1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: It's Frida, one of December here in London. This is 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Daybreak Hereate podcast. I'm Caroline Hepkea. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 3: And I'm Stephen Carroll. 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 4: Coming up today. Israel says the temporary Gaza ceasefire with 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 4: Hamas is over ending a week long exchange of hostages 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 4: for prisoners. 8 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Economics expects a weakening US economy to lead to 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: significant FED rate cuts next year. 10 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 4: Plus shock Therapy TESLA delivers its first cyber trucks, but 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 4: says the cheapest model will be delayed until twenty twenty five. 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. The 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: Israeli Army says that it took the decision after Hamas 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: violated the terms of the pause by firing towards its 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: territory speaking Intel Aviv. Ahead of that move, US Sectory 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: of State Anthony Blinken urged Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Ett 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: Yahoo to avoid the scale of destruction inflicted on Gaza 18 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: before the truce. 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 5: I underscored the imperative of the United States massive loss 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 5: of civilian life and displacement of the scale that we 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 5: saw at Northern Gaza not be repeated in the South. 22 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 5: As I told the Prime Minister, intent matters, but so 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 5: does the result. 24 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: Anthony Blincoln also told reporters yesterday that he was working 25 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: to extend the temporary truce to get more hostages out 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: of Gaza and more humanitarian assistance in That objective now 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: looks to have failed. In the last hour, the British 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Ishisunak renewed the UK's call for sustained humanitarian 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: pauses in Gaza. Benjamin Netanyahoo and other Israeli politicians have 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: consistently stressed that the war would resume at some point 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: and that the truce was not permanent. 32 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 4: Bloomberg Economics says next year will bring one hundred and 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 4: twenty five points of FED cuts beginning in March, as 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 4: signs of a US recession begin to appear. The team's 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: baseline forecast is for unemployment to increase through next year 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: and approach five percent by the end of twenty twenty four, 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: a mild recession by historical standards. Insignio Chief investment officer 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 4: Amedriasko said that markets are responding to the same concerns really. 39 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: Over the past several weeks. 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 6: The bomb market is clearly signaling that its attention has 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 6: shifted from inflation risks to growth and recessionary risks. And 42 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 6: you're seeing that with not only sort of the rapid 43 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 6: drop in longeration bonds in the United States, but also 44 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 6: with the market starting to price in Fed FED funds 45 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 6: cuts as early as March. In fact, at the end 46 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 6: of the day today, the market was roughly was pricing 47 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 6: in roughly fifty percent chance that the FED will cut 48 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 6: the rate by March of twenty twenty four, So this 49 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 6: is much earlier than what we had seen a couple 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 6: of weeks. 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 4: Ago, Amadriasko. There FED officials have shifted their tone in 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 4: recent days and closer to a conversation around cutting rates. 53 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 4: Markets in particular have launched onto comments by the hawkish 54 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 4: governor Christopher Waller, who this week opened the door to 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 4: trimming rates if inflation can us to fall. 56 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 2: The British Prime Minister will pledge to spend one point 57 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: six billion pounds on climate projects as he attends the 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: COP twenty eight summit in Dubai. Almost half of that 59 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: amount will be new funding, including half a billion to 60 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: tackle deforestation and three hundred million pounds for energy innovation. 61 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: The UK will also contribute forty million pounds to a 62 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: global fund to help vulnerable countries deal with more extreme weather, 63 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: and an initiative that's been unveiled at COP twenty eight. 64 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: Richie Sunak has defended his party's recent rolling back of 65 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: green policies. 66 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 7: I'm not in hoc to ideological zealots on this topic. 67 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 7: Of course, we're going to get to next zero. Of 68 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 7: course it's important. But we can do that in a 69 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 7: sensible way that saves people money. And I'm proud of 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 7: that approach. I think that's the right thing, and I 71 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 7: think that actually it's supported by the vast majority of 72 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 7: the British public. 73 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: Richie soon acts trip to COP twenty eight risks being 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: overshadowed by the opposition leader Kirs Starmer, who is also attending. 75 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: He's promising to make the UK the green finance capital 76 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: of the world. 77 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 4: The Institute of Directors says UK tax cuts won't help 78 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 4: to ease economic worries among British business leaders. The group's 79 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: economic Confidence index improved for a fifth month running after 80 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: plummeting in June when interest rates jump to five percent. 81 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 4: Finding show optimism among company bosses has returned to twenty 82 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 4: nineteen levels when leaving the European Union with a no 83 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: deal was on the cards. UK executives are still struggling 84 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: to muster enthusiasm for twenty twenty four, despite the Chancellor's 85 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: twenty billion pound tax cut package. Among their concerns are 86 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: geopolitical instability, skills shortages and climbing energy costs. 87 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: UK regulators will review a six hundred million pound UAE 88 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: linked bid for the Telegraph newspaper, but in bigsta Adebayo 89 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: has the details. 90 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: Culture Secretary Lucy Fraser has ordered a probe into the 91 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: proposed takeover of one of Britain's most famous newspapers due 92 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: to concerns about accurate reporting and free expression. Media regulator 93 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: Offcom and the Competition in Markets Authority will investigate a 94 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: deal involving the Telegraph and investment venture Redbird I am I, 95 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: which is backed by Abu Dhabi Sheik Mansur. Findings will 96 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: be published in January next year. The government can then 97 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: block the deal imposed conditions, or allow it to go through. 98 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: The Telegraph has close connections with the ruling Conservative Party. 99 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: Former Prime Ministers Boris Johnson and Winston Churchill have both 100 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: written for the paper in London, tiwa Adebayo Bloomberg Radio. 101 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 4: Tesla has finally rolled out its long awaited cyber truck 102 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: after two years of delays and production snags. Whoever, the 103 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 4: cheapest model is two years behind schedule, as the CEO 104 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: Elonmosk clemented how difficult the steel bodied vehicle is to produce. 105 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: Dan Ives, managing director at web Bush Securities, expects it'll 106 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 4: take time for Tesla's pickup truck to become profitable. 107 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: First twelve to eighteen months. 108 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 8: No, I mean they'll essentially loose money, would be cash 109 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 8: on negative, but as you get into two twenty five, 110 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 8: it actually could be pretty significant in terms of the 111 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 8: accretive level as it all plays out at scale. 112 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 4: The cyber truck marks Tesla's first entry into the highly 113 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 4: competitive pickup truck market in the US. The move has 114 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 4: been met with some excitement, but also heavy criticism and doubt. 115 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: Let's return for more details in our top story. 116 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 9: Now. 117 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 4: The Israeli Army saying it's resumed combat against Hamas in 118 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 4: the Gaza Strip after that week long truce. This is 119 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: the United States has said that Israel must not repeat 120 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 4: the scale of destruction and displacement inflicted on the northern 121 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: Gaza Strip in any further military push against Hamas. Joining 122 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 4: us now for more Paul Wallace, who leads our team 123 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: of economics and government reporters in the Middle East, Paul, 124 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 4: thank you for joining us. The fragile truce is over. 125 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: What has happened so far this morning exactly? 126 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 9: It ended at around seven am local time or am 127 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 9: UK time this morning. Almost immediately is El started bombing 128 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 9: Harmas targets in the Gaza Strip. It blamed Hermas for 129 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 9: this restart. It said that the group had violated the 130 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 9: truth that was in place for a week in total. 131 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 9: Hamas has subsequently blamed Israel and said that the US 132 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 9: also bears responsibility for giving Israel the green light for 133 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 9: hostilities to resume. It's not a total surprise that we're 134 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 9: now back in a phase of war. Israel and its 135 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 9: Prime Minister Benjamin Lettino, who have been very consistent that 136 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 9: the truce was temporary, it certainly wouldn't be permanent, and 137 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 9: that the country would not be stopped in its goal 138 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 9: of destroying Hamas and demilitarizing the Gaza Strip. 139 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: So it was pretty clear that fighting would begin. 140 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 9: It was just just a case of when, but clearly, 141 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 9: whatever happened last night and early this morning in negotiations 142 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 9: between Hamas and Israel of a hostage, they couldn't agree 143 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 9: to another extension in their truth. 144 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: It comes though, with a strong warning from the US 145 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: to do more to protect civilians. What does the plan 146 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: for that look like? How can Israel do both target 147 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: Hamas and also protect so many people in the Girlza strip. 148 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 9: This is a big question in US Secretary of State 149 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 9: Anthony Blinkin made pretty strong comments about Palestine civilians and 150 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 9: need to protect them when he spoke to Nettagno Whu 151 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 9: in Tel Aviv yesterday. He was in fact still in 152 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 9: the country when hostilities resumed. He left from Benga and 153 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 9: Airport shortly afterwards. On the face of it, the US 154 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 9: stance is the same that it backs Israel's goal of 155 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:52,479 Speaker 9: destroying Hamas, but it is making a bigger and bigger noise. 156 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: About Palestine and civilians and the need to protect them. 157 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 9: Interestingly, blinking alluded to Israeli forces moving to the south 158 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 9: of the Gods of strips, so right now they're concentrated 159 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 9: in the north, which they say is Hamasa's center of gravity. 160 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 9: But Blinkln talked about them moving south, not in a 161 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 9: way that he was saying that should happen, simply he 162 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 9: was simply saying that if Israel does move forces into 163 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 9: the south, we cannot see the same number of casualties 164 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 9: there civilian casualties as we have in the north. So 165 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 9: it seems as if, at least in the background and 166 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 9: in private, the US is increasing pressure on Israel to 167 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 9: sort of restrain its operations, but in public, Israel is 168 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 9: very much maintaining its strong stance that this war will 169 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 9: continue until Hamasa is normal. 170 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 4: What about the diplomatic efforts that have been led by 171 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 4: Katar that led to this truth being established in the 172 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 4: first place and then extended. Do we know if those 173 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: efforts are continuing. 174 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: We think they are cut. 175 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 9: I had hoped As and some other our governments had 176 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 9: also hoped that this truth would turn into something more permanent, 177 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 9: and I think even though it's broken down, we'll still 178 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 9: see negotiations taking place between Hamas and Israel, mostly channeled 179 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 9: through KATA, which has been the main mediator so far. 180 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: Hata hasn't said. 181 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 9: Anything this morning about the breakdown in this truth, so 182 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 9: we wait to see if they've got any more comment. 183 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 9: But it is possible we could see more pauses, and 184 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 9: in the last few moments British Prime Minister Rishie Sumac, 185 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 9: who's who's in Dubai for. 186 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: The copp Climate Summit, he actually. 187 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 9: Calls for further humanitarian pauses as he worded them. So 188 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 9: I think we will still see more diplomacy. And it 189 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 9: doesn't mean that this is even now that we had 190 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 9: one week of truth. 191 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: So that's it. There'll be no more stoppages and fighting. 192 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 3: It's quite possible that we will get some further down 193 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: the line. 194 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 9: They will be dependent on Hamas leasing more hostages from Gaza, 195 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 9: and it's thought to still hold about one hundred and 196 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 9: forty people. 197 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 2: Just lastly, on the tensions in the West Bank, how 198 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: severe are those currently? 199 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 9: They're rising and the territory has got more and more 200 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 9: rest of Since this war in Gaza started on October 201 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 9: the seventh, we've seen a number of Palestinians killed by 202 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 9: Jurish settlers and also by Israeli security forces. It's something 203 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 9: that Israel is worried about. It's watching. Although people talk 204 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 9: about a second front opening up on the West Bank, 205 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 9: it is important to note that there's no military force 206 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 9: in the West Bank. Quite like Hamas in Gaza. Yes, 207 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 9: Hamas does have a presence in the West Bank, and 208 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 9: there are a lot of arms among Palestinian various Palestine 209 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 9: groups in the West Bank, but it's not there's nothing 210 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 9: quite as strong as what you have with ha Mus 211 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 9: and Garza. 212 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: So if there was, if this did turn into. 213 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 9: Something more serious, it would probably be another in fight 214 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 9: there where you have an uprising of Palestinians against Israelis, 215 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 9: but probably not something like a mass sort of missiles 216 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 9: being fired toward Israeli. 217 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: Er try like you got in Gaza and at the October. 218 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 4: Okay, Paul Wallace, who runs our economics and government coverage 219 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 4: in the Middle East, thank you very much for joining 220 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 4: us this morning. 221 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: Now let's talk about the economics situation in the US. 222 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Economics Now believes that they see signs of a 223 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: typical recession having begun in October twenty twenty three, and 224 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: therefore they expect that the Fed will have enough clarity 225 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: about the downturn to then cut interest rates for the 226 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: first time in March next year. Joining us now is 227 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Opinion columist Daniel Moss. Good to have you with us. Daniel. 228 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: Earlier this week, Bill Ackman said that the Fed may 229 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: cut rates in the first quarter. Bloomberg Economics now seems 230 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 2: to agree and to that call. And obviously it's been 231 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: the main question for markets for the last few weeks. 232 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 10: It's been the main question for markets for about a 233 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 10: year now, since the Fed began scaling down from half 234 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 10: percentage point increases to twenty five basis point increases to 235 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 10: taking a little bit of a pause and now what 236 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 10: looks like a prolonged, possibly permanent pause to hikes. So 237 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 10: a year ago when people started chattering about rate cuts 238 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 10: for this year, that was off the mark. The chatter 239 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 10: is now back. It's back with a force. But what 240 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 10: gives it more credibility is that inflation is coming down 241 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 10: at a pretty significant clip. Look at PCEE, the Fed's 242 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 10: third preferred inflation measures down to three percent according to 243 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 10: the data we got overnight. You know, you're within coui 244 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 10: of an average of two percent over time. There, you're 245 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 10: not quite there, But the trend is really starting to 246 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 10: look unambiguous. 247 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: When we look at the rally that we've seen on 248 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 4: barn markets as well. Markets seem to have decided this already. 249 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: How much more difficult does that make the job for 250 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 4: central bancos. 251 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 10: It means they are unlikely to talk in ways that 252 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 10: are overtly sympathetic to that. So what you'll probably see 253 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 10: is really critical FED speakers perhaps coming away from remarks 254 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 10: and commentators saying, well, a little bit on the hawkish side, 255 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 10: a little bit, but that's because they don't want the 256 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 10: market to get carried away with pricing in too many 257 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 10: cuts too soon. I think it's also important to establish 258 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 10: what we're talking about when we talk about the FED. 259 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 10: What I'm talking about are the voices that matter, and 260 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 10: at the hinge points in policy, it's really critical to 261 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 10: understand not all FEDS beakers are equal. Keep your eye 262 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 10: primarily on the triumphant, the chair, the vice chair, and 263 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 10: the head of the New York Fed. 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