1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load from 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is. 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: On the air. 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: It's Charlie from BlackBerry Smoke. I can feel a good 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: one coming on. 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 3: It's the Michael Berry Show. Any attempt to restrict drinking 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: and driving here is viewed by some as downright undemocratic. 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: Stationary and would like to read along. 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: The accompanying materials on the worksheet for the next discussion 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 3: will be degree free dot com. Degree free dot com. 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: This woman helps folks get jobs without buying college degree 12 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: tech to trades, she describes it. She's based in Montgomery, Texas, 13 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: and that gives me occasion to patrip to. I believe 14 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: the late Great I think he passed because I never 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: got to meet him, and I was bummed about this 16 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: relatively recently. 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Right, Oh, this is not right. 18 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 3: Francis Rodney Zambone, I believe it was his name. Francis 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: Rodney Zambone was from Montgomery. He wrote under the name 20 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: Mark James. I wish he'd kept Zambone because I think 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: that's a I mean, Frank Zambone. I like that better 22 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: than Mark Jane. Mark James is just anyway. He wrote 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: always on my mind that Elvis made famous Moody Blue 24 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: Suspicious Minds. The only Elvis song ramone that I ever 25 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: know of being covered with any facility, with any success, 26 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: and that was Dwight Yoakum's version. And that's because he 27 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: kind of he took it to punk country, and so 28 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: that changed the style, and I think that's the only 29 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: reason I tolerated. He wrote, uh, hooked on a feeling? 30 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: Or what's his name for bj Thomas? Anyway, he was 31 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: from Montgomery, She's from what That's all he wrote? I 32 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: just a few what he wrote? Her name is Hannah 33 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: or Hannah? Before we ask her, what do you think 34 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: it is? You're gonna go Hannah? Okay, Hannah Mario Maru Yama, 35 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: Maru Yama probably a good Japanese name. The website is 36 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: degree Free. This is the kind of thing that I 37 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: think could help a lot of folks. So, Hannah or Hannah, 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: which is it? 39 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 4: It's Hannah, It's Hannah. Thank you so much for having 40 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 4: me on. Michael. 41 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: Now tell me you reached out to me with a 42 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: kind of here's what I do or your PR person 43 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: did or whatever. Did you know this is something that 44 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: don't lie? Did you know this is something that I 45 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: talk about often or were you just scattershotting out there 46 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: to everybody that might put. 47 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: You on. 48 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: No, sir, I had a list and you were on. 49 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: It, and I did. I did do a little bit. 50 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: Of research prior before I gave I gave instructions to 51 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: my to my guy to reach out. 52 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: Okay, your site degree free dot com. The book you 53 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: can get wherever you buy books. It's called Degree Free 54 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: Way Workbook. 55 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: Parent. 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: What is your purpose here? What are you trying to accomplish? 57 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: What I'm trying to do is I am trying to 58 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: keep the next generation of Americans out of unnecessary student 59 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: loan debt, and I am trying to save them hundreds 60 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars in years of their lives that 61 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: they do not have to spend on a college campus 62 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: learning from people who have never done the things that 63 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: they're teaching them how to do. 64 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 3: And what got you interested? You have experience with you 65 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: in your own life or with your children with this. 66 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 4: I do so. 67 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: I personally just finished working in AI and machine learning 68 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: for the past three and a half almost four years, 69 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: and I built a fairly successful tech career where I 70 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: out earned the media and PhD by I would say 71 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: probably about two hundred and fifty percent. And I did 72 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: that without buying a college degree myself. And seeing what 73 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: I saw when I was doing that really helped me 74 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: to understand how employers are hiring in the disconnect and 75 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: the amount of misinformation there is around what parents think 76 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: their kids have to do to get the jobs that 77 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: are actually going to help them live the way they 78 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: want to. 79 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you're a redhead. 80 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: Did you know she's a redhead? Jud sound like a redhead? 81 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: What is your maiden name? O'Shaughnessy or for. 82 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: It's it's Shattck. But yes, I am very Irish. My 83 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: husband's the Hawaiian Japanese one. 84 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: Well, Hawaiian Japanese is our executive producer, Chad Makanishi. 85 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: So you're in good company here. I'm looking at your 86 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: at your. 87 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's he's thicker than Chad, but I think 88 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: Chad could take him because Chad fights every day. 89 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: And what is mister? What is mister? He's a boxer? 90 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I was asking if Chad was a boxer. 91 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: He's a ground game guy. 92 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: Although if I'm bragging on him at this point, he says, 93 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: I'm not any good anymore. 94 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: But he's got the cauliflower ears. 95 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: He trains every day, but he can't strike anymore because 96 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: his shoulders destroyed and he doesn't want to have another 97 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: surgery on it. He has absolutely ruined his body by 98 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: fighting so much, so long. He came back the other 99 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: day and he had a big old scrape across his leg. 100 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: And he leaves in the middle of the day. So 101 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: we work like two shit. He gets in insanely early. 102 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: He gets up and works out at two thirty. He 103 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 3: gets in it I think four or four thirty, who knows, 104 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: nobody's here yet, And he preps all the way up 105 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: till eleven thirty, leaves, goes and trains, and then comes 106 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: back at two and then he's here for who knows 107 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 3: however many hours, like he works a graveyard shift compared 108 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: to the rest of us, because it's all he has 109 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: to get. 110 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: His training in. So what does mister maru Yama do. 111 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: Mister Marialma runs all of the other side of the business, 112 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: so that all I get to do is talk about 113 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: the problems that I see, the solutions that we can make, 114 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: and then work with the young adults. 115 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 4: And so he does all the boring. 116 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: Back of the house stuff for the business, so I 117 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: can do all the fun stuff. 118 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: So I look y'all up, and it says, I don't 119 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: know how old you are now, but y'all were twenty 120 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: nine and twenty six at the time you were living 121 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: in Honolulu. I'm assuming that's where he's from. Chad's from 122 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: the Big Island by the way, and then and you're 123 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: from Montgomery. Y'all decided to come back here. 124 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: So I'm actually not from Montgomery myself, my husband, and 125 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: my husband is from Hawaii. He his entire family is 126 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: from there. I lived there when my dad was in 127 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: the military, and that's actually how we ended up meeting. 128 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: But we moved to Montgomery during COVID because Hawaii got 129 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: pretty crazy during the lockdowns, and so we decided that 130 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: that was not a fit for our family and the 131 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: things that we wanted to the way we wanted to 132 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: live our lives, and so we came here. 133 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: We picked it off a spreadsheet, we did. 134 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: A bunch of research about places that were good to live, 135 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: and this is the place that we ended up and 136 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: we've been here for four years and. 137 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: We love it. 138 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: That's crazy. Nobody's in Montgomery from Hawaii. Because they found 139 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: people were in Montgomery because they got a job, their 140 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: family lived there, and they they're there and they like it. 141 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: But nobody looks at the mountain and says, well, I 142 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: guess we'll end up in Montgomery, Texas. 143 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: That is nuts. 144 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 4: We did, Okay, it was top of the list. It 145 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 4: was top of the Excel sheet. 146 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: Did you go toge. 147 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 4: I did not. 148 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm degree free, so I guess technically I did. 149 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: Like a disease, I'm degree free. I'm safe. 150 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 2: Well have you have you if you've met a recent 151 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: college graduate, you know it is a little bit, but 152 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: you know, I went for about I actually got into 153 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: a university when I was sixteen. I do well enrolled 154 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: where I grew up in Savannah, Georgia, because my dad 155 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: was stationed there in between me moving back to Hooi, 156 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: and I ended up fully dual enrolled. And then my 157 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 2: experience in college was that I did not do well 158 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: because I ask why too often, and my professors were 159 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: not interested in people that ask why and don't adhere 160 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: to the orthodoxy that's present on campus. 161 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 4: And because of. 162 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: That, I wasn't I think that the way that I thought, 163 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: or the questions that I asked were more of an inconvenience, 164 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: which kind of shocked me because I wasn't expecting it 165 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: to be so anti intellectual when I went on a 166 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: college campus, all. 167 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: On just just a moment, Hannah, Yeah, that Hannah Shattuck 168 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: from Maria. 169 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: One must dignity to come up with the right kind. 170 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: With Michael Barry, that's how I found my first ten wives. 171 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: Number of years ago. 172 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: There were a group of us I grew up all 173 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: about the same age. Our kids were about the same age, 174 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: and there was they were from all different schools, but 175 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 3: they had grown up together playing ball. 176 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 4: And. 177 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: They were. 178 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: I guess my son was a junior at the time, 179 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: maybe a sophomore. Michael t was probably junior or sophomore. 180 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: One of the kids was a senior, and some of 181 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: the other kids were seniors. And so it started with 182 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 3: the natural questions by mommies. They don't mean ill, they're 183 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 3: just trying to engage with the kids. It's hard to 184 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: engage with teenagers. 185 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do? 186 00:08:59,360 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: So do? 187 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: What do you gduate? What are you gonna do? You graduate? 188 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: When you graduate high school? And they all told where 189 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: they were going to go to school. Georgia U t 190 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: A and m TCU. The one kid said I'm going 191 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: to work, and it was like the oxygen was sucked 192 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: out of the room. 193 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: What are you going to do? 194 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to start with a plumbing company. I think 195 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: I want to be a plumber. Start with a plumbing company, 196 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: and then if I like it, I'm going to go 197 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 3: to plumbing school. So they start asking questions like he 198 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 3: had just he had just become a quadriplegic. The questions 199 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: were things like, well, what do you what? 200 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: What will you get paid? What if you get hurt? 201 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: Do you do you? Have you ever done that before? 202 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: It was a it was a cross between mommy panic, 203 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: desperate panic, and Dad's thinking, oh, you're gonna regret that. 204 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: And I don't know what the kid what will happen? 205 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: But I know I've watched a lot of kids go 206 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: off to college. Mommy and Daddy spend a freaking fortune. 207 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: When you hear numbers of what people spend for college, 208 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you, in some of the circles 209 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 3: I run, those numbers you're hearing reported are way low. 210 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: TCU at Miami, they're spending over one hundred thousand dollars 211 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: per year. It's insane and many times I've seen this happen, 212 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: many times, way more than you realize. They go there 213 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 3: and flunk out, they go there and get in trouble, 214 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: they go there and get distracted, they go there and 215 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: fall out of love with this concept of you know, 216 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: the same path that everybody else has been on. So 217 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 3: they pull to Charlie Robinson and go work on uh 218 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: you know, go work out in. 219 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: The oil patch and. 220 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: Go find themselves, or go to the military, or go 221 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: to cops school, or go to firefighter school. 222 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: So we need to be. 223 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: Careful that we don't assume the natural thing you ought 224 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: to do when you graduate high school's go to college. 225 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 3: Our guest is Hannah Mariyama. The website is degree Free. 226 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: I was poking around on it during the break. There's 227 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: a lot there and you can learn a lot about her. 228 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: And then she's got books. There's a one on one 229 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: you can do with her. And yes, it will cost money. 230 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: I know people nobody has a problem paying for some things, 231 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: but they don't want to pay for other things. It's 232 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: the craziest thing that legal work is the funniest one 233 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 3: for me, Hannah. People would, hey, you have a lawyer 234 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: who just looked this over me real quick. Yeah, before 235 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: I do that, what's your budget of what you're. 236 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: Willing to pay? Well, I don't need to hire me, 237 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to look it over. 238 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: But you understand they're looking it over because they spent 239 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: all this money to go to law school. Lawyering is 240 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 3: the one thing people think they ought to get for free, 241 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: Like they want to walk right up to the edge 242 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 3: of when they'll ever have to spend a dollar and 243 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: then pull back so they get enough legal advice but 244 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: never have to pay for it. Nobody says I'm gonna 245 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: go to the dentist. He can clean about half my teeth, 246 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: but don't give me the fluoride rans or any of that. 247 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: Just half it, and when it's not free anymore, let 248 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 3: me know and I'll get up and run out. It's 249 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: the weirdest thing anyway. I like what you're doing here, Hannah. 250 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: What are some the ten cool careers teens can land 251 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 3: without a degree. Let's talk about what kind of careers 252 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: we're talking about. It's not all digging ditches. 253 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: No, it's definitely not, Michael, And that's actually one of 254 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 2: the things that while I do appreciate a lot of 255 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: a lot of the people who do talk about this, 256 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: people who have done a lot of work raising awareness 257 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: about the trades. People like micro and that comes to 258 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: mind where he frequently talks about this. But the thing 259 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: for me that stands out is a lot of kids 260 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: already know about the trades. They can see the trades, 261 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: they already know about jobs, they can see. One of 262 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: the things that we've found when we work with young 263 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: adults a degree free is that they're very limited. They 264 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: only really can name about six to eight jobs, sometimes 265 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 2: twelve on the high end, but they're all jobs you 266 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: can see. There's a reason they all want to be cops, firefighters, teachers, doctors, nurses. 267 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: And then every girl you meet right now, every teenage 268 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: girl wants to be a psychologist. And I think it's 269 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: because a lot of the teachers just wish they had 270 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: become psychologists. 271 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: Well, and because these they're all going to therapy. 272 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, So it's it's something they can see. 273 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: And so one of the things that's such a rub 274 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: for me is that people a lot of these kids 275 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: know about the trades. The problem is that now everybody 276 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: wants to go into the trades, and there's nothing wrong 277 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 2: with that, and then so Ryan, my husband was a firefighter. 278 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: Actually he has an economics degree that he didn't use, 279 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 2: and then he became a firefighter later in life. My 280 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: own youngest sister is actually a structural welder at a 281 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: steel company. She currently works on rocket ships. She makes 282 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: more than a master's degree holder. It's very she's the 283 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: only it is hot, and she's also the only girl 284 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: at the whole steel company. 285 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: Oh no, I mean in terms of you know, it's 286 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: really you can sweat a lot at that job. 287 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 4: Oh no, she does. She gets burned all the time too, 288 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 4: but she. 289 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: I think that's cool, and I do think it's hard. 290 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: So let's talk about some more of these shows hard work, 291 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: and let's talk about some more of these coopers. 292 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: One that I really think people need to know about 293 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: that doesn't fall into I'm going to give you a bunch. 294 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: All of them are going to out earn the average 295 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: master's degree holder. None of them require college degrees. You 296 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: do not, your child does not to buy a college 297 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: degree to do these things. And none of them are 298 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: actually trade. So the first one is a pilot. Right now, 299 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: there's not a single US airline that still requires a 300 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: college degree. 301 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 4: To become a pilot. 302 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: Delta is the last one to remove it in twenty 303 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: twenty two, so it's old news. 304 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: Which is probably surprisingly is awesome. 305 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people don't know that because 306 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: people tend to be pretty surprised when I say it. 307 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 4: Also, there are flight schools. 308 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: Your average flight school right now with a guaranteed pipeline 309 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: into one of these airlines is going to cost you 310 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: in the average bachelor's degree, which is going to run 311 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: you about one hundred and four to one hundred fifty 312 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: six k. And so if you want your child to 313 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: have a high earning skill that's tied to a legal license, 314 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: then pilot a pilot's license is definitely a good one. 315 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: The next in Houston specifically, too, is going to be 316 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: cloud computing Specialists, which is a type of it's type 317 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: of data tech certification, and Houston is getting an inflow 318 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: of data centers. 319 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 4: There's a ton of work in those. 320 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: It's a little bit of software, a little bit of hardware, 321 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: a little bit of electrical work, but it's not a 322 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: trade necessarily. It also crosses into cybersecurity, high paying, high demand. 323 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: A lot of people will train on the job for 324 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: that surgical technologists also high demand. 325 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 4: That's very medical. 326 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: You assist in operating rooms, and it's a cert program. 327 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: Q Shortage of fire alarm installation texts so nice at 328 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: certifications where they go in and train them how to actually, 329 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: you know, do low voltage low voltage installation, and that 330 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: leads directly into business ownership for a lot of kids too. 331 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: Can I interrupt you, Hannah. 332 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: I have a friend who has a company called Platinum 333 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: Environmental and they've got you said nisis or nass. 334 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: However you want to pronounce it. 335 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: He got certified for environmental remediation and environmental consulting. They're 336 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: working on the border wall. He's doing city, county, state work, federal. 337 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: It's amazing. Hold on a single degree, free dot com, 338 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: stay tuned. 339 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: Lifeless black eyes to get dollars. Brandon Wrights. 340 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: I know I've recited my professional story several times to you. 341 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: It's practically an annual campfire tale by now. But this 342 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: Hannah is talking right to my wheelhouse. I consider my 343 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: path as serendipitous as it is circuitous. My time in 344 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: college was nothing short of rudderless. But God bless her 345 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: for taking on a mission like this. She's going to 346 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: help so many people. Tip of the hat to both 347 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: of you. That was subject line. A note on Hannah's call. 348 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: The website is degree free dot com. Not only is 349 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 3: she present options and guidance and instruction and mentoring to 350 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: finding a career without a degree, she is creating a 351 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: mindset for people who are choosing not to go to 352 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: college to not only not be ashamed of it, but 353 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 3: to be proud that you didn't get fleeceed, you didn't 354 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: spend all that money. For some people, college is the 355 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: right thing to do. For many people, it's not. But 356 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 3: we try to push everybody to go, and that is 357 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: a huge That's how you end up with a trillion 358 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 3: dollars in student loan debt that nobody wants to pay 359 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: back and they don't have jobs. That's a problem. Hannah 360 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 3: Maruyama is our guest degree free dot Com. I want 361 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: to go back to those careers you talked about, but 362 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 3: I want to talk about what the one on one 363 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: sessions look like. 364 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 2: Sure, so the do you want me to do the 365 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: careers first and finish. 366 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 4: Up that list? 367 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: How many more did you have? 368 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: I got five more? 369 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 3: Okay, why don't you do one? And then like a 370 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: minute on the one on one and then one career. 371 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm just sitting, but finish the careers. 372 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: Go ahead, gotcha my next one. I have a young 373 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: lady pursuing this right now. Actually she's in Louisiana. Is 374 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: court reporting and stenography, which is a really really good, 375 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: great job, a lot of flexibility. She wants to be 376 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: a mom long term, so that's something that really fit 377 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: into what she wants in the futures for as flexible work. 378 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: Actuary is one that people are often surprised does not 379 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: require a college degree. It's a series of very difficult tests, 380 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: but it is in fact, there is no degree that 381 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: is legally required for that job. Just persistence and heavy math, 382 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: heavy math, heavy stats. Another one that people are overlooking, 383 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 2: but there's a lot of retirement in is construction and 384 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 2: oil field scheduling, and that's something that's a little bit 385 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: like project management, but you can get assistant in junior roles. 386 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: There a ton of people retiring, a great opportunity, great 387 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: industry often that pays over one hundred thousand dollars as well. 388 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 4: So great six figure job. 389 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: Audio engineering, which is big as you know, broadcasting, film, 390 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: podcast production, and then digital marketing, which is one that 391 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: can often often be got through very inexpensive, very very 392 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: accessible certifications online, and then it's just a matter of 393 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: you know, applying to enough jobs. 394 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: Well, and then we take for granted. And I think 395 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: people get burned on this when I talk about sales jobs, 396 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 3: which I know salesmen that make a lot of money, 397 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: a lot hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars that 398 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: may or may not have college degrees and certainly weren't 399 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: required to have one. Is everybody that wants to get 400 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: into sales sees a sign while the drive down the 401 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 3: roads it says, you. 402 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: Know, you can make up to X amount of money. 403 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: They never go into and. 404 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: It ends up being telemarketing, and nobody wants to do that. 405 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: They've all seen Glengarry Glenn Ross and they don't want 406 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: to end up Jack Lemon's character. But there are lots 407 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 3: of small companies and mid sized companies that are looking 408 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 3: for people that are presentable and that can present, that 409 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 3: can communicate, that can show up to work every day. 410 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: As you know, Hannah has the battle, and being successful 411 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: is showing up, not being drunk, not being under the influence, 412 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 3: not having a bad attitude, looking people in the eyes, 413 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 3: delivering on what you're told to do and managing to 414 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: show up to work. That is so hard for people 415 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: to do, especially early in their careers. And if you 416 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: can do that consistently, especially small owner operated, you can 417 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: end up rising through the ranks. 418 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: But who am I telling you? Tell me about the 419 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: one on one sessions. 420 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: Sure, so, my, I'm very proud of the process that 421 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: we've created, mostly because we've done it through just trial 422 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 2: and error, put hundreds of kids through this process at 423 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: this point, and basically, the way we teach young adults 424 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: to pick careers now is kind of insane. We've completely 425 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: disregarded Mauso's higher group needs. We don't think about what 426 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: they actually need to make, where they want to live, 427 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: how much you know, what kind of schedule they want 428 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: to have, And so instead we do the opposite because 429 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: right now in high schools, high schools are just college blends. 430 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: All they do is cell degrees, all they do is 431 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: sell paper, and all they do is push. They push 432 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 2: one hundred percent of these kids into college. If they 433 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: don't want to do that, they ignore them, they let 434 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: them fall through the cracks. And then if the only 435 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: other tool they have is the military, now they're kind 436 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: of using trade schools a little bit, but instead we go, oh, 437 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 2: like follow your heart, Oh your test scores are this, 438 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 2: so you can be an engineer, or you know, here's 439 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: some random personality tests. Do you like to work with 440 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: your hands, so go be an electrician. That's a terrible, 441 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: crazy way to have seventeen and eighteen year olds choose 442 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: what they're going to do first after they graduate, and 443 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: so instead we've done the opposite. So it's a complete 444 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: one to eighty, which is what do you want your 445 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 2: life to look like? Where do you want to live? 446 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: Do you want to stay in your hometown? Do you 447 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: want to move somewhere you know? If and this is 448 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: a huge one, but schedule you know long term? 449 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 4: Do you want to have a family? Do you want 450 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 4: to be home with your kids? 451 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: And this is for boys and girls, but one thing 452 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: that's completely under addressed to women for sure, is that 453 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 2: a priority for you. If so, we're looking at a 454 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 2: different set of skills, different set of work that's going 455 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: to help you to accomplish that in your life, because 456 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: that's what's going to make them actually fulfilled by their job, 457 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 2: because their job's not their life. And then after that 458 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: we talk about, you know, how much money do you 459 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 2: want to make to do the things that you want 460 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: the right A good example is is Chad You're you're 461 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: you know, you're you're in your you're in house Hawaiian. 462 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: Uh he you know, he trains and it cost money 463 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: to train. And so I worked with the young man 464 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 2: who really wanted to spend a lot of time training 465 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: in jiu jitsu. 466 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 4: But that's expensive. 467 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: You know, as he moves out of his parents' house, 468 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 2: he's responsible for his own bills. He's got to make 469 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: enough money that he can pay to train, you know, 470 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: and that's something that he cares about, and so we 471 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: were looking at jobs that will fulfill that so he 472 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: can pay you know, pay for his rent, pay for 473 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: his food, love of protein. 474 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 4: And then you know, go train. 475 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: And then we also think about the type of schedule 476 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: that they want to have. You know, do they want 477 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 2: to work you know, they want to work swingshifts, they 478 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: want to work oil field work? Do they want to 479 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 2: work four days a week? You know, because that's going 480 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: to give you a different set of jobs. And what's 481 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: the priority to them. And when once we put those 482 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: things in order, then our team goes out and We 483 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 2: just research. We just go out to the whole internet. 484 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: There's three thousand and six thousand different jobs out there. 485 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: We add hundreds more every single month, and we go 486 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: through and we find where they live or where they 487 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: want to live, what jobs are going to fit those things, 488 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: and then what skills employers actually need them to learn, 489 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: and then we give them options to. 490 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 4: Learn those things. 491 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: All of them are faster and cheaper than a college degree, 492 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: because a college degree really just slows you down. Nowadays, 493 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to cost way too much for what they're 494 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: going to teach you, and they're actually not going to 495 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 2: teach you anything employable. So you're going to get out 496 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: and have to do the exact same process that we 497 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: do a degree free. 498 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 4: You know, eighteen year olds. 499 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 3: What you're talking about there, and it's just very important 500 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: that people here is that you have agency over your life. 501 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 3: I know so many people, and I've known since I 502 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: graduated high school that they get out of school and 503 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: they're like being blown about like a leaf because they 504 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: don't know nobody told them. And where did you go 505 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: to work? Well, so and so was hiring. What did 506 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: you do well? They put me over here doing this? 507 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: What were your hours. Well, they had me working overnights. 508 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: When you create, we live in a glorious time for this. 509 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 3: When you create that skill set, that ideal life for you, 510 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: and you consider your skill set and passions and all 511 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: those sorts of things and you go looking for it, 512 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 3: it's amazing. And it might be a dog rumor, it 513 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 3: might be a karate instructor, it might be an oil 514 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 3: field scheduling, or actuary or court reporter or any number 515 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 3: of other things. That's what I love is the idea 516 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 3: of planning the life you want and then going to 517 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: find it rather than who's hiring. Well, that's not a 518 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: long term that's not a long term success goal. I 519 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: love your approach here and I absolutely love it. I 520 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 3: think this is fantastic. It's degree free dot com, Degree 521 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 3: free dot com. Coming up, I'm going to ask Hannah Maruyama. 522 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 3: I'm going to ask her the however many minutes we 523 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 3: have available the most, the things that most people don't 524 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: know that would make the biggest difference, So the low 525 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 3: hanging fruit, the things that come up the most that 526 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 3: she helps people with, and how you can get started 527 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: today as a parent or as a young person. I'm 528 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: a big person, big one forgetting your kids involved in 529 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 3: this process. 530 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: Mommy, don't do it all for them. 531 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 4: I think the term anal intercourse on your. 532 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: Program, Michael Arris, if it's relevant to this story for 533 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: journalistic purposes, those are rites. After two years of college, 534 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: I found out what I would be making after graduation, 535 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 3: I quit. I went to electrical apprentice. After fifty years, 536 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 3: I retired with a great retirement and full of cash. 537 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: So many of these stories coming on people that went 538 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 3: into not just electrical employing, but all sorts of other things. Okay, 539 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 3: Hannah Maruyama, the redhead married to the Honolulu native, I 540 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 3: want to know what are the issues that come up 541 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 3: the most when people start their one on one training. 542 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 3: By the way, you can you can have one on 543 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 3: one training with her, or you can buy the book, 544 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: or there are workshops and workbooks and all sorts of stuff. 545 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 3: It's all at degree dot com. And I'm not saying 546 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 3: don't go to college, folks. I'm saying, just explore your options, 547 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: plan your life. Don't be blown about by the wins. Okay, 548 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: what are the low hanging fruit, Hannah. 549 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 4: So low hanging fruit. 550 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: Well, there's a few things that parents need to know. 551 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 2: I think and that's parents are the biggest drivers of 552 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: whether or not they're kids buy college degrees. But a 553 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 2: lot of parents just don't have the right information. They 554 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 2: think their kids can only get good jobs if they 555 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: go to college. But really that's just not the reality 556 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: of it anymore. The market right now shows that a 557 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 2: zippercruiter's quarterly reports came out fourteen point five percent of 558 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: job listings mentioned college degrees at all, and then on 559 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: indeed it's eighteen percent, So it's the less than one 560 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 2: in five that even say a. 561 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: College degree is preferred. 562 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: We actually went through the Bureau of Labor Statistics and 563 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: we counted and found that only seven point seven percent 564 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: of jobs in our entire country actually legally require the purchase. 565 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 4: Of a college degree to get. 566 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: Interestingly, Josh Shapiro, Governor of Pennsylvania, he removed degree requirements 567 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: from all state jobs that weren't necessary. There's i think 568 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: twenty four states that have done this so far in 569 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 2: the last two years. But when he did that, it 570 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 2: mirrored our data and it freed up ninety two percent 571 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: of the state jobs in Pennsylvania, so almost a direct 572 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: you know, directly related to our data, which is ninety 573 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: two point three percent of jobs don't require degrees. So 574 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: it's just staggering. All our parents should think, oh, this 575 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: is the only way for my child to be successful. 576 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 2: It's the only way for them to get a spouse. 577 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've heard that. Actually, Michael, how how many 578 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: people do you think meet their spouse on a college 579 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: campus these days? 580 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 4: Have a good I have a good one for you. 581 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: For people who go to If you don't go to college, 582 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: you can't meet your spouse there. But let's say for 583 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 3: people who go to college, I'll bet they can't fifty 584 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 3: eight percent meet the person while they're at college. 585 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: Point seven four percent of people meet their spouse on 586 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 2: a college campus. 587 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: Right not wow, okay, so even just going to just god, wow, 588 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 3: that is very interesting, very you know, there's so much. 589 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: I have so many friends that are big ut families, 590 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: or big Texas A and M families, or big Alabama 591 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 3: family I've talked to one of my dogs yesterday and 592 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: his daughter's graduating from Auburn, so I sent him war 593 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: Eagle and they're so proud. And families invest in the image, 594 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: you know. I know people that the most important thing 595 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: they want you to know about them is they went 596 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 3: to ut or they went to A and M, and 597 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 3: they they're seventy five, right, and it's their identity the 598 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 3: way somebody's a Vietnam bet, that's their identity. I'm an 599 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: aggie and you go, okay, that's great. But I think 600 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: that people see that and they take from it the 601 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: wrong thing. 602 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 4: I would agree with. 603 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: That, and I completely see why people do. It's because 604 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: it's such an emotional purchase for them. Right, They're spending 605 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: so much money so early in their life, where their 606 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: families are and nowadays, I mean, the goal, and this 607 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: is the thing we all should be asking, is why 608 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: is there so much pressure on high schoolers to do this? 609 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: This is the only kind of debt that is bankruptcy exempt, 610 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: and it is bankruptcy exempt specifically for seventeen and eighteen 611 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: year old kids whose parents are. 612 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 4: Co signing on these loans. 613 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 2: Why in the world is there so much pressure on 614 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: these kids to do this so young. College is not 615 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: going anywhere. Colleges are businesses, they're hedge funds. They're always 616 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: going to take your money. They're always going to take 617 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: your kids money. Because it's bankruptcy exempt debt. It's six 618 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: figures on average but why don't you wait until your 619 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: child's twenty five, because you might be able to cover 620 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: the whole cost of their degree if they actually need 621 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: it at that point, because no longer will your income 622 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: be determining how much your child's getting charged, because they're 623 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: not trying to. 624 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 4: Reach through your child to get you. 625 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: The largest group right now that's taken out student loans 626 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: is actually grandparents because they've tapped the parents out. The 627 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: parents have their own student loans, and now they're going 628 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: to the grandparents to get them to take out loans. 629 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 2: And now you're threatening holl homes, you know, pensions, all 630 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: kinds of different things because of the amount. 631 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 4: Of death panna and there's no questioning value. 632 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: How's your kid going to be a sigma cat if 633 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 3: they're not in college? 634 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: You know what? 635 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: You know what, Michael, I'll take you my my middle sister, 636 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: she was actually in the military, because there's no my 637 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: family didn't have the money to pay for four kids 638 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: to go to college. You know, I was paying my 639 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: own way when I did go before I broke out. 640 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: But my youngest, my middle sister, not the welder, but 641 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: the other one, was actually often in the military. 642 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 4: She still has. 643 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: Student loans she's paying off even though she had rot 644 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: you know, she went ROTC but just you know, taking 645 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: on loans to live the life, to live the college 646 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: life that you haven't earned yet. And so many kids 647 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: get caught up in that and parents are the ones 648 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: that are on the hook for it. But the parents 649 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: are the ones that told them they had to go 650 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: in the first place, and so they can avoid that. 651 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: It's not you don't go, just don't go until you 652 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: actually need to or until you're sure what you're doing, 653 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: because so many of these kids have no I do 654 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: with out there. 655 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 4: And that's the biggest thing we found. But in the meantime, 656 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 4: I'm a huge fan of sales. 657 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: I think that all kids should go into into sales. 658 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: I think that if you're looking for how can you 659 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,239 Speaker 2: equip your child now for the future of work. And 660 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: because I just came from AI, one thing I tell 661 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: parents is there's three big things you can do. One 662 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: thing is Toastmasters or local small business Chamber of Commerce. 663 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: Amazing everybody has access to those things. Find those groups. 664 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how small the town that you live in. 665 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: I know there's one in Montgomery and it's a small town. 666 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 4: But there's toastmasters. 667 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: Go take your kids and teach them how to public 668 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: speak if you want them to be able to conquer 669 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: the world, because these kids cannot a lot of them. 670 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: They can't look people in the eye, you know, you know, 671 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: just they can't look people in the eye. 672 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 4: They can't speak. And all your child has to be 673 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 4: able to do is do that and let them use AI. 674 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: Tools heavily, because colleges are punishing them for doing that 675 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: right now. And it's like watching somebody pay somebody one 676 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars to kick them ines before they. 677 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 4: Have to go run a marathon. 678 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said, I'm glad you said. I didn't 679 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: think you were going to say, nees. And I love 680 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: what you've done. I love what you've done. 681 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 4: Thank you. 682 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 3: And in the midst of it, not lost on me 683 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: is you have done exactly what you're teaching other people 684 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 3: to do. You have You and Ryan have created a business, 685 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 3: right and you've you've used technology, you're you're obviously the 686 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 3: face of the company. You're a great communicator, you're you're 687 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 3: you're good at this, you're good online. And so in 688 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 3: the midst of all this, here is yet another business 689 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 3: that is being created, and some people are uncomfortable with that. 690 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 3: You know, I like to talk about making money and 691 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 3: how we make money and how much money you want 692 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: to make and how you want to live and what 693 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 3: you want to do with that money and all the 694 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: fun you can have and things. But I love, I 695 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 3: love that you have set this off, that y'all have 696 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: created this life, that you you find a spot on 697 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 3: the map based on all the factors you want. You know, uh, 698 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 3: low cost of living close to in the airport, you know, 699 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 3: all the things that probably went for you, a low 700 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 3: crime rate. It's how you want to live. And it's 701 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 3: even beyond your career. It's a question of what kind 702 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: of life do you want to live? What kind of 703 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: person do you want to marry? Whoever shows up next 704 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 3: to you at the bar and you sleep with and 705 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 3: you wake up the next morning why not? Or somebody 706 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: that shares your values that you would want to go 707 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 3: on a road trip with what you want to do 708 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: for a career, where you want to live. 709 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: I love it, Hannah. We should have you back. 710 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 3: You're wonderful. Hell Ryan, thanks for sharing you with us 711 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 3: for has. 712 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: It been an hour? Wow? Whole hours? Okay? That was fun. 713 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: Did we lose her. She's already handling, she's already got 714 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: other people going on. 715 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 4: ELUS. 716 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: Thank you and good night.