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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, it's you live on a Thursday edition of

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Speaker 2: the program. I am merely bo Gebe is here, Hi,

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Speaker 2: the g man is here, Doctor j is here. Z

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Speaker 2: is northbound and down we assume, I assume it all

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Speaker 2: went well down there. We'll see. So that's where we

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Speaker 3: It is Thig. They had to play again today. It

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Speaker 3: was like the day three of their Ryder Cup. I

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Speaker 3: think they I think there was eighteen this morning and

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Speaker 3: then to drive home.

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Speaker 2: That's a long day. I can't wait for him to

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Speaker 2: do the show.

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Speaker 3: Laying on the floor in the studio tomorrow because his

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Speaker 3: back's out.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, because I do think. I do think

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Speaker 2: any injury that incurs well on vacation, no sympathy none. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I think that's part of it. You understand

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Speaker 2: that it's just part of it now.

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Speaker 3: Going into it, I did feel bad and I was

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Speaker 3: like I don't think the car ride right into golf

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Speaker 3: is going to be good. You probably should have just

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Speaker 3: gone down Monday, slept into bed, got up in the

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Speaker 3: out and then go play.

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Speaker 2: Then go play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I believe the kid screwed that up.

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Speaker 2: He did. Yeah, we are. We are one week away.

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Speaker 2: We are one week away the NFL Draft. Day one

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Speaker 2: of the NFL Draft will be a week from to day.

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Speaker 2: It'll happen in Green Bay, Wisconsin. And it's go time

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Speaker 2: this I know we have a big portion of Andrew

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Speaker 2: Berry's availability. We're going to play for you as the

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Speaker 2: program goes along, Dan brug We're going to join us

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Speaker 2: at two o'clock. See if that's look forward to. Which

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Speaker 2: is nice? Get his kind of final thoughts. The Beast

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Speaker 2: is here is an incredible binder the g man put together.

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Speaker 3: Of the Beast.

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Speaker 2: It's I've never seen anything quite like this. Is a

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Speaker 2: great job out of the g man here to put

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Speaker 2: this thing together.

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Speaker 3: We have a rule in the building. Yeah, in this

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Speaker 3: in this little cubby that we work out of or like,

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Speaker 3: no printing till after five o'clock when people aren't around it.

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Speaker 3: We can literally print out an entire.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's unbelievable. It's categorized quarterbacks, running backs, receive.

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Speaker 2: You know you got the page number here. Everything's laminated.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's an incredible job, really incredible job out

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Speaker 2: of the g Man and of course on Dane on

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Speaker 2: the Beast. But yeah, you're a week away and we're

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Speaker 2: going to play Andrew here in about twenty five minutes

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Speaker 2: or so. It's been a really cool Wyatt run up

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Speaker 2: to this. And you know, one of the things that

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Speaker 2: is a consensus that forms in Indianapolis, that is it's consensus,

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Speaker 2: and then it becomes printed, write it and sharpie like,

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Speaker 2: this is what's going to happen. And there's countless stories

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Speaker 2: of this, whether it's Herbert to the Chargers or Kyler

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Speaker 2: I Loa to Miami. There's one hundred of these stories

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Speaker 2: that come out of the draft and they feel like

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Speaker 2: they're rubber stamped and they're fact and a way you go.

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Speaker 2: And when we left the Combine this year, it was

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Speaker 2: Tennessee is not taking a quarterback at one, and the

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Speaker 2: a week out. Tennessee is taking cam Ward. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the league. Are there two running backs?

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Speaker 2: So he's going one, which nobody thought coming out of

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Speaker 2: The majority of the questions are about Travis Hunter, because

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Speaker 2: the consensus in NFL media is that we're taking Travis

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Speaker 2: of the reporting that's happened in the lead up to this,

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard anybody say. And I'm talking about people

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen that once. We've seen it with other organizations,

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Speaker 2: So when people say I think they're gonna do this,

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Speaker 2: or it's guesswork. That's it. It's eliminating other options, process

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Speaker 2: And it's looking for parsing through a bunch of comments

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Speaker 2: to one belief or another. But the reality is Andrew

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Speaker 2: is an expert at talking and answering questions without giving

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Speaker 2: you anything in terms of where the organization's added, which

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Speaker 2: him leading you in any way direction. If you're in

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Speaker 2: to do. But to that end, I just think it's

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Speaker 2: been a very quiet from our vantage. We're picking number

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Speaker 2: I think some of it is it feels like there's

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Speaker 2: Then you're going to have a healthy debate every day

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Speaker 2: about Drake may or Jayden Daniels. But we never had that. Now,

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Speaker 2: shudor if Cam's gone, and if not, then you go

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Speaker 2: with Travis or Abdul and that's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the lack of top level candidates to

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Speaker 3: But I think it goes further back. Think about free agency.

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Speaker 3: completely nuts, yep, and then it was done. Like last year,

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Speaker 3: signing impact free agents. Yeah, there was still a lot

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Speaker 3: started on Monday at noon and by Friday at like

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Speaker 3: going through positional work, Let's see him in a Browns uniform.

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Speaker 3: I just my big question is what comes next? Like

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Speaker 3: the offseason has been so quiet, What am I gonna

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, I think I think what you're going

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Speaker 2: pieces into a Dude, we need players. We need a

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Speaker 2: bunch of players. We need a bunch of offensive players. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I mean a ton of them. You need multiple receivers,

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Speaker 2: you need a back. You need some depth on the

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Speaker 2: have you have Mounts quarterback. We're gonna draft quarterback.

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Speaker 3: There's arguably seven spots on the offense that you that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of them if this isn't depth pieces

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Speaker 2: like you need dudes. Yeah, two and thirty three need

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Speaker 2: depending on where it is. So it's a massive draft

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Speaker 2: for us. It's it's one where you got to get

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Speaker 2: one that's necessary because you just have been not having

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Speaker 3: It, yeah, I mean that's it's definitely you can. You

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Speaker 3: can feel the excitement starting to build around here. I

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Speaker 3: know that it's a big week done at Huntington Bank

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Speaker 3: Field with the Crew game on Saturday against MIAMIFC, but

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Speaker 3: then Draft night concert with Journey. I mean that. I

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Speaker 3: mean it could be for people at that.

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Speaker 2: I mean that would be a scene, wouldn't it. What's

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Speaker 2: our weather look like Saturday?

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Speaker 3: Not great? Yeah? Knock?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's a chance the rain could be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as it's not lightning. Correct, Not that

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Speaker 2: not terribly cold. Yeah, it's really like two days out,

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Speaker 2: I used to always give the meteorologists bad time and say,

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Speaker 2: He's since passed, but great guy him, Chris Bradley, and

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Speaker 2: he would always do this thing. They like ten day forecasts,

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Speaker 2: and like, come on, what are you doing ten days?

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about? How about we just try

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Speaker 2: Or the next you put your kid's education fund? How

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Speaker 3: Three? I think three, big two.

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Speaker 2: I feel pretty good. At one point, I finally got

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Speaker 2: to be honest, I feel pretty good about forty eight hours.

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Speaker 2: About forty eight hours out, what are you doing at

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Speaker 2: the ten day? Then looking at a ten day forecast.

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Speaker 3: Who knows, Yeah, exactly, I know the forecast. We were

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Speaker 3: looking it up earlier. Green Bay is going to be

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Speaker 3: in the upper fifties. Yeah, it's gonna go on to

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Speaker 3: forty one at night Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: How does that city host it? You've been there? I don't.

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Speaker 2: I haven't. I don't understand.

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Speaker 3: It's a great question. I mean, I think they're more

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Speaker 2: But I'm curious. It's a small town, right, So what

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Speaker 2: is the Ohio equivalent of Green Bay, Wisconsin? I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they don't have the packers, Like,

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Speaker 3: What's you know, what's the pop green Bay?

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Speaker 2: One hundred and five. Yeah, let's let's cross reference Ohio

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Speaker 3: It's tough because there's not There are some hotels near

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a cool little I mean, the downtown area

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sure you are to do with those houses by

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Speaker 5: Brands has transitioned into the tons of trio to bringing

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Speaker 3: Yeah that area. Yeah, it just it depends which way

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So oh, I just see this the uh this from Schefter.

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Speaker 2: We've announced that Joe Thomas, Well we haven't, but the

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's doing some other stuff, I feel like on

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Speaker 2: So it's like he's one of one of four Hall

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Speaker 2: of famers who will be making Jerry Kramer, Wow, legendary

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Speaker 2: Jerry Kramer. Holy smokes, he's got to be getting up there.

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Speaker 2: Jerry Kramer, Dave Robinson, Lynn Swan, the Hoff. Those are

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Speaker 3: So eighty nine for Jerry Kramer.

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Speaker 2: Eighty nine, yeah, had I mean had to be. That's

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Speaker 2: it's Lombardi, it's all AT's that's where it's at. So

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Speaker 2: a couple of interesting notes just from NFL research every club.

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Speaker 2: thirty two teams possessed their first round pick at the

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Speaker 2: traded up into the top fifteen, and twenty four straight drafts,

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Speaker 2: there's been an average of one point five trade ups

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Speaker 2: into within the top ten since twenty eleven. Why haven't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 2: I think if there were four or five quarterbacks that

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Speaker 2: I think you'd see trades. But because it's Cam and

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Speaker 2: he had six first round quarterbacks. When you have six

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Speaker 2: think especially if Shdur. If we don't pick Shutur at

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Speaker 3: I think the QB class not being considered first round talents.

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Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of people are saying not

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Speaker 3: a lot of deep deep wide receiver classes we've had

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Speaker 2: I mean travs an athlete. I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: So I think you see a lot of movement starting

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Speaker 2: Do you think even if Shooters already picked, or only

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Speaker 3: I think, just in general, I think especially if some

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Speaker 2: I just was curious because to kind of buttress our point,

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Speaker 2: I want to look at Dane's top one hundred, so

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Speaker 2: through thirty two picks, this is you know, what you

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Speaker 2: would consider glamor. So he has genty third overall. So

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Speaker 2: Trav is his QB, he has him his cornerback one,

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Speaker 2: Hunter Ashton genty let's just do glamour positions. Do we

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Speaker 3: No, okay, I would say offensive.

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Speaker 2: Skill, offensive skill, okay, because yeah, that gets what gets

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Speaker 2: Amari and Hampton eight. That's it. That's it.

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Speaker 3: Like even if you add tight ends there might be two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean or is that not even He's

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Speaker 2: got Tyler Warren at eight and Colston Lovelin at ten

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Speaker 2: Friday night might be Friday night might be the night,

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Speaker 3: Going to see a ton of movement based on how

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other thing you're going to see on

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Speaker 2: If you're a fan of college football, you love the draft,

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Speaker 2: Friday night's going to feel like a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a win. Speaking of college football, Lee Course, of the

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Speaker 2: August thirtieth. This isn't official yet, but it's going to

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Speaker 3: He will all makes sense then because I'm like, it's

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Speaker 2: to do it, and he came up with the idea,

435
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Speaker 2: and that's how it all came about. Have you ever

436
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: seen it live? Him put it on ol trying to

437
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 2: explain to someone who did not watch does not watch

438
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: college football, or is let's say it's somebody from Australia,

439
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 2: although Australian folks, certainly we have a pretty good idea

440
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Speaker 2: about it. But to say that, like tens of thousands

441
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 2: of people will sit around, stand around and watch a

442
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Speaker 2: show that has made for television really with the idea

443
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: of their waiting for an elderly man to put a

444
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: mascot head on his head, and that when that happens

445
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Speaker 2: they go nuts. It's a tough sell. The fact that

446
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Speaker 2: it's become this is pretty remarkable.

447
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Speaker 3: The fact that you talk about watching the now three

448
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Speaker 3: hour program. Yeah, but you're there three or four hours

449
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Speaker 3: prior to the start of the three hour program.

450
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Speaker 2: Yes, you're there, sun up. Yeah, in a lot of instances, Yeah,

451
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Speaker 2: all time. No, it's yeah, it's it's crazy. And that's

452
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Speaker 2: really the only payoff. He was all this is the

453
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Speaker 2: other thing until they landed McAfee, which they kind of

454
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Speaker 2: stumbled into. Until they stumbled into McAfee, Corso was the

455
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Speaker 2: only one who would play to the crowd. Yeah, that's

456
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Speaker 2: the rest of them. Don't the rest of them make

457
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Speaker 2: a TV show? And then Corso plays to the audience. Remember,

458
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Speaker 2: you'll like pump up the team that he's gonna pick

459
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Speaker 2: the all that so It wasn't until they landed McAfee

460
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Speaker 2: that he plays to the crowd the whole show and

461
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Speaker 2: like keeps him in it. Up until that point though

462
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Speaker 2: they didn't do that. It was all on.

463
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Speaker 3: Corso to do it. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. I mean,

464
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Speaker 3: he's worn he's Warren Freddy Bowling Green. He was there

465
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Speaker 3: the first time that game day ever came to a Mexico.

466
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Speaker 2: Here's the other thing that it did. Back in the

467
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Speaker 2: old days when they had physical media guides, when they

468
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: would show like how your team is covered. The picture

469
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: was college game Day was on the media guide somewhere.

470
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Speaker 2: It just was like, a we've made it boys, when

471
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Speaker 2: they're there. I just saw Montana State tweeted out a

472
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Speaker 2: photo of him at the Montana State Montana game from

473
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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago with the head gear. So like,

474
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Speaker 2: it's just one of those things that if you ever

475
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Speaker 2: get him there, you remember it forever.

476
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Speaker 3: So how about how about this on the Lee Corso thing.

477
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Speaker 3: I did not know this, Okay, So every every week

478
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Speaker 3: Lee Corso strictly uses a pencil, yes, number two pencil. Ye,

479
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: a number two pencil. Why In the off season, he

480
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Speaker 3: is the director of business development for Dixon Ticonderoga. But

481
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Speaker 3: that's right, this was in the release that ESPN put up. Really,

482
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Speaker 3: I didn't know that Tyiconderoga is the Florida based manufacturer

483
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Speaker 3: of writing and art products, and Corso's connection with the

484
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Speaker 3: company is an off season roll separate from his work

485
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Speaker 3: as ESPN analyst.

486
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Speaker 2: Really, that's wild. He played at Florida Sate. He's an

487
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: FSU guy played at Florida State. So he says he

488
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: was around a lot, especially when Bowden still at the

489
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Speaker 2: peak of his powers, he was around a lot. Yeah,

490
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Speaker 2: he's I mean, I had Fine Bam on this morning

491
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Speaker 2: and as I do every Thursday, and we were talking

492
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Speaker 2: about it, and he said, you know, he's probably long

493
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: overdue for it. I think we all know that. And

494
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Speaker 2: I did think that, you know, over the last four

495
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Speaker 2: or five years, as Herbie has really propped him up

496
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: and taking I think it's been very endearing the way

497
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Speaker 2: Kirk has taken care of him. I thought, I think

498
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: it's really cool and very loving the way that he's

499
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: taken care of him on game day through the years.

500
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Speaker 2: But also I understand from Lee I never begrudged any

501
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 2: of it because always thought, like, man, this is his

502
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: why this is what he loves to do. Like, it's

503
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Speaker 2: not hurting the show in any way. And they limited

504
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Speaker 2: the amount he was on in recent years, and we

505
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Speaker 2: all knew he's eighty nine years old, Like, come on,

506
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Speaker 2: but I didn't think it ever hurt the show. And

507
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: I think it's still inside the NBA is a more

508
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Speaker 2: fun show. But I think College Game Day is still

509
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Speaker 2: the very best example of what a pregame show can

510
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: be at its best, which is setting the emotional tone

511
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: for the day and setting the How many kids over

512
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: the last twenty years decided to go to school in

513
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: the South based on what they saw on College Game Day?

514
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: Just think about that, how many kids went to Clemson

515
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 2: and Alabama and Auburn and all these places Because you

516
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: turn on a college football Saturday and you see the

517
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: game later in the day, but you see college game

518
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Speaker 2: Day there and it's seventy two degrees in November and

519
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: everyone's dressed up and everyone looks good, and you're like,

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Speaker 2: I want to be a part of that. I just

521
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Speaker 2: can't even imagine what the impact was has been over

522
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Speaker 2: the last thirty years on that show when he's a

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Speaker 2: central part of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so a great Like you said, them stumbling into

525
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 3: McAfee lottery Tech. That will be that that's the bridge.

526
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Speaker 3: Whether you like McAfee or not, he's he's the next

527
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Speaker 3: Courso he's been in some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was already doing it. What was the fact.

529
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Speaker 2: That's why I said stumbled into him like he wasn't

530
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Speaker 2: even at ESPN when they first put him on. The

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Speaker 2: first show McAfee did was at South Dakota State, South

532
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Speaker 2: Kota STATEI and it's North Kota State and he wore

533
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Speaker 2: a venitiery jersey. That was the first one that he did.

534
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Speaker 2: And I think Herbstreet's son maybe was interning for McAfee

535
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: on his show, and that's kind of what made it happen.

536
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: And Herbie was a big proponent to bringing Pat on.

537
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Speaker 2: It's worked. He brings an energy to it that was lacking.

538
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: And yeah, he will be the next. I mean you

539
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: can see he's poised to be the next. Do you

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00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: know the first game college Game Day ever took on

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Speaker 2: the road for do you know what that was?

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Speaker 3: Gibbe.

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Speaker 2: First time college game Day was on a road site,

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Speaker 2: I do not South Bend for Notre Dame Florida State.

545
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Speaker 2: Charlie Ward nineteen ninety three Game of the Century, number

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Speaker 2: one versus number two. Wow, that was the first time

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Speaker 2: they went on the road, and it wasn't I do

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Speaker 2: remember when it wasn't on the road every week, and

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Speaker 2: then by the mid by, within a couple of years,

550
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Speaker 2: it was every week they were on the roads.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, just the ultimate money maker.

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Speaker 7: This week's pretty exciting for our team. We get our

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Speaker 7: players back in the building. You know, obviously Draft weekend approaching,

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Speaker 7: where at least as we sit here today can add

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Speaker 7: ten you know, rookie players to the roster or drafted

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Speaker 7: rookie players to the roster. So you know, we're pretty

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Speaker 7: pumped as we go into as we go into next week.

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Speaker 7: As I always do it, this time I wanted to, uh,

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Speaker 7: you'll really thank our college scouts who make a number

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Speaker 7: of sacrifices over the calendar year, spend a ton of

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Speaker 7: time away from their family, living out of hotels, you know,

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Speaker 7: really beating the bushes for prospects, get to know them

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Speaker 7: as players and people, and and it's it's a bit

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Speaker 7: of a thankless job, right they're behind the scenes. They

585
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Speaker 7: don't get a ton of credit, which is a big

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Speaker 7: reason why on draft weekend we like to bring them

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Speaker 7: out here to talk to you about the guys that

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Speaker 7: we've picked, you know, so you can hear from them,

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Speaker 7: understand why we value their opinion so highly, and they

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Speaker 7: get a little bit of a little bit of credit,

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Speaker 7: a little bit of notoriety for the work that they've

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Speaker 7: been doing. I'd also like to to thank you know,

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Speaker 7: Glenn Cook, Max Paulus, Meghan Rock for their for their

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Speaker 7: management of the process of course, you know, Catherine Hickman

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Speaker 7: and Andrew Healy for you know, their their work and

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Speaker 7: all of our big decisions, you know, joy to pie

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Speaker 7: check and uh Kathleen would for their work in terms

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Speaker 7: of our security and and legal and and player background.

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Speaker 7: You know, all of those those individuals you know contribute

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Speaker 7: above and beyond. So we're excited, we're ready to go.

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Speaker 7: And with that, I'll open up for questions.

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Speaker 8: Ye spoke to at the leading meetings about draft strategy.

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Speaker 8: So you know, after the prodas kind of come together,

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Speaker 8: you formally draft strategy with all signs pointing to the

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Speaker 8: Titans taking cam Ward, do you have that draft strategy

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Speaker 8: and plan you know if that was to happen.

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Speaker 7: So a big part is a big part of this,

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Speaker 7: you know, this week and then going into next week.

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Speaker 7: Is what we call scenario planning and strategy planning. So

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Speaker 7: we're really right in the thick of it, you know, Daniel.

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Speaker 7: And that's not to say that you know, there hasn't

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Speaker 7: been any thought of it at this point. You know,

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Speaker 7: that would be disingenuous. But uh, you know, we're we'll

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Speaker 7: use the whole shot clock, so to speak. You know,

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00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 7: we don't have to make start making decisions until you know,

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Speaker 7: really Thursday night. Uh, And so we'll use all the

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Speaker 7: time afforded to us, and you know, make sure that

618
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Speaker 7: we have a thorough plan depending on you know, what

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Speaker 7: happens at number one.

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Speaker 2: See uh Hunter, you know, uh, I guess he's talking

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Speaker 2: about wanting to play basically all the time.

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Speaker 9: And how how.

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Speaker 3: Do you see him?

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Speaker 7: What about that?

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Speaker 2: Is it practical in the NFL?

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Speaker 7: So I think one of the things that is like

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Speaker 7: you can't probably fully appreciate until you actually see Travis

628
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Speaker 7: play live is just his elite conditioning, like you know,

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Speaker 7: going out and seeing him play a you know, a

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Speaker 7: Colorado He I mean, he really never comes off the

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Speaker 7: field and and it's it's it's unbelievable because like you know,

632
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 7: there are more plays in a college game, then there

633
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Speaker 7: is a there is a pro game, and it's like

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Speaker 7: the guy like he barely pants like that, you know,

635
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Speaker 7: like that the thing. So it's it's it's quite incredible,

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Speaker 7: you know that being said, you know, what he would

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Speaker 7: attempt to do has not you know, been really done

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Speaker 7: in our league. But we wouldn't necessarily put a cap

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Speaker 7: or a governor in terms of like what he could do.

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Speaker 7: You know, we would want to be smart in terms

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Speaker 7: of how we how we started him out. You know,

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Speaker 7: I think I've mentioned before, you know, we would see

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Speaker 7: his his first home as receiver in a second home,

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Speaker 7: you know. The defense on the ball. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 7: I think, you know, one of the big things what

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Speaker 7: he has a number of rare qualities, but probably the

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Speaker 7: rarest is his ability with the ball, his ball skills,

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Speaker 7: and you know, we would want to put him in

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Speaker 7: a position that that maximized that ability. Yeah, I guess

650
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Speaker 7: without getting in too much into the specific planning, because

651
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Speaker 7: you know, he's he's not here, like you know, we

652
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 7: have a decision. But you know that's something that's also unique,

653
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 7: and it's something that, like I said, every team across

654
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 7: the league would would have to figure out wake.

655
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Speaker 6: Of you guys going out to Colorado.

656
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 10: It seems like within the next day everyone in the

657
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 10: whole country was Browns are taking Travis Hunter off the

658
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 10: Chador trail.

659
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 7: It's funny how that works.

660
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 6: Out, and maybe off the Abdul Carter set as well.

661
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Speaker 6: So is that an accurate.

662
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 10: Perception of where you guys are right now?

663
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 6: Are you off of Chador, off of Abdul.

664
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Speaker 7: And focused in? Yeah, it's like why I mentioned with

665
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 7: Dan and you know, we're still working through everything. You know,

666
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 7: we have not made a hard decision in terms of,

667
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 7: you know, how we're gonna utilize the number two pick.

668
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 7: There are a number of guys that we like, you know,

669
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 7: our travels, they were the logical touch points that you

670
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 7: would make for all prospects who are worthy of being

671
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 7: consideration that high in the draft, and that's just happened

672
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 7: to be. I think maybe a lot of times, Mary

673
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 7: Kaye just becomes like the last place that you stopped.

674
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 7: But we're still working through everything.

675
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: You have the combine.

676
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Speaker 10: I know as a whole you talked about this quarterback

677
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 10: class and feeling like there are guys there who can

678
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Speaker 10: be really good NFL players. I guess now that you're

679
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 10: through the combine you're through these pro days, like, do

680
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 10: you still feel like there are multiple guys with starting

681
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 10: potential in this league that that could be helpful to

682
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 10: this team?

683
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 7: I do, Actually, I think you know, we were actually

684
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 7: talking about this yesterday and one of our strategy sessions. Actually, Daniel,

685
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 7: as you're on your phone, I'm give you a hard time.

686
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 7: I'm give you a hard time. I'm give you a

687
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 7: hard time that I think that a lot of the

688
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 7: quarterback position is, uh, you know, the environment that you

689
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 7: put the individual in. You know, whether that's what teammates

690
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 7: s grammatically, what you ask them to do and honestly

691
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 7: what you asked them to do early in their career.

692
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 7: And I think you're starting to see it more and

693
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 7: more across the league that quarterbacks can produce in a

694
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 7: number of different ways. You know, the way that Josh

695
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 7: Allen produces is a lot different than the way that

696
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 7: Rock Party produces. You know, the way that the system

697
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 7: that that Tua runs is a lot different than the

698
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 7: system that Lamar Jackson runs. And you know, I think

699
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 7: it's of great importance for any organization bringing in a

700
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 7: quarterback to understanding what that individual does well and how

701
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 7: you both build, build an offense, and design a scheme

702
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 7: to accentuate that individual strength, because I think as long

703
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 7: as they have a level of baseline talent, you can

704
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 7: have a productive player at the position, as long as

705
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 7: you're thoughtful in terms of building the environment around.

706
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Speaker 3: Them, identifying the quarterback you want, and when to take

707
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: the biggest challenge of your draft.

708
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Speaker 7: I don't know that I would necessarily put it that way, Tony.

709
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 7: Obviously quarterbacks the most important position. I think the biggest

710
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 7: thing that we're thinking about going into this draft is

711
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 7: really just adding good players in good prospects, you know,

712
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 7: not overthinking that way, Like, can't necessarily dictate the draft,

713
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 7: although certainly you have more influence when you're picking as

714
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 7: high as we are this year, but we're really just

715
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 7: looking at good players.

716
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 6: How much does.

717
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 4: Your plans and what you've already done in free agency

718
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 4: shape what you're doing in the draft, and then vice versa.

719
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 7: How much will the draft then go into your plans

720
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 7: for free agency? There is some interplay. I wouldn't say

721
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 7: that it's one that drives the other, but it could

722
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 7: influence the level of investment that you would make at

723
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 7: a certain position. Once you get to get to April.

724
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 7: But that being said, depending on how the draft falls,

725
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 7: our goal and our thought process is making sure that

726
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 7: we can add as many players that we think can

727
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 7: be you know, very high quality, long term contributors. And

728
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 7: you know, sometimes uh, you know that may not be

729
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 7: like you know, an a parent you know need or

730
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 7: an apparent uh or maybe like an obvious pick at

731
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 7: the spot, but just the player is too good to

732
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 7: pass up in this.

733
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Speaker 6: Quarterback classes, it's not as strong as your typical quarterback classes.

734
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 6: And not asking if you feel that way, but does

735
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 6: bring it back Joe Flacco give you more latitude.

736
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 7: Maybe to look at a guy.

737
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 6: Through a more of a long term lens, like a

738
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 6: developmental lens. You know you can bring you can draft

739
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 6: someone in the middle rounds that you can develop and

740
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 6: just kind of have Joe keep the seat warm, as

741
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 6: opposed to having the urgency of finding that guy in

742
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 6: this draft.

743
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 7: And getting him on the field as quickly as possible. No,

744
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 7: I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that that's the case at all, Darryl,

745
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 7: Like we wouldn't consider, you know, signing Joe is having

746
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 7: any real impact in terms of how we would view

747
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 7: taking a quarterback in the draft. You know, we firmly

748
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 7: believe that it's not about picking a player who's you know,

749
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 7: ready to contribute now, it's about trying to find the

750
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 7: player that you think is going to be the best

751
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 7: if you have access to that to that player, and

752
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 7: you know, look, I think you can think about uh,

753
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 7: you know, Patrick Mahomes sat his whole first year. You know,

754
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 7: Josh Allen, it really took to year three for him

755
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 7: to to become Josh Allen. You know, Lamar probably hit

756
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 7: the ground running pretty quickly. You know, Jalen hurts like

757
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 7: there were there were doubts about him until he probably

758
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 7: hit year three. So quarterbacks mature and grow at their

759
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 7: own pace. And our thought isn't in terms of immediacy,

760
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 7: but making the Mexican long term bet.

761
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 11: When when it comes to the quarterback position, there's always

762
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Speaker 11: so much said about you know, this year's class versus

763
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 11: next year's class and sort of comparing how teams are

764
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 11: already sort of projecting ahead. I guess I'm just curious

765
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 11: from your guys perspective, and I'm not it could be

766
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 11: this year, but it could be future years too. Like,

767
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 11: how do you guys, how much evaluation can actually happen

768
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 11: and go on in terms of like what's to come

769
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 11: in future years at that position to allow you guys

770
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 11: to make the best decision on what you want to do,

771
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 11: like how much are you actually waiting?

772
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 7: So we do, you know, particularly with quarterback, we do

773
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 7: look at those classes two years at a time as

774
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 7: opposed to one year at a time. So it is

775
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 7: something that we think about. But there's also a lot

776
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 7: that changes from year to year. So it's it's not

777
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 7: like it's not like that can necessarily be be set

778
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 7: in stone. You know. Players take a step forward in

779
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 7: their growth, some take a step back, and some come

780
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 7: out of nowhere. So you can't necessarily use that as

781
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 7: a hard and fast rule, but it is something that

782
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 7: we like to have, you know, I like to think

783
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 7: about in the background. How do you I'm j okay,

784
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 7: you expect him to be here next in.

785
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five?

786
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 7: Yeah? So again, you know j O case timeline. I

787
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 7: think I mentioned the last time. It is a bit nebulous.

788
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 7: He is progressing, you know, But again right now, I

789
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 7: don't have necessarily like a definitive date for you, Jeff,

790
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 7: how do you see uh?

791
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 6: You brought in Joe now and you have to get

792
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 6: the thought process between putting those two together as your

793
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 6: veteran guys, and then how are you gonna run like.

794
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 4: Who starts or whatever.

795
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I'll answer your second question first, Terry. You

796
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 7: know it, it's about breeding competition and you know, whatever

797
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 7: that room looks like as we go into the spring

798
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 7: and then probably most importantly training camp, you know, all

799
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 7: those individuals will have a chance to compete to be

800
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 7: the starter.

801
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

802
00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 7: In terms of in terms of Joe versus Kenny, you know,

803
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 7: I kind of mentioned earlier. You know, he can he

804
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 7: can fit a number of the different spots in the room.

805
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 7: We obviously know him well. He's an excellent play action passer,

806
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 7: you know, you know, we fund he functions kind of

807
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 7: in our you know, in our system with Kenny younger,

808
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 7: guy mobile, very smart, protects the ball. I think there's

809
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 7: more you know, physical ability in him. A guy we

810
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,959
Speaker 7: did a lot of work on, you know, in that

811
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 7: you know, in that draft process, and obviously you know,

812
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 7: saw him twice a year when he was in when

813
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 7: he was in Pittsburgh, and so we think there's you know,

814
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 7: there's there's there's more to get out of him.

815
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 12: There a big deal for the organization, obviously pretty much

816
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 12: everyone was there.

817
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 4: Why did you guys feel was so important to have

818
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: everyone there proven have him?

819
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 7: Yeah? I think it's Look, anytime you're picking this high,

820
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 7: you want to, you want to you're hoping that's going

821
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 7: to be a player that's going to be with your

822
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 7: organization for fifteen years or something along those lines, and

823
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 7: you're hoping to build a relationship with that player and

824
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 7: his family for a long you know, a long period

825
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 7: of time, like no different than Miles, right, you know Miles,

826
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 7: you know, we retire as a Brown and you know,

827
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 7: going to the Hall of Fame, and you know we've

828
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 7: known him since he's been twenty one years old, known

829
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 7: you know, Lawrence and Audrey since you know, since his

830
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 7: college days. And that's a really special, uh, you know relationship.

831
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 7: And so you're only in these positions a handful of times,

832
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 7: and we feel like it's important for us to establish

833
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 7: those relationships early, not just when they just get into

834
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 7: the building.

835
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Speaker 10: Is trading any of your current veterans on the draft weekends?

836
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 7: I wouldn't rule anything out, Mary, Kay, I wouldn't. I

837
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 7: wouldn't say that that's necessarily like top of mine, But

838
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 7: I think back a couple of years ago with with

839
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 7: Troy Hill. We weren't necessarily going into the weekend thinking

840
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 7: that that was going to be an active trade. You know,

841
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 7: Martin was available in a trade back. We were able

842
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 7: to shed some salary and get an additional pick, So

843
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 7: it made sense for us at the time. Now, wouldn't

844
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 7: rule again being opportunistic out, Yeah, probably.

845
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 13: Skewing younger obviously at the owners means a couple of

846
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 13: weeks ago and that are along those lines with Joe

847
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 13: sort of coming back and the fold here, would you

848
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 13: say that in additions to that room at this point

849
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 13: pretty much you guys have your eyes more so on

850
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 13: the draft than necessarily going out and looking in free

851
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 13: agency to add maybe another veteran.

852
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 7: I would have ruled anything out. Like I'd say, again,

853
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 7: it's about if an opportunity comes up that makes sense,

854
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 7: we'll take advantage of it.

855
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,400
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856
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00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 2: him to set the record straight. Among the quotes, I'm

867
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: in a different phase in my life. I'm forty one

868
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: years old. I'm in a serious relationship. I have off

869
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: the field stuff going on that requires my attention. I

870
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 2: have a lot of things that are taking my attention

871
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: and have been, beginning in January, away from football. That's

872
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: where I've been focusing my attention on. Making a commitment

873
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: to a team is a big thing. I have a

874
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: lot of great conversations with a lot of teams. None

875
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: not one of those was the Jets. That wasn't a

876
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: great conversation. I've been upfront with all of them. I

877
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 2: told every one of the teams I've talked to it's

878
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: not about the money. I never once said I needed

879
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: a multi year deal. I'll play for a cent I

880
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: wasn't stringing anyone along. I wasn't holding anyone hostage. I'm

881
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: open to anything attached to nothing. Retirement could still be

882
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: a possibility, he goes on. Ben Roethlisberger was on the show,

883
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 2: I assume referring to Pat McAfee saying I was waiting

884
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: around for the vikings. That's not accurate. Rogers said that

885
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: he had to think this is pretty amazing, this Jets stuff.

886
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: That he flew across the country a just askeid with

887
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: fly across the country, and then twenty seconds into a

888
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 2: meeting he was told by new coach Aaron Glenn, yeah,

889
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: we're moving on, and he was like, you could have

890
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: just called me with that, which I would agree with.

891
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: Talked about talking with Brian Dable and a good conversation there. Obviously,

892
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: went out to Pittsburgh, tried to do this as quietly

893
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: as possible. A lot of people think I'm desperate for attention.

894
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: I flew into a different airport, I got a Malibu

895
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: rental car, drove the Malibu rental car to the facility

896
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: backside practice field. That's cool on Tomlin, He's more than

897
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 2: I thought from Afar, more than I thought of him.

898
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 3: From afar the Minnesota stuff. He says, I've known Kevin

899
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: O'Connell forever. We have a great friendship. We talk outside

900
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 3: of just football, and we've always had good communication.

901
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: So there's been no deadlines from the Steelers. I've talked

902
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: to Mike t many times. The entire time. I've felt

903
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: like ownyone a decision on any point. This is my

904
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: life now. I've been upfront with him about that, if

905
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: you need to move on, you need to do something

906
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: by all means. So he will not let whatever happens

907
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: in the draft impact his decision on this. In terms

908
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: of working with DK metcalf, I wanted to do due diligence.

909
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: Part of it is talking to a guy like DK. Yeah,

910
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: I guess McVie asking point blank, if you were to

911
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 2: play again, would it be for the Pittsburgh Steelers Rogers.

912
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be open to everything and not attached

913
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 2: to anything when it comes to that decision. I'm not

914
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: holding anyone hostage. He also said, I don't think it's

915
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: fair to the Steelers or anyone, And while I'm dealing

916
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: with a lot of off field stuff, I want to

917
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: keep the lines of communication open to the people. He

918
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: need to know.

919
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: No what number one, it does feel like you're holding

920
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: the franchise hostage. Now it's the Steelers. So I'm totally

921
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: fine with that.

922
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: Let's just examine that one line though. He said the

923
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,479
Speaker 2: people who need to know no, So maybe the people

924
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: who need to know in Pittsburgh know they're behaving as

925
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: if they think he's going to play for them. Yeah,

926
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: so I'm going to operate under that until and maybe

927
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 2: he's just saying there's some things that got to work out,

928
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: but it it feels like Pittsburgh is behaving as if

929
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 2: they're going to have him. So that line where he

930
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: says the people who need to know know, that tells

931
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 2: me about all I need to know right now. He says,

932
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 2: I'm taking care of my people right now. Okay, Yeah,

933
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: Jersey Cherry, we love from barstool. So we got nothing

934
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 2: draft in a week, but not holding anyone hostage, got it?

935
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

936
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: I think they know. That's what I think. I think

937
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: they know. I don't think it'll affect what they do

938
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: at twenty one. No, dr Sanders falls to twenty one,

939
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: maybe they take him, but I think they know Rogers intent.

940
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: And my hunch is based on I mean They're only

941
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: where are they if they don't get him, they would

942
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: then have to try and trade for cousins because I

943
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: don't think they're going to go Mason Rudolph and Skyler

944
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: Thompson after trading for DK Metcalf. That doesn't make sense

945
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: to me. Yeah, So that's that's my guess on how

946
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: all of that goes. But that was Aaron Rodgers on

947
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: Pat McAfee. Dane Brewler is going to join this show

948
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,960
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Speaker 2: One week from today, the first round of the NFL Draft.

957
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: If you're watching on the stream right now, you know

958
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 2: that I have in front of me the Beast and

959
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: the lovely g Man has put this in a binder.

960
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 2: The thing looks like it's huge. And the man who

961
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 2: wrote The Beast is a great Dane Brugler, NFL draft

962
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: analyst at the Athletic. He joins us now on the

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Speaker 2: Twisted T Hotline presented by Twisted Hard Iced tea official

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00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 2: sponsor of your Cleveland Browns, Keep it Twisted Cleveland. Dane,

965
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: have you what have you ever done? What g Man

966
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: did here with the Beast? Like he's got it in

967
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: a binder, it's laminated. It's the thing's huge, buddy. It's

968
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: like the old days, like you go into like a

969
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: library and you'd see like the dictionary that was a

970
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: billion pages. That's what's in front of the desk right now, Buddy.

971
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 4: I love it. That's awesome to hear. And honestly, that's

972
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 4: that's the coolest part after its released, is to I

973
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 4: get a lot of people send me pictures about the

974
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 4: way they've printed it out, the way that they consume

975
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 4: it and all that. And so you got a lot

976
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:10,959
Speaker 4: of reading to do between now and next week.

977
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 2: Buddy, I'm gonna text you the picture. I'm gonna text

978
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: it to you now and you can you can take

979
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 2: a look at it. For one, it's an incredible effort

980
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: that was done and it is as it's everything you

981
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: need about the draft. So let's get to it. Because

982
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: you had your seven round mock yesterday, your Andrew Berry.

983
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: The consensus is the cam Ward goes one.

984
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 4: What do you do it too, I'm taking the best

985
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 4: player in the draft, and that's Travis Hunter. It's got

986
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 4: a funny two weeks ago when the winds started to

987
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: shift a little bit and it seemed like Travis Hunter

988
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 4: was kind of leaning towards being the pick for the Browns,

989
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: and it was like this, big news, guys, he's the

990
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 4: best player in the draft. Of course, he's someone the

991
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 4: Browns have been considering this entire time. And it is interesting.

992
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 4: I give Andrew Berry a lot of credit for being

993
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 4: very open about how they would use him if he

994
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 4: would indeed be the pick, saying that they view him

995
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 4: as an offensive player that they would also want to

996
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: use on defense as well. And it's it's interesting because

997
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 4: other teams feel the opposite. They want to see him

998
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 4: as a primarily a corner, but you also work him

999
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 4: in on offense. But I think it makes sense for

1000
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 4: the Browns. This is a team that ranked thirty two

1001
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 4: in the league in offensive scoring thirty second in their

1002
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 4: down conversion. So to give an offensive spark to this

1003
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 4: team makes a ton of sense. And Travis Hunter, the

1004
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 4: athleticism that he brings the ball instincts, you bet on

1005
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 4: that every time.

1006
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: Dan is there, Let's take it both ways. At corner,

1007
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 2: where are the holes if any? With Travis Hunter, Well, you.

1008
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 4: Know he's a little bit leaner than you want, like

1009
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 4: he's not, and really that counts for both receiver and corner.

1010
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 4: Where you know, at corner you're going to be making

1011
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 4: a lot more contact in terms of tackles on a

1012
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 4: down to down basis. At receiver, you know, can you

1013
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 4: consistently get off physical defensive backs when they get hands

1014
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 4: on you at the top of routes, He's going to

1015
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 4: see a lot more press at the NFL level. So

1016
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 4: just besides, you know, he has good height, good length,

1017
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 4: But in terms of the muscle on his frame, he's

1018
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 4: very lean in his lower half, just his legs and

1019
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: his limbs in general. So you know, I don't think

1020
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 4: he's ever going to be a guy that carries two

1021
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 4: hundred and five pounds. That's just not really how he's built.

1022
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 4: So just maximizing that the strength that he does have

1023
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 4: and being physical and so I don't question that he's

1024
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 4: not physical. It's just he's not going to be someone

1025
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 4: that easily gets off press with pure strength.

1026
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: On the offensive side, which is what Andrew Berry says.

1027
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: They view him as first and then they would work

1028
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: him defensively. Where are the holes with him as a receiver?

1029
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 4: I think it's more about becoming more consistent as a

1030
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 4: route runner, Like I wouldn't call him a route technician

1031
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 4: by any means. You want to see him in the NFL.

1032
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 4: Playing receiver is all about timing and salesmanship. You know,

1033
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 4: you need to be on the same page with the quarterback,

1034
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 4: the same timing. It's almost like a dance. You know,

1035
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 4: the footwork has to be precise, and it's just you're

1036
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 4: a little bit off. The timing's off, throws the playoff,

1037
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 4: the where the catch window is going to be is

1038
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 4: going to be a little bit off. So just being

1039
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 4: more consistent as a route runner and just understanding how

1040
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 4: to manipulate the defensive backs. But you know, if anybody

1041
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 4: understands how to do that, it's a guy that also

1042
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 4: plays defensive back and understands what he's looking for in

1043
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: terms of tells by the receiver and different things like that.

1044
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 4: So you want him to become a more well rounded

1045
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 4: player on offense. And he's always been the best athlete

1046
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 4: anytime he stepped foot on the football field, so you know,

1047
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 4: it's just a matter. And we find this is the

1048
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 4: case with a lot of top tier athletes where maybe

1049
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 4: they were bigger, stronger than everybody else, or just purely

1050
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 4: a better athlete faster. Once you get to the NFL,

1051
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 4: there's a lot of athletes that are on the same level,

1052
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: and what separates everybody is the guys that do the

1053
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 4: football specific traits, you know, the technique and just the

1054
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 4: different savvy levels of playing the game. That's what separates you.

1055
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 4: And so just getting better in those areas. But again,

1056
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 4: the ball instincts, the athleticism, those are the type of

1057
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 4: traits that you bet on.

1058
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: If and you watched all the tape. I watched him

1059
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 2: play a lot. He had my Heisman vote last year,

1060
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: and I mine is more anecdotal, but it didn't feel

1061
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: like if the ball was in the air, he ever

1062
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: lost it. And I meant that both offensively and defensively.

1063
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: It felt like his ball skills when he's playing corner

1064
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: and receiver were as good as I've seen it seems

1065
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: like if the ball was in the vicinity, he got it.

1066
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 4: That's that's exactly what I mean when I say ball instincts,

1067
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 4: Like it's just different with him. He has such a

1068
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 4: good feel for it. And then because he is a

1069
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 4: little bit longer and he has really good hands, you

1070
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 4: don't see a lot of drops on his film. Yeah,

1071
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 4: he like anything close to him is his catch space.

1072
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 4: And so that is something that you want to take

1073
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 4: advantage of on both sides of the ball, whether you

1074
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 4: know you put him at corner, you put him at receiver.

1075
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 4: He can be a three level threat, like he can

1076
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 4: win down the field, but you also want to give

1077
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 4: him chances underneath where he can be a snatch and

1078
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 4: go type of guy. So, you know, I think it's

1079
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 4: interesting when you talk about Travis Hunter as purely a receiver,

1080
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 4: like where would he rank in last year's because he's

1081
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 4: wider to me, he's corner one in this class. He's

1082
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 4: also wide receiver one in this class. But if you

1083
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 4: put him in last year's class, which was a top

1084
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 4: heavy group at receiver, where would he rank? And so

1085
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 4: for me, I gave Marvin Harrison Junior and Milieue neighbors

1086
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 4: basically the same grade at the top, and I think

1087
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter is just the littlest bit behind those two guys,

1088
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 4: but ahead of Romadunza and Brian Thomas Junior, who you

1089
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 4: know both are really promising NFL receivers. So you know,

1090
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,479
Speaker 4: in a class like this where he's clearly the best guy,

1091
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 4: even last year where was loaded at the top, he's

1092
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 4: right there in the mix with those top five receivers.

1093
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 2: Dan, if they if it is Hunter at two and

1094
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: they follow the the emphasis is going to start on

1095
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: offense and then it will lead to we'll work it

1096
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: in on defense. What from your vantage point, all the

1097
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 2: all that you've watched of him, what should that plan

1098
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: look like? And when it goes to defense, is it?

1099
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: Is it corner right away? Obviously he feels like he

1100
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: played man, you just put him in there at that

1101
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: or is it something else? Is he is he maybe

1102
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: in the back end, is just like a center field

1103
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: or tracking down balls? What would your plan be for him?

1104
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, and that's why I liked him better at corner,

1105
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 4: like because you're gonna have a primary position and then

1106
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 4: a secondary position. And I liked him better as a

1107
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 4: full time corner, just I think it's upsides higher there,

1108
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 4: Like I think three four years from now he could

1109
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 4: be a top three corner in the NFL, maybe sooner.

1110
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 4: Whereas an offense, I think he'll be a top ten

1111
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 4: receiver in the NFL. And and so I certainly understand,

1112
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 4: you know why, and prefer them on offense, But theoretically,

1113
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 4: it just seems easier to have a full time defensive

1114
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 4: player and then you mix in a package of you know,

1115
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 4: twenty five ish plays a game where you can get

1116
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 4: the ball in his hands eight to ten times a game.

1117
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 4: If he's going to be a full time offensive player,

1118
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 4: you know, it might be a little bit tougher to

1119
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 4: figure out how you're you know, mixing and matching a

1120
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 4: personnel to get him on the field. But look, if

1121
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 4: anybody can do it, it's this guy. And there's a

1122
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 4: reason we haven't seen it happen very often. If ever,

1123
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 4: you know, it's very very rare for a player to

1124
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 4: do this, but I mean, Travis Hunter did at a

1125
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 4: high level. He even played special teams in college, and

1126
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 4: so we talk about the athleticism and what it takes

1127
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 4: to do that, but I don't think enough is made

1128
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 4: of just a mental commitment. You know, there's the conditioning

1129
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 4: part of this as well, but the mental commitment that

1130
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 4: it takes to understand the playbook, understand your responsibilities, you

1131
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 4: know it all the work it takes during the week

1132
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 4: to be prepared to be on the field twenty four

1133
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 4: to seven every single snap's that's just it's but it

1134
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 4: looks very natural for him, and so you know, talking

1135
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 4: to scouts, they kind of back that up with the

1136
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 4: interviews and what coaches say about him. You know, like

1137
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 4: he he loves his fiance, he loves to go fishing,

1138
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 4: but football is right up there with his favorite things

1139
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 4: to do. And besides those three things, he doesn't have

1140
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 4: a ton of outside hobbies. So you know, if anybody

1141
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 4: can do it, it seems like Hunters the guy that

1142
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 4: can do it.

1143
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,479
Speaker 2: Dan, If it's not Hunter, it too. What's the pick

1144
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: that you would go, Okay, I get it.

1145
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 4: Well, I mean just at the top of the draft

1146
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 4: is two players. It's Travis Hunter and uh it's a

1147
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 4: dual Carter and I think you could you know, obviously

1148
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 4: with the quarterback position and just it's waited a little

1149
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 4: bit differently. If cam Ward were available at number two,

1150
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 4: I one hundred percent believe that would be the pick

1151
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 4: for the Browns. And then I think Ashton GenZ from

1152
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 4: Boise State. You know, the running back conversation is one

1153
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 4: that gets I think a little bit, like I understand

1154
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 4: not paying a running back, you know that second contract

1155
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 4: like a big money. I get that, But there's no

1156
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 4: reason why you can't draft from running back in the

1157
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 4: top ten, like especially when that's special like Ashon Genty.

1158
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 4: You know, he should be at least considered at that pick.

1159
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 4: It's not the direction I would go, but it should

1160
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 4: be at least considered. And then four five six, Ashon

1161
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 4: Genty is gonna be top of mind for all those teams.

1162
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 4: But Abduall Carter and you know, the pass rush potential

1163
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 4: of him and Miles Garrett would be scary for opposing

1164
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 4: offenses knowing you have to block both those guys. Abduall

1165
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 4: Carter with you know, obviously coming off the stress fracture

1166
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 4: in his foot, so we don't have any testing information

1167
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 4: for him, but you just throw on that Notre Dame

1168
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 4: tape in the playoff and see him with one bum

1169
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 4: with what abump shoulder based playing hurt, just leaving it

1170
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 4: all out there and making an impact consistently. You don't

1171
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 4: need a squint to see that. All right, this guy's

1172
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 4: a difference maker, and the different ways he can get

1173
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 4: home affect a quarterback play the run. You know, if

1174
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 4: he doesn't go two, I bet he goes three. And regardless,

1175
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 4: you're getting a good player.

1176
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 2: All right, Before we get to the rest of your

1177
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: seven round mock. In terms of what the Browns have

1178
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: to do, I do not have it in front of me.

1179
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: What did you do with Chador? Where did you have

1180
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: him falling?

1181
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 7: Now?

1182
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 4: I had him going to the Steelers at twenty one,

1183
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 4: and you know, if he gets past the Giants are

1184
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 4: a wild card to three. You know, we know that.

1185
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 4: But if he gets past three, which I right now

1186
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 4: a week out I say he does, then it's Chador

1187
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 4: watch and it's okay. The Saints at nine the potential

1188
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 4: fit I don't but I don't see that happening. And

1189
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 4: then so does he make it to the twenties. And

1190
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 4: you know, with the Steelers at twenty one, we know

1191
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 4: their quarterback situation very much in flux right now. They

1192
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 4: brought in Chador for a thirty visit, so that's very

1193
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 4: much a possibility. And if it doesn't happen there. Do

1194
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 4: we see a trade up from a team like the Browns,

1195
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 4: team like the Giants to get to twenty four to

1196
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 4: twenty five to get standards or a different quarterback at

1197
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 4: that point. So it's going to be an exercise that's

1198
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 4: quarterback musical chairs once we get into the back half

1199
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 4: a round one.

1200
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 2: All right, So in round two, at the top of

1201
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 2: round two, you have us taking misi ole miss quarterback

1202
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart. You have he's considerably lower on your overall

1203
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: I think you have him forty ninth on your top

1204
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: one hundred list, but going thirty third overall, and obviously

1205
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 2: when it's a quarterback, you're gonna get a big boost

1206
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 2: because of the importance of position. What do you like

1207
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: about Dart? And if the Browns go that way at

1208
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: thirty three, do you understand why?

1209
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 4: Yeah? And I he's a guy that ideally I would

1210
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 4: draft somewhere in the mid second round and develop him

1211
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 4: because I think he's not ready to go out of

1212
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 4: the gate, like he's gonna need a little bit of time.

1213
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 4: But you know, like you said, quarterback to get a bump,

1214
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 4: and you have to draft them where you have to

1215
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 4: draft them and if you like the player enough, then

1216
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 4: you I don't think you have any problem taking him

1217
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 4: at thirty three or even trading into the first round

1218
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 4: to make sure that you get him. He's a good

1219
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 4: side of the athlete, good arm, has all the tools,

1220
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 4: The intangibles are off the charts, the competitiveness that he

1221
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 4: plays with. His teammates love him, both offensive guys defensive guys.

1222
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,919
Speaker 4: I talked to teammates that he both sides of the ball.

1223
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 4: That just raved about him as a leader. And the

1224
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 4: way he connects with everybody in the roster doesn't matter

1225
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 4: if you're the top receiver or you're the backup safety.

1226
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 4: He's going to connect with all of you. Really productive

1227
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 4: at old myths and it just comes down to he

1228
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 4: played in a system that was, you know, a little

1229
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 4: more simplistic than what he's going to see in the NFL,

1230
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 4: and so can he make those full field progressions? Can

1231
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 4: he get to the backside read consistently? There were a

1232
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 4: lot of times whereas one read dropped your eyes and

1233
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 4: then you know he's a really good athlete and that

1234
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 4: shows on film a lot of first downs with his legs.

1235
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 4: But in the NFL, it's like, Okay, learn how to

1236
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 4: be a little more patient from the pocket, let those

1237
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 4: routes develop and not just take off and run just

1238
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 4: you know when the first hint of pressure starts to show.

1239
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 4: So there's going to be development needed here. But you

1240
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 4: see the tools, you see the intangibles, and I could

1241
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 4: certainly understand why you'd bet on that.

1242
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love everything about the idea of ole Miss.

1243
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 2: I love Giffen, I love the baby blue uniforms, the helmets,

1244
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 2: all of it. And I was rooting for him to

1245
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: get into playoff. And so I'm watching the game at

1246
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 2: Florida and I'm thinking to myself, you win this, buddy,

1247
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 2: and ole Miss is dancing. They're in the playoff and

1248
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: he threw one of the worst interceptions you're ever gonna

1249
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 2: see him in college.

1250
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 9: Football, and end of that game was rough.

1251
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 2: It's brutal, man, it was brutal. And he played decent

1252
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 2: the week before against Georgia in a game that they won,

1253
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 2: which felt kind of set him up for this run.

1254
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 2: But I always go back to that the end of

1255
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: that Florida game and going wow. And I know everybody

1256
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 2: knows Lane's offense is pretty simplistic, and everything that goes

1257
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 2: into it when you say you have to. That's why

1258
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 2: maybe this situation would be good though, right Dane, because

1259
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: you've got Flacco here for a year, veteran presence, you

1260
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: got pickt who's a first round pick. You you would

1261
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 2: not be forced to throw him on the field. And

1262
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: it feels like he needs quarterback finishing school, right, And.

1263
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 4: I think you know there's going to be bo Nick's

1264
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 4: comparisons with him, and just you know, they were in

1265
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 4: college for a long time, starters, transfers, all of that,

1266
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 4: They have some skill set similarities. So I get it.

1267
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 4: But bo Nicks is ready to go right away, where

1268
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 4: with Dart it will take a little bit of time.

1269
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 4: And you want to develop him at his own pace.

1270
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 4: You don't want to throw him in before he's ready.

1271
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 4: You don't want to force him onto the field out

1272
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 4: of necessity to see what you have. You have to

1273
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 4: let him develop. You have to be a little bit

1274
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 4: patient with him, so you know, and whether or not

1275
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 4: that's you know, the coaching staff's going to feel comfortable

1276
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,959
Speaker 4: with that. That's that's kind of a million dollar question

1277
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 4: that we just don't know exactly how the Browns feel

1278
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 4: about him. But I can understand why ultimately, he ends

1279
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 4: up somewhere in the top thirty five picks.

1280
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: If it's not Dart at thirty three, who would it?

1281
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 2: What other quarterback would make sense for you?

1282
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if they're looking for more of a

1283
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 4: player that's ready to go, I mean, Tyler Shock is

1284
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 4: a player as a quarterback that a lot of NFL

1285
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 4: teams really like. And you see why. Six' four, thirty

1286
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty pounds good. Athlete he's a mobile,

1287
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 4: guy can move. Around he has throws with a lot

1288
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 4: of velocity on his. Ball he's a power. Thrower he's

1289
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 4: got some twitch in his. Throws it's just that he's

1290
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 4: a seventh year, senior gonna be a twenty six year old.

1291
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 4: Rookie and obviously we know this team cares about, age

1292
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 4: but this is a unique circumstance like this isn't you?

1293
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 4: Know this is a player who was injured a. Lot

1294
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 4: this is the first time his past year At louisville

1295
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 4: where he played more than eight games in a, Season

1296
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 4: and so the medicals need to check out. Now if

1297
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 4: they're gonna be willing to be a little more patient

1298
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 4: with the quarterback position and develop, them Then Jalen milroe

1299
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 4: becomes more of a possibility who is explosive with his

1300
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 4: legs some of his, runs and it's just it's immediate speed.

1301
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 4: Too it's not like build up. Speed it's, boom blink

1302
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 4: and he's. Gone and you, know it's just he's A

1303
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 4: you talk to some scout AND i, said it's going

1304
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 4: to tay too. Long other scouts give me the guy

1305
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 4: that's hard to, defend and That's Jalen. Milroe because you

1306
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 4: watch The wisconsin, tape you watch The georgia. Tape you

1307
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 4: see a guy that can stress the defense in all

1308
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 4: these different ways with his, legs with his. Arm it's

1309
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 4: just can he be more consistent as a passer he

1310
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 4: thrown The oklahoma tape in The michigan, game and you

1311
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 4: see a guy with the pocket feel isn't quite there.

1312
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 4: Yet the consistency with his mechanics and his accuracy not

1313
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 4: quite there. Yet so it will take a little bit of.

1314
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 4: Time but you're encouraged by the raw, traits the fact

1315
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 4: that he does have a strong, arm he's an elite,

1316
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 4: athlete and he's a good sized, player he's two hundred

1317
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 4: and twenty. Pounds but also the fact that he's you,

1318
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 4: know he won the academic. Heisman you, know he's a smart,

1319
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 4: guy and so you, know you feel good about the

1320
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 4: character that you're bringing in as. Well so if you

1321
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 4: can be a little patient with the, quarterback you're going

1322
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 4: to be a lot more open To Jalen.

1323
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 2: Milroe you know that he's one of the more confounding

1324
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 2: guys for me because he played maybe the best quarterback

1325
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 2: GAME i saw all year In georgia Winn and they

1326
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 2: really just Had Ryan williams and their offensive line wasn't.

1327
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 2: Great they have a lot of, weapons a lot of

1328
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: their weapons transferred, out but they had seventeen year Old

1329
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 2: Ryan williams and it Was, milroe And milroe was. Unbelievable

1330
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 2: and then you mentioned The oklahoma film, incompetent like they

1331
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: couldn't do, Anything and it's so hard with these guys

1332
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 2: to like try to. PROJECT i think that's why it's

1333
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 2: so hard for THESE nfl teams, too, buddy because it's

1334
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: like you see these, Flashes you're, like is there more

1335
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: of that in? There can we get that out of?

1336
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 2: Them or is what we saw At oklahoma is That Jaylen? Milroe,

1337
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 2: like so you have to have the patience and you

1338
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: have to be incubated wherever you.

1339
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 4: Land you have to be honest with yourself as an

1340
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 4: evaluator about, okay LIKE i love the idea of, this

1341
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 4: but what are the percent chance that this is going

1342
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 4: to play? Out and you, know you have to trust

1343
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 4: your coaching. Staff you have to be in lockstep with

1344
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 4: your coaches that they feel the same confidence you do

1345
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 4: that you can develop the. Player and it's you, know

1346
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 4: it's Why Andrew barry makes the big, bucks. Right you,

1347
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,520
Speaker 4: know he has to ultimately make the decision About, okay

1348
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 4: which you, know talking to Coach, tafanski talking to the

1349
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 4: rest of you, know his lieutenants around, him just being

1350
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 4: more confident about the quarterback they decide is the way to.

1351
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 4: Go but being honest with. Themselves you know if they

1352
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 4: do Go dart or Mill, row that it might take

1353
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 4: a little bit of time and you're gonna have to

1354
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 4: eat your vegetables in the meantime while you're developing these.

1355
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: Guys dan and we're talking with the Great Dane bruger

1356
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: with The beast is. Available his latest mock draft seven

1357
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 2: rounder dropped, Yesterday all available with The athletic looking at

1358
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 2: your mock draft and we don't need to go through

1359
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: every name on this. List the folks can do, it

1360
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: and they're. There but one thing That nathan AND i

1361
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 2: have been pretty consistent with was. Weapons, weapons. Weapons you're

1362
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 2: gonna if it follows your, mock you're getting one at,

1363
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 2: one potentially quarterback of the future at thirty. Three you

1364
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 2: went offensive tackle at sixty, seven then edge after. That

1365
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 2: all of that stuff kind of checks. Out but if

1366
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: you need to add, weapons and The browns really need

1367
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 2: to add a couple of, receivers they need to add a,

1368
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: back they need to add a, tackle they need to

1369
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: add a, quarterback let's just do running. BACK i think

1370
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 2: they need to add a tight. End running, back tight,

1371
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: end receive or second, round third, round fourth. Round who

1372
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 2: are some guys you love in those?

1373
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: Spots all, Right.

1374
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 4: Well here we're gonna go to one school for all these.

1375
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 4: Answers in the Second in the second, Round i'd Go

1376
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 4: Terrence ferguson From, oregon who is really. Athletic he can get,

1377
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 4: open he's really clean at the catch, point has some

1378
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 4: juice after the. CATCH i really Like Terrence ferguson From.

1379
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 4: Oregon he's to me one of the more underrated players

1380
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 4: in this. Draft in a third, round running Back Jordan,

1381
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 4: james who was a big part of What oregon was

1382
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 4: this year on, offense almost thirteen hundred, yards fifteen. Touchdowns

1383
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 4: he's a guy that's not a home run, hitter like

1384
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 4: he's not going to break off a sixty yard, run

1385
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 4: but he'll get you six. Consistently and you love the

1386
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 4: no nonsense run style that he. Brings he understands the blocking,

1387
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 4: scheme he's, patient also has that short area burst where

1388
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 4: he's going to fit through tight. Holes he's going to

1389
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 4: find the sticks and just consistently pick up more yards

1390
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 4: than he. Should and when both these, Guys Jordan James

1391
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 4: Bucky irving were on the field last year For oregon

1392
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty, THREE i Thought Jordan james is a

1393
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 4: better running back just watching them one after the, other

1394
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 4: and we saw the rookie year That Bucky irving had

1395
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 4: so big fan Of Jordan. James and then the fourth

1396
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 4: Round Ted, johnson the smaller. Receiver the size is a

1397
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 4: tough pill to, swallow one hundred and fifty, pounds fifty five.

1398
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 4: Pounds you know he's not a big, guy but you

1399
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 4: know you have to catch up to him first before

1400
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 4: you get hands on him And that's kind of the

1401
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 4: difference with him is he's so quick catches the. Ball,

1402
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 4: well he's a very natural receiver for a guy that

1403
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 4: is so small on, paper he doesn't really play that.

1404
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 4: Small he plays bigger than he. Looks and so to

1405
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 4: get a weapon like that in the fourth, ROUND i,

1406
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 4: THINK i think would work for the team like.

1407
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 2: This how much film do you watch for the? BEAST i.

1408
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 4: COULDN'T i couldn't quantify. Him and it's just it's a

1409
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 4: year on, thing it really. Is and it's talking to

1410
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 4: EVERYONE i can, talking you, know, scouts, coaches players. Themselves

1411
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 4: and then If i'm not on the phone or, Texting

1412
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 4: i'm watching the film and trying to really you, know

1413
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 4: my job is to collect all the puzzle pieces and

1414
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 4: then put them together and try to give you, know

1415
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 4: if you know nothing about the, player hopefully collecting all

1416
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 4: the puzzle pieces or most of the puzzle pieces and

1417
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 4: putting together the picture will help just give it more

1418
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 4: clear idea of who each one of these guys.

1419
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 2: Are when does twenty twenty six?

1420
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 4: Start it started a while, ago already ended. Well, inevitably

1421
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 4: you're watching tape and you're watching a certain, player but

1422
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 4: then someone catches your eye and you're, like, oh, okay

1423
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 4: this left, TACKLE i need to write them, down and

1424
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 4: you find, out, oh he's not draft eligible until twenty twenty,

1425
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 4: six or you, know you're talking to a scout and

1426
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 4: he brings, up, oh, hey make sure you get eyes

1427
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 4: on this. Guy so inevitably it starts way earlier than

1428
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 4: you know it. Should but that's just kind of the

1429
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 4: nature of the. Beast and you, know, HONESTLY i need

1430
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 4: more than a full year to get this thing.

1431
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 2: Done it's one of the most, comprehensive impressive feats of

1432
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 2: information That i've. Seen my, friend you do it every.

1433
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 2: Year it's a stunning. Accomplishment we are always so gracious

1434
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 2: of your time and thankful for. It thank you for

1435
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 2: giving us a little bit of it, Today Bud.

1436
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 4: NO i appreciate the kind of words that was always

1437
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 4: fun hopping on with, you And i'm sure we'll talk.

1438
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 2: Soon i'm sure we. Will, yes we. Will The Great Dane,

1439
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Speaker 3: It it's you're in and you're outre and G man

1457
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 3: had never seen it, before AND i have.

1458
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 2: Had no idea What you.

1459
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 3: Try to explain, it and then you go there's no

1460
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 3: explaining in it till you actually open the file and

1461
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 3: you see five hundred and forty two.

1462
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 2: Pages, yeah in the you, know like when you like

1463
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 2: when people used to go to libraries and you'd go

1464
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 2: to the library and you'd, see like on the podium

1465
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 2: the Giant Webster's. Dictionary, yeah that's basically what that's be,

1466
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 2: like opened up, everyone.

1467
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 3: Comprehensive like down to like what the guy likes to

1468
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 3: do for. Hobbies, yeah he's a great yucher. Player so

1469
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 3: and so is a.

1470
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 2: Champion this you wouldn't get it anywhere. Else AND i think,

1471
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 2: about you know, what when WHEN i used to do

1472
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 2: the draft stuff with you, guys and the stuff that

1473
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna do with the draft next week on The

1474
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns radio. Network it's your, gut it's your, lifeline because,

1475
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 2: LOOK i could have NAMED i could when we Had Dane,

1476
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 2: ON i could have went over these. GUYS i could

1477
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 2: have gone Over we Did hunter In dart primarily and

1478
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: then we did position kind of, Agnostic but COULD i

1479
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 2: could have asked him About Ozzie. TRAPIO i could asked

1480
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: him About Sadi On. JONES i could ask him About

1481
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: Jordan james AND. Cj deprie And KeAndre Lambert smith And

1482
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 2: Nick martin And Justin wally And Marquis. Single here's the.

1483
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 2: Deal ninety nine percent of you out there listening don't

1484
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 2: know who any of those people are and it doesn't

1485
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 2: mean they. Don't their names don't mean anything to you

1486
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: until they Become Cleveland. Browns, correct when they Become Cleveland,

1487
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 2: browns then you need to know about. Them, now WHAT

1488
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 2: i look for and most of these mock, drafts once

1489
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 2: you get past the first two rounds is positionally does

1490
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 2: it make? Sense does this make sense from a position?

1491
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 2: Standpoint So dane having us Go travis at two, Overall

1492
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 2: Jackson dart at thirty, three officly tackle at sixty, Seven

1493
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 2: edge at ninety four running back at one oh, four

1494
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 2: does that make sense with who we? ARE i think

1495
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 2: everything does there except for maybe edge just because we

1496
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 2: have so. Many, YEAH i don't know if we'd go

1497
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 2: edge in the third. Round Maybe i'd like to see

1498
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 2: tight end up in there in the third round something like.

1499
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 2: That but there's still. That, positionally it makes. Sense and

1500
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 2: with this supplies is the backstory on the guys you,

1501
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 2: pick and that's. Why and by the, way this comes

1502
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: with your subscription to the. Athletic that right there pays

1503
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,519
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1504
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 2: penny that you would pay to the. Athletic, yeah he's

1505
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 2: it's all time, stuff so really good and the draft

1506
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 2: is next week and we'll see how it all shakes.

1507
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 2: Out are we?

1508
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 6: Do we?

1509
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 3: Are we?

1510
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: Good you're?

1511
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 3: Good we're?

1512
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 2: Good all, Right let's go to a segment that was

1513
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: on the best podcast. Available here's the voice of The

1514
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,799
Speaker 2: Cleveland browns And siciliano And givee sitting down WITH ESPN

1515
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 2: nfl draft Analysts Field.

1516
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 14: Yates today we have the guy that's gonna be AN

1517
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 14: abc On thursday And Friday Green bay, COVERAGE fronyespn for the,

1518
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 14: draft and Then saturday at the desk all day, Long Field,

1519
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 14: Yates welcome to the best podcast. AVAILABLE i didn't name,

1520
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 14: it but SOMETIMES i feel like the name is App

1521
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 14: how are you?

1522
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 15: MAN i would agree with that assessment of the.

1523
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 12: Name And i'm doing. Great it's good to catch up

1524
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 12: with you. GUYS i Saw andrew for a while In

1525
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 12: indianapolis at the. Combine it is good to catch up

1526
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,839
Speaker 12: and it's an exciting time right now for The Cleveland.

1527
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 12: Browns you don't love the process of getting to the

1528
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 12: number two pick in the, draft but it's kind of

1529
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 12: fun to imagine the possibilities at number, two especially in

1530
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 12: this year's draft.

1531
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 9: Class, YEAH i am over the.

1532
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 14: Process i'll be honest with. You i'm With Andrew berry

1533
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 14: who said back In, MOBILE i have no. Patience let's get.

1534
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 14: Here but we're not, there at least not. Yet but

1535
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 14: we are inside of three. Weeks you were At colorado

1536
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 14: PRO da And. Boulder we get To Travis hunter in a,

1537
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 14: second but let's do the quarterback.

1538
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 4: First.

1539
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 9: Here what did you see from Shrad Or? Sanders AND

1540
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 9: i guess maybe your picture Here?

1541
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:04,560
Speaker 14: Field did you see a guy THAT i hate to

1542
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 14: use the word, worthy Because i'm not questioning the young

1543
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 14: man's personal value or. WORTH i like the, kid but

1544
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 14: did you see a guy worthy of the number two overall.

1545
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 12: PICK i went into the pro day hoping that my

1546
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 12: perspective On Shador sanders would be pretty similar to what

1547
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 12: it was going into the pro. DAY i didn't want

1548
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 12: to go there and, say, WOW i really underestimated the,

1549
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 12: thrower BECAUSE i really feel LIKE i put a lot

1550
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 12: of time into the evaluation of the film for the

1551
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 12: past two seasons BECAUSE i thought there was a chance

1552
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 12: he was going to come out during last year's draft as.

1553
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 12: WELL i also didn't want to go in there and, say,

1554
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 12: hey and that arm really isn't WHAT i. Expected it

1555
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 12: to be and Maybe i've overestimated where he's going to

1556
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 12: go in the, Draft AND i kind of felt the

1557
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 12: same coming out AS i did going into.

1558
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 15: It you wanted to see the. Accuracy it was all

1559
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 15: there on.

1560
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 12: Display we can quibble over the value of PRO dae,

1561
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 12: statistics But i'm just here to tell you the ball

1562
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 12: did not here hit the ground often turn this throwing.

1563
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 12: Session on top of, that it was expecting to see howitzer.

1564
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 12: Arm WAS i expecting to See Josh allen out there

1565
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 12: in terms of arm?

1566
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 4: Strength?

1567
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 15: No DID i know.

1568
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 12: So Shadoor sanders path to success in THE nfl as

1569
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 12: a pocket passer is going to be playing on time

1570
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 12: and playing in an offense that sort of affords receivers

1571
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 12: or requires receivers to be where they're supposed to be

1572
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,600
Speaker 12: at the time they are supposed to be. THERE i

1573
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 12: can see that path working For Shador. Sanders he has

1574
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 12: been my quarterback too throughout the. Process i've got him

1575
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 12: as the sixteenth player overall on my big, board so you, know,

1576
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 12: personally i'd be more comfortable with that player maybe around

1577
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 12: the middle of the first. Round but we've all also

1578
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 12: been around long enough to know that there is a quarterback.

1579
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 12: Tax that kind of throws your overall grades out the.

1580
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 12: Board if you love the player enough to take him

1581
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 12: at sixteen and you're picking at, two then you probably

1582
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 12: should consider taking him at number two, overall because they

1583
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 12: likely won't be there at pick thirty.

1584
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 3: Three here's WHERE i Question. Field when you take a

1585
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 3: look at all these, quarterbacks is there a bigger gap

1586
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 3: between one and two or is there a bigger gap

1587
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 3: between two and.

1588
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 12: THREE i think one and two is the biggest, gap

1589
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 12: BECAUSE i will say, this it only takes one team

1590
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 12: to determine the order of.

1591
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 15: Quarterbacks, two, three and.

1592
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 12: Four but WHILE i think Shid Or sanders is gonna

1593
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 12: be the second quarterback, Taken i'm not totally convinced that

1594
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 12: is the. CASE i wouldn't be stunned If Jackson dart

1595
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 12: ends up being the second quarterback taken somewhere in the first.

1596
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 12: ROUND i don't know, that but again we'll see in

1597
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 12: just over two weeks from right. Now Kam ward has

1598
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 12: been has become solidified AS qb one for The, titans

1599
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 12: AND i would say, THIS i can't pull, everybody But

1600
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 12: i've asked almost every evaluator That i've spent time talking

1601
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 12: about the draft with over the past seven or eight.

1602
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,839
Speaker 12: Months what's your view at the top of the quarterback?

1603
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 12: Class and it's been hard to find many dissenters from

1604
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 12: Cam ward as quarterback. One does that mean the others

1605
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 12: aren't capable of becoming really good?

1606
01:20:58,280 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 15: Players?

1607
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 12: NO i mean last year at this, time many of

1608
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 12: the prominent voices Believe Caleb williams was quarterback, one but

1609
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 12: also viewed that also Viewed Jaden daniels As drake may

1610
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 12: and as the kind of guys that you could win

1611
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 12: a lot of games. With and one year, in you,

1612
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 12: know if we were to redo it all all, Again

1613
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 12: Jaden daniels probably goes number one. Overall, now it's kind

1614
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 12: of silly to bother redoing drafts just one year after.

1615
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 12: THEM a lot of these guys deserve plenty. More grayson

1616
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 12: is afforded through just one. Season BUT i do feel

1617
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 12: as though it's one, gap two three four kind maybe

1618
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 12: even two three kind of in a let's have a

1619
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 12: thoughtful conversation about why each player could be the best

1620
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 12: of this.

1621
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 14: Group talking To Field yates, here it's fascinating BECAUSE i

1622
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 14: was talking to ONE nfl assistant coach over the weekend.

1623
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,799
Speaker 9: On the defensive side of the, ball scouting defensive.

1624
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 14: Players but happened to turn on some Cam ward tape

1625
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 14: looking at defensive guys and he, Said, hey the guy's.

1626
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 14: Good but, LIKE i don't See Jaden. DANIELS i, Question,

1627
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 14: look he has athletic, Abilities certainly he doesn't have this

1628
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 14: game the same, escapability the same utility in the run

1629
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 14: game That Jayden daniels had last. Year but that is

1630
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 14: the bar now because you have the second overall pick

1631
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 14: in the year before, that with the second overall picked

1632
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 14: at In houston AND. Cj stroud where those guys come

1633
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 14: in and they are franchised. Changers AND i keep telling,

1634
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 14: people AND i Know, field you know this that just

1635
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 14: because you take a quarterback at two doesn't mean he's

1636
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 14: a guy who should be the second overall pick if

1637
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 14: you're merely drafting for need here after the pro, day

1638
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 14: because your last mock was before The pro. Day your

1639
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 14: mock Had shador at, Three Jackson dart at twenty. One

1640
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 14: but you just hinted there you Think dart may go Before.

1641
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 14: Shador do you see A shador fall?

1642
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 12: COMING i think it's LIKE i would, SAY i still

1643
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 12: think it's like eighty percent Likely shador is quarterback, two

1644
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 12: But i've given myself like some wiggle room to think.

1645
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:53,719
Speaker 15: That Jackson dart could be quarterback. TWO a fall sort.

1646
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 12: OF i think if you told me to make a

1647
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 12: pick right, now top of my, head IF i were

1648
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 12: to read you a mock draft off top of my,

1649
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 12: HEAD i Think i'd Have shador going twenty one To,

1650
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 12: pittsburgh which is a big ball for number, three but

1651
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 12: the most logical next suitors For shador after The giants at.

1652
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 12: THREE i, mean The saints would be the most obvious,

1653
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 12: one AND i haven't gotten the impression that The saints

1654
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 12: are as enamored With. Shador sanders Now Deion sanders basically

1655
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 12: told us that he likes the colors black and gold

1656
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 12: and Wearing colorado black and gold while saying that so

1657
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 12: maybe he, thinks or maybe he, knows The saints are

1658
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 12: preparing to take him at number. NINE i haven't gotten

1659
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 12: quite that same strong, sense but he would know better THAN.

1660
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 14: I All, right if don't want to get To Travis

1661
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 14: hunter real quick again talking To Field, yates who is

1662
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 14: In boulder Last, FRIDAY i want to pull up the

1663
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 14: quote because when you were on With Lewis, rittick, afterwards you, said,

1664
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 14: quote moves like any other moves like any other Athlete

1665
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 14: i've ever seen About Travis. Hunter The pro day looked

1666
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 14: that good in person as it looked to us ON.

1667
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 9: Tv For Travis.

1668
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 15: Hunter it really.

1669
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,799
Speaker 12: Did and you, KNOW i mentioned earlier HOW i wanted

1670
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 12: The Pro day for shudor standers to look about LIKE

1671
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,719
Speaker 12: i expected it to look going into it With Travis,

1672
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 12: hunter BECAUSE i already had him as the number one

1673
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 12: player on my. BOARD i said to, Myself i'm okay

1674
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 12: with being blown away even more THAN i already was

1675
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 12: with the. Player And i've used this analogy, before but you,

1676
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 12: know sitting there watching people from various organizations hone in

1677
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 12: On Travis, hunter it looked like an adoring parent on

1678
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 12: the sideline of one of their kids', games just like you,

1679
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 12: know in awe of what they were accomplishing in that,

1680
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 12: moment even Though Travis hunter, was you, know in just

1681
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 12: cleats and THE t shirt and, shorts but such a

1682
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 12: very a natural, mover so sudden as, WELL i mean

1683
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 12: effortless his.

1684
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 15: Feet the foot quickness is off the.

1685
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 12: Charts he went no gloves for the, workout WHICH i

1686
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 12: think there's a requirement you gotta wear gloves in THE,

1687
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 12: nfl but how many wideouts are going no gloves in today's.

1688
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 12: League i'm Sure travis will wear gloves like he did

1689
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 12: during his college. Career but it was just a testament

1690
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 12: to how natural the hands catcher he is as.

1691
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 15: Well the ball rarely.

1692
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 12: At the, ground that didn't during the workout when the

1693
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 12: ball was intended For Travis hunter and he had a

1694
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,560
Speaker 12: chance to catch. It so just such a natural, playmaker

1695
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 12: unlike really any THAT i can. Recall and you, know

1696
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 12: mel Kiper jingior has been doing this for forty seven years.

1697
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 12: Now he said That Travis hunter is his favorite player

1698
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 12: to study in that. Time so that's just an example

1699
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 12: of the kind of upside you might get if you

1700
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 12: Bring Travis hunter.

1701
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 3: Aboard would you go more plays on offense or more

1702
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,919
Speaker 3: plays on? Defense it's probably a LITTLE nfl team.

1703
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 12: A little bit team, dependent, Right but two things, Here

1704
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 12: So i'll get to the brown side of it in a.

1705
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 12: Moment but the feedback That i've gotten from teams AND

1706
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 12: i really got during my time At colorado asking About

1707
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 12: Travis hunter, was you, KNOW i understand why people want

1708
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 12: to hatch the plan for what it's going to look

1709
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 12: like With, travis we're more focused in on like this

1710
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 12: guy's just so unusual and so incredible that.

1711
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 15: We'll just figure it.

1712
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 12: Out he's too good at both. SPOTS i think that

1713
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 12: he won't play on both sides of the. Ball but

1714
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 12: maybe we get in there and we're telling, ourselves, yeah you,

1715
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 12: know thirty snaps the game on both sides of the.

1716
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 12: Ball next thing you, know, he's you know, whatever a

1717
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 12: top ten wide receiver as a, rookie and he's made

1718
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 12: three game changing interceptions for.

1719
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,759
Speaker 15: Us like he's just that unique of a prospect where he's.

1720
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 12: Not going to be put into a box for The,

1721
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 12: browns you, know just right now they had to roll

1722
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 12: out the football and play. TOMORROW i think probably has

1723
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 12: more impact as a wide receiver because Beyond, Jerry judy

1724
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 12: is still looking for a lot of answers. There BUT

1725
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 12: i still think there's a chance that if they play.

1726
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:31,839
Speaker 12: Tomorrow you, Know Jim schwartz is arguing With Tommy reese,

1727
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 12: like hol, ON i get him, Now like give me

1728
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 12: twenty snaps, now BECAUSE i do think he's going to

1729
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 12: end up having a meaningful impact on both sides of the.

1730
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 9: Ball AND i think a couple of weeks a couple

1731
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 9: of months.

1732
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,799
Speaker 14: AGO i, mean this pre draft process has been dragging

1733
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 14: on a couple of months. Ago FIELD i, heard, WELL

1734
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:50,679
Speaker 14: i don't know the guy play corner at one hundred

1735
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 14: and seventy five pounds in this league, consistently even though

1736
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 14: Like Ryan clark this, morning your colleague said he's A

1737
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 14: hall Of fame talent on the defensive side of the,

1738
01:26:57,960 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 14: ball which is.

1739
01:26:58,479 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 9: Saying saying a lot.

1740
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 14: Is but he looked more rocked Up, friday didn't HE

1741
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 14: i don't, like what did he put on ten?

1742
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 9: Pounds did anyone ask he was.

1743
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 12: One eighty seven at THE. Combinx he's clearly been spending

1744
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 12: some time in the weight. Room AND i would just,

1745
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 12: say you, know last, year there's a big conversation About

1746
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 12: Jaden daniels in the frame that he had and whether

1747
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 12: he was just you, know one big hit waiting to

1748
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 12: happen away from you, know a big significant. Injury, Well

1749
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 12: jaden got rocked last year and That carolina game left

1750
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 12: early in the game that they were up so big

1751
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 12: that they just said let's just think about next. Week

1752
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 12: and then remember he was like not going to play

1753
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 12: against The bears in the one versus two games and

1754
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 12: then played and of course through a Hail mary at

1755
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 12: the end of the game to win that. Game you,

1756
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 12: know thinking back to last, year the people WITH lsu

1757
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 12: really confident in the body type Of Jaden. Daniels he

1758
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 12: has this almost like elasticity to him that he can

1759
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 12: handle and absorb much more contact than a typical two

1760
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 12: hundred and six pound quarterback. COULD i Think travis kind

1761
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 12: of fits into that mold as. Well these slender looking

1762
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:00,759
Speaker 12: wide receivers who, yes they they're not built like Heinz

1763
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 12: ward out, there but they are so tough and understand

1764
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 12: how to avoid contact so well that they probably miss

1765
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 12: out on some of those big hits more than the

1766
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 12: typical wide receiver.

1767
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 3: Does when you take a look at some of the

1768
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 3: other draft positions in this, one obviously running back comes to.

1769
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 3: Mind tight end as. Well those are two positions of

1770
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 3: need for this football. Team obviously we could take a.

1771
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 3: Look it's probably day, two even not day, three but

1772
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 3: some names maybe that stand out for The Cleveland, browns

1773
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 3: both at the tight end position at the running back

1774
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 3: room that could be.

1775
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,719
Speaker 12: Available, yeah running backs had a lot of options, here

1776
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 12: so day TWO i Think omar And hampton slides into

1777
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 12: round one From North. Carolina mel much more optimistic THAN

1778
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 12: i am that he's going to be maybe a top twelve.

1779
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 12: PICK i think it's maybe more like late first For

1780
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 12: mario And. Hampton but if he's there at thirty, three

1781
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 12: that'd be an interesting name for. Sure excuse. Me Caleb

1782
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 12: johnson From iowa probably late, two early. Three obviously it

1783
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 12: has to be early three for The browns if they

1784
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 12: stand pat at that.

1785
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:04,640
Speaker 15: Pick ran a four to five seven forty at the.

1786
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 12: Combine but, man this guy was a great player At

1787
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 12: iowa during his last, season a factor in the passing

1788
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 12: game as. Well On day, three there's kind of all

1789
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 12: kinds of, names and it's really, like what do you

1790
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 12: want in your? Back If Nick chubb remains off the

1791
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 12: roster and you're saying to, yourself we need some power

1792
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 12: from our. Back we needs a guy, who you, know

1793
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 12: we can hand the football off in some Nasty lake

1794
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 12: effect weather in Late december and just let, him you,

1795
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 12: know chew up twenty. Carries Ali gordon From Oklahoma state

1796
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 12: two years ago was. Unbelievable this year really fell. Off

1797
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 12: if you're looking for the opposite of, that a guy

1798
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 12: who you might only want seven to ten touches per,

1799
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 12: game but those seven to ten touches might average ten

1800
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 12: yards of. Pop Jaden blue From texas comes to mind for,

1801
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 12: me really really impactful player for them last. Year has

1802
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 12: to be better in the ball security department from tight,

1803
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 12: end a lot of options, THERE i do think in round,

1804
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 12: two you, Know Elijah royo From.

1805
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 15: Miami miami tight.

1806
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:00,080
Speaker 12: Ends have Treated cleveland relatively well of, lates with of

1807
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 12: course the Chief david And joku. There Mason, taylor the

1808
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 12: son Of Jason, Taylor, uh of, course played his college

1809
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 12: ball in the great state Of, ohio so perhaps there's

1810
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 12: some you, know some serendipity. There and then going into day,

1811
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 12: Three Luke lache From, Iowa Mitchell evans From Notre. Dame,

1812
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 12: like there are a lot of guys at that spot

1813
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 12: compared to other classes where maybe the top of the

1814
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 12: draft represents like four or five clear starting tight, ends

1815
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 12: but the second tier of tight ends in this class

1816
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 12: can be very serviceable tight end, twos which is what

1817
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 12: The browns, need right they Have david And joku to

1818
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 12: be the focal point of their tight end.

1819
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:36,559
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