Speaker 1: The volume.
Speaker 2: We have a new NBA champ.
Speaker 3: The OKC Thunder take down the Indiana Pacers one to
Speaker 3: three to ninety seven to win their first championship. The
Speaker 3: celebration is going ongoing. Shay is probably gonna win the MVP.
Speaker 3: Great series. It goes seven game Tyres Halliburton goes down
Speaker 3: late in the first quarter, and you know, and I
Speaker 3: think that everybody's gonna say they had Halle. Maybe the
Speaker 3: outcomes we would have been different, but we'll never know.
Speaker 3: The OKC Thunder cap off a great regular season, sixty
Speaker 3: eight wins in the regular season and they take home
Speaker 3: the championship one oh three ninety one over the Pacers
Speaker 3: four to three, seven game series. What an our standing game.
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Speaker 3: Joe Johnson and joining us to cap off this championship
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Speaker 4: I really felt it was. It was a great series.
Speaker 4: Nobody picked Indiana. Indiana deserved so much more credit. But
Speaker 4: you know, when you lose your best player.
Speaker 5: Chad would tell you lose your.
Speaker 4: Best player that early in the game, you were never
Speaker 4: able to recome. I don't care what happened that. It
Speaker 4: was more like it was at the end of the game.
Speaker 4: That's that's gonna have. My buddy Terry On kept telling
Speaker 4: them that, no, no, they're gonna lose the best player
Speaker 4: that can still win. When you lose your best player,
Speaker 4: this hardness held me. I got to use one of
Speaker 4: the chance. The goddamn man got hurt. That's what he did.
Speaker 4: Goddamn hurt.
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, Brad corn Red, I'm glad you. I'm glad
Speaker 6: you said that, and and and that.
Speaker 4: That speaks to the fact that obviously Joe and I
Speaker 4: had a bet on I'm not sure if we put
Speaker 4: any money.
Speaker 6: Uh, we put a wage on him. But honestly, Joe,
Speaker 6: if you're a real one, if you're a real one.
Speaker 5: The fact that I got hurt, Let me, let let me,
Speaker 5: let me stay, stay with me.
Speaker 1: Damn if you're real, if you was a real one,
Speaker 1: the fact that the pacers were handicapped and Halliburton got hurt.
Speaker 5: You taking my money knowing that the pace was handed.
Speaker 2: And I guess, I guess I ain't a real one.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I need run it run. Ain't trying to
Speaker 2: hear that pread?
Speaker 5: What are you talking about talking about?
Speaker 2: You know what, Joe, what you're doing?
Speaker 5: Sure?
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Speaker 3: So Joe had a big win today. We'll talk about
Speaker 3: that a little later. But okay, See wins his first championship.
Speaker 3: Now they do have a championship. They left the Seattle
Speaker 3: name up in Seattle. They did win a championship. What
Speaker 3: was that seventy.
Speaker 5: Denis Johnson was there, so Gun.
Speaker 2: The Wizard, Jack Sigmua, Barvin Webster.
Speaker 5: There was some bad boys.
Speaker 3: But ok see caps off for a great regular season,
Speaker 3: sixty eight wins in the regular season, and they finish
Speaker 3: it off the way they were supposed to.
Speaker 2: They have the MVP of the league and Shae Gilgers.
Speaker 3: And they win it one O three to ninety one,
Speaker 3: four to three, seven game series.
Speaker 2: Uh, Joe, I'm gonna go to you first. I thought
Speaker 2: the series.
Speaker 3: I thought the game turn in the third quarter seven
Speaker 3: turnovers by Pacers, none by the Thunder thirty four to twenty.
Speaker 3: If you do a better job of taking care of
Speaker 3: the basketball. I thought they got out of rebound. I
Speaker 3: mean it was simple stuff. You know, you're going around
Speaker 3: the two break and you let the guy punch the
Speaker 3: ball out from the back, you get the rebound, and
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden you lose it out of
Speaker 3: bound on you on your own. You can't have careless
Speaker 3: turnovers like that. As Brad said, when you're under man
Speaker 3: your best player is down you nearly You need to
Speaker 3: play a damn near perfect ball game, and the one
Speaker 3: thing you can't do is turn the ball over. Joe,
Speaker 3: when you saw this early in the game, Tyre's Halliburton
Speaker 3: seemed like he had it going early three D threes,
Speaker 3: was playing extremely well.
Speaker 2: But we talked about this.
Speaker 3: I said, man, we gotta be careful with this calf
Speaker 3: because the same thing they said about kd Oh.
Speaker 2: It's this calf.
Speaker 3: It's his calf, and you saw him with to make
Speaker 3: that certain burst and then all of a sudden, you
Speaker 3: could see it when they showed it slow much into
Speaker 3: the replay that they roll up, and it's very, very unfortunate.
Speaker 3: He's probably gonna be gone until the twenty twenty sixth
Speaker 3: season because it happened so late.
Speaker 2: He's not coming back.
Speaker 3: But Okay, see Joe, they were the best team from
Speaker 3: start to finish, and they feel that they did it
Speaker 3: was Hey, look, it's been a great series.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: First off, we gotta give we got to get a
Speaker 2: PACER's credit.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm talking about throughout the whole postseason Ocho Bred.
Speaker 2: You know, they've been obviously resilient.
Speaker 3: They've been counted out and still been kicking and finding
Speaker 3: ways to win ball games. I felt it was gonna
Speaker 3: be tough for him to win this game when Halliburg
Speaker 3: went out, But I thought he came out aggressive and
Speaker 3: you know, uh, Indiana came out like they you know, like.
Speaker 2: They knew what time it was. I thought him got
Speaker 2: him was pretty aggressive.
Speaker 3: They were making shots and it was a Tito title
Speaker 3: game early and like you said that, in that third quarter,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you lose it out of battle
Speaker 3: on your own. You can't have careless turnovers like that.
Speaker 3: If Brad said, when you're under man, your best player
Speaker 3: is down you nearly. You need to play a damn
Speaker 3: near perfect ball game, and the one thing you can't
Speaker 3: do is turn the ball over. Joe, when you saw
Speaker 3: this early in the game, Tyree's Halliburton seemed like he
Speaker 3: had it going early. Three D three was playing extremely well.
Speaker 3: But we talked about this. I said, man, we gotta
Speaker 3: be careful with this calf, because the same thing they
Speaker 3: said about kd oh, it's his Calf's his calf, and
Speaker 3: you saw him with to make that certain burst and
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you can see it when
Speaker 3: they showed it slow much into the replay report, you
Speaker 3: see that thing roll up, and it's very, very unfortunate.
Speaker 3: He's probably gonna be gone until the twenty twenty sixth
Speaker 3: season because it happened so late.
Speaker 2: He's not coming back.
Speaker 4: But uh.
Speaker 3: Okay, see Joe, they were the best team from start
Speaker 3: to finish, and they finished it off.
Speaker 2: Yeah they did. It was Hey, look it's been a
Speaker 2: great series. Man.
Speaker 3: First off, we gotta give we got to get a
Speaker 3: pace of credit. You know, I'm talking about throughout the
Speaker 3: whole postseason, O Joe. You know, they've been obviously resilient.
Speaker 3: They've been counted out and still been kicking and finding
Speaker 3: ways to win ball games. I felt it was gonna
Speaker 3: be tough for him to win this game when Halliburt went.
Speaker 3: But I thought he came out aggressive and you know,
Speaker 3: uh Indiana came out like they you know, like they
Speaker 3: knew what time it was.
Speaker 5: I thought him Yakam was pretty aggressive.
Speaker 3: They were making shots and it was a Tito title
Speaker 3: game early and like you said in that in that
Speaker 3: third quarter, the separation was they beat him thirty two
Speaker 3: to ten off points off turnovers. Okay See had thirty
Speaker 3: two points off their turnovers, and I think that was
Speaker 3: that was the biggest difference of the game. But give
Speaker 3: okay See a lot of credit. They did what they
Speaker 3: had to do. They closed him out on their home court. Man,
Speaker 3: it was a great series, fellas a great series.
Speaker 4: I can't believe you then glory to God when you
Speaker 4: were about seeing all that. That's how he always thought
Speaker 4: that you glory to God.
Speaker 5: You didn't even go there.
Speaker 4: I think it was it was a tremendous series. It
Speaker 4: was a series I think Carlile coached his ass off.
Speaker 4: I think, man, Jim McConnell was what Joe would say, Joe,
Speaker 4: he was a water bug.
Speaker 5: And I know I can hear you.
Speaker 4: I know you and your damn your house as somebody.
Speaker 5: I know that's what happened, Oh Joe.
Speaker 4: When when games go like this, to me, it's almost
Speaker 4: scripted at the end.
Speaker 5: Okay, see had nothing.
Speaker 4: I mean, I look at Indiana, had nothing to loose,
Speaker 4: They had nothing to lose. They played early, they played
Speaker 4: well early, but you could see the bubble that all
Speaker 4: the air just squabbed the bubble. When when it happened
Speaker 4: and the entry, the same thing happened with the Celtics
Speaker 4: went take them with them. It was just a matter
Speaker 4: of time before the team was over.
Speaker 5: Great O Joe, Man, I'm hurt. Huh, I'm hurt.
Speaker 4: Obviously Halliburton coming out of aggressive as as he did,
Speaker 4: I really felt and I I wholeheartedly really felt good,
Speaker 4: not just about this game, but about them coming away
Speaker 4: with that win.
Speaker 5: And I think that would have been the outcome had
Speaker 5: he not gotten hurt. T J.
Speaker 6: McConnell played very well. See I can played very well,
Speaker 6: and the fact once he went down, they were still competed. Uh,
Speaker 6: they still compete.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: They didn't get the game very close, but the turnovers
Speaker 6: it hurt. And not only did the turnovers hurt, they scored.
Speaker 6: I mean, the thunderwa able to score points on those turnovers.
Speaker 6: And I mean, it is what it is. I'm just
Speaker 6: I'm just kind of sad. I'm kind of sad because
Speaker 6: I thought Joe was a better friend in fact that
Speaker 6: the paces were handicapped, and he still is willing to
Speaker 6: take take that money from me, you know, it just
Speaker 6: I mean it is Hey, hey.
Speaker 3: Joe, Joe telling you lose your job. The mortgage company
Speaker 3: still want they paid. Hello, Hello, yeah, they still want Hey.
Speaker 3: Look I understand, you know. So unfortunately has happened, Oh Joe,
Speaker 3: but I gotta tell you, bro, I'm sorry, but they
Speaker 3: ain't got nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2: You and me? Yeah got you? Yeah to no one surprise.
Speaker 3: Shaye was just named Finals MVP, so he's the regular
Speaker 3: season MVP Western Conference MVP Finals MVP average thirty points,
Speaker 3: five and a half, persists, one point almost two steals
Speaker 3: a game, one of the half blocked shots per game,
Speaker 3: and he's only twenty six years of age.
Speaker 6: I'm glad you just said that. Now, think about everything
Speaker 6: he just named off. He's won a ring already. He
Speaker 6: was the MVP this season. Now, we talked about this
Speaker 6: a very very long time all throughout the NBA season.
Speaker 4: You said you would take joke of SGA now yeah
Speaker 4: still ring? Yeah, would you still take would you still
Speaker 4: take still?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because your kids got a ring too, You remember
Speaker 2: your kids did all that time.
Speaker 4: I want to see if if your mind is yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 4: that's not the and that's not to take away anything
Speaker 4: from uh from Shaye. Yes, sir, he's a phenomenal player, ye,
Speaker 4: but I mean you talked about I mean and you
Speaker 4: like really splitting hairs. So you're looking at Shane, You're
Speaker 4: looking at your kids, You're looking at Gianni's.
Speaker 3: I think I think those are the three best players.
Speaker 3: Maybe you sprinkling luc or something when he's helthy going.
Speaker 3: But Shaye, I mean to be twenty six years of age.
Speaker 3: They brought him in. He's you know, kind of learned
Speaker 3: under Chris Paul and then they turned the bread they
Speaker 3: turned the organization over to a kid that.
Speaker 4: Was But here's the thing you say, and when you
Speaker 4: talk to Old Chow, the supporting cast, you look at
Speaker 4: the best supporting cast. At the end of the day,
Speaker 4: you can look at, Okay, see what the supporting cast.
Speaker 4: B new Dog looked like he should have been playing
Speaker 4: with the with the Cleveland Browns, the where he was
Speaker 4: knocking guys that way.
Speaker 5: He was saying to the thing.
Speaker 4: The big question we're gonna talk about Leon, gentlemen, is
Speaker 4: this we you talk about three guys.
Speaker 5: Who were the m vps.
Speaker 4: When they were with the Thumbler, they couldn't get it done,
Speaker 4: Hardened Westbrook and the Rent they couldn't get it done.
Speaker 4: But now they've gone to a smaller, more effective lineup,
Speaker 4: not this biggest stars, but they still won. But those
Speaker 4: three guys to talk about that that supporting cast they
Speaker 4: had that they should have won one or two.
Speaker 3: They getting that James hard You remember they went to
Speaker 3: the championship, they lost to the Heat and then the
Speaker 3: next year, for five million dollars, they let James Harden
Speaker 3: go to the Rockets And that was kind of the beginning.
Speaker 2: And we're gonna talk about this a little later.
Speaker 3: Every last one of those guys that started in OKC,
Speaker 3: somehow found a way to get to get to the rockets.
Speaker 3: You know, it started with Hard, then Russ and now KD.
Speaker 3: So we're getting that a little later. But you're absolutely
Speaker 3: right because you look at these two teams, what do
Speaker 3: they have bench play? Yeah, the bench players play extremely well.
Speaker 3: They're a very deep team. You look at Obi top
Speaker 3: and then played well tonight, but he normally plays well.
Speaker 2: But you got mattpron he gave me twenty four. TJ.
Speaker 3: McConnell gave you sixteen, So that's forty points. You got
Speaker 3: forty two points from your bench. You really can't complain
Speaker 3: like that about that. Mcconall just didn't have a good gut.
Speaker 3: He played well offensively, but the turnovers, he had a
Speaker 3: lot of careless turnovers. To night he had seven, they
Speaker 3: had twenty one. They had seven turnovers in the third
Speaker 3: quarter when Okac really opened up the game. I mean,
Speaker 3: because they would have a one point lead and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you start the fourth quarter and you're
Speaker 3: down thirteen. So you go from plus one to minus thirteen.
Speaker 3: And a large part had to do with the turnovers.
Speaker 3: You lost the turnover battle in that they did a
Speaker 3: great job of taking care of it and you know
Speaker 3: this is how OKAC played. They're very active with their hands,
Speaker 3: especially at home. That crowd is rockers, and you just
Speaker 3: got killless with the basketball. Okay, see this season number
Speaker 3: one in that rating, number two all time first and
Speaker 3: defensive rating third, offensive rating, second youngest championship team in
Speaker 3: NBA history, only behind the nineteen seventy seven Portland Trail
Speaker 3: Blaze you led by.
Speaker 5: You didn't mentioned one guy.
Speaker 4: Who would sparticularly effective in that thing, and it was
Speaker 4: really Alex Gruss. Nobody's gonna talk about the ball Egle.
Speaker 4: I know, Shannon, that hurts you because the you spell
Speaker 4: a fakir over there when the ket me out. But
Speaker 4: Thomas Caruso was huge for them defensively, offensively, he is
Speaker 4: able to shut the do and really contain guys, and
Speaker 4: he made the extremely tough for them, especially talking about
Speaker 4: those steals he was on that steel thing.
Speaker 3: On Hey, unc Brid, I think y'all made great points,
Speaker 3: especially about they bench.
Speaker 2: You know the others that they played well.
Speaker 3: Obviously, you know the more likely whoever bench plays well,
Speaker 3: they team win. But to me, if you look at
Speaker 3: Chick Hombridge, I think he was averaging eleven points throughout
Speaker 3: this throughout this finals run. Tonight he had eighteen points,
Speaker 3: a rebounds, five blocks, and he was six to eighth
Speaker 3: from the field, very efficient, So probably his best game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: If he plays well plus Shay and you got Wigans
Speaker 3: playing well, it's hard to beat them. They just hadn't
Speaker 3: got consistent play from check Homeridge, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So if he if he give him five blocks, he
Speaker 3: giving you eighteen or twenty two points a night. And
Speaker 3: I think that's his next that's his next ceiling to
Speaker 3: where he can be consistent on a nine to night
Speaker 3: basis with these guys. That's what's gonna make him a
Speaker 3: dynasty and make them hard to be But you know,
Speaker 3: think about this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Joe, No that hold on you before you
Speaker 4: go cornbread. I mean, Joe, listen, you talk about dynasty
Speaker 4: right now after after the team don't The one way
Speaker 4: to have a dynasty right is to be able to
Speaker 4: keep your core group coople guys together.
Speaker 5: Now they just win a championship.
Speaker 4: Now what happens if you have players that deserve and
Speaker 4: want to get paid, that don't want to stay there
Speaker 4: because they's no shades getting getting ready to get paid.
Speaker 5: So players are gonna how you how you're gonna say,
Speaker 5: dynasty gonna change.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't get that feeling from Okay, seeing those guys.
Speaker 3: He's a close knitch group. And I think when when
Speaker 3: you win, oh, Joe, you have to go in the
Speaker 3: luxury tat. You know, everybody gets paid. That's you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. They're a small market. But the fact
Speaker 3: that they don't want you mean to tell me you're
Speaker 3: gonna let one of these cornerstone guys get out of here?
Speaker 5: You can't.
Speaker 4: You know, it's good, it's good to say, Joe, but
Speaker 4: them dead president, they changed your mind.
Speaker 5: A lot of times.
Speaker 4: They ain't looking at they might think that they might
Speaker 4: say that, but when you're talking about that luxury taxis
Speaker 4: you're paying the guy ten million, but now it projects
Speaker 4: out that you're paying in thirty go in the year now.
Speaker 4: Teams give a chance in their minds. Sometimes they have
Speaker 4: they might want to pull back. I just like that
Speaker 4: when you talk about dynasties. I look away. Just last
Speaker 4: year what people said about the Celtics, the Celtics is
Speaker 4: gonna win the championship.
Speaker 5: Begin with Tail and Brown and all those players. What happened?
Speaker 5: They didn't win.
Speaker 4: This is this is whether and and the NBA loves
Speaker 4: it and the fact that you have different teams winning
Speaker 4: championships because it promotes all this just equal LIQORATD among
Speaker 4: the teams.
Speaker 3: The fans don't like it though, because the thing you
Speaker 3: have read, the fans in the NBA are different than
Speaker 3: the fans of the NFL because small market team, Pittsburgh,
Speaker 3: small market, but they got ravenous fans and they've been
Speaker 3: cheering for the Steelers for fifty to sixty years. Green Bay,
Speaker 3: small market, been cheering up TV years. The NBA don't
Speaker 3: have that. You gotta go La, you gotta go to
Speaker 3: New York, you gotta go Boston, you gotta go to
Speaker 3: these Chicago, these massive markets to get a following with
Speaker 3: because if not, it's just regional. Because think about it,
Speaker 3: your grandfather ready for the Steelers.
Speaker 2: And so when he had kids and they moved away.
Speaker 3: They don't live in Pittsburgh, they're somewhere else, but they're
Speaker 3: still Stealer fans. Green Bay. They don't live in Green Bay.
Speaker 3: They're still Packer fans though. The Cowboys they just so
Speaker 3: that's how it has to be. But I think the
Speaker 3: thing is what the NBA can do the players, the team, Oh,
Speaker 3: show that you're on Joe and Brad.
Speaker 5: You know this. I can give you that extra. I
Speaker 5: can give you that fifty year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get hey, you go somewhere else, you gonna
Speaker 3: go get far. I can give you five full of guarantee.
Speaker 3: Now do you want four years and one sixty or
Speaker 3: do you want five years?
Speaker 5: And you need to say that about small market teams
Speaker 5: lived here?
Speaker 4: What is what was Miami? Is that a small market?
Speaker 4: And let's talk about its san Antonio? What's that a
Speaker 4: small market?
Speaker 2: Those?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they don't do no rating teams and the ratings,
Speaker 3: but for those lady were terrible. Go look at look
Speaker 3: at Sandy Tonio. Look at Sandy Tonio when they play.
Speaker 3: Look and they had great. Look at you had you had,
Speaker 3: you had Parker, you had you nobly. It's it's different
Speaker 3: NFL market small markets versus.
Speaker 5: NBA small I give you that. I look at Miami.
Speaker 5: Is Miami a small market?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, it's not like like, well I'm look at small markets.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at like Indy, I'm looking at I'm looking
Speaker 3: at like uh people.
Speaker 5: Okay right now, and you're talking about them.
Speaker 4: Some of the most spare weather fans I ever saw
Speaker 4: in my last go to the Way in Miami.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure, I mean yes, but the
Speaker 7: market them keepers not the game early, oh Joe, then
Speaker 7: not the game early, and then when only hit the
Speaker 7: shot that wasted to get to ask game.
Speaker 5: Small market in your loyalty and this heat culture.
Speaker 2: I believe what jannet for bread bread, But you know
Speaker 2: how it's worked now. It's the same thing with l A.
Speaker 3: If you don't win, them fans not coming because there's
Speaker 3: too much to do. See when they're gonna do what?
Speaker 3: Live's your question? What else are you gonna do it? Okay,
Speaker 3: s what else are you gonna do it? In the
Speaker 3: besides go to a damn basketball game? But watch the
Speaker 3: Indianapolis five hundred. So now in Miami, I got the beach,
Speaker 3: oh Joe, I got South Beach.
Speaker 2: I got so much I can do La Bred. You
Speaker 2: know how much is going on.
Speaker 3: So if you don't win in those markets, oh bro,
Speaker 3: I ain't coming here.
Speaker 5: Lit the only people that will go.
Speaker 6: We talk about hardcore fans, fans that you win and losing,
Speaker 6: that they will die and ride by you whether you win,
Speaker 6: they're losing. But when it comes to Miami or with
Speaker 6: any of the big market teams, the New York LA's,
Speaker 6: the Miami's, maybe maybe Houston, I'm.
Speaker 5: Not sure if you can Chicago, Chicago another one. And
Speaker 5: the fans ain't coming.
Speaker 4: They're not sitting through that, They're not spending their harder
Speaker 4: and money, especially in this goddamn economy. You mean to
Speaker 4: tell you the economy messed up and we losing.
Speaker 5: Nah?
Speaker 3: Uh, it's saying small markets New Orleans, Okay, See Milwaukee,
Speaker 3: San Antonio, Utah, Indiana, Charlotte.
Speaker 5: Hey does that change?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 3: Young?
Speaker 4: For TV markets? We talked about TV markets, Now I
Speaker 4: got you. I have a question too.
Speaker 6: Also, yes with okay, like where people always want to
Speaker 6: go and play no matter what. They love to go
Speaker 6: play in Houston, they love to go play in Miami,
Speaker 6: they love going play in LA.
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 6: Does does the thunder and EDG winning the championship? Does
Speaker 6: that ex suit us from the outside want to go playing?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 3: See, there's only one thing. What else abody gonna do that?
Speaker 3: If I don't go so other? What other pro sporting
Speaker 3: of it? Can I go to an Oklahoma city? Besides
Speaker 3: see in Miami?
Speaker 2: I can go?
Speaker 3: Can I go see something. Can I see footballs? Can
Speaker 3: I see the mab go to the rodeo?
Speaker 5: Shenley, go to the.
Speaker 2: Rodeo?
Speaker 3: Remember San Aytonio have to hit the road every year.
Speaker 3: Bread they got the goto. What's your color? Coming to rodeo?
Speaker 3: Coming through Indiana. So it's like Milwaukee. What else are
Speaker 3: you gonna do with Milwaukee besides go see the Bucks, flate,
Speaker 3: go to the Harty Day with some museum. If so,
Speaker 3: there's only I mean when people have families and kids,
Speaker 3: they don't just want to like, hey, hey babe, I
Speaker 3: ma home, what are we gonna do tonight? Everything's boarded up.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got kids, they want to do stuff,
Speaker 3: and it's cold. They can't do anything after September Day? Inside?
Speaker 3: How did Pittsburgh you such your problem? This is such
Speaker 3: a small market, and you talk about the NFL, But
Speaker 3: how do they do it? Considering that what you gonna
Speaker 3: do ain't nothing. You got the Pirates, You got the Pirates,
Speaker 3: and you got and you got and you got the Steelers.
Speaker 3: And when the Steelers came up, the Steelers thanks about
Speaker 3: the early seventies, they dominated, and so now they're they're
Speaker 3: putting that imprint on you. Man, the Steelers, Man the Steelers,
Speaker 3: the Steelers, the Steelers, and so kids that had kids,
Speaker 3: they grew up Steelers fans. I grew up a Steelers fans.
Speaker 3: My mom was a Steelers fan because they're always on TV.
Speaker 3: Same thing with the Raiders. Oakland Oakland small, it's small,
Speaker 3: but they that's all you saw. And so once you
Speaker 3: got an age and you had kids, what do kids do?
Speaker 3: Take you to the game. Hey, they got a Cubs
Speaker 3: jersey on, or they got a Celtics jersey on. If so,
Speaker 3: you just it just passes down, passes down. I like it.
Speaker 3: I look, Brad, you said the NBA like this. But
Speaker 3: we've seen we haven't seen anything like this. Seven consecutive
Speaker 3: different champs. We don't see anything this endiculous series. They
Speaker 3: weren't Love Island. Love Island got better ratings.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep it a stack with y'all.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, hey, it was a good series. Hey Chad,
Speaker 3: don't they don't get up Sam with the chat. But
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, look, love that bread. That really happened.
Speaker 3: Let me give you a stat right here. J dubbed
Speaker 3: this season he was an All Star, All Defense, All
Speaker 3: NBA and he's a champion. He's the youngest player since
Speaker 3: Kobe Brandt to achieved all four of those in the
Speaker 3: same season.
Speaker 2: This is what Scottie Pippen said about Jayleen Williams.
Speaker 3: Uh. I don't even want to put a cap on
Speaker 3: him and say that he's going to be me. I
Speaker 3: see him being greater if I can say that, just
Speaker 3: because where the game is today, the h they have
Speaker 3: offensive freedom.
Speaker 2: We didn't have that. We mostly ran out of a system.
Speaker 3: These guys have the freedom to shoot the three balls
Speaker 3: and do things of that nature. Players are playing in
Speaker 3: today's game have a chance to be better than players
Speaker 3: in the past because of the ability to shoot the ball.
Speaker 3: Wow wow, somebody said it. Oh no, But anyway, if
Speaker 3: this kid continued to shoot the three ball the way
Speaker 3: he shoots, I'm going to sit here and say and
Speaker 3: argue with nobody, say he can't he can compare to us,
Speaker 3: because you can't.
Speaker 2: He wins.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Joe, let let Joe, let Joe try me.
Speaker 3: First thing, you go brand and then oh Joe, here,
Speaker 3: what you gotta say, Joe?
Speaker 2: You muted? Can you? I mean out?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Man. I agree with Pipling saying because back in his day.
Speaker 3: You know they played with two traditional bigs. Yeah now
Speaker 3: and today's game especially Okay, see they don't have nobody
Speaker 3: posting up siously, you know those guys are picking pop
Speaker 3: guys and Jade up and Shaye. They kind of get
Speaker 3: to they get free will as supposed to when they
Speaker 3: shoot how they want to sho shoot so they can
Speaker 3: give it to you.
Speaker 2: However they won't.
Speaker 3: I think that the game is a lot more wide
Speaker 3: open now, and yes, you they do have a lot
Speaker 3: more freedom than guys had back back when Scotty was playing.
Speaker 5: Uh Joe, I.
Speaker 4: Think the game is tailor made for you right now
Speaker 4: because it is an ISO game.
Speaker 5: It is one on one game, and.
Speaker 4: If you are a guy can put the ball on
Speaker 4: the floor, you can score up from the outside.
Speaker 5: It's almost impossible to stop you.
Speaker 4: There's found that I played when we had Michel Parrish,
Speaker 4: myself Berg we were post up guys and we stayed
Speaker 4: right on that block, so we getdn't.
Speaker 5: We weren't trying to trick you.
Speaker 4: We're just gonna beat the hell out of you in
Speaker 4: the damn post that nobody.
Speaker 5: Nobody doubt say anymore shit anymore.
Speaker 4: It's a dead game. So because of that the game
Speaker 4: has changed so much in a way. And Scotty, I
Speaker 4: appreciate Scotty giving up up like that, but I team
Speaker 4: wouldn't like to see. And this is Joe and old Joe,
Speaker 4: and I would love to see what would happened if
Speaker 4: he had been playing during the eighties when guys were
Speaker 4: throwing his ass to the ground. Now, what all this
Speaker 4: all this? He's getting you up in the air, faking
Speaker 4: you doing all this stuff. You know how to truck
Speaker 4: played like that? The tray used to play two fouls.
Speaker 4: One guy will hit you, and what's if the other
Speaker 4: guy free?
Speaker 5: You know what, Joe? That gave the other guy freedom
Speaker 5: to knock the hell other.
Speaker 4: So so he would take another special guy. And I'm
Speaker 4: not taking away from what Shake does. I'm really not,
Speaker 4: but I'd like to see what he do with hand checking. Joe,
Speaker 4: there you played in I'd like to see what he
Speaker 4: would do right now when it came to hard fire.
Speaker 4: You think you see some of these files they called
Speaker 4: to day the guy said lay for a foul when
Speaker 4: the guy brushed in the hit and then during my
Speaker 4: particular ror, they would have laughed at your ass like, no,
Speaker 4: you ain't bleeding when your eyes say, now, oh Joe,
Speaker 4: if you ain't, if you ain't missing a tooth or nothing,
Speaker 4: you won't believe from the nose.
Speaker 5: They're gonna call him that. So I would love to
Speaker 5: know how Shay. I'm not taking away anything from no hatred.
Speaker 4: I love to see how they played during the physical game,
Speaker 4: the way it was played during that time.
Speaker 6: Hey right, I like what Pippen said, Uncle Joe and
Speaker 6: bred I like what he said. But the funny thing
Speaker 6: about it is there's certain players regards to error, regards
Speaker 6: to era based on skill setting, DNA and what they
Speaker 6: bring to the table in that specific era. With regards
Speaker 6: of what are you put certain individuals in they're gonna
Speaker 6: succeed regardles of how the game truth, whether it's in
Speaker 6: the eighties, whether it's in the nineties, whether in the
Speaker 6: two thousand, or whether it's now.
Speaker 5: A player like HG eight he will thrive.
Speaker 6: He will still thrive and just adapt to the circumstance
Speaker 6: and the environment and the style of playing which they
Speaker 6: played if he was in the eighties or in the
Speaker 6: nineties when they were a lot more physical.
Speaker 4: The same thing goes with pipping. It's hard to compare errors.
Speaker 4: You really can't do it. You can't, era, UNC, when
Speaker 4: you played football, the rule change, the rule change exactly,
Speaker 4: the rule changes.
Speaker 6: Obviously, you think about the game of basketball, right, everything
Speaker 6: is ice on now.
Speaker 5: Back then the Jordan era, the Pipping era.
Speaker 4: They played with two bigs back in your day, UNC,
Speaker 4: God damn, look at the yards you got.
Speaker 5: You gotta goddamn Jackson got a bus in the Hall
Speaker 5: of Fame, and god damn.
Speaker 2: Ken.
Speaker 5: Right, and you've played during the Running Game era.
Speaker 6: Imagine if you played right now, you and your prime
Speaker 6: and they throwing the ball twenty million times every goddamn game.
Speaker 4: Deal level, Ken, you left from that, you're about to
Speaker 4: get them pay or something bright down.
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, I see I.
Speaker 3: See them guys making the tight ends, making seventeen eighteen
Speaker 3: a year.
Speaker 2: I do see that.
Speaker 3: Hey, uh, I mean just goes to show you just
Speaker 3: how well the thunder to play defense. Indiana shot the
Speaker 3: ball better from the field, better from the three point line,
Speaker 3: better from the free throw line, and they out rebounded them.
Speaker 3: But they had one glaring stat They triple them up
Speaker 3: and turnovers twenty one to seven. That is the difference
Speaker 3: in the ball game.
Speaker 4: Will kill you in any game you play and I
Speaker 4: don't care what's for the days you played football, you
Speaker 4: turn that ball over. You played basket and you turn
Speaker 4: it over, and it's going to be a recipe for
Speaker 4: you to lose, because those are wasted opportunities. A lot
Speaker 4: of people laughed when they talked about the self excusing
Speaker 4: at threes, and I talked to Jae Mizzula about this.
Speaker 5: He said, Max, I rather formed to shoot the.
Speaker 4: Three, then turn the damn ball over, because that therefore
Speaker 4: you wouldn't get the shop opportunity.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, damn, that does make sense.
Speaker 4: Though you at least you shoot it, you get an
Speaker 4: opportunity to go in. But when you turn the ball
Speaker 4: over in a live situation, your defense is lopsided, gone
Speaker 4: back the other way, and it just kills you. And
Speaker 4: you can see it hurt Indiana all day.
Speaker 5: T J. Mccollos was a smart player, Joe.
Speaker 4: They surprised me when he crossed the court at that
Speaker 4: time at half court and it got double.
Speaker 2: And he pushed the ball out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're smarter than that. You ain't. It's a
Speaker 5: point guard. You ain't spost to cross that getting.
Speaker 3: Pinned on the sideline. He got kept he kept getting
Speaker 3: pinned in the corner. He's only so tall, so when
Speaker 3: they come with a double team, he's not getting out
Speaker 3: of that because you can't feel over him. Hey look,
Speaker 3: you had to know that he was gonna make some mistake. Guys,
Speaker 3: they asked an awful lot of him. You know what
Speaker 3: they did went down, so he probably he ain't accustomed
Speaker 3: to play. He since the first quarter. Tyreeves went down
Speaker 3: in the first quarter, and now TJ had to step
Speaker 3: in and be the guy against the starters.
Speaker 2: He ain't going against their backup.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: Now he's going against j Doub, he's going against Door,
Speaker 3: He's going He's end up with the trees with Chat.
Speaker 2: So it's a difference you're asking him to do. You
Speaker 2: asking him to be TJ.
Speaker 3: But I need more of that from you, and I
Speaker 3: need you to give it to me against their war
Speaker 3: they're red, Joe.
Speaker 5: Let me let me ask you this, Joe.
Speaker 4: Some of them players you used to play with when
Speaker 4: you're winning on your team and they be talking all
Speaker 4: that ship and then they getting the.
Speaker 2: Game and need a real game.
Speaker 5: You go, man, what's happen? Hey?
Speaker 3: Hey? They want be damn questions touch for you? Hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 3: look hey, bread o Joe. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3: I was in college, man, I'm telling you, when I
Speaker 3: first got the campus, I wanted to play in the hype.
Speaker 2: That's where everybody used to play it.
Speaker 3: And I had dudes on my team bro average two
Speaker 3: point three points a game. Who in the hype looking
Speaker 3: like Jordan? You're so once that pop going on, the
Speaker 3: popping and them lights come on.
Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, what happened?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he ain't the same no more, it ain't the
Speaker 3: same with them lights come on.
Speaker 4: That pop said the right thing. It's DNA base. It
Speaker 4: is for some people and it's showing for some other people.
Speaker 4: The damn big lights come on, and they damn put
Speaker 4: a little bit more brother on the damn pop corn something.
Speaker 5: These people are gonna fold like a damn chip that.
Speaker 3: It's funny that y'all say that, because my Frenchman, we
Speaker 3: had a guy there was roommates and one of the
Speaker 3: guys who was the started wide receiver.
Speaker 2: His roommate go tell the coach.
Speaker 3: He's like, Coach, if you gave me some run, I
Speaker 3: can catch just as good as my roommate. I can
Speaker 3: catch just as good as this guy. Sure enough, Coach
Speaker 3: put him in the game. Drop everything.
Speaker 2: He threw it.
Speaker 3: Coach after the game, he say, son, you came to
Speaker 3: my office and tell me you better than Barney. We
Speaker 3: put you in the game, he put him on blast.
Speaker 3: Your roommate, I'm better than him. You have told the
Speaker 3: coach I'm better than my roommate. He put you in
Speaker 3: the game. You lay an egg, and then the coach
Speaker 3: called you out. For everybody in your room and sitting
Speaker 3: there looking at you.
Speaker 4: Out you go, all that talking, all damn noise. Oh
Speaker 4: till you've seen enough of that, all the damn guys,
Speaker 4: back you up. Just to tell guys in practice sometime,
Speaker 4: what the hell you founding me like that?
Speaker 5: You can get.
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I don't I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 4: people understand how difficult it is. It's one thing to
Speaker 4: be playing in the park. It's one thing to be
Speaker 4: having fun recreational with your friends. But I'm talking about
Speaker 4: at the highest level. Bring going on. I'll talk about
Speaker 4: at the highest level when them lives turn on. Especially
Speaker 4: if you're a talker. He was a talker, Joe. If
Speaker 4: you're a talker and you've got to back it up,
Speaker 4: oh you got it back. I don't think you understand
Speaker 4: how much pressure that is.
Speaker 6: And obviously when you see the finished product on a Sunday,
Speaker 6: you'd be like, well damn, they make it look easy.
Speaker 6: But what you don't get to see is all a work.
Speaker 6: Be motherfucker got to put in befull time? Are you
Speaker 6: co cuted on Sunday?
Speaker 5: It just yok? Easy but easy?
Speaker 4: But you know, but but out out of the four
Speaker 4: of us right now on air, three of us, I know,
Speaker 4: talk a lot of ship.
Speaker 5: I know Shannon did. Oh John, I know you did,
Speaker 5: and I know I did. But Joe just saying nothing Joe.
Speaker 5: But George just played the game and gave you is
Speaker 5: that don't do. But I got to let you know
Speaker 5: I'm killing you. Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Let your work speak for himself. No, I was let
Speaker 2: my work. I will speaking work can't talk. But I
Speaker 2: tell you yours that yeah.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey they were Hey, they work to say volumes
Speaker 3: now not a lot of oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well get terrible.
Speaker 5: You you gonna be in the waiver while I got
Speaker 5: one for you, Shannon.
Speaker 2: This is my best story.
Speaker 4: I was playing against the Lakers and we had some
Speaker 4: some of them guys over there, Larry Spriggs and some
Speaker 4: of these guys really hadn't played that much and they
Speaker 4: were screaming, yelling at me, and I will take the
Speaker 4: ball out. So I was about to get the ball
Speaker 4: from the referee and I said, hold up a minute.
Speaker 4: He said hold up, He said, what what what do
Speaker 4: you want? I said, pat Rowley would stand beside me.
Speaker 4: I said, Pat put one of the motherfuckers in down there.
Speaker 4: Pat Rowley turns read and gone, hey, you're going the game.
Speaker 4: This guy comes in the game to guard me. I
Speaker 4: scored about ten quick points going out the game. I said,
Speaker 4: next time, you'll sit your ass down.
Speaker 5: And be quiet.
Speaker 2: I love pat Rowley for that. I loved it.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it. All the damn talking, doing the running
Speaker 5: your damn mouth, what we get it? You ain't?
Speaker 2: You ain't.
Speaker 4: You should get bit quiet and watch the damn Gameta
Speaker 4: free each other up. We had three stars go down
Speaker 4: in the postseason with torn a Keileys. Dame Lilly went
Speaker 4: down first, Jason Tatum went down next, and then Tyre's Halliburton.
Speaker 2: They all wear the number zero.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Jeff Starts tweeted if Halliburton didn't Achilles, which he did,
Speaker 3: that would be the eighth A. Kilees tear this season.
Speaker 3: The previous high was five in fourteen fifteen. That does
Speaker 3: not include the nazis ent of the Koumbo who tore
Speaker 3: his in the offseason, or prospect Jalen Moore who injured
Speaker 3: here in the recent predraft workout unbelievable. So hold on,
Speaker 3: that's who Tom Abstrow, James Wiseman and Isaiah Jackson too
Speaker 3: of theirs too right?
Speaker 2: So what is.
Speaker 3: Joe brad you guys played? I heard people saying, man,
Speaker 3: it's the low top shoes. But boy, with the way
Speaker 3: technology is now, ain't nobody who was Jerry nor chellys
Speaker 3: with them?
Speaker 2: Chuck Taylors. Now they got all this technology. What's going on?
Speaker 2: What the achilles go?
Speaker 5: I think it's this, Joe. I believe the fact that
Speaker 5: these guys never rest.
Speaker 4: The guys you name Tatum played in the Olympics last year,
Speaker 4: never had an opportunity to rest. Hallack Bergen played in
Speaker 4: the Olympics, had an opportunity to rest.
Speaker 5: We know, we know what Dame does.
Speaker 4: He plays all this basketball because you don't rest your body.
Speaker 4: Shannon old Joe, Joe, your damn body is gonna rest
Speaker 4: you one way or the other. And it might be
Speaker 4: the Achilles, and remember that the achilles is one of
Speaker 4: those things. How do you really protect it because you
Speaker 4: can stretch it and do it, but you can't build
Speaker 4: it up like what these strong muscles.
Speaker 5: Not something that happens. Yeah, it's yeah, go ahead, O Joe,
Speaker 5: go ahead. I'm I'm gonna say.
Speaker 4: I see a lot of comments, a lot of people
Speaker 4: talking about, oh, you know, people are wearing low top
Speaker 4: shoes and and I mean, listen, having a hot top
Speaker 4: shoe is not not gonna prevent that. It's not gonna
Speaker 4: prevent that that that's something that's that's on the interior. Uh,
Speaker 4: and listen, it just happens.
Speaker 5: It just happens. Why it happened, I'm not sure.
Speaker 6: Obviously we know Hallie had had an injury, and I'm
Speaker 6: not sure if the conversation for that area caused that
Speaker 6: the keys the rupture.
Speaker 5: But it's just unfortunate that it is happening.
Speaker 6: But I keep seeing the comments about ohs because the
Speaker 6: look had nothing to do with low top shoes, and just.
Speaker 5: I don't believe, so, absolutely not. I ain't fixing that.
Speaker 5: It's not preventing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think so neither Bridge. You could be right,
Speaker 3: it could be the wear and tear on these guys.
Speaker 3: But if y'all listen to Hallen Burton after Game five,
Speaker 3: he said that this will probably if this was regular season,
Speaker 3: this will be a two week, you know, layoff for him.
Speaker 3: He would be out for at least two weeks. And
Speaker 3: the fact that you can't get that and you can't
Speaker 3: get that kind of rest when you have those calf injuries. Man,
Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but this is the next
Speaker 3: thing that comes from it. You know, when you look
Speaker 3: at all the guys from excuse me, Durant, whether it
Speaker 3: was Dame, they all had these calf injuries, and you know,
Speaker 3: you're playing in the postseason. You want to try to
Speaker 3: be there for your team and give them everything you got.
Speaker 3: And honestly, it just becomes too much. It just becomes
Speaker 3: too much because the game is or there's such a
Speaker 3: high level playing in the finals. Like, bro, like, you
Speaker 3: ain't you ain't gonna get no rest on that, like,
Speaker 3: because we're gonna test it every play to our court,
Speaker 3: every play offensively, he trying to get to the rest,
Speaker 3: he trying to make a play.
Speaker 5: You got to push off on that. So I just
Speaker 5: think it was unfortunate for him.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I hated it for him too.
Speaker 4: Who's gonna make that call? Though, Who's gonna make that call?
Speaker 4: Pis to sit down because you know it's not gonna
Speaker 4: be the player because.
Speaker 5: You know, and it's not gonna be either, because I'm
Speaker 5: trying to win.
Speaker 4: The teammates are looking at you, you know, halfway like, yo, Man,
Speaker 4: rap that ship up.
Speaker 5: We got to go.
Speaker 2: We gotta no.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you prevent that when it gets
Speaker 4: down to players and what they're able to do. A
Speaker 4: lot of times you said during the regular season, Joe,
Speaker 4: what would have happened? The only thing I think can
Speaker 4: happen is you if you have an independent doctor that
Speaker 4: has to look at players when they have their injury.
Speaker 4: That's the only way you can send them out and
Speaker 4: protect them, because you can't protect the player from from
Speaker 4: himself those situations because he's gonna want to go.
Speaker 5: He's gonna let me ask your question.
Speaker 2: Let me ask your question, bred who playing for that independence?
Speaker 2: Because if the team playing paying for it, he ain't independent.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: If you playing for it and they keep saying, oh
Speaker 3: it's independent, somebody gotta pay because he ain't doing no
Speaker 3: doctors don't do pro bowlo work unless there are doctors borders.
Speaker 2: They got a service.
Speaker 4: But did that with with the Bill Walton trade that
Speaker 4: that happened with me and Bill walk I passed it.
Speaker 4: I didn't really pass the test in LA when I
Speaker 4: went that. But when when Bill Walton got to got
Speaker 4: to Boston, Renard back blowed the little smoke. It said, Bill,
Speaker 4: you pass his his damn need one as good as
Speaker 4: as your brown house.
Speaker 2: And they went back.
Speaker 4: But they but the power of coaches gms at that
Speaker 4: time is so different than it is so I don't
Speaker 4: know how you protect them player from himself.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, guys, is it a situation
Speaker 3: because now guys are so specialized. Guys play All they
Speaker 3: play is basketball, all they play is baseball, All they
Speaker 3: play is football. So you get so all you doing
Speaker 3: is discressing that. And then you got these tournaments, Joe,
Speaker 3: they play basketball year round. I'm like, damn, I thought
Speaker 3: everything was a season. I thought football had a season.
Speaker 3: I thought basketball had a season. I thought baseball had
Speaker 3: a season. I thought track had a season. They do
Speaker 3: all this stuff year round, and that's why us as
Speaker 3: Americans the basketball hoopers nowadays we're behind because all we
Speaker 3: do is play, play, play, And the guys Overseas.
Speaker 2: They teaching the game.
Speaker 3: They teaching these dudes a game at a young age
Speaker 3: versus just throwing them out there.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Man, listen, we in a whole totally different era to
Speaker 3: where now ochod.
Speaker 2: Hey look if I want y'all to play on me. Okay, look,
Speaker 2: I got one hundred grand for y'all. This something.
Speaker 3: Man, I need y'all to come play with me. That's
Speaker 3: all these people care about. They ain't trying to develop.
Speaker 3: They ain't developing these kids and teaching them really how
Speaker 3: to play the game. So therefore, as they get to
Speaker 3: the next level, whether it's college or pro, you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of them be lost. And you don't really
Speaker 3: hear about it no more because it takes time. Because
Speaker 3: when you get to a team and you're not the man,
Speaker 3: and you have to learn how to play, and you
Speaker 3: have to learn how to start in a row, and
Speaker 3: you ain't never had to do that.
Speaker 5: Oh man, you lost in the sauce.
Speaker 4: Oh dang, that's about as true as the gifts.
Speaker 5: I hadn't thought about it.
Speaker 4: But over in Europe, the skill set that they teach
Speaker 4: script with the three points and the euro step.
Speaker 2: And all that.
Speaker 4: They have that down before they get here. Our players
Speaker 4: utilize one thing. It was Duncan and your foot speed.
Speaker 4: And you can't utilize that the whole time. You have
Speaker 4: to push down the back. Brother, So I think you
Speaker 4: are a thousand and six correct when it comes sick.
Speaker 4: But it's AAU basketball. That's what's skilled. A lot of
Speaker 4: that damn kid going. I ain't never seen the damn
Speaker 4: kid in the damn sixth grade go to the damn
Speaker 4: California for Little Carolina place damn basketball.
Speaker 5: I didn't. I couldn't go.
Speaker 4: I couldn't go across the day, up the street. It's
Speaker 4: another side of town. Yeah, six your selven Hey.
Speaker 3: When I was growing up, man, we played AU ball.
Speaker 3: I played for the Arkansas Rockets pretty much my entire
Speaker 3: AU season to the last year. I played with the
Speaker 3: Arkansas Hawks. And these are all guys straight out of Arkansas.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 2: Now you get guys they gonna be from summer everywhere.
Speaker 3: They probably a don't even know each other until they
Speaker 3: get together until get ready to play, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 5: So that's the that's the biggest difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Bred When we were coming up play what
Speaker 3: Oh you better get you gotta work in the summer.
Speaker 3: You got to buy summer clothes. Hey, but see I want, Hey,
Speaker 3: but see I wanted.
Speaker 2: We were so poor.
Speaker 3: I want summer clothes year round. Some of my brothers,
Speaker 3: some of my cousins, some of my uncles. Hey, hold on,
Speaker 3: hold on. We were working to man when I was
Speaker 3: when I was young, playing a you man, we threw
Speaker 3: so many swim parties, car washings, TIPI raffles.
Speaker 5: Yeah we did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dealers, you got the fielders, We get it, did
Speaker 4: them too, Joe, hold on, old joke and Joe, I
Speaker 4: know you guys have summer that you have a Sunday suit.
Speaker 4: Don't tell me that outs and some suit that we
Speaker 4: could go churching on Sunday. So we have special and
Speaker 4: that would bread hand me down because we were bread
Speaker 4: one thing. When they had down Easter, everybody was that
Speaker 4: damn church. Oh we got an Easter suit. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: you get too suits. You get too suit for twenty
Speaker 4: nine dollars. Hey, listen, my g was Hey, my grandma
Speaker 4: was the lead sitting here in the choir.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time with my grandma was
Speaker 3: in church lead three four times a week. You hear me, Yeah,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, talking about long whiles Baptist man first and
Speaker 3: look and down down there Higgins in uh In Arkansas man, listen,
Speaker 3: revn Payin.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget man. Church lasts so long, guys.
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, Joe, Grandma would just like that too.
Speaker 6: I'll never forget over Ti Grandma went to mont Allaman
Speaker 6: Baptist Church.
Speaker 4: Jeed By Hack collection joke, white only listen. It's it's
Speaker 4: only one person. It's only one person in the church.
Speaker 6: Who had a better Hack collection than Brandma, and that
Speaker 6: was the past the wife. Hey, I want to say
Speaker 6: the white back collection.
Speaker 2: Was the real deal.
Speaker 4: I want to see how honest all of you are
Speaker 4: when they passed the collection plate in your robe?
Speaker 5: Did you get more money out than you putting in?
Speaker 3: Remon made sure we had a couple of dollars to
Speaker 3: put in, But I ain't gonna lie to you. Sometimes
Speaker 3: I put mine in sometimes.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, hey, all bread Oh Joe, Joe.
Speaker 3: You know the Black Church was started the way they
Speaker 3: passed that pair around the pad. Go on, come on through, Hey,
Speaker 3: got noboddy, wey you talking about this? The waves started
Speaker 3: a sports arena, knowing it started a black church because
Speaker 3: they passed that part that pad around.
Speaker 4: What man, go, let me ask you this. Then, how
Speaker 4: about that marb was saut when he closed the doors.
Speaker 4: They closed the damn door we walked. Yeah, come on, man,
Speaker 4: it's all was funny. I'd have been to church. Well,
Speaker 4: how God gonna get in here? We got him locked down.
Speaker 4: I mean want we wanted to come in and we
Speaker 4: don't lock it by.
Speaker 2: Open the door.
Speaker 3: Hey listen, man, I'm talking about Sunday school, eight, eight
Speaker 3: thirty in the morning.
Speaker 2: We ain't getting our church.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: At four o'clock.
Speaker 3: Man, they are already hooping up there at the park
Speaker 3: by the time I'm riding on.
Speaker 2: I'm looking out the window. Lady, dang, I got you know.
Speaker 5: Let's let's be honest.
Speaker 4: That was the only time that the parents, if you
Speaker 4: had a lot of kids, that's only time the parents
Speaker 4: to really get busy because they see y'all the church.
Speaker 4: They heard about it. They had used to go to
Speaker 4: Sunday school, and then that was about three hours up
Speaker 4: in there. Now I'm just doing man, I'm doing that.
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, that was all you know. Four Sunday,
Speaker 4: four Sunday was all day. Think four Sunday. You're not
Speaker 4: getting out of there. You're not getting out of the
Speaker 4: until like four thirty. You going at nine, you ain't
Speaker 4: getting out there til four thirty for show?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And and how how hungry are you hotel coming out
Speaker 5: of the church? What?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm a a bread and listen, I'm happy. I'm
Speaker 4: hungry when we get out of church. But I know
Speaker 4: we'll be going We're going to Turkey. We're going to
Speaker 4: church and chicken right down on fifty four Street and
Speaker 4: sit right there on the corner the same thing. Hey, Hey,
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie to you. I know, Mida three
Speaker 4: legs fries, the apple pie and a strawberry juice with
Speaker 4: a strawberry soda with no ice.
Speaker 5: My grandma she loved them. Goddamn ocals. Huh from over
Speaker 5: Oho you over?
Speaker 2: But he you know, absolutely no prods and all that
Speaker 2: would right out the grease, right out the grid. Joe,
Speaker 2: what nobody gets?
Speaker 3: I mean, oh, Joe, bread man, My grandpa cooked everything
Speaker 3: under the sun, do you hear me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I know something about some gizzers. Now, yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: like no liberals, but let me know what. Jack Low
Speaker 3: wants the NBA Finals to return to the two three,
Speaker 3: two four. Man, No, what you think, Joe, what you think?
Speaker 2: Bread? No, Nah, that's a tough one man.
Speaker 3: Look because if you going there and win on somebody
Speaker 3: home court, just like Indiana did in game one and
Speaker 3: and and you got three games at home, man, a
Speaker 3: lot of teams ain't coming back from that.
Speaker 2: Uh right.
Speaker 3: They did that because they used to fly commercial, so
Speaker 3: they wanted to make sure that it was it was
Speaker 3: not everybody got their own private plane. So you get
Speaker 3: two games, yo, just stay there, you stay there in
Speaker 3: the city, blah blah blah, and then when you pack
Speaker 3: it up, you come on back.
Speaker 2: But now where everybody got their own flight, Bread and Joe, Nah.
Speaker 5: What was why you want that?
Speaker 4: That make no sense to me because if you are
Speaker 4: if you want all these games, you put yourself on
Speaker 4: the line. You put yourself in a position where you
Speaker 4: want those first two games at home and at the
Speaker 4: other places home and then that done this back and forth.
Speaker 2: I not feeling that.
Speaker 4: I'm not because, as you said, what during the eighties,
Speaker 4: it was hard because we had to fly commercial.
Speaker 5: We had to go from LA to Boston playing the
Speaker 5: Lakers at that time.
Speaker 4: I remember Jack Nicholson being in the first class whips
Speaker 4: and you know, we just kind of hanging out, had
Speaker 4: a good time.
Speaker 5: Them flights with difficult many.
Speaker 4: They were Joe that didn't want to give you no
Speaker 4: damn food. I mean you set up there and on
Speaker 4: top of that you have people damn smoke the cigarettes.
Speaker 5: Right besides so Shannony, you.
Speaker 3: Don't know nothing about that. You want no no, But
Speaker 3: I've heard that you guys that regular people were regular
Speaker 3: people on your flight the way.
Speaker 4: Ran yes, besides you asking you asking you yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: because we were going through the airport. We'll come to
Speaker 4: the airport with no security. Here was the security right here.
Speaker 2: These things you were on.
Speaker 4: Somebody out there, but those security and none of all
Speaker 4: other stuff, no being protected by the NBA, none.
Speaker 1: All.
Speaker 5: It was a different league did and you had to
Speaker 5: protect yourself. You had to be more of an adult.
Speaker 4: You had to really focus on what you did because
Speaker 4: I'm telling you what the eighties, the women in the eighties,
Speaker 4: who they were prevalent.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. We should We had breaking
Speaker 3: news today. Kevin Durant has been traded to the Rockets.
Speaker 3: The Suns traded KD to the Rockets for Jalen Green
Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks, the number ten pick in the twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five draft, five second round picks. KD was at fanatics
Speaker 3: Fest when someone captured the moment when KD and if
Speaker 3: agent Rich Climbing found out. Let's take a look at
Speaker 3: this video, guys. So I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised
Speaker 3: by this. If there's only a handful of teams that
Speaker 3: had maybe some players and to pick the compensation, the
Speaker 3: Suns messed this up.
Speaker 2: Look. I like Matt Ishba. I met him several times.
Speaker 3: He's a great guy, but he gave up too much
Speaker 3: to get Kevin Durant and he was never gonna reciprocate
Speaker 3: that because he's two years older than when you got him.
Speaker 3: So now you're not gonna be able what you gave
Speaker 3: up to get him, You're not gonna be able to
Speaker 3: get that back. That we know you want him gone.
Speaker 3: He knows you want him gone, and everybody else know
Speaker 3: you want him gone. And so oh yo, plus Miami,
Speaker 3: they turned down Miami's package because I told you they
Speaker 3: didn't have enough to get better and have anything.
Speaker 2: TIMI Hodcares Hobvid high smell what.
Speaker 6: And I have a question though some some of you
Speaker 6: just said some some of you just said, right, we
Speaker 6: talked about Yes, Kevin Durrant, one of the prolific scores
Speaker 6: of all time.
Speaker 5: You said Isa did too much to get it.
Speaker 6: But yes, but because the player he is, that's why
Speaker 6: he did what he had to do to actually get
Speaker 6: a player that magnitude. Now, the reason you got him
Speaker 6: was you hope what you put an invested into him,
Speaker 6: you hope it turned out and came to fruition.
Speaker 5: It just didn't.
Speaker 6: And normally when you buy a car, where you buy
Speaker 6: a car, off the car out right and as soon
Speaker 6: as you drive it off, what does it do you appreciate? Well,
Speaker 6: so you understand when you get a player of that
Speaker 6: magnitude as great as he is, and great as he is,
Speaker 6: and he's older.
Speaker 3: Now you're still not gonna get back what you bought
Speaker 3: for him with yours. Is that when you look at
Speaker 3: what you look, you got KD and book. Did you
Speaker 3: really need Bradley Bial? Did you really need Brandley Bill?
Speaker 3: Or do I need to secure my do I need
Speaker 3: to get death for my betch? So now I tell
Speaker 3: you trade more draft capital and give up more players.
Speaker 3: So now they don't have a first round picking til
Speaker 3: twenty thirty one. You do realize it's twenty twenty five, right,
Speaker 3: And that's why I.
Speaker 4: Think it's a good trade for Phoenix stuff. If you're
Speaker 4: talking about Phoenix is gonna be able to do some
Speaker 4: of these things and possibly get a pick and all this.
Speaker 4: I ge't Kevin Durant to me goals there. I think
Speaker 4: instantly to me, he makes them more fire more when
Speaker 4: I think about having a score with them youngm young bulls.
Speaker 5: He got the monk there, I don't. Yeah, I make
Speaker 5: that trade off back.
Speaker 3: I love how I like him better and I like
Speaker 3: him better than Houston that I did. And then then
Speaker 3: in Phoenix you agree because you got you got Shing Gooon,
Speaker 3: you got Armin Thompson, you re signed Van Fleet, you
Speaker 3: you were able to keep Jabari Smith junior. So now
Speaker 3: and plus the problem that Houston had they had the
Speaker 3: second best record in the in the West, fifty two wins,
Speaker 3: but they didn't have a guy that you can give
Speaker 3: the ball to Layton the ball game and go get
Speaker 3: you a bucket.
Speaker 2: You now have that? How long? How long?
Speaker 5: How long do Joe? I know you joke?
Speaker 4: I'd love to be about thirty six thirty seven thirty seven,
Speaker 4: telling them you're gonna let and I love k D,
Speaker 4: but you're you're putting them in a position.
Speaker 5: Where you're going to have him carry your team late
Speaker 5: to go get buckets.
Speaker 3: I think I think he's gonna be I think he's
Speaker 3: naturally gonna do that laden games. I love the fact
Speaker 3: that he's with a bunch of young cats, like some
Speaker 3: grinding young cats who are gonna work hard, play hard,
Speaker 3: and he ain't.
Speaker 2: Gonna have to. I don't think he's gonna have to
Speaker 2: do a lot of heavy lifting. Guys. They got some
Speaker 2: guys who can play over there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: They got some guys gonna come into their own obviously,
Speaker 3: they gonna play through Shing Gong And like you said,
Speaker 3: I'm glad they capt J Barry Smith, another tall, long,
Speaker 3: long guy who can shoot the ball, who can post up,
Speaker 3: who can play multiple positions, and uh led by Van Fleet.
Speaker 2: I think they have a great team over that. I
Speaker 2: think KD can put him over the hump.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be rigorous on him, as
Speaker 3: far as you know him trying to carry that team.
Speaker 3: I think collectively they're gonna do a great job now
Speaker 3: naturally he's gonna be the claim of the crop when
Speaker 3: he comes to score on the basketball because he does
Speaker 3: it so well and it comes so easy to him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, and plus, you got three guys six to
Speaker 3: ten or better. You got six eleven, you got six
Speaker 3: eleven KD you got six eleven. Shin Good, you got
Speaker 3: six ten Jabari Parker, you got In Thompson at six seven.
Speaker 3: You got Van Fleet that can run the I like this,
Speaker 3: I like I like, like I said, I like KD
Speaker 3: here more than I liked him in Phoenix because all
Speaker 3: you had was offense. They didn't have rebounding, they didn't
Speaker 3: have rent protecting, they didn't they didn't have great depth.
Speaker 2: Because think about what you gave up to get it.
Speaker 3: You gave up your best defender in Michael Bridges, you
Speaker 3: gave up a young Cam Johnson. You gave up what
Speaker 3: three first round draft picks. That's an awful lot to
Speaker 3: give up for a guy. And now and now you
Speaker 3: go trade for Bradley Beal, which weekends ue even more
Speaker 3: as far as draft compensation and depth.
Speaker 2: For you, bitch, these teams that played in the NBA Finals,
Speaker 2: what do they have depth? Depth?
Speaker 3: Now they might not be as good as the Big
Speaker 3: three for Phoenix. But Phoenix had once you got, once
Speaker 3: you got booked, and Katie out of the game. Not
Speaker 3: what Hey, look, my question is what is fings gonna
Speaker 3: look like with Devin Booker, Jalen Green and Bradley Bill.
Speaker 3: I mean, them three are pretty much of the same guy,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I said that when they
Speaker 3: got I said that when they got.
Speaker 5: Joe, one of the things could happen.
Speaker 4: And I've been hearing this that there might be a
Speaker 4: possibility of Boston making moves.
Speaker 5: What's gonna happen? Or you're gonna keep for zenas here?
Speaker 5: You have a big hole over there in Phoenix right now?
Speaker 4: Can you go out and get one of those guys
Speaker 4: for Boston and make and get that pick or want
Speaker 4: to give that pick up for maybe tor Zingis to
Speaker 4: put him in that position. You know, Joe that once
Speaker 4: you get trade it to a T doesn't necessarily mean
Speaker 4: you need to stop chack. You know, your bags don't
Speaker 4: need to be unpacked. You need to keep it right
Speaker 4: back because you might get moved on in the new NBA.
Speaker 3: Right Yeah, Rockets fans don't seem to be happy with
Speaker 3: the KD trade One tweeted it happened today was my
Speaker 3: last day as a Rocket fan. I wish the worst
Speaker 3: and the absolute worst of this franchise. Trading a twenty
Speaker 3: three year old superstar for a washed forty yo old
Speaker 3: and genuinely the worst thing you could ever do. I
Speaker 3: hope KDE retires next season and that the franchise completely crumbles.
Speaker 2: Hey KD.
Speaker 3: KD also spoke the k Adams today and said Phoenix
Speaker 3: wanted him gone. Let's take a listen to what Katie
Speaker 3: had to say last one for you. A lot of
Speaker 3: heartbroken Suns fans right now, what would you like to
Speaker 3: say that's not true?
Speaker 5: No, literally heartbroken Suns sound right over there.
Speaker 8: I just I just felt like, yeah, that means they
Speaker 8: wanted me to go. So it's like, I'm glad we
Speaker 8: both you know, they got what they wanted, what I wanted,
Speaker 8: so we can move on and good luck to them
Speaker 8: going forward. And I always remember my time there, but
Speaker 8: we're on something else.
Speaker 3: Hey, Yeah, I don't see nothing wrong with what he said,
Speaker 3: because it wasn't him who came to them asking and
Speaker 3: looking for a trade. He found out they were trying
Speaker 3: to trade him. So as as as athletes, we know
Speaker 3: when you it's basically saying you don't want us. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's somebody out there who will take me. It's somebody
Speaker 3: outide who do want me. And uh he was able
Speaker 3: to give him on a few teams that he wanted
Speaker 3: to go play with. So give a son's credit for
Speaker 3: even trading him to uh Houston, Texas, to Texas because
Speaker 3: that was one of the stops that he wanted to go. Well,
Speaker 3: he knew the Suns, excuse me, the Rockets, the Spurs
Speaker 3: and uh no, yeah, the Rockets, the Spurs Brooklyn were
Speaker 3: really the only the handful of team that had the
Speaker 3: draft capitol to go get it.
Speaker 2: So he had no choice. I mean he he couldn't
Speaker 2: go to Miami.
Speaker 3: Come Miami, don't have anything to offer for your two
Speaker 3: best players are untouchable, Tyler, he wrote, and bam, and
Speaker 3: you see the package Hobby hawkir junior Hobbitch hot spells.
Speaker 2: It's like absolutely not absolutely dude.
Speaker 4: Dude, what did we think that because they had to
Speaker 4: make that move, how how bad they were offensively indeed,
Speaker 4: and the only person other than the book that you're
Speaker 4: gonna get anything more when that team was King d
Speaker 4: So in his case, they had to make that move.
Speaker 5: They had to go out and say, dude, you you
Speaker 5: can go on. And here's the thing that me and
Speaker 5: Joe love about this shore. Where'd they go? Oh, I know,
Speaker 5: to a damn state that they ain't got, no damn state,
Speaker 5: income town. How about that? How about that?
Speaker 3: There was a back and forth Bugie Cousins a few
Speaker 3: days ago regarding the report the sons had multiple fist
Speaker 3: fights in the locker room. Kevin rad says, I have
Speaker 3: to contest this ninety four footer. Uh, there's some bull
Speaker 3: drive to.
Speaker 2: Throw on us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were trashed this year,
Speaker 2: ha haha. But we never got close to this. Never.
Speaker 3: The Phoenix Sun reportedly had multiple fist fights in the
Speaker 3: locker room her Boogie Cousins. Uh. The bookie says the
Speaker 3: source was one of your teammates killers. I ain't referencing
Speaker 3: you refer to you say that is for the other homies.
Speaker 5: Damn.
Speaker 4: Hey, anytime a unc Joe Bread, anytime something like that
Speaker 4: get out, you know it always it always comes from
Speaker 4: from one of the players, it from Yeah, it comes
Speaker 4: from the locker room always. That's the only that's the
Speaker 4: only time I hate my stuff. I hate stuff like
Speaker 4: that happened too.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: You know, I hate when dude. I hope when dudes
Speaker 4: beat chatty patty. When some goes on the locker room,
Speaker 4: it's supposed to stay right there's supposed to stay right
Speaker 4: there in CAD's gotta be pillow talking and okay, fist fight, man,
Speaker 4: everybody fight, who don't fight? It happens in training camp.
Speaker 4: Did y'all fight in training camp?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 3: You know, I mean it happens all the time. Whatever
Speaker 3: happened in the locker room, And if you didn't care,
Speaker 3: if they didn't capture.
Speaker 5: No, it doesn't, it doesn't.
Speaker 2: It doesn't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: But here's what happened. Does you say it right now?
Speaker 4: It's pitdle talk. You go tell your wife something, You
Speaker 4: go tell your girlfriend. You know how those stories go.
Speaker 4: You tell her, she tells somebody else, and then this
Speaker 4: all is going in the woods.
Speaker 3: So a lot of times what we have in the
Speaker 3: n b A our wives and girlfriends.
Speaker 4: And now it's moms who have a lot of ship
Speaker 4: going over.
Speaker 5: Because they have they have a lot of power.
Speaker 4: Now, Joe, it's not like back in the day, back
Speaker 4: in the day, girlfriends were quiet. They said nothing about
Speaker 4: the little damn basket. They talked about everything else, but
Speaker 4: not about basketball. Now the gleamed the damn game. I'm like, really,
Speaker 4: you donna play it?
Speaker 5: I can see you on the other side sitting I didn't.
Speaker 3: Reports say the Sons will look to reroute Jalen Green
Speaker 3: to another team.
Speaker 4: I can see that that makes sense. But hey, hold on,
Speaker 4: I need a draft. Huh hold on, I'm tripping. Now
Speaker 4: you trade KD for Jalen Green? Now you want to
Speaker 4: shoot Jayen Green somewhere else? And then I see reports
Speaker 4: day also about a buyer with Bradley Beal.
Speaker 2: What the hell going on?
Speaker 3: Cause, oh, Joe Bradley See Bradley Bill and Lebron are
Speaker 3: one of the two players, two players that have no trade.
Speaker 3: So you can't move Bradley Bill where he doesn't want
Speaker 3: to go. So the best thing is, like, you know what,
Speaker 3: let's just go ahead and bite this bullet, get up
Speaker 3: off this and move in a different direction.
Speaker 4: So how would Bradley Bill look down here, mammy? Since
Speaker 4: he is a prolific scorer. He is a scorer, He's
Speaker 4: gonna get eighty ninety percent of his money. He can
Speaker 4: look good wherever he would choose to go.
Speaker 5: Hey, that means me, let me, let me taket Bradley,
Speaker 5: real quick man.
Speaker 2: They're trying to get people in Miami.
Speaker 4: Hey, well listen, we can use a score like that. Now,
Speaker 4: look at what he did on the Wizards, and look
Speaker 4: what happened. It's too many people touching the goddamn bo it.
Speaker 3: Don't it, don't it, don't take it. Don't take nothing
Speaker 3: to be a good score on a bad team. You
Speaker 3: talk about you talking about the heat. No, they don't
Speaker 3: take anything bread, you know, a bad team, It don't
Speaker 3: take much to be a top not scored because who
Speaker 3: cares you getting yards beat out anyway?
Speaker 2: So don't nobody care.
Speaker 4: That that that's that's the one where they'll say. I
Speaker 4: said that one time to coach Patino. One time I
Speaker 4: was talking about Paul and I was talking about Antoine,
Speaker 4: and that's when they were beating the out loud themselves
Speaker 4: and I was I was one of the reports. I said,
Speaker 4: so Paul and Antoine, you know, they got their numbers
Speaker 4: to night, coach, and he turned to me. I was
Speaker 4: just embarrassed I've ever been, he said, turn me. He said,
Speaker 4: numbers are to loose. I don't give a ship about
Speaker 4: them scoring no basket. So so you're right in the NBA,
Speaker 4: on a bad team, you can look really good scoring
Speaker 4: the basketball because you're the only thing they have.
Speaker 5: But when you plung that into a good team do
Speaker 5: you can get wins because of that? And you can
Speaker 5: see what having a Bradley Bill. He leaves.
Speaker 4: Washington and goes to everybody said, oh that he there,
Speaker 4: that's the b end of ben because score.
Speaker 5: He goes now to Phoenix. He ain't shooting that way
Speaker 5: no more. He ain't getting them.
Speaker 4: He ain't getting what you say, Joe Beck and then
Speaker 4: he getting touched like that, you're gonna get it.
Speaker 2: You don't get to take all them bad shots.
Speaker 3: You don't get to come down there and say, you
Speaker 3: know what, I'm gonna get me twenty five thirty shots
Speaker 3: to night no matter what. On a good team with
Speaker 3: other good players, it's not like that, especially when you
Speaker 3: have multiple good players on said teams. Now, maybe if
Speaker 3: he goes if it could be a situation like okay,
Speaker 3: see Ja Doubs and Shade gonna get the lion's share
Speaker 3: of the shots. Like tonight, Shae was eight of twenty
Speaker 3: seven J doubles seven or twenty. Now they got forty
Speaker 3: seven of the eighty seven shots. Two guys took over
Speaker 3: half the shots. Yeah, okay, but now you put Bradley Beal,
Speaker 3: you put it with KD and Book, ain't enough bad
Speaker 3: shots to go around.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be looking at you crazy.
Speaker 3: You come down taking bad shots, some of the bad
Speaker 3: shots that you were able to take and get away with.
Speaker 2: When you were with the Wizards.
Speaker 3: I agree, when you're playing with other great players, man,
Speaker 3: you have to try to find a way to be efficient.
Speaker 3: I take your guys back to two thousand and five,
Speaker 3: two thousand and four, when I was.
Speaker 2: Playing with the Phoene s soun Nash was the MVP.
Speaker 1: You had a.
Speaker 3: Mary Stott Myer was a Premier All Star. Shunned Mary.
Speaker 3: It was a Premier All Star. And as your fourth option,
Speaker 3: which was me, I wanted to be efficient.
Speaker 2: I shot.
Speaker 3: I shot four to eight percent from the three, and
Speaker 3: every time I took a shot, I wanted to I
Speaker 3: wanted to make it count because I know I was
Speaker 3: gonna get many of them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be ye possible.
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 3: I knew listen, I knew the ones that I did get, Brad,
Speaker 3: I had to be inefficient, you hear me, So I
Speaker 3: did what I had to do that. Yeah, and I
Speaker 3: only got a chance to play on that with them.
Speaker 3: Guys were Nash for one year and I thought we
Speaker 3: had a special, special team, but unfortunately we got some
Speaker 3: new ownership that came in and you know, thought otherwise.
Speaker 5: But Joe that that made it possible for.
Speaker 4: You to go to another team though, because you ad
Speaker 4: because you highlight what you were able to do on
Speaker 4: that particular team with not a lot of shots.
Speaker 5: And I think that's why you were able to go
Speaker 5: someplace else. And about sudden, you know, you.
Speaker 3: Get that I sold Joe thing. But look, it goes
Speaker 3: back to what Unk said and I got when I
Speaker 3: got to Atlanta. My first couple of years, I'm averaging
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, twenty six a game.
Speaker 2: But here if the character we can the noose believe,
Speaker 2: beat up out Joe.
Speaker 5: And when you when you were in Phoenix started out
Speaker 5: with the five.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, he was uh way before his time. Oh, Joe,
Speaker 3: the boy was so raw when he came came in
Speaker 3: straight out of high school. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 3: came in man, I'm talking about just running through casts.
Speaker 2: He was going through you. It wasn't going around you,
Speaker 2: he was going through you.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about I've seen him go ahead ahead with
Speaker 3: Tim Duncan, Kevin, Chris Webber. I'm talking about the elites. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was special man, He's special. Oh no, then we
Speaker 3: that's your problem. That's Lake Wales. That's all you all
Speaker 3: about is Lake Wales, Lake Welles Yeah, Florida, Lake Wales, Florida,
Speaker 3: and Lake welles Ford, Florida.
Speaker 5: Now that must be you mean Lakeland, Lakeland or Lake Wales, which.
Speaker 2: I think because he always hollered bout him. ROYD Jones,
Speaker 2: all this all.
Speaker 5: This, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, that's right
Speaker 5: up the road. That's right up the road. How all
Speaker 5: these dem athletes come out of there Florida. Oh it's
Speaker 5: the water, baby, It ain't nothing but the water.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Listen. We we produce some different down here, We produce
Speaker 5: some different down here.
Speaker 3: Weather, the weather. Look look at what the Look at
Speaker 3: the best athletes they come out of what warm weather? California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana. Look,
Speaker 3: I mean, because you got you got like ideal you
Speaker 3: got ideal climate.
Speaker 2: And you know us, we like warm weather. We don't
Speaker 2: like the code.
Speaker 5: We like.
Speaker 2: We like warm weather. And for the most part, you
Speaker 2: can do a lot of things a lot a lot longer.
Speaker 3: So you know, you get warm weather a lot longer,
Speaker 3: and you don't get those you know, those those long
Speaker 3: winners in short summers. You get long summers.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But if you go back, look at that, look
Speaker 3: at the foot look at basketball. Let's just take basketball.
Speaker 3: Uh especially football ain't even close. All the football players
Speaker 3: from the outside California, Texas, Losinganda, Georgia, Florida, South Kentery,
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But I think that's what it has
Speaker 3: to do. It has to do with if you go
Speaker 3: back and look at it, look at where most of
Speaker 3: the athletes come from.
Speaker 5: Damn ils from North Carolina. I'm sorry, come on, you.
Speaker 2: Get a little basketball, y'all got a few.
Speaker 4: And guarantee you North Carolina might have the rate this
Speaker 4: basketball a lot of basketball players ever put together.
Speaker 2: I said, more than Chicago.
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, I'm taking Jordan Jordan morrisey, thro.
Speaker 2: Wh wh what you it used to be New York.
Speaker 2: You don't used to us with the hot.
Speaker 4: Dominique, Dominique Fro, Don't Carolina Buck Williams, Dominique, James, they Flo.
Speaker 5: There's a there's a ton of guys you don't even
Speaker 5: talking about. Bob McIndoe, one of the greatest of all time.
Speaker 5: He from Greensboro.
Speaker 4: I mean, there were so many great players, like hey,
Speaker 4: David Thompson that people won't even talk about it anymore.
Speaker 5: He was before George. He was damnit. I tell you what.
Speaker 4: I was guarding god Walk and I was swiveling and
Speaker 4: I was going back and forth, and somebody said love
Speaker 4: and I'm I'm guarding it pretty good.
Speaker 5: And then I turn around. I look, I tell you what.
Speaker 5: I can tell you what size shoe?
Speaker 4: Hee wo?
Speaker 5: Because I was father.
Speaker 2: Jenny you once I was thirteen. That's all I saw
Speaker 2: you get up
Speaker 1: The volume