WEBVTT - Andy Buckley 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:14.320 I'm Andy Buckley and I've played David Wallace on the Office. 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:22.000 Hello everybody, and welcome back to another exciting episode of 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:25.759 the Office Deep Dive. I am your host Brian Baumgartner, 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.840 and this week we are coming at you with somebody 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.960 that you have all been waiting to hear from. I 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:36.080 cannot wait to get started. Today's guest is a man 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:41.120 who means business. And I mean he really means business. 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:46.000 Not only was he the CFO of dunder Mifflin, which 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:49.600 was arguably the greatest and most successful paper company, maybe 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:53.520 even any company of all time, but as a real 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:58.520 human person, he was moonlighting as a stockbroker for Merrill 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:02.440 Lynch the entire run of the show. Yep, you guessed it. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:09.040 The genius who brought suck It into our lives Andy Buckley, 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:13.039 who also happens to be one of the treasured members 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:17.720 of our Office fantasy football team, who last week lost 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:22.560 by one point to MOA because I had Austin Ekeler 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:28.160 thanks to Rain Wilson, who dominated on Monday Night. So Andy, 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:32.759 suck it now. Andy came onto the show a little 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.720 bit later. In fact, he referred to himself as a 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.399 distant cousin of the cast for the first several seasons 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.000 he was on board, but he really grew to have 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.840 a special place in our hearts and the hearts of 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:51.080 the people back in Scranton, Pennsylvania. To this day, if 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.080 you run into Andy on the street, you might come 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:59.840 away with a special office themed surprise. Hint, hint. And 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.400 he has gone on to do so many big things, 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:07.480 from Jurassic World to Shameless and Veep, but he credits 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:12.399 it all to his time on the office. So from 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:17.160 the mean streets of Finance to the not so mean 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:21.400 streets of Scranton, get ready to hear from the boss 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:26.360 of the world's best boss, the master of dead Pan, 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:37.120 Andy Buckley. Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeak, 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:43.920 Bubble and Squeaker cookie every month, left over from the 0:02:44.080 --> 0:03:00.200 night before. Wow, how are you great? Good to see you. Ye, 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.760 good to see you. You know I wore my finest 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:06.000 There it is, you know under Mifflin. I'm not I'm 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.080 not playing around. You're not playing the owner of this company. 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:14.440 You want you are the last we left? Oh? Sit there, yes, 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.080 I will tell you. Have the fun I like to 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:19.840 put them on. Oh my god, Yeah, this is how 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.120 people get in trouble. They they think it's you know, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.480 and then they say some thing they shouldn't say, and 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.080 then their career is over. Well, that's what I'm trying 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:34.840 to make happen for you. Hey, Alex, Alex, Hello, sir Alex, 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:41.680 I haven't seen your coat today. It's very are you cold? Well, 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.520 that's how Brian likes it, you know, That's how Audrey 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:53.120 Hepburn liked it. Catherinehipburn all the headburns. Catherine Hepburn like this, Yeah, 0:03:53.600 --> 0:04:00.200 is that? Does that feel good? See? There you go? 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:06.600 There would be no here's the thing. Oh, I've gotten 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.720 people to say way worse than I'm sure. Yeah, how 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:14.600 are you? I'm great? Having five got picked up, which 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.240 is good. You got a job? Baby? There you go? 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.560 Where film across the pond? As they say in London, 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:26.480 like I'll move to I'll be in London for five months. Wow. 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:31.119 And Gabe is on it a ka Zach Woods, um great? 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.680 Can we swear? Yeah? We can say whatever we want. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.560 It's so funny. I took a couple of notes of 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:40.839 like funny things. But it's then it reminds me of 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.960 the It was one of the last episodes it was 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.679 the opening teaser. I come in and I'm like, really 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.240 pissed at Jon Favreau directed, I'm really pissed at ed 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.760 because you were on a fucking boat for three months. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.920 We did it three, I don't know, four or five times. 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:02.200 Everybody says great, fine, good um, and I said more 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.160 more and so like we did it like three or 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:09.120 four more times. I'm saying this, motherfuck are you fucking 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.400 like I was Tony soprano or something like that, and uh, 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.080 and you know, ultimately Greg said, now we we you 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.600 can't like we can't, you know, you're it doesn't make sense. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.760 It doesn't match what like the character was. But it 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.960 was like Kate Flair, remember the time she walked and 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.039 she said, what the hell is going on? Because like 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:27.880 they walk in and they just they don't know what's good. 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:34.760 They just hear this explore almost it's just right, oh 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:40.840 my god. Um so you let's let's rewind. Yeah, before 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.000 you started on the office, that was our warm up. 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.240 What were you doing? I was born in Boston, No, 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:50.400 so you were You were born in Marblehead, Massachusetts. Yeah, 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.560 at the Salem Hospital. But I'm from marble Head, Massachusetts. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.200 So many of us from the marble Head, the Massachusetts area, 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:02.000 the Kip pack, the smack pack exactly, and now yes, 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.240 I got. I went to college, moved to New York, 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.440 studied acting, moved to l a meandered around. Didn't like 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:12.159 set the world on fire. But not only did I 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.480 do a Melrose Place, I did a Caroline in the city. 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.440 So there you go, check it out. I did a 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:21.359 silk Stockings. I was voted. I was voted the worst 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.720 acting in the history of silk Stockings. So like, that's 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:30.120 that's pretty that's me coming. I was horrible. Was your 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:37.839 actually the Razzies for but god, I was terrible? But 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.000 um yeah, no that I actually like packed in acting 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.280 and started working to Mary Lynch. I was a stockbroker. 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.440 Wait wait, so you stopped acting. Well, it's not like 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.600 I was doing much of it, but I officially said 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.279 all right, said I gotta get a come up with 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.920 a job. Or my wife, who was my girlfriend at 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.560 the time, said, Buckley, come up with the job. This 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:01.760 is ridiculous, your your life is ridiculous. So was you know? 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.679 I stumbled into Merrill Lynch and there was an actor 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.359 I knew who worked there, and he said, hey, come on, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.760 interview and uh, and you know, they they hired me, 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.960 they were kind enough to hire me. I'm pleasant experience. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.280 I had no experience, but yeah, I'm reasonably reasonably smart 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:21.000 and I you know, and I'm seemingly trustworthy, and you know, 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.800 I was a great golfer, you know, like just very important. 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:26.720 They I think they thought, Okay, this guy, I'll be 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:28.800 able to bring in some clients. So that was it. No, 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.440 So I was I was there, I was doing that 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.120 and I actually I loved it. I mean I I 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.840 stayed at Merrill Lynch in Century City is where the 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:38.080 office was um throughout the whole run of the show. 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.040 The last season is when I finally left, like halfway 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.080 through the very last season. So that's what I was doing. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.040 In four and a half years into that, I had 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.960 run into Alison Jones. She'd be my patron saint. She's 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.600 completely changed my life for the good, for the for 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.400 the great. And uh, I ran into at the local 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.720 farmers market where we're in the living the same neighborhood. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.520 C what are you doing. I got I'm a stockbroker, 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:07.040 like I'm I'm married, I got a kid name. Apparently 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:10.080 I've grown up. And she Uh's like, all right, we'll 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:11.800 give me your card just in case something comes up. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.040 Who knows, you know, I said, okay. And my wife 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.800 is an acting coach and has become like a pretty 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:19.560 soft after ic caon coach. But she had started her 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.840 class and I was going to her class. So I 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.520 had started to like fall back in love with acting 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.760 and for the right reasons and really was loving doing it. 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.400 And it was, you know, small class. So then Alison 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.920 calls me five months after I saw her on the 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:35.560 thing or four and a half months something like that, 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.800 and says, Okay, Bucky, you should I can't believe I 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.520 found your card, but I'm glad I did. You should 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.160 come in. I think you're the right guy. He's the CFO. 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.959 Do you watched the office like yeah, Kevin Mullins incredible. 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.040 Um and uh. And so I go in and I 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:51.880 sit there and I'm waiting in the in the room 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.240 like I duck over from my office, you know, like 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.080 Centry City. Okay, so wait, wait what You're at Merrill 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.040 Lynch and you're taking acting classes from your wife just 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:05.720 because she had started Nancy Banks, great Nancy Banks. Yeah, 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.800 she had like seven people in her class. I'm like, oh, 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:09.760 I'll be the eighth. It will be an even number 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:13.840 of scenes. It's funny, like the two guys in the class, 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:18.200 we're me and Channing Tatum and so no, nobody, of 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:22.000 course wanted to do scenes with me. The teacher's husband, 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:28.400 who's the who's the hot you know? Um, yeah, she's been, 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:32.360 she've been. She's been working with him since before like 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.320 anybody knew him. And he's as lovely as as can be. 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.800 But yes, so I'm doing that. And so Allison calls 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.320 you and says, come in, but you're doing that because 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.520 you you are just liking it, You're falling in love 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:45.960 with acting exactly. Yeah, which was I mean, that's what 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:47.920 I wanted to do from the time I saw my 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.439 first James Dean movie when I was fifteen or whatever, 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.720 and thought I'd be you know, the brooding heartthrobber or whatever, 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:59.959 brooding confused teenage kids. And and I'm just a brooding, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.760 confused adult, uh, you know, fifty year old man and 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.000 uh but no, so I go. But it was funny. 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:09.080 I'm sitting in the waiting room and then all the 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.120 actor Why am I look at all these guys? These 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.880 I mean, you know, and then and then Chip Eston 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:19.080 is there also auditioning. I'm like, gosh, ship, there's there's 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.040 Chip like and he's the guy for the folks at 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.319 home and played Josh Porter and in my head and 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.280 think they're gonna hire him, Like what am I doing here? 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:28.199 This is ridiculous, Like he's great. And then to bake 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:32.720 matters worse for the negative actor had Rain pops his 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.400 head into the waiting room and he and Chip are buddies, 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.160 and he says, hey, good you're here. Great. Look I 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.960 also told them you should read for this other part. 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.280 Luckily because he's gonna do I don't know, a bunch 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.839 of episodes, just an existent one off. So then Rain 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.440 says this in front of you. Well he pulled him aside. 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.480 I just happened to be sitting close and I don't 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.880 think everybody else started. I just like it wasn't like 0:10:55.880 --> 0:11:01.120 he broadcasting across the room. But uh like okay. So 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.760 then I go in and it's Allison and Michael Shure 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.880 and old Mikey can tremendous and I do the scene, 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.040 do the second scene, feel good about it? And Michael's like, 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.800 now wait, now you're you're like a financial guy, right, 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:19.080 you're that's what you're doing, like, yeah, you know a Meryl, Yeah, 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.280 that's what I'm and I'm a Marylynch guy. And he's 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.199 like okay, okay, good. And then the next day Alison 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:25.959 calls me and says, all right, they're gonna hire you Buckley. 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:27.800 They're gonna give you a glasses, maybe gray your hair 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.079 a little bit. And that was it, and it was 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:33.920 like it was awesome. Wow. Yeah. And at that point, 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:35.839 did you you thought it was just one episode? I 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:37.680 thought it was one episode. I mean, it was so 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.560 fun and Greg directed that episode and um, and it 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.599 was so great that it was. I just loved it. 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.400 I mean I remember the first scene that we did 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.240 was the conference room scene and I would do it 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.520 and then he would come up and he would say okay, 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.280 and he would just like whisper in your ok try 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.160 you know, try it whatever the suggestion was. And it 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.360 was awesome and that'll be fun. Maybe I'll get to you, like, 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.360 you know, one a year or something like that. And 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.040 then I really started to think, oh man, I may 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:08.199 be on this a fair amount. After we hired Ryan 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:12.199 to work in corporate. So to answer your question, I 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:18.040 was a stockbroker. Well, it's it's interesting to me because 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.560 it's the same thing with Phillis, Like Phillis was a 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:26.360 casting associate, right, who just read naturally with the people 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:30.360 who were involved and and yeah, so it's interesting that 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.880 Mike asked you those questions. Yeah, yeah, And it was 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:37.680 funny because the guy who ran my office at the time, 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.520 it was just a lovely guy. Like he wasn't some 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.880 corporate you know, asshole that you sort of the cliche 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.400 of what a corporate guy. He was just like a 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:51.080 great guy. Um, Dick Valentine if you're listening for still Buddies. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.760 But it was like, and Dick's a good guys didn't 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.480 have to be like some you know jerk. You're a 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:01.520 good guy. Why not. So in that first episode it 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:05.640 was just Stephen Milaura, right, well that was the second scene. 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:10.240 The first scene it was Steve Malaura and then Chip 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:15.520 was in that Josh Porter and the guy that was like, well, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.680 maybe I should have just slept with jan too. I'd 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.000 be funny, right right, right, right. But but in terms 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.160 of that, you know, the original sort of corecast with 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:27.079 Stephen Stephen Laura. I mean, at this point it was 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.160 occurring to me when I was looking at a meeting 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.439 with you today. By the time you came on the show, 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.600 Steve was a movie star. Yeah, like you know when 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.600 we started, he wasn't. Had you seen fourty year old virgin? Yeah? Yeah, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:42.800 I'd seen that. I've seen the show and like, oh 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.360 my crap, you know, and uh and I mean, yeah, 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.439 he couldn't have been more every and everyone couldn't have 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.960 been more welcoming. And he's such a pro and he's 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.520 just always coming up with funny or different ways to 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.120 do it, and which is really I guess that's a 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.600 Second City thing. I've maybe it's a Steve thing too, 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.959 but it's a something they try to do in Second City. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:05.560 You'd never do the same thing in a row or 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.319 you know, twice, right, right right? I mean you certainly 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.120 had scenes with other people, but so much of your 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:15.920 interaction was with Michael Scott, and you guys played so 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:21.680 well together. How was it for you playing with him? 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:26.160 Oh my god, it's spectacular. I would of course constantly laugh. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.640 I mean, he would just make me laugh. If we 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.320 did eight takes, four of them, I would have burst 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.960 out laughing. Oh it was hard for It was hard 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.960 for anybody, for sure. Did you when you come on, 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.640 say for the first time, when you entered the bullpen 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:42.640 at under Melflin for the first time, or with working 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:46.400 with Steve or whatever, did that make you nervous? Of course? Yeah, 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.920 the first day I was nervous as as heck. Um, 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.400 And then that thing you sort of settled back into Okay, 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.200 what am I doing in this scene? Why am I 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.040 hear all that stuff? And you know, and Steve, you 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.720 walk on, I couldn't, you know, walks right over. Hey 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.160 you doing, I'm Steve, you know, glad you're here, blah 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.680 blah blah. You know, just couldn't be more gracious. And 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:08.800 Greg was like that as well, you know everybody um, 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.240 And well it's funny because, like as you said, the 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.720 first I don't know the first number of years, it 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:18.040 was always me and Steve mostly, but it was always corporate, 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.600 so I was never in the bullpen. It was always 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.800 he would come. It was season five or so. I 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.640 don't know when I started going to Scranton, but the 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.200 first few times like, oh wow, like I'm never here. 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.400 This is wild. And I mean I didn't really know anybody. 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.080 Didn't you know, I didn't know you. I didn't know 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.600 kid or you know Angela. Any of the people were 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:43.120 really and you were all very mean, No, especially No, 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.040 And so I was like, oh, wow, this is wild. Yeah, 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.280 like I'm never here, this is only smokes. The one 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.920 thing I think that really I feel like this made 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:58.000 a significant difference in them perhaps using me more was 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.040 the convention in Scranton. I said, A got myself invited 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.520 to that. So we had we had finished season three, 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.120 you know, we hired Ryan. He started thinking me, I 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:07.720 wonder if there's a way I can sort of figure 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.520 out how to grade some business Merrill Lynch wise with this. 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.200 So I just look up is there a Merrill Lynch 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.040 office in Scranton? And lo and behold, there there is. 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.600 I called the office and there's a fellow who was 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:20.880 there at the time, and he said, hey, we're they're 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.280 having a convention, you know, in about a month, and 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.760 are you coming to that? I like, oh't no. I 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.800 know the guy putting on the convention, Tim Holmes, And 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.960 he said, let me call him. So like he set 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.040 it up for me to meet Tim, and Tim said, hey, 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.600 come on, we'll bring in And so it was great 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.320 to get to be a part of that because I 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.760 didn't know anybody. I didn't know, the writers, I didn't know, 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.000 so for three days, like I get to be around 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.280 and I'm there and I'm talking to people, and I 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.840 feel like that made a I don't know, I feel 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:51.880 like it made a difference because then the writer's got 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:55.800 a sense of like, uh, he's all right, he's okay, Yeah, 0:16:56.040 --> 0:17:00.920 he'll he'll do let's bring him back. That's fascinating. How 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:05.639 was it for you, just on a personal level, having 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:08.560 two jobs for such a long period of time, I mean, 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.200 was that about security for you? Or yeah? Yeah, and hey, 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:14.720 I mean I really enjoyed my time at Maryland, like 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:18.280 and uh, and I got partners when I started getting busy, 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.240 because when I started getting on the show a lot 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.479 that didn't necessarily take a ton of time. I mean 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.000 that most ever did, I think was twelve episodes. But 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.320 it was because of that that I was getting opportunities 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.240 to audition for a ton of stuff, for get to 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.679 be in some movies and things like that. Or I 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.600 had then had gotten on this other show when his 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.080 team Dramas. It was really great fun show, look called 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.760 The Lying Game like a pretty little liarsty think, so 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:42.720 then it was a little crys like, all right, I'll 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:44.639 probably leave in a year or two, but let's just 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:46.679 keep me on the books. And and then then I 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.880 eventually left at the end of two twelve. I guess, 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.800 through throughout your time on the going back a little bit, 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:57.439 how aware were you from episode to episode or season 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.439 two season how much you're going to be involved? Not 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.879 at all? Well, that was the crazy thing on season five. 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:05.600 I mean, it's kind of funny in hindsight because I 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.520 would just get a call from Alison Jones. Hey, they're 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.040 gonna use you next week. They'll EMAILI a script. Oh great, 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:14.359 I didn't have an agent. I had not, like, I 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.920 didn't have anything. That's awesome. And then after a little 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:18.840 while Alison was great. She's like, I'm gonna get you 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:20.560 some more money that you should be getting paid a 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.000 little more. And she did that, and then you know, 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.040 I ended up in a ton of the episodes that year. 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.560 I was like, man, if I, like what I had 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.639 an agent, like I might have been able to make 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.359 like a lot more money, and like, what could have 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:35.919 been a regular man? What was I thinking? But I, like, 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.520 I would have that thought fleetingly and like, hey, man, 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:42.000 are you kidding? So I didn't really dwell too much 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.720 in that but no, I wouldn't really know. And then 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:48.160 at the end of season five is when Randy Cordray said, Hey, 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:49.800 they're gonna you know, we gotta get you some sort 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.080 of a deal next year. And I said, oh, great, 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:56.159 all right, And then that was the got rid of me, like, crap, 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.159 we'll give you eight or ten shows and at the 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.360 end you'll be gone. And you thought you were gone 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.160 for good. I was gone for good. And if we're 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.439 doing the table read and I'm reading it and huh, 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.920 and I said to Paul Am I gone. He's like, yeah, 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:12.879 you know, we'll figure out a way to bring you 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.560 back at some point. But then, you know, it's so 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.159 funny when they did ultimately bring me back. Like a 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:22.200 year and a half later, I met a local Scranton fundraiser. 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.760 I just happened to bump into edit the bark Buckley. 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:30.360 You're back. Let's go with it. Let's go with it. Okay, 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:52.320 that's amazing. So I want you to I want you 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:56.840 to teach me a little bit. In late two eight 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:01.720 early two thousand nine, the housing bubble burst and we 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:07.280 went into a recession. So first off, I want you 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:10.760 to educate me what was the financial crisis that happened? 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:12.400 I mean, I guess there were all kinds of things, 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:16.199 but what the big thing was the lending on questionable credit. 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:20.199 So what what you had was all this lending going on. 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.399 You know, you had had whether they're actually were at 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:25.280 the banks or actual individual more mortgage brokers. They all 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:29.679 these banks lowered the credit standards that were necessary, that 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:33.800 had been necessary to get alone. So all kinds of 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:38.240 people were getting houses or condos or and then buying 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.800 second houses and third houses and all kinds of stuff. 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:44.200 You had people who you know, generally would be lucky 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:47.679 to own one house with basic credit standards, who suddenly 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:50.399 owned like, you know, four or five houses, and and 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.199 then it just reaches a crescendo or like wait a second, 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:57.280 this guy can't pay a mortgage on five houses, he 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.159 can barely pay one. And so then the bank to 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.600 start losing all kinds of money. I mean, it was crazy. 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.600 There was There was a the weekend that Lehman Brothers 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:08.280 went out of business, like Mary Lynch almost when I like, 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:12.000 it was two or three different ones that were possibly 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:15.159 going to go out of business, and Lehman Brothers was 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:17.560 the one when all of this was happening. That was 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.320 my busiest year on the show. Like there was one 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.919 day the day um the stock market by three hours 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:28.080 in was down over seven hundred points, And back then 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.199 it would be like if the market was down fifteen 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:33.880 hundred points that you know by two hours in. And 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:35.320 that was the day that I think it was the 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:38.760 Michael Scott negotiation, buying back to Michael Scott Paper Company. 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.280 It was a big scene. And it's like Steve and 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:43.679 and I have to like keep ducking out, like whenever 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:45.680 they'd say, Okay, we're gonna you know, let's take let's 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:48.760 take five. You know, I'd like duck out and Dr Wilson, 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:53.040 Andy Buckley, We're gonna be fine. It's a temporary thing. 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:55.080 I have to be out of the office today, John 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:58.400 and and Danner and there. You know. Meanwhile, I say, 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:00.040 I'm like, I got a huge scene. This is no 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:04.399 fun like I wanted. I want to you cannot believe 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:06.760 what I'm getting to do today. Of course, couldn't say that. 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:13.680 Do you feel like the office spoke to or how 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:18.800 do you think that that crisis affected storylines, either you're 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:22.679 specifically or others. Well, it's yeah, like the shareholders, like 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:25.640 we went bankrupt, and that's sort of coincided with what 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:28.639 was going on in the world at the time. So, 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:30.600 I mean, I guess the writers were paying attention to 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:34.240 their own brokerage accounts, you know, which we're going down, 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:36.639 or paying attention to the news. Oh that was the 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:40.560 funny thing. Uh. There were some of the folks that, uh, 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:42.760 not my partners or whatever, but like just some of 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:44.879 the other folks at Mary Lynch at the time. They're like, well, 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:47.200