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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross, Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. It is Monday from BC Mortgage living
Speaker 1: Room here Frisco, Tunday. You guys will be happy to
Speaker 1: know that I actually went and bought the hardware to
Speaker 1: hang this up last night, but I just haven't had
Speaker 1: the time to hang it. Sure maybe abody even of
Speaker 1: the year, I'll have it up on the wall. So
Speaker 1: we've How are you guys doing today? How are we? Hey?
Speaker 1: The Bending New Era starts today. Baby, let's go, young guy,
Speaker 1: young guys, good lord, you know what I mean? You
Speaker 1: could start this show off and we could be really upset.
Speaker 1: Well we could. We could just be like, you know what, now,
Speaker 1: we know what we got, we know what we have.
Speaker 1: We have a bad football team on our hands. And
Speaker 1: this makes you feel good and doesn't and soft sod soft.
Speaker 1: So I tell you what's so amazing, man, It's for
Speaker 1: two weeks in a row on the ESPN National Tackle Chart.
Speaker 1: Uh done, Terry hasn't showed up. He's played in a game,
Speaker 1: but he's not had a tackle, three sack. It was
Speaker 1: third week in a row. Wow, way to playing a game. Done,
Speaker 1: not show up? Jayen Smith leads the league and tackles though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they ten yards off the lot of scrimmage, right right?
Speaker 1: All right? I got something to say. I don't say
Speaker 1: a lot very often, but this bothered me. This bothered
Speaker 1: me before it even became a big story, and now
Speaker 1: it's becoming a big story. Yesterday, when Andy Dalton was
Speaker 1: laying on the ground like he was in a UFC fight,
Speaker 1: motionless with his eyes rolled back in his head, I
Speaker 1: was so mad, like I was pissed off because no
Speaker 1: one acted like they cared. Like none of his teammates
Speaker 1: went after anybody. Nobody said anything, like, nobody pushed anybody.
Speaker 1: It was just like, damn, that looked like that hurt.
Speaker 1: I mean, that made me so angry, Like I don't
Speaker 1: understand that. Like Nate, if that would have been your
Speaker 1: quarterback back in the day, with the with the line
Speaker 1: that you guys had, y'all would have gone after somebody, Right, Nate,
Speaker 1: you're talking to me. You're talking to me because I
Speaker 1: am talking to you something I know. Let me, let me,
Speaker 1: let me, let me say this. And it's kind of
Speaker 1: a story. That same thing happened to Steve Pelori and
Speaker 1: thinking my first year starting was going against Chicago Bows
Speaker 1: and he slid like that and Mike's secretary took him out. Well,
Speaker 1: our guys, sadly to say, still to this day has
Speaker 1: a lingering effects from that hit. And nobody did nothing.
Speaker 1: Everybody just kind of looked around days we were bad team,
Speaker 1: was no unity and and and I think about it
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, nobody did a thing. I fast forward.
Speaker 1: Somebody even threatened Troy and I was all over him.
Speaker 1: That's the only way they will ever see Nate get
Speaker 1: mad on the football field if you cheap shotted em
Speaker 1: and he spoke about it, or if Troy say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: get the FLF off from me. I know you're doing
Speaker 1: and I went crazy. What is the difference. The difference is,
Speaker 1: and I hate to say this, it's the guys you
Speaker 1: believe in, and it's the guys you played for. And
Speaker 1: Coach mccarthur said it, these guys are not playing from
Speaker 1: one another. Shannon, I'm sorry. They can say what they want,
Speaker 1: they can be politically correct, but they're playing for their
Speaker 1: own individual lives and it's sad to say that, but
Speaker 1: that is what you saw yusterday. Now, Jesse, and you
Speaker 1: may you may have something totally different than what I
Speaker 1: have there. No, I was like Shannon, I was equally upset.
Speaker 1: But it told me all I needed to know, or
Speaker 1: it confirmed all the things that I already knew about
Speaker 1: this football team. And I was curious to hear what
Speaker 1: you were going to say today about this because just
Speaker 1: one of the closest and I do believe there is
Speaker 1: not a unit in any sport offense, defense, special team.
Speaker 1: There's not a unit more close knit than offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: There's not one. There's not one. And every group of
Speaker 1: offensive lineman that I've been with from any team at
Speaker 1: any level, there has been this innate, almost protective type
Speaker 1: thing that you have for your quarterback. In college, our
Speaker 1: star quarterback, the offensive lineman will just be with him
Speaker 1: at at the calf, at the club. It was just
Speaker 1: something about everywhere he went, you it was one of
Speaker 1: the big horses around with him. It was just it
Speaker 1: was just something about the dude who called the plays,
Speaker 1: who was under sinner we were to protect. And that
Speaker 1: was just something that I've always been a part of.
Speaker 1: I don't care how good or bad the teams have been.
Speaker 1: When I was with New England, a guy would have
Speaker 1: given up a lung, a heart, and a foot to
Speaker 1: protect Tom Brady. When I was with Cincinnati in a
Speaker 1: losing franchise, a guy, uh uh what would have given
Speaker 1: up whatever to protect Carson Palmer. And this was always
Speaker 1: a thing where the big uglies up front there was
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you're a handsome man, but sometimes
Speaker 1: you know back then, you know six body Championship, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you just protected that guy. You and anything that
Speaker 1: was just any And guys used to feel bad if
Speaker 1: your quarterback got sacked or if your quarterback got hit
Speaker 1: you hard, God would feel bad personally To me that
Speaker 1: it showed you all you needed to know about what
Speaker 1: the makeup of this football team is from LA and
Speaker 1: I went down the checklist and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: let me let me hear all the excuses. Andy Dalton's
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback. If that was Dac it would have
Speaker 1: been different. Then I was like, well, this offensive line
Speaker 1: is super young and they haven't played together with each other,
Speaker 1: so somebody's afraid to step up. But what better way
Speaker 1: to earn respect to your teammates than to go after
Speaker 1: somebody that it doesn't I can't make an excuse for
Speaker 1: any of that, because, oh that's your team, that's your team.
Speaker 1: Whoa what just happened? Was that? Oh man? That young
Speaker 1: sweat Jesse Holly's house falling down? Oh man? But like
Speaker 1: I could not, I can't make any excuse, Like even
Speaker 1: if even if you don't even hardly know the guy,
Speaker 1: even if that was been the newer or somebody out
Speaker 1: to practice, that is your teammate. That's your teammate, and
Speaker 1: a man took a cheap shot, and like, who knows?
Speaker 1: Could you could end the guy's career like that? And
Speaker 1: for somebody, no one, not a receiver, not a alignment,
Speaker 1: not nobody stepped I mean that just bothered me so
Speaker 1: bad when that happened. And I'm like, you, guys, that
Speaker 1: told me everything that I need to know. Shannon. What
Speaker 1: this team? This team I'm talking about the players, ain't
Speaker 1: about no coaches. This team has been a dollar shot
Speaker 1: in the day late every week. Remember three weeks ago,
Speaker 1: everybody questioning there, they want to their passion, getting to
Speaker 1: the ball, everything, and now next week we had like
Speaker 1: fifteen penalties for somebody, you know, coming up defending somebody
Speaker 1: in know it And that ain't your heart, that ain't
Speaker 1: your nature. So I hate to tell you to get
Speaker 1: over it, Bro, because I think them players as soon
Speaker 1: as it happened, as soon as they went to the
Speaker 1: next y, I think they was over it, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm just being honest. I mean, because you had
Speaker 1: multiple opportunities, multiple chances to come up, Like, let me
Speaker 1: tell you something, I promise you if you'd have did
Speaker 1: something to wanted their defensive line them Cole Holcom who
Speaker 1: ran through Zeke for sack tar heel. Just by the way,
Speaker 1: I want to mention that this was the shot heard
Speaker 1: around the world. We heard that through the TV. Everybody
Speaker 1: in the city that said, wow, Zeke got up looking around, Yeah, Zeke,
Speaker 1: we all saw it. Bro. You got ran through for
Speaker 1: a sack, and that let me knew what Washington stud.
Speaker 1: So if you would have tried to clip one of
Speaker 1: the players go out of their knees, it had been
Speaker 1: all that, It had been all that slaughter, Brom. That
Speaker 1: just had to go, So, I mean it took it
Speaker 1: to us. Oh, I agree with you guys. I mean
Speaker 1: I I was trying to rationalize it, like, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they're just they're young, you know, you you had
Speaker 1: a couple of with three rookies in there more or less,
Speaker 1: and a new guy playing his first game with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys on the on the left side. But still it's
Speaker 1: just it's like, you know, McCarthy himself kind of shamed him.
Speaker 1: He said he just didn't expect it. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just disappointing. Out of the whole day. That was
Speaker 1: probably the most disappointing thing. Is it just like you
Speaker 1: guys said, it just shows they're not playing for each other.
Speaker 1: And mister Jones Stephen Jones was on the flatsip station
Speaker 1: this morning and he said that, well asked about the question.
Speaker 1: You know, nobody didn't do a thing, and his thing was,
Speaker 1: I don't think everybody saw it. Wait, say, there's one football.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell everybody else is watching.
Speaker 1: There's one football in the game. He had the football
Speaker 1: and he began to run with the football and slid
Speaker 1: and got cold cought dirty play. What are the team
Speaker 1: looking at they in the stands they block. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean guys are maybe guys are locked up on
Speaker 1: their guys are blocking. You know, I could kind of
Speaker 1: see where they didn't actually see the hit. They just
Speaker 1: turned around and saw their quarterback on the ground. Right,
Speaker 1: let me say this, right, yeah, so I can help you. Okay,
Speaker 1: the reason he was scrambling is because you couldn't block
Speaker 1: your guy. So didn't you at least follow your guy?
Speaker 1: But you guys saw that he got So sometime there's
Speaker 1: no excuse. Sometimes you have to say I made him
Speaker 1: to stay. I do better, and what happened we cannot
Speaker 1: allow to happen again. And and that's how you move
Speaker 1: on from it, if you if you try to make
Speaker 1: up excuse out of the excuse, you know that that
Speaker 1: that but that goes along what we've done for the
Speaker 1: last six weeks for this team. You know, before we
Speaker 1: came on there, I say, fellas, it's sufficient. We're not
Speaker 1: a very good team. So now we can quit trying
Speaker 1: to find ways a hopeful ways, and now we can
Speaker 1: start looking towards the future. How are they gonna play this?
Speaker 1: You know, I know the coach is gonna say, well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna play Philadelphia and we're gonna see how that
Speaker 1: turn out. Well, whether you win, loses, or draw, you
Speaker 1: still Washington still win game up on you. So that
Speaker 1: means you gotta weit eight games and play Washington again
Speaker 1: and hope then pray that they lose. So y'all be
Speaker 1: tired for the division with eight with six wins. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's time. It's time to it's time to see
Speaker 1: what is what, what is real? And it's time to
Speaker 1: stop playing these young guys inside getting your team going
Speaker 1: in the right direction, the bend, the nuci era has started.
Speaker 1: Let's go what Jesse, I was just gonna say, you know,
Speaker 1: what do you do? Nate's got a great point. We
Speaker 1: know what this team is. Now does it look like
Speaker 1: you can fix it this year or soon enough to
Speaker 1: maybe get this thing on track where it makes a difference.
Speaker 1: What do you do from here? Where do you go?
Speaker 1: Do you do you start cleaning house? Do you how
Speaker 1: do you write? I mean I don't think you know
Speaker 1: if you can write the ship, But what do you
Speaker 1: do as a coaching staff and a ownership and a
Speaker 1: manager staff? What do you do from here? I know
Speaker 1: what the coach is gonna do. Hey, we're still in this.
Speaker 1: Fortunately we're still in it our division. Let's keep fighting.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying not the fight, which you still late
Speaker 1: on the fight. I'm still saying, keep trying. If you
Speaker 1: win six, seven, eight, maybe nine games, okay, that's fine,
Speaker 1: But you still got to get rid of what held
Speaker 1: you up. And it wasn't uh because your schemes was
Speaker 1: bad in every situation. It's because some players didn't want
Speaker 1: to fulfill that part of the deal. And you have
Speaker 1: to find a way to either shut that down, I
Speaker 1: get that out of here. So why would you not?
Speaker 1: Why would you wait to do that? Why wouldn't you
Speaker 1: just start doing it? Contracts? You you are, you are
Speaker 1: five six, seven weeks in now, and the guys out
Speaker 1: of here. Uh, you can get rid of them, you know,
Speaker 1: for some younger guys or some guys that's playing hard,
Speaker 1: you know, but they're not gonna do that. You know,
Speaker 1: you just ain't gonna you know, it's like a bad
Speaker 1: coperreator you know when it when it finally gives out,
Speaker 1: I get a new one. That's that's out of this situation.
Speaker 1: But but the thing is, Nate, sometimes you got to
Speaker 1: ride that bad copyright out to your income tax check
Speaker 1: COOM or to your you know, to your paydaycome. And
Speaker 1: and that's the unfortunate situation that we are living in
Speaker 1: right now in the NFC East, is that as bad
Speaker 1: as this team has been playing, and how as putrid
Speaker 1: and they have they have looked week in and week out,
Speaker 1: there is still hope that you can win this division.
Speaker 1: You can go out and beat Philly on Sunday and
Speaker 1: now you're right back in the mix of things, and
Speaker 1: that that that is the you you would wish that
Speaker 1: someone which would be just, you know, just so far
Speaker 1: ahead of the pack that you can say, you know what,
Speaker 1: we ain't catching X team, let's start looking for the future.
Speaker 1: But because this division is so sorry you, there is
Speaker 1: still a glimmer of hope. And as much as we
Speaker 1: don't want to even think about it or believe in it.
Speaker 1: And again we're from the outside looking in. We're not
Speaker 1: paid to coach this team, We're not paid to play
Speaker 1: on this team. Because if I'll tell you right now,
Speaker 1: if I was a player on this football team and
Speaker 1: I was getting paid to play, I would still believe that,
Speaker 1: you know what fellas if all we gotta do is
Speaker 1: beat Philly, and then in a couple more days we'll
Speaker 1: play Washington and then maybe, you know, we'll come to
Speaker 1: a shop where we may at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: we may have a chance at the end of the
Speaker 1: year to beat the Giants and win this division. But
Speaker 1: because we don't play for this team. We work for
Speaker 1: this team, but we don't play for this team, we
Speaker 1: don't have to have the same belief and hope that
Speaker 1: they do. As a coaching staff, you have no choice
Speaker 1: but to believe, Hey, if we fix this and this,
Speaker 1: and there's some hope, and there's some I don't have
Speaker 1: my hope shot on the day, but there is some.
Speaker 1: There is some thought process is, hey, we're so close
Speaker 1: to winning this division, but like it's in their mind
Speaker 1: they're so close, and we see them as being so
Speaker 1: far away. One of us is right on us. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I said, Now I agree as a coach and as
Speaker 1: a player. Oh yeah, because I remember one time we
Speaker 1: went and cheered up at the Cowboys Cafe for the
Speaker 1: Rams to beat somebody, for us to get it our
Speaker 1: first play off with Jimmy. We shot up there just
Speaker 1: watching the Rams, just filial away, and we went from
Speaker 1: getting drunk and having a great time to getting drunk
Speaker 1: and get some DW eyes. So I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying as a player to give up, and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying as a coach to give up. But
Speaker 1: I am saying as a general manager, as a scout,
Speaker 1: we need to shot looking to improve our team drastically.
Speaker 1: You have that ability as off Jim, as a scout
Speaker 1: to start looking forward what you already are. But now
Speaker 1: you intensify your look because what has happening in here
Speaker 1: is intensify. And I'm not being facetious when I say this,
Speaker 1: intensify your look how I meant so something that can
Speaker 1: help you, like like you mean bringing assets or trade
Speaker 1: away assets or give away No no, no no, no no
Speaker 1: no no no no, no no. We ain't got to
Speaker 1: trade away nothing. Offense is intact. Even with the young
Speaker 1: guys on the offensive line, as bad as they look yesterday,
Speaker 1: I'm still it's a high hope for me. My detriment
Speaker 1: and my dum it sets on one side of the
Speaker 1: ball that's defensively. I don't care whether to draft them,
Speaker 1: I don't care whether you get free agents. I don't
Speaker 1: care how you do it. This thing can't be looking
Speaker 1: like this right here. And I understand it may improve
Speaker 1: by the injury of the year, but this thing can't
Speaker 1: be looking and starting out the same way next year.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't totally agree with I know we
Speaker 1: gotta go to break Shannon, but I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: totally agree with you on that. To debate you like
Speaker 1: to debate. Curtain made that they come back for this baby.
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Speaker 1: spoken and disagree with Nate. Let's go Kurt Well. Two
Speaker 1: things I have questions about. One. I find it hard
Speaker 1: to believe that you know you're saying McCarthy wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to make a change. He wouldn't. He's just gonna tell
Speaker 1: his players we can still do this. We can still
Speaker 1: do this, and leave it to the general manager or
Speaker 1: the ownership to make changes to the roster. I would
Speaker 1: think mccarthur would be like, get these guys out, give
Speaker 1: me some guys with some attitude, Give me some guys
Speaker 1: who are going to buy into this system. I'm tired
Speaker 1: of this. As some people have said, country club atmosphere.
Speaker 1: Let's get some I would think mccarthury would be spear
Speaker 1: hitting that he is, but that season has started and
Speaker 1: guys are playing and all the valuable pieces that may
Speaker 1: have helped us were sapped up in the first three weeks.
Speaker 1: You know, the injuries happened, and guys in the better
Speaker 1: teams in the league that said, old man, we gotta
Speaker 1: shot it winning. We three and old whatever, we four it.
Speaker 1: Old hey, we need a run defender, you know, like
Speaker 1: like last night Seattle needed to run defender bad. It
Speaker 1: was like, where's Snacks Arison. We need to get him
Speaker 1: off the practice squad this week, but it was too late.
Speaker 1: So all the better assets are gone. So you have
Speaker 1: to you have to go within your team to try
Speaker 1: to find these players. And and this young guys like
Speaker 1: we had our nests, our niss the guy from Utah,
Speaker 1: he ain't active outside linebrcker. He's yeah, so uh me,
Speaker 1: I just believe this and I've seen it. You know.
Speaker 1: Coach Landry did not want to let go his veterans.
Speaker 1: Coach Johnson came in and say, you guys have done
Speaker 1: a great job. He did not try them under them wrongly.
Speaker 1: He told him, see, y'all guys have done a great job,
Speaker 1: but my college team is faster than y'all. And he
Speaker 1: just slowly started getting these guys out respectfully just started
Speaker 1: getting them out until he had the young, fast, uh
Speaker 1: hyper hyper team. I mean, did you do that during
Speaker 1: this season? Yes, he was changing it during the season.
Speaker 1: I mean I remember Isaac Hope, great player from Minnesota,
Speaker 1: one on one cornerback from Minnesota, played well for US
Speaker 1: as soon as he got Pup Pup Smith first round
Speaker 1: pick out of Texas and him, you know, part of
Speaker 1: that young young wrecking crew. I remember it was against
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Uh, Isaac Hope got take took
Speaker 1: him deep by the great Jerry Rice, and he looked
Speaker 1: over at UH coach camp and say that, uh Smith
Speaker 1: been not come out of the game. That's all he said.
Speaker 1: Smith been not come out of the game. So that
Speaker 1: at matter that you knew they were gonna be ike.
Speaker 1: I saw him do that with me. He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a new right tackle. His name is
Speaker 1: Eric Wives. I'm like, that's my job. Well, it was
Speaker 1: my job, so I went to politics and got Kevin
Speaker 1: Golden's job. You didn't just politic you earned it. You
Speaker 1: got in there and playing ball. So yeah, yeahs later
Speaker 1: he see it. Anyways, But here, okay, here's my other question.
Speaker 1: I mean, this team hasn't giving you any indication they
Speaker 1: can win this division. I mean, it just got steamrolled
Speaker 1: by the Redskins. Are off or sorry Washington? Who is awful?
Speaker 1: I mean the trade deadline is what a week and
Speaker 1: a half away? No assets? Jesse, Utah? Now why not?
Speaker 1: Why not? Wait? Wait? Not one of my assets? I'm
Speaker 1: saying it's been safeties. Why it's been safeties and a
Speaker 1: couple of defensive players besides safeties that's been out there
Speaker 1: that has been free that I would have given some
Speaker 1: assets for. Now we're in the season. I'm not. It's
Speaker 1: nobody out there I feel, and that's I'm not in.
Speaker 1: The great safety from University to that played for the
Speaker 1: Seahawks that started the lesion a Boom. I would not
Speaker 1: even trade for him at this time. No, you're not
Speaker 1: under I'm not buying. I'm selling you got you got,
Speaker 1: you got it. I've got a handful of guy. Handful
Speaker 1: of guys I wouldn't are untouchable. I wouldn't trade Zach Martin.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade Jack Prescott, some of the young guys
Speaker 1: cde Lamb, I wouldn't trade them. Otherwise, if you got
Speaker 1: an interest, give me a call. I mean now's the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, why not if you're gonna change your attitude,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna change, what's gonna happen in the future
Speaker 1: this season? I mean, I hope it's not, but it's
Speaker 1: showing all indications of being lost. Why aren't you building
Speaker 1: for the future. Why aren't you changing this attitude you get?
Speaker 1: You want to make a deal, you give me a call, yes, Jess,
Speaker 1: I think the only thing when you're looking at certain things,
Speaker 1: there are certain guys who are tradeable, but there are
Speaker 1: also certain guys like in order to have trade, it
Speaker 1: has to be a two way street, and there are
Speaker 1: some guys who people may say, hey, let's trade so songs.
Speaker 1: So yes, you got. A team has to have enough
Speaker 1: if that player will play yours, if they have a
Speaker 1: big contract, if they have big contract numbers, does another
Speaker 1: team want to pick up those salaries to pick up
Speaker 1: those contracts? And then on top of that, you know,
Speaker 1: you look around and you say, oh, let's let's trade
Speaker 1: a guy like Don Terryo Poe. Well, hell, it's Seven
Speaker 1: Games a film that these other thirty one teams are
Speaker 1: watching and saying, we don't want him. Just let Bubba y'all.
Speaker 1: I don't want them. We see what he's doing for y'all.
Speaker 1: He can't help us none if he's doing that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like a lot of
Speaker 1: the assets that we want to get a give away
Speaker 1: or trade. Other teams are saying, oh no, there's a reason.
Speaker 1: We see why you want to trade them, See why
Speaker 1: you want to let them go. So why give up
Speaker 1: anything for Why give up anything for don Terry Pope? Oh,
Speaker 1: I totally agree. It's gonna be hard to get rid
Speaker 1: of some of these key guys that you want to
Speaker 1: get rid of. I mean a guy like Poe, I
Speaker 1: mean that, that's a guy you may just have to drop.
Speaker 1: I mean, and he didn't hit the stat sheet in
Speaker 1: three weeks. But you've got other guys like Griffin. I mean,
Speaker 1: I would again, I would look at if you if
Speaker 1: you're interested in somebody, give me a call. Now's the time.
Speaker 1: I mean. Jimmy Johnson, everybody thought he was bonkers portraying
Speaker 1: away herschel Walker, but he knew he couldn't win with him,
Speaker 1: So it's a time to rebuild the team and win
Speaker 1: with you know, lose without him, and plan for the
Speaker 1: future there, you know, in some ways. I think they're
Speaker 1: in that same spot. Now call us up, we'll see
Speaker 1: what we can do. Let me ask you this, and
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you at all, Kurt, but do
Speaker 1: you think from a marketing standpoint, and we know what
Speaker 1: a marketing machine this is, when you start doing things
Speaker 1: like that, it gives the perception that you're you've given
Speaker 1: up on the season, right, do you think that would
Speaker 1: give off a perception that, hey, we're rebuilding and from
Speaker 1: a marketing standpoint, that your fans are going to check
Speaker 1: out and you know just what saying exactly, well, that's
Speaker 1: exactly you only bring in twenty fusan. The people are
Speaker 1: gonna come to the games if they know the direction
Speaker 1: you're going in. Right now, tell me the direction you
Speaker 1: think the majority of the fans of the Dallas Cowboys, Timmy, Hey,
Speaker 1: if I'm a fan right now of the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: which I am, tell me which direction are they going in?
Speaker 1: Give me a concrete evidence of which way they're going. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you might actually gain some fans, thank you, because people
Speaker 1: are saying, okay, okay, now I can start believing in
Speaker 1: this team because we're making some moves or making some
Speaker 1: changes at this point in time, Like we're all on
Speaker 1: social media, We're all we're seeing what the reaction is
Speaker 1: from all the fans. We see what, you know, what
Speaker 1: they're saying, how they how they feel. There has to
Speaker 1: be something. There has to be something concrete that conflict
Speaker 1: that is done to show. I'll say this and here
Speaker 1: we go with anonymous sources, right, I like it. I
Speaker 1: talked to someone this past weekend who has played in
Speaker 1: this league, has coached in this league, who is very smart,
Speaker 1: and I take their word as their word as a man,
Speaker 1: and they said this team is not well coached. And
Speaker 1: he said there are players on this team that are playing,
Speaker 1: starting on this team that should not be in the league.
Speaker 1: Not on this team, he's saying that are playing that
Speaker 1: are getting valuable minutes that probably should not be in
Speaker 1: the league. And he said this team will take about
Speaker 1: four years to completely turn around and get them back
Speaker 1: where they need to go. That's how much churning of
Speaker 1: this roster has to happen to get them to a
Speaker 1: place where they're getting rid of some of these players
Speaker 1: who they said are not good. And that's this person
Speaker 1: said that coaching is not good. You know, in a
Speaker 1: lot of areas. But he said, there's players who are
Speaker 1: playing significant minutes on this team that should not be
Speaker 1: in the league. That's where we're at right now with
Speaker 1: this football team. What's what's wrong? I saw as he
Speaker 1: can keep that to itself, cause yeah, for real? Wow, Wow,
Speaker 1: I just got quiet? Can I dry? You know? Can
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Speaker 1: I think we brought before we before we go to
Speaker 1: the next thing, I do want to issue a public apology.
Speaker 1: I have to be a man, and I have to
Speaker 1: issue a public apology. This scares me, Jesse, this scares me,
Speaker 1: But go ahead, no, yeah, I Jess, No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: We're fine. About two and a half weeks ago, when
Speaker 1: Dak went down with the injury, I came on this
Speaker 1: very show with a ton of optimism and good energy
Speaker 1: and positive energy, and I said that the drop off
Speaker 1: from Andy, from Dak Prescott to Andy Dalton shouldn't shouldn't
Speaker 1: be that big of a drop off. And I begin
Speaker 1: to list all of these numbers about how many starts
Speaker 1: he had, I mean touchdowns he's had, and I want
Speaker 1: to issue a public apology and say that I was
Speaker 1: absolutely wrong. Not only was I wrong, I was dead wrong.
Speaker 1: And it is the size of the grand canyon of
Speaker 1: the drop off from Dak Prescott to Andy Dalton. They
Speaker 1: ain't ain't on the same atmosphere. They ain't even in
Speaker 1: the same stratosphere. They ain't on the same planet. Dak
Speaker 1: is head and shoulders above anything that we have at
Speaker 1: the quarterback position on this roster. And I thought after
Speaker 1: week one, maybe he'll get it. No no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, no no. Dak is so much more,
Speaker 1: not only as a player, but as a voice, as
Speaker 1: the heart and soul of this football team, as the
Speaker 1: leader of this football team before we even get to
Speaker 1: his play, so much more than we put that we
Speaker 1: can even put a tangible value to. And we're witnessing that.
Speaker 1: We're witnessing when when when a team I was trying
Speaker 1: to think of the quote earlier when Michael Irby used
Speaker 1: to talk about he said something like, you know, you
Speaker 1: beat a man by attacking his weaknesses, but you break
Speaker 1: a man by attacking his strengths. When our strength went
Speaker 1: away in Dak Prescott, this team was broken. The spirit,
Speaker 1: the soul, the core of what this team was. When
Speaker 1: when when that ankle broke, the core and the spirit
Speaker 1: of this team broke. And we're seeing, we're seeing the
Speaker 1: dividends of that. Right now, we're seeing it without a
Speaker 1: shadow of a doubt. And this is the reason why
Speaker 1: this man should be paid what he's asked for, because
Speaker 1: we're watching what this team looks like without him. Just
Speaker 1: think about what he was able to do and how
Speaker 1: he kept this thing afloat a little bit like there
Speaker 1: wasn't even there was no contest against the football team
Speaker 1: of Washington on Sunday with Andy Dalton understanding before he
Speaker 1: went out. So let me public. I was wrong. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: You can tweat me, say whatever you want. I was wrong.
Speaker 1: The drop off is as far as heavens is from
Speaker 1: the earth. I agree, it is before you get started. Uh.
Speaker 1: If you want to know what that means, let's until
Speaker 1: our flagship station. And I listened to it yesterday every
Speaker 1: other caller. I'm sorry, I didn't know what we had.
Speaker 1: Now see what we had. We need her and get
Speaker 1: this guy signed, so you know, let the dogs out, Kurt.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, I'm with you, Jess. I couldn't
Speaker 1: have said in a more positive wake as all last week.
Speaker 1: I'm clapping it up. I'm clapping it up. And I
Speaker 1: still think Andrew Dalton is a good NFL quarterback, but
Speaker 1: Dak is a super NFL quarterback. I agree. I think
Speaker 1: we all thought it wouldn't be that much to drop off.
Speaker 1: But the problem even worse is Dalton is a good quarterback,
Speaker 1: but he needs a good line. He needs a good
Speaker 1: offensive line. He's got a patchwork offensive line, and that's
Speaker 1: just making every magnifying everything, making it even worse. You know, Fellas,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, man, and he won't be
Speaker 1: back this week. Least I wouldn't bring him back. I
Speaker 1: would have to make sure year he's two hundred percent
Speaker 1: before I bring him back. Uh. And I know for
Speaker 1: the very reasons that Jesse and and we have all
Speaker 1: spoken about earlier, that we're still in this NFC East race.
Speaker 1: But you know what I let, being the news play,
Speaker 1: I would and I know it don't make sense because
Speaker 1: we're still in the race. So we gotta rush and
Speaker 1: the Dalton back and and pray that he's one hundred
Speaker 1: percent healthy. But I'm tell you something, Fellas, Kurt, me
Speaker 1: and you are not too far apart. They ain't the
Speaker 1: heavens and earth that got me and you split that
Speaker 1: far apart. The same thing, man. Yeah, just to recap
Speaker 1: from that injury. Um Andy Dalton concussion is in concussion protocol,
Speaker 1: and they said at that time he doesn't remember it
Speaker 1: even happening. So that's where he's at as far as
Speaker 1: the concussion, Like he doesn't remember what happened after that,
Speaker 1: like after they hit, doesn't remember the hit, doesn't remember
Speaker 1: any of that. So I don't know how along from
Speaker 1: you not knowing what even happened to you until you
Speaker 1: actually starting to football. I don't know. I don't I'm
Speaker 1: not a doctor. I don't know what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: That happened to me one time Jesse doing the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: game and I got, uh, you know, I hit my
Speaker 1: head on One of the guys showed up and I
Speaker 1: remember hitting my head on the ship because I was
Speaker 1: trying to head But I'm like, big, I missed it
Speaker 1: hit his show. So I here with father that I
Speaker 1: thought they should have and I don't even remember nothing.
Speaker 1: I don't remember nothing. I went to the sideline and
Speaker 1: they like, can you remember anything I remember Brett Brant Day,
Speaker 1: can you remember? I like no, no, no, no no no,
Speaker 1: And I looked up and I and Deane, sided to
Speaker 1: be my best friend, started laughing. Look at the big elephant.
Speaker 1: Can't remember nothing. So I started crying, and then all
Speaker 1: of us, and then once I got and then as
Speaker 1: time went on, I started remember. So each guy is
Speaker 1: a little bit different than I'm hoping play this guy
Speaker 1: in the game. Uh did they put now? Don't I think?
Speaker 1: I think? Uh? I think we had already won the game.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but see, I'm gonna tell her her Man
Speaker 1: back in the day, you you knew we went back
Speaker 1: in the game, just absolutely, I would have been losing it.
Speaker 1: I remembered everything I'd have been back in the game,
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm looking at behind you over your
Speaker 1: right shoulder, Jestice that got knocked you out? That picture
Speaker 1: you always was that a you know that guy behind
Speaker 1: you on your twenty five yard game, Terrence McGuinn. You
Speaker 1: know you just say that with Chase. Y'all just ran
Speaker 1: behind you earlier in the show. Y'all don't know what
Speaker 1: happened by me, I will tell you something, fellas. Uh.
Speaker 1: I'm not I am not mad. You know. I've been
Speaker 1: laughing and giggling because I know that the guys that
Speaker 1: owned this team, the scouts, the coach is not allowed
Speaker 1: to think, but they can see it, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: say things to mask this. But bet I bet you
Speaker 1: that the head chief of scouts. I promise you he's
Speaker 1: beaten down the bushes. He's on top of his scouts.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you saying, brother, this cannot happen again. And
Speaker 1: far as letting a coach, I thought we had enough
Speaker 1: of Rod Marinelli bringing guys in him. As far as
Speaker 1: another coach trying to bring a player in him, I
Speaker 1: would never let that happen again if it ain't coming
Speaker 1: through my scouts because somebody, for the four or five
Speaker 1: free ass we signed, somebody need to pay for that.
Speaker 1: Somebody need to pay for that. Bro. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you guys, throw this out there. It ain't It's not
Speaker 1: happening this week, may not happen this year. But do you,
Speaker 1: guys think, do you have faith in this coaching staff
Speaker 1: to turn this thing around as it started? I do?
Speaker 1: I do? Yeah, I do? Man? What kind of timeline
Speaker 1: do you think we're looking at next year? Two years?
Speaker 1: I don't know, But I'm gonna tell you what. If
Speaker 1: I'm a cornerback and I'm in anything that allows me
Speaker 1: to be one on one with a player, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: find out within this scheme, and I'm gonna play my man,
Speaker 1: because when you see guys get ran by and looking
Speaker 1: in the backfield, there's no excuse for that. If I
Speaker 1: go up to Diggs right now and tell him, which
Speaker 1: I won't because I can't get any coach country, say
Speaker 1: Son four across, what is that? Jesson? Basically one on one?
Speaker 1: Am I correct? How did you get ran by? And
Speaker 1: that coverage? You can't get ranned by the coverage? Son,
Speaker 1: you played at Alabama. Nick Saban is a master in
Speaker 1: defensive scheme coverages on the back end. Son, Don't don't
Speaker 1: do that. If you have to go and rely on
Speaker 1: what got you here, it's your cover skills. Go back
Speaker 1: to that Woozia used to be a great guy back
Speaker 1: in college. Cover guy. Go back to who you are, bro,
Speaker 1: Say coach, I'm just gonna hook up on this dude,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna play this dude, because you know, until
Speaker 1: I can learn what you're talking about so I can
Speaker 1: get an all season, I'm in a hook up on
Speaker 1: this guy and play. It comes to point as a
Speaker 1: player where you got to say, now I'm finning play
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin, get on in your four point stands. Bro,
Speaker 1: but don't get hooked. I'm seeing you armstrong and and
Speaker 1: and and tank longs get hooked by tight ends number
Speaker 1: eighty two. Not only catching passes on everybody, he hooking
Speaker 1: hot hooking our defensive ends. How do you do that?
Speaker 1: Come on, fellas, Come on now, Kurt Man. You froze
Speaker 1: right here. You gotta pretty smile, man, but I'm talking.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So yeah, my WebEx FROs some man. I
Speaker 1: don't know what happened, fellas, But Jess, you're seeing the
Speaker 1: same thing. How do you get How do a guy
Speaker 1: by the name Antonio Gibson, who were averaging Russian for
Speaker 1: US sixty yards a game red Skins as a whole
Speaker 1: averaging eighty two yards a game Russian wind up with
Speaker 1: two hundred and eight yards five point three per carry one.
Speaker 1: Tro We are the Jallas, listen, we are the Dallas
Speaker 1: Pharmaceutical Cowboys. Made you said it. You said it the
Speaker 1: opposite way when we went to play. Who was the
Speaker 1: Giant Giants? Giants? No teams look at us that way?
Speaker 1: You you you were you were right in your assessessment,
Speaker 1: wrong in your team. When that joker ain't rushed for
Speaker 1: fifty yards all year, they had as a team, they
Speaker 1: averaged eighty three rushing yards a game. They had eighty
Speaker 1: five in the first quarter. We are the elixir. We
Speaker 1: are the feel good when someone is ailing and feeling down.
Speaker 1: We are the chicken soup for their football souls. When
Speaker 1: they see the Dallas Cowboys on the schedule, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, jokers perk up. They're feeling good. This is
Speaker 1: my moment to get whatever snod I was on, to
Speaker 1: get off that snod, to get my stats up, to
Speaker 1: get my reps up and look good. We are the
Speaker 1: Dallas Pharmaceutical Cowboys. That's who we are now. Whoever we played,
Speaker 1: whoever we play, whether home or away. When we at home,
Speaker 1: the visiting team come in, they send police escorts to
Speaker 1: make sure that we get to the stadium on time.
Speaker 1: When we got to fly to an away game, they
Speaker 1: sending whatever those those flighted jets that fly over, they
Speaker 1: sending those to air Force Cowboy one to make hey listen,
Speaker 1: paying extra money to make sure this play lands. Chiefly, yes, stop,
Speaker 1: let that PLANU stop. Do not let this plane miss it.
Speaker 1: Stop when they get off, make sure make sure we
Speaker 1: got somebody on the handrails walking. We get it. We
Speaker 1: get it. We get it, Jesse, get it. All the
Speaker 1: police force of our city around the bus, quarantine the hotel.
Speaker 1: Don't let nobody can out lay Jesse. Jesse. We gotta go,
Speaker 1: We gotta go, Jesse. Jesse to me, continue to borrow,
Speaker 1: make your list. We'll go over to get the ball.
Speaker 1: Got na Kurt sit to me, continue Chris stakes for
Speaker 1: keeping us on there. Sorry we read late. We'll be
Speaker 1: back tomorrow the same time, same place, hang out with
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