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Speaker 1: Welcome to your money making conversation. I'm your host, Rashean McDonald.

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Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and

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Speaker 1: it now you can be motivated by their success because

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Speaker 1: Now you have to start planning your story and your goals,

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Speaker 1: and you're not gonna get there through your committed effort.

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Speaker 1: My interviews that I bring on money Making Conversations or

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Speaker 1: next guest is Betty Smith. She is an author, pop

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Speaker 1: culture deficionado, fashion expert, and host of be Relations on

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Speaker 1: Sirius XM Radio. Andy Beby just released our first book,

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Speaker 1: be Relations, Relations of her memoir about learning to live

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Speaker 1: a big, authentic and unapologetic life and how you can

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Speaker 1: do it too once in a while. It's successful luxurally

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Speaker 1: fashioning publication executive at Rolling Stone and Vibe magazine. She

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Speaker 1: because I did some shifting and we're gonna discuss because

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Speaker 1: a lot of things in her book I related to

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Speaker 1: and she shifted her professional goals over a decade ago

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Speaker 1: served as a moderator on Bravo TVs revolutionary talk show

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Speaker 1: Fashion Queens, and with a co host in the nationally

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Speaker 1: syndicated entertainment news program Page six TV. Please Working the

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Speaker 1: the last time, Mrs Bevy Smith, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I love, my love, I'm so happy to be here

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Speaker 1: with you. Well, I you know, I we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: the book. But it's a lot going on in your life,

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Speaker 1: you know, And it's my design. I I took it

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Speaker 1: with my reading from the book that every move you

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Speaker 1: happened because you started out. You planned it and and

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Speaker 1: and and it worked to your favor. And that's what

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Speaker 1: the book really is about planning your destiny and choosing

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Speaker 1: your path correct. It is it is. You know. I'm

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Speaker 1: from Harlem, and so a lot of times and people

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Speaker 1: hear my story they say, oh my gosh, you're such

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Speaker 1: I'm a strategist. Because a hustler will do anything to

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Speaker 1: make their money, you know. The in goal for them

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Speaker 1: is always about the green the money, And for me,

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Speaker 1: it's always about satisfaction, finding my work. Um. And I'm

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Speaker 1: also not going to take things that don't resonate with me.

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Speaker 1: I've been offered a myriad of time to be a

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Speaker 1: and I've always said no because I just doesn't fit in. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do believe that's important. It's imperative to have a

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Speaker 1: But while at the same time being open to the journey.

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Speaker 1: about your book bere Relations, and you have relations in

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Speaker 1: And that's what I took away from the book. And

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Speaker 1: it's talks about your life from childhood. It talks about

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Speaker 1: then and I can I can respect. That's why I

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Speaker 1: love this book. Okay, any book that quotes lyrics from

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Speaker 1: My book is literally my book Revelations, Lessons from my Mother,

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Speaker 1: I had an opportunity to go to Essence magazine, the

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Speaker 1: you know what, I think there's a position here for you.

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Speaker 1: Go and meet with my my advertising team. And when

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Speaker 1: I met with them, I realized that everyone was in

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Speaker 1: like really businesswomen's suits, you know, like everyone had like,

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Speaker 1: you know, collars up to here they were wearing suits.

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Speaker 1: They weren't wearing that. You know that their makeup was

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Speaker 1: very subdued and understated, and no, I was like, whoa, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just left the white and the old white environed

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Speaker 1: declined that that author. And then a couple of months

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Speaker 1: later I got an offer to be at Vibe magazine.

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Speaker 1: And when I walked and by, I said, oh, this

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Speaker 1: is my jam right here. I see. I'm I'm the

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Speaker 1: first generation of hip hop and I'm going raised in

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Speaker 1: New York. So hip hop is my thing. And in

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Speaker 1: the book, as you know what, Sean, I talked about

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Speaker 1: being big Bet from Uptown, friends of Tupac and Biggie

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Speaker 1: on the scene, and so hip hop is my natural habitat.

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Speaker 1: And so when I'm walking to Vibe, they get my

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Speaker 1: flag girl look, they get my big errands, they get

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Speaker 1: that I'm showing some cleavage and I'm still gonna take

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Speaker 1: care of business, you know what I mean. So it

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Speaker 1: was a really good fit. So sometimes you know, you

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Speaker 1: have to look at a corporate culture and know whether

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Speaker 1: not it's worth it to you to contort yourself and

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Speaker 1: to do things that don't feel necessarily natural to you.

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Speaker 1: Is it worth it? When I went to rolling Stone,

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Speaker 1: totally different corporate culture again, right back into an all

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Speaker 1: white situation. But I went up in rolling Stone was

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Speaker 1: a real reason, as you know what shann I talked about.

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Speaker 1: I went to Rolling Stone knowing that I was gonna

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Speaker 1: quit as soon as I got my bonus shot. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: as soon as they gave me my bonus chut, I

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Speaker 1: was gonna be like child for now. But you know

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Speaker 1: the thing about it, in that moment that if you

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Speaker 1: You was using roller Stones as a stepping stone, and

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Speaker 1: then Vibe said, uh, you know, the Viber's first, and

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Speaker 1: then it was rolling right, it was Vibe. I apologize

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Speaker 1: it was rolling Stone because you went to roller Stone,

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Speaker 1: picked up an offer, and then you took it back

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Speaker 1: over the Vibe and the Vibe said, oh wow, good luck,

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Speaker 1: good luck, good luck, and so and so and you

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Speaker 1: were ready for that. You you were caught off guard,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't slow down your momentum. And so that's

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Speaker 1: why I just loved the whole process is that do

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Speaker 1: allow people to control your destiny. Write your own story.

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Speaker 1: And you continually write your own story. And I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you one thing, Bevy, because I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: Bevy Smith, author a tremendous book that I want to

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Speaker 1: recommend to everybody called bever Relations as Herman Wall by

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Speaker 1: learning to live a big, authentic and unapolotic life and

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Speaker 1: how you can't too. One of the most fulfilling speaking

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Speaker 1: events was your tour of HBCUs. Uh talked about HBCUs.

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Speaker 1: I did not attend one, but I'm a big proponent.

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Speaker 1: I promoted, I amplify HBCUs Equal Black Excellence. Tell us

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Speaker 1: about how impactful that tour was that your girlfriend from

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Speaker 1: Boost took you up with as the sponsor HBCU college tour. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I also went to a p W I

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Speaker 1: you know, I went to New York University, where I

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Speaker 1: did not graduate because I was already in my career.

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Speaker 1: And so my boss was like, well, you can actually

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Speaker 1: teach the force. And now you're miss missing out on

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Speaker 1: big presentations and meetings. You know, the rubbie hit the road.

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Speaker 1: So I actually left UM, but probably only a year

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Speaker 1: left to get my degree. But it didn't stop me.

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Speaker 1: But I always tell people it's one thing to drop

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Speaker 1: out of a prestigious school like n y U and

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Speaker 1: another thing to drop out of a you know, a

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Speaker 1: school the Trump University. Let's put it that. So, UM,

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Speaker 1: I like you. I'm a very big fan of HBCUs.

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Speaker 1: And so when I had the opportunity to go and

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Speaker 1: really an amazing moment for me because it was my

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Speaker 1: first ever speaking engagement UM. And so I learned the

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Speaker 1: lat I was on the panel with people who did

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Speaker 1: that they had very wrote, very scripted kind of things

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Speaker 1: the same line. So from Morehouse to Howard, from you

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Speaker 1: know fam you too, you know uh Morris Brown, they

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Speaker 1: realized that they were giving people are highlights real and

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Speaker 1: I said, oh yeah, that's not going to help the kids,

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Speaker 1: they expect and how can they how can they navigate

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Speaker 1: these issues? And so that's when I decided to come

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Speaker 1: really clean. I started telling people about my most authentic self.

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Speaker 1: And then the book I talk about, you know, finding

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Speaker 1: out three things, and that's how you develop your own

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Speaker 1: personal brand. Who are you at your core? How are

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Speaker 1: you being perceived? How would you like to be perceived?

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Speaker 1: If you can answer those three questions really honestly, And

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Speaker 1: that's where the introspective work comes in. That if you

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Speaker 1: can answer those questions, you can develop a personal brand.

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Speaker 1: And once you develop your personal brand, I have a

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Speaker 1: chap to call brand You, and that talks about how

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Speaker 1: you can maximize and actually sell people into your personal brand,

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Speaker 1: have them buy into it. And that's what I was

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Speaker 1: able to do on that tour. But I gotta tell

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Speaker 1: you you know which, y'all. Um. As I've mentioned several

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Speaker 1: times just in this interview, I'm from Harlem, and when

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Speaker 1: I was in these all white environments, especially when I

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Speaker 1: um people were hard fied that I lived in home,

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Speaker 1: and they would say things like are you saved? Don't

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Speaker 1: you want to move? And things like that. And when

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Speaker 1: I would go over to Europe, I would always tell

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Speaker 1: people I was from Harlem versus saying I'm from Manhattan.

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Speaker 1: We call him as a neighborhood in Manhattan. So I

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Speaker 1: could have easily said I'm from Manhattan and that that

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Speaker 1: means everything you know. Manhattan is what you see when

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Speaker 1: you think of New York City. You really only think

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Speaker 1: of Manhattan and now Brooklyn. But Willie Manhattan, right, And

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Speaker 1: so I could have said that, but I chose to

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Speaker 1: always lead with Harman. And can I just tell you something,

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Speaker 1: from being authentic about my brand and about who I

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Speaker 1: am and where I'm from, I have made so much

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Speaker 1: money from Harlem from being from Harlem, because now all

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Speaker 1: these big brands come into Harlem and they want an

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Speaker 1: authentic and they want someone who has recognized, recognizable from

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Speaker 1: a national point of view, or someone who is very

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Speaker 1: locally connected, and there I am. So I learned doing

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Speaker 1: that on that HBCU tour. I learned to be my

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Speaker 1: most authentic self and not to hide these things. That's

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Speaker 1: even the reason why I put in the book that

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Speaker 1: to put that in there, you know. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: the authenticity is what wins for me. Well, I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to Bettie Smith. She's she's been booked, she's blessed, and

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Speaker 1: she's busty, but more callantly, she has a fantastic book

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Speaker 1: called Be Relations. You can hear her own serious ex

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Speaker 1: Relations of radio Andy Baby Smith. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you for coming on Money Making Conversations. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: my love. It's been a droid. It's been really great

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Speaker 1: chatting with you, and I'm so happy that we finally

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Speaker 1: so it's my responsibility to promote your book and getting

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Speaker 1: into the hands as many people as possible. Again, thank

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Speaker 1: you for coming on Money Making Conversations. Ms Bevy Smith.

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Speaker 1: whose wisdom is assertive, and who is genuine in their spirit.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making Conversations with your host. Rashan

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Speaker 1: McDonald my Next Year is an industry decision maker. He's

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur and his celebrity is a celebrity in his

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Speaker 1: industry or Luen Joe Shalla. He was born and raised

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Speaker 1: in West Africa. Growing up, he shared an eight by

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Speaker 1: ten room with his mother and seven siblings. Now is

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Speaker 1: the founder of CEO of He proceed proceeds from the

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Speaker 1: Ala Field beauty and grooming products are returned to communities

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Speaker 1: in West Africa defined community empowerment and gender equality initiatives

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Speaker 1: such as maternal healthcare, education, reforestation and regenderative regendative agriculture.

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Speaker 1: We were discussing overcoming the arts, something I'm vary for

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Speaker 1: me with in America, so it happens everywhere. Stereotyping and

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00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: business something that we deal with in America as well,

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Speaker 1: and his female centric business model, please working to money

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Speaker 1: main conversations, Well win, Joe, Charlotte, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's get the name right there. I did. I

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Speaker 1: come close Charlotte and I got Charlotte both sixties, so

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Speaker 1: you got passing. Great? Thank you, my brother, I know

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Speaker 1: got Charlotte right, I know I got that. So I

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Speaker 1: think I want to, uh if you've been practiced off

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Speaker 1: for a little while, absolutely so, so tell me man,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know we always deal with stereotypes, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, since I've been uh in this business, you know,

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Speaker 1: because I want to start to the truth, to talk

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Speaker 1: to the journey, because you've had the battle stereotypes. You know.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of people say negative things about

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Speaker 1: people from Africa, UH, scam artists. Uh, you know, shouldn't

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Speaker 1: trust them, always got some up their sleeve. And then

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Speaker 1: but you want to be a businessman, and so you're

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Speaker 1: trying to convince the same people who are these stereotypes.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about white people. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about people in my color had the same stereotype. How

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Speaker 1: did you start breaking down those walls before people understood

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Speaker 1: your story? You know, thank you? The walls is you

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Speaker 1: have to have a understanding that walls six time to break. However,

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Speaker 1: you cannot let anybody uh guard your wall, and you

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Speaker 1: have to take those down immediately. I think for me

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Speaker 1: it was being very clear on what has been to offer.

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Speaker 1: And what I mean is that when I when we

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Speaker 1: first started, when I approached retailers, I was coming from

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Speaker 1: a place of these what you need. It's not about

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Speaker 1: what Africa needs, These are what America needs. And that's

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Speaker 1: a very different approach because for for for a long

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Speaker 1: time with view as beggars and needing as opposed to

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Speaker 1: be viewed as those that can contribute to overall humanity

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Speaker 1: around the world from civilizations, uh and even to today.

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Speaker 1: So that that fundamental that's important because it's psychological. When

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Speaker 1: you're stay psychologically understand what you're offering to the world

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Speaker 1: and what you can offer the America, I think people

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Speaker 1: pay attention. Uh. And also when you're very clear what

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Speaker 1: you can engage your own community with, right, because you're

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Speaker 1: facing a community here in America, but how do you

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Speaker 1: engage your own community. One of those two things are

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Speaker 1: very clear, I think it becomes a little bit easier

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Speaker 1: to break those walls. But it was interesting when you

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Speaker 1: look at my life, you know, I've been A've been

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Speaker 1: a Negro, I've been recognized as a black person and

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Speaker 1: then an African American, and so so that's the name

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Speaker 1: journey that I've been involved in. The African American ties

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Speaker 1: me back to where I've come from, which I feel

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Speaker 1: blessed to be able to have a place that I

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Speaker 1: came from. Because when you come over ownership and you're

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Speaker 1: in you're based on slavery, you gotta have a real route,

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Speaker 1: because slavery is not a route, It's not a base.

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Speaker 1: And and I have to say this, what impact do

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Speaker 1: you feel that they're having at that base? Because you

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Speaker 1: have a home, you know, you have a recognizable home,

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Speaker 1: talk to you know, the the basis is uh fundamental,

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Speaker 1: Uh because essentially, if you look at what I'm doing

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Speaker 1: is really shame the base of the world. Because I

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Speaker 1: have a base, I'm able to say, culturally, be is

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Speaker 1: what we have to offer, and cultually these a knowledge

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Speaker 1: that we have and by sharing that with you, you

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Speaker 1: can be healthier. So I think it is a multi

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Speaker 1: magnitude level when you do have a base, and and

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Speaker 1: that's something I'm quite grateful for to have that base.

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Speaker 1: Beauty and grooming you can't go wrong with that. You know,

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Speaker 1: everybody wants to look good, especially in the African American community. UM.

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Speaker 1: I have suc sisters, so I know a little bit

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Speaker 1: of thing about watching women look good and groom themselves

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Speaker 1: on the regular basis. I used to watch my mom

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Speaker 1: in the kitchen pull out that hot iron and I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it was I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: was a pain uh walk of pain for my sisters,

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Speaker 1: but guess what they experienced. It put that gye in

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Speaker 1: the hair and burned half the hair out. And you know,

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Speaker 1: and so but that was the price that black women

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Speaker 1: paid to look good. And then you come along with

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Speaker 1: products that I like to say female friendly from a

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Speaker 1: stand up, how you care for one another? What led

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Speaker 1: you down that path of beauty and grooming? It was

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Speaker 1: is in the matter of of a choice. And you know,

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Speaker 1: this is really what it's important to understand about love.

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Speaker 1: Yet they needs a vehicle for equality, is a vehicle

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Speaker 1: for justice. And so when you are set up your

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Speaker 1: life to fight for equology, you have to use the

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Speaker 1: tools that you have and that can give you the

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Speaker 1: maximum return in these case. For for me is understanding

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Speaker 1: that we have shared butter and we don't how to

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Speaker 1: make share about that and share butter is used in

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Speaker 1: the personal care. So it was, it was it was

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Speaker 1: a logical path to take. Now I love for you.

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Speaker 1: What is shape butter? I'm gonna ask you that I

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Speaker 1: see a lot and I aver there in my house.

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Speaker 1: What where did they come from? And who you know?

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Speaker 1: What magic rock did? It? Did somebody discovered? Because shape

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Speaker 1: butter is taking over the world. Man, Come on, y'all

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Speaker 1: talk to me brother, yes, yes, yes, well you know

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Speaker 1: the uh here's the thing, the the ship butter. As

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Speaker 1: as we know, we need to go back to share treats,

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Speaker 1: right those indigenous trees that can only be found in

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Speaker 1: the savanna of West Africa and as the time can remember,

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Speaker 1: for tens of thousands of years, that's what the people

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Speaker 1: of West Africa use either for cooking, for the hair,

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Speaker 1: for the body, you name it. So this is really

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Speaker 1: entertwined with our way of presenting beduty and and culture.

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Speaker 1: But you know the share butter that you do see

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Speaker 1: around the world today, as we know, African resources don't

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Speaker 1: benefit Africa or African descent. So yes, share but as

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Speaker 1: everywhere in the world. But what we're trying to do

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Speaker 1: is to engage with the communities in the way that

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Speaker 1: it provided in direct economic benefits and obviously, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: as we started to contribute back to the community. But

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Speaker 1: what is the shap butter itself in this case, I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about unrefined ship But because the majority

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Speaker 1: of the share butters uh, they see the marketplace go

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Speaker 1: to a refined process that does not have all the

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Speaker 1: healing property that should so everybody it is is a

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Speaker 1: fact essentially, uh from Mascha Tree. And it really is

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Speaker 1: a very unique type of five because see, when you

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Speaker 1: have you exposed to harsh environment or direct sunlight, you

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Speaker 1: need to be able to protect the layers of your skin.

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Speaker 1: And Share but is known throughout history to be one

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Speaker 1: of those protectors. Now, the reason I bring that up

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00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: because you know, we see something that you know, start

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Speaker 1: to dominate the store, start to dominate the beauty line,

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Speaker 1: the talk of conversation, just like black soap, it's a

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Speaker 1: dominant force. And grooming. Now, how did these two become

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Speaker 1: such a major player or a game changing I like,

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Speaker 1: let's use the word game changer beauty and grooming not

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Speaker 1: only for women but also for me because I used

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Speaker 1: the black soap. Yes, you know I I think it

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Speaker 1: really goes back to the bigger change that's happened around

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Speaker 1: around us in the world. Uh. And here we're talking

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Speaker 1: about America. We're talking about health. But if you look

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Speaker 1: the revolution of organic movement uh and people wanting healthy product.

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Speaker 1: I really think it's correlate any linked to these and

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Speaker 1: when you see there are very million ingredients in the

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Speaker 1: world like you share but that have all the ars

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Speaker 1: healing properties and just in one thing that could do

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Speaker 1: all these different things that's come from ultra natural source

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Speaker 1: and the entries a wild It can't be more natural

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Speaker 1: than that. You don't have to ferilize, you, you're not

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Speaker 1: to bother them, you don't have to put the chemicals

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Speaker 1: on them. So I think it's really correlated to the

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Speaker 1: fact that the people around the world today want to

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Speaker 1: be have healthier options and and then it happened that

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Speaker 1: they share But is of a of a natural source

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Speaker 1: is giving that attention. But I do think though, uh

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Speaker 1: whild we see a lots of ship but the and

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Speaker 1: and is in the dominant places. We really should be

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Speaker 1: having the conversation how these fundamental African is ingredients is

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Speaker 1: empowering the people of Africa African descent. Now, with that

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Speaker 1: being said, because part of your I guess a narrative

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Speaker 1: or initiatives of your company mandate is giving back. It's

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Speaker 1: about the reforestation, talking about maternal healthcare, which we all

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Speaker 1: know even in America that's a major need. So I

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Speaker 1: want to go to each one of them separately so

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Speaker 1: we can discuss and have an extended conversation. I want

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Speaker 1: to blow up because let's talk about first, which I

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Speaker 1: think is important is maternal healthcare because a lot of

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Speaker 1: people take for granted, you know, could they see a

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Speaker 1: child being born, but a lot of children aren't brought,

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Speaker 1: don't go for a term, and and the situation leads

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Speaker 1: to a lot of sadness and also conlude to suicides

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Speaker 1: depending on that situation. So let's talk about the maternal

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Speaker 1: healthcare and your company's initiative, especial when it comes to

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Speaker 1: ginger equality, gender equality. Thank you. I mean life in

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Speaker 1: general requires us to be devoted to day for the

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Speaker 1: well being of being a child to this world. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And you know when we started the conversation and we

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Speaker 1: talked about the wing which I was brought up with

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Speaker 1: se seven sibling in a very small space. When you

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Speaker 1: grew up in that poverty, what you witness this woman

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Speaker 1: dying given birth, I lost systems myself. But when they're

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Speaker 1: trying to bring life to this earth, so it's something

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Speaker 1: that's really personal to me and become an adult and

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Speaker 1: having a laugh, Yeah, it just makes sense from my

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Speaker 1: heart that laugh here needs to be devoted in contributing

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Speaker 1: to reducing the unnecessary death of a woman by trying

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Speaker 1: to bring life. But there's something more even more fundamental

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Speaker 1: or equally important. That has to do with a canal mix. Right.

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Speaker 1: We when we talk about gender quality, I'm really talk

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Speaker 1: about economic quality for our women. And what that means

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Speaker 1: to me is that if we do not invest in

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Speaker 1: maternal health and we lose the mothers, what happened is

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Speaker 1: that the child, the older child is likely to drop

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Speaker 1: our school, the young girls likely to drop our school.

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Speaker 1: So for and and when we continue to have just

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Speaker 1: a high drop our rate, the cycle of poverty never breaks, right,

841
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: and the poverty to continue. The more the poverty to continue,

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00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: the more inequality or gender card to continue. So for me,

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00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: in order to break the cycle, we need the modest

844
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Speaker 1: to be alive so that the children can continue to

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Speaker 1: go to school. So to answer that question, one is

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Speaker 1: just a moral thing to do. One sixteen woman today

847
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Speaker 1: in Subian Africa would die trying to bring life to

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Speaker 1: the earth. And the second party is a part of

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Speaker 1: the long term um UH process of breaking psycho poverty

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Speaker 1: by investings so that our women can be that and

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Speaker 1: our children to going to school. Yeah, Mr Charlotte, the

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Speaker 1: reason I wanted to transition start with that because we

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Speaker 1: used the word consistent in your first conversation with maternal health.

854
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: There the word poverty, and poverty is always tied I

855
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: think a lot to education, and because if you don't

856
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: give a shot, you don't have a clear understanding of

857
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 1: the opportunity. And that's what education gives you. I would

858
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: tell people, you know, education is why you're not having

859
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: this conversation. You know, I come from the inner city.

860
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: I come from my father's truck driver, my third grade education,

861
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: my mom graduated high school, six sisters, two brothers, you know,

862
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: so all those elements without education means I may not

863
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: be here. So education saved me a foothold to be

864
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: able to have a conversation through opportunity, opportunity to give

865
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: me a chance to say goals. You said goals, then

866
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: you become a person who can commit it to an effort,

867
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: a plan of action. We're trying to get that. So

868
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: when I saw education, I really was excited because I went,

869
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: he gets it. It gets it because you can give

870
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: people the money to for food, you get people money

871
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: for housing. But if you don't really understand that education

872
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: can If you give it to education, they can buy

873
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: their food, they can supply their own housing, and so

874
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: so that's it. Is a dignity right that nobody wants

875
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: to hand out right. Uh, But but we can give

876
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: a hand to each other and an education. Uh. Portunity

877
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 1: is a form of giving hands so that a person

878
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: can stand. And I think dignity is very important as

879
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: a human being. How we view ourselves and I will

880
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: conduct ourselves and I would go through life. I'm gonna

881
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: ask you this, sir. You know, stereotype could we started

882
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: out the beginning and just be on I spect probably

883
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: a month in Durban, South Africa, and Steve Harvey now

884
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: went over to the broadcast, and I swear to you

885
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: I didn't have a clue on where we could possibly

886
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: broadcast because in my mind, based on information has been

887
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: given me, there was not a modern city in Africa

888
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: period stereotypes And when I and and when I landed,

889
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: I was ashamed of my lack of education. I landed

890
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: in South Africa, saw these beautiful black people. Then we

891
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: drove down to Derban. It was it looked like I

892
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: was landing in Atlanta, Georgia. It was like I was

893
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: living in Atlanta, Georgia. But yes, you know, doesn't that

894
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: anger you? The stereotypes, the blind information that is being

895
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: distributed and I have to say propaganda, but clearly you

896
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: know it not it is more than the anger, because

897
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: what it does is that A doesn't allowed for the

898
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: world to to truly appreciate um who we are. And

899
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: I think it is by design. Is A is a

900
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: process that's not new to you is divide and conquer.

901
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: And you can divide when you can divide the mind

902
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: and pollute the mind, and then you can conquer the people. Uh.

903
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: And the conquering of the people today is not like

904
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: you have to miss up with them changing just about

905
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: their mind. And I think that what that also does

906
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: he continued to lead to these well of thinking resources

907
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: cheaply from Africa because well, they don't really need it.

908
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: We need it, so that I think there's there's a

909
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: reason behind It's not by accident. But when you understand

910
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: that and and and for me is to try to

911
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: break it, you start to talk about the wall. You

912
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: have to break them down. You have to engage directly, uh,

913
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: with the world. You have to engage directly to the

914
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: global market. And that's why you know, because I went

915
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: out always like to have honest conversations with my interviews

916
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: that I have because it's an education for me. And

917
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: I remember when I went down to Durban, you know,

918
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: I was down there, I found myself looking for property

919
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: to buy. I was so I loved so it never

920
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: and so and my wife said, calm down, calm down.

921
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: You don't know when you're gonna go back. You because

922
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, you know, it's like opening up

923
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: a gift, you know, and you don't know what's inside

924
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: the gift. When you pull it out, you go. You

925
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: want to keep looking aside for more of that gift.

926
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: And that was my experience. And so when I hear

927
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: things like reforestation, that means that you're concerned about you know,

928
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: how your country looks and how if you don't take

929
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: care of it, guess what it becomes a desert. And

930
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: so talk about that the article culture, the importance of that,

931
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: and because all this ties back to the bigger plan

932
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: of what you're doing with your brand, and I want

933
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: to support it. I want to promote it because of

934
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: the fact that it's about changing through education, changing and

935
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: removing a poverty culture from people, and also letting them

936
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: understand they gotta take care of where they live, they

937
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: gotta take care of your house. It's like if you

938
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: know what's saying, it's a child. If you go in

939
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: your house and you need the doors wide open, somebody

940
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: gonna come in and stay. It's just taken comself gonta.

941
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: And so the same thing in your country. You don't

942
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: take care of your country, You don't take care of

943
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: your forge, You don't replenish your the ground that you

944
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: want food to come out of, guess what it's going

945
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: to die. And that's that has to be a passion

946
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: for you. That's really emotionally leads you every day down

947
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: your path of what you want to do with your brain. Definitely,

948
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: you know the because in order to achieve these uh,

949
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: this mission uh and this really is a mission of

950
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: self respect and respect to people, you have to have

951
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 1: a comprehensive approach. You can't simply just do maternal care

952
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: or you can't simply build schools and not think about

953
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: your environment. But I think it really goes down to

954
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: you again about poverty right we today. When when I

955
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: first came to the States, people will say you come

956
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: from a dongle and and the fact that is that

957
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: we used to have a lot of trees, We used

958
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: to have a lots of jungles, but lots of it

959
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 1: have been mowed down. And what we do know now

960
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: is that when you cut it, you cut all those

961
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: trees down, then the top soil gets wash away with

962
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: what's called erosion. And when you have so much erosion,

963
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: you lose all the nutrients from the top soil. And

964
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: when you lose all the nutrient, the topsail gets wash away.

965
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: Increase in ability, inability to grow food, and when you

966
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: don't have food will happened at least to farm it.

967
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: And when you're hungry, you can't learn, you can't go

968
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: to school. Ok. So, the the the environment and planting trees,

969
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: while i've here, is fundamental way that we feel that

970
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: in nydirect way that leads to reduction of poverty. You know,

971
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,959
Speaker 1: it's really uh first, were hopefully enjoying the conversation here

972
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: because it's a it's about my view and my unique

973
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: experience of going to a country being called an African

974
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: American and being recognized as a leader in this country,

975
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: but also be after you acknowledge a hard level of ignorance.

976
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: And so you know, when you when you're trying to

977
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: get financing for your business, did you run it the

978
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: stereotypes there? Well, I think that's a common place, right,

979
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: which is unfortunate because people like us and yourself, you

980
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: when you grew up in the way we'll grow up.

981
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: You're not gonna go to diet your mom and say

982
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: can you give monthy started like you by the by

983
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: the minute that you can put your own belt on,

984
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: you have you're taking care of They died in the moment, right,

985
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: so you are on your own. And when you're on

986
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: your own and you can't give money from family, which

987
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: many people do when they start business. Uh and on

988
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: top of it, being a black man, uh so is

989
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: the mountains high? But again you can climbate. You have

990
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: to try, You have to, you have to give it

991
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: all you got. And we were turned down many times,

992
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: to the point where I scanned in the bank and

993
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: it's I won't go home. I was surprised. I wasn't arrested,

994
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 1: right that this I need to get this loan, and

995
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: I believe this loan will help American and it will

996
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: help my community, so I can start the social enterprise.

997
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: And you don't, you don't give up. But you know

998
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: what I also learned very quickly is that people in

999
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: America is not going to give you what you need,

1000
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: and we we did end up getting a small loan

1001
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: after so much perfect perseverance. But what I did to

1002
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: this day is to work around the clock. Let let

1003
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: my sweater become that money and generate the funds as

1004
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: well as we grow. But we all also know that

1005
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: without UH capital is difficult, difficult to grow at the

1006
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: way that you need to grow. Absolutely. You know. It's

1007
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: really interesting because I always tell people there are twenty

1008
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: four hours in the day. Learn to take advantage of

1009
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: each hour. And that seems to be the principle that

1010
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: you run your career. Because it was a question that

1011
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: was sitting over to me and says, what advice would

1012
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: you give someone wanting to pursue a career similar to yours?

1013
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: And I saw that converge. I said, there's nothing similar

1014
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: to yours. You know. You know, your philanthropers, your businessman,

1015
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: you're you care, you, you remember, you, you feel, you

1016
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,479
Speaker 1: feel pain, you know. And I say that. I feel

1017
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: like I say that because it's really interesting when people

1018
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: look at successful people and I can send you a

1019
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: successful person and and I'm quite blassed and grateful, you know,

1020
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: and and and in that blessing process, it lends itself

1021
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: to go, how can I do more? And you know

1022
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: you can do so much, you know what I'm saying.

1023
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: And and also when you fighting stereotypes, you fight ignorance,

1024
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: You fight impoverished conditions that you can't change, generational ignorance,

1025
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 1: generational poverty. You know, So when I hear that question,

1026
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: your career isn't similar because you're unique and unique the

1027
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: fact that you want to create change because a lot

1028
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: of people just walk away, they go, hey, man, that's

1029
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: why I used to live You know, I'm saying. You're

1030
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: not saying that. You're saying, Look, no, I used to

1031
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: live there, and I still go back there, and I

1032
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 1: want to build up. I want to grab as many

1033
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 1: as I can. You know that that old that old

1034
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: you said that painting where somebody leans down with their

1035
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: hands to pull another brother up? You know that ship? What? What?

1036
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: What what created that? Driving you like that? Sir M Charlotte?

1037
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: You know, I uh, I was thinking really come from

1038
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: my mother. She she was an indented servant in neighboring

1039
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: country and and she she lost both her her parents

1040
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: when she was still a baby. So she she she

1041
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: worked in exchange for food their whole life. And I

1042
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: end up having us and having it off us and

1043
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: never want to be along again. But one thing that

1044
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: she made sure that we know once is to is

1045
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: to work hard, but move all is to be humble

1046
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: and serving. She felt that was how she survived and

1047
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: that's how we need. Those are the manas that we

1048
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: need to engage with. Uh and and shows she also

1049
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: help us understand that justice even in our small community

1050
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: or village that I think for me, I very early on,

1051
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: I have come to somehow believe on on duties and

1052
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: more responsibility as an individual. Uh And And when you

1053
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: have a more responsibility, doctors drive because you've got to

1054
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: do something with that responsibility, and especially when it's moral. Wow,

1055
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, I know that. You know. We're just human, sir,

1056
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: that's all. We're human. And sometimes being human also can

1057
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: be a negative because no, we have no guard like powers.

1058
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: You know, we can't snap our fingers, we can't wish

1059
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: with our genies. But in the process of building your

1060
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: company and building your brain, you can't make a difference.

1061
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: And if you say, rashaan one thing because you because

1062
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 1: we list to a lot of things. We talked about

1063
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: maternal health, we talked about education, reforestation, We talked about

1064
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: gender equality initiative. What pops out at the top of

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Speaker 1: that list if you said, Rashan, I really want to

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Speaker 1: focus on this what what what what popped out? Is

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Speaker 1: it education? Is the maternal health care? Well? You know

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Speaker 1: how will I will actually uh think that is economics.

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by economics because is having to

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Speaker 1: me and I'm looking at from home right when I

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Speaker 1: look from home, seven people centers of our communities in

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Speaker 1: West Africa today are the way I grew up in

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Speaker 1: the real community. And we have two things. We have

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Speaker 1: knowledge and we have resources. So economic to me is

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Speaker 1: that how do we put those two together and and

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Speaker 1: and in the moral process and share of the world

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Speaker 1: because that process does many things. One it gives us

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Speaker 1: fund uh for for health care for ourselves. It gives

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Speaker 1: self dignity because now we're able to trade own resources,

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Speaker 1: we don't just give them away. And above all allow

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Speaker 1: us to invest in our future, which we don't have

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Speaker 1: right now. So I think, I think everything else in

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Speaker 1: my view falls under economics, but it needs to be

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Speaker 1: economics that have a level of morality. Does incorporate economics

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Speaker 1: itself in the terms of capitalism that we see there

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Speaker 1: nothing's going from making money but making money recklessly and

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Speaker 1: and and destroying the people wealth, life, cultures and above

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Speaker 1: all the environment is not the way to go in

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Speaker 1: the future when we have eight billion people on the earth. Uh,

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Speaker 1: to me, it have to imply a sense of morality

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Speaker 1: and and still be a capitalist process. Well, you know

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Speaker 1: they when we we we as we go through this

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Speaker 1: conversation talking about your brand, talking about you, I know

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Speaker 1: this is not. First of all, we just say this,

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Speaker 1: this is not the only time we're gonna talk. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: my main concern here was that I just want to

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Speaker 1: have a conversation with you, sir, about you. I thought

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Speaker 1: that that way as soon as we turned the comments off.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I come to London and not we know

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Speaker 1: because of the way your drink, but I can bring

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Speaker 1: some stuff from home. We don't thank you. You know.

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Speaker 1: The thing about it is that you know this is

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Speaker 1: a man's man's conversation and it's since um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know where I came from and and I'm not bragging.

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Speaker 1: I'm not bragging. You know, you don't brag from coming

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Speaker 1: from impoverished situation. You don't brag from coming from situation

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Speaker 1: that that didn't lend themselves to favorable I've comes. You

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Speaker 1: brag when you come from Beverly Hills, you brag when

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Speaker 1: you graduate from Yale. You brag when you you're born

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Speaker 1: with the spooning your off, you brag when you when

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Speaker 1: you to Queen Elizabeth, it's yours, your grandmama. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's what you brag about. But you

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Speaker 1: can brag when you willing to make a difference where

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Speaker 1: you came from. And that's all that's my mandate, that's

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Speaker 1: all I live for. And so so when I was

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Speaker 1: leaving your bio and I wanted to talk to you,

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Speaker 1: my conversation was that your business got this interview, but

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Speaker 1: the interview I wanted to talk about the mains and

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Speaker 1: thank you. You cannot change because you're an inspiration because

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Speaker 1: you're breaking down barriers every day. And as you break

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Speaker 1: down these barriers, it's important that people understand that that

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Speaker 1: you don't have to do that you can get in

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Speaker 1: your call and not and and then be happy. That's

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Speaker 1: you can pay the taxes and not go back, and

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Speaker 1: when you go back, you can floss and then end

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Speaker 1: it all. But you don't want to floss. You want to,

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Speaker 1: you want to get but we have to. You know,

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Speaker 1: you saw the conversation talk about the barrier in the wall.

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Speaker 1: If we and as you do, and we don't engage,

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Speaker 1: what kind of it's people before us didn't didn't engage. Uh,

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen to your us children? Because we know

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Speaker 1: that we don't want them to live? Uh and witness?

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Speaker 1: Well we witness. So I think again, Uh, there's no

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Speaker 1: there's nowhere around but to engage and to share and

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Speaker 1: to share with with respect. And I know that. It's

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Speaker 1: the interesting thing about streaming television, you know, streaming television.

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Speaker 1: When I talked streaming, I talk about the Netflix, the Amazons,

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Speaker 1: and the Apples. They have exposed us to the African

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Speaker 1: culture from a television, from a filmmaking standpoint, and really

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Speaker 1: allowed us to become more and more comfortable that they

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Speaker 1: are just like us. And that's a blessing. And that's

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Speaker 1: a blessing. A lot of people need to understand what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying here, because when you don't know, and so

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Speaker 1: it's sometimes the media can control what you know. You know,

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Speaker 1: and so that's why you walk around the United States.

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Speaker 1: They have they have Confederate statues up like they're good

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Speaker 1: because they don't tell you the story that they should

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Speaker 1: never have been up. Okay, so special rock people who

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Speaker 1: were willing to enslave and maintain that slave reached status.

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Speaker 1: And so so when I look at the next the

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Speaker 1: netflix is and the Amazons and all these treatment, I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy because I myself personally, I see it breaking

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Speaker 1: down walls of communication, entertainment And do you see that?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel that it's a blessing? You know? I

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Speaker 1: do you know? Because there's one thing that that I

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Speaker 1: always talk about is that do we bring our communities

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Speaker 1: uh together right? Uh? And and and to me, what

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Speaker 1: the well I feel does and the partuct that I

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Speaker 1: feel over uh is one way to do that. But

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Speaker 1: what we see today that we can you know, and

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Speaker 1: I even speak for myself. I can be in the

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Speaker 1: West Africa and b to do a video conference with

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Speaker 1: somebody in America is immediate where you don't have to

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Speaker 1: rely on the on the on the newspaper to print

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Speaker 1: this story that's your story. You could have your own story. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So I I think that that process, what's happened right

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Speaker 1: now is a good thing. But we must also be

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Speaker 1: very mindful um that the way in which the way

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Speaker 1: sharing that the people who are sharing, at least from

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Speaker 1: in Africa are representing the people. So that's something that

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Speaker 1: we have to be we have to pay attention to.

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Speaker 1: But as it is right now, I do agree, it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a way for us to begin to build

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Speaker 1: the first layer. Out said, there are many layers. At

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Speaker 1: least build the first layer, the first layers. There. You

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Speaker 1: came on my show to talk about your product. Let's

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Speaker 1: Starr tell us how we can we can reach it,

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Speaker 1: how we can buy it. How I want to tell

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Speaker 1: you something I don't see. Alaia's just a product right

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Speaker 1: these the two uh, and I'll be more than grateful

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about even bigger matters around the

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Speaker 1: world all day long. But where you can't find the

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Speaker 1: whole food's market around the country and pretty much any

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Speaker 1: health food stores that that's where we are is in

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Speaker 1: healthful stores do care out product as well, and of

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Speaker 1: course within our website. Well you know I had to,

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Speaker 1: I had to bring it up because I didn't want

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Speaker 1: the p all people be man, he didn't even talk

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Speaker 1: this this is just a small show that represents my

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Speaker 1: values and the people I've trying to bring on this

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Speaker 1: And you're a beautiful person. Man, you can't change you.

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Speaker 1: to the last breath, these my journeys, the path I've

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Speaker 1: and I would do it until until until there's no

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Speaker 1: by my communities. And I'm just very very grateful that

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Speaker 1: My next guest is one of those people. You know.

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Speaker 1: She didn't let age stop her. She had let being

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Speaker 1: agenda stop her. She didn't let being a single mom

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Speaker 1: stop her. The next guest is Dr Geneva Williams. After

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Speaker 1: a far it plus your career as an order winning,

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Speaker 1: innovative nonprofit leader, Dr Geneva reinvented herself as an author,

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Speaker 1: international speaker, podcast entitle holding, an advocate for women to

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Speaker 1: live fit, fine, and a vibrant life. She says how

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Speaker 1: she went from her stellar career as a president CEO,

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Speaker 1: becoming a widow at the four decades of marriage, still

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01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: raising two millennaials at home, to become the oldest contestants

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01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: to win to Miss Black Fit and Fine Patch, to

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Speaker 1: being recognized as a leading Michigan businesswoman and going on

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Speaker 1: to be the star in the very first television commercial.

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Speaker 1: She's on the show today. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations,

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Speaker 1: Dr Geneva Williams. Did I get everything right? Dore? Oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness. I want you to come right from me

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01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: and introduce me everywhere I go. How are you got

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01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: something to say? Though? You have something to say, You

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01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: have a life to say. And I want to talk

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01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: about your life because you know I always look at

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Speaker 1: people your youth. We don't we don't see uh, you

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Speaker 1: know you eighteen nineteen used to mention worth forty sixty

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01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: is so far off you can't even conceptualize. Or it

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Speaker 1: feels like to be forty or sixty or and you

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01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: look around and you see people who are forty and

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01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: sixty and you go, I never you might not even

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Speaker 1: say how I'm gonna walk or what I'm gonna do,

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Speaker 1: because we don't think about preparing for retirement. Now, let's

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01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: talk about your early life. You know, successful, married, happy, uh,

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Speaker 1: two beautiful kids. How was that life like for you? Oh?

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01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: It was fabulous. Um, you know I am. I have

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Speaker 1: three children and three grandchildren, so you know I I,

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01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, really was living a fabulous life. I had

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Speaker 1: the career where I didn't think I had a job

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01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,839
Speaker 1: because I was doing what I love doing, uh, running

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01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 1: the United Way, working in nonprofits, helping create change, raising

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars for various community initiatives. And you know,

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Speaker 1: had a real good, good marriage, um, and things were

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Speaker 1: going along for me great. I come from a small

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Speaker 1: town in New Jersey, and I grew up in a

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Speaker 1: community of adults. You know, Rashan, you know my sister

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Speaker 1: and I used to always think that the adults in

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Speaker 1: the community would go somewhere and have a meeting on

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01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: us because they seemed to know everything about us, and

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01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: they gave us constant advice and endless questions about how

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Speaker 1: we were doing, and how are our grades and how

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Speaker 1: were we making it? And you know, it was like

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Speaker 1: this community consensus where everyone was interested in our success.

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Speaker 1: And I still today think even though then I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a big time conspiracy, but what I know

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Speaker 1: now is it was about adults in a community caring.

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Speaker 1: Until so much of my life's were has been about

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Speaker 1: trying to rebuild that community consensus that many of us

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Speaker 1: grew up in in black communities where every adult, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was a big mama or an auntie or some

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Speaker 1: everyone cared about who we were and what we would do.

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Speaker 1: So that's the kind of environment I grew up in

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Speaker 1: and really shaped um my career, what I got into.

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Speaker 1: The influences that and my parents, who were ordinary people,

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Speaker 1: also were civil rights activists. Right now, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's certainty right there. That's that's a certainty.

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Speaker 1: You're explained a very uh eight to five children, loving husband.

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Speaker 1: Then the uncertainty came into your life now, when uncertainly

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Speaker 1: comes into me life, that's one of your critical steps

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Speaker 1: that you talk about because a lot of people aren't

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Speaker 1: ready for that. Uncertain It can be getting fired. Uncertainty

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Speaker 1: can be a relationships suddenly indie and you didn't expect it.

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Speaker 1: A certainty can be uh financial loss. A certainty can

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Speaker 1: be COVID nineteen. That's a biging certainty. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people dealing with that's uncertainty. How you embrace it? The

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Speaker 1: uncertainty in your life was the passion of your husband. Correct. Yeah,

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01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: And and it happened at a time where I was

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01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: experiencing all these ups and downs and differences in life

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01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: because I was in my fifties and sixties. And there's

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Speaker 1: something about when you get to a half century, more

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01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,480
Speaker 1: than a half century of living, you know, you experience

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01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: all these different changes, everything from the gray hairs to

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Speaker 1: the your body changing, to the changing in relationships and

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Speaker 1: taking care of aging parents and seeing children go out

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01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: and do their thing which you want them to. But

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01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: it does create these changes. And what was I going

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01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 1: to do for retire? And all these things were going

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01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 1: when both my parents and my husband got very sick

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Speaker 1: and I went into several years of caring for them,

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Speaker 1: and then they all passed pretty much during within months

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Speaker 1: of each other. So for the first time, Uh, I

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Speaker 1: was devastated totally. You know, I was just grieved out.

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Speaker 1: There was just nothing. I mean, these were people who

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Speaker 1: I had never spent a day in my life without,

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Speaker 1: you know, I always had them, so total uncertainty. Uh,

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01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: dark days. Um, every day. I was crying every day.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was going to do. Um.

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Speaker 1: And even though I had been very successful in in

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Speaker 1: my career and I had a forty year marriage, a

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Speaker 1: good marriage that was only ended by the cancer, it

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Speaker 1: took my husband away. Um, I was lost. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know what to do, and I was in my sixties,

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Speaker 1: and so it was like I constantly said, well, my

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Speaker 1: life's over. What am I gonna do now? And it

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Speaker 1: was Sean. It was one of those times when one

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Speaker 1: night I was looking through these obituaries of the three

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Speaker 1: most important people ever in my life, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I was in my night nightly ritual of you know,

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Speaker 1: on my knees often crying, you know, woe is me? Um.

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Speaker 1: I looked and saw that dash, you know, Sean, that

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Speaker 1: dash between the day you are born and the day

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Speaker 1: you die. And I when I looked at that dash,

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, that's what I remember about my

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Speaker 1: mom and my dad and my sweetheart, my husband. That's

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Speaker 1: what I remember. It's that dash. That's what life's about.

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Speaker 1: It's where the meaning takes place. And what was I

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Speaker 1: gonna do about my dash? Was I just ready to

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Speaker 1: give up? And that's really rashan. As I began to

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Speaker 1: look at it and think about it, I slowly started

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Speaker 1: to get off my knees, stand out and get back

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01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: in the world because I found some meaning. And that's

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Speaker 1: when I began to discover what for me with the

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01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: secrets of um, you know, living a vibrant life. Let

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01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about that that that that

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01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 1: old way, what is me? Lifestyle and mentality and coming

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01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 1: out of that the little the little engine that could

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01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: coming up that hill, you know, and then going over,

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01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, because what happens is when you're that old

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01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 1: always mean you have a lot of tragedy, tragedy and

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01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: tragedy in your life. A lot of people don't I

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01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: talk to you, they know, they know they feel nerves

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Speaker 1: by telling you to suck it up or come on down.

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Speaker 1: You have a lot of life to give, so you

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01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of people around you that they

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01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 1: can challenge you because know you in a state of

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01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: sadness and they don't want to sound like they they

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01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: are uh selfish by telling you you can you can

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01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: move on? And so you saw the dash. What were

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01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: everybody else saying around You're the family members, your friends

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01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: and all that good stuff. Yeah, everyone, And you know

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Speaker 1: when you're in that state, everyone is so supportive or

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01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: they try to be right. You tell you things like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you've got a lot of life ahead of uh,

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01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: move forward and you know, get over and even get

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01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 1: over it or it's time to get over it. And

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Speaker 1: you know, none of that helped me, None of that.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I don't believe there's a timeline for grief,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just really don't. And I had to

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Speaker 1: discover me for me, in myself. And the first thing

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01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: that in what I discovered for a secret for me

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01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 1: that I discovered was I had to reconnect with my

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01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: why so, my purpose, my raisin detra Why am I here?

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01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: You know? Not about my husband and my parents and

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01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: my children, my grandchildren, all the friends and family? Why me? Lord?

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01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: Why me? You know what is it that you have

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01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 1: for me, because I believe each of us has at

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01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: least one unique gift or talent and finding that gift

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01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: or talent and understanding your purpose. And as I began

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01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 1: to reflect and really go deep, I rediscovered my purpose.

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01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 1: I refound my why I'm living. And so that's one

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Speaker 1: of the secrets I think to life at any age,

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Speaker 1: and that is knowing your purpose, knowing why you here,

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01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 1: why God put you here, what is it you supposed

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01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: to do? And that's the thing that helps get me

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01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,879
Speaker 1: up every morning, gets me excited and to think about,

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01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm fulfilling my meaning. And I rediscovered that,

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01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: you know, God put me on this earth to inspire

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01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 1: and teach and to help, particularly women over fifty who

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01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: are in my same age category, to uh rediscover themselves

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01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: and figure out their next steps because we're not done yet.

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01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: And so rediscovering my why and my purpose really was

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01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: the first big secret that I discovered. Well, you know

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01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: now I want to go back on that sadness that

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01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a timeline of sadness. You have

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01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: to learn how to just box it, put in a

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01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 1: box and from apartmentalize it. Because of the fact that

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01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, I know when I when I think about death,

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01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 1: I think about my parents, I think about my sister.

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01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: You know, I might think about it a year from now.

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01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 1: I might think about it on their birthday. I might

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01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: think about it. So it's all right, Well we're talking

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01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:06,480
Speaker 1: about is compartmentalizing it so it doesn't dominate your everyday

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01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 1: life moving forward, so it doesn't stop you from meeting people,

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01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 1: stop you from movie, stopping you from getting the job,

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01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: stopping you from saying, you know something, I want to

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01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: be happy, hear me. Don't get that I want to

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01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: be happy, and so what happens is and that that's

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01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 1: why I wanted to bring Dr Geneva Williams on the show,

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01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: is that it's about you know, this is how I speak.

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01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: You know, I speak this way and I'm not trying

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01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: to be younger than what I am. I'm just trying

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01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: to be Rashwan McDonald. I don't worry about another birthday.

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01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: I gotta have a birthday to accomplish my dreams. I

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01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: don't lock myself to a certain age. I want to

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01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: be thirty nine for rest of my life. I want

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01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: to be fitting that. No, I want to be whatever

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01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 1: age God allows me to be on that year, he says,

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01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: my birthday, because I got gold I gotta put in place.

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01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 1: And so when I saw a video of you, I said,

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01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: this is my girl. I gotta bring home my show

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01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 1: because she she's not restricting the steps of opportunity tied

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01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: to the age that she's assigned to that year. That's

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01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: a beautiful part of your personality. Where did that come from?

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't I think it came from my

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01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: started with my parents because they were activist way into

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01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties. You know, my I started writing

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01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: my book with my dad when he was one and

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01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: we were to publish it together. So, you know, I

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01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: interviewed him about all the things he went through, all

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01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:35,759
Speaker 1: his trials and tribulations, the historic U landmark civil rights

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01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: case he won and took all the way to the

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01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: Supreme Court New Jersey and changed housing discrimination laws in

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01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 1: New Jersey forever. And we talked about all of that.

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Speaker 1: We did that together. Now he passed before the book

1482
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: was published, but he did read the final manuscript and

1483
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: said it was good. But that was like nineties, and

1484
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 1: and my mom, I think left in her late eighties.

1485
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 1: And but they always. But you know, Rashan, it really

1486
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: wasn't about the chronological age. What it really was was

1487
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: their mindset and and what they felt in their heart

1488
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: and their purpose. Uh. And that's what I discovered that

1489
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: it really is about my purpose and my motivation and

1490
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: continuing to give, you know, those gifts, and that compartmentalization

1491
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: you talk about, I think is right on for me.

1492
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: My compartment is my heart. So I keep you know,

1493
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: those who have gone on that you meant so much

1494
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: to me in my heart and so they'll always be there.

1495
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: So I'm not trying to get rid of them at all.

1496
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 1: Those they've got to be in your heart. And you

1497
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 1: know what, Rashan, we have to laugh about the good times.

1498
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 1: And one of the things I do is I pull

1499
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 1: out the albums all the time. I consider myself an

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01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 1: amateur photographer, so I have thousandsons of pictures. I ain't

1501
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: in none of them, okay, because I'm always so busy

1502
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: taking over. But I pull out my albums and I'll laugh,

1503
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: sometimes i'll cry, but I reflect and we live those

1504
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 1: good times, those moments, Rashan. And that's why I think

1505
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: it's important to have those moments um to live because

1506
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 1: we all are going to get out of here one day. Okay,

1507
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: what we do while we're here that dash, my friend,

1508
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: you're not hitting, you're not you're not tweeting a mission

1509
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 1: or another of This interview right now got me popped up,

1510
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: as usual, because when it's from a from a gender standpoint,

1511
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm a man, your woman, and they have different rules

1512
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 1: in the play, and they have different rules and play

1513
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: for African Americans. Okay, and so leadership. You know, you're

1514
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: an attractive woman. Some people can diminish your success because

1515
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 1: you're attracted, you know. And then that's a sad part

1516
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: about sexism. But in the end, if you have somebody

1517
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 1: who's fifty, they confused. They you know, they don't they

1518
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: look in the mirror, they don't like the way they're

1519
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: seeing in the mirror. They don't like the people around them.

1520
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: What advice do you get for people who are stuck?

1521
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: Let's use the word stuck, because a lot of people

1522
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: listen to this interview are stuck. We want to get

1523
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 1: them unstuck. And I'm gonna tell you something, we are

1524
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,719
Speaker 1: not on the way you pull yourself from an unstuck position.

1525
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 1: You have to want to make change. Exactly if you

1526
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: don't want to make change. You think this is the lottery.

1527
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but you gotta want to make change. I

1528
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 1: do want to set that little, that little qualified before

1529
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 1: you get started. You're absolutely right, and you have to

1530
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: put sweat equity into what it is you. You got

1531
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: to do that, okay. You know. One of the things

1532
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: that I say the folks in terms of the secrets

1533
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: that I found, is to make a plan. You gotta

1534
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: have a game plan. What is it you're gonna do

1535
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,839
Speaker 1: with your life? You know? So you know, let's assume

1536
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: you you you you know what your purpose is, You've

1537
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: discovered your why, you understand why you're here, what it

1538
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: is you want to do, what your talents are. Okay,

1539
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: then what you're gonna do with it? So that's making

1540
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: a plan, you know, whether you think it in your

1541
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 1: head or write it down. Though writing it down, you know,

1542
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: writing it down helps you see it and achieve it better.

1543
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: That's what all the research says. But I understand if

1544
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: you just want to keep it in your head and

1545
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 1: think about it. But the best thing to do is

1546
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: figure out what your goals are, what it is you know,

1547
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 1: you've got this vision of your life that you want

1548
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: to be, which is first step, figure out what it

1549
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: is you want your life to be and then decide, well,

1550
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: how am I going to get there? So those are

1551
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: your goals, and then how am I going to reach

1552
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: those goals? That's your action steps, and then what am

1553
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: I gonna do it? That's your timeline. Well, when you

1554
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: finish putting together a vision, a goal, some action steps

1555
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: in the timeline, you got yourself a plan and then

1556
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 1: do it. And so one of the things that I

1557
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: found is you gotta have a plan. And it's your plan.

1558
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,560
Speaker 1: It's not your uncle's or your aunts or your scouse is.

1559
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 1: It's your plan. And come on, let's do it. Get

1560
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: that game plan together. Uh, you know, male, female, black, white,

1561
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 1: have a game plan and that you know, and it's

1562
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: your plan, and be willing to switch it up or

1563
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: change it if you need to. You know, if people

1564
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 1: say to me, um, sometimes well I don't know what

1565
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: to do. You know, I don't feel I'm I'm really

1566
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 1: done anything. I'm stuck, you know that that kind of thing.

1567
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 1: One of the tips I give folk when they feel

1568
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: that way is to, uh, make a list of your accomplishments. Rashan,

1569
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, if you living and breathing,

1570
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 1: and if you're listening to us, have this conversation. In

1571
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: your life, you've accomplished something, probably a whole lot of somethings,

1572
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 1: and so one of the things, pull out that piece

1573
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 1: of paper and write down all of the things you've

1574
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 1: account all your successes. What have you done? When you

1575
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: sit back, I'm guaranteed you sit back and look at

1576
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 1: that list, You're gonna say, but you know that's important

1577
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: what you're saying. But you know what I'm saying, here's

1578
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: something that absolutely it always saying. It's like in my life.

1579
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: You know, because a lot of people have qualifiers on success.

1580
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: You know, they they look at Lebron James and that

1581
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: might be successful to them. You have to look at

1582
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 1: your competition. I mean, when I was building Steve Harvey's

1583
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,560
Speaker 1: a social media I put this competition that was that

1584
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 1: was close to him. I didn't go way up there,

1585
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 1: there was way away. I started close to him and

1586
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 1: started setting his goals in social media and we started

1587
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: passing them as we were along the way. Now, if

1588
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,679
Speaker 1: I just said this goal four or five million away

1589
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 1: instead of fifty thousand away, then guess what it would

1590
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: look seem insurmountable. And so when you start talking about

1591
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: goal setting, said, goals that are reachable. I always talked

1592
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 1: about nay day goals. I don't talk about years. Well,

1593
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, that's why a lot of people don't go

1594
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: to college because they see here here four years. It

1595
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: just knocks him out on the four years. Uh, I

1596
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 1: can't catch comm into something like four years. That's why

1597
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 1: people go to trade schools. And I'm not knocking that

1598
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 1: because they see a shorter turn turnaround. But always no

1599
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 1: set a goal that you feel comfortable with and reaching.

1600
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: And that's what she's saying about planning a lot of

1601
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 1: people playing success, but they don't planning it with a goal,

1602
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 1: a reachable goal, and know that it's you always treated

1603
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: like a steps on the ladder. Each steps kiss you higher,

1604
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 1: each steps gets you higher. You don't want to jump

1605
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 1: steps on the ladder. You might fall off exactly exactly.

1606
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: And so that's what you know. Be have realistic goals,

1607
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 1: goals that make sense that you can touch and reach,

1608
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 1: and goals that you know that you've reached success when

1609
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 1: you've completed that. Sometimes we set these vague goals and

1610
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 1: we don't really even know when we reached them. And

1611
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 1: so I always tell folks when you're setting goals, um,

1612
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 1: speaking in the present and the now and speaking in

1613
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 1: positive terms like you know, um, you know, I want

1614
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: to lose fifty pounds. Okay, that's too vague. It really

1615
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 1: doesn't say much, doesn't talk about when or what have you.

1616
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 1: But you can say, Brad said, stated in the positive terms.

1617
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 1: I am my ideal weight. You know, it's a positive thing.

1618
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: So you've already put yourself in that future self that

1619
01:30:57,439 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 1: you want to be and you see yourself that way.

1620
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: Oh I gotta quit smoking. No, I'm a non smoker.

1621
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 1: So you claim it and say it for yourself and

1622
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 1: then begin to write down the action steps that will

1623
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 1: make that statement on a non smoker true. Absolutely when

1624
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 1: I when I think about it, when people, especially on

1625
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: weight loss, I always tell people just just pickle. I

1626
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: want to lose a pound of week. That's See. If

1627
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 1: you lose a pound of week, at the end of

1628
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 1: you lost fifty pounds. And so what if you say

1629
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 1: I want to lose fifty pounds, I'm like, oh, I'm

1630
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,560
Speaker 1: gonna do that. But just to pound a week, a

1631
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 1: pound of week in your mind, that's what we're talking

1632
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 1: about a mindset. We're talking about how to relax your

1633
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 1: way into success. We're talking about not being overwhelmed by

1634
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 1: setting goals and planning things that feel unreachable because it

1635
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 1: came out of your mouth, which Shannon said. Another thing

1636
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: that I've learned through the years, and that is that

1637
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:09,639
Speaker 1: one of the ways to continually be able to create

1638
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:14,600
Speaker 1: possibilities and live a vibrant life at any age is

1639
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:21,560
Speaker 1: to practice self care. You know, too often, particularly for women, Um,

1640
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 1: we get so busy in life trying to be successful,

1641
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: trying to you know, climb to the top all of

1642
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:32,640
Speaker 1: those things that we forget to take care of ourselves

1643
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 1: and and and not. And I'm not talking about you know,

1644
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 1: making sure you get a massage every week, though that's good, now,

1645
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 1: now that that'd be good. Okay, that's if you can

1646
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 1: afford it, that's great. But you know, self care is

1647
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 1: about so many different aspects of your life. It deals

1648
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 1: with your social care, your physical care, your psychological care,

1649
01:32:56,200 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: your mental, your emotional even learning how to a no

1650
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 1: is a good way to practice self care, so that

1651
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 1: in fact, you're putting your needs your priorities first. So

1652
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: practicing uh, taking care of yourself, loving yourself the way

1653
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: that you should eliminating the negative self talk. You know,

1654
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:22,720
Speaker 1: we be you know, talk all these things kind of

1655
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 1: run around in our mind about what we can't do,

1656
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: these limiting behaviors. You know, what we can't do, what

1657
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: we can't say, what we can't wear, what we shouldn't do,

1658
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, et cetera. By the time we finished, you

1659
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 1: be exhausted. You know. So we need to reduce or

1660
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: eliminate the negative self talk. And that's part of taking

1661
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 1: care of yourself, that self care, that self love. That

1662
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 1: particularly during these times, as times are tough, as we're

1663
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 1: in pandemic, as you know, we're facing uncertainty UM an

1664
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 1: uncertainty that is going to the pandemic sean is going

1665
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 1: to end where it will move into something different, but

1666
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 1: uncertainty it's going to be with us always. You know,

1667
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 1: life is about ups and downs, That's what life is.

1668
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 1: And so learning how to embrace uncertainty, become a master

1669
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: of UM, having yourself developed, learning the tricks and tips

1670
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 1: to decrease worry and stress and focus on your goals.

1671
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: You know, those are things that we should develop. We

1672
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 1: should become masters of that. Pandemic or not because it

1673
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 1: will always be something that's in our lives that we're

1674
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 1: not going to be a hundred percent sure of. So hey,

1675
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:56,600
Speaker 1: let's become those masters of being the best that we

1676
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 1: can be, being the most vibrant that we can be

1677
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 1: at an age. Thank you. She's a late she's a

1678
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 1: later life beautiful queen. I would say beautiful queen. I

1679
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 1: am saying I'm not gonna say beauty queen. Beautiful queen.

1680
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 1: She's a queen. She's an entrepreneur, online course creator. You know,

1681
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 1: the thing I love about you is that you don't

1682
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 1: let age stop you. And that's what I'm preaching now.

1683
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 1: I'm preaching that for even somebody twenty years old, don't

1684
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: let age stop you. Don't tell us somebody you're too

1685
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 1: young to accomplish that thirty years old, fourty years old,

1686
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 1: fifty and when you hit fifty and sixty, please stop

1687
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 1: it by saying that you can't accomplish your dreams because

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Speaker 1: back to money making conversations with your host, Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is all about community effort and also

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Speaker 1: about reaching his own dreams. He is an inventor and

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Speaker 1: a hard worker. He has dreamed up dozens of innovations

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Speaker 1: and solutions to everyday problems well over a decade. His

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Speaker 1: the current investors. Now he has multiple ideas in various

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Speaker 1: stages of production. He's the owner of a startup and

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Speaker 1: has aspirations that reach into multimedia entertainment. Please welcome to

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Speaker 1: money making Conversations out of michicun my man, Corey Wilcox, Hey, Corey,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Well? I brought you on the show

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Speaker 1: man because you know, I'm a guy who's never ever

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Speaker 1: been able to understand the Rooper Q. And you come

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01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 1: up with something similar in style called the Rodo brain,

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01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 1: which is a three dimensional type, would enhances your memory,

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Speaker 1: critical thinking skills, and would test your I Q. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know my Q pretty high. What would the Rodeo

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Speaker 1: brain do? And I'm not saying that out of ego.

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Speaker 1: I got a math degree, my mind is and sociology,

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Speaker 1: so I'm a logical person. But man, this Rodo brain

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01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 1: looks like it's gonna complicate my mind and my just

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Speaker 1: it's my mind too over to embrace something like this

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Speaker 1: just far a certain generational age. No, it's for it's

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Speaker 1: for all generations. Uh, it's next level puzzle gaming. Um

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Speaker 1: it's basically I took the idea from uh master combination

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Speaker 1: lock right combination lock. I just figured, hey, I want

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Speaker 1: to just make something cool from it, and I brought

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Speaker 1: the I took a roots cube and I took the

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Speaker 1: master combination. I can I kind of combinding together and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's make this happen. Okay, now the master's combination lock.

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Speaker 1: You know that's that you know, you know to this way,

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Speaker 1: this way, this way left to thirteen fifteen right, thirteen left,

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Speaker 1: and then they are locked. That's the way that works.

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01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 1: But that's just a lot. Now you have all these

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Speaker 1: colors that you have to align on the rotor brain correct,

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01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 1: similar to the rocks Q. So each each level has

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Speaker 1: its own combination code color combination code. So as you

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Speaker 1: go through the game, the first combination code has about

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Speaker 1: three of your combination possibilities, the second, the second row

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Speaker 1: has about ten thousand possibilities right, and the third row

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Speaker 1: has about sixty thousand possibilities. So as you saw beach

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Speaker 1: rolls a little knob at the top, you get the

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Speaker 1: correct colors correct through combination colors, each level will pop

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Speaker 1: up and say uh, level one complete, level to complete,

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Speaker 1: Level three complete. Once you get done with the game,

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Speaker 1: you can actually take it apart and and reset it

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Speaker 1: and start your own code and give it to your friends,

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Speaker 1: family member, and you can say hey, now you saw it,

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Speaker 1: or you can even if you want to test yourself,

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Speaker 1: you can reset the code and try to solve it again.

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01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 1: Now we said reset the code. What does that mean

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01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 1: because I want you to slow it down. We all

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Speaker 1: podcasts and were all on video, but just to get

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Speaker 1: somebody hears this on podcast when you say the word

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Speaker 1: reset the code. Because we're talking about the Road to

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Speaker 1: Brain let me explain everybody with the Road to Brain is.

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Speaker 1: It's a three D puzzle similar to the ruby que. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know that enhances your memory because you gotta remember

1819
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Speaker 1: when you placed all these different colors to get them

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Speaker 1: a line. Critical thinking skills and we'll test your i Q.

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Speaker 1: The benefits of this rodal brain that when hans your thinking,

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Speaker 1: improve your memory, your patients, that's my problem patients, problem

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Speaker 1: solving skilled, keep your mind active and improve your speed,

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Speaker 1: your finger dexterity, and agility. Now, this is an awesome way.

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Speaker 1: As you always say, it's a conversation starter. Once you

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Speaker 1: put it out on the table, when your adult and

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Speaker 1: a kid, you're gonna pick it up. Correct. Actually I can, uh,

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01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 1: I can take it down absolutely. Let's walk us through

1829
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 1: this gap. Now we're on video, okay, so I can

1830
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 1: take it down as I just want to show you

1831
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 1: because you say it's when you say, how you reset

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01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:37,920
Speaker 1: it and why you reset it? Sir? You take it apart.

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01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 1: Actually has gears that go around. So these gears as

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Speaker 1: a little knobs and you can actually set these knobs

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01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 1: and they actually can set up the colors for you.

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01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 1: And that's how you actually have the combination code where

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01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 1: you can reset it and give it to friends and family. Right,

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01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 1: So you can't I love this already because you're saying, Rashawn,

1839
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 1: you can. You can always change your channel, lunch, always yourself,

1840
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 1: challenge yourself. Okay, So now this goes back to how

1841
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 1: did this start? Which came first they gotta chicken? How

1842
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 1: did this whole thing lay itself out? Because to me,

1843
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,639
Speaker 1: I'm still confused, not in the sect of the fact

1844
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 1: that this is not a talented toy or talented thinking

1845
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:25,639
Speaker 1: the device. How you pulled it off. That's why I'm confused,

1846
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:29,639
Speaker 1: because you're stepping into another level of being an inventor

1847
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 1: that really complicates my life but also simplifies it because

1848
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 1: you were able to pull it off. That's why you

1849
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 1: are who you are, and that's why I'm interviewing you.

1850
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 1: You know, I can give the background of the rotor

1851
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 1: brain is I was going through a very very very

1852
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:50,879
Speaker 1: depressing time of my life because I'm in event for

1853
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 1: a very long time. Yes, sir, so I never really

1854
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 1: got any success from, you know, showing companies different toys

1855
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 1: and different products. So I had this. I'm just in

1856
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 1: a deep, deep place, in my deep dark place in

1857
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 1: my life, and I had a conversation with God and

1858
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:08,600
Speaker 1: I sat there and prayed. I remember, I remember like

1859
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 1: it was yesterday, just like five years ago. I'm sitting

1860
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:14,559
Speaker 1: in a dark room crying, like crying like somebody punched

1861
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 1: me in my face or something. And I had a

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01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:18,800
Speaker 1: conversation with God and I said, you know, God, if

1863
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Speaker 1: you can give me something that the impact and change

1864
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,800
Speaker 1: the world, I tell everybody that you did it. And

1865
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 1: that's what happened. Then I had to do. That night,

1866
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 1: I had a dream the roller brain was kind of

1867
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 1: floating in my face, and my dream, I woke and

1868
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 1: I grabbed it. When I grabbed it, I woke up

1869
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 1: and I remember I bumped my wife and I said, hey,

1870
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 1: I think God just showed me something. She was like, man,

1871
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't care about that without tabs, man. So I

1872
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 1: sketched it up, drew it up, and I came up

1873
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:50,640
Speaker 1: with the rotor brain and it was no awesome experience.

1874
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 1: Now that's that. Now we all know about patents because

1875
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:55,599
Speaker 1: how did that work out? How do you go through

1876
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 1: the pattent process? Did you hire a lawyer? Did you

1877
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 1: do it yourself? How did the pattent process has worked

1878
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 1: for you? Because you see a lot of people TV

1879
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 1: calling for nineteen n and nine, bring us your inventor,

1880
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 1: inventor help. Did you go to inventor help? No? No,

1881
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 1: no no, So what you can do with people don't know.

1882
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 1: As long as if you make under a hundred fifty

1883
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 1: dollars a year, you can actually do a provisional pattern

1884
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 1: for sixty five dollars. So you go a provisional path

1885
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:21,679
Speaker 1: six five dollars. It actually holds the patent for a year.

1886
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 1: So you can actually take that provisional patent, take to

1887
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 1: the company and say look I got the patent on it.

1888
01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 1: They don't really know, they just always the patent. You

1889
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 1: can say, look I got a toy, I got a patent.

1890
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 1: Let's talk business. So okay now, but so that sounds simple,

1891
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 1: but you're the latest design out. You just couldn't put

1892
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 1: it in just description. You have to have to have

1893
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 1: some pictures and some some something some symboms of a

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Speaker 1: design correct. Correct. So what I what I normally do

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Speaker 1: for how our license a product is This is the

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01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 1: sill I saw that the cheap man's way, right. You

1897
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 1: can always go to fiber right, and you can find

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01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 1: somebody on fiber for another country. Had them sketched this

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01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: up for like five or ten dollars. Have them sketched

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01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 1: up for you. We call the sales sheets. Because you

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Speaker 1: get the product looking good on the seal sheet, you

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01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 1: can get photoshot, you can have it looking like it's

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01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: in Walmart, all this good stuff to impress the company

1904
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:17,960
Speaker 1: to make the one to do listens with you. You

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01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 1: can uh once you put the cell sheet together. You

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01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 1: submitted to different companies, act different companies. Hey, I'm a

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Speaker 1: product developer. I developed this cool product. Can't take a

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01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:29,680
Speaker 1: look at it. And if they decided to go with you,

1909
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 1: you can get a license and deal. And based on

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Speaker 1: how the company is in their contract, they can give

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01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 1: you whatever contract they want the percentage right. So now

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Speaker 1: you have the idea of your wife and told you

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Speaker 1: get out of big because she ain't got time for

1914
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Speaker 1: all these charts. We've got bills and paid God and

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Speaker 1: gave you this vision, so you sketch it out and

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Speaker 1: then you got this company. It works on the cheat.

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Speaker 1: But that's how foreign labor here sometimes just schet you

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Speaker 1: up and draw, just getch you everything out and put

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Speaker 1: it into a professional plan. Then you're able to file

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Speaker 1: that because you make it on a hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: dollars for sixty they would hold that for a year.

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Speaker 1: Correct correct? Okay? Cool? So now I see this is

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Speaker 1: on Amazon because I did my little research. You know,

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Speaker 1: in fact, you go you Google is a nice description

1925
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 1: pops up about your toy? How long has it been out?

1926
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Speaker 1: And has has the sales met your expectations? So it

1927
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 1: took it took about five years to actually make it

1928
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 1: because the technology didn't exist, so we had to find

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Speaker 1: engineering company to actually prototype it and make it, and

1930
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Speaker 1: that that's what took so long. The toy actually just

1931
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Speaker 1: came out of September, right, um, and the sales and

1932
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Speaker 1: the response has been pretty good. We'll be in a

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Speaker 1: lot of response from different different people, different groups, um,

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Speaker 1: and it's been pretty it's been pretty good because it's

1935
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Speaker 1: not only in Amazon, it's on Walmart and a couple

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01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 1: of different stories around the world. Well, you know, I

1937
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 1: have you ever heard of, uh, this restaurant called Cracker Bottle, Yes, okay,

1938
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:56,439
Speaker 1: Cracker Bottle. You know they got that little game you're

1939
01:48:56,439 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 1: going there with the little sticks. You know, you you

1940
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 1: you it's almost like tik tac toe, but it's not

1941
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:04,680
Speaker 1: tik Tac toe. Man. It'd be great if they if

1942
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 1: you went to them and convinced them to replace that

1943
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:10,640
Speaker 1: little game that I never played with your with your

1944
01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 1: rode brain, because it's just slick, because you know, it's

1945
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 1: one of those things you put out there and you

1946
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:17,840
Speaker 1: know people can compete with each other. I'm just this

1947
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 1: is why I'm a marketing person. I know how to

1948
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Speaker 1: brand and get ideas out there. All I know is

1949
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 1: that at Cracker Barrel, which I love, they they have

1950
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:27,719
Speaker 1: become pancake That's my thing. I got for the bacon

1951
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 1: pancakes and the Freeman Cracker Barrel. Man today the food cannavasty.

1952
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 1: Oh see see you can't see right there. See how

1953
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:37,599
Speaker 1: are you gonna get out there? See you're I'm going

1954
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 1: there crackingout food that I'm talking about the product of

1955
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 1: getting your stuff in there. That's what I'm talking about.

1956
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 1: If you know what I'm talking about is that you know,

1957
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 1: these different restaurants and their different brands, and you diversity.

1958
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 1: You're diverse, okay, And so like if you go to Denny's,

1959
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 1: then it's got those little drawings with their little kids

1960
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 1: and they give them crayons and things like that so

1961
01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 1: they can keep them busy. I'm just saying, is that

1962
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 1: your product, it's so interesting and so entertaining. That's a

1963
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 1: good way of getting it out into the marketplace and

1964
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 1: start gaining interest out there. Unless you have another marketing

1965
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:11,640
Speaker 1: plan that you want to reveal to me on the

1966
01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:14,559
Speaker 1: show that you're just gonna make your products just go

1967
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 1: to the next level, like Rupu's Q Oh. Yeah. So

1968
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Speaker 1: the company that that actually licensed the roller Brain and

1969
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 1: we're working together as a partnership, they kind of they

1970
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 1: got things set up. I know, it's a it's a

1971
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 1: reality series that's in Canada that's actually supposed to be

1972
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:35,679
Speaker 1: featuring the roder Brain and a little competition and things

1973
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:38,560
Speaker 1: like that. So you know, we we we got a

1974
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Speaker 1: plan and this is working pretty good. And you know,

1975
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Speaker 1: it takes some time too, because it is a new product.

1976
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 1: People are so used to the root excue. That's kind

1977
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:48,719
Speaker 1: of it's kind of hard to to break that market

1978
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 1: because everybody is so used to rupe see roots who

1979
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 1: being out for what forties forties some plus years a

1980
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,640
Speaker 1: long time. So we kind of that's our biggest competitions

1981
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Speaker 1: RUPI scie, So we gotta take all those people and

1982
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 1: bring them over us. Let me ask you this now,

1983
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 1: you know that's your competition. It's just like McDonald's. You

1984
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 1: know McDonald's has a hamburger Burger, he has a hamburger,

1985
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 1: and then Chick fil A came out with a chicken

1986
01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 1: sandwich and then pop Eyes came out with their chicken sandwich.

1987
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:18,560
Speaker 1: So that's all competition. And what what what do you

1988
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:21,600
Speaker 1: believe that's different from your brand that you need to

1989
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 1: tell people about so they can either start playing your

1990
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 1: your rodeo brain or they just say, man, this this

1991
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 1: way better than ruby Q. Let's go do this. The

1992
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 1: biggest thing I tell tell the company is is social media. Uh.

1993
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 1: Social media is the biggest platform YouTube, Instagram. Uh. That's

1994
01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 1: where we're trying to build the market at right now,

1995
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:51,639
Speaker 1: to gain the followers, uh, to to expand the brand. Um.

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01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 1: Right now, it's just kind of word of mouth, and

1997
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, I'm fighting back and forth with the company,

1998
01:51:58,080 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 1: trying to get them to expand and do some different things,

1999
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 1: but they kind of got to the lock and key

2000
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:06,599
Speaker 1: with it. How do they want to do the market there? Right?

2001
01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:09,639
Speaker 1: So with that being said, so have you guys started

2002
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 1: any online contest yet about the rotal brain contests right now?

2003
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 1: That's all I was talking about. With the reality series

2004
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 1: that's in kind of the right now. They're doing some

2005
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 1: type of set up right now where they're trying to

2006
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 1: broadcasting like that where it's gonna be a competition to

2007
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 1: to bring get more people, to bring it more views

2008
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 1: and have more eyes on it. So, so right now

2009
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 1: this company and how did their relationship with the company

2010
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:37,520
Speaker 1: start Just to listen to other entrepreneurs who have ideas

2011
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 1: and like I said, you know when you you know,

2012
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 1: everybody wants their product to just blow out, just blow up,

2013
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 1: okay now, but you want to have a person that

2014
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,560
Speaker 1: believes in it. And so this was an investor. The

2015
01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 1: company came in. They believed in your product, the rotal brain,

2016
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 1: and the rotal brain is like a rupie Que type product,

2017
01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:56,799
Speaker 1: where like the roup is Que enhances your humanity, memory,

2018
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 1: critical thinking, and will test your i Q. That's the

2019
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 1: value the ruby's que. The value of the rothal brain

2020
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 1: is that you can keep changing your codes so you're

2021
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 1: not trapped at the same ruby que. So once you

2022
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:13,760
Speaker 1: master the ruby Q, it's mastered. Okay, the rothal brain

2023
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:16,720
Speaker 1: it can keep. You can change your code and guess what,

2024
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 1: you master that code, change your code to another code.

2025
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:21,439
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of the rothal brain. How have I

2026
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 1: figured it out yet? Yes, sir, never stop stop, right

2027
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 1: And so with that being said, what's next step for you? Man?

2028
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:32,679
Speaker 1: I know you're not tied to just one one one invention.

2029
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:34,680
Speaker 1: You got a lot of startups going on. Tell us

2030
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:37,600
Speaker 1: about the future story. I'm also an author to I

2031
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:40,760
Speaker 1: wrote the book based on some past experiences with my

2032
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:45,719
Speaker 1: son's mother. It's called Baby on the Drama, the Drama,

2033
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 1: And it's not a book that's the Great Woman anything

2034
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 1: like that, you know. Going through course. First of all,

2035
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 1: baby Mama Drama. That title right there, You got me

2036
01:53:57,360 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 1: chuckling right there. Okay, So so know that you and

2037
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:04,679
Speaker 1: jumped from enhancing your memory, memory, critical thinking and testing

2038
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 1: your i Q too, Baby Mama Drama. You know what

2039
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 1: it's like here and there? Okay, So now this is

2040
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 1: a brand conversation. Now, okay, I understand it's a it's

2041
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 1: a personal journey. So how can a guy be talking

2042
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:21,439
Speaker 1: about rup e Q type design style and in the

2043
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 1: rotal brain and then turn around and say, I'm also

2044
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 1: the author of Baby Mama Drama. It was something that uh,

2045
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 1: you know, I followed Dr Masma Row, the late grade

2046
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 1: Dr mos Row, and he always said when anything, anytime

2047
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 1: something bothers you the only person that's bothered by it,

2048
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 1: and as God telling you should do something about it.

2049
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 1: I always wanted to write a book, even while I

2050
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 1: was inventing and creating stuff and trying to license products.

2051
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 1: Are always was a writer and the author too. So

2052
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:53,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of this was time for me to put

2053
01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 1: the book out and put the toy out. There's having

2054
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:58,720
Speaker 1: to come up at the same time. So you got

2055
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 1: the mama's mad at you and confused kids with so

2056
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 1: so tell us about the book, man. You know you

2057
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 1: have brought it up, Baby Mama Drama. Y'all. Sorry, it's

2058
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 1: right over your head right there. I was just gonna

2059
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 1: talk about the roto brain, but you brought up the

2060
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 1: Baby Mama Drama book. That was okay, okay, how long

2061
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 1: was this book? In the writing and who helped you writeing? Uh,

2062
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 1: my wife is a writer too, over too, so you

2063
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 1: know she helped me know with the time to write

2064
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 1: the book. And he sat down, went through some some

2065
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:36,440
Speaker 1: past experiences and we we we chopped it up and

2066
01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:41,880
Speaker 1: we dropped the book out and and that's out here. Man, Now,

2067
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:44,880
Speaker 1: how are you promoting it? Because I'm assuming this came

2068
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 1: out and there you you you you finished writing it

2069
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 1: and during the pandemic year, which is and it didn't

2070
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 1: come out this fall? And what is your promotional plan

2071
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 1: for that? And what message are you trying to create?

2072
01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 1: A who what just called Baby Mama Drama? Is that

2073
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:01,880
Speaker 1: a book that's going to be to find men for

2074
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:05,120
Speaker 1: men to read or women can find interest and information

2075
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 1: out of it for them to be uplifted from. It's

2076
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 1: a book. It's a book for both men and women.

2077
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 1: It's not a book like I said that that The

2078
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:15,360
Speaker 1: Grades Woman is actually just a book like to me,

2079
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 1: and what I believe is guys never had the opportunity

2080
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 1: to to have anybody to talk to about situations with

2081
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 1: their kids mother, whether it's good or bad. It's just

2082
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 1: always like we're always told, hey, just take care of

2083
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 1: your kids, So we never had nobody to talk to,

2084
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 1: no outletting. Um. So when I wrote the book, it's

2085
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 1: just some personal experiences that just my struggles and my

2086
01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 1: opinions on how you can deal with the situation. Right now,

2087
01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:45,240
Speaker 1: with that being said, did they are all in positive

2088
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 1: for you? Are you still struggling with the baby mama

2089
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: drama situation? No? No, so my son, my son is

2090
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 1: fourteen right now. In the beginning, like I said, the books,

2091
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:56,240
Speaker 1: how the book is written. In the beginning, of course,

2092
01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 1: it's all bad. But as you grow and you learn,

2093
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 1: the situations is better. So and that's a lot of things.

2094
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 1: And that's that's what the book is about. It's helping

2095
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 1: guys in those situations that are in bad situations to

2096
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 1: help them learn how to deal with them so they

2097
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 1: don't go no to the or get worse. Get your stream.

2098
01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 1: Give us an example of what you're talking about from

2099
01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:19,839
Speaker 1: your book, an extremely an example of guys being guided

2100
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 1: by your book that can follow some advice that won't

2101
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 1: let them step off to the ledge and do something stupid,

2102
01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 1: or react to something stupid and embarrass themselves in front

2103
01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 1: of their child, or create a relationship where they walk

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Speaker 1: away from their child. All right. So it's a chapter

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Speaker 1: in my book that I called it's called Barriers Setting barriers.

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Speaker 1: So like in this in this chapter talks about how

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Speaker 1: my kids mother used to call me just random times

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Speaker 1: and talk about random stuff all different times in the night,

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Speaker 1: you know. And because a relationship with you that right

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Speaker 1: there to say, hey, you gotta you gotta learn how

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Speaker 1: to tell her note right to her, you can call

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Speaker 1: me at this time because you have to set barriers,

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Speaker 1: like if you if you're married, I have a girlfriend

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Speaker 1: and somebody call you a little knight, that can cost

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Speaker 1: confusing in your house. Absolutely. So I was teaching guys, hey,

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Speaker 1: learn how to talk to her in the professional, nice

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Speaker 1: Curtius way so you know it won't be no bickering,

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Speaker 1: right and learn and grow from that. So she was

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Speaker 1: still tying up your time, like y'all were still in

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Speaker 1: the relationship. So that night, Hey the pipe boat bro over,

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Speaker 1: Hey I need some food. Hey the grassneed cutting. Hey

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Speaker 1: the plumber ain't working. Hey the lights ain't on. Hey

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Speaker 1: I got a flat tie. He ain't more food in

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Speaker 1: the refrigerator. All that man's all that madness, right or

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Speaker 1: calling yelling being mad at my son. This boy up

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Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning playing video games, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: but you you stay with you right, Maybe you should

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01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:56,240
Speaker 1: tell them go to bed right right right, But you

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Speaker 1: know that I can understand the calling about that because

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01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:00,600
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta you gotta step up the volume and

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Speaker 1: men have a difference. But that's why it's important to

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Speaker 1: have to keep that parental structure, you know. That's why

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Speaker 1: it's important that you know, if two there's two people

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Speaker 1: made that child, two people should raise that child. And

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Speaker 1: that situation is that I'm not mad, you know, because

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Speaker 1: I have a daughter and my wife. Sometimes my daughters,

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Speaker 1: you go, I can't, I can't. I can't get through her.

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Speaker 1: I can't get through to her, talk to her. I

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Speaker 1: go and I go and do and I just say,

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Speaker 1: what's wrong baby? Do you not listen to your mama today?

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Speaker 1: What's going on in your mama down stairs? You know

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Speaker 1: she's on fire because you're gonna get up by this

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01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 1: room and do what yes, you do, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: And so just a conversation, That's what I'm saying. That's

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Speaker 1: that's all your that'saw your ex wife is telling you

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Speaker 1: look some things because my I would because I speak

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Speaker 1: things out. My wife. She wants an immediate reaction, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I would explain to you what I want you

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Speaker 1: to do. That's what that's the difference between my wife

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Speaker 1: and I when it comes to our child. I go,

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01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:58,840
Speaker 1: I go to I go to my daughters to look.

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Speaker 1: I need you do that. I stay, and this is

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Speaker 1: why I need you to go downstairs. My wife would go,

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Speaker 1: I need to come downstairs and wash the dishes. Okay,

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Speaker 1: as a parent, you can do that, okay, But I go, look, hey, baby, okay,

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Speaker 1: you enjoy eating in the house, right yes, daddy? Okay, cool.

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02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:17,960
Speaker 1: When you're eating the house, there are certain things that

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Speaker 1: need to be done to continue eating in the house. Yes, daddy.

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Speaker 1: That means you have to wash the dishes. You understand

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Speaker 1: the logic right now, baby, don't you? Yes, daddy? And

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Speaker 1: she goes down stairs. See that's a that's a conversation

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Speaker 1: that she understands, because if she doesn't, if you don't

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Speaker 1: watch them dishes, guess what's gonna happen there? Core She's

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Speaker 1: gonna stop eating in my house. She got you gotta

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Speaker 1: make it make sense. That's why my son make it

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Speaker 1: makes sense. Just go downstairs and watch the dishes. My

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Speaker 1: done dollar all up in fire. She's gonna keep playing

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Speaker 1: that video game. I got school work, okay, cool. Guess

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Speaker 1: what if Daddy don't pay for the school work to

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Speaker 1: keep playing at the school. Guess who's gonna stop going

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Speaker 1: to school? Me? Dad? Absolutely, I think you need to

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Speaker 1: watch those is it just just to stand in the conversation.

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Speaker 1: So in the book, So the book Baby Mama Drama

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Speaker 1: that was that was a co author. I want to say,

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Speaker 1: by you, by your wife, what is the what are

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Speaker 1: you are you? I know it's COVID nineteen and you

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Speaker 1: can't do any book tours or are you doing any

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Speaker 1: any any virtual tours or anything like that? What are

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Speaker 1: you doing to market the book right now? Just I

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Speaker 1: do a lot of marketing, a lot of social media,

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Speaker 1: do a lot of live videos. But with like you said,

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Speaker 1: what the hots ovid is? I covid got everything locked up?

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Speaker 1: It's really nothing right. Well, you know the thing about

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Speaker 1: this is that I like the I'll be honest with

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Speaker 1: your title doesn't really tell you the truth because Baby

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Speaker 1: Mama Drama. You know it does sound negative. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: just be honest with you, But what you're talking about

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Speaker 1: is real positive it's about communication. And also I like

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about is the fact that co parenting

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Speaker 1: the right way and like you said, sitting barriers. So

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Speaker 1: so some of you a copy of that book and

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Speaker 1: start to read it, and I bring it back on

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Speaker 1: the show when I know what's going on. So I

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Speaker 1: can because I read all books that when people come

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Speaker 1: on my show, I read the book. Okay, So to

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Speaker 1: the copy of your book to me so I can

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Speaker 1: bring you on back on the show reading this book. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do with in this interview, I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna just do the interview on the Rodal Brain and

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Speaker 1: then I'm gonna cut this part out and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: bring you back on the show about your book. Is

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Speaker 1: that cool? That's cool? That's cool. Yeah, because I don't

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Speaker 1: like to my staff. No, I read books, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I like to be in tune and be able

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Speaker 1: to help you get to your message so it could

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Speaker 1: be sold to the general public, and that would be

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Speaker 1: only favorable to that. I didn't expect to talk about

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Speaker 1: it doing this interview because I was just talking about

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Speaker 1: the Rodal Brain. Because I would never interview you about

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Speaker 1: the book. I've never read that's not fair to you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's cool. So so tell us how to buy this

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Speaker 1: rotal brain, sir. So yeah, man, the rotor brain. Man

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Speaker 1: is this next level game? And man? Next level fun? Um?

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna blow any puzzle toy out the water.

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Speaker 1: Um Um. I love it. It's the best thing I

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Speaker 1: ever created. Man. Um, I gotta get guy his credit.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't for him, then this thing would have never

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Speaker 1: been uh in existence. Um. Always tell people I borrowed

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Speaker 1: it from God, prayed and asking forward and then he

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Speaker 1: let me borrow it. So I'm showing the world what's

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Speaker 1: your what's your education background on this U that led

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Speaker 1: you to this? Do you did you go to college

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Speaker 1: or what? What's your background? Technically? No, I'm seeing that's

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. My my gift was was always creativity

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Speaker 1: as a kid, as a youth growing up, I was

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Speaker 1: that kid, right, So my mom used to buy me

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Speaker 1: Christmas toys, right, I don't care what she bought me.

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Speaker 1: I always took her apart. I mean, I just told

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Speaker 1: him myself, I don't even know this about this. I'm

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Speaker 1: girl now, but mom, sorry, but all the toys she

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Speaker 1: ever bought me, I always took him apart. I was

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Speaker 1: always interested in the way toys worked. So my gift

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Speaker 1: has always been creativity and invent My background in education

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Speaker 1: was applied science. But no, this has nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with sciences. This engineering and UH and the mechanics. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a it's a fun movie that's

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Speaker 1: on Netflix right now. Only if you called it called

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Speaker 1: a jingle jangle. The Christmas story Christmas Journey UH is

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Speaker 1: about a black inventor. You know, if you haven't watched it,

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Speaker 1: please watch it. You're gonna get get a big kick

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Speaker 1: out of it. It's just kind of reminds me of you,

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Speaker 1: a talented young man who has skills and UH and

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Speaker 1: and changing it is going to change the world. There's

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Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind that you're going to be

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Speaker 1: successful at what you do. There's no doubt in my

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Speaker 1: mind that this is a fantastic UH toy that you've created.

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Speaker 1: We call it a toy, but it's beyond being a toy.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a it's enhances your memory, enhances

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Speaker 1: your critical thinking, which is good for anything. I remember

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Speaker 1: when I was in the band. By being in the band,

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Speaker 1: it always helped my memory by being playing an instrument.

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Speaker 1: And I feel that by playing their toy, it can

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Speaker 1: help your memory, your decision makers, this decision maker, and

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Speaker 1: more importantly, it can test your i Q and get

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Speaker 1: it up there. And that's what we're all trying to

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Speaker 1: do it nowadays, especially within the black community, but just

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Speaker 1: towards not strictly for the black community, it's for the

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Speaker 1: community general. And I'm gonna thank you for coming on

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Speaker 1: my show. Corey. I appreciate that. I appreciate you having me.

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Speaker 1: Well guess what, we're gonna come back, because we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get that book out of here and I'm gonna read

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Speaker 1: on the show. Okay, no problem. I appreciate If you

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