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Speaker 2: We have a new NBA champ.

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Speaker 3: The OKC Thunder take down the Indiana Pacers one to

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Speaker 3: three to ninety seven to win their first championship. The

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Speaker 3: celebration is going ongoing. Shay is probably gonna win the MVP.

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Speaker 3: Great series. It goes seven game Tyres Halliburton goes down

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Speaker 3: late in the first quarter, and you know, and I

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Speaker 3: think that everybody's gonna say they had Halle. Maybe the

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Speaker 3: outcomes we would have been different, but we'll never know.

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Speaker 3: The OKC Thunder cap off a great regular season, sixty

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Speaker 3: eight wins in the regular season and they take home

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Speaker 3: the championship one oh three ninety one over the Pacers

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Speaker 3: four to three, seven game series. What an our standing game.

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Speaker 3: We have a jam packed show for you tonight. Y'all

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Speaker 3: know me. I am your favorite m Shannon Shark, my

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Speaker 3: Fame Outerie Pro Bowler All Pro. That's Chad o Cho

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Speaker 3: Senko Johnson, the third member of our team, University of

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Speaker 3: Arkansas lum Arkansas native body raised her he yells Iso

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Speaker 3: Joe Johnson and joining us to cap off this championship

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Speaker 3: week y'all knowing University of Charlotte Finals MVP of nineteen

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Speaker 2: Here years, ladies, Gentleman Cedric Cornbread and.

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Speaker 4: I really felt it was. It was a great series.

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Speaker 4: Nobody picked Indiana. Indiana deserved so much more credit. But

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Speaker 4: you know, when you lose your best player.

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Speaker 5: Chad would tell you lose your.

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Speaker 4: Best player that early in the game, you were never

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Speaker 4: able to recome. I don't care what happened that. It

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Speaker 4: was more like it was at the end of the game.

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Speaker 4: That's that's gonna have. My buddy Terry On kept telling

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Speaker 4: them that, no, no, they're gonna lose the best player

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Speaker 4: that can still win. When you lose your best player,

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Speaker 4: this hardness held me. I got to use one of

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Speaker 4: the chance. The goddamn man got hurt. That's what he did.

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Speaker 4: Goddamn hurt.

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Speaker 6: Hey, hey, Brad corn Red, I'm glad you. I'm glad

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Speaker 6: you said that, and and and that.

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Speaker 4: That speaks to the fact that obviously Joe and I

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Speaker 4: had a bet on I'm not sure if we put

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Speaker 4: any money.

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Speaker 6: Uh, we put a wage on him. But honestly, Joe,

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Speaker 6: if you're a real one, if you're a real one.

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Speaker 5: The fact that I got hurt, Let me, let let me,

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Speaker 5: let me stay, stay with me.

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Speaker 1: Damn if you're real, if you was a real one,

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Speaker 1: the fact that the pacers were handicapped and Halliburton got hurt.

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Speaker 5: You taking my money knowing that the pace was handed.

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Speaker 2: And I guess, I guess I ain't a real one.

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I need run it run. Ain't trying to

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Speaker 2: hear that pread?

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Speaker 5: What are you talking about talking about?

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Speaker 2: You know what, Joe, what you're doing?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 3: So Joe had a big win today. We'll talk about

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Speaker 3: that a little later. But okay, See wins his first championship.

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Speaker 3: Now they do have a championship. They left the Seattle

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Speaker 5: Denis Johnson was there, so Gun.

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Speaker 3: But ok see caps off for a great regular season,

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Speaker 3: sixty eight wins in the regular season, and they finish

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Speaker 2: They have the MVP of the league and Shae Gilgers.

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Speaker 3: And they win it one O three to ninety one,

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Speaker 3: four to three, seven game series.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Joe, I'm gonna go to you first. I thought

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Speaker 3: I thought the game turn in the third quarter seven

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Speaker 3: turnovers by Pacers, none by the Thunder thirty four to twenty.

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Speaker 3: mean it was simple stuff. You know, you're going around

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Speaker 3: turnovers like that. As Brad said, when you're under man

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Speaker 3: your best player is down you nearly You need to

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Speaker 3: play a damn near perfect ball game, and the one

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Speaker 3: thing you can't do is turn the ball over. Joe,

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Speaker 3: when you saw this early in the game, Tyre's Halliburton

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Speaker 2: But we talked about this.

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Speaker 3: I said, man, we gotta be careful with this calf

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Speaker 2: It's this calf.

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Speaker 3: It's his calf, and you saw him with to make

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Speaker 2: He's not coming back.

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Speaker 3: But Okay, see Joe, they were the best team from

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Speaker 3: was Hey, look, it's been a great series.

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Speaker 2: First off, we gotta give we got to get a

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm talking about throughout the whole postseason Ocho Bred.

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Speaker 2: You know, they've been obviously resilient.

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Speaker 2: They knew what time it was. I thought him got

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Speaker 3: They were making shots and it was a Tito title

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Speaker 3: If Brad said, when you're under man, your best player

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Speaker 2: He's not coming back.

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Speaker 3: Okay, see Joe, they were the best team from start

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Speaker 2: Yeah they did. It was Hey, look it's been a

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Speaker 2: great series. Man.

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Speaker 3: First off, we gotta give we got to get a

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Speaker 3: But I thought he came out aggressive and you know,

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Speaker 5: I thought him Yakam was pretty aggressive.

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Speaker 3: They were making shots and it was a Tito title

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Speaker 3: game early and like you said in that in that

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Speaker 3: okay See a lot of credit. They did what they

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Speaker 3: it was a great series, fellas a great series.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe you then glory to God when you

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Speaker 4: were about seeing all that. That's how he always thought

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Speaker 5: You didn't even go there.

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Speaker 4: I think it was it was a tremendous series. It

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Speaker 4: was a series I think Carlile coached his ass off.

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Speaker 4: I think, man, Jim McConnell was what Joe would say, Joe,

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Speaker 4: he was a water bug.

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Speaker 5: And I know I can hear you.

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Speaker 4: I know you and your damn your house as somebody.

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Speaker 5: I know that's what happened, Oh Joe.

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Speaker 4: When when games go like this, to me, it's almost

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Speaker 4: scripted at the end.

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Speaker 5: Okay, see had nothing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I look at Indiana, had nothing to loose,

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Speaker 4: They had nothing to lose. They played early, they played

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Speaker 4: well early, but you could see the bubble that all

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Speaker 4: the air just squabbed the bubble. When when it happened

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Speaker 4: and the entry, the same thing happened with the Celtics

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Speaker 4: went take them with them. It was just a matter

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Speaker 4: of time before the team was over.

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Speaker 5: Great O Joe, Man, I'm hurt. Huh, I'm hurt.

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Speaker 4: Obviously Halliburton coming out of aggressive as as he did,

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Speaker 4: I really felt and I I wholeheartedly really felt good,

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Speaker 4: not just about this game, but about them coming away

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Speaker 4: with that win.

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Speaker 5: And I think that would have been the outcome had

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Speaker 5: he not gotten hurt. T J.

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Speaker 6: McConnell played very well. See I can played very well,

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Speaker 6: and the fact once he went down, they were still competed. Uh,

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Speaker 6: they still compete.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: They didn't get the game very close, but the turnovers

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Speaker 6: it hurt. And not only did the turnovers hurt, they scored.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the thunderwa able to score points on those turnovers.

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Speaker 6: And I mean, it is what it is. I'm just

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Speaker 6: I'm just kind of sad. I'm kind of sad because

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Speaker 6: I thought Joe was a better friend in fact that

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Speaker 6: the paces were handicapped, and he still is willing to

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Speaker 6: take take that money from me, you know, it just

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Speaker 6: I mean it is Hey, hey.

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Speaker 3: Joe, Joe telling you lose your job. The mortgage company

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Speaker 2: You and me? Yeah got you? Yeah to no one surprise.

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Speaker 4: You said you would take joke of SGA now yeah

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Because your kids got a ring too, You remember

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Speaker 3: Every last one of those guys that started in OKC,

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Speaker 3: Blaze you led by.

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Speaker 5: You didn't mentioned one guy.

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Speaker 4: Who would sparticularly effective in that thing, and it was

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Speaker 4: I know, Shannon, that hurts you because the you spell

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Speaker 3: On Hey, unc Brid, I think y'all made great points,

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Speaker 2: You know the others that they played well.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, you know the more likely whoever bench plays well,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: If he plays well plus Shay and you got Wigans

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Speaker 3: got consistent play from check Homeridge, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Joe, No that hold on you before you

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Speaker 4: go cornbread. I mean, Joe, listen, you talk about dynasty

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Speaker 4: right now after after the team don't The one way

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Speaker 5: Now they just win a championship.

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Speaker 4: Now what happens if you have players that deserve and

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Speaker 4: because they's no shades getting getting ready to get paid.

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Speaker 5: So players are gonna how you how you're gonna say,

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't get that feeling from Okay, seeing those guys.

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Speaker 3: He's a close knitch group. And I think when when

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Speaker 3: you win, oh, Joe, you have to go in the

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Speaker 3: luxury tat. You know, everybody gets paid. That's you know

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Speaker 5: You can't.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's good, it's good to say, Joe, but

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Speaker 5: A lot of times.

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Speaker 4: They ain't looking at they might think that they might

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Speaker 4: Teams give a chance in their minds. Sometimes they have

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Speaker 4: when you talk about dynasties. I look away. Just last

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Speaker 5: Begin with Tail and Brown and all those players. What happened?

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Speaker 4: This is this is whether and and the NBA loves

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Speaker 3: The fans don't like it though, because the thing you

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Speaker 2: And so when he had kids and they moved away.

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Speaker 3: They don't live in Pittsburgh, they're somewhere else, but they're

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Speaker 3: They're still Packer fans though. The Cowboys they just so

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Speaker 3: that's how it has to be. But I think the

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Speaker 3: show that you're on Joe and Brad.

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Speaker 5: You know this. I can give you that extra. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get hey, you go somewhere else, you gonna

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Speaker 3: Now do you want four years and one sixty or

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Speaker 5: And you need to say that about small market teams

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Speaker 4: What is what was Miami? Is that a small market?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they don't do no rating teams and the ratings,

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Speaker 3: but for those lady were terrible. Go look at look

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Speaker 3: Look and they had great. Look at you had you had,

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Speaker 3: you had Parker, you had you nobly. It's it's different

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Speaker 5: NBA small I give you that. I look at Miami.

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: No, it's not like like, well I'm look at small markets.

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Speaker 5: Okay right now, and you're talking about them.

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Speaker 4: Some of the most spare weather fans I ever saw

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Speaker 7: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure, I mean yes, but the

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Speaker 5: Small market in your loyalty and this heat culture.

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Speaker 3: If you don't win, them fans not coming because there's

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Speaker 3: Live's your question? What else are you gonna do it? Okay,

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis five hundred. So now in Miami, I got the beach,

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Speaker 3: oh Joe, I got South Beach.

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Speaker 2: I got so much I can do La Bred. You

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Speaker 3: So if you don't win in those markets, oh bro,

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Speaker 5: Lit the only people that will go.

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Speaker 6: the Miami's, maybe maybe Houston, I'm.

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00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 5: Not sure if you can Chicago, Chicago another one. And

441
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 5: the fans ain't coming.

442
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 4: They're not sitting through that, They're not spending their harder

443
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 4: and money, especially in this goddamn economy. You mean to

444
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 4: tell you the economy messed up and we losing.

445
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 5: Nah?

446
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 3: Uh, it's saying small markets New Orleans, Okay, See Milwaukee,

447
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 3: San Antonio, Utah, Indiana, Charlotte.

448
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 5: Hey does that change?

449
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 4: Hey?

450
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 3: Young?

451
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 4: For TV markets? We talked about TV markets, Now I

452
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 4: got you. I have a question too.

453
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 6: Also, yes with okay, like where people always want to

454
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,719
Speaker 6: go and play no matter what. They love to go

455
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 6: play in Houston, they love to go play in Miami,

456
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 6: they love going play in LA.

457
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 2: Yes?

458
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 6: Does does the thunder and EDG winning the championship? Does

459
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 6: that ex suit us from the outside want to go playing?

460
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 5: Okay?

461
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 3: See, there's only one thing. What else abody gonna do that?

462
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 3: If I don't go so other? What other pro sporting

463
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 3: of it? Can I go to an Oklahoma city? Besides

464
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 3: see in Miami?

465
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 2: I can go?

466
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,959
Speaker 3: Can I go see something. Can I see footballs? Can

467
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: I see the mab go to the rodeo?

468
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 5: Shenley, go to the.

469
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: Rodeo?

470
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 3: Remember San Aytonio have to hit the road every year.

471
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 3: Bread they got the goto. What's your color? Coming to rodeo?

472
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: Coming through Indiana. So it's like Milwaukee. What else are

473
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 3: you gonna do with Milwaukee besides go see the Bucks, flate,

474
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 3: go to the Harty Day with some museum. If so,

475
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 3: there's only I mean when people have families and kids,

476
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 3: they don't just want to like, hey, hey babe, I

477
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: ma home, what are we gonna do tonight? Everything's boarded up.

478
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 3: I mean, you got kids, they want to do stuff,

479
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 3: and it's cold. They can't do anything after September Day? Inside?

480
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 3: How did Pittsburgh you such your problem? This is such

481
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 3: a small market, and you talk about the NFL, But

482
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: how do they do it? Considering that what you gonna

483
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 3: do ain't nothing. You got the Pirates, You got the Pirates,

484
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 3: and you got and you got and you got the Steelers.

485
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 3: And when the Steelers came up, the Steelers thanks about

486
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: the early seventies, they dominated, and so now they're they're

487
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 3: putting that imprint on you. Man, the Steelers, Man the Steelers,

488
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: the Steelers, the Steelers, and so kids that had kids,

489
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 3: they grew up Steelers fans. I grew up a Steelers fans.

490
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 3: My mom was a Steelers fan because they're always on TV.

491
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 3: Same thing with the Raiders. Oakland Oakland small, it's small,

492
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 3: but they that's all you saw. And so once you

493
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 3: got an age and you had kids, what do kids do?

494
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: Take you to the game. Hey, they got a Cubs

495
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 3: jersey on, or they got a Celtics jersey on. If so,

496
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 3: you just it just passes down, passes down. I like it.

497
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: I look, Brad, you said the NBA like this. But

498
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 3: we've seen we haven't seen anything like this. Seven consecutive

499
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: different champs. We don't see anything this endiculous series. They

500
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: weren't Love Island. Love Island got better ratings.

501
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep it a stack with y'all.

502
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: Man.

503
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, hey, it was a good series. Hey Chad,

504
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 3: don't they don't get up Sam with the chat. But

505
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, look, love that bread. That really happened.

506
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 3: Let me give you a stat right here. J dubbed

507
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: this season he was an All Star, All Defense, All

508
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 3: NBA and he's a champion. He's the youngest player since

509
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 3: Kobe Brandt to achieved all four of those in the

510
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: same season.

511
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: This is what Scottie Pippen said about Jayleen Williams.

512
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 3: Uh. I don't even want to put a cap on

513
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 3: him and say that he's going to be me. I

514
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 3: see him being greater if I can say that, just

515
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 3: because where the game is today, the h they have

516
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: offensive freedom.

517
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 2: We didn't have that. We mostly ran out of a system.

518
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: These guys have the freedom to shoot the three balls

519
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 3: and do things of that nature. Players are playing in

520
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 3: today's game have a chance to be better than players

521
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 3: in the past because of the ability to shoot the ball.

522
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: Wow wow, somebody said it. Oh no, But anyway, if

523
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 3: this kid continued to shoot the three ball the way

524
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 3: he shoots, I'm going to sit here and say and

525
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: argue with nobody, say he can't he can compare to us,

526
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: because you can't.

527
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: He wins.

528
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Joe, let let Joe, let Joe try me.

529
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 3: First thing, you go brand and then oh Joe, here,

530
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: what you gotta say, Joe?

531
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: You muted? Can you? I mean out?

532
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 7: Yeah?

533
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

534
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 3: Man. I agree with Pipling saying because back in his day.

535
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: You know they played with two traditional bigs. Yeah now

536
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: and today's game especially Okay, see they don't have nobody

537
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 3: posting up siously, you know those guys are picking pop

538
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: guys and Jade up and Shaye. They kind of get

539
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 3: to they get free will as supposed to when they

540
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 3: shoot how they want to sho shoot so they can

541
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: give it to you.

542
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 2: However they won't.

543
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 3: I think that the game is a lot more wide

544
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: open now, and yes, you they do have a lot

545
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 3: more freedom than guys had back back when Scotty was playing.

546
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 5: Uh Joe, I.

547
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 4: Think the game is tailor made for you right now

548
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 4: because it is an ISO game.

549
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 5: It is one on one game, and.

550
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 4: If you are a guy can put the ball on

551
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 4: the floor, you can score up from the outside.

552
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 5: It's almost impossible to stop you.

553
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 4: There's found that I played when we had Michel Parrish,

554
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 4: myself Berg we were post up guys and we stayed

555
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: right on that block, so we getdn't.

556
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 5: We weren't trying to trick you.

557
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 4: We're just gonna beat the hell out of you in

558
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 4: the damn post that nobody.

559
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 5: Nobody doubt say anymore shit anymore.

560
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 4: It's a dead game. So because of that the game

561
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 4: has changed so much in a way. And Scotty, I

562
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 4: appreciate Scotty giving up up like that, but I team

563
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 4: wouldn't like to see. And this is Joe and old Joe,

564
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 4: and I would love to see what would happened if

565
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 4: he had been playing during the eighties when guys were

566
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 4: throwing his ass to the ground. Now, what all this

567
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 4: all this? He's getting you up in the air, faking

568
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 4: you doing all this stuff. You know how to truck

569
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 4: played like that? The tray used to play two fouls.

570
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 4: One guy will hit you, and what's if the other

571
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: guy free?

572
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 5: You know what, Joe? That gave the other guy freedom

573
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 5: to knock the hell other.

574
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 4: So so he would take another special guy. And I'm

575
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 4: not taking away from what Shake does. I'm really not,

576
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 4: but I'd like to see what he do with hand checking. Joe,

577
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 4: there you played in I'd like to see what he

578
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: would do right now when it came to hard fire.

579
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 4: You think you see some of these files they called

580
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 4: to day the guy said lay for a foul when

581
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 4: the guy brushed in the hit and then during my

582
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 4: particular ror, they would have laughed at your ass like, no,

583
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 4: you ain't bleeding when your eyes say, now, oh Joe,

584
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 4: if you ain't, if you ain't missing a tooth or nothing,

585
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 4: you won't believe from the nose.

586
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 5: They're gonna call him that. So I would love to

587
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 5: know how Shay. I'm not taking away anything from no hatred.

588
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: I love to see how they played during the physical game,

589
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: the way it was played during that time.

590
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 6: Hey right, I like what Pippen said, Uncle Joe and

591
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 6: bred I like what he said. But the funny thing

592
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 6: about it is there's certain players regards to error, regards

593
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 6: to era based on skill setting, DNA and what they

594
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 6: bring to the table in that specific era. With regards

595
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 6: of what are you put certain individuals in they're gonna

596
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 6: succeed regardles of how the game truth, whether it's in

597
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 6: the eighties, whether it's in the nineties, whether in the

598
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 6: two thousand, or whether it's now.

599
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 5: A player like HG eight he will thrive.

600
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 6: He will still thrive and just adapt to the circumstance

601
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 6: and the environment and the style of playing which they

602
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 6: played if he was in the eighties or in the

603
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 6: nineties when they were a lot more physical.

604
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 4: The same thing goes with pipping. It's hard to compare errors.

605
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: You really can't do it. You can't, era, UNC, when

606
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 4: you played football, the rule change, the rule change exactly,

607
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 4: the rule changes.

608
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 6: Obviously, you think about the game of basketball, right, everything

609
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 6: is ice on now.

610
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 5: Back then the Jordan era, the Pipping era.

611
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: They played with two bigs back in your day, UNC,

612
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: God damn, look at the yards you got.

613
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 5: You gotta goddamn Jackson got a bus in the Hall

614
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 5: of Fame, and god damn.

615
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: Ken.

616
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 5: Right, and you've played during the Running Game era.

617
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 6: Imagine if you played right now, you and your prime

618
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 6: and they throwing the ball twenty million times every goddamn game.

619
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 4: Deal level, Ken, you left from that, you're about to

620
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 4: get them pay or something bright down.

621
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, I see I.

622
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: See them guys making the tight ends, making seventeen eighteen

623
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: a year.

624
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: I do see that.

625
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: Hey, uh, I mean just goes to show you just

626
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: how well the thunder to play defense. Indiana shot the

627
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: ball better from the field, better from the three point line,

628
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: better from the free throw line, and they out rebounded them.

629
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: But they had one glaring stat They triple them up

630
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: and turnovers twenty one to seven. That is the difference

631
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: in the ball game.

632
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: Will kill you in any game you play and I

633
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 4: don't care what's for the days you played football, you

634
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 4: turn that ball over. You played basket and you turn

635
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: it over, and it's going to be a recipe for

636
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: you to lose, because those are wasted opportunities. A lot

637
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 4: of people laughed when they talked about the self excusing

638
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: at threes, and I talked to Jae Mizzula about this.

639
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 5: He said, Max, I rather formed to shoot the.

640
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: Three, then turn the damn ball over, because that therefore

641
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: you wouldn't get the shop opportunity.

642
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 5: And I'm like, damn, that does make sense.

643
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: Though you at least you shoot it, you get an

644
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 4: opportunity to go in. But when you turn the ball

645
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 4: over in a live situation, your defense is lopsided, gone

646
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 4: back the other way, and it just kills you. And

647
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: you can see it hurt Indiana all day.

648
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 5: T J. Mccollos was a smart player, Joe.

649
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 4: They surprised me when he crossed the court at that

650
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 4: time at half court and it got double.

651
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: And he pushed the ball out.

652
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're smarter than that. You ain't. It's a

653
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 5: point guard. You ain't spost to cross that getting.

654
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: Pinned on the sideline. He got kept he kept getting

655
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: pinned in the corner. He's only so tall, so when

656
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: they come with a double team, he's not getting out

657
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: of that because you can't feel over him. Hey look,

658
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: you had to know that he was gonna make some mistake. Guys,

659
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: they asked an awful lot of him. You know what

660
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: they did went down, so he probably he ain't accustomed

661
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: to play. He since the first quarter. Tyreeves went down

662
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: in the first quarter, and now TJ had to step

663
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: in and be the guy against the starters.

664
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: He ain't going against their backup.

665
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 5: Now.

666
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: Now he's going against j Doub, he's going against Door,

667
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: He's going He's end up with the trees with Chat.

668
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: So it's a difference you're asking him to do. You

669
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: asking him to be TJ.

670
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: But I need more of that from you, and I

671
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: need you to give it to me against their war

672
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: they're red, Joe.

673
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 5: Let me let me ask you this, Joe.

674
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 4: Some of them players you used to play with when

675
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 4: you're winning on your team and they be talking all

676
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 4: that ship and then they getting the.

677
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: Game and need a real game.

678
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 5: You go, man, what's happen? Hey?

679
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: Hey? They want be damn questions touch for you? Hey, hey, hey,

680
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: look hey, bread o Joe. Let me tell you something.

681
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: I was in college, man, I'm telling you, when I

682
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: first got the campus, I wanted to play in the hype.

683
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: That's where everybody used to play it.

684
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: And I had dudes on my team bro average two

685
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: point three points a game. Who in the hype looking

686
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: like Jordan? You're so once that pop going on, the

687
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: popping and them lights come on.

688
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, what happened?

689
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he ain't the same no more, it ain't the

690
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: same with them lights come on.

691
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: That pop said the right thing. It's DNA base. It

692
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 4: is for some people and it's showing for some other people.

693
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 4: The damn big lights come on, and they damn put

694
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: a little bit more brother on the damn pop corn something.

695
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 5: These people are gonna fold like a damn chip that.

696
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: It's funny that y'all say that, because my Frenchman, we

697
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: had a guy there was roommates and one of the

698
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: guys who was the started wide receiver.

699
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: His roommate go tell the coach.

700
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: He's like, Coach, if you gave me some run, I

701
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: can catch just as good as my roommate. I can

702
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: catch just as good as this guy. Sure enough, Coach

703
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: put him in the game. Drop everything.

704
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: He threw it.

705
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: Coach after the game, he say, son, you came to

706
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: my office and tell me you better than Barney. We

707
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: put you in the game, he put him on blast.

708
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: Your roommate, I'm better than him. You have told the

709
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: coach I'm better than my roommate. He put you in

710
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: the game. You lay an egg, and then the coach

711
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: called you out. For everybody in your room and sitting

712
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: there looking at you.

713
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: Out you go, all that talking, all damn noise. Oh

714
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 4: till you've seen enough of that, all the damn guys,

715
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: back you up. Just to tell guys in practice sometime,

716
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 4: what the hell you founding me like that?

717
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 5: You can get.

718
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I don't I don't think. I don't think

719
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 4: people understand how difficult it is. It's one thing to

720
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: be playing in the park. It's one thing to be

721
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 4: having fun recreational with your friends. But I'm talking about

722
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 4: at the highest level. Bring going on. I'll talk about

723
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 4: at the highest level when them lives turn on. Especially

724
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 4: if you're a talker. He was a talker, Joe. If

725
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 4: you're a talker and you've got to back it up,

726
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 4: oh you got it back. I don't think you understand

727
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 4: how much pressure that is.

728
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 6: And obviously when you see the finished product on a Sunday,

729
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 6: you'd be like, well damn, they make it look easy.

730
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 6: But what you don't get to see is all a work.

731
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 6: Be motherfucker got to put in befull time? Are you

732
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 6: co cuted on Sunday?

733
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 5: It just yok? Easy but easy?

734
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: But you know, but but out out of the four

735
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 4: of us right now on air, three of us, I know,

736
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 4: talk a lot of ship.

737
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 5: I know Shannon did. Oh John, I know you did,

738
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 5: and I know I did. But Joe just saying nothing Joe.

739
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 5: But George just played the game and gave you is

740
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 5: that don't do. But I got to let you know

741
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 5: I'm killing you. Yeah yeah yeah.

742
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: Let your work speak for himself. No, I was let

743
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: my work. I will speaking work can't talk. But I

744
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: tell you yours that yeah.

745
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: Hey, hey they were Hey, they work to say volumes

746
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: now not a lot of oh.

747
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well get terrible.

748
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 5: You you gonna be in the waiver while I got

749
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 5: one for you, Shannon.

750
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 2: This is my best story.

751
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 4: I was playing against the Lakers and we had some

752
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: some of them guys over there, Larry Spriggs and some

753
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 4: of these guys really hadn't played that much and they

754
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 4: were screaming, yelling at me, and I will take the

755
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 4: ball out. So I was about to get the ball

756
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: from the referee and I said, hold up a minute.

757
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 4: He said hold up, He said, what what what do

758
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: you want? I said, pat Rowley would stand beside me.

759
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: I said, Pat put one of the motherfuckers in down there.

760
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: Pat Rowley turns read and gone, hey, you're going the game.

761
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 4: This guy comes in the game to guard me. I

762
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 4: scored about ten quick points going out the game. I said,

763
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 4: next time, you'll sit your ass down.

764
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 5: And be quiet.

765
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: I love pat Rowley for that. I loved it.

766
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 5: I appreciate it. All the damn talking, doing the running

767
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 5: your damn mouth, what we get it? You ain't?

768
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: You ain't.

769
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 4: You should get bit quiet and watch the damn Gameta

770
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 4: free each other up. We had three stars go down

771
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 4: in the postseason with torn a Keileys. Dame Lilly went

772
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 4: down first, Jason Tatum went down next, and then Tyre's Halliburton.

773
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 2: They all wear the number zero.

774
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

775
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: Jeff Starts tweeted if Halliburton didn't Achilles, which he did,

776
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 3: that would be the eighth A. Kilees tear this season.

777
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: The previous high was five in fourteen fifteen. That does

778
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: not include the nazis ent of the Koumbo who tore

779
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: his in the offseason, or prospect Jalen Moore who injured

780
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: here in the recent predraft workout unbelievable. So hold on,

781
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 3: that's who Tom Abstrow, James Wiseman and Isaiah Jackson too

782
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: of theirs too right?

783
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: So what is.

784
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: Joe brad you guys played? I heard people saying, man,

785
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: it's the low top shoes. But boy, with the way

786
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: technology is now, ain't nobody who was Jerry nor chellys

787
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: with them?

788
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: Chuck Taylors. Now they got all this technology. What's going on?

789
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: What the achilles go?

790
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 5: I think it's this, Joe. I believe the fact that

791
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 5: these guys never rest.

792
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 4: The guys you name Tatum played in the Olympics last year,

793
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 4: never had an opportunity to rest. Hallack Bergen played in

794
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 4: the Olympics, had an opportunity to rest.

795
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 5: We know, we know what Dame does.

796
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 4: He plays all this basketball because you don't rest your body.

797
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 4: Shannon old Joe, Joe, your damn body is gonna rest

798
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 4: you one way or the other. And it might be

799
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 4: the Achilles, and remember that the achilles is one of

800
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: those things. How do you really protect it because you

801
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: can stretch it and do it, but you can't build

802
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 4: it up like what these strong muscles.

803
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 5: Not something that happens. Yeah, it's yeah, go ahead, O Joe,

804
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 5: go ahead. I'm I'm gonna say.

805
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: I see a lot of comments, a lot of people

806
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: talking about, oh, you know, people are wearing low top

807
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 4: shoes and and I mean, listen, having a hot top

808
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 4: shoe is not not gonna prevent that. It's not gonna

809
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 4: prevent that that that's something that's that's on the interior. Uh,

810
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 4: and listen, it just happens.

811
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 5: It just happens. Why it happened, I'm not sure.

812
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 6: Obviously we know Hallie had had an injury, and I'm

813
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 6: not sure if the conversation for that area caused that

814
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 6: the keys the rupture.

815
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 5: But it's just unfortunate that it is happening.

816
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 6: But I keep seeing the comments about ohs because the

817
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 6: look had nothing to do with low top shoes, and just.

818
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 5: I don't believe, so, absolutely not. I ain't fixing that.

819
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 5: It's not preventing that.

820
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

821
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: I don't think so neither Bridge. You could be right,

822
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: it could be the wear and tear on these guys.

823
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 3: But if y'all listen to Hallen Burton after Game five,

824
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: he said that this will probably if this was regular season,

825
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 3: this will be a two week, you know, layoff for him.

826
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: He would be out for at least two weeks. And

827
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 3: the fact that you can't get that and you can't

828
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: get that kind of rest when you have those calf injuries. Man,

829
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but this is the next

830
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: thing that comes from it. You know, when you look

831
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 3: at all the guys from excuse me, Durant, whether it

832
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: was Dame, they all had these calf injuries, and you know,

833
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: you're playing in the postseason. You want to try to

834
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: be there for your team and give them everything you got.

835
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: And honestly, it just becomes too much. It just becomes

836
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 3: too much because the game is or there's such a

837
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: high level playing in the finals. Like, bro, like, you

838
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: ain't you ain't gonna get no rest on that, like,

839
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 3: because we're gonna test it every play to our court,

840
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: every play offensively, he trying to get to the rest,

841
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: he trying to make a play.

842
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 5: You got to push off on that. So I just

843
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 5: think it was unfortunate for him.

844
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: Man.

845
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: I hated it for him too.

846
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 4: Who's gonna make that call? Though, Who's gonna make that call?

847
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 4: Pis to sit down because you know it's not gonna

848
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: be the player because.

849
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 5: You know, and it's not gonna be either, because I'm

850
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 5: trying to win.

851
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: The teammates are looking at you, you know, halfway like, yo, Man,

852
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 4: rap that ship up.

853
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 5: We got to go.

854
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 2: We gotta no.

855
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 4: I don't know how you prevent that when it gets

856
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: down to players and what they're able to do. A

857
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: lot of times you said during the regular season, Joe,

858
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 4: what would have happened? The only thing I think can

859
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: happen is you if you have an independent doctor that

860
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 4: has to look at players when they have their injury.

861
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 4: That's the only way you can send them out and

862
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 4: protect them, because you can't protect the player from from

863
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 4: himself those situations because he's gonna want to go.

864
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 5: He's gonna let me ask your question.

865
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: Let me ask your question, bred who playing for that independence?

866
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 2: Because if the team playing paying for it, he ain't independent.

867
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

868
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 5: Wow.

869
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 3: If you playing for it and they keep saying, oh

870
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: it's independent, somebody gotta pay because he ain't doing no

871
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 3: doctors don't do pro bowlo work unless there are doctors borders.

872
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 2: They got a service.

873
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 4: But did that with with the Bill Walton trade that

874
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 4: that happened with me and Bill walk I passed it.

875
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 4: I didn't really pass the test in LA when I

876
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: went that. But when when Bill Walton got to got

877
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: to Boston, Renard back blowed the little smoke. It said, Bill,

878
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: you pass his his damn need one as good as

879
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 4: as your brown house.

880
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: And they went back.

881
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 4: But they but the power of coaches gms at that

882
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: time is so different than it is so I don't

883
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 4: know how you protect them player from himself.

884
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, guys, is it a situation

885
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: because now guys are so specialized. Guys play All they

886
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: play is basketball, all they play is baseball, All they

887
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 3: play is football. So you get so all you doing

888
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: is discressing that. And then you got these tournaments, Joe,

889
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: they play basketball year round. I'm like, damn, I thought

890
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: everything was a season. I thought football had a season.

891
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: I thought basketball had a season. I thought baseball had

892
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: a season. I thought track had a season. They do

893
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: all this stuff year round, and that's why us as

894
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: Americans the basketball hoopers nowadays we're behind because all we

895
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: do is play, play, play, And the guys Overseas.

896
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: They teaching the game.

897
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 3: They teaching these dudes a game at a young age

898
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: versus just throwing them out there.

899
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: Now.

900
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 3: Man, listen, we in a whole totally different era to

901
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: where now ochod.

902
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: Hey look if I want y'all to play on me. Okay, look,

903
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: I got one hundred grand for y'all. This something.

904
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: Man, I need y'all to come play with me. That's

905
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 3: all these people care about. They ain't trying to develop.

906
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: They ain't developing these kids and teaching them really how

907
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: to play the game. So therefore, as they get to

908
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 3: the next level, whether it's college or pro, you know,

909
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: a lot of them be lost. And you don't really

910
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 3: hear about it no more because it takes time. Because

911
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: when you get to a team and you're not the man,

912
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: and you have to learn how to play, and you

913
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: have to learn how to start in a row, and

914
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: you ain't never had to do that.

915
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 5: Oh man, you lost in the sauce.

916
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 4: Oh dang, that's about as true as the gifts.

917
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 5: I hadn't thought about it.

918
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 4: But over in Europe, the skill set that they teach

919
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: script with the three points and the euro step.

920
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: And all that.

921
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 4: They have that down before they get here. Our players

922
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 4: utilize one thing. It was Duncan and your foot speed.

923
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: And you can't utilize that the whole time. You have

924
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 4: to push down the back. Brother, So I think you

925
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 4: are a thousand and six correct when it comes sick.

926
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 4: But it's AAU basketball. That's what's skilled. A lot of

927
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: that damn kid going. I ain't never seen the damn

928
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: kid in the damn sixth grade go to the damn

929
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 4: California for Little Carolina place damn basketball.

930
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 5: I didn't. I couldn't go.

931
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 4: I couldn't go across the day, up the street. It's

932
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 4: another side of town. Yeah, six your selven Hey.

933
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: When I was growing up, man, we played AU ball.

934
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: I played for the Arkansas Rockets pretty much my entire

935
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: AU season to the last year. I played with the

936
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 3: Arkansas Hawks. And these are all guys straight out of Arkansas.

937
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 5: Bro.

938
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: Now you get guys they gonna be from summer everywhere.

939
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: They probably a don't even know each other until they

940
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: get together until get ready to play, you know what

941
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: I mean.

942
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 5: So that's the that's the biggest difference.

943
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Bred When we were coming up play what

944
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: Oh you better get you gotta work in the summer.

945
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 3: You got to buy summer clothes. Hey, but see I want, Hey,

946
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: but see I wanted.

947
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: We were so poor.

948
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: I want summer clothes year round. Some of my brothers,

949
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: some of my cousins, some of my uncles. Hey, hold on,

950
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: hold on. We were working to man when I was

951
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 3: when I was young, playing a you man, we threw

952
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: so many swim parties, car washings, TIPI raffles.

953
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 5: Yeah we did.

954
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, dealers, you got the fielders, We get it, did

955
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 4: them too, Joe, hold on, old joke and Joe, I

956
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: know you guys have summer that you have a Sunday suit.

957
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 4: Don't tell me that outs and some suit that we

958
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 4: could go churching on Sunday. So we have special and

959
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 4: that would bread hand me down because we were bread

960
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 4: one thing. When they had down Easter, everybody was that

961
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 4: damn church. Oh we got an Easter suit. Yeah, you know,

962
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 4: you get too suits. You get too suit for twenty

963
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 4: nine dollars. Hey, listen, my g was Hey, my grandma

964
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 4: was the lead sitting here in the choir.

965
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: Man.

966
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time with my grandma was

967
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: in church lead three four times a week. You hear me, Yeah,

968
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 3: oh yeah, talking about long whiles Baptist man first and

969
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: look and down down there Higgins in uh In Arkansas man, listen,

970
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 3: revn Payin.

971
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: I'll never forget man. Church lasts so long, guys.

972
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, Joe, Grandma would just like that too.

973
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 6: I'll never forget over Ti Grandma went to mont Allaman

974
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 6: Baptist Church.

975
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 4: Jeed By Hack collection joke, white only listen. It's it's

976
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: only one person. It's only one person in the church.

977
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 6: Who had a better Hack collection than Brandma, and that

978
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 6: was the past the wife. Hey, I want to say

979
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 6: the white back collection.

980
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 2: Was the real deal.

981
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 4: I want to see how honest all of you are

982
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 4: when they passed the collection plate in your robe?

983
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 5: Did you get more money out than you putting in?

984
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: Remon made sure we had a couple of dollars to

985
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: put in, But I ain't gonna lie to you. Sometimes

986
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 3: I put mine in sometimes.

987
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, hey, all bread Oh Joe, Joe.

988
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: You know the Black Church was started the way they

989
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 3: passed that pair around the pad. Go on, come on through, Hey,

990
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 3: got noboddy, wey you talking about this? The waves started

991
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 3: a sports arena, knowing it started a black church because

992
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: they passed that part that pad around.

993
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 4: What man, go, let me ask you this. Then, how

994
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 4: about that marb was saut when he closed the doors.

995
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 4: They closed the damn door we walked. Yeah, come on, man,

996
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 4: it's all was funny. I'd have been to church. Well,

997
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 4: how God gonna get in here? We got him locked down.

998
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 4: I mean want we wanted to come in and we

999
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 4: don't lock it by.

1000
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: Open the door.

1001
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: Hey listen, man, I'm talking about Sunday school, eight, eight

1002
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 3: thirty in the morning.

1003
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: We ain't getting our church.

1004
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: Man.

1005
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 5: At four o'clock.

1006
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: Man, they are already hooping up there at the park

1007
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: by the time I'm riding on.

1008
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 2: I'm looking out the window. Lady, dang, I got you know.

1009
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 5: Let's let's be honest.

1010
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 4: That was the only time that the parents, if you

1011
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 4: had a lot of kids, that's only time the parents

1012
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 4: to really get busy because they see y'all the church.

1013
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 4: They heard about it. They had used to go to

1014
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 4: Sunday school, and then that was about three hours up

1015
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 4: in there. Now I'm just doing man, I'm doing that.

1016
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, that was all you know. Four Sunday,

1017
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 4: four Sunday was all day. Think four Sunday. You're not

1018
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 4: getting out of there. You're not getting out of the

1019
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 4: until like four thirty. You going at nine, you ain't

1020
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 4: getting out there til four thirty for show?

1021
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1022
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 5: And and how how hungry are you hotel coming out

1023
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 5: of the church? What?

1024
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm a a bread and listen, I'm happy. I'm

1025
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 4: hungry when we get out of church. But I know

1026
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 4: we'll be going We're going to Turkey. We're going to

1027
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 4: church and chicken right down on fifty four Street and

1028
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: sit right there on the corner the same thing. Hey, Hey,

1029
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie to you. I know, Mida three

1030
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 4: legs fries, the apple pie and a strawberry juice with

1031
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 4: a strawberry soda with no ice.

1032
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 5: My grandma she loved them. Goddamn ocals. Huh from over

1033
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 5: Oho you over?

1034
00:47:53,880 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: But he you know, absolutely no prods and all that

1035
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 2: would right out the grease, right out the grid. Joe,

1036
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:06,959
Speaker 2: what nobody gets?

1037
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 3: I mean, oh, Joe, bread man, My grandpa cooked everything

1038
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: under the sun, do you hear me?

1039
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1040
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: I know something about some gizzers. Now, yeah, I don't

1041
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 3: like no liberals, but let me know what. Jack Low

1042
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 3: wants the NBA Finals to return to the two three,

1043
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: two four. Man, No, what you think, Joe, what you think?

1044
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: Bread? No, Nah, that's a tough one man.

1045
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: Look because if you going there and win on somebody

1046
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 3: home court, just like Indiana did in game one and

1047
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: and and you got three games at home, man, a

1048
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: lot of teams ain't coming back from that.

1049
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: Uh right.

1050
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 3: They did that because they used to fly commercial, so

1051
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: they wanted to make sure that it was it was

1052
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 3: not everybody got their own private plane. So you get

1053
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 3: two games, yo, just stay there, you stay there in

1054
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 3: the city, blah blah blah, and then when you pack

1055
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: it up, you come on back.

1056
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: But now where everybody got their own flight, Bread and Joe, Nah.

1057
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 5: What was why you want that?

1058
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 4: That make no sense to me because if you are

1059
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: if you want all these games, you put yourself on

1060
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 4: the line. You put yourself in a position where you

1061
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 4: want those first two games at home and at the

1062
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 4: other places home and then that done this back and forth.

1063
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: I not feeling that.

1064
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 4: I'm not because, as you said, what during the eighties,

1065
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 4: it was hard because we had to fly commercial.

1066
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 5: We had to go from LA to Boston playing the

1067
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 5: Lakers at that time.

1068
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 4: I remember Jack Nicholson being in the first class whips

1069
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 4: and you know, we just kind of hanging out, had

1070
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 4: a good time.

1071
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 5: Them flights with difficult many.

1072
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 4: They were Joe that didn't want to give you no

1073
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 4: damn food. I mean you set up there and on

1074
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 4: top of that you have people damn smoke the cigarettes.

1075
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 5: Right besides so Shannony, you.

1076
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 3: Don't know nothing about that. You want no no, But

1077
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: I've heard that you guys that regular people were regular

1078
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: people on your flight the way.

1079
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 4: Ran yes, besides you asking you asking you yes, yeah,

1080
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 4: because we were going through the airport. We'll come to

1081
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 4: the airport with no security. Here was the security right here.

1082
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: These things you were on.

1083
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 4: Somebody out there, but those security and none of all

1084
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 4: other stuff, no being protected by the NBA, none.

1085
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: All.

1086
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 5: It was a different league did and you had to

1087
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 5: protect yourself. You had to be more of an adult.

1088
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: You had to really focus on what you did because

1089
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 4: I'm telling you what the eighties, the women in the eighties,

1090
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 4: who they were prevalent.

1091
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: Man.

1092
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. We should We had breaking

1093
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 3: news today. Kevin Durant has been traded to the Rockets.

1094
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 3: The Suns traded KD to the Rockets for Jalen Green

1095
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks, the number ten pick in the twenty twenty

1096
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 3: five draft, five second round picks. KD was at fanatics

1097
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: Fest when someone captured the moment when KD and if

1098
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 3: agent Rich Climbing found out. Let's take a look at

1099
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: this video, guys. So I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised

1100
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: by this. If there's only a handful of teams that

1101
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 3: had maybe some players and to pick the compensation, the

1102
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: Suns messed this up.

1103
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: Look. I like Matt Ishba. I met him several times.

1104
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 3: He's a great guy, but he gave up too much

1105
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 3: to get Kevin Durant and he was never gonna reciprocate

1106
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 3: that because he's two years older than when you got him.

1107
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 3: So now you're not gonna be able what you gave

1108
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: up to get him, You're not gonna be able to

1109
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: get that back. That we know you want him gone.

1110
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: He knows you want him gone, and everybody else know

1111
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: you want him gone. And so oh yo, plus Miami,

1112
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 3: they turned down Miami's package because I told you they

1113
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: didn't have enough to get better and have anything.

1114
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: TIMI Hodcares Hobvid high smell what.

1115
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 6: And I have a question though some some of you

1116
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 6: just said some some of you just said, right, we

1117
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 6: talked about Yes, Kevin Durrant, one of the prolific scores

1118
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 6: of all time.

1119
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 5: You said Isa did too much to get it.

1120
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 6: But yes, but because the player he is, that's why

1121
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 6: he did what he had to do to actually get

1122
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 6: a player that magnitude. Now, the reason you got him

1123
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 6: was you hope what you put an invested into him,

1124
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 6: you hope it turned out and came to fruition.

1125
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 5: It just didn't.

1126
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 6: And normally when you buy a car, where you buy

1127
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 6: a car, off the car out right and as soon

1128
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 6: as you drive it off, what does it do you appreciate? Well,

1129
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 6: so you understand when you get a player of that

1130
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 6: magnitude as great as he is, and great as he is,

1131
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 6: and he's older.

1132
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 3: Now you're still not gonna get back what you bought

1133
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 3: for him with yours. Is that when you look at

1134
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 3: what you look, you got KD and book. Did you

1135
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: really need Bradley Bial? Did you really need Brandley Bill?

1136
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 3: Or do I need to secure my do I need

1137
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 3: to get death for my betch? So now I tell

1138
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: you trade more draft capital and give up more players.

1139
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: So now they don't have a first round picking til

1140
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 3: twenty thirty one. You do realize it's twenty twenty five, right,

1141
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 3: And that's why I.

1142
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 4: Think it's a good trade for Phoenix stuff. If you're

1143
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 4: talking about Phoenix is gonna be able to do some

1144
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 4: of these things and possibly get a pick and all this.

1145
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 4: I ge't Kevin Durant to me goals there. I think

1146
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 4: instantly to me, he makes them more fire more when

1147
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 4: I think about having a score with them youngm young bulls.

1148
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 5: He got the monk there, I don't. Yeah, I make

1149
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 5: that trade off back.

1150
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 3: I love how I like him better and I like

1151
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 3: him better than Houston that I did. And then then

1152
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: in Phoenix you agree because you got you got Shing Gooon,

1153
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: you got Armin Thompson, you re signed Van Fleet, you

1154
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 3: you were able to keep Jabari Smith junior. So now

1155
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: and plus the problem that Houston had they had the

1156
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 3: second best record in the in the West, fifty two wins,

1157
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: but they didn't have a guy that you can give

1158
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 3: the ball to Layton the ball game and go get

1159
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 3: you a bucket.

1160
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: You now have that? How long? How long?

1161
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 5: How long do Joe? I know you joke?

1162
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 4: I'd love to be about thirty six thirty seven thirty seven,

1163
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 4: telling them you're gonna let and I love k D,

1164
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 4: but you're you're putting them in a position.

1165
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 5: Where you're going to have him carry your team late

1166
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 5: to go get buckets.

1167
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 3: I think I think he's gonna be I think he's

1168
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 3: naturally gonna do that laden games. I love the fact

1169
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 3: that he's with a bunch of young cats, like some

1170
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 3: grinding young cats who are gonna work hard, play hard,

1171
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: and he ain't.

1172
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: Gonna have to. I don't think he's gonna have to

1173
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: do a lot of heavy lifting. Guys. They got some

1174
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: guys who can play over there, you know what I mean.

1175
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: They got some guys gonna come into their own obviously,

1176
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 3: they gonna play through Shing Gong And like you said,

1177
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: I'm glad they capt J Barry Smith, another tall, long,

1178
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 3: long guy who can shoot the ball, who can post up,

1179
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 3: who can play multiple positions, and uh led by Van Fleet.

1180
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: I think they have a great team over that. I

1181
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 2: think KD can put him over the hump.

1182
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be rigorous on him, as

1183
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 3: far as you know him trying to carry that team.

1184
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 3: I think collectively they're gonna do a great job now

1185
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: naturally he's gonna be the claim of the crop when

1186
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 3: he comes to score on the basketball because he does

1187
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: it so well and it comes so easy to him. Yeah,

1188
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: I mean, and plus, you got three guys six to

1189
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 3: ten or better. You got six eleven, you got six

1190
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 3: eleven KD you got six eleven. Shin Good, you got

1191
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 3: six ten Jabari Parker, you got In Thompson at six seven.

1192
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 3: You got Van Fleet that can run the I like this,

1193
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 3: I like I like, like I said, I like KD

1194
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 3: here more than I liked him in Phoenix because all

1195
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 3: you had was offense. They didn't have rebounding, they didn't

1196
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 3: have rent protecting, they didn't they didn't have great depth.

1197
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: Because think about what you gave up to get it.

1198
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 3: You gave up your best defender in Michael Bridges, you

1199
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 3: gave up a young Cam Johnson. You gave up what

1200
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 3: three first round draft picks. That's an awful lot to

1201
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 3: give up for a guy. And now and now you

1202
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 3: go trade for Bradley Beal, which weekends ue even more

1203
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 3: as far as draft compensation and depth.

1204
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 2: For you, bitch, these teams that played in the NBA Finals,

1205
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 2: what do they have depth? Depth?

1206
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 3: Now they might not be as good as the Big

1207
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 3: three for Phoenix. But Phoenix had once you got, once

1208
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: you got booked, and Katie out of the game. Not

1209
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 3: what Hey, look, my question is what is fings gonna

1210
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 3: look like with Devin Booker, Jalen Green and Bradley Bill.

1211
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 3: I mean, them three are pretty much of the same guy,

1212
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I said that when they

1213
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 3: got I said that when they got.

1214
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 5: Joe, one of the things could happen.

1215
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 4: And I've been hearing this that there might be a

1216
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 4: possibility of Boston making moves.

1217
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 5: What's gonna happen? Or you're gonna keep for zenas here?

1218
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 5: You have a big hole over there in Phoenix right now?

1219
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 4: Can you go out and get one of those guys

1220
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 4: for Boston and make and get that pick or want

1221
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 4: to give that pick up for maybe tor Zingis to

1222
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 4: put him in that position. You know, Joe that once

1223
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 4: you get trade it to a T doesn't necessarily mean

1224
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 4: you need to stop chack. You know, your bags don't

1225
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 4: need to be unpacked. You need to keep it right

1226
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 4: back because you might get moved on in the new NBA.

1227
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 3: Right Yeah, Rockets fans don't seem to be happy with

1228
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 3: the KD trade One tweeted it happened today was my

1229
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 3: last day as a Rocket fan. I wish the worst

1230
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 3: and the absolute worst of this franchise. Trading a twenty

1231
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: three year old superstar for a washed forty yo old

1232
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: and genuinely the worst thing you could ever do. I

1233
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 3: hope KDE retires next season and that the franchise completely crumbles.

1234
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: Hey KD.

1235
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: KD also spoke the k Adams today and said Phoenix

1236
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 3: wanted him gone. Let's take a listen to what Katie

1237
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 3: had to say last one for you. A lot of

1238
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 3: heartbroken Suns fans right now, what would you like to

1239
00:57:58,880 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: say that's not true?

1240
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 5: No, literally heartbroken Suns sound right over there.

1241
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 8: I just I just felt like, yeah, that means they

1242
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 8: wanted me to go. So it's like, I'm glad we

1243
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 8: both you know, they got what they wanted, what I wanted,

1244
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 8: so we can move on and good luck to them

1245
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 8: going forward. And I always remember my time there, but

1246
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 8: we're on something else.

1247
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: Hey, Yeah, I don't see nothing wrong with what he said,

1248
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 3: because it wasn't him who came to them asking and

1249
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 3: looking for a trade. He found out they were trying

1250
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 3: to trade him. So as as as athletes, we know

1251
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 3: when you it's basically saying you don't want us. Okay,

1252
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 3: it's somebody out there who will take me. It's somebody

1253
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 3: outide who do want me. And uh he was able

1254
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: to give him on a few teams that he wanted

1255
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: to go play with. So give a son's credit for

1256
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 3: even trading him to uh Houston, Texas, to Texas because

1257
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 3: that was one of the stops that he wanted to go. Well,

1258
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 3: he knew the Suns, excuse me, the Rockets, the Spurs

1259
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 3: and uh no, yeah, the Rockets, the Spurs Brooklyn were

1260
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: really the only the handful of team that had the

1261
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 3: draft capitol to go get it.

1262
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: So he had no choice. I mean he he couldn't

1263
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: go to Miami.

1264
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 3: Come Miami, don't have anything to offer for your two

1265
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: best players are untouchable, Tyler, he wrote, and bam, and

1266
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 3: you see the package Hobby hawkir junior Hobbitch hot spells.

1267
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: It's like absolutely not absolutely dude.

1268
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 4: Dude, what did we think that because they had to

1269
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: make that move, how how bad they were offensively indeed,

1270
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 4: and the only person other than the book that you're

1271
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 4: gonna get anything more when that team was King d

1272
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 4: So in his case, they had to make that move.

1273
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 5: They had to go out and say, dude, you you

1274
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 5: can go on. And here's the thing that me and

1275
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 5: Joe love about this shore. Where'd they go? Oh, I know,

1276
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 5: to a damn state that they ain't got, no damn state,

1277
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 5: income town. How about that? How about that?

1278
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: There was a back and forth Bugie Cousins a few

1279
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 3: days ago regarding the report the sons had multiple fist

1280
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: fights in the locker room. Kevin rad says, I have

1281
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: to contest this ninety four footer. Uh, there's some bull

1282
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 3: drive to.

1283
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: Throw on us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were trashed this year,

1284
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: ha haha. But we never got close to this. Never.

1285
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: The Phoenix Sun reportedly had multiple fist fights in the

1286
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 3: locker room her Boogie Cousins. Uh. The bookie says the

1287
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: source was one of your teammates killers. I ain't referencing

1288
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 3: you refer to you say that is for the other homies.

1289
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 5: Damn.

1290
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 4: Hey, anytime a unc Joe Bread, anytime something like that

1291
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 4: get out, you know it always it always comes from

1292
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 4: from one of the players, it from Yeah, it comes

1293
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 4: from the locker room always. That's the only that's the

1294
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 4: only time I hate my stuff. I hate stuff like

1295
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 4: that happened too.

1296
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 2: Man.

1297
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 4: You know, I hate when dude. I hope when dudes

1298
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 4: beat chatty patty. When some goes on the locker room,

1299
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 4: it's supposed to stay right there's supposed to stay right

1300
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 4: there in CAD's gotta be pillow talking and okay, fist fight, man,

1301
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 4: everybody fight, who don't fight? It happens in training camp.

1302
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 4: Did y'all fight in training camp?

1303
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: Yep?

1304
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 3: You know, I mean it happens all the time. Whatever

1305
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 3: happened in the locker room, And if you didn't care,

1306
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 3: if they didn't capture.

1307
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 5: No, it doesn't, it doesn't.

1308
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: It doesn't know what I'm saying.

1309
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1310
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 4: But here's what happened. Does you say it right now?

1311
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 4: It's pitdle talk. You go tell your wife something, You

1312
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 4: go tell your girlfriend. You know how those stories go.

1313
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 4: You tell her, she tells somebody else, and then this

1314
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 4: all is going in the woods.

1315
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 3: So a lot of times what we have in the

1316
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 3: n b A our wives and girlfriends.

1317
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 4: And now it's moms who have a lot of ship

1318
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 4: going over.

1319
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 5: Because they have they have a lot of power.

1320
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 4: Now, Joe, it's not like back in the day, back

1321
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 4: in the day, girlfriends were quiet. They said nothing about

1322
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 4: the little damn basket. They talked about everything else, but

1323
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 4: not about basketball. Now the gleamed the damn game. I'm like, really,

1324
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 4: you donna play it?

1325
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 5: I can see you on the other side sitting I didn't.

1326
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,919
Speaker 3: Reports say the Sons will look to reroute Jalen Green

1327
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 3: to another team.

1328
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 4: I can see that that makes sense. But hey, hold on,

1329
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 4: I need a draft. Huh hold on, I'm tripping. Now

1330
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 4: you trade KD for Jalen Green? Now you want to

1331
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 4: shoot Jayen Green somewhere else? And then I see reports

1332
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 4: day also about a buyer with Bradley Beal.

1333
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 2: What the hell going on?

1334
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 3: Cause, oh, Joe Bradley See Bradley Bill and Lebron are

1335
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 3: one of the two players, two players that have no trade.

1336
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 3: So you can't move Bradley Bill where he doesn't want

1337
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 3: to go. So the best thing is, like, you know what,

1338
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 3: let's just go ahead and bite this bullet, get up

1339
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 3: off this and move in a different direction.

1340
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 4: So how would Bradley Bill look down here, mammy? Since

1341
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 4: he is a prolific scorer. He is a scorer, He's

1342
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 4: gonna get eighty ninety percent of his money. He can

1343
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 4: look good wherever he would choose to go.

1344
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 5: Hey, that means me, let me, let me taket Bradley,

1345
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 5: real quick man.

1346
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 2: They're trying to get people in Miami.

1347
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 4: Hey, well listen, we can use a score like that. Now,

1348
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 4: look at what he did on the Wizards, and look

1349
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 4: what happened. It's too many people touching the goddamn bo it.

1350
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 3: Don't it, don't it, don't take it. Don't take nothing

1351
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 3: to be a good score on a bad team. You

1352
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 3: talk about you talking about the heat. No, they don't

1353
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 3: take anything bread, you know, a bad team, It don't

1354
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 3: take much to be a top not scored because who

1355
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 3: cares you getting yards beat out anyway?

1356
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 2: So don't nobody care.

1357
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 4: That that that's that's the one where they'll say. I

1358
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 4: said that one time to coach Patino. One time I

1359
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 4: was talking about Paul and I was talking about Antoine,

1360
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,439
Speaker 4: and that's when they were beating the out loud themselves

1361
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 4: and I was I was one of the reports. I said,

1362
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 4: so Paul and Antoine, you know, they got their numbers

1363
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 4: to night, coach, and he turned to me. I was

1364
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 4: just embarrassed I've ever been, he said, turn me. He said,

1365
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 4: numbers are to loose. I don't give a ship about

1366
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 4: them scoring no basket. So so you're right in the NBA,

1367
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 4: on a bad team, you can look really good scoring

1368
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 4: the basketball because you're the only thing they have.

1369
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 5: But when you plung that into a good team do

1370
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 5: you can get wins because of that? And you can

1371
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 5: see what having a Bradley Bill. He leaves.

1372
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 4: Washington and goes to everybody said, oh that he there,

1373
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 4: that's the b end of ben because score.

1374
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 5: He goes now to Phoenix. He ain't shooting that way

1375
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 5: no more. He ain't getting them.

1376
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 4: He ain't getting what you say, Joe Beck and then

1377
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 4: he getting touched like that, you're gonna get it.

1378
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 2: You don't get to take all them bad shots.

1379
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 3: You don't get to come down there and say, you

1380
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 3: know what, I'm gonna get me twenty five thirty shots

1381
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 3: to night no matter what. On a good team with

1382
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 3: other good players, it's not like that, especially when you

1383
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 3: have multiple good players on said teams. Now, maybe if

1384
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 3: he goes if it could be a situation like okay,

1385
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 3: see Ja Doubs and Shade gonna get the lion's share

1386
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 3: of the shots. Like tonight, Shae was eight of twenty

1387
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 3: seven J doubles seven or twenty. Now they got forty

1388
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 3: seven of the eighty seven shots. Two guys took over

1389
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 3: half the shots. Yeah, okay, but now you put Bradley Beal,

1390
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: you put it with KD and Book, ain't enough bad

1391
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 3: shots to go around.

1392
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna be looking at you crazy.

1393
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 3: You come down taking bad shots, some of the bad

1394
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 3: shots that you were able to take and get away with.

1395
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: When you were with the Wizards.

1396
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 3: I agree, when you're playing with other great players, man,

1397
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 3: you have to try to find a way to be efficient.

1398
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 3: I take your guys back to two thousand and five,

1399
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 3: two thousand and four, when I was.

1400
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 2: Playing with the Phoene s soun Nash was the MVP.

1401
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: You had a.

1402
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 3: Mary Stott Myer was a Premier All Star. Shunned Mary.

1403
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 3: It was a Premier All Star. And as your fourth option,

1404
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 3: which was me, I wanted to be efficient.

1405
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: I shot.

1406
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 3: I shot four to eight percent from the three, and

1407
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 3: every time I took a shot, I wanted to I

1408
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 3: wanted to make it count because I know I was

1409
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 3: gonna get many of them, you know what I mean.

1410
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 3: I wanted to be ye possible.

1411
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 5: I did.

1412
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 3: I knew listen, I knew the ones that I did get, Brad,

1413
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 3: I had to be inefficient, you hear me, So I

1414
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 3: did what I had to do that. Yeah, and I

1415
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 3: only got a chance to play on that with them.

1416
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 3: Guys were Nash for one year and I thought we

1417
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: had a special, special team, but unfortunately we got some

1418
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 3: new ownership that came in and you know, thought otherwise.

1419
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 5: But Joe that that made it possible for.

1420
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 4: You to go to another team though, because you ad

1421
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 4: because you highlight what you were able to do on

1422
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 4: that particular team with not a lot of shots.

1423
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 5: And I think that's why you were able to go

1424
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 5: someplace else. And about sudden, you know, you.

1425
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 3: Get that I sold Joe thing. But look, it goes

1426
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 3: back to what Unk said and I got when I

1427
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: got to Atlanta. My first couple of years, I'm averaging

1428
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, twenty six a game.

1429
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: But here if the character we can the noose believe,

1430
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: beat up out Joe.

1431
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 5: And when you when you were in Phoenix started out

1432
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 5: with the five.

1433
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, he was uh way before his time. Oh, Joe,

1434
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 3: the boy was so raw when he came came in

1435
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 3: straight out of high school. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he

1436
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 3: came in man, I'm talking about just running through casts.

1437
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 2: He was going through you. It wasn't going around you,

1438
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 2: he was going through you.

1439
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 3: I'm talking about I've seen him go ahead ahead with

1440
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 3: Tim Duncan, Kevin, Chris Webber. I'm talking about the elites. Yeah,

1441
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 3: that was special man, He's special. Oh no, then we

1442
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 3: that's your problem. That's Lake Wales. That's all you all

1443
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 3: about is Lake Wales, Lake Welles Yeah, Florida, Lake Wales, Florida,

1444
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 3: and Lake welles Ford, Florida.

1445
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 5: Now that must be you mean Lakeland, Lakeland or Lake Wales, which.

1446
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 2: I think because he always hollered bout him. ROYD Jones,

1447
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: all this all.

1448
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 5: This, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, that's right

1449
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 5: up the road. That's right up the road. How all

1450
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 5: these dem athletes come out of there Florida. Oh it's

1451
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 5: the water, baby, It ain't nothing but the water.

1452
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 4: You know.

1453
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 5: Listen. We we produce some different down here, We produce

1454
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 5: some different down here.

1455
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 3: Weather, the weather. Look look at what the Look at

1456
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 3: the best athletes they come out of what warm weather? California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana. Look,

1457
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 3: I mean, because you got you got like ideal you

1458
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 3: got ideal climate.

1459
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 2: And you know us, we like warm weather. We don't

1460
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: like the code.

1461
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 5: We like.

1462
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 2: We like warm weather. And for the most part, you

1463
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,839
Speaker 2: can do a lot of things a lot a lot longer.

1464
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 3: So you know, you get warm weather a lot longer,

1465
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 3: and you don't get those you know, those those long

1466
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 3: winners in short summers. You get long summers.

1467
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1468
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, But if you go back, look at that, look

1469
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 3: at the foot look at basketball. Let's just take basketball.

1470
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 3: Uh especially football ain't even close. All the football players

1471
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 3: from the outside California, Texas, Losinganda, Georgia, Florida, South Kentery,

1472
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But I think that's what it has

1473
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 3: to do. It has to do with if you go

1474
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 3: back and look at it, look at where most of

1475
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 3: the athletes come from.

1476
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 5: Damn ils from North Carolina. I'm sorry, come on, you.

1477
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 2: Get a little basketball, y'all got a few.

1478
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 4: And guarantee you North Carolina might have the rate this

1479
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 4: basketball a lot of basketball players ever put together.

1480
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: I said, more than Chicago.

1481
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, I'm taking Jordan Jordan morrisey, thro.

1482
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 2: Wh wh what you it used to be New York.

1483
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,799
Speaker 2: You don't used to us with the hot.

1484
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 4: Dominique, Dominique Fro, Don't Carolina Buck Williams, Dominique, James, they Flo.

1485
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 5: There's a there's a ton of guys you don't even

1486
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 5: talking about. Bob McIndoe, one of the greatest of all time.

1487
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,440
Speaker 5: He from Greensboro.

1488
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 4: I mean, there were so many great players, like hey,

1489
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 4: David Thompson that people won't even talk about it anymore.

1490
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 5: He was before George. He was damnit. I tell you what.

1491
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 4: I was guarding god Walk and I was swiveling and

1492
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 4: I was going back and forth, and somebody said love

1493
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 4: and I'm I'm guarding it pretty good.

1494
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 5: And then I turn around. I look, I tell you what.

1495
01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 5: I can tell you what size shoe?

1496
01:09:59,479 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 4: Hee wo?

1497
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 5: Because I was father.

1498
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 2: Jenny you once I was thirteen. That's all I saw

1499
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 2: you get up

1500
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: The volume