WEBVTT - Nightcap - Hour 1: Thunder Win NBA Finals + Kevin Durant TRADED to Rockets 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:02.040 The volume. 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:18.720 We have a new NBA champ. 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.079 The OKC Thunder take down the Indiana Pacers one to 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.799 three to ninety seven to win their first championship. The 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:31.640 celebration is going ongoing. Shay is probably gonna win the MVP. 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:36.680 Great series. It goes seven game Tyres Halliburton goes down 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.760 late in the first quarter, and you know, and I 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.720 think that everybody's gonna say they had Halle. Maybe the 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:45.400 outcomes we would have been different, but we'll never know. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:49.720 The OKC Thunder cap off a great regular season, sixty 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.480 eight wins in the regular season and they take home 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.720 the championship one oh three ninety one over the Pacers 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.000 four to three, seven game series. What an our standing game. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.680 We have a jam packed show for you tonight. Y'all 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.040 know me. I am your favorite m Shannon Shark, my 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.880 partner and co hosts Liberty City's own Bengal Ring of 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.320 Fame Outerie Pro Bowler All Pro. That's Chad o Cho 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.959 Senko Johnson, the third member of our team, University of 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:19.840 Arkansas lum Arkansas native body raised her he yells Iso 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:25.880 Joe Johnson and joining us to cap off this championship 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:33.000 week y'all knowing University of Charlotte Finals MVP of nineteen 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.680 eighty one Series four two win over the Houston Rockets. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.760 Here years, ladies, Gentleman Cedric Cornbread and. 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.360 I really felt it was. It was a great series. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:50.880 Nobody picked Indiana. Indiana deserved so much more credit. But 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.120 you know, when you lose your best player. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.480 Chad would tell you lose your. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.760 Best player that early in the game, you were never 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.000 able to recome. I don't care what happened that. It 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.040 was more like it was at the end of the game. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.920 That's that's gonna have. My buddy Terry On kept telling 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.240 them that, no, no, they're gonna lose the best player 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.880 that can still win. When you lose your best player, 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.200 this hardness held me. I got to use one of 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.440 the chance. The goddamn man got hurt. That's what he did. 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:18.600 Goddamn hurt. 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.600 Hey, hey, Brad corn Red, I'm glad you. I'm glad 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.000 you said that, and and and that. 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.200 That speaks to the fact that obviously Joe and I 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.799 had a bet on I'm not sure if we put 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:30.280 any money. 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.519 Uh, we put a wage on him. But honestly, Joe, 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.480 if you're a real one, if you're a real one. 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.200 The fact that I got hurt, Let me, let let me, 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:38.200 let me stay, stay with me. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:46.080 Damn if you're real, if you was a real one, 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:50.760 the fact that the pacers were handicapped and Halliburton got hurt. 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.480 You taking my money knowing that the pace was handed. 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.799 And I guess, I guess I ain't a real one. 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:01.680 Oh Joe, I need run it run. Ain't trying to 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:02.160 hear that pread? 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:03.760 What are you talking about talking about? 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.120 You know what, Joe, what you're doing? 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:07.600 Sure? 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.400 Hey, remember you bring over got Please make sure you 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.600 hit that subscribe button. 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But uh, all right, 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.600 So Joe had a big win today. We'll talk about 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:23.680 that a little later. But okay, See wins his first championship. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.320 Now they do have a championship. They left the Seattle 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.120 name up in Seattle. They did win a championship. What 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:30.080 was that seventy. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.920 Denis Johnson was there, so Gun. 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.279 The Wizard, Jack Sigmua, Barvin Webster. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:37.920 There was some bad boys. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:43.080 But ok see caps off for a great regular season, 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.520 sixty eight wins in the regular season, and they finish 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:47.960 it off the way they were supposed to. 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.800 They have the MVP of the league and Shae Gilgers. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.560 And they win it one O three to ninety one, 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.560 four to three, seven game series. 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.720 Uh, Joe, I'm gonna go to you first. I thought 0:04:58.720 --> 0:04:59.320 the series. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.760 I thought the game turn in the third quarter seven 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:07.080 turnovers by Pacers, none by the Thunder thirty four to twenty. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.240 If you do a better job of taking care of 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.520 the basketball. I thought they got out of rebound. I 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.040 mean it was simple stuff. You know, you're going around 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:15.400 the two break and you let the guy punch the 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.680 ball out from the back, you get the rebound, and 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.039 then all of a sudden you lose it out of 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.760 bound on you on your own. You can't have careless 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.240 turnovers like that. As Brad said, when you're under man 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.040 your best player is down you nearly You need to 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.680 play a damn near perfect ball game, and the one 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:33.040 thing you can't do is turn the ball over. Joe, 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.440 when you saw this early in the game, Tyre's Halliburton 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.240 seemed like he had it going early three D threes, 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.120 was playing extremely well. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:41.720 But we talked about this. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:43.920 I said, man, we gotta be careful with this calf 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.360 because the same thing they said about kd Oh. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:47.039 It's this calf. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.920 It's his calf, and you saw him with to make 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.240 that certain burst and then all of a sudden, you 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.479 could see it when they showed it slow much into 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:59.320 the replay that they roll up, and it's very, very unfortunate. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.840 He's probably gonna be gone until the twenty twenty sixth 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.040 season because it happened so late. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:05.080 He's not coming back. 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:10.640 But Okay, see Joe, they were the best team from 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.599 start to finish, and they feel that they did it 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.400 was Hey, look, it's been a great series. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:14.640 Man. 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.800 First off, we gotta give we got to get a 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:17.560 PACER's credit. 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:21.640 You know, I'm talking about throughout the whole postseason Ocho Bred. 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:23.919 You know, they've been obviously resilient. 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.760 They've been counted out and still been kicking and finding 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.640 ways to win ball games. I felt it was gonna 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.560 be tough for him to win this game when Halliburg 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.040 went out, But I thought he came out aggressive and 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.920 you know, uh, Indiana came out like they you know, like. 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.880 They knew what time it was. I thought him got 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:39.880 him was pretty aggressive. 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.080 They were making shots and it was a Tito title 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.360 game early and like you said that, in that third quarter, 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:46.880 all of a sudden, you lose it out of battle 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.080 on your own. You can't have careless turnovers like that. 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.599 If Brad said, when you're under man, your best player 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.280 is down you nearly. You need to play a damn 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.080 near perfect ball game, and the one thing you can't 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.159 do is turn the ball over. Joe, when you saw 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.440 this early in the game, Tyree's Halliburton seemed like he 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:07.600 had it going early. Three D three was playing extremely well. 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.400 But we talked about this. I said, man, we gotta 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.680 be careful with this calf, because the same thing they 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.960 said about kd oh, it's his Calf's his calf, and 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.040 you saw him with to make that certain burst and 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:20.440 then all of a sudden, you can see it when 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.960 they showed it slow much into the replay report, you 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.920 see that thing roll up, and it's very, very unfortunate. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.400 He's probably gonna be gone until the twenty twenty sixth 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.600 season because it happened so late. 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:32.640 He's not coming back. 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:33.560 But uh. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.440 Okay, see Joe, they were the best team from start 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.080 to finish, and they finished it off. 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:41.960 Yeah they did. It was Hey, look it's been a 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:42.840 great series. Man. 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.000 First off, we gotta give we got to get a 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.440 pace of credit. You know, I'm talking about throughout the 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:52.120 whole postseason, O Joe. You know, they've been obviously resilient. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.960 They've been counted out and still been kicking and finding 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.880 ways to win ball games. I felt it was gonna 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:59.880 be tough for him to win this game when Halliburt went. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.520 But I thought he came out aggressive and you know, 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.160 uh Indiana came out like they you know, like they 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:06.240 knew what time it was. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.120 I thought him Yakam was pretty aggressive. 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.320 They were making shots and it was a Tito title 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.680 game early and like you said in that in that 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:16.000 third quarter, the separation was they beat him thirty two 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:19.400 to ten off points off turnovers. Okay See had thirty 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.840 two points off their turnovers, and I think that was 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.120 that was the biggest difference of the game. But give 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:25.760 okay See a lot of credit. They did what they 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.360 had to do. They closed him out on their home court. Man, 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.840 it was a great series, fellas a great series. 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.960 I can't believe you then glory to God when you 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.200 were about seeing all that. That's how he always thought 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.320 that you glory to God. 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.520 You didn't even go there. 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.319 I think it was it was a tremendous series. It 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:48.000 was a series I think Carlile coached his ass off. 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:52.280 I think, man, Jim McConnell was what Joe would say, Joe, 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:53.320 he was a water bug. 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:54.720 And I know I can hear you. 0:08:55.120 --> 0:09:01.120 I know you and your damn your house as somebody. 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.240 I know that's what happened, Oh Joe. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:07.600 When when games go like this, to me, it's almost 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:08.800 scripted at the end. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:11.920 Okay, see had nothing. 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.720 I mean, I look at Indiana, had nothing to loose, 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.600 They had nothing to lose. They played early, they played 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.719 well early, but you could see the bubble that all 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.440 the air just squabbed the bubble. When when it happened 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.400 and the entry, the same thing happened with the Celtics 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:29.959 went take them with them. It was just a matter 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.280 of time before the team was over. 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.120 Great O Joe, Man, I'm hurt. Huh, I'm hurt. 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:41.079 Obviously Halliburton coming out of aggressive as as he did, 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:46.520 I really felt and I I wholeheartedly really felt good, 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.840 not just about this game, but about them coming away 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:49.280 with that win. 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.480 And I think that would have been the outcome had 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:52.800 he not gotten hurt. T J. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.240 McConnell played very well. See I can played very well, 0:09:55.840 --> 0:10:00.000 and the fact once he went down, they were still competed. Uh, 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:00.840 they still compete. 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:01.280 You know. 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.319 They didn't get the game very close, but the turnovers 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.800 it hurt. And not only did the turnovers hurt, they scored. 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.839 I mean, the thunderwa able to score points on those turnovers. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:14.000 And I mean, it is what it is. I'm just 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.360 I'm just kind of sad. I'm kind of sad because 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:22.040 I thought Joe was a better friend in fact that 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.360 the paces were handicapped, and he still is willing to 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.040 take take that money from me, you know, it just 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.640 I mean it is Hey, hey. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.559 Joe, Joe telling you lose your job. The mortgage company 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:37.360 still want they paid. Hello, Hello, yeah, they still want Hey. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.800 Look I understand, you know. So unfortunately has happened, Oh Joe, 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.000 but I gotta tell you, bro, I'm sorry, but they 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:44.080 ain't got nothing to do with me. 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.960 You and me? Yeah got you? Yeah to no one surprise. 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.920 Shaye was just named Finals MVP, so he's the regular 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:57.800 season MVP Western Conference MVP Finals MVP average thirty points, 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.800 five and a half, persists, one point almost two steals 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.200 a game, one of the half blocked shots per game, 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.240 and he's only twenty six years of age. 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.640 I'm glad you just said that. Now, think about everything 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.880 he just named off. He's won a ring already. He 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.160 was the MVP this season. Now, we talked about this 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.160 a very very long time all throughout the NBA season. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.319 You said you would take joke of SGA now yeah 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.760 still ring? Yeah, would you still take would you still 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:23.960 take still? 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:25.679 Yeah? Because your kids got a ring too, You remember 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:26.719 your kids did all that time. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:32.040 I want to see if if your mind is yeah, yeah, okay, okay, 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.240 that's not the and that's not to take away anything 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:39.520 from uh from Shaye. Yes, sir, he's a phenomenal player, ye, 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:41.600 but I mean you talked about I mean and you 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.559 like really splitting hairs. So you're looking at Shane, You're 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.480 looking at your kids, You're looking at Gianni's. 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.240 I think I think those are the three best players. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.600 Maybe you sprinkling luc or something when he's helthy going. 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.199 But Shaye, I mean to be twenty six years of age. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.640 They brought him in. He's you know, kind of learned 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.320 under Chris Paul and then they turned the bread they 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.280 turned the organization over to a kid that. 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:08.160 Was But here's the thing you say, and when you 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.959 talk to Old Chow, the supporting cast, you look at 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.640 the best supporting cast. At the end of the day, 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.600 you can look at, Okay, see what the supporting cast. 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:19.920 B new Dog looked like he should have been playing 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.400 with the with the Cleveland Browns, the where he was 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.040 knocking guys that way. 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:26.120 He was saying to the thing. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.600 The big question we're gonna talk about Leon, gentlemen, is 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.559 this we you talk about three guys. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:33.920 Who were the m vps. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.319 When they were with the Thumbler, they couldn't get it done, 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:41.000 Hardened Westbrook and the Rent they couldn't get it done. 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:45.480 But now they've gone to a smaller, more effective lineup, 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.559 not this biggest stars, but they still won. But those 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.480 three guys to talk about that that supporting cast they 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.440 had that they should have won one or two. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.719 They getting that James hard You remember they went to 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.000 the championship, they lost to the Heat and then the 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.400 next year, for five million dollars, they let James Harden 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.200 go to the Rockets And that was kind of the beginning. 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.120 And we're gonna talk about this a little later. 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.880 Every last one of those guys that started in OKC, 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.880 somehow found a way to get to get to the rockets. 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:18.199 You know, it started with Hard, then Russ and now KD. 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.439 So we're getting that a little later. But you're absolutely 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.880 right because you look at these two teams, what do 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.160 they have bench play? Yeah, the bench players play extremely well. 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.600 They're a very deep team. You look at Obi top 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.240 and then played well tonight, but he normally plays well. 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.600 But you got mattpron he gave me twenty four. TJ. 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.440 McConnell gave you sixteen, So that's forty points. You got 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.120 forty two points from your bench. You really can't complain 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.600 like that about that. Mcconall just didn't have a good gut. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.800 He played well offensively, but the turnovers, he had a 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.320 lot of careless turnovers. To night he had seven, they 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.680 had twenty one. They had seven turnovers in the third 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:57.080 quarter when Okac really opened up the game. I mean, 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.199 because they would have a one point lead and all 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.360 of a sudden, you start the fourth quarter and you're 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:05.040 down thirteen. So you go from plus one to minus thirteen. 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:07.880 And a large part had to do with the turnovers. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.000 You lost the turnover battle in that they did a 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.280 great job of taking care of it and you know 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:16.640 this is how OKAC played. They're very active with their hands, 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:20.760 especially at home. That crowd is rockers, and you just 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:24.320 got killless with the basketball. Okay, see this season number 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.240 one in that rating, number two all time first and 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:32.240 defensive rating third, offensive rating, second youngest championship team in 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:36.800 NBA history, only behind the nineteen seventy seven Portland Trail 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.480 Blaze you led by. 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:40.440 You didn't mentioned one guy. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.520 Who would sparticularly effective in that thing, and it was 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.360 really Alex Gruss. Nobody's gonna talk about the ball Egle. 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.320 I know, Shannon, that hurts you because the you spell 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.200 a fakir over there when the ket me out. But 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:58.960 Thomas Caruso was huge for them defensively, offensively, he is 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.160 able to shut the do and really contain guys, and 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.640 he made the extremely tough for them, especially talking about 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.560 those steals he was on that steel thing. 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:13.960 On Hey, unc Brid, I think y'all made great points, 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:15.080 especially about they bench. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.080 You know the others that they played well. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.640 Obviously, you know the more likely whoever bench plays well, 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.600 they team win. But to me, if you look at 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.240 Chick Hombridge, I think he was averaging eleven points throughout 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.880 this throughout this finals run. Tonight he had eighteen points, 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.520 a rebounds, five blocks, and he was six to eighth 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.960 from the field, very efficient, So probably his best game. 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:36.760 Yeah, I agree. 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.560 If he plays well plus Shay and you got Wigans 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.080 playing well, it's hard to beat them. They just hadn't 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.840 got consistent play from check Homeridge, you know what I mean. 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.400 So if he if he give him five blocks, he 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.840 giving you eighteen or twenty two points a night. And 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:54.800 I think that's his next that's his next ceiling to 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.720 where he can be consistent on a nine to night 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.960 basis with these guys. That's what's gonna make him a 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.720 dynasty and make them hard to be But you know, 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:02.680 think about this. 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:12.800 Yeah, okay, Joe, No that hold on you before you 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.600 go cornbread. I mean, Joe, listen, you talk about dynasty 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.760 right now after after the team don't The one way 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.560 to have a dynasty right is to be able to 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.280 keep your core group coople guys together. 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:23.880 Now they just win a championship. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.360 Now what happens if you have players that deserve and 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.480 want to get paid, that don't want to stay there 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.760 because they's no shades getting getting ready to get paid. 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.120 So players are gonna how you how you're gonna say, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.880 dynasty gonna change. 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:37.400 I don't. 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.840 I don't get that feeling from Okay, seeing those guys. 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.000 He's a close knitch group. And I think when when 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:45.920 you win, oh, Joe, you have to go in the 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.760 luxury tat. You know, everybody gets paid. That's you know 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.440 what I mean. They're a small market. But the fact 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:52.880 that they don't want you mean to tell me you're 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.000 gonna let one of these cornerstone guys get out of here? 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:55.480 You can't. 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.560 You know, it's good, it's good to say, Joe, but 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.520 them dead president, they changed your mind. 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:02.240 A lot of times. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.960 They ain't looking at they might think that they might 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.800 say that, but when you're talking about that luxury taxis 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.960 you're paying the guy ten million, but now it projects 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:16.440 out that you're paying in thirty go in the year now. 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.840 Teams give a chance in their minds. Sometimes they have 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.800 they might want to pull back. I just like that 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.800 when you talk about dynasties. I look away. Just last 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.480 year what people said about the Celtics, the Celtics is 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:29.840 gonna win the championship. 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.360 Begin with Tail and Brown and all those players. What happened? 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:34.320 They didn't win. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.840 This is this is whether and and the NBA loves 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:41.159 it and the fact that you have different teams winning 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:46.200 championships because it promotes all this just equal LIQORATD among 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:46.840 the teams. 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:59.159 The fans don't like it though, because the thing you 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.520 have read, the fans in the NBA are different than 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.160 the fans of the NFL because small market team, Pittsburgh, 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.600 small market, but they got ravenous fans and they've been 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:12.280 cheering for the Steelers for fifty to sixty years. Green Bay, 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:18.000 small market, been cheering up TV years. The NBA don't 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.600 have that. You gotta go La, you gotta go to 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.480 New York, you gotta go Boston, you gotta go to 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.960 these Chicago, these massive markets to get a following with 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.359 because if not, it's just regional. Because think about it, 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.080 your grandfather ready for the Steelers. 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.960 And so when he had kids and they moved away. 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.120 They don't live in Pittsburgh, they're somewhere else, but they're 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:41.800 still Stealer fans. Green Bay. They don't live in Green Bay. 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.760 They're still Packer fans though. The Cowboys they just so 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.199 that's how it has to be. But I think the 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.440 thing is what the NBA can do the players, the team, Oh, 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.080 show that you're on Joe and Brad. 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.359 You know this. I can give you that extra. I 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:56.320 can give you that fifty year. 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.240 Yeah, I get hey, you go somewhere else, you gonna 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.200 go get far. I can give you five full of guarantee. 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.720 Now do you want four years and one sixty or 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:05.880 do you want five years? 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:09.479 And you need to say that about small market teams 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:10.000 lived here? 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.639 What is what was Miami? Is that a small market? 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.000 And let's talk about its san Antonio? What's that a 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:17.720 small market? 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:18.560 Those? 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.359