you're
Speaker 1: crazy for being concerned about the position well dari and Thompson,
Speaker 1: I think would be the guy you'd be talking about
Speaker 1: way more before you get to Wilson. Yeah, it's sad
Speaker 1: because I was excited about Wilson during the preseason. Thornhill
Speaker 1: made a fantastic play on Monday Night Football, by the way,
Speaker 1: broke up a ball on the goal line that might
Speaker 1: have been a touchdown. So he's playing and making plays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's active. He's active, and like literally he gets
Speaker 1: a jersey. I love how we're just going down. Sorry,
Speaker 1: And there's at least half of alladies has no idea
Speaker 1: what you know? They absolutely no one. If you're listening
Speaker 1: to this show, you get that rep y y who
Speaker 1: doesn't play Thank you Dame hard time. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't need to spell that out for our loyal listeners,
Speaker 1: I promise true, all right. Earlier this week, we talked
Speaker 1: about Tom Brady and the things he's currently doing. A
Speaker 1: lot of short passes. Now, do you think that the
Speaker 1: cow Boys defense will finally be able to stop the
Speaker 1: scream game this week? If they can completely stop the
Speaker 1: screen slash short running back game, they'll win this game.
Speaker 1: I mean that's they're not also a good start though,
Speaker 1: because they did they did just lose, right. I don't
Speaker 1: trust that the I don't trust that the Patriots have
Speaker 1: a way to consistently move the ball in chunks other
Speaker 1: than that, other than their defense. Okay, but on offense,
Speaker 1: I'm just I mean James White, Rex Burkhead, sometimes Sony Michelle,
Speaker 1: like though they do a lot of lifting, a lot
Speaker 1: of it. I mean we talk. I mean I really
Speaker 1: like like on the boundary. I like the Cowboys matchups
Speaker 1: in this game, like Cheeto and Byron Verse. Probably not
Speaker 1: Mohammed Sanu, so you know, yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's been ruled out, but it's not looking good. So
Speaker 1: you got um Philip door Set, who's gimpy, and then
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers and Nikil Harry. I don't know. That doesn't
Speaker 1: that doesn't scare me. So short passes over the middle,
Speaker 1: whether it's Edelman, whether it's running backs, I think that's
Speaker 1: their bread and butter. Now this isn't necessarily a se
Speaker 1: no question, but here it is. Given the slow starts,
Speaker 1: should the Cowboys get or kick the ball if they
Speaker 1: win the coin toss? That's a good that's a good question.
Speaker 1: I looked the stat up. The Patriots are are outscoring
Speaker 1: teams eighty seven to twenty in the first quarter. They
Speaker 1: win every quarter, but they dominate that eighty seven to twenty.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are The only quarter they don't win is
Speaker 1: the first quarter. So that being said, Um, if I'm
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, I think I take the football. Do not
Speaker 1: I think that? I think the Patriots question, I didn't say,
Speaker 1: oh is it right? No, No, I'm saying I think
Speaker 1: I would. I think the Patriots and Bill Belichick are
Speaker 1: masters of the defer. And what I mean by that
Speaker 1: is getting the opportunity to get a double dip. They'll
Speaker 1: hit you with a score before the halftime, and they
Speaker 1: come back and get the ball and they'll get another score.
Speaker 1: And that, to me is the whole purpose why teams
Speaker 1: would do would defers, because you want to be able
Speaker 1: to get that take advantage of that double hit. And
Speaker 1: I would not give them that opportunity. I just think
Speaker 1: I just think in this kind of situation, I certainly
Speaker 1: would defer and hope that I get a situation where
Speaker 1: I have the ability to get a two scores back
Speaker 1: to back, to be able to push myself ahead if
Speaker 1: I'm to come from behind, or to maybe extend my
Speaker 1: lead a little bit. I just think there's too many
Speaker 1: variables that go into it, Like you can have the
Speaker 1: best laid plan, and odds are it's not gonna work
Speaker 1: out that way. I just think getting that possession after
Speaker 1: halftime is way too valuable. Even knowing that there's a
Speaker 1: good chance you fall behind early in this game, I'd
Speaker 1: still rather have a chance to flip the script after
Speaker 1: the bread. I just think the fact that this team needs,
Speaker 1: they need a fast start in the best way, they
Speaker 1: need to play with the lead. I think I think
Speaker 1: that's one way that's going to kind of hurt the
Speaker 1: Patriots and Tom Brady if they're the team that has
Speaker 1: to kind of play from behind. So let's flip that narrative.
Speaker 1: Let's say you take the ball first and they do
Speaker 1: what they've alway what they've been doing throughout the year,
Speaker 1: which is they don't get off to a fast start.
Speaker 1: Now New England gets the ball, and they're gonna get
Speaker 1: the ball at the beginning of the the second half. Now
Speaker 1: you've basically lost all of that possible opportunity to be
Speaker 1: able to either get off to a fast start or
Speaker 1: be able to have that double dip at half. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing is is that you can get the ball
Speaker 1: if you can get a couple first downs and then
Speaker 1: you punt, and then you're gonna get a pick six
Speaker 1: and then four. All right, well you can tell me that.
Speaker 1: You didn't tell me that, Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, So
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Now take the ball. When when was
Speaker 1: their last pick six? And I don't mean like Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis had to fuck for a touchdown Jones against the
Speaker 1: Ring that game. You're right, You're right, You're right Byron
Speaker 1: Jones interception it was. He gets credit for it, but
Speaker 1: it was still a tipped ball. It wasn't like he
Speaker 1: didn't jump on the route or anything. I think the
Speaker 1: one before that, also in the rain. Please don't tell
Speaker 1: me the last two Miami, Rolando McClain, the rain. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fate. It's gonna happen, like Rolando McLain. Well, stay
Speaker 1: on topic. Then, will the Cowboys win the turnover battle
Speaker 1: this week final question. No, No, they're not gonna win
Speaker 1: the No, nothing suggests that they will. They don't take
Speaker 1: the ball away, but they'll get a pick six battle.
Speaker 1: They won't win the battle, but they'll win. They will
Speaker 1: win the defensive points battle. They're gonna get at Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess I have to put that into my gut
Speaker 1: feeling though, right interception Cool, what are we doing another brand? No? No,
Speaker 1: heres we're gonna do. Here's gonna do. We're gonna ahead
Speaker 1: and get our predictions here because the show's supposed to
Speaker 1: be over back, you're gonna say I thought were out
Speaker 1: of time. Yeah, we're gonna go and get our predictions.
Speaker 1: Let's go around and say, well, I won't ask Gamber first.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start with Dave. Dave, you give us your prediction,
Speaker 1: and then we'll move around the table. I can come
Speaker 1: up with a pretty good argument for why the Cowboys
Speaker 1: could win this game. The Patriots offense is rickety and mediocre,
Speaker 1: and I think the Cowboys defense matches up really well.
Speaker 1: We saw the Patriots give up a lot of yards
Speaker 1: and a lot of points to the number two offense,
Speaker 1: and now it's the number one. I get all of that.
Speaker 1: For me, it just comes down to trust, Like, can
Speaker 1: you go on the road against a good team that
Speaker 1: doesn't make mistakes in a very you know, intimidating environment
Speaker 1: and play that clean and that efficiently and nothing we've
Speaker 1: seen through ten weeks suggests that they can. You know,
Speaker 1: the last you know, they went to Detroit, they played sloppy,
Speaker 1: they won because Detroit's not very good and they were
Speaker 1: playing backups at important positions. They went to New York
Speaker 1: and needed three and a half quarters before they really
Speaker 1: you know, got on top of a bad Giants team.
Speaker 1: They lost to the Saints. Where else if they lost
Speaker 1: to the Jets on the road, how can I in
Speaker 1: good conscience just be like, well, they haven't been this
Speaker 1: all year, but they're gonna go up and do this
Speaker 1: against the best team in the league. It's totally possible.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's crazy for thinking it could happen.
Speaker 1: I just don't trust them, and I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: all will find a way to pull it out. It'll
Speaker 1: be a really good game. I'm thinking like twenty four
Speaker 1: to twenty. Yeah, the defensive minded type of deal. I
Speaker 1: would be very, very impressed if the Cowboys run wild
Speaker 1: on them the way the Ravens did would be awesome,
Speaker 1: but that would be really impressive. I think turnovers are
Speaker 1: I make the difference Cowboys of you know, in eight
Speaker 1: of ten games they have one and against this defense,
Speaker 1: I could see two and that'll probably make the difference.
Speaker 1: Amber Um, just like Dave, I can see it going
Speaker 1: either way. I could see the Cowboys winning this game.
Speaker 1: But I think at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 1: gonna come down to which defense can do more, and
Speaker 1: that will be what the Patriots are gonna be doing
Speaker 1: if regardless of the Cowboys limiting their own mistakes, I
Speaker 1: just don't think it will be enough for them to
Speaker 1: come out of with the victory from over there. But
Speaker 1: they lose twenty seventeen m all right, Nick, twenty eight
Speaker 1: seventeen Dallas, I think that they will outplay them. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say that they're a better football team
Speaker 1: right now, but I think that the Patriots I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we we looked at it yesterday. They haven't
Speaker 1: been faced with an offense like this is as long
Speaker 1: as the Cowboys can, you know, it's a game where
Speaker 1: the offense can can do some things. Hopefully the weather
Speaker 1: doesn't isn't too permitting there. But I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are gonna win this game just because I've thought it
Speaker 1: for a long time. I'm not gonna change. I just
Speaker 1: think they're gonna win. They're gonna win twenty eight to seventeen.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be the better football team in this game. Um,
Speaker 1: they won't have the better record when it's over, but
Speaker 1: they will be the better team. And I don't think
Speaker 1: it's gonna even be I mean, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be that close. I really, I really don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to be a homer. I just I see
Speaker 1: this game. I think the Cowboys will outplay them in
Speaker 1: this game, and they will see they this won't be
Speaker 1: a good matchup for the Patriots. It'll be a good
Speaker 1: matchup for the Cowboys and they win. I hope you're
Speaker 1: right in a way that this like this could be
Speaker 1: so annoying, and obviously, I mean I won't be annoyed.
Speaker 1: I want them to win, but if they're can't. I mean,
Speaker 1: if they if they play up to their potential, they
Speaker 1: can beat this team, and they could probably beat them
Speaker 1: by double digits if they're really firing in all cylinders.
Speaker 1: And it'll be annoying because it's like, why do you
Speaker 1: have to be playing the Patriots to play like this?
Speaker 1: You're right, and that's the part that's that's the part
Speaker 1: that is so Cowboys all right, because you think think
Speaker 1: about it. And this is where I've been all weeks
Speaker 1: saying I'm not picking them. They're not gonna let me pick.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pick them. But then I look at it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've seen this story before. I've seen these
Speaker 1: games where it's like all of the odds are against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. There's no way anybody believes they actually will
Speaker 1: win it. And what I mean by that, it's just like,
Speaker 1: if you look at it logistically, there's no reason to
Speaker 1: say the Cowboys win. And then the Cowboys go on
Speaker 1: the road and they win, right, that's just kind of
Speaker 1: I've seen this picture before, I've seen this movie. I
Speaker 1: know how it can turn out, and I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are good enough to be able to do it.
Speaker 1: I just don't have faith that, based on everything I've
Speaker 1: seen this year, that it actually will happen. But I
Speaker 1: think I'm more and more sorry to come around to say,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Derek Eagleton's about to pick the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to listen, Garret, but never mind, like you know better,
Speaker 1: and so and so, I'm gonna throw you all off
Speaker 1: and tell you I am gonna pick the Patriots. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a really close game. Pad So,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a close game. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be much scoring. I think the weather's
Speaker 1: gonna be such that it is just gonna be a
Speaker 1: flat out, just beat down. Both teams just kind of
Speaker 1: struggling to really get much going offensively. I think it's
Speaker 1: an end score of thirteen ten. I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: end up pulling it out, though I'm gonna be so
Speaker 1: mad when we're in here on Monday next over here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no I'm not. But I'll tell you this. If the
Speaker 1: Cowboys win this game, I'll just go I'll give you
Speaker 1: one one further. I will pick Buffalo. I promise you
Speaker 1: that if they lose, if they beat the Patriots, they're
Speaker 1: not That's the Cowboys way, That's what That's why I've
Speaker 1: done this from the start. I will say this, this
Speaker 1: is a show me game. I would be very happy
Speaker 1: to be wrong on this. Yeah, and I honestly think
Speaker 1: it would not shock me. Like, honestly, it would not
Speaker 1: shock me if they win, honestly, they went by two scores,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me because I think this team, I've
Speaker 1: been saying it since training camp. I think this team
Speaker 1: has enough talent to do it. They just haven't shown
Speaker 1: it to us yet. And so I'm at a point
Speaker 1: now where I'm like, all right, show me exactly, make
Speaker 1: me want to pick that in the future, because you
Speaker 1: haven't shown me yet. Show me you can do it.
Speaker 1: When the Cowboys win this game and they show you,
Speaker 1: I'll be picking Buffalo and gonna write my story before
Speaker 1: I break my arm patting myself on the back. But
Speaker 1: I will write my articles first, yeah, and then pick
Speaker 1: the Bills and to win. All right, guys, appreciate you
Speaker 1: join us. We're back on Monday. We'll tell you what
Speaker 1: and right and wrong for the Cowboys till then. For
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