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Speaker 1: who's definitely not on scholarship. A couple of years ago,

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00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers drafted a kicker in the third round. Now,

462
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Speaker 1: this was a time because of the Trey Lance trade,

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Speaker 1: they didn't have any first round picks, so typically the

464
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Speaker 1: first picks that they had would be at the end

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Speaker 1: of the second round because they had been winning, so

466
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Speaker 1: they weren't picking till like the late fifties. So for

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Speaker 1: the first you know, first night and even a long

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Speaker 1: way into the second night, the forty nineers didn't have

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Speaker 1: a draft pick, and they had a roster that would

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Speaker 1: be reminiscent now of the Ravens of the Vikings. If

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Speaker 1: I draft a guy in the second, third round, it

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Speaker 1: is going to be very difficult for that guy to

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Speaker 1: start on my team, hell to make the team. He's

474
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Speaker 1: only making the team because of his draft slot. There

475
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 1: is no guarantee that he's gonna actually earn that spot

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00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: based on training camp and on the field. But that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the way the league works. I've believed when

478
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Speaker 1: you're in a situation like that, and you can be

479
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: I guess a little greedy that if you take a

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Speaker 1: kicker or a punter at the end of the third round.

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Speaker 1: Taking a guy in the first couple rounds is insane,

482
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Speaker 1: but you start getting into the third round, there's that

483
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Speaker 1: thing called compensatory picks, and the forty nine ers were

484
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Speaker 1: getting a ton of them because they had a bunch

485
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Speaker 1: of dudes like Robert Sala, Mike McDaniel's half black, these

486
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Speaker 1: guys getting jobs and them getting extra picks at the

487
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Speaker 1: end of the third round. So they had like several

488
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Speaker 1: picks at the end of the third round, and they

489
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Speaker 1: used on a kicker. And this kicker, Jim Harbaugh used

490
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: to say when he coached him at Michigan Death Taxes

491
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Speaker 1: and Movie, It's guaranteed. Moody was that automatic. And I'll

492
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: never forget my first year in Philadelphia, David Akers was

493
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Speaker 1: the kicker, and he had had a fantastic career and

494
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: that year got a little weird. He missed him kicks,

495
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: I think specifically in the playoffs, and Andy and Howie

496
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: let him walk and he went onto the forty nine

497
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Speaker 1: ers the next year and he made the Pro Bowl

498
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: and he was probably thirty five thirty six at the time. Well,

499
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: the Eagles didn't have a kicker because Akre's walk, So

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Speaker 1: what do we do. We drafted a kicker in the

501
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Speaker 1: fourth round. I don't even remember the guy's name. He

502
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: was a star, like all American, all big tit twelve

503
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: kicker from Nebraska. All the guy did in college was

504
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Speaker 1: make kicks. So like draft him in the fourth round.

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Speaker 1: And I'll never forget because I at practice with Bobby April,

506
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Speaker 1: our special teams coordinator, whose son, Bobby April Junior I

507
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: think now is the defensive coordinator for Stanford. Loved that family,

508
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: great people. I used to help him with special team stuff,

509
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: whether it be at practice or during the week, charting shit.

510
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: It was a shitty job, but it was fun. Bobby

511
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: was cool, and I remember I was doing times I

512
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: was charting stuff and I would kind of have to

513
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: stand by Bobby and kind of by Coach Reid, who

514
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: would stand right behind the kicking unit during that period

515
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: of practice. And usually during that period of practice, if

516
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: you have, you know, a normal kicker right let alone

517
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: a good kicker. Most people aren't paying attention right during

518
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: training camp. People are dicking around, You're starting units are

519
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: on the side during gatorade water bullshitting hell. Even when

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00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: I was a scout or when I was at Fresnoe state,

521
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: you just bullshit on the side. It doesn't They kick them,

522
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: make some kicks, and you just move on to normal

523
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: part of practice. But when you have a new kicker,

524
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Speaker 1: especially drafted a guy like everyone's kind of watching him

525
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: and I remember him missing some kicks and it getting

526
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: weird fast. And the one thing with kicking, unlike these

527
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: other positions, confidence is a huge, huge element of it,

528
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: and kicking unlike playing defensive tackle or wide receiver, it's

529
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: not really that physical, right, it becomes much more mental.

530
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: It's like being a baseball player, being a golfer. You're

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00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: spending the majority of your time thinking, and once you

532
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: lose it, I think it's kind of gone because not

533
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: only do you start questioning yourself, I think there's a

534
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: natural insecurity where you start thinking that other people are

535
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: questioning you because it's not like you're lifting the same

536
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: weights as these guys. Practice is the same for you.

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00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: You kind of live a different life though you know,

538
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: if you're a third round pick, you're probably making a

539
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: million dollars. It's a great life. But the moment you

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Speaker 1: start missing kicks in general, unless you are such a

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Speaker 1: high level player, have a bunch of equity, like Justin Tucker.

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00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: But even toward the end with Justin Tucker, before all

543
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: the news broke, it was like, God, he might just

544
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: be old and done. Remember the last couple of years

545
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: out of Vinitari when he was old. But he got

546
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: a little bit of the benefit of the doubt, because like,

547
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: this guy's a Hall of Famer, right, this guy's a

548
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. But often when a kicker has no

549
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: equity he starts missing kicks, you go, he's done because

550
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: the difference of him once he starts missing and ten

551
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 1: guys on the street does not exist. Yet, if your

552
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: right tackle has a bad game, you know, you can't

553
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: just cut your right tackle and find some dude who's

554
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: at home that played in the NFL the last couple

555
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: of years and replacing with that. The GAP's too big.

556
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: But with kicking and punting, kicking even more than punting,

557
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty easy to replace the kicker. And

558
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: I believed that it's like, what the hell, if your

559
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: team's good enough, take a guy in the third round.

560
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: At the end of the third round, it's like pick

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Speaker 1: ninety nine, who cares? That was dumb And that's a

562
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: complete waste to pick and I believe that under no circumstances,

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Speaker 1: probably until like the seventh round, should you take a

564
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: special teams player because I googled it, like, oh, where's

565
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: David Akers drafted? Oh? He was an undrafted free agent.

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00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: Where was Justin Tucker drafted? Oh? Yeah, it was an

567
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. Most of these guys are undrafted free agents.

568
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: So wasting a pick on something that is so out

569
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: of your control because these guys mental stability just as

570
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: quickly as it goes. It's like Paul aising Or said,

571
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: the famous golfer that confidence is a powerful thing. When

572
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: you got it, you never think you're gonna lose it,

573
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: and when it's gone, you never think it's going back.

574
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: And anyone that's played golf can relate to that. You

575
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: can be like, God, I just have two birdies in

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00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: a row. I feel like Tiger Woods, and then the

577
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: next hole you can blast one out of bounds and

578
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like I don't even know, I

579
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing. I don't know how to

580
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: swing a golf club. And I do believe with kickers,

581
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: like with quarterbacks. Look at JJ McCarthy through one of

582
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: the worst passes he'll he's probably thrown in his entire

583
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: life that pick six. It doesn't get any worse than that.

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00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: What do you do? Shook it off, threw a couple

585
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: more passes and he was good. You just kind of

586
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: battle through it, like if you're a basketball player. You know,

587
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: I went zero for ten with Steph currk. Just keep shooting,

588
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: keep fired, get to the rim, just keep going like

589
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: it's like I haven't I haven't got a pressure all day. Well,

590
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: just keep rushing. You've been using the bull the bull rush,

591
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: try an inside counter, try a speed rush, mix it up.

592
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: Just keep going, keep playing hard, good things will happen.

593
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: The mental sports golf, baseball, kicking like trying hard doesn't work.

594
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: It's actually the opposite. But that means you gotta like

595
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: take off and pull back the reins and think even more.

596
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: And that's where you get a problem. So the forty

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00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: nine ers cut their kicker. I think what it brings

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00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: in the light. Under no circumstances. Can you take a

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00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: kicker high anymore? It's just bad business because there I

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00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: would say, nothing translates less than oh, this guy was

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Speaker 1: an All American at a top ten program. It doesn't

602
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: mean shit. Honestly, it means nothing because you can get

603
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: him and he immediately can suck. And I don't give

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers any credit. They should have done

605
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: this last year. They should have done this in training camp.

606
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: They needed him to miss a twenty seven yard kick

607
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: against Seattle, which easily and probably should have cost them

608
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: the game. They got very, very lucky to win that game,

609
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: and Jake Boody tried to lose it for him. And listen,

610
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: most coaches, and I was texting with someone the other day,

611
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: I think defensive coaches actually have more respect for kickers because,

612
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: like in a perfect world, they want to play in

613
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: lower scoring games. In a lower scoring game, the kicker

614
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: has a huge impact on the game, right Like look

615
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: at John Harbaugh and Justin Tucker. Look at Jim Harball

616
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: who's an offensive guy but technically feels like a defensive guy.

617
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: A lot of these defensive coach Mike Tomlin now with

618
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Boswell like they value the kicker highly. Kyle Shanahan can't

619
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Speaker 1: stand the kicker. He thinks if he could vote, if

620
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Speaker 1: they ever had in a league meeting, like you can

621
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: just get rid of field goals, he would vote to

622
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: get rid of him. And listen, I do understand if

623
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 1: you value offense or defense, thinking like, how is this

624
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: a part of the game. It's like Ben Hogan and

625
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: golf famously thought like putting shouldn't exist, right, He's like,

626
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: you hit the fairway, you hit a great shot from

627
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: two hundred yards, and then I three putt. It's like, well, yeah,

628
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: it is part of the game. Like kicking's part of

629
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Speaker 1: the game. And when you have a bad kicker, and

630
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: most teams don't have Joshen and Lamar Jackson, so you're

631
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: just gonna, like the forty nine ers are gonna play

632
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: any ton of close games. You had to cut this

633
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: guy and he got like way more shots, just like

634
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: most people get more shots. Caleb Williams. If Kayleb Williams

635
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: was Brock Purty and you know, seventh round pick that

636
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: got an opportunity to start and played back, he would

637
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: not play anymore. But you get more opportunities win you're

638
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: draft to I you just do because of the money

639
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: people invest in you, because people view that you have

640
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Speaker 1: better traits. And Jake Moody is a great example. If

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Speaker 1: Jake Moody had been an undrafted free agent from Michigan

642
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Speaker 1: that had made the forty nine ers and missed all

643
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: these kicks and been objectively not a very good player.

644
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: He would have been cut twelve months ago. They wouldn't

645
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: even have thought twice. They would have thrown into the trash,

646
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: as they do with a ton of players on the team.

647
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: That's part of the NFL. Guys get cut and transitioned

648
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: in and out all the time. But there are certain

649
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: players and every team has this, maybe like a second

650
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: round pick, maybe a first round pick who's not that good,

651
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: who probably should be cut, but it's like, ah, do

652
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: not gonna do it yet, So they finally cut them.

653
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: And I'd argue it's a year or too late, but

654
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: better late than never, after Week one, which could have

655
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: been a disaster. And I just don't think there's a

656
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Speaker 1: team in the league. I do think, you know, whenever

657
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: a team's going through a spell. The Eagles had this happen,

658
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers have had this happen. I'm sure

659
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: there are other teams that the Lions had this happen

660
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: last year where we try to figure out, like, why

661
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: are there's so many injuries? So I don't know. Some guys,

662
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: sometimes you just go through a stretch where guys are

663
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: breaking legs, pulling hamstrings, and hurting shoulders. But at least

664
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Speaker 1: in football, if you go to training camp or in

665
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: a preseason game or a regular season game, when you

666
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: see a guy injured, you're like, hey, George Kittle just

667
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: pulled his hamstring. Like it's just it happened on him

668
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: running a go route down the scene. Not ideal, obviously,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a disaster, but everyone understands he was

670
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: running pulled his hamstring. I don't think there's any team

671
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: that I ever remember seeing more guys get injured. They're like,

672
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: play the game, have success in the game. You see

673
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: like in the locker room highlights after the game, everyone's

674
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: high five in breaking down the team, and then on

675
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday, it'll be like, yeah, a little update

676
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: here brock Purdy, we're adding him to the injury report.

677
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: He uh, he's got a fucked up toe and a

678
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: bump shoulder. You're like, what, what did you say? The

679
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: forty nine ers have guys who finished games look completely

680
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: fine and then come Monday or Tuesday are injured. So

681
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: they lead the league. They literally had last night in

682
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: the Vikings game, the linebacker who pulled his Hammy had

683
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: to wait to get into the tent because the center

684
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: was in there. The forty nine Ers tent is so

685
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: big it fit Trent Williams and George Kittle at the

686
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: same time. They have a large tent because they know

687
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Speaker 1: that multiple players might be in the tent at the

688
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Speaker 1: same time. The Vikings just have a normal tent. It's like,

689
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Speaker 1: only there's only one room for one player. I would

690
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: imagine most teams that's the case, not the forty nine Ers.

691
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Speaker 1: You know, it's like, God, what sized lot do you

692
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Speaker 1: live on? Oh? I live on an acre that's like

693
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Speaker 1: the equivalent of the four Naturally, Oh, we got the

694
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Speaker 1: extra extra large tent. So it's just I can't even

695
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Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say because at this

696
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: point in time, you just expect. I don't even care.

697
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: If the game ends and you haven't heard anything, just no,

698
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Speaker 1: come Monday or Tuesday, more injuries will happen. Okay, mail

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Speaker 1: back time at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff Instagram. Fire

700
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Speaker 1: in those dms, get your questions answer here on the show.

701
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Speaker 1: We're off and running now, so let's bang out some

702
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Speaker 1: questions enjoy ourselves. We will start with he doesn't actually

703
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Speaker 1: have his name. It seems to be that fan and

704
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: media conventional wisdom that quarterback ranking is in some order

705
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Speaker 1: Mahomes Allen. But are we so sure about this? Mahomes

706
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: went to a team with multiple Hall of Famers, arguably

707
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: the greatest coach of all time, elite ownership, better defense,

708
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: significantly more Pro Bowlers. Josh Allen has been handed a

709
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: football and told good luck out there, kid. If the

710
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Speaker 1: situation was flipped, do we honestly think Mahomes could do

711
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: what Allen could do? Allen is the best TV ratio

712
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Speaker 1: in the NFL history. In the playoffs, Josh plays reckless

713
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: is simply a lie, since Allen has been the quarterback.

714
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Speaker 1: When they lose on in the playoffs, the Bills give

715
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: up thirty three point two fucking points. I think today, listen, Mahomes,

716
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna bet on him in a big game

717
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: because big games get ugly. He obviously just comes through

718
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Speaker 1: when it matters the most. But as we sit here today,

719
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: the best player in the league is Josh Allen, and

720
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Speaker 1: I would say not far behind him is Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Like what we witness on something that those are the

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00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: two best players in the league. It doesn't mean that

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00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: that guy won't get it done. Right. When Steph Curry

724
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: won the NBA Championship in twenty twenty two, he was

725
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: not the best player in the NBA. Was there anyone

726
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Speaker 1: you were gonna bet against with a game online or

727
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: in a big moment or a guy to come through

728
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: in game six or seven to score forty five to

729
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Speaker 1: fifty points. So I think that's the way we talk

730
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Speaker 1: about Mahomes right, Like was Joe Montana better than John

731
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: Elway or did Joe Montana just have kind of a

732
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: clutch gene That was hard to argue? Now I'm with

733
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Speaker 1: you on Josh Allen. If you gave Josh Allen to

734
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Speaker 1: the Kansaity Chiefs, they they are every bit as good

735
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Speaker 1: and knowing guys with Kansas City. The respect level that

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Speaker 1: organization has for Josh, Like if you were Andy doesn't drink,

737
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Speaker 1: but if you were just having a cocktail in theory

738
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Speaker 1: with Andy Reid or just bsing with him about football,

739
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: Like he's a great guy to just bs about football, right, players, GMS, owners, whatever,

740
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: just nerd out Like I would imagine he would tell

741
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: you in his decades of being in the NFL, back

742
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: since Brett Farth that Josh Allen is as good of

743
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: a guy he's ever coached against. He would be right

744
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Speaker 1: near the top. And I'm with you. I don't I

745
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 1: don't argue. I just think we got a big four.

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Speaker 1: I would include Herbert if he's gonna keep playing like

747
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: that as a big five, and then Jayden Daniels if

748
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,479
Speaker 1: he just becomes like if he just does it again,

749
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: like he's just a story as well. Just hard to

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Speaker 1: argue with Mahomes, Like, I mean, he has some big moments,

751
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: he has some down moments, but like it's pretty clear

752
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: he's special player now. Currently what Josh Allen did the

753
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: other night was just that was freaking awesome. That was cool.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles recently worked out seven free agents. Could you

755
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: please walk us through this process. Do all seven players

756
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: work out at the same time, like a mini combine?

757
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: Are the coordinators present or just the position coaches? Do

758
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Speaker 1: the Eagles cover travel and hotel expenses? If yes, would

759
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: the players typically be flown in first class put up

760
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: in a decent hotel. Do workouts like this typically take

761
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Speaker 1: all day? Are the Eagles on the hook for any

762
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: injury during the workouts? Is there any oversight by the

763
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Speaker 1: Players Union, such as restrictions. I can't speak to the

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Speaker 1: Players Union's restrictions. I think it depends the player you are. Like,

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Speaker 1: if you were just an undrafted free agent who, let's say,

766
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Speaker 1: was at training camp for the Chargers and got cut

767
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: and are not on a practice squad, the Eagles aren't

768
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Speaker 1: flying you out first class. Now, if you are Keenan Allen,

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Speaker 1: I know he's on the Chargers now, but you know

770
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Speaker 1: a guy like that, you might fly out first class.

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Speaker 1: I would say when I first got hired, my job

772
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Speaker 1: was to pick those guys up at the airport and

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Speaker 1: bring them the facility. And typically they would get You

774
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Speaker 1: would take them to the training room, they would get ready,

775
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: they would stretch, maybe they would eat, and the workout

776
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Speaker 1: varies by position. Now a lot of times, let's say

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Speaker 1: you got a list, it's called a short list. So

778
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Speaker 1: Howie and his personal state have a list of free

779
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: agents from quarterbacks to kickers. And if you lose, if

780
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson breaks his back and is out for the season,

781
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: well then there's a domino effect, right, the backup becomes

782
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: the starter. There's no longer a backup to the starter.

783
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: So you've got to elevate, probably a guy from the

784
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Speaker 1: practice squad and you need to fill his position on

785
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: the practice squad. So typically you want to know who's

786
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: the best available guy on the street well over the

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00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: course of the year. And this is how He's and

788
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: the Eagles have been doing this forever, and I can't

789
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: speak to every team. Is usually on every Monday or

790
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: Tuesday of a week you will have a workout of

791
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: your highest graded street free agents and they will do

792
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: If you're a dB, you'll just do just generic dB drills, backpedal, run,

793
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: break on the ball. It's just kind of to get

794
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: a gauge like physically, is he okay? Is he in

795
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: decent shape? And depending on the player you are. You know,

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00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: if we need to sign an offensive lineman or a

797
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 1: defensive back, then the position coaching coordinator are probably coming.

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00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: Potentially the head coach as well. If these are just

799
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Speaker 1: a generic workout, we don't plan on signing any of them,

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00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: then it probably is just the scouts and maybe like

801
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: a quality control type coach you know to throw. You know,

802
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: Matt Naggie when I was there, used to be the

803
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: quarterback and would throw. So I think it depends on

804
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: the situation. You know, in Philly, And it also depends

805
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: on how I can't I haven't been to every team's facility.

806
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: There's a Marriotte right next to the airport, so they

807
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: just stay at the Marriott. Like these guys aren't staying

808
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: at the four seasons. And then if I don't sign you,

809
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: I just fly you home. But they cover the travel,

810
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: they cover your hotel, they pick you up, take you back,

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Speaker 1: they feed you. So it's you don't have to pay

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Speaker 1: for anything. Now I'm sure there aren't ha been situations

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Speaker 1: in two thousand, I would say the last twenty years.

814
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: Maybe you're doing a favor for a guy, so the

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00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: agent would pay. But I think at this point in

816
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 1: time with most players, if he's good enough to give

817
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: the GM's time and scouting staff's time and position coaches time,

818
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: then the team is paying for it. So there is

819
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: a budget for this type stuff. Workouts, flying guys in

820
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Speaker 1: and this is what I always talk about why international

821
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Speaker 1: teams would be a pain. What the Eagles just did

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00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: these guys probably flying guys from Florida, Texas, La. Imagine

823
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Speaker 1: if three of your guys you want to work out,

824
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Speaker 1: and you're the London team and you're flying them from

825
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: LA never been to London, but I know it's a

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Speaker 1: pretty far flight. So it's did I answer all your questions? Coordinators?

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Speaker 1: President depends position, Coaches cover the travel first class. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're trying to get a job in your twenty

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Speaker 1: five year old street free agent, then you're not flying

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Speaker 1: in first class. Quick question for the pod, am I

831
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Speaker 1: crazy to want to send Juwan Taylor to Siberia for

832
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: being the reason that Chiefs continue to struggle on the

833
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: offensive line. He gets a ton of penalties. I would

834
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: imagine he's way better than the backup. So, like, the

835
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Speaker 1: penalties are a problem, and I'm sure they are trying

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Speaker 1: to figure that out. You know, Andy's an offensive lineman

837
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: at heart. Heck, the offensive line coach is a stud.

838
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Speaker 1: But I yeah, I he would not be starting if

839
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't the best option. This is not college football.

840
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: We're guys around scholarship here, so he's the best option.

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00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: I don't understand why jump so much, though, But then again,

842
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: I could probably just text someone and ask question for

843
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: the back. Obviously, the Bengals win was very ugly. For

844
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: the first time in years, the defense bailed us out.

845
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: The rookie Stewart was the fourth highest rated rookie. Did

846
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Speaker 1: this win change your outlook on the Bengals at all?

847
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: I say this all the time. I do put divisional

848
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Speaker 1: games my judgment on those games, especially Week one. Like

849
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm not making grand proclamations like the Bengals offense will

850
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: be fine. Last year they lost Week one to the Patriots.

851
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: You got Joe Burrow, you got Jamar Chase, you got

852
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: T Higgins. That was one of those games that I

853
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: had on my second TV in like one of the

854
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: smaller boxes, and I guess maybe I didn't give the

855
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: Browns enough respect. I never thought the Browns were gonna win,

856
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: so I wasn't super dialed in on that game. I

857
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: do think this, if you know Hendrickson held out right

858
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: or held in you know what I mean. If you

859
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: can get him going again and this rookie can make

860
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: plays and you got two good pass rushers, then yeah,

861
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: your defense, especially if you have leads with a good

862
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: passing game, should be better on defense. Now al golden

863
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: people in football think highly of him. Yeah, I mean,

864
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: I'd say this. I thought the Ravens were gonna be

865
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: good on defense. They got shredded. I thought the Steelers

866
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: are gonna be good on defense. Justin fields looked like

867
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson hot take. College football is ruined with nil

868
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: in playoff. The playoff change only a very small percentage

869
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: of games and teams are worth watching. The nil thing

870
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: was inevitable, but the playoff change was the nail in

871
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: the coffin. For me, it felt like the hype for

872
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: the Natty last year was as low as ever, and

873
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: it's not because the teams that were in it. The

874
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: playoffs dragged out for a month and felt like they

875
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: were too many teams. They should have made a sixteen

876
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: playoff with the one and two seeds getting by. That way,

877
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: the momentum with a good first slate of playoff games

878
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: plays into a more hype semi final. What are your thoughts?

879
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this recently. One thing that's pretty

880
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: sad is the little guy like the mid non power

881
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: team right think about Washington State. The last two years,

882
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: Washington State has lost cam Ward to the University of Miami,

883
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: a historic power for millions of dollars. He became the

884
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: number one pick, and then this year Oklahoma not only

885
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: stole him, they stole the court. And John Mattier is

886
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: going to be a first round pick. So programs like

887
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: Washington State that used to be a power for program,

888
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,479
Speaker 1: the program that I got my start at Fresno State

889
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: under Pat Hill, had a ton of draft picks. Those

890
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: guys never would have finished at Fresno State. Ever, Logan

891
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: Mankins would have been paid a million dollars to go

892
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: be a guard at Alabama or Texas. Ryan Matthews would

893
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: have been at Oregon. These guys Washington State, every good

894
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: player they have over the last decade would have been

895
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: stolen Oregon State. They've had a ton of NFL players,

896
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: they all would get taken. Hell, we are seeing it

897
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: San Diego State. Josh Simmons, the chief starting left tackle,

898
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: started his freshman year at San Diego State and then

899
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: immediately went to Ohio State, which is crazy because it

900
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: got how good that guy, but sometimes academically whatever, I

901
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 1: don't know exactly how it happened. He's from the northern

902
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: San Diego Helix High School actually home of Reggie Bush

903
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: and Alex Smith. But yeah, I just think the little

904
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: guy has always been a disadvantage. Like Washington State was

905
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: never winning the championship, right, Frezo State was never winning

906
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: the championship. But Boise had a couple of years whe

907
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: you thought they could have that, they never would have

908
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: had that team. That team would have been pillaged. Ashton Genty.

909
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: I've said this before and I will say this again.

910
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: So if I'm repeating myself, we're never seeing that situation again.

911
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: He was so loyal to Boise State that he accepted.

912
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, based on an athletic article I read last year,

913
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: the max they could pay him was like three hundred

914
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,479
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, which is obviously a ton for a young

915
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: player just in general in college football. But he was

916
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 1: being offered over seven figures by other teams like who

917
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: maybe Texas. Some of these teams are offering him a

918
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: million dollars to play, right, and he turned him down.

919
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: Like moving forward, that is not going to be the case.

920
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: It's very hard to be loyal when those are your options.

921
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: So that's what pains me. And I'm just talking about

922
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: the non powerful. What about like when Minnesota or ASU

923
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: or schools like that that get a good player, well,

924
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: the big boys with the big money can just take

925
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: them away, and that's we're never going back. So I'm

926
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: just I still enjoy it, but there is part I

927
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: hate being the guy that holds on to the past.

928
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: I saw a good quote one time on a song

929
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Sometimes, like if I'm just watching a good

930
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: acoustic version on YouTube, I'll just read the comments and

931
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 1: I think it was like it was like an Eagle

932
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: song or Don Henley song. I think the guy it

933
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: was a Don Henley song playing acoustic at in Howard

934
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: Stern's studio, probably like fifteen years ago. And one of

935
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: the comments that I'll never forget is like I would

936
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: like to go back in time, not to do things over,

937
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: but just to feel that again, because sometimes when you

938
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: listen to music right, it brings up emotional things from

939
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: your past that are positive and you're like, God, I

940
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: would love to feel that again, but you never will,

941
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: but you can remember it by this in the music.

942
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: I think there's some of that in sports, Like for me,

943
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: I don't miss the time when I looked at sports

944
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: just kind of pure, you know, when in the nineties

945
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: when I just love sports, like as a kid, as

946
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: a ten year old, as twelve year old, as a

947
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: fourteen year old, there was something pure about it and

948
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: that is long fucking gone now. So listen, do I

949
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: miss the pac twelve. It's not like I spend much

950
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: time thinking about it, but yeah, I enjoyed my time

951
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: being able to watch Oregon State play USC on a

952
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: Thursday night and see Mark Sanchez and Ray mal Luga

953
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: and Brian Cushing and Clay Matthews losing game up there

954
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: like that was fun. But those days kind of feel over.

955
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: So we just have to adapt and move on, like

956
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: we're never going back, you know. I think about this

957
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: all the time. I try to spend less time on

958
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: my phone and I've deleted Twitter from my phone, and

959
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: don't call me a hero. I'm not looking for credit here.

960
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: So this isn't like some self absorbed thought, but it's

961
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: just a big picture thought of like I'm about to

962
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: have a child. I don't want to be so behold

963
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: into my phone. And there are times when I think

964
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: I hate my phone, and then I think my entire

965
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: life and all the money I make are essentially because

966
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: of technology, are all because of technology. I would not

967
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: have been able to transition my career from radio to

968
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: doing what I did now if the iPhone didn't change

969
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: the world and you could just have a radio show

970
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: listen to you on your phone, right, And obviously YouTube

971
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: has done this very similar thing now. So it's like

972
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: things that drive you nuts that also benefit you. Things

973
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: you like you gotta just we're all trying to figure

974
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: it out and work through. I try not to live

975
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: in like negativity. You know, I don't watch basketball nearly

976
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: as much. There are things about the sport that I

977
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: dislike now that I used to not. But if you

978
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: tell me Steph Curry's going off, like, I will sit

979
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: down and I will watch the game. So I sometimes

980
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: I just try to like not think too deep. Not

981
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: everything you have to dive and listen. I'm not trying

982
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: to tell you how to think, but I think one

983
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: angle I take on a lot of stuff that just

984
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: allows me to be happier is like, not everything has

985
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 1: to be super deep. Do you think with how Moody

986
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: panned out with the forty nine ers, we will never

987
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: see another kicker drafted as early as he went. Uh.

988
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 1: We talk about this with a lot of positions and listen,

989
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: people will always make excuses if it's like, hey, this

990
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: guy's been a lot of trouble h But shit, he's six'

991
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: five two eighty and he can bend the. Edge he

992
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: can hit that passer and it's like take him. Forth you,

993
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: KNOW i think the kicker, THING i think there are

994
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: a lot of organizations that would never touch a kicker.

995
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: High BUT i think once it happens to, you especially

996
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: teams like in your, division you see it, happen you

997
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: go why would we ever do? This SO i do

998
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: think it'll obviously have a huge impact on the forty nine,

999
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: ers BUT i do think other teams study and especially

1000
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: like even if you do need a kicker that is something,

1001
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: like give me the study last twenty years of where

1002
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: all The Pro bowl, kickers all the top ten kickers

1003
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: have been, selected and the majority of them are going

1004
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: to be like six seventh undraft free. Agents so in

1005
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: what world would you waste a third round pick on the?

1006
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: Kicker so it will, There he's not the only one

1007
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: like we have. Seen Remember, aguyo the Dude jason Light,

1008
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: took who again all time greatest kicker At Florida. State

1009
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: guy was, automatic he couldn't. Miss but the pressure once

1010
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: you come to the, pros everyone starts paying attention to

1011
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: you during the period at training camp when you're. Kicking

1012
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: that did not happen in, college so you just had

1013
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: to make kicks in the. Game there's way less, pressure

1014
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: even though there is pressure on, you nothing like THE.

1015
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: Nfl because in college you can miss a, Kick you're

1016
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: not gonna get. Cut in THE nfl like you will get.

1017
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: Replaced SO i think when you look at a, guile

1018
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: when you look At, MOODY i forget the kid From.

1019
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: Nebraska he was. Terrible he just had he was just

1020
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 1: like WHENEVER i looked At moody's face and, Like, god

1021
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: his face turns me. Off something about is, like, uh

1022
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: he just always looked like he had like a frown

1023
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: embedded To just the way he just casually stood there

1024
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: and looked drove me. Nuts the dude we took In

1025
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: philly was just such a. PUSS i remember, thinking, like

1026
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be AN nfl, player and the answer, was,

1027
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: no he's. Not as someone who talks about sports for a,

1028
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: Living i'm curious how you personally DIGEST nfl football On,

1029
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: sundays with six different games going on simultaneously in the

1030
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: one o'clock, timeslot how are you able to make sure

1031
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: you watch all of them in enough detail to be

1032
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: able to discuss them on your podcast or whatever you're talking.

1033
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: About do you have a bunch of TVs or are

1034
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: you flipping around back and. Forth, WELL i have two

1035
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: TVs and a big computer, screen SO i technically could

1036
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: have nine plus games going on at one, time which

1037
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: is only an issue in the morning. Window but the

1038
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: reality of the Business i'm in is we talk about

1039
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 1: big stories and the things that. Matter i'm not breaking

1040
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: Down Bryce young's. Footwork the MOMENT i see that game doesn't,

1041
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: MATTER i stop paying. Attention it doesn't. Matter i'm not

1042
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: going to discuss. It so you have to prioritize what

1043
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: matters to the general. Public now things, change if something crazy,

1044
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 1: happens you have to start paying. Attention BUT i, knew

1045
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: let's Use Saturday sunday morning for. EXAMPLE i knew The

1046
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: Jets steelers was an important. Story Jaden daniels was one

1047
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: of the best players playing in the morning. Window i'm

1048
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: watching that game, right trying to Think Raiders, patriots that

1049
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: that was a GAME i was paying attention. To in,

1050
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: THEORY i was Watching Miami. Colts but ten minutes in

1051
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: that game doesn't. Matter so nothing in that game matters

1052
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: to me beside the big. Picture do The dolphins suck

1053
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: and do they have something In Daniel jones and the

1054
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 1: angles pretty easy On Daniel. Jones we won't know till

1055
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: we see him play better. Teams and The, dolphins, yeah

1056
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: they probably. Suck, now there are gonna be some games

1057
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: that if like in the afternoon, window if there are

1058
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: four decent, games it's hard to watch them. All SO

1059
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: i was really dialed in To Niner seattle And Green Bay,

1060
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: detroit AND i tried to pay strong attention to The

1061
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: rams and The houston. Game, well once The packer game

1062
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: BECOMES i mean it's like a blowout in the first,

1063
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: half it's seventeen to three or, whatever but it feels

1064
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: like they're on. Forty it's like not even. Close they're

1065
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: kicking their, ass like kind of seeing WHAT i need to,

1066
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: see unless there's a crazy, comeback which there. Wasn't like

1067
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: the storylines for that game have played. Out SO i

1068
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: dial into The rams, GAME i dial into The niners.

1069
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: Game it's harder for, me LIKE i GOT i do

1070
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: Because i'm interested in to see Cam. WARD i need

1071
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: to go back and just watch some of the highlights

1072
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: If i'm gonna If i'm gonna talk, about you, know Cam,

1073
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: Ward LIKE i watched enough when Bo nix was on the.

1074
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: FIELD i kind of just picked my. Spots BUT i

1075
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: also don't pretend to talk about something IF i haven't watched.

1076
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: It I'm i'm not running first take. Here so IF

1077
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: i haven't watched, It i'm not gonna have a huge

1078
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: opinion on. It BUT i know things THAT i have

1079
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: to have an opinion on that, Matter i'm gonna pay attention.

1080
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: To and then if something happens THAT i didn't, EXPECT

1081
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: i have the TECHNOLOGY i can go back and watch, it,

1082
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: Right BUT i pay attention to kind of everything that's

1083
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: going on On sunday and lock into the big, stories

1084
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: and then you pivot as things are. Fluid, now do

1085
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: you know WHAT i love as buys, Happen like when

1086
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: we get to the point where there are three or

1087
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: four teams on buys in that, game you only got

1088
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: to pay attention to four or five games in the

1089
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: morning and then potentially sometimes two games in the. Afternoon

1090
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: that's Increat it's that's pretty easy for me to. Do

1091
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: the first couple of. Weeks the last couple of, weeks

1092
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: uh ARE i, mean are are? Challenged luckily some of

1093
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: these games like The jags Uh carolina, Game, Like i'm

1094
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: not talking about that, game right IF i led my

1095
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: show with, that Then i'd have to go back and

1096
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: watch the condensed version of the. Game so it's a

1097
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: long way of saying, That, YEAH i mean there's some

1098
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: Stuff i'm just gonna miss and then we probably won't. Discuss,

1099
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: now if someone asked me about it or it's, like,

1100
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: hey you need to watch, This i'll go back and

1101
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: watch and Maybe i'll have an. Opinion but there's a,

1102
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: reason like you, know if you Watch whoever's, big, right

1103
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: unless they're going surface area on, stuffing they're hammering home

1104
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: the big STORIES i can talk About Kayleb, Williams Josh,

1105
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: Allen Lamar, jackson AND jj McCarthy till the fucking cows come,

1106
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: home you know. Why that's what most people are talking.

1107
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: About SO i try having a lot of information of what's,

1108
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: important what's not. Important television ratings pretty good idea of

1109
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: like what podcasts, work what podcasts don't in terms of

1110
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: numbers of people listening through video and. Audio got a

1111
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: pretty good idea at this point in, time like kind

1112
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: of What i'm. Doing but, yeah there's stuff that you,

1113
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: know you're there're gonna be games that there are individuals

1114
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: that are watching way closer than. Me question for the,

1115
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: bag just a fun. Exercise what level of draft pick

1116
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: do you think Prime Justin tucker goes for a third round.

1117
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: PICK i would GUESS i think a team would give

1118
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: a third round. Pick, yeah third feels about as high

1119
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: because the second round. PICK i can Get DeVante, adams,

1120
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: RIGHT i can Get Nick, CHUBB i can GET i

1121
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: can get like high, END i can get a starting,

1122
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: CORNERS i can get great players And lashawn. McCoy third

1123
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: round would be my. Guess Does tampa officially have the

1124
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: best receiver room in THE? Nfl, guys let me reread,

1125
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: that Does tampa officially have the best wide receiver room

1126
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: in THE? Nfl evans all time consistent Producer godwin is

1127
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: a one on at least a third of the, League

1128
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: abuka is going to be a contender For Offensive rookie

1129
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: of The, year and McMillan is a number three on

1130
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: twenty of the thirty two. Team you're pretty polish on

1131
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: some of these. GUYS i, mean we'll See godwin when he's.

1132
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: HEALTHY i mean he's been banged up a few. Times

1133
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: abuka is a stud. In Mike, evans like you, said

1134
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: consistent player isn't McMillan hurt right, now he's pretty. Good

1135
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: it's pretty. Good someone dm me and, said Could caleb

1136
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: become Like? Baker, like couldn't he be a similar player

1137
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: like and resurrect his career? Later baker was so much

1138
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: better in college in the, pocket, Like baker's a pretty

1139
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: natural pocket player for a smaller. Quarterback he is comfortable

1140
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 1: playing in that. Radius Caleb williams is. Not. So one

1141
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: Attribute baker brings the table is. POCKET i, mean look

1142
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: at the game winning touchdown from the pocket whatever a

1143
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: post over the middle of the field To abuka for

1144
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: the game winning. Touchdown caleb likes scrambling around and making

1145
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: Places baker. Hot take If baker was like six' five

1146
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: and could literally see everything like he Was Like peyton

1147
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: Manning or brady size with his arm, in accuracy he'd

1148
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: be in contention to be like a top. Five quarterback

1149
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: he does have limitations because their ability, to see just

1150
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: being a, shorter quarterback but he's a very natural player in.

1151
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: The pocket question for the bag do You Think ben

1152
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: johnson regrets not taking the commander's job to Be With.

1153
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: JAYDEN daniels, i mean it's kind of cross his. MIND now.

1154
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: I would, i, mean listen we get very emotional to,

1155
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: this right like this is a way. Better job Let's

1156
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: Say dan quinn is making nine, million dollars which is

1157
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: a ton. Of Money ben jonson is Making thirteen so

1158
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: if you extrapolate that over, five, year like it's a lot.

1159
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: More money so he got paid a ton of cash

1160
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: to take. THAT job i mean there's probably not ten

1161
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: guys in the league making More Than. Ben Johnson ben

1162
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: johnson's making a lot, of MONEY and i bet he would, Think,

1163
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: like okay this, doesn't work we'll figure. It, out now

1164
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: you could. Make way If jayde daniel was, A Star

1165
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: ben johnson could be you could be commanders for. Twenty

1166
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: years you might be making twenty million dollars in five

1167
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: years as the. Head coach so it's got across. His

1168
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: MIND but i had someone tell. ME who i don't

1169
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: know if He knows, ben well but he knew people

1170
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: around him that part of The reason ben pulled out

1171
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: wasn't just because Of the. Jaden situation he doesn't didn't

1172
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: feel he was quite, Ready YET and i do. RESPECT

1173
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: that i, Look Today ben johnson is like a year

1174
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: and a half younger. Than me i'm forty. Years old

1175
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: so when, we're talking this is like thirty six. Years

1176
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: old when you're in, these positions, you know not everyone

1177
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: Is theo Epstein Or howie roseman or, you know in

1178
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: these positions that, are, Like hey, Sean McVay i'll take on.

1179
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: The world give me the best. Position possible i'll figure.

1180
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: IT out i would have, been intimidated you know at. That,

1181
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: age hell i'd be, Intimidated now but it's part. Of

1182
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: life some people are not scared and some people just

1183
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: are a little more. Pragmatic, patient right he's already making

1184
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: a ton as the, offensive coordinator, but like, you know

1185
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: there's SOME things i could get. Better at i'm not,

1186
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: that comfortable which is Crazy because i'd rather Work For

1187
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:28,959
Speaker 1: josh Harris And. Adam peters like, looking back You Get,

1188
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: Josh Harris, Adam Peters, jayden daniels or you get, The Mccaskey's,

1189
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Warren, Ryan Poles. Caleb williams it's like you want

1190
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: to date a supermodel or the, you know the chubby

1191
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: chick that Works. AT wendy's i mean, it's, like, what yeah,

1192
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: let me how could he not how could that not

1193
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: keep him up? AT night a couple. More questions As a.

1194
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: RAMS fan i know All about josh McDaniel's non tom

1195
01:03:55,600 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: bradyo c. Offensive Performance the rams had the worst offense

1196
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: in the league in, twenty eleven finishing two. And fourteen

1197
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: he scored under two hundred points, that year only one year.

1198
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: Of sample he was fired with. Everyone ELSE but i

1199
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: think you have a point about The non. Brady performance

1200
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: it's a. LITTLE concerning I sometimes i'm as guilty as

1201
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: anyone of just kind of not going with, the crowd

1202
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: but just kind of assuming things that shouldn't, be Assumed

1203
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: like josh mcdam's a great. Offensive coordinator what are we?

1204
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: Talking about and then you, really, extrapolate, well Yeah Remove.

1205
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: Tom john we've been a head. Coach twice he got

1206
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: ran out of. The building all the offensive players, hated

1207
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: him like you said he was an offensive coordinator. AND

1208
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: not i have to go back, and look you probably

1209
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: didn't have great players On that, rams team but clearly

1210
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: did not. Go well and when He had belichick and

1211
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: when He, had tom he. Kicked ass now He's got

1212
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: Vrabel And drake may and they were. An embarrassment, And

1213
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: Listen max crosby's a. Good Player But khalil Mack And

1214
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: howie long aren't also on that. Defensive line who are

1215
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: the like the DEFENSIVE personnel i wouldn't say is, Like

1216
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: elite but what do They Have patrick graham who Is

1217
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: former patriot who's the, de Coordinator And pete carroll like

1218
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: they got high level defensive coaching With. The Raiders patrick

1219
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: graham Was actually josh McDaniels higher when he Got the.

1220
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: Raiders Job Made patrick graham's. Defensive Coordinator patrick graham's Really Impressive,

1221
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: Ivy League, Guy Belichick. Guy forever people think really highly,

1222
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: of them and He punked Josh And. Drake, MAY okay

1223
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: i will end on this at what Point does goff come?

1224
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: Under pressure goth looks great When the lions are favored

1225
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,479
Speaker 1: And With, ben johnson but over the last Few years

1226
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,479
Speaker 1: i've seen him look terrible IN big tv games Versus,

1227
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: the Ravens, the Packers, the bills and the playoffs Versus

1228
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: the niners And. The Commanders the lions have an elite

1229
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: roster better Than the vikings in twenty, Twenty Four Yet

1230
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: sam darnold got crushed last year for having two bad

1231
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: games despite, fourteen wins and GoF gets a. Free pass

1232
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: uh was one game right, this YEAR so i don't

1233
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: know if he's getting a. Free pass if he played

1234
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: at a month, like this it would be a. Major

1235
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: conversation the one thing he does not get a free

1236
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: pass on that's not. His fault he's not a. Good

1237
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: athlete so if your offensive line is gonna, have issues

1238
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: you guys are missing some guys, because retirement. Free agency

1239
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: he cannot, scramble around so that part Of what sam

1240
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: could do is. Move around this guy. Cannot Move and

1241
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm A jared. GOFF fan i like. THE human i

1242
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: think he's a, solid player but he has some major

1243
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: limitations if he's, getting scrammed if he's, getting pressured then

1244
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: not being able, to move which in this day, and

1245
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: age when defense is as fast as it's, ever been

1246
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: you could argue it's not. As physical guys aren't, as

1247
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: big but they're quicker. Than ever the amount of guys

1248
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: on the defense line running like four fives and four

1249
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: sixes has never. Been higher the amount of teams with

1250
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: good defensive tackles who can rush. The passer fifteen, years

1251
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 1: AGO when i first got IN, the nfl there were

1252
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: like two good interior. Pass rushers all the pass rushers

1253
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: coming from. The edge, most teams their defensive tackles were.

1254
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: Run stuffers every team now has a pass rushing interior,

1255
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: defensive lineman some. Have Multiple so jared, goff like if you,

1256
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: hit him he's not gonna. Be good he's one of

1257
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: those players THAT he's i think he's a better Version,

1258
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: Of cousins but once you start, pressuring him he crumbles like.

1259
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: A COOKIE and i think a huge thing with those

1260
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: guys is they. Cannot move So while Mahomes and Josh

1261
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: and lamar those guys move and, make plays those guys

1262
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: are stagnant and they're stuck in concrete and you can just.

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01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: Pepper them so if they were to Lose, THE bears

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01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: i think it would get, really ugly. Really fast but

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Speaker 1: if they win, THIS week i still think you guys

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01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: are gonna. Be okay my guess is, and listen he's

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Speaker 1: also he's not considered some, top Guy Neither. Sam darnold

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Speaker 1: so it's like We're Talking jared goffs considered like, the, seventh,

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: eighth ninth tenth, Best quarterback so he doesn't get criticized

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Speaker 1: the same way As Like justin herbert was being talked

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01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: about like he's in the tier with the, Top guys

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01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 1: so he takes a high level, of criticism and he's

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01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: just more Talented Like jared. Goff's talent got a, good arm,

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Speaker 1: he's accurate but he's like a, timing rhythm kind of

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Speaker 1: an old. SCHOOL player i say This to colin all.

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Speaker 1: The time when's the next time we're Gonna See jared

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Speaker 1: goff coming IN. The nfl the closest Thing, is Nessmyer

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Speaker 1: and nessmeyer is a better athlete. Than Him ness smyer,

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Speaker 1: to me is More Like jimmy Garoppolo when jimmy. Was

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Speaker 1: good you can move a. Little bit he's way more mobile.

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01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: Than golf those guys don't. Exist anymore guy comes to

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01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: the league cannot move him and COUSINS they i watch

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01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: college football all season Long. ON saturday i just don't

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01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: see those, type players especially that. Are good They don't they.

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Speaker 1: Don't exist so keep your fingers crossed that everything's Okay,

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Speaker 1: in detroit because if you were to lose, this week

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Speaker 1: it could, get weird and it get. Weird fast the

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Speaker 1: volume m