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Speaker 1: Hi everybody. I'm Tamra Judge and I'm Dan Geesling. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to our new podcast, Talking a Big Game. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Talking a Big Game.

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Speaker 2: We've come a long way Scotland.

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Speaker 1: I know we have. Last time I saw you, well,

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Speaker 1: I saw you at the reunion. Yeah, so you guys,

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Speaker 1: Dan and I are starting a new podcast called Talking

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Speaker 1: a Big Game. And there's no bigger gamer out there

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Speaker 1: than Dan Geesling.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Tamar, this has been such a unique

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Speaker 2: opportunity when it's like, hey, you can pair us together

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Speaker 2: because you bring such a unique dynamic to this. I'm

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Speaker 2: just so excited to be here with you, and I

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Speaker 2: can't wait to see when we broke, when we approach

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Speaker 2: these reality TV winners and some of our favorite personalities.

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Speaker 2: I'm just excited to see you go to work and

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Speaker 2: do your thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, we have a guest this week. It's Max from

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Speaker 1: Danzy with the Stars, who was also on The Traders

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Speaker 1: with us. So you guys, you want to know how

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Speaker 1: this happened, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: So like, how does want the iconic Real Housewives of

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Speaker 2: OC and Winner Big Brother?

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Speaker 1: How iconic Winner a Big Brother?

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Speaker 2: How do we end up on this couch together. It's

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Speaker 2: like kind of a random It is totally random.

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Speaker 1: I know you guys are thinking, what the hell is

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Speaker 1: going on? Somebody has a loss of damn mine over

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Speaker 1: there at iHeart. No, Actually, Dan and I did. He

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Speaker 1: filled in as a co host when I was recapping Traders,

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Speaker 1: and our dynamic was so good that iHeart was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I see an opportunity here.

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to rewind it back a step two

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Speaker 2: because I don't like sometimes I go off like feelings

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Speaker 2: and just sometimes I get these weird premonitions. And we

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Speaker 2: spend a lot of time together in Scotland off camera,

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Speaker 2: and like we talked a lot, but I'm just like,

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Speaker 2: at some point I just felt like we're going to

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Speaker 2: do something together. And I really don't often feel that weird.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, well, Dan and I really hit

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Speaker 1: it off when we were in Traders. When you do Traders,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of downtime. So he would talk about

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Speaker 1: his wife and his kids, and I would talk about

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Speaker 1: Eddie and we would just just kind of god to

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Speaker 1: shoot the ship. And I really thought, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Dan's my friend here. However, Dan, let me just tell

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Speaker 1: you on my way to Scotland. Some of the cast

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Speaker 1: was leaked and I was getting messages. I was being

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Speaker 1: hit up on DM saying no this, do not trust

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Speaker 1: that Dan.

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Speaker 2: Who would say that, no one, no one really knows

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Speaker 2: me from your circle.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm talking just the general public, just just followers

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Speaker 1: that I had, maybe a couple people in the press.

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Speaker 1: Watch out for that.

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Speaker 2: Dan. You'll have to tell me the names. When I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you, because what I was told was going into this.

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Speaker 2: My wife's like, if Tamer is there, you have to

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Speaker 2: be friends with her. And I'm like, I knew who

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Speaker 2: you were, but when I got to know you during

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Speaker 2: the downtime, I'm like, you're not really from the OC.

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Speaker 2: You could be from the Midwest. You just have like

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Speaker 2: you're not the typical California. You just have like you're

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Speaker 2: very warm, You're very direct, and I thought I found

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Speaker 2: that so refreshing in such a unique environment.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: No, but I mean that like no, like you you

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Speaker 2: I didn't feel like there was any there was no

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Speaker 2: gray area with you. It's like black and white. I

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Speaker 2: know where you're coming from and you're speaking your mind.

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Speaker 1: You might call me a bit, wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that, but I could see maybe some

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Speaker 2: other people would on other shows.

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Speaker 1: Well, So Dan and I did Traders, got along great

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Speaker 1: until the day that I got murdered.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about this.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it, Dan, because I don't know that

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Speaker 1: we fully talked about this.

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Speaker 2: I tried to reach out to you after the show

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Speaker 2: and you go, I go, you ghost. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 2: I guess Tamraa isn't from the Midwest. What the heck's

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Speaker 2: going on? And then like maybe a month or two later,

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Speaker 2: after the show's over, my phone start blew up twice

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Speaker 2: from a California number. I'm like, I'm not answering this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. And you were like

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Speaker 2: about to go on stage. What happened?

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Speaker 1: Yes, So we were doing a live show, Teddy and

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Speaker 1: episode that I was murdered, and I thought for sure

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Speaker 2: Why did you think I did it? Though?

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Speaker 1: Because come on, Dan, you know why because the night

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Speaker 1: before you and I were in the kitchen, which they

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Speaker 1: never showed this, this is lost footage. We were in

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Speaker 1: the kitchen and I was starting to feel better because

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Speaker 1: I had been so sick. You were pretty quiet, and

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Speaker 1: you were kind of getting a little and there's a

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Speaker 1: was quiet too, So I said, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: know Dan is a trader. I know it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go I'm gonna just talk to him and say, you

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Speaker 1: know what, why don't we team up together? And the

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Speaker 1: next day I was murdered.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but let me rewind it. So all that time

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Speaker 1: Were dming me saying that's your that's.

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Speaker 2: What you do. Well, I guess next time, trust your guy.

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Speaker 2: You're like, Dan's a nice guy.

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Speaker 1: Dan's nice.

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Speaker 2: At one point, at one point, did you know, like, hey, okay,

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Speaker 2: didn't go after me.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't you? Did you? Maybe they didn't show up,

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Speaker 1: but did you say to Faed' like no, let's not

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Speaker 2: At that point, it was like there was chaos, right,

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Speaker 2: So I'm like I they're going to kill each other,

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Speaker 2: did a horrible job doing that. You know, you eckon

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Speaker 2: to and you got yourself in a little bit. But anyways,

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Speaker 2: so so you found out, so you're watching the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, watching the show, And my assistant was with me

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing, and so for me, I'm

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Speaker 2: is that I'm it's easy to me to separate that

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Speaker 2: where the personal kind of was the game. Like I

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Speaker 2: wasn't going to go after you, but so you were

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Speaker 1: I know, I get it for things, really, but like.

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Speaker 2: That That's all it took. So what if I did

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Speaker 1: I mean no, it was a game. It was just

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Speaker 1: you know what it was is because I really liked you.

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Speaker 2: It comes from? For you? How can you do that?

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Speaker 2: I think some people have it and some people don't.

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Speaker 1: I just have it. My husband's like, you are crazy

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I just call it the asshole radar something

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I am not. So I want to learn so much

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Speaker 1: you know, in reality right now, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing I pushed back on. For you

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Speaker 2: So there's a meta game in that. So like you

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Speaker 1: Housewives is a game of chess, yes, for sure, right

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Speaker 2: For you? So for me, it was much much quicker

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Speaker 2: will I'll play the play the whole game like that.

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Speaker 2: So I knew a lot about everyone and big brother

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Speaker 2: on me. But so you identify those people. But that's

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Speaker 2: like I established long term relationships and then make the

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Speaker 2: move when I need to got it.

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Speaker 1: Now, would you go back.

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Speaker 2: To I would do Traders for sure? Would you you

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Speaker 1: I would go back to Traders because I didn't have

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Speaker 2: Wasn't six I was so sick six hours I was.

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Speaker 2: So let me this from like from your housewife community

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Speaker 2: on what you did in the whole?

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Speaker 2: But like the missis so when you went, because that's

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Speaker 2: That's like the meta game, and I think we're kind

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Speaker 2: So like to be that long the mainstay on a showing.

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Speaker 2: There's games and let's talk about it. They try to

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Speaker 1: Well they fired me.

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Speaker 2: Why.

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Speaker 1: I don't exactly know when you when you get fired?

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Speaker 2: How do you get Does Andy fire you?

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Speaker 1: No, there's no, that's not like you go into a

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Speaker 2: It was Bravo calling.

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Speaker 2: And just for context, how many years had this been?

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Speaker 1: And I said, what do you mean? Well, you can

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Speaker 2: So does that mean like you wouldn't have had like

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Speaker 1: No, I would have just been like it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just why after twelve years they have to give

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes like they want to switch it up.

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Speaker 2: Or can I ask you something?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Two questions, and I think I know that you weren't boring,

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Speaker 2: Like was did you have a boring storyline?

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Speaker 1: No? I ended my last season and the bush is crying.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Second question, they had to be paying a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that could have been it. That could have

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Speaker 1: So I thought, Okay, I have a year off. I'm

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Speaker 2: You reach out? Like did you did you? Dm Andy

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Speaker 2: be like hey, like I'm still here, like the OC

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Speaker 1: Hey No, And then I got then Andy called me

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But is there a part of you that, like I

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Speaker 2: you take shows doing well, you take me off, show

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Speaker 2: doesn't do well, you put me back on show does

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Speaker 2: well again, So what was the reasoning? Did you piss

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Speaker 1: Now? I'm very I have very good relationships with everybody

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think I've just been on for a really long time.

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Speaker 1: Nothing less forever. And I never thought about this as

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you, so, what do you think without

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Speaker 2: there's housewives that get cycled in and out there. You

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Speaker 2: see it for season two seats they're gone, but you're

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Speaker 1: I think because I'm open and I'm honest, I don't

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Speaker 2: Do you mean self produced?

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Speaker 1: They want the viewers to like them. And if that

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Speaker 2: When you get some pushback online from something you say,

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Speaker 1: I give receipts, baby, I always have received They are

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Speaker 2: So that's why I feel like, and I think it's

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like this we not unique blend of

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Speaker 2: In so a long long time ago? So when I

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Speaker 2: So I sent in a VHS tape. You know what

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Speaker 2: And you know, it took me four years to get cast.

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Speaker 2: I made to like semi finals kind of learned the casting.

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Speaker 2: No? So, like I grew up with like playing games

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Speaker 2: And so it took me four years to get cast.

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Speaker 2: I just kept sending tapes every year, and I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: Is there any other game you'd want to be a

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Speaker 2: I don't think right now. And I think that's where

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Speaker 2: already played out. But one of the shows I thought

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Speaker 1: I couldn't get into it, Like.

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Speaker 2: it was just insanity. I'm like, this is really cool

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many shows that open the door

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Speaker 2: Across Let me ask you so because I don't know

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Speaker 2: So what was there like a line at the mall

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Speaker 1: had little little kids and married to Simon, and we

440
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,720
Speaker 1: were drinking wine and she was in the house next

441
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,560
Speaker 1: to me and do you remember I am AOL semester

442
00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,360
Speaker 1: semester on your computer name? Oh my god, I can't

443
00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,840
Speaker 1: even remember. Probably something obnoxious, she said. She sent me

444
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:48,280
Speaker 1: the application and she says, hey, they're doing a casting call,

445
00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,320
Speaker 1: and I go, what. I don't even know what that

446
00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:51,600
Speaker 1: means for the Orange County.

447
00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,720
Speaker 2: Housewise my commercials and stuff.

448
00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,119
Speaker 1: Now, well you know what, Dan, thank you for asking,

449
00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,879
Speaker 1: because when I was eighteen, I did a waterbed commercial.

450
00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,440
Speaker 1: A waterbed commercial.

451
00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,520
Speaker 2: That sounds like something that would have played on Watch

452
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,000
Speaker 2: What Happens Live? Did that ever? Has that ever leaked?

453
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,640
Speaker 1: No, it's never been shown. I don't even know where

454
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,919
Speaker 1: it was. It was on a local television station in Glendora, California, Okay,

455
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 1: and I bought a water bed and then they called

456
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,639
Speaker 1: me back and said would you mind being in our commercial?

457
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's your commercial.

458
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 1: That's my extent of tea.

459
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,879
Speaker 2: So you weren't like actress? No, so what made you

460
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,879
Speaker 2: compelled to like, oh let me do this casting?

461
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,400
Speaker 1: Oh maybe in a smart ass. So my girlfriend sends

462
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,960
Speaker 1: me over the application for housewives. She goes they're doing

463
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,200
Speaker 1: a cast and call at Balbo Bay Club. I said, well,

464
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 1: I had just gott into real estate, so I'm doing

465
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,919
Speaker 1: an open house and coded cause it that day, so

466
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 1: I will not be there. But there was an online

467
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 1: application and I filled it out very obnoxious, you know,

468
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,440
Speaker 1: just said obnoxious things. Didn't send a picture, didn't send

469
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 1: anything in picture, nothing. And I got a phone call

470
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 1: the next day saying, hey, I saw your application. I'd

471
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 1: really like to interview you. And I'm like, what the

472
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 1: b And so I tell my husband at the time,

473
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,359
Speaker 1: and I thought for sure because he's very controlling, and

474
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 1: he'd be like, no, we're not doing that, Like sure,

475
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 1: call them up. I'm like okay. So I called him up.

476
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 1: They came to my house. I did an interview. They

477
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,360
Speaker 1: gave me a big stack of papers to fill out.

478
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 1: I never filled them out, never thought I had the chance.

479
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,880
Speaker 1: They called me back, They're like, did you feel Mom

480
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 1: said no, like, can we come back? We want to

481
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 1: meet your husband, kids. Okay, met the husband and kids.

482
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 2: So this play just like whatever because no one knows

483
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 2: that Housewives.

484
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,439
Speaker 1: No Housewives, well no there was. I came in season three.

485
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 2: Oh so there was two.

486
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 1: And they were kind of boring. It was very not

487
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 1: like it is today, but you know, it's what started everything.

488
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 1: And so I ultimately got cast on the show, and

489
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 1: I you know, I'm like, I don't know why you

490
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 1: want me, but here I am. And I really changed

491
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 1: Housewives as it is today. I came in feisty, calling

492
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 1: people out, and before it was a very sleepy show,

493
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 1: like just documenting like oh dinner with the girls, you.

494
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 2: Know, and yeah, I felt like I've seen like the

495
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 2: early episode.

496
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah when the day that I screamed, did you got

497
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 1: a bas leg? Everything changed?

498
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 2: So let me let me ask this. If you never

499
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 2: got that I am or that in some message, how

500
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 2: would your life be different? Like, I'm serious, have you

501
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 2: ever thought to like recollect and be like, let me

502
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,640
Speaker 2: go down this alternate world where.

503
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 1: I think about that sometimes? And I really don't know.

504
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 1: I know for sure I would have gotten divorced from

505
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 1: my kid's father. I knew that was going to happen,

506
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: but I was in real estate, and real estate was

507
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 1: great back then, so I probably would have just jumped

508
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 1: on that or but I don't know. I always thought

509
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 1: that I was destined to do something in entertainment. You know.

510
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 1: When I was little, I would dream like I always

511
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: this is really mean, but I always thought of myself

512
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: as Maryland from the Munsters, like the whole families like

513
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: look like evil characters, and Marylyn was this pretty blonde girl.

514
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: That's sorry family Carolyn, the Munsters. It was like Frankenstein

515
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 1: looking down lady with long like black hair. And then

516
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: there was you, and then there was me. And I

517
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: always felt like, you know, I always wanted bigger and better.

518
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: I always liked nice things. When I would dream, I

519
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: dreamed that I was living in a castle, like all

520
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: these things so crazy, and I don't know, I thought

521
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: that one day this mouth would get me somewhere, get

522
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: me or in jail. I wasn't sure one or the other.

523
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: And here we are today, but so many, you know,

524
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: early reality shows, and I don't even know if they

525
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: called them reality shows back then. I mean, I'm trading spaces.

526
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that when I used

527
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: to love all that house decorating shows and things like that.

528
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: I watch like early Survive Like when Survivor I did

529
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: it was like super Bowl.

530
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, watch I watched that when it first

531
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: came out.

532
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 2: Did you ever think about applying for that? Because I could,

533
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 2: I could see you on that just as like a

534
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: complete one eighties.

535
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: I think that I was too, Like I was such

536
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: a stay at home mom and my kids were so

537
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: little and close in age, and I'm like, you know what,

538
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: I just I'm happy being at home. And you know,

539
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: I was a single mom for a long time with Ryan,

540
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: so being able to just stay home and have children,

541
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: I was very content.

542
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 2: Did you going on these shows? Did it not change

543
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 2: your personality but like force you to do like night

544
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 2: life stuff when you weren't doing it?

545
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure. Like when I started the show,

546
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,239
Speaker 1: like I I had friends in the neighborhood, but I

547
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: did not go on girls trips. I did not go, hey,

548
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 1: you guys want to go to a happy hour? None

549
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: of that. I mean to be honest with you, I

550
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: don't do it now.

551
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: Well that's what was when we met. I'm like, you're like, yeah,

552
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 2: I'm kind of a homebody, Like really.

553
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not kind of I am a homebody.

554
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 1: I am a homebody. I you know, sometimes I'm like,

555
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: get yourself out, you know, go do stuff. My husband

556
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: is more wanting to go out to dinner and do things,

557
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm like, I'm good.

558
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: Do you view when you have to go, like to

559
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: that club to shoot a scene you look at that

560
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: as work, like I need to go shoot this or

561
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: is it, hey, I'm going to hang out and some

562
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: stuff it?

563
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: So you know what kind of both it's work depends

564
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: on who I have to go film with. But you know,

565
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: I have a good gig. I get paid to go

566
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: to lunch with people be yourself and be myself, so

567
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't suck at all. But yeah, where do you

568
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: think you want to Is there any shows that you

569
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: wanted beyond other than this podcast?

570
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: You know? I mean I just think like if there's

571
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: a new game that comes out that it has to

572
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: be very special. Like to me, I knew The Traders

573
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: was going to be special. I knew the cast was

574
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: going to be amazing, and it's a new fun game.

575
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: I just for me to do another show, it just

576
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: can't be the same thing over and over. And this

577
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: is like an example of like doing this, Like I

578
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 2: don't want to go do another reality TV podcast. I

579
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: just don't want to do that. But like you pair

580
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: me with you, I'm like, okay, this is unique diff

581
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: you're from.

582
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: You got the gamer in the housewife, gamer in the housewife. Now,

583
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: how long has it been since you were on Big Brother?

584
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: So last time I was on Big Brother was twenty

585
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: twelve and so but since then, like probably every year,

586
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: every other year, I would get pitched a reality show

587
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 2: where there's amazing race, you know something.

588
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I just like I tried out

589
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: for amazing race.

590
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: Good, yeah, me my amazing race and that survivor or

591
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: Big Brother.

592
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: Well it just kind of fell on our laps and

593
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: Teddy and I were going to do it together. So recently, yeah,

594
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: this is like two years ago, I think, and we

595
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: went through the entire process and they did not pick us.

596
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: Really no, was it conflict of interest or I don't know.

597
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: We never got a reason why. I probably passed. I

598
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: didn't pass a psych evaluation. I'm just kidding.

599
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: That would be great TV. Is there has there ever

600
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: been a when you do something like that, like because

601
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: I know Bravo and Peacock are aligned. Yeah, if you do,

602
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: can you do stuff outside of that?

603
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: We have to get permission. And I do have Amazing

604
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: Race carved out of my contract because I had talked

605
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: to them after that and they were interested in having

606
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: me and Eddie do the show together.

607
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: Cool.

608
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: I probably would have felt more comfortable doing it with

609
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: Eddie because some of that stuff that you have to

610
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: do in a foreign country, like I'd rather have a man,

611
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: and Teddy's just not manly enough. I mean, I know

612
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: she has that deep voice, but she's just not masculine

613
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: enough for me.

614
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: Is Andy the Kingsmaker? Is he the one that signs

615
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: off me like yep, tam, or you can do this

616
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 2: or no?

617
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: Probably really yeah? Probably over at Bravo, they're the ones

618
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: that sign off. So we have then we have a

619
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: production company, and then.

620
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: He's got He's probably an interesting story how he like

621
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: worked his way up, like he runs that network.

622
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: I know he's a he's a very busy man, not

623
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: to mention he's got podcasts and radio shows, but.

624
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: Talk about gamesmanship. There's like to work your way up

625
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: to the head of a company that isn't like like,

626
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure he likes you know that he was on.

627
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: Got Sex in the City. He was he was on

628
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: Sex in the City. Yeah, it was like that's to

629
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: this day him and Sarah Jessica Park are really good friends.

630
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: But was that before he was like Andy Cohen.

631
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: Yes, he was like very very young. He had this

632
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: big head of curly hair and he was I can't

633
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: remember what he did because.

634
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: First time I saw m he hosted this it was

635
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: just I mean it was called Battle of the Network

636
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: Stars and they brought these reality TV personalities together for

637
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: this competition show and it was like super low budget.

638
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: But I think he hosted it. And that was like

639
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: right around the time when Bravo turned from like you know,

640
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: like Bravo was boring before. Yeah, and then it was

641
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: like he'd.

642
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: When they had just career ire for the straight Guy

643
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: or something like that. Very yeah, yeah, Tabitha's takeover something

644
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: like that. Well, there's so many amazing reality competition shows

645
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: out there, and we want to talk to every single contestant.

646
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: Now Big Brother is airing right now, right, yes, yes,

647
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: now are you watching?

648
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: So this is probably going to rub some people the

649
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: wrong way, but who better to be on a couch

650
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: with rubbing people the wrong way? Here's my take on

651
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: Big brother Big Brother has become. When I played it,

652
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: it was like the nicest person didn't win, Like it

653
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: was just whoever played hard. There would be like people.

654
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: Crying over didn't you win? But you step in your.

655
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 2: But like so, so that's how it used to be,

656
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: and I don't want to be this like, oh it

657
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: used to be this way. But now it's like they're

658
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 2: on camera twenty four to seven, so people are hyper

659
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: aware of everything they say and they do. So now

660
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: it's like they're playing two games. They're playing the social

661
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 2: media game. Yeah, and then so that will impact how

662
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: people make moves in the house. So like, well, I

663
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 2: don't want to go after Tammer because I know everyone

664
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: on social media is gonna love tamor well guess what

665
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 2: if the right move is to go after you, that's

666
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: the right move. And so I've seen like the game

667
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: and it's I think it was just inevitable with the

668
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: rise of social media. It's like you have people who

669
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: go on there to play, like probably like housewives play

670
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: to the cameras. They're not there to play the game.

671
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: They're not there to be real like people love you.

672
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: I like watching you because like now I see it

673
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: like you're on TV, that's who you are in real life.

674
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: I don't want to see like, you know, robots and

675
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: fake people and so so.

676
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: You feel like it's just a little bit too fake now.

677
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just think it's it's no one's fault

678
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 2: you're not watching. No, I'll watch the finale because to me,

679
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: that's always like someone busted their tail for an entire.

680
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: Summing and it's no longer. They were doing celebrity. Yeah,

681
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: our very own teddy.

682
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah what she say about it? What did she?

683
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: She was very sure she got kicked off. She's very opinionated,

684
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: and I think that's one of those things where they're like, okay,

685
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: get on. Yeah, so she we were kind of bombed.

686
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: I was the first time I ever really watched Big Brother.

687
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: I had a viewing party, you know, because I couldn't

688
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: talk to her. Yeah, they take your phone away.

689
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you have nothing, no phone Internet. It's like

690
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it is. I would love to see you

691
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: in that environment because the walls come in very quickly.

692
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: Like very you're actually on a set, right, you're a

693
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: closed set, and do you get to go outside?

694
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: There's like an outdoor, but imagine this is it and

695
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: they're like the ceilings cut out.

696
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was. I just did pressed the

697
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: other day and I don't remember what studio is at,

698
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: but it was where they were filming Big Brother, and

699
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: they were saying that they have to put higher screens

700
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: around the outside area. That's right. They had to put

701
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 1: these big, dark screens because there was a housing department

702
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: on the either side, and they would scream down and

703
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: give it away.

704
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: People are not Yeah, people are us. People fly like

705
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: planes over they'll like rent a plane or pay for

706
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: a plane with a message, and holy hell. The thing

707
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: I always loved about Big Brother is there was always

708
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: a wide diversity of house guests from age everything. And

709
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: I feel like the past couple of years and I

710
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: think this year, like they put an older woman on there,

711
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: which I think makes it more fun.

712
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: Older like my age, you're young, you're in your form,

713
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: but like no I'm not.

714
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: But like it got to like, okay, here's twenties, the thirties,

715
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: but the hits makers the entertainers were like the crazy

716
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: like sixty year old lady, the seventy eight year old

717
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 2: dude losing his mind. I mean, so it's just it

718
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: kind of got away from that so we'll see. I mean,

719
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: it's I think the show is so dependent on the cast,

720
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: and I think if you can get a cast in

721
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: there that doesn't care about social media, that's when it's

722
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: great television.

723
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: Is there any newer competition shows that you're watching, Like

724
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: there's like a House of Villains.

725
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: I watched the one that really grabbed me outside of

726
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: Traders with Squid Games, because it's just something new. It's like,

727
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: I love the show. So there's a fiction show about

728
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: these people fighting for their lives and the winner got

729
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: four million dollars and then they recreated that almost like

730
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: scene for scene.

731
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: But four million dollars is worth fighting for, I know.

732
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: But like, but you got to think, like a typical show,

733
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: you see like fifteen twenty people competing. They had like

734
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: hundreds of people on a show, and I'm like, this

735
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: is new, this is cool that there's this competition where

736
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: there's this glass bridge and like one step, one block,

737
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: like shatters you fall thirty feet the next magic of television.

738
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: But so you see these people like Tammer, you go

739
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: first know you and it's like that's what I want

740
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: to see. I want to see people in these like

741
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: tough environments having to make game decisions. And I think

742
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: a lot of these games, like even Big Brother and Survivor,

743
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: it's been on for so long so people know exactly

744
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: what to expect. We're like something like Traders, We're kind

745
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: of like figuring it out now. I would expect the

746
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: next season of Traders, people are going to know, Okay,

747
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: here's how Dan messed up. Let me not do that.

748
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things. No, we had, you know,

749
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: Suri and like the Civilians in the first season, like

750
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: they didn't know what they were doing. You know. No.

751
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: I like it that it's all celebrity people that's on it.

752
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 2: Which can we randomly talk about? You and Deontay are

753
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: from the same hometown? I know?

754
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: Is that crazy? Who knew that Deontay lives in Glendora, California,

755
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: where I grew up. I was like when I met

756
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: him for the first time, I'm like, oh, where are

757
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: you from? He's like Glendor. I'm like, no, you're not.

758
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: You're so bizarre because I was there. I'm like, what,

759
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: let's talk.

760
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: About Johnny Bananas?

761
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: He does he not like you? Well, I'm okay, I'm cool,

762
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna tell you this. This is what I heard,

763
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: so here's like tea for everyone, and I'm sure that's tea.

764
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: But I heard he was supposed to be in season three,

765
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: and you you know that I did to the little

766
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: like you know him as much as I know me,

767
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: maybe no more. This dude lives for reality TV, like

768
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: this is his life.

769
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: And his career. He's a career reality TV competition.

770
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: So then I heard he's not doing it, and I'm like,

771
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: I dug a little bit. I asked him, like why

772
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: isn't he doing it? And so, I mean, that's just

773
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: he didn't expect it. So I reached out to him like, hey,

774
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: like are you okay, because for him not to do that,

775
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, you're not breathing oxygen. And he never

776
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: spinned him. I was genuinely just wanted to do yeah,

777
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: I guess, but I wanted to check out him because

778
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: like if someone not doing their favorite things, well, he

779
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: just DMed.

780
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: Me and said we need to get together soon. So

781
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: he lives pretty close to me. Okay, he lives in

782
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: Fuller ten, so he lives pretty close.

783
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't take it personal, you know, I like.

784
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: I but I feel like somebody like him that is

785
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: like a career competitor.

786
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: I guess you call him.

787
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: He takes things very serious and I don't remember what

788
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: your guys beef was.

789
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: No, he was just mad that I voted him out

790
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: or that I took him out first. That was it.

791
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: I didn't like slander him, But.

792
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: I think if he went back to Traders, I think

793
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: it would happen again, probably because people would be afraid

794
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: of him because he's so good at what he does.

795
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, if someone spends their whole life

796
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: doing the same thing over and over again, Like, why

797
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: do I want to go up against someone? Why do

798
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: you want to go against someone who's been doing this

799
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: for fifteen years in a row.

800
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: EMCT he made it all the way to the end.

801
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm surprised somebody didn't get rid of him. I didn't

802
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: know you're worried about me, little sick me.

803
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: I knew who CT was. I didn't know he was.

804
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: He was like considered the babe Ruth of the challenge.

805
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. That was just like a really

806
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: dynamic and.

807
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: Johnny been working together for years. So no, you're gonna

808
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: say that Bananas won't be on our podcast anytimes.

809
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: No, I would love to talk. I have no And

810
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: that's the thing like to me, like I will play

811
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: like if we're playing Monopoly, you're gonna hate me in

812
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: the game. I'm gonna do everything I need to. But

813
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: when it's over, like, I'm cool. I just want to

814
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: talk about like do people other housewives come to you

815
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: and be like, Okay, help me, let me ask you

816
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: Just has anyone ever and any housewife I could be

817
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: on any season come to you and be like, hey,

818
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 2: what do you think? What can I do? Yes?

819
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens all the time. Usually what happens is

820
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: a first season housewife will reach out to me and say,

821
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: you know, I really love you. You've been on the

822
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: show for a long time. Do you have any advice

823
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: for me?

824
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: How do you will? You can? I can? I guess

825
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: how you take that? I bet you you're flattered and

826
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: then you actually really genuinely try to help them.

827
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: I do absolutely, let me ask before you answer.

828
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: What you say to what other people on your cast?

829
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: Do that? No?

830
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: No, no?

831
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: And I do that to almost every new cast member

832
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: that comes on the show. I will tell them like listen,

833
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, just be yourself, don't lie, you know, just

834
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: be authentic, be open and you're gonna be fine. That's

835
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: all you can do. And if you're they don't find

836
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 1: you interesting enough, then it's not that bad being normal.

837
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: It's not that bad, you know, don't worry about it.

838
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: Is that? Like is that the kiss of death though,

839
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: is if they don't like you or if they don't

840
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: remember you for sure? So yeah, So when you say that,

841
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: isn't there an element of like be yourself but like

842
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 2: you can do this to be memorable? Yeah?

843
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, But you know, when new people come

844
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: into this, they there the show's been on for so

845
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: long that they're like, I don't know what I'm supposed

846
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: to do. Or they come in and go, well, I'm

847
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: going to do what this girl did and I'm going

848
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: to act like that and I'm going to be this,

849
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: and they already have it all planned out in their head,

850
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, And and that doesn't work. We don't want

851
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: somebody that's prerehearsed coming in and scram everything up for

852
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: the show. So I have to ask you a question,

853
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: what do you think the secret to success in life is?

854
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a very personal question. So I

855
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: will give my answer, but I want to hear your

856
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 2: answer to me, I feel like success is doing what

857
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: you want as much as you humanly possibly can. You know,

858
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: So for me, what does that mean? That means I

859
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: get to control my schedule. I get to be part

860
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: of cool projects and do things that I like while

861
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: also being present for my children and my wife and

862
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: being able to do all that you know, coach little league,

863
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: do that stuff. That's success for me? What is success

864
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: for me?

865
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I also want to say, like,

866
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: to me, success is not measured by how much money

867
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: you have in your bank, or what kind of car

868
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: you drive, what kind of you know job you have.

869
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: I think success is doing something that you really really

870
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: enjoy doing every single day and having just being happy

871
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: and having a loving family and all those things. Money

872
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: comes and goes. Don't even care about that, you know.

873
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to be like, oh, but you know,

874
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm a social climber and I'm successful. I don't buy

875
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: into that stuff.

876
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: When you say getting to do what you love to

877
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: do every day, what does that mean for tamor like,

878
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: what do you love to do for me? Like?

879
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: You know, I I didn't go to college out of

880
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: high school. I got my manicuring license. I did nails.

881
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: Then later in life, I got my real estate license,

882
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: so it's always looking for something to do when I

883
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: and I did that because I love houses, I love

884
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: decorating houses, I love everything to do with it. So

885
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: every day that I was selling houses, I enjoyed it.

886
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: Then when I got on reality TV, I had no

887
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: idea what I was getting myself into, but I really

888
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, and I really liked it, and I really

889
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: liked that I had a set schedule that you know,

890
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: these days are months I'm in a film, this is

891
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do press, and you know, then I do

892
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: this and then we have a few months off and

893
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: I do it all over again. I was able to

894
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: be with my kids for the majority of time. I

895
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: didn't have to get up at six and the Moe

896
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: drive to work and be gone all day long and

897
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: miss everything and come back. So I that to me

898
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: was a success because I was able to be there

899
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: for my children, for my husband and all that. Just

900
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: hard working and happiness really, you know, and.

901
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: You have a lot going on. You have a CBD company,

902
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: you have a million podcasts, you have the two houses,

903
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: I know million You talk about at some point the

904
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: house that you've fixed up because it plays into what

905
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: you're just talking about. So it sounds like for you,

906
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: what you love to do is like if you see

907
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: something you want to do, whether it's a company you

908
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: want to start, podcasts, a house you want to renovate,

909
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: you just have the capacity to do that when you

910
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: want to do it.

911
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have the drive to do it for me, like,

912
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: if I put my mind to do something, I'm going

913
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: to do it, and I'm going to do I'm going

914
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: to kill it. And I have and of course I've

915
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: had failures, but your failures are what teaches you to

916
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: be stronger and to keep going. And I feel like,

917
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, for this girl that didn't end up going

918
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: to college, I'm doing pretty damn well. Although my youngest

919
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: daughters like, mom, why do I have to go to college?

920
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: You didn't go to college, And look at.

921
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 2: You, I mean, what do you say that.

922
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: I said, listen, you're right, You're absolutely right, And I'm

923
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: not forcing my child to go to college. I said,

924
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: I think that. Well, I let her take a gap

925
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: year and she's like, oh, this sucks, like and I said,

926
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's not fun to adult. So I if

927
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: I were you, I would take the opportunity to go

928
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: to college. You got four years your brother living his

929
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: best life. I'm paying his rent. You know, he's over

930
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: there in Fullerton, cal State Fullerton. He just actually graduated.

931
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: And you know, living you learn a lot that way.

932
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: You just learn just basic life skills.

933
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to get sentimental here on you, But

934
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: do you think there'll be a day when you're like,

935
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: this is it? This is my last season. I'm going

936
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: to like do you want to call your shot when

937
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: you go out?

938
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah?

939
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: You do? Yeah, like the farewell tour, like this is it?

940
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: Like do you think do you think you'll hit a

941
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: point where you're like, Okay, I'm done, or do you

942
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: think you want to go until No.

943
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: I think that there's going to be a day that

944
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: I'm going to be done. I don't want to be

945
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: sixty years old and fighting with women on a reality show.

946
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: But I also think that I've been on reality for

947
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: so long that stuff is just going to come my way. Anyways,

948
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: even if I were to go, and who knows, like

949
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: nothing's promised, I could lose my job next season and

950
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: I would be perfectly fine. I've already had the firing

951
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: a couple of years back that you know what it sucked,

952
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: but once you get hurt like that, it just never

953
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: stings the same again.

954
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: But I think that's what makes you such an iconic

955
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: reality TV personality, is like you don't have to have

956
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: this right like you. I think you see people on

957
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: TV and competition shows are like they have to, like

958
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: they're so desperate and like it comes off as like inauthentic,

959
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: like when you say like I'm good tomorrow, like I

960
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: think everyone listening myself include believes it, like you've had

961
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: a great.

962
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: I've had a great run. I mean I was saying

963
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: I want to quit any time standards. I don't get

964
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: the kid. I'm not putting that message out there, but

965
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: I think when the day comes, like I'm going to

966
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: live a really happy life because at the end of

967
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: the day, I have a really happy life and I

968
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: have a really good life, and I'm very busy, and

969
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: you know, we're in the middle of doing a new

970
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: new business, so self defense business. It's basically what it

971
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: sounds like.

972
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: It's we go.

973
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: It's mostly run by simulations, so they will teach you

974
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: like virtual like virtual so it is it has tacticals

975
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: involved in it, although there's no guns, but there's they're

976
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: not actual real guns.

977
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: What is tactical like a fake gun?

978
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: It's gone just tactical just a I.

979
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: Don't know, elain like a BB gun. Is it like?

980
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: No, it's actually you go into a room. They're going

981
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: to give you different scenarios on the screen where you

982
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: are taught to carry a firearm and what the proper

983
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: way of doing that. And you go into the screen

984
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: and you can be a situation you're getting carjacked, or

985
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: you're getting you're in a shooting in the mall or

986
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: anything like that teaches you things that you would never

987
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: probably ever experience, but you could nowadays. There's the just

988
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: a self defense part where they were you're being taught

989
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: to defend yourself, not like full jiu jitsuything like that,

990
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: but the basics.

991
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: Have you gone through it?

992
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I've gone through it? If like yeah, But it's

993
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: like a membership base where you go a couple of

994
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: times a week where you learn, like I'm putting my

995
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: daughter through it. I want to put my son. He's

996
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: fighting me on it, but I want to put my

997
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: son through it just because you know, there's a woman

998
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: the other day that was at the mall elderly woman

999
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: and she was robbed from from behind and then killed

1000
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: and there's just techniques that you can learn that might

1001
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: have saved her life. And it's it's just an amazing concept.

1002
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, it's kind of like a video game.

1003
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: How did that's real? Quick? How did that's like? Where

1004
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: did that come from?

1005
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: We were approached by these people, this this guy. I

1006
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: don't know both of them. I knew one and we

1007
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: were talking. I go, oh my god, I'd really want

1008
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: to invest in something like that. And he's like, well,

1009
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: I brought the rights for all of California, so if

1010
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: you want to get in it, and so we said, yep,

1011
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: let's do it.

1012
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: That's exciting. Yeah, that's very cool.

1013
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's another video game of life, trying

1014
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: to stay alive, Stay Alive.

1015
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: We kind of talked about it, but I'm going to

1016
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: I want you to get specific. So you've made a

1017
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: name for yourself, right, like like if you close, if

1018
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: I close my eyes and I think of housewives, I

1019
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: see you in like maybe two or three others, and

1020
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like a passive you know, like Bravo fan.

1021
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: Like I would say, like like.

1022
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: When you're passing in the hallway and your wife has

1023
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: it on.

1024
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, like yeah, like I'm like a normy, Like I'm

1025
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: not going to bravokon and things like that. You know,

1026
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: So what do you think has made you stand out

1027
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: over the other people that have come and gone, come

1028
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: and gone, Like I guarantee like when you when you

1029
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: go to Bravo Khan, like you're one of the people

1030
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: that you don't need a name. Everyone knows who you are,

1031
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: whether they watch OC or not.

1032
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: I think I think my Ranas really captures people and

1033
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: saying what most people are thinking but they don't have

1034
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: the balls to say it, and calling out people when

1035
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: they are lying. And you know, and I'm not afraid

1036
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: of making an ass out of myself. You know, you've

1037
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: seen me drunk on TV.

1038
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: Any moments like that you're maybe proud of or not

1039
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: proud of that have like stood.

1040
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: Oh, there's a ton of like what well, I mean,

1041
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, there was a bathtub scene I'm not very

1042
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: proud of. But there's also scenes like you know, my

1043
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: granddaughter was born on camera. I was baptized on camera.

1044
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: I was proposed to on camera. I got married on camera.

1045
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: You know, I have like Eddie's grandma that's ninety eight

1046
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: years old right now, was on camera and you know

1047
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: she's not going to be around for much longer and

1048
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: we have her, you know, yeah, on camera.

1049
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: So there's a there's a lot about any one liners

1050
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: or like famous sayings, like we were talking about one

1051
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 2: in the holidays, Judge. Yeah, I'd asked my wife what

1052
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: the story was that.

1053
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've had quite a few. I mean

1054
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: one of my favorites is is you're ass jealous of

1055
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: the shit that comes out of your mouth? And the

1056
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: girl responded yes because she didn't know what I was

1057
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: talking about.

1058
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: Was that premeditated or was that on the spot? Like

1059
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: had you thought of that line before?

1060
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: I had thought I had heard that line before. And

1061
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: there's just one girl that was just so full of

1062
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: shit and she was just talking. I'm like, oh my god,

1063
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: this is a perfect opportunity. That's my opinion. Was something

1064
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: that I never thought would be as popular as it is.

1065
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: Just never seems to go away. But but you know,

1066
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: there's always stuff that's coming out of my mouth that

1067
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: is it keeps on going, It just keeps on going.

1068
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: Well down. It was so great to catch up and

1069
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: to finally get this podcast off the ground. We have

1070
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: been struggling. The last time you came out we were

1071
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: supposed to do I got sick, And now here we are.

1072
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: I am so excited. I hope that we're going to

1073
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 1: be able to do a little recap on Traders as well,

1074
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's going to be coming out soon.

1075
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: I'm so so excited. People love Traders. It's up for

1076
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: an Emmy.

1077
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: Awesome. I know, good job.

1078
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't do much.

1079
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: You're a part of the catch. No, I'm excited. I

1080
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: think we have a lot of great guests coming through.

1081
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: I think I am just so excited to get a

1082
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: chance to talk to them, but also see your perspective

1083
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: on some of these reality TV winners that you may

1084
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 2: not be familiar with. And I want to see how

1085
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: you approach him, because we're just coming at this from

1086
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Speaker 2: two very different angles, Oh for sure. And I like,

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Speaker 2: I always love having a front seat to like fireworks

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Speaker 2: in great entertainment, and I think I think that's coming

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Speaker 2: down the road happening.

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Speaker 1: So you guys tune in. We're going to have our

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Speaker 1: first guest, which is Max w was on Traders with

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Speaker 1: us and dancing with the stars. We'll see you soon.