1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans, This one's 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles and only 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: the truth lives here twelve Apostles Apostles. I'm George Rice, Sir, 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: He's Ralph Ampston and this is the Pack twelve Apostles. 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: A lot to talk about today last week in recap, 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: previewing this upcoming week, pile ranking to everything else. But 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: we will start today though, with the fact that the 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: Big tent, well Big twelve excuse me, has a new 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: TV deal and it's gonna pay the schools thirty one 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: to thirty three million dollars per per year. And now 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: if you listen to everybody talking Ralph, they're talking about 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: that this is now going to like is this enough 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: to now influence the corner schools to jump to the 14 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: Big twelve? Yeah? I get um, this is where I 15 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: would have to plead ignorance and maybe maybe some people 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: identify with where I'm coming from here. But I thought 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: the Big twelve getting a deal without anyone having already 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: jumped over meant that the possibility was over with at 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: least for the next few years. But is there I mean, 20 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: is there something built in where the money will escalate 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: if they can convince other schools or what what are 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: you seeing that that says that the that that part 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: of it's not over, I mean is similar to the 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: Big ten deal. I would assume is that is that 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: just because it's done doesn't mean it's final. It's done, 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: but it's not final that they have an agreement on 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: based upon what the inventory that they have right now. 28 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: But such should such inventory change, then of course everything 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: is negotiable, and especially if you know Pack twelve teams 30 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: are out of their granted rights and and all of that. 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: So now the question is which Pac twelve teams add 32 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: value to the Big twelve. And if you take Arizona 33 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: over to the Big twelve, the Big twelve is probably 34 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: already I would say the best basketball conference are right now? 35 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: Right yeah, there, I mean, there's certainly um it all. 36 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: It all depends. It's like any conference where like Baylor 37 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,279 Speaker 1: emerged and the other teams that traditionally were competitive stayed competitive. 38 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: Whereas like in the Pac twelve, if a school emerges, 39 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, like Oregon State in their Final four run, 40 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: it usually means that one or two of the other 41 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: PacTel schools fell off, but you can, you can you 42 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: can point to six or seven teams in the Big 43 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: twelve in basketball that are competitive every year and three 44 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: or four that are a threat to be Sweet sixteen teams, 45 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: and that consistency I think, um, you know it's I 46 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: probably tossed up between them and the A C C. Right, Yeah, yeah, 47 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: for for sure. And there's no other there's no other 48 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: option to be to to be talking about. So now 49 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: now the question is is and their deal is with 50 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: foxing with ESPN so and they're gonna have some sort 51 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: of digital arm with ESPN three of like you know 52 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: ESPN Plus as well. Now the question is for the 53 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: PAC twelve how much money is in it for their 54 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: schools because ESPN and Fox they still need that last 55 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: window and if you're the PAC twelve, like you can't 56 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: be last window people. You mean, like that's something that 57 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: Larry Scott did to where you get some crumbs in 58 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: the daytime, but you are nighttime people where where people 59 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: aren't really going to see you as much, and you 60 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: have essentially just continue the cycle of people being able 61 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: to ignore you, not paying attention to you, detegrating your 62 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: your teams and your product because they don't really matter 63 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: to him. And yeah, or or if you are, if 64 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: that is going to be your dominant window, and I'm 65 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: with you, I don't like that it is. But if 66 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: it is going to be your dominant window, then what 67 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: you should be selling to television networks is the ability 68 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: six days out to determine which game is going to 69 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: be in that window. And it should always be the 70 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: best game that you have to offer. So if you're 71 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: forced into this corner where you have to be a 72 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: certain thing, you should be the best version of that thing. 73 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: Well well, and then that provides the the question that 74 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: John Wilner has been been proposing and just tossing it out, 75 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: and I don't think he's getting it out of thin 76 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: air about Amazon being the exclusive home for the PAC 77 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: twelve and and I don't like that because the idea 78 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: that you're not on terrestrial television is a bad idea. 79 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: And granted, now I'm a cord cutter, so I'm not 80 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: the get off my lawn, Why is everything streaming? Guy? 81 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: Like that's how I live if But at the same time, 82 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: I do understand that for a lot of people that 83 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: there's a barrier to entry. There are still tens of 84 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: millions of people that subscribed to Spectrum or Charter or 85 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: or Direct TV or you know or any of the 86 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: other like places that cause you to have television boxes 87 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: and you need to be easy like it is ease 88 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: of access. That's why the SEC was able to get 89 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: such a foothold is because of that CBS deal. CBS. 90 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: That game is on television every single place in America, 91 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: that twelve thirty game period. So so I think that 92 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: that is a big deal. Two And if you are 93 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: the pack twelve, like and you are the corner schools, 94 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: or you are Oregon or Washington, I think that it's 95 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: bigger than the money because when you have the Commissioner 96 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: Ralph talking about that U c l A Is gonna 97 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: make less money going to the Big ten, or not 98 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: nearly as much as they thought because of travel, inflated 99 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: coaching salaries and all of that, so they might as 100 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: well stay row. That sounds silly to me because yes, 101 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: they will have increased coaching costs and all of that, 102 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: but you know what, now you're coaching salaries will be 103 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: competitive and and people can't just pick up and be 104 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: like all right, look, look you're a current school is 105 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: paying you three and a half million, we'll pay you 106 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: seven you know what I mean. And and now you 107 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: will have a seven million dollar coach who is really 108 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: a three and a half million dollar coach. But if 109 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: you like him, you will be able to keep him. 110 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: If he wants to to to stay, that money won't 111 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: be the factor in him leaving, you know, I mean, yeah, no, 112 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: that makes sense. And and you know we've part of 113 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: the problem with the PAC twelve. One of the actual 114 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: the foundational issues that doesn't get a lot of run, 115 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: and people don't talk about it a lot, but you 116 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: and I know it to be true, is that one 117 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: of the reasons that the football product degraded over time 118 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve wasn't so much that the quality 119 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: of the players went down or that the coaching was bad. 120 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: It was that every time you had a good recruiter 121 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: or a good schemer as an assistant, when they were 122 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: weighing their job opportunities, it almost always made sense for 123 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: them to leave the conference. Yeah. So, yeah, it was 124 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: I can get paid four hundred thousand well, or I 125 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: can get paid five hundred thousand dollars to be a 126 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: coordinator at COW, or I can get nine hundred to 127 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: go to Michigan State or a million dollars to go 128 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: to the SEC or this, like like what are you 129 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: supposed to do in that situation? Yeah, when you have 130 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: and where the cost of living is lower, right, and 131 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: you're where you have Washington, Like losing a very talented 132 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator to go down to Austin, Texas where you 133 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: know he might not even have the tools to continue 134 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: his you know, career trajectory. Um, and he had a 135 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: really really great job at Washington. Then it becomes like, oh, 136 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: like the money is really just be rich. Yeah, it'll 137 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: be rich right right, right right, and you can always 138 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: come back to the Pack twelve because you you can 139 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: have the built in excuses or whatever. I think Amazon 140 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: might be a good idea. Um, I mean how great 141 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, but how great would it be to 142 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: just be able to, like you're sitting there on your 143 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: couch watching a three hour documentary called Wake Up Black America, 144 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: you can just pause it right in the middle and 145 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: switch over to Oregon State versus Washington State. Dude, I 146 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: see now. My My my biggest issue though with it 147 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: is that is I know that some people want to 148 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: keep the Pack twelve two together, but I don't know 149 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: how you do that when when other schools are gonna 150 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: be attractive to other conferences Oregon in Washington, No, unless 151 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: you get a slam dunk deal, they are not. They 152 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: are going to continue the pursuit of getting into the 153 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: Big into the Big Ten, And truthfully, the Big Ten 154 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: probably just didn't want to expand at that moment. But 155 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: I think that we are going to see movement even 156 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: after the the season, because well, yeah, after the season, 157 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: because why would you not Because USC and U c 158 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: l A being the only schools in the West Coast 159 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: makes no sense, makes no sense at all. It's a 160 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: problem for the East Coast schools and the Big and 161 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: it's a problem for the Pact twelve schools. The travel 162 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: like they're gonna see when they're trying to build the 163 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: schedules that it's so untenable. They're gonna be like, okay, yep. 164 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: And And then when you think think about the fact 165 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: that USC and U c l A. We're working on 166 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: this deal for a minute. It takes a minute to 167 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: get these things done and away everything out. Yeah, yeah, 168 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: I just I I was optimistic when the news came 169 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: down to the Big twelve headed deal and then the 170 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: more that I find out, maybe the less that I 171 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: should be optimistic. But it does. It does sound like 172 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve is getting close to potentially adding at 173 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: least one more school, San Diego State, and maybe right, 174 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: but does does San Diego State go to the Big twelve? 175 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: Because that would be because of the I mean, because 176 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: of the instability in the PAC twelve. Like if I'm 177 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: San Diego State, I'm not sure if I sign up 178 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: like that, Like the cool part is that I'm the 179 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: only game in town in southern California now right, Yeah, well, 180 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: well that that could be the kill show, Like what if? 181 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: What if? The way that the Big twelve ends the 182 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: Pack twelve is not by going after any Pack twelve schools, 183 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: but they're the ones to add San Diego State in 184 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 1: unl V all of a sudden, they have the ability 185 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: to put teams on in that late window when it's 186 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: San Diego State versus that you can't yes, and that 187 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: that you can't even like now you have negated the 188 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: Pack twelves ability to expand, right, because you're competing against 189 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: a big twelve TV window and a big ten TV 190 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: window and you can't expand like that. The I hate 191 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: to be advocating for the Big twelve year, but if 192 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: I was, if I was with the Big twelve, I'd say, like, 193 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: all right, well, forget your schools. We'll get two schools 194 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: that don't expect to even get a bunch of money, 195 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: so we can get him on a long term like 196 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: ramp up deal, and then we'll be able to play 197 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: in that window while financially making it worth their while 198 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: to jump. Yeah, it would be already more money and 199 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: more people are going to be watching Iowa State play 200 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: in a Pacific time zone window than to Pacific time 201 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: zone teams. And part of that is because of what 202 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: happened to the Pact twelve and the pac twelve network 203 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: over the course of a decade. You didn't you didn't 204 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: allow the time and ramp up to build that fan fervor. 205 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: So you'll actually lose in your own window with the 206 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: ten teams that you currently have retained against a team 207 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: that you didn't get to bring in. That would be 208 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: really bad. And I'm I'm mad that we were said 209 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: this out loud and recorded it because I don't want 210 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: to give anybody ideas. Yeah yeah, um now, And there 211 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: was one other expansion thing, is Gonzaga to the Big 212 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: Twelve and i VC, Gonzaga doesn't play football, so they 213 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,479 Speaker 1: would be a basketball only member in terms of the 214 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: revenue generating sports. But I mean there are people who 215 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: are like, oh my gosh, this is to be such 216 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: a big loss. I mean that would turn The first 217 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: thing is it makes sense. It makes all the sense 218 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: in the world for Gonzaga to leave the h the 219 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: Big Scott what would in the Big West? Yeah, the 220 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: Big West? Yeah, so to the West the WCC right 221 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: West Coast yes, oh yeah, I forgot the Big Big 222 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: West turned into the WCC. So yeah, so the West 223 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: Coast Conference. It makes sense. There's so much more money 224 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: for the for Gonzaga, who is now a like they're 225 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: not an upstart program. They are a legitimate, top tier 226 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: college basketball team, and to have the money to do 227 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: so would be pretty incredible, pretty incredible, Like that's a 228 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: windfall for them. Now. Granted they're not going to get 229 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: the full share because they don't have football, but whatever 230 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: the amount is is going to be way more than 231 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: whatever they're getting from the the the w c C. 232 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Because the Big Twelve is such a good basketball conference. Yeah, 233 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: like the Gonzaga and St. Mary's. They generate the money 234 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: that floats that conference. Yep, they're They're responsible for generating 235 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: the money. If they fall off, then they don't get 236 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: the money because it's not like the rest of the 237 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: conference is going to support them. They would put them 238 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: get tournament money. They get out that tournament money. Yeah, 239 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: so they get they if they were to jump to 240 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: the Big Twelve, they could fall off a couple of 241 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: years and remain not only financially solve them, but in 242 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: a growth state, and so it could be really big. 243 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't I was confused about why I should care 244 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: because we didn't have It's not like I ever aagine 245 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: Gonzaga was coming to the Pack twelve. So the idea 246 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: of the Big Twelve adding Gonzaga doesn't like it doesn't 247 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like it hurts or that I lost 248 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: there anything. Now, if you're presented me with a scenario 249 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: that said, the Pack twelve is considering bringing on San 250 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: Diego State, which has had great football and basketball. Uh, 251 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: and in conjunction, you can either have U n l 252 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: V or you can have Gonzaga Gonzaga. I would be 253 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: sitting there considering and weighing the idea of if Gonzaga 254 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: basketball is worth U n l V football and basketball, 255 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: I would choose U n l V because football, because 256 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: if you can get the right circumstances, they can be 257 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: competitive in football, which can make more money. Well, if 258 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: they're not, that's an inconference win for everybody else exactly. So, 259 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't feel like we were losing, like 260 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: if we if we we got Gonzaga would say cool, 261 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: like that's really cool. But but but losing them doesn't 262 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: feel it's it was never like a bird in hand. 263 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: I never wouldn't feel like we lost anything. Yeah, and 264 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: if you're Gonzaga, the Big twelve has a deal, the 265 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: Pack twelve does not. There's instability. I'm not if the 266 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: if the deal is good, I'm gone, bro, I'm gone. 267 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: Like I'm not sitting there waiting to see what the 268 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: Pac twelve does with with their media deal because because 269 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: I know that they have multiple schools that are trying 270 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: to leave so and and that actually may be the 271 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: thing that like the corner schools, maybe the first people 272 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: to go. But we shall see um now onto this 273 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: week in college football in the Pack twelve, well, last 274 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: last week as a recap, we had the first game 275 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: was on Thursday, Utah, Washington State. Lord have mercy? Did 276 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: this cause some drama? Ralph? Yeah, yeah it did. I 277 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: didn't enjoy the what about is um that came out 278 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: of the drama, But there were a lot of interesting 279 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: questions asked on both sides. Well, So for you guys 280 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: that don't know, Uh, Utah did not play cam Rising, 281 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: Bernard or Um Thomas. Yeah, Tamian Thomas. And they and 282 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: the broadcast team did not know that Cam Rising was 283 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: not playing prior to the game starting and two or 284 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: for they knew about Tabian or Bernard, but not both 285 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: of them Um, and they pretended like they were playing 286 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: Cam Rising, went through warm ups and everything else and order, 287 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: and so to take you guys behind the the you know, 288 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, how things things happen when you're doing 289 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: a game on FS one or ESPN or any of 290 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: those stations which which which I've done, the s I 291 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: D usually comes up to the booth and tells you, 292 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, anything going on, blah blah blah blah blah. 293 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. They couldn't go up to the 294 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: booth in that situation because they were doing the broadcast remotely. 295 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: To save some to save some cash instead of flying 296 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: everybody up there. And this this is a COVID thing, 297 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: so you guys don't always know, but some of the 298 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: broadcasting is done remotely, and the telltale sign that it's 299 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: usually that is when there's no sideline reporter. Okay, And 300 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: they did talk to the s I d s prior 301 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: to the game, because I got a chance to talk 302 00:18:54,160 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: to Petrol's and they did not no, and nobody told 303 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: them so when So when the the walk on Kid 304 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: came out there to start, they were putting up cam 305 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: rising when when Bryson Barnes started, they put up cam risings, 306 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: graphic and everything. And it makes the broadcast look stupid 307 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: because you are a partner with the conference. So I 308 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: understand not wanting to tell them during the week because 309 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: that may change how Washington State uh uh, you know 310 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: prepares for the game. Completely understand that. But now, on 311 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 1: the other hand, at some point in time, like you 312 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: are supposed to, if it's thirty minutes prior to the game, 313 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: the the truck can fix everything. They can, they can 314 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: let everybody know, and then what can Washington State do 315 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: at that point point in time, Ralph, Nothing? Nothing but 316 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: because first, first they're probably not going to hear about 317 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: it because it's the broadcaster's job to like keep keep 318 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: certain things quiet. And Petro says, and I forgot who 319 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: was doing the game with him. They are big time professionals. 320 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: They're not going to let the cat out of the 321 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: bag prior to the start of the game. But it 322 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: does interrupt the broadcast when they're putting out Cam Rising 323 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: and then they're like, oh, yeah, wait, where where the 324 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: hell is he? Yet? The directors yelling at everybody, where's Rising? 325 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: Get the cameraon Rising? And uh, yeah, Rising is on 326 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: the sideline in a vest. So Ralph is who is 327 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: to blame in this situation? Well, that's tough because there's 328 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: multiple grievances, right, So, um, I think that it would 329 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: have been good even if you didn't want to admit 330 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: that Cam Rising wasn't gonna play for for some reason, 331 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: to maybe have had something ready to go on Brison 332 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: Barnes that you could have uh just said, nobody knew 333 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: it was hurt, not even whitting him, No, witting Whittingham 334 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: knew he was hurt, obviously, right. So that's what I'm saying. 335 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: Just communicate to your own s ID office to prepare 336 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: something on the backup to be able to give the Petros. Yeah, 337 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: just to have just to have, just to have in hand. 338 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: Because I wasn't worried about like what I figured all 339 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: of this would be argued out in the public square. 340 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: I was more worried like, oh man, you had a 341 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: kids start this game on Thursday night and nobody could 342 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: have got some hype, some shine. Yeah, yeah, you could 343 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: have helped shape the store here. Yeah, you know, should 344 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: FS one be on site? You know, I know I 345 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: watched Petros out in Laramie four days earlier, right, like 346 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: I you know, it's but on these Thursday night packed 347 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: twelve games, if if they're not going to go out, 348 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: then you have to you have to be able to 349 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: meet the um the needs of the broadcast. And obviously 350 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: the broadcast is not going to be as sharp because 351 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: they're watching on monitors, reacting like you would if you 352 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: were talking out loud while watching it. Yeah, if they 353 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: can't even see the entire like they're watching the game 354 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: and not watching the entire field, it does. So I 355 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: guess I get mad. I just get a little bit 356 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: mad when I see Utah fans being like the broadcast 357 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: is like man, we would have loved to have been 358 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: prepared for this. And you see, like gamblers be like, hey, 359 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: there's like millions of dollars on the line, and then 360 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: Utah fans respond to that by deflecting. First of all, 361 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: you don't need to be defensive like a criticism. The 362 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: criticism doesn't affect you personally as a Utah alumni or 363 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: current students, so like, stop crying. But the other thing 364 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: is you don't if you have separate issues with the broadcast, 365 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: you don't have to tie the two in. You can 366 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: say like, yeah, it would have been really cool for 367 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: our quarterback to get the kind of shine that he deserved. 368 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: It would have been really cool. It also would have 369 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: been really cool if the game wasn't being broadcast, you 370 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: know from for forever away, so that the quality of 371 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: the broadcast uh was poor. Those two things can be related, 372 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: but you're really on the same side here. You want 373 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: your backup quarterback to be able to be for the 374 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: uh the depth and breadth of the storytelling, you know, 375 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: to be there for him. You know, you're the same 376 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: school that launched a Heisman campaign for a quarterback that 377 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: had thrown like fifteen touchdowns, right, like you can appreciate 378 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: the idea that you would want somebody's story to get 379 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: out there. So it has nothing to do with like, 380 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: forget the gambling angle because that is what it is, 381 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: even though it's relevant. I'm sure there's Utah fans who 382 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: bet on Utah. In fact, I would say probably the 383 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: segment of casual gambler that got screwed the most was 384 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: the Utah fan that bet on their own team minus seven. 385 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: So like you, you have some cross over here, yes, exactly, 386 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: and I mean that that gets into gambling, injury reports 387 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: and the fact that colleges are in uh starting to 388 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: get in with gambling people. You know, we're we're gonna 389 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: see some injury reports, buddy. Um. Now onto the game though. 390 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: Were you surprised that Utah was able to win this 391 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: game with Bryson Barnes at quarterback and with with running 392 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: backs who are clearly not as good as Bernard in 393 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: Tavian Thomas. No, because I don't want to say that 394 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: the running back UH situation at Utah is dime a dozen. 395 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: But I will say Tavian Thomas was their third stringer 396 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: last year. Like they have depth at the running back position. 397 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: T J. Green had to transfer out because he couldn't 398 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: even get carries. He's out of liberty. Now like that 399 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: this is not like it wasn't surprising that would be 400 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: able to run the ball. UM. I think the fact 401 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: that they were able to limit mistakes with their backup 402 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: quarterback UH is pretty wild because you know, I know 403 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: Cam Rising has had some big turnovers that have cost 404 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: them UM, but you would figure one of the things 405 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: that would go down when you moved to your backup 406 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: quarterback is the ability the inability to you know, to 407 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: um uh protect the football. And Bryson Barnes didn't throw 408 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: an interception on seven attempts, so he was not terrible 409 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: at all, Like like he wasn't great, but he damn 410 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: sure it was not terrible. I mean, they don't beat 411 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: USC with him, but they also didn't didn't have to. Yeah. 412 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: And and the other thing that you that I we 413 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: keep going back to is this game was close, right 414 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: it was. It was at least you know, I know 415 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: at one point it was seven and the third quarter. 416 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: But for the most part this was a close game 417 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: and Washington State still again and I want to point 418 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: out the liar and fraud uh narrative going into this 419 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: season that they were going to run the ball, they 420 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: still need no attempt to do so with it with 421 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: their running backs. Yes, yes, and then Farrell got got 422 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: a one two. But so it's like seven carries by 423 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: your non quarterback. What are what are we doing here? Fam? 424 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 1: What are we doing? This Washington State team looks like 425 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: they are regressing. How the hell they I mean they 426 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: look like a bowl team. In the beginning of the season, 427 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: people are like, yeah, they should be be ranked clearly 428 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: not And you can't know you can't be an air 429 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: aid team and not score. Yeah, well, air aid teams 430 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: have trouble scoring, Like I've been trying to tell people 431 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: this air and they're not. And cam Ward is not 432 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: a great passer of the football, like like drop back passer. 433 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: He he is a a you know, a dollar general 434 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: version version of Caleb Williams. They don't play on time. 435 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: The only difference is is that Caleb Williams has a 436 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: better arm and is more accurate. That's the that's the difference. 437 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: Aside from that, they are very similar. I don't I've 438 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: seen a ton of criticism start to come uh cam 439 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: Ward's way, but I don't like I look at the 440 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: way that this offense has run there's nothing to support him. 441 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: You can just plan. So this is where I don't 442 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: think that he's the worst quarterback in the world because 443 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: their offensive line is not great, but they definitely struggle 444 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: at tackle, and they definitely struggle against the pass rush. 445 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: So you struggle against the pass rush, but you don't 446 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: run the ball. Your quarterbacks mobile, but he's not super mobile. 447 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: And he's still so everybody knows is he's throwing, you 448 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: can pin your ears back with four man you could, 449 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: you could drop seven into covery. They go to try 450 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: to run. So he's still and he still has games 451 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: like he had against Utah where he only had four incompletions, 452 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: So it's you know, I think he's good. What's funny 453 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 1: is he got these comparisons to Josh Allen right like um, 454 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: and it wasn't. The comparisons to Josh Allen were more 455 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: that uh Dicker is from the North Dakota State system 456 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: and was at Wyoming with Josh Allen, and it's supposed 457 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: to be this really big deal, special uh transcendent quarterback 458 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: transfer who didn't get a lot of hype in high school. Right, 459 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: But I think that was the comparison that you have 460 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: somebody who didn't get a chance, didn't get a lot 461 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: of hype coming out of high school. It wasn't that 462 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: they're the same player. But then you have people expecting 463 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: Cameron Ward to look like Josh Allen. But when they 464 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: think Josh Allen, they think Buffalo Bills. The truth of 465 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: the matter is Josh Allen didn't move the ball a 466 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: whole lot at wy He looked terrible at times. He 467 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: will there's definitely, there's definitely context there, but that that 468 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: thing was there right He had the absolute rocket. There 469 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: were throws that he made that no one else in 470 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: the country could make. It was one of the things 471 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: that Jay Cutler did it at Vanderbilt when they were 472 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: just losing and losing, losing. I have not seen that 473 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: particular thing from from cam Ward yet. I've seen him 474 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: be very solid, and I've seen him do a couple 475 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: of things that may make me think that he could 476 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: be special at the collegiate level. But there's not a 477 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: single thing he's done where I've been like, oh, that's 478 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: for the NFL. That's gonna be exploited at the NFL level, 479 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, But it doesn't make you wonder is that 480 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: is can he play on on schedule? You know what 481 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: I mean? Like, can't Canty drop back on his fifth 482 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: step and throw throw the ball and not wait to 483 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: see if people are are open? But Caleb, Caleb Williams, 484 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: he does that as well too. So yeah, but how 485 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: do you award criticism? But how do you know? What? 486 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: On schedule is when the defense doesn't even have to 487 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: account for anything other than a pass being thrown. The 488 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: defense doesn't even they don't even worry about it. Part 489 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: of the reason that so, so you know what, one 490 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: of the funny things that we've been saying over the 491 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks is, Oh, the Washington State's actually 492 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: eating up yards when they do give the ball to 493 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: Jalen Jenkins. But the reason is is because when they 494 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: do hand it off, the defense is taken by surprise. 495 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: And I think Washington State knows that. I don't think, 496 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: because I think if Washington State thought that they had 497 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: anything with Jalen Jenkins, he would be touching the ball 498 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: fifteen times a game instead of six. Ye well, or 499 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: or the coaches have just lost their way a little 500 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: bit with running the football. Um otherwise, we just got 501 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: to be able to agree that Washington State lied. They 502 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: are there, they are liars. Congratulations on Utah getting Bowl eligible. 503 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: I am very curious as to whether Cam Rising is hurt. 504 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: Hurt yes or or well no, no, no no, whether he's 505 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: hurt or whether he's injured yes, yes, yes, so we 506 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: I think we will have a better handle on it 507 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: this week. Um. Stanford well at Stanford. Well, Washington State 508 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: is at Stanford this week and they have Arizona State, 509 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: Arizona and Washington they are formed for will they get 510 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: Bowl eligible? I think it's shaky right now. I think 511 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: they should beat Stanford, but who did I actually no, No, 512 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: that's probably gonna be like a ten to twelve game. 513 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: Maybe it might. Um they're one and four in the 514 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: Pac twelve. Yeah. Yeah, it ain't looking good right now. 515 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: Ain't looking good? Um now, now onto the next game. 516 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: Um we had on Saturday. Uh, in the daytime, we 517 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: had Oregon Cow Oregon forty two cow. Cal added a 518 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: couple of late touchdowns in the fourth quarter after the 519 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: majority of this game frustrated, right, hey, But but then 520 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: after the game I felt better because so Cal brought 521 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: in Kai Milner in the in the fourth quarter. He's 522 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: a lot more mobile backups were we're in. The score 523 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: was forty two to ten I think, and he added 524 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: a couple of late touchdowns, so they gave up four points. 525 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: I remember I said I would come on and criticize 526 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: Oregon's defense if they gave up twenty four points. But 527 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: under the circumstances, I'm not gonna do that, like like, 528 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: and and the crazy part was is that this was 529 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: a bad game for for Oregon quote unquote bad game, 530 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: and they still put up forty two points. That is 531 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: I think the mark of a good football team. Yeah, 532 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: Bo Nicks was Offensive Conference Player of the week and 533 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: and and this was his bad game. And people will 534 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: look at those two picks, but neither one like so 535 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: one was on a hell Mary at halftime, so that's 536 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: of no consequence, Like that doesn't even technically count in 537 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: the turnover battle. And then the other one was a 538 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: dropped in in the red zone. Um, what wide receiver 539 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: drops the ball for a pick? Yeah? Yeah, no, I'm I. 540 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: I was impressed with Oregon. I was just entertained about 541 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: how frustrated were part of this because men, this game, 542 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: this game took forever, because there were ninety combined passes 543 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: or whatever. But uh I I left this game thinking that, like, okay, 544 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: so Cal is Cal's running out of gas. They're kind 545 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: of cooked. They're also one and foreign conference, but not 546 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: a lot of my other opinion changed. The thing I 547 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: worry about for Cal fans is that they saw Kai 548 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: Miller in garbage time go eight for eleven and throw 549 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, and now in their brain they're going to 550 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: create some type of quarterback controversy. You're gonna end up 551 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: putting a quarterback in who is I don't know, fifty 552 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: pounds lighter than Jack Plumber and then getting he is. 553 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: And I tell you what, Like, I've known Jack Plumber 554 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: for a long time. I've known Kai Millner for a 555 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: long time. They're from the same city, uh in Arizona, 556 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: not the same school, but I think they played against 557 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,479 Speaker 1: each other. Um. But I've grown more respect for Jack 558 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: Plumber this season than I ever had before because he 559 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: is just getting wrecked back there. I don't know if 560 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: I've seen a quarterback take a beating like Jack Plumber 561 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: has since Rudy Carpenter's senior year at a s U. Yeah, 562 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: it's pretty intense, bro. What did what did you think? 563 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: Because you I mean you saw what he had to 564 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: deal with before he ended up getting up. Yeah, yeah, 565 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that Kai Kai Milner helps that. Yeah, 566 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 1: he's definitely he's got a quick release and he could 567 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: probably get you a little more time in the pocket, 568 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be spent, you know, all over the place. 569 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: And so if you're ready to run that kind of 570 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: that kind of offense, I don't know. I left this 571 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: game watching watching Jack Plumber get beat up for the 572 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: fift week in a row, thinking to myself, like, man, 573 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: if this guy had protection, he might do some really 574 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: cool things. Yep. But I don't know, because the way 575 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: you feel about Tanner McKee, no, actually like Jack Plumber 576 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: better than that's wild. Um. Yeah, And so we talked 577 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: about bot Nicks. The Oregon Running Game was the Oregon 578 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: Running Game. Uh, cal actually put a put the clamps 579 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: on him on some on some level. They only rushed 580 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: for a hundred and seventy four yards, which is this 581 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: was also another game where you're where Oregon didn't have 582 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: it figured out in the first quarter. There's something very 583 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: interesting and I know Kenny Dillingham has gotten a ton 584 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: of praise about his ability to adjust as the game 585 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: goes on. But part of that praise comes from the 586 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: fact that Oregon really struggles to score on their first 587 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: few drives. Yeah, I think he's more filling out what 588 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: the hell happens? And then they had had some untimely 589 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 1: penalties and stuff like that. So that's cool as long 590 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: as your defense is also the first quarter, Kirk correct, 591 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: And and that's the and that's the spot that Oregon 592 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 1: has to get better at. They have to be better 593 00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: in the first quarter for by far By far Um, 594 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: next game up USC at Arizona. You have uh USC 595 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: Arizona thirty seven. This game it went exactly like I 596 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: thought it would. USC was gonna win because Arizona ran 597 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: out of talent on defense or just couldn't literally score 598 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: every single time that they touched the football, Like I 599 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams went for eleven yards, five touchdowns, huge plays 600 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: all over the place. This is exactly what I thought 601 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: was gonna happen. Ralph, Yeah, now, this this game played 602 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: out the most accurately to how we thought it would 603 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 1: be going in. Jaden Dolora got his and they scored 604 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: thirty seven points. And they had thirty or they had 605 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: twenty nine of that by the end of the third quarter. 606 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: So I actually like USC did a better job late 607 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: than um they did the rest of the game. But 608 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing about this game that made it, uh, 609 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: the only I know because I guess you have to 610 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: account for the fact that the refs are gonna get squirreling, 611 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: especially in USC games this year. UM, so you could 612 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: even say that you could have factored in the fact 613 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: that both teams would have walked away wanting to fight 614 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: the refs. That's a fact. I don't think it ultimately 615 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: affected the outcome. But if I'm if I'm USC, I 616 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: gotta find a way to get this out of my 617 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: head because I'm gonna be playing the rest of the 618 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: year with paranoia after the after a couple of the things, 619 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: um that have gone down. That thing at the end 620 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: of halftime where the clock just ran, I've never seen 621 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: like a more blatant like, oh no, we actually have 622 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: the ability to stop this game and say put the 623 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: time back, because we do it, like, yeah, they screwed 624 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: that up, but putting his hands, but Lincoln Riley when 625 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: he put his so I did get a tiny bit 626 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: of enjoyment of watching Lincoln Riley lose his mind because 627 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: it was like, buddy, what conference did you think you 628 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: were coming to? He's out the refs like are you insane? 629 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: Like what what do you mean? I'm doing the exact 630 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: job I've always done. So that's the question. Would you 631 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: rather have packed twelve revs who are incompetent at times 632 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: or sec revs who are cricket? Well, uh, I would 633 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: rather incompetence than then knowing somebody is for sure out 634 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: to get me. It's almost so if you're just looking 635 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: at the game from an entertainment purpose, it's almost like 636 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: you know, a game of Uno where somebody has like 637 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: a ROF twenty card that can be played at any time, 638 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: and so there's just always this anxiety of when is 639 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 1: this thing going to get laid down? When you know, 640 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: when is the when is the screw job gonna happen? 641 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: And and so as far as somebody who follows this conference, 642 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: the officiating bomb that goes off once every other week 643 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: is part of the entertainment. Oh yeah, when it affects 644 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: my team, it it's burned into me forever forever. What 645 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: a s U versus Washington State fifth down is never 646 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:38,919 Speaker 1: going away? I'm gonna remember it forever. Washington State when Yeah, 647 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: Washington State, USC robbing the passer call UH, Oregon Arizona 648 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: State triple overtime, non called off sides. I don't know 649 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: about that. I'm never I'm like, those those things are 650 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: just things you're never gonna forget. And I'm I'm you know, 651 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna forget USC just laving the refs run 652 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: the clock out on them on. I mean, I I don't, 653 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: I you know, I don't. I don't understand, and I 654 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: totally get the grievance. But what was funny was when 655 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: I tweeted about it and I was like, Wow, the 656 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: pact fell was really just gonna screw USC every week 657 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: on the way out, and all of the fans of 658 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: every other team in the conference that was like, I 659 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: don't care, Like USC has the absence of sympathy and 660 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,240 Speaker 1: the absence of incentive for things, and nobody cares about 661 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: U C l A. And that that's the funny part. 662 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: It's it's because of how USC fans act. But are 663 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: you concerned I would be concerned about USC's defense who 664 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: gave up thirty seven points? Oh for sure. I mean, 665 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: I've been with this has been the podcast preaching that 666 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: their defense was garbage the whole time. We've never switched up. 667 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: We said that it was going to get them bit 668 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: in one of these games. We've picked against him against 669 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,720 Speaker 1: the spread almost every single week based on the fact 670 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: that their defense. You know, um, I can't can't do 671 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: anything and AT's you know that Arizona's offense is awesome. 672 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 1: It really is. Dorrian Singer and Jacob Cowing and t Mac. 673 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: Do you think that's the best top three receivers in 674 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 1: the pack twelve? No, No, because the USC's is better. 675 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 1: To be honest, you think so, I mean, I would 676 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: I gotta give right now, I gotta give Team Mac 677 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: to edge. Well, some people might say that Brendan Rice 678 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: isn't even a top four receiver at at USC right now, 679 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: but I would say T Mac is t Mac would 680 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: probably be top three in the rotation out at USC 681 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: and he's third as oh yeah, yeah yeah, because I 682 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: would say that Todd, Todd, Washington and um and Addison 683 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: are the top two and then they just sprinkle around 684 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 1: whoever number three is? Um Now, Dorrian Singer is a freak. Though. 685 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: I think every school in America needs to uh they 686 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: really he made some good catches. Bro oh Man, you know, 687 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: you know he while he walked on at Arizona and 688 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: within like ten minutes of being there, they were like, yeah, 689 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna need to be on scholarship. Yeah, exactly. It 690 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: works like that sometimes. Now, the next game up, Stanford 691 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: U c l A thirty eight to thirteen. This game 692 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: went exactly like I thought it was gonna go. In 693 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: absolute beat down by the Bruins of Stanford. Stanford can't score, 694 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:42,959 Speaker 1: can't score. Their offense looks putrid, it's it's embarrassing. Zack 695 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: Charbonnet was incredible, hundred yards, three touchdowns. I don't even 696 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: know where Stanford goes from from here. Tanner McKee was 697 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,760 Speaker 1: eleven for twenty nine for a hundred and fifteen yards, 698 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: a pick in a touchdown. Uh. I just hate to 699 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: talk about this because I loved, like, I like David 700 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: Shaw a lot, and it doesn't feel me give me 701 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: any pleasure or any joy to just be like this 702 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: ain't working right now. They're they're down to what third 703 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: fourth string running backs. Uh, they struggle in past protection there, 704 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: receivers aren't even getting opportunities to make plays in this offense. 705 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: The defense holds up as much as it can. Um. 706 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: But once U c l A had fourteen at the 707 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,919 Speaker 1: end of the first quarter, the game was over. Yep. 708 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: You made a team that was non dimensional, have to 709 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: be one dimensional? Yeah. So. And at the point that 710 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: Stanford scored a garbage time touch down in this game, 711 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: how long had it been since they've actually put the 712 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: ball in the end zone? Oh my god, dude, grab 713 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 1: grab a snickers, bro grab a snickers. It was nine quarters, 714 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 1: ten quarters, ten quarters, ten quarters without a touchdown, George, 715 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: and to two of those games they won. How is this? 716 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: There're two in one with two touchdowns in the last 717 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: three weeks. Yep. So I mean Stanford now is three 718 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: and five. Technically they can make a bowl game. They 719 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: got they have to win three out of the last 720 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: four games versus Washington State Utah, which you're not gonna win, 721 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: Cow and b y U. I don't see it happening, 722 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: but you know, I guess stranger things have have happened, 723 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: And I think a bowl game is the only way 724 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: to save David Shaw's job. I think they're gonna lose 725 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: out the listen, there's no reason to think that they won't, 726 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,439 Speaker 1: all right, I think they lose out and I think 727 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: that it's at the end of the season. There's gonna 728 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: be two teams that are gonna be kicking themselves that 729 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: Stanford wasn't one and eleven. Oh yeah, all right, um, 730 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: and one of them is Notre Dame. Arizona at Colorado, 731 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: Arizona State at Colorado. How the hell did Colorado score 732 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: thirty four points? They got a dude they like. So 733 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: as much as Arizona State fans can be excited that 734 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,240 Speaker 1: their offense looks different with Trenton bord Gay under center, 735 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: I think Colorado should be equally as excited about Jordan Tyson. Yeah. Yeah, 736 00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:01,280 Speaker 1: he looked good five fifteen yards. Yeah yeah, that monster 737 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,879 Speaker 1: punt return. I don't know if you saw that one 738 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 1: years for a touchdown, it was like it was cool 739 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: to see. I was like, oh, Colorado has got a guy, 740 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: Like they got a real And I know I've I've 741 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: liked montanelimonious Craig, you know their situation according like saying 742 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: saying saying his name more than it's a good name. 743 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: But he's a good receiver. Uh. But I I look 744 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 1: at this game. I never thought Colorado was gonna win. 745 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 1: Um and I think that the big takeaway from this 746 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: game has to be like, oh we we either a 747 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: potentially have a star player or be USC has won 748 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: a star player that started out at Colorado, because that's 749 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: been kind of the thing is Colorado, you know been 750 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,919 Speaker 1: a Yeah, it's like the second city for people who 751 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: want to go be on Saturday Night Live. So I 752 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: don't know, I was super impressed by that. So I 753 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: want to give um some recognition to uh, to Jordan 754 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: Tyson um because Colorado scored thirty four points and only 755 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: had thirteen completions. Yea. And I want to give credit 756 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: to Trenton Borday who got the start and took that 757 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: thing over and it is by far his job. Right now, 758 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: yards man, that's the first that's the most passing yards 759 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 1: at a s U in eight years. Yepp. So that's good. 760 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: Now on to this tight end touchdowns. I love it. 761 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,720 Speaker 1: You love to see it, Ralph, you love to seeown. Yeah, 762 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,439 Speaker 1: all right now onto this week, um. You have on 763 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,240 Speaker 1: Friday night Oregon State versus Washington, Washington's favorite by four 764 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: points anything. What is the line in this game? And 765 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: who do you have the line in this game? Is 766 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: Washington minus four and a half, much closer than than 767 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: I thought would be. The Oregon States really getting some respect. 768 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: It's the battle to be ranked. The winner of this 769 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: team will be ranked next week. Oregon States ranked. Now 770 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: Washington's right on the outside looking in. Um I think that, uh, 771 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 1: I like Oregon State in any other situation. But um, 772 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: the weather is going to be pissing, bro really, yes, yes, 773 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: it is gonna be pissing. And Wendy Okay, well, who 774 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 1: who do you? Who are you taking? I'll take just 775 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: because of the home home advantage. I say Washington by seven, 776 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,479 Speaker 1: only because of the weather. I'm going with Oregon State 777 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 1: really okay, because so much of what Washington does is 778 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: depending on the past. Yes, yeah, and I think that 779 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: their past is going to be impacted in Oregon States 780 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: past defense is good okay, So yeah, they have the 781 00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: best past defense in the conference. Um now now it now. 782 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 1: This is one of I think the make or break 783 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: game for Washington, that this is going to be a 784 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 1: momentum and a and a confidence game. If they lose 785 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: this game, they'll lose two more games the rest of 786 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 1: the year. If they win this game, they'll only lose 787 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,919 Speaker 1: one more or maybe possibly a chance to win out. Yeah. 788 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: If they lose this game, then it's time to start 789 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: thinking about next season. If they win, it really adds 790 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,879 Speaker 1: a lot of momentum going in the next week. Yeah alright, Uh, 791 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: next game up Oregon at Colorado. We said the line 792 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 1: would be around thirty three and a half. It's only 793 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,439 Speaker 1: thirty one and a half. Yeah. See, ordinarily I take 794 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 1: Oregon in this game, but I think that when bo 795 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: Nix comes out of the game, they will be they 796 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: will be covering. Okay, I think that that Colorado might 797 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,919 Speaker 1: add a cheap at the end that'll bring it down 798 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: to like twenty eight points. What I'm rooting for in 799 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: this game is for uh second week, and like, I 800 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,839 Speaker 1: want you to be able to see Jordan Tyson up close, 801 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: and I want him to be I want Colorado to 802 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 1: have something to look forward to and not just have 803 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 1: it be like a forty you know, blowout awful loss. 804 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: I want I want Colorado to be able to be invested, 805 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, late in the season, like maybe there's a 806 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 1: couple of things to look forward to. They're already not 807 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 1: eligible to go to a poll game, so you know, 808 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: the people that are hanging on now are the real diehards. Yep. 809 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: The next game up cow at USC. Ha ha ha 810 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 1: are you? Is this a trap game for the for 811 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,720 Speaker 1: the Trojans their favored by twenty one and a half point? Uh? 812 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 1: What's that? Um? What's that whole thing? The unstoppable force 813 00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: and the immovable object? This is the lazy force versus 814 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:07,279 Speaker 1: the easily moved object? Like, how how much? How much? Damn? Like? 815 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 1: Is CAL gonna get in their own way of doing 816 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: damage offensively? Because they can make this one on USC, 817 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: They can make this tough on them. I don't think 818 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: that they can win, but I don't think that they 819 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 1: can make it tough like almost Yeah, same, I'm in 820 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm in the same exact mindspace as you there that 821 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: like CAL could get under USC skin the way they 822 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: got under your skin last week. Um, but there's I 823 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: do not think CAL has the capability Like Caleb Williams 824 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: would have to like throw two picks and you would 825 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: have to have some some hero plays by cow on 826 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 1: by their wide receivers on some Yeah, Caleb Willis would 827 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: have to score twice four Cal for this to be 828 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 1: in play at the end of the game. So I 829 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: will go. I think USC might actually even cover it 830 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: might be the first time you've said USC would cover 831 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: all year. Yeah, yeah, because I just don't think that 832 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,439 Speaker 1: CAL can score enough points. But USC's defense is hurt, 833 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 1: so that could be a thing there too. Where where 834 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 1: where Cow is able to run the ball better than 835 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 1: but their opposite lines, thinks so. And they're gonna get 836 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: another week of not having to play Jordan Addison because 837 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 1: he's banged up. So it'll be interesting to see if 838 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: they can keep up the if they can keep up 839 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: that same energy with the receivers that are there. I mean, 840 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 1: what receivers not going to want to leave their school 841 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 1: to go to USC to get plugged in exactly next 842 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: game U c l A at Arizona State. U c 843 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: l A is favored by eleven points. It's in Tucson. 844 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: Wilner has picked this game to be a upset, not 845 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: even a trap game, a close game. I don't see 846 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: it that that way. I think Trenton boar board Gay 847 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: probably has a decent game. But U c l A 848 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: wins this game and they cover. So the last three 849 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 1: times u c l A has gone to Tempe, they've lost, 850 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: and the last three top ten teams to go to 851 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 1: h A s U have lost. Um. I think U 852 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: c l A is tenth and one pole twelfth and another. 853 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: I don't think any of those past stentistics mean anything here. 854 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: I think that if if Dorry and Thompson Robinson is 855 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,399 Speaker 1: on his game, this isn't And I felt that way 856 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: against Oregon too. I feel that way against anybody. I 857 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: feel like if he if he is that version of himself, 858 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: he is not stoppable. But is it going to happen 859 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: on the road in Tempe? Is temps crowd even gonna 860 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 1: come out? So I don't. I'm optimistic about a s 861 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: U after what I saw from Trenton boorg Ay, but 862 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: like not to win this game, I don't. I don't think. 863 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: I think as you might cover, but I think it's 864 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: a ten point U c l A win. So I'm 865 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,840 Speaker 1: going with the Bruins here, and I understand anybody that 866 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 1: would recoil against that. But I'm so high on dtr 867 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 1: and zactual harmony right now that it's it's absurd. I 868 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 1: think that if those two are on, I just don't 869 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: see anybody stopping them. Now. Defensively is another thing, but 870 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: SU doesn't have Oregon's firepower. Yep. Washington State Stanford over 871 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 1: under forty nine, Washington State minus four and a half. 872 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm going with Washington State, but I don't trust it, dude. 873 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 1: This this game is gonna be a brutal watch. It's 874 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 1: gonna be twelve to ten. I would take the under. Yeah, yeah, imagine, 875 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't just take the under like seven times? 876 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 1: You think seven touchdowns are gonna get scored in this game? No? No, again? Right, 877 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 1: and Washington State all they do is throw and Stanford's 878 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 1: dvs are nice? Yep, I watch it. Watch it be 879 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,320 Speaker 1: like fifty already nice. That would be insane. No, I 880 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 1: would hammer, I would hammer the I would hammer the 881 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: under me too, Alright. Last game up, Arizona at Utah, 882 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 1: Utah's favorite by eighteen points. If cam Rising does not 883 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: play in this game, they are not covering. They may 884 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: lose this game. If cam Rising is not playing, it's possible. Um. 885 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: I like Arizona. I like the I I like Arizona 886 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 1: to score a lot. It's seven thirty and man that 887 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 1: that's tough. That's a tough place to play in a 888 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: perfect window for Utah, Like everything is going to be 889 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 1: going in their favor. Yeah, it's gonna be cold. Because 890 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 1: because the game's gonna start at four thirty and then 891 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,359 Speaker 1: it'll be or is is Mountain Mountain time five thirty? Now? 892 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: Not until the sixth Okay, so so yeah, so I'm 893 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: going so it'll still be dark after halftime. So I 894 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 1: am going I'm going with Arizona in this game because 895 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 1: I don't know if Cam Rising is playing, and even 896 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 1: if he is, is he a p So you're just saying, 897 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 1: you're just saying to cover right, No, no, no, no 898 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: no no. I do do think that if cam Rising 899 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 1: doesn't play that there the Arizona is gonna win. Interesting 900 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: because I think if Cam Rising doesn't play, who says 901 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: they have to pass even once? Mm hmm that's a 902 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: good question. So who are you going to? Uh oh 903 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: so so who are you picking? Utah? By seventeen? I 904 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be like damn alright, So yeah, yep, 905 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: So we will see what happens here. Guys. I'm George 906 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 1: Rice Stir, He's Ralph Amazon and this is the pack 907 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 1: twelve Apostles