WEBVTT - Comedians: Ed’s Funniest Friends 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:08.639 Hello, snaffligans. You know, comedy is hard, Like people think 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.360 it's just riffing and making jokes, but sometimes it's like 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:15.240 pulling teeth. I mean, some of us have literally pulled 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:17.880 our teeth trying to be funny. But there are comedy 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:21.640 professionals out there who are just consistently crushing it, and 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:23.640 I have been lucky enough to rope in a bunch 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.079 of them on this season of Snaffoo, whether it was 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:30.200 Nick Kroll waxing poetic about his family puking tuna sandwiches 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.920 on a deep sea fishing trip, or Ginny Slat telling 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:37.680 us about how susceptible she is to getting roped into cults, 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:42.879 or Jordan Klepper reflecting on Donald Trump's deep and desperate 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:47.519 need for a hug. This episode, I have gathered up 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:51.280 the comedians of Snaffo and I'm thrilled to share it 0:00:51.320 --> 0:01:01.640 with you. Listen, laugh, and enjoy. Do you have any 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:06.800 major snaffoos from your life that you would like to share? 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.360 So I was away with my whole family. 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:14.440 We were in I think Puerto Rico on a family 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.640 vacation around I think, you know, like Christmas vacation, and 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.360 so my dad thought that a cool thing to do 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.000 would be to organize a deep sea fishing trip for 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:28.520 my mom's birthday. Because my dad knows nothing about what 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:34.120 is my mom would enjoy. So they packed us like 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:38.000 the hotel packed us a bunch of like tuna sandwiches, 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.640 because you know, Puerto Rico is famous for its tuna 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:47.000 fish sandwiches. My family ranged from about eight to fifteen, 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:51.080 four of us my parents and you're the youngest, right, 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.280 I'm the youngest. Yeah, you're eight. I'm eight or nine 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.280 years old. And we get on the boat. We're going 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:03.520 out to the deep sea and the waves are horrible, 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:08.600 like we later found out that a tanker had capsized 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:13.600 that day in the Atlantic, so the waves were massive. 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:18.000 We were just getting hummeled and we all were sitting 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:24.119 there and the entire family puked our tuna fish sandwiches 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:29.079 out all over all over the place, except for my dad, 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:33.880 who just sat in the captain's chair gripping like the 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.919 chair turning. I'd never seen, you know, when people say, 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.400 like he turned green, like I've never seen it really 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.400 since before since, but my dad turned fully like like 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:51.120 a chartruse, and all of us just absolutely ramped all 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:52.480 over this boat. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.320 And it was like happy birthday, Mom. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:02.800 This is this is perfect And the best part is, 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:11.720 like a tuna fish sandwich. Sandwich smells horrendous to begin with, fresh, 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.840 like a fresh sandwich right out of the Deli's like 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:19.240 it's kind of a gross thing already, and then to 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:23.960 eat it and then to regurgitate it is a is 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:29.040 just an unthinkable stench. It's not ideal. No, are you 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.680 ready to jump in, Nick Kroll? 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.839 I'm I'm strapped into the captain's chair. 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:39.720 The waves are big, I've finished my tuna sandwich and 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:40.600 I'm ready to go. 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.280 All right, let's do it, Let's do it. I hope, 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.160 I hope this story is good enough to get you 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:51.640 to toss that sandwich. So there's another kind of trip 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.360 that I feel like you're an expert in that I 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.320 I just am not, And I want to know more 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:59.240 about Will you sell me on microdosing hallucinogens. 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.400 I just feel like it's you know what, the best 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.680 way to describe it is, we just took some LSD 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:06.240 me and my friends when we went to these ice 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.000 caves in Pemberton, and I would say the best way 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.720 to describe it is it puts an exclamation point on 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:12.240 whatever experience you're having. 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:13.160 So if you're. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.279 Outside, especially if you're in some sort of cool nature environment. 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.440 We were in a glacier in a cave underneath a glacier, 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.200 so that was pretty cool, and it just kind of 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:26.200 makes you really sit and appreciate whatever experience you're having. 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.960 It adds a little giggle too to the situation, which 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:30.000 is always welcome for me. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.080 I like to laugh and like to not be, you know, 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.760 taking myself too seriously. But it's just an accentuation of 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:37.680 life and it kind of makes. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.719 You have a little bit extra gratitude, which. 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.279 Is one of the aspects that I don't think people 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.880 talk about enough. It makes you really grateful to be 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:45.960 exposed to the things that we're exposed to. Even if 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.360 I go skiing for an afternoon with my girlfriends up here, 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.200 you know, and if I take a microdose, it's like 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.640 I spend more time looking at the trees, looking at 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.200 the view, looking at all the beauty that's surrounding me, 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.160 rather than just you know, kind of being in your head. 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.320 You kind of it gives you a release. I feel 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.040 like the whole world needs a microdose. 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.800 I am very interested in this. Now, would you also 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.360 advocate the occasional macro dose. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:08.080 I would. 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:08.640 I would. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:10.960 It really depends on your personality and how much you 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.760 can handle. But those years of me and the macro 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.040 dosing that was like years and years ago. Now I 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.760 like just a little punch, like like I like a 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.160 little an MDMA they do. Everything's a microdose now, so 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.359 you don't have to be scared to do it, you know. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:26.760 And also I would like to say, you know, not 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:30.760 everybody gets along so well with drugs I do. We 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.120 have a good working relationship, so I know what my 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.440 limits are. I've done lots and lots of testing, so 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:38.279 I know exactly what's going to work for me and 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.679 what isn't. And in Canada they have the cleanest drugs, 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:41.800 so that's so yeah. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.240 So I'm a big advocate of that. 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.799 I think it helps a lot of people and helps people, 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:47.760 you know, in more serious ways than it's helping me. 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.359 And I love sharing my drugs too. I love giving 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:50.839 them away. 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.200 My whole tour is basically about me traveling around the 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.520 world handing out LSD to strangers. 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:02.360 That's so great. You're just you're like them. You're the 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.600 pied piper of my books. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.440 I like to think of myself as a Shirpa. I 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.760 expect it, you know, coming from me, but that's where 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:10.760 I'm at in my life. 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:15.400 I honestly, you're so transparent in everything that you think, 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:19.640 feel and believe, and I I think in many ways 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:23.599 you are like an aspirational figure for a lot of 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:27.600 people because of just how just how much you just 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:31.120 how in touch you are with yourself, which I think 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.120 a lot of people are. But then you are also 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.799 just an open book and like you don't hold back 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.960 when it's when you've got something like difficult to say, 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.919 and you also don't hold back when you have like 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.880 these sort of joyful, fun expressions and it's it's awesome. 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.840 So keep doing what you're doing. Thank you, Ed, I 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.599 appreciate that. Thank you. So the coach itself was a 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:01.520 loaner from Axel von Farson the younger who happened to 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:05.120 be uh. This is debated, but many think he was 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:10.080 actually Marie Antoinette's dashing Swedish lover. What is documented is 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.600 he sent her tons of flowers over the years. We 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.560 have an artistic rendering of Axle here. Let's take a 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:18.960 gander at this this guy. Oh wow, look at those peepers. 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:26.320 Yeah right, you mean what not sure? I'm not sure. 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.840 What I think the person that painted his picture did 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.320 a pretty weird job. It looks like he looks like 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.560 you know when sometimes people wear those George Washington masks, 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.360 like like they have George Washington, you have your own 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.000 face on the bottom, and then you like put George 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.680 Washington over your like you know where a raccoon mask 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:46.000 would be. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.640 Those look like two different faces. Yeah, no, you're right. 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.960 But what I do love about this he's so smug, 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.480 Like he's so he's like so smarmy and like you 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.720 can get like the sex appeal of someone like that. 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.840 Oh my gosh, you could get lost in those eyebrows. 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:09.640 That's a look of placid, perverted, deliberate entitlement. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:10.480 Yeah. 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.280 Actually, there's one last little epilogue here. This is kind 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.200 of fun, a little post credit scene if you will, 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.800 because I know you're curious about the last big old 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.920 danglin thread here. What happened to our Swedish boy toy 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:29.240 axel Von person for sure? Yeah, okay, well he himself 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.679 was killed by an angry mob when he was mistakenly 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:38.160 accused of poisoning the Swedish prince in eighteen ten. Wow, 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:42.480 but yeah, angry mobs were a real big deal at 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:42.959 this point. 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:47.319 They're really scary. I mean we had one recently in 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:51.000 our nation. It's scary. Yeah, they're scary. 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.120 They don't generally make good decisions. 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:54.760 No. 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.360 I read somewhere a quote I wish I could remember 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:02.320 who to attributed to. Uh, the intelligence of a mob 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.959 is that of the dumbest person in the mob. M 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.680 so like the behavior, like an entire mob behaves as 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:12.840 the dumbest person in the mob. 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.719 Actually, I was just thinking about like it. 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.880 For some reason Americans were able to be totally silent 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:21.959 while someone rolled through town that they didn't like that, 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.319 Like when I said, we'd never be able to do it. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.280 Like, I was fully imagining. 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:31.040 Myself in the in the silent crowd, not being able 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:32.080 to stop myself from. 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:36.679 Being like who farted? Like just like that. 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:41.599 It's so tempting to disturb, you know, the stillness. I 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.280 think I would be the weakest there was, the dumbest 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.679 person in the in the mob. I'm the person that 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:51.559 changes us from a core cohort into like a freak out. 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:56.080 Could you ever see yourself being swept up in a mob? 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.360 I think it's emotionally yeah, because I feel it's one 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.760 of those things that we all think like we're that 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.679 were It's sort of like cults, right. Everyone says like 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:09.480 I could never join a cult, like I would never 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:13.559 fall for that in saying I'm too good you would. 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:15.959 I don't think I would be in a mob because 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.640 I don't consider myself to be like an impulsive person 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.079 and I don't have like a sort of you know, 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.520 like the switchblade of a temper that comes out. 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:26.160 But I really love. 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:28.480 Friendly groups. 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:29.240 I love cooking. 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.719 I love it when people are like trying to help 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.480 each other actualize their dreams. And I like it when 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.000 people like are dedicated to each other. And a lot 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.880 of times cults are like non violent. I used to 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.600 have a stand up bit about this actually about how 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.679 like I would totally get drawn into the into a 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.480 cult because like, I like all the things that they do, 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.920 except I don't like having to be naked in a 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:49.880 group of people, and I don't like having to do 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.120 like oral sex to like a very very elderly person 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.800 who has a long beard, which I feel like they 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:57.440 make you do, like the head of the cult. 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.640 That is that's in the cult cult by laws. There's 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:02.920 usually some guy. 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.679 Who's like, you know what, Actually, a lot of the 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.520 more interesting members of the cult are doing ye. 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.200 Yes, oh wait, why haven't you you've fallen into a cult? 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.280 Then there are lots of them out there. There are 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:19.400 lots of great options. 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.199 Hey, I've got a strong family, really great friends that 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:23.960 are like no, no, no, no, no, no no, don't 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:24.640 don't go in there. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:30.960 Good answer. I also think that you are a inquisitive person, 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:35.319 and you're someone who like you're you're not only very 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:41.800 intelligent and sort of like educated, and you've taken it 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.280 upon yourself to learn about the world and learn about people. 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.520 And I think that is some of the best armor 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:53.640 against these kinds of group think or indoctrination of some kind. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.920 The minute you start asking questions, even with genuine curiosity, 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.880 not even like an accusatory like wait a minute, but 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:02.679 you're just sort of like, now, hold on, why do 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.040 you think I should I should blow that old man 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.760 with a beard? Like what's the reason? Like why are 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.319 we getting what we have to do? 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.640 That though, like you know, like if we're all going 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.120 to transcend and like you know, have clear minds, like 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:16.800 why would we need to do that. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:18.760 Yeah, and you know what is a good place to 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:19.760 start for me. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:24.400 Sometimes it's like I will ask myself for sometimes other people, 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:25.920 like if. 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.000 This were a movie, who would you be? 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.199 And like what part of the story, Like would it 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.199 seemed like a good story, If this were a parable, 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.559 if this were like a religious text or a fairy tale, 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:40.040 who would you be? 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.719 Who would they be? Yeah, who would they be? You know, 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.839 it's a great question, who would they be? I think 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:53.439 you're onto something really quite elegant, which is that stories, 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:58.880 movies parables the sort of broad whatever gestalt of human storytelling. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:03.920 It is rooted in fundamental values, right, like a sense 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.760 of right and wrong. My kid loves The Lion King, 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.839 and so I've gotten very deep into the sort of 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:16.360 like Lion King universe, and that is a movie where 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:22.000 good and bad is so clearly delineated, and bad is 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:26.360 portrayed with Nazi symbolism totally. 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:31.800 I meant when he sings, be prepared, that is, those those. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:38.080 ENAs are literally goose stepping. In nineteen eighty six, Bosky 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.959 was invited to provide a commencement speech at the University 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:46.240 of California at Berkeley has School of Business. And this 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:51.240 is where that speech that was the inspiration for Gordon 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:55.559 Gecko's infamous framing was derived. But it's not exactly the 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.880 same as Gordon get Goos. What he said is greed 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.760 is all right. By the way, I want you to 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.920 know that I think greed is healthy. You can be 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:10.160 greedy and still feel good about yourself. This sounds like 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.120 a cult leader. It's weird, you know what. It has 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.480 echoes of this this uh, this, all this stuff emerging 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:20.800 from both the Christian nationalist movement and Elon Musk where 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:25.440 it's like empathy is bad, right, yeah, yeah, this is 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:29.360 saying the same thing in the sort of inverse. Greed 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:30.920 is because self interest is good. 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.640 It's very and randy in that way, like it's just 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:38.760 it's very un Discard the seven deadly sins and move on. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.760 Greed is okay, it's fine, right, fine, right right. Yeah. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.800 The Bible literally tells you that this is a deadly sin. Yeah, 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.680 it's one saying this. This is destructive to you personally 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:51.960 and to all of people. But if you want to 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:55.480 have an elevator in your house, you gotta have a 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:56.200 little bit of it. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.600 Yeah, this is the I love the last sentence. You 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:08.000 can be greedy and still feel good about yourself. That's awesome. Yeah, Okay, 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:09.840 so all of this is going on, and all of 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:15.600 a sudden record scratch, just months after riding high, it 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:19.680 all unraveled. On November fourteenth, nineteen eighty six, Ivan Boski 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:24.120 pleaded guilty to conspiring to file false trading records, which 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:28.400 is a complicated way of saying insider trading. Okay, Basically, 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.360 Time magazine put his grinning face on the cover and 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:35.640 dubbed him Ivan the Terrible, which is a little derivative 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.680 but still better than Ivan the Bum from the Father, Sure, 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:46.080 and not as good as Ivan broke Ski. Right, that's right. 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.880 One minute, this guy is Wall Street Royalty, the next 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.920 he's a cautionary tale and the high roller era was over. 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:57.640 He is headed to prison. Do you think that repeated 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:05.600 success always turned people into egomaniacs or like just disasters? 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.320 Is it possible to remain humble? I think it's. 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:13.760 Possible to remain humble based on I think how much 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:19.880 you've acquired as a person before you've reached that success. 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:22.680 For instance, I think a lot of people in our 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:27.640 industry who find fame or fortune later in their careers 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:32.080 tend to be so much a little more chill and 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.640 fully aware that life is fickled. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:35.240 And it can go away. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.360 And yesterday I was doing this job, and today I'm 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.640 grateful I've got this one. But I think when you 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:42.800 have it at a young age, and nothing against those 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.600 people that get at a young age because they are 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:49.080 missing that that sort of educational step. I think a 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.720 lot of times they can come off as awful people, 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.680 and maybe it's something happens and they turn a corner 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.200 and they change. But you definitely see it in people 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:01.280 who come from a certain background. I think it's just 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.600 learning the value of things, for sure. But I think 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.680 people can remain humble. I tell people all the time 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.760 that like friends back home or people who ask me 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.520 if I've worked with someone, they always want to know 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.720 if someone's a jerk. I go, I gotta be honest, 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.399 It's very seldom I run into someone who I really 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.760 think is just kind of a piece of shit. I go, 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.800 for the most part, everybody's just at their job, whether 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.720 they're wildly famous or not, and they're just trying to 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.720 do the job and then go home and hang out 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:37.040 with their family. It's just kind of our universal situation. 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:41.639 Well, you know what that means, Rory, what that means you? 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:47.120 You're the piece of shit? Oh my god. Shit, if 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.879 you can't actually see how much other people are a 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:51.880 piece of shit, it means you're a giant piece of shit. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:55.639 Ah fuck. I just thought they were so fun. I 0:17:55.760 --> 0:18:00.800 looked up to all of them. Have you ever heard 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:02.560 of Harding's Ohio Gang? 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:03.760 No? 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:04.879 All right? Should I have no? 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.680 As a Michigan boy. As a Michigan boy, don't. We 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.280 don't give much respect to anybody from Ohio. So perhaps 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.679 it's not my own ignorance, it's just my own prejudice. 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.760 Yeah, there you go. Yeah. So this was the nickname 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.119 for some of Harding's appointees, basically because he'd hired or 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.720 appointed so many of his buddies from his days in Ohio, 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.560 and a lot of them were ruffling feathers and drumming 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:27.520 up scandals from all angles, from influence pedaling to selling 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:31.920 illegal permits for confiscated government alcohol. These dudes were just 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.679 awful basically, So it kind of makes sense that Albert 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:40.400 Fall and his oily mustache twirling fit right in. And yes, 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.200 if you recall the photo earlier, Fall had a big 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:48.000 old snot mop o handlebar. 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.639 Yeah, I mean, even if we're besmirching the guy, I 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.200 don't think we want that image in our head. 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:54.840 I mean it's funny, but it's gross. 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.280 It's funny, but yeah, it's one of those things. It's 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.640 like moist. You're like, Okay, that might be the right word, 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:00.560 but I don't want to hear it. 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:02.600 So President Harding said at the time, I have no 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.080 trouble with my enemies. I can take care of my enemies, 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:09.640 all right. But my damn friends, my goddamn friends, they're 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:14.119 the ones who keep me walking the floor nights. Now. 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:17.840 That's very godfathery, that is. I thought you really leaned 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:19.520 into it too in the performance that it was nice. 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.960 Yeah, my friends just when I think out, they pulled 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.040 me back in who the Ohio Game? 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:30.360 I thought I made that clear. I do wonder though, 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.000 like someone you know, you look at these presidents, whether 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:35.600 it's a Trump or a Barack Obama or somebody, You're like, 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:39.359 how many good, like close friends are they able to 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:43.119 maintain at that At that point, I would think someone 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:46.480 like Trump is like so hard to get close to 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.320 and so hard to sort of like feel a sense 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:52.359 of trust with, even if you're if you match his 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:56.440 core values whatever they are, Like, it just seems I 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.960 don't know, they're so their their life is so public 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.040 and it's so committed to the public eye. 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.159 Yeah, I mean I think, like, yeah, the usage of 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.760 a friend as somebody who you could truly be honest 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:12.040 with and empathize with and you could like be vulnerable with. 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.800 I see people like Trump who sees almost everybody as 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.960 like a means to an end. Everything has a loyalty test, right, 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:22.639 and even things you know not to smirch any relationships, 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.720 but those don't seem to be the most friendly and open. 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.520 Those seem transactional as well. And you're like, oh, what 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.600 happens to a human who doesn't have a like an 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:36.400 emotional sounding board or compatriot that isn't tied up into 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:37.720 your own personal success? 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:39.520 Are you expressing it? Are you? Are you starting to 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:43.520 express some some deep compassion for Donald Trump? Oh my god, 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.000 I've stumbled on it. We've We've created a monster. I 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.359 just want to give him a huge That's what probably 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:52.160 all he needs. Jordan didn't give a hug. Yeah, group bug, 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.440 come on, let's do it. Let's let's break through this. 0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.880 You could be a better person. Part of what makes 0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:03.360 you podcast so fun to listen to, and I think 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.280 it also makes you such a great guest as on podcasts, 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:13.120 is you have an encyclopedic memory for quotations and citations. 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:16.120 And I wonder, and I have the memory of a goldfish, 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:17.960 like I can't remember any I can't even remember the 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:22.320 podcast I did last week, And so I wonder, is 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.080 there a process to that? Do you take notes or 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:28.159 is it sort of effortless? Like what is the you 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:29.119 know what's funny about that? 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:31.399 You and I have talked about that before, because I 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:34.080 remember it being meaningful, a meaningful compliment to me the 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:38.000 last time we spoke about it. It is from effort somewhat. 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:41.200 I'm a big highlighter and I write things on my 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:44.600 bathroom mirror. You get white chalk markers, and I write, 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.320 what's funny is I have all these quotes on my mirror, 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.040 things that I try to hold in my heart. But 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.359 every once in a while I'll also write, like a joke, idea, 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.840 oh cool, So right now my mirror says like what's 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:57.720 wrong with right now? If you don't think about it? 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:01.320 And then like right beneath it, it says plan B 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:07.600 pill But for food. They have that it's called xlax. 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:12.439 Oh my god, that's so I'm now in picturing your 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:16.320 your home is like is very much serial killer vibes 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:18.680