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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to the Sean Hennity Show. It's the

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Speaker 1: seculars in for Sean. This is Jay, Jordan and Logan,

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Speaker 1: all three of us here. We're going to be joined

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Speaker 1: by our friend Rick Rnell, who is a colleague of

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Speaker 1: ours at the American Center for Law and Justice. He's

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Speaker 1: a senior adviser to us on international issues, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about the situation in Israel.

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Speaker 2: So you know, we represent the ACLJ.

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Speaker 1: We have an office, an American Center for Law and

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Speaker 1: Justice office in Jerusalem.

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Speaker 3: That's important. The European Center for Law Justice is the

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Speaker 3: European Center for Law Justice based in Strosburg, France. It's

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Speaker 3: staffed by Europeans, but the American Center for Law Justice

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Speaker 3: is to sid that signal both to Israel and the

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Speaker 3: world that America stands with Israel. And the aclj's flagship

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Speaker 3: office in Jerusalem is an office that says, yes, Americans,

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Speaker 3: whether they are dual citizens, whether they are Jewish Americans

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Speaker 3: or Christian Americans, they stand with the Jewish State of Israel.

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Speaker 3: And it's unique in the way we've set up our

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Speaker 3: offices that we have not sent Americans over to rud.

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Speaker 3: This in the sense of peace, these people having the

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Speaker 3: connection to Israel and the connection to the United States

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Speaker 3: of America, that combined connection which right now is under

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Speaker 3: attack by the Biden administration.

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Speaker 2: You're not right now, we've seen.

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Speaker 3: The Biden administration try and tell the Israelis how to

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Speaker 3: conduct the war. Could you imagine in a country trying

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Speaker 3: to tell us how to conduct the war against Isis?

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Speaker 3: Could you imagine a country trying to conduct telling us

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Speaker 3: how to conduct the war against the Taliban? Or how

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Speaker 3: about Iraq? It's not something even or World War two?

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Speaker 3: Would they say, you know, get out as quickly as

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Speaker 3: you can. There's too many civilians in Germany, so you know,

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Speaker 3: get it out and you just get it done. No, Instead,

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Speaker 3: it's eradicate the Nazis. Make sure they're gone forever. And

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Speaker 3: you know what if some people got hurt along the way,

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Speaker 3: that's okay, because the Nazis are so bad. We got

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Speaker 3: to get rid of them first. That's from us in

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Speaker 3: this day and age. Yes, you have to get rid

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Speaker 3: of them in some civilians, including Israelis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we found that out today. Hostages we found out today.

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Speaker 1: Represent we represent families of hostages and the family there's

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Speaker 1: a family coalition and one of our clients today was shot.

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Speaker 1: It was it's all of thought was right now he escaped,

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Speaker 1: but the Israeli it was evident it was Israeli fired.

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Speaker 2: They thought he was a terrorist. Wh what happens?

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Speaker 1: Listen, We defended Operation cast Led at the International Criminal

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Speaker 1: Court in the Hague, and it was a lot of

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Speaker 1: that kind of urban warfare. It's very difficult, and it's

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Speaker 1: very and it's really it's a really sad moment for

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Speaker 1: us and for the family obviously, but war is horrible,

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Speaker 1: and this shows you how horrible war is. But the

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Speaker 1: acl j's involved in the legal side on all of this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's right, and you have to look

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Speaker 2: Look.

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Speaker 4: I think it's very difficult. It's a little bit different

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Speaker 4: from even a World War Two in the sense of

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Speaker 4: we are seeing all of this. Obviously none of us

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Speaker 4: were alive then, but we were also seeing everything in

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Speaker 4: real time. Yea're not seeing it different. You know, you

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Speaker 4: think about you see a newsreel in the nineteen forties,

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Speaker 4: you know, before a movie you went to a little

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Speaker 4: bit harder to separate than when you see Chris A.

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Speaker 4: Ward in Gaza, you know, and seeing what's happening there.

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Speaker 4: It does tug on your humanitarian human heart strings and go, well,

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Speaker 4: what are we doing here? But we have to look

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Speaker 4: at a bigger picture. You do have to look at

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Speaker 4: what's happening in Israel and understand also what you're seeing.

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Speaker 4: A lot of it is being manipulated by by Hamas

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Speaker 4: and all of that. But sure, is there atrocities happening.

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Speaker 4: Is it really heartbreaking to watch? Absolutely? But I think

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Speaker 4: has to figure out a way to combat that publicly.

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Speaker 4: That publicly, because when you have a twenty four hour

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Speaker 4: catastrophic event. It's even different than it was during the

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Speaker 1: Yes, it looks very different, but you also realize this

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Speaker 1: an hour ago, we weren't going to discuss that one

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Speaker 1: of our clients was one of the hostages that were

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Speaker 1: killed today because it wasn't on the news, and then

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Speaker 1: an hour later it is all over those Let's go

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Speaker 1: right to Rick Renell, who is our senior advisor but

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Speaker 1: also served as the Director of National Intelligence for President Trump,

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Speaker 1: and I'm the ambassador to Germany. Rick, we talked about

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Speaker 1: this issue on our broadcast SECULO, which is by the way,

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Speaker 2: But Rick Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Mentioned this whole idea of the United States dictating to

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Speaker 1: the Israelis on the next move and while we're you know,

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Speaker 1: we're suffering today with the loss of a client, and

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Speaker 1: war is a horrible thing. But this idea that the

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Speaker 1: United States is telling the Israelis what to do is

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Speaker 1: to me very troubling.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's very troubling because we still have hostages, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean, when the hostages are still being held, we

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Speaker 5: need to be able to say to the government of Israel,

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Speaker 5: go fight this evil, and bring the hostages home. I

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Speaker 5: find it to be very troubling that while we have

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Speaker 5: is saying to Israel, this is what you should and

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Speaker 5: should not do in dealing with Hamas. Let Israel deal

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Speaker 5: with them. They're the ones who suffered these consequences. The

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Speaker 5: last thing that we would want is for someone to

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Speaker 5: be telling us what to do. After nine to eleven, Rick.

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Speaker 1: When you you know you and I have done we

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Speaker 1: all have done hostage negotiations and it's a tough situation.

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Speaker 1: But you just mentioned there are ten American hostages, well

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Speaker 1: eight to ten. We don't know the exact number still held,

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Speaker 1: and seems like no progress being made.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no progress is being made. Remember that the

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Speaker 5: President of the United States, Joe Biden, went over to

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Speaker 5: We have not gotten our hostages return. Now Jake Sullivan

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Speaker 5: is there. I don't understand why we're going lower rank.

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Speaker 5: Usually you would go higher rank. But we need to

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Speaker 5: be able to have diplomats who are actually successful, who

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Speaker 5: know how to do something more than culinary diplomacy. We

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Speaker 5: can't have weak diplomats. We need to have people who

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Speaker 5: know how to bring home hostages, who know how to

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Speaker 5: use the leverage of the US government. I don't understand

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Speaker 5: why Anthony Blincoln, who has his own plane, is not

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is I think what is upsetting to

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Speaker 5: It's very perplexing we have American hostage is being held

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Speaker 5: and the National Security Advisor is telling Israel to ease up.

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Speaker 5: Think about that. That's not a using the tools of

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Speaker 5: the US government to bring the home people. But this

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden's White House, bragging that they got ninety percent

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Speaker 5: big achievement, when all I heard is you left ten

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Speaker 2: Well, that's that's the way they spin it now. Right now,

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Speaker 2: there are reports.

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Speaker 1: That the shipping in the Red Sea area, which is

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Speaker 1: too dangerous. The same thing in the sus Canal, same problems.

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Speaker 1: We're vulnerable on the energy side of this, Rick. We

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Speaker 1: weren't when you all were in office, but we are now.

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Speaker 5: It's all of energy, it's all of commerce issues. The

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Speaker 5: entire region is literally being leveraged by the Iranians. Let's

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Speaker 5: be very clear. The Biden administration decided to engage with

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Speaker 5: that that's not true with the Iranians. By the way,

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Speaker 5: I believe in engagement. President Trump engaged on North Korea

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Speaker 5: that engagement. Sometimes engagement works. We've tried it with Iran.

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Speaker 5: It does not work. What works with Iran with this

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Speaker 5: with them, asking them for a nuclear agreement, paying them,

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Speaker 5: easing the sanctions, and so they now have lots more

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Speaker 1: You know, Iran is the largest exporter of terrorism in

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Speaker 1: the world. We did a documentary Logan that's been a

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Speaker 2: Now, I want you to look at the timeframe here, folks.

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Speaker 1: We free up all this money, the United States frees

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Speaker 1: what happens that money, which is functable, ends up getting

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Speaker 1: into the hands of who they support. Hamas was in

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Speaker 1: Iran with the Iatolas before the attacks on Israel. Where

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Speaker 1: did they get the money to do those attacks? Yes, Iran,

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Speaker 1: And that's the problem here. Iran is the head of

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Speaker 2: Rick. I think what.

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Speaker 3: People are trying to figure out right now is where

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Speaker 2: And that's Jake Sullivan again. I go back to that

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Speaker 3: Tasked to go deliver that message to the Israeli war

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Speaker 3: stop until Hamas is destroyed, just like our wars against Isis,

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Speaker 5: Look, I think the only headline that we need to

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Speaker 5: of the hostages from Hamas and demanding that Qatar and others, uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, help us. That's the pressure point. Not Israel.

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Speaker 2: We've got. You've also got the situation.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we've got a world crisis right now, this administration.

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Speaker 1: You've got You've got Russia in Ukraine, you got you know,

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Speaker 1: Hamas attacking Israel in the in the worst massacre of

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Speaker 2: Who knows what China is going to do next. You know,

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Speaker 3: off of just an idea. This was not like some

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Speaker 3: widespread issue or some real problem with inside the actually

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Speaker 3: the radical traditionalist Catholic. The term they came up with

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Speaker 3: was a term one individual called himself. They could not

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Speaker 3: even define the term because what nut was using this term?

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Speaker 1: Yet they had four offices congressmen involved in this. We

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Speaker 1: followed the Freedom of Information AC lawsuit the a CLJ

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Speaker 1: against the HgI. Yeah, and they had people in the

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Speaker 1: churches and we found out there's twelve hundred patients of

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Speaker 1: documents responsive to this quote.

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Speaker 2: Non issue within the FBI.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, And by the way, Christopher I was asking him

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Speaker 7: questions about this very thing, he may have seen it.

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Speaker 7: He perjured himself. I asked him if he had lists

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Speaker 7: of churches? He said, what do you mean? Listen and

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Speaker 7: he started to actually stammer a little bit because he

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Speaker 7: was getting nervous because we were onto something. And you know,

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Speaker 7: we only know about the Catholic churches. God knows, there

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Speaker 7: may have been Evangelical churches, conservative synecagues. We don't even

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Speaker 7: know what else. But this we do know. We have

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Speaker 7: the proof, we have the emails. Here's where he perjured himself.

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Speaker 7: I asked him the day he testified in front of

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Speaker 7: us in traditionary you know, have you done? This is

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Speaker 7: just a Virginia field office, just one mistake there, Yes,

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Speaker 7: absolutely sorry, it happened, but it was only there and

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Speaker 7: we found out because if you folks and others, and

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Speaker 7: because we dug in, it was across the country. There

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Speaker 7: were multiple offices. They considered traditional Roman Catholics enemies. You

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Speaker 7: know why because they tend to be a little more conservative,

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Speaker 7: because they tend to be faithful, and that doesn't fit

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Speaker 7: the picture they want for the future.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to play I want to play for

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Speaker 1: the audience a little sparring with you in America, Carl

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Speaker 1: and take a listen.

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Speaker 5: Attorney General through the chair, I ask you, do you

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Speaker 5: agree that traditional Catholics are violent extremists?

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Speaker 8: If you have no idea, what your what the traditional

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Speaker 8: means here, Yeah, let me just go to church. May

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Speaker 8: I answer your question? Yes, the idea that someone with

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Speaker 8: my family background with discriminate against any religion is so outrageous,

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Speaker 8: so absurd.

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Speaker 1: Mister Attorney General, it was your FBI that did this.

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Speaker 5: It was your FBI that was sending and we have

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Speaker 5: the memos, we have the emails.

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Speaker 7: We're sending undercover agents into Catholic churches.

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Speaker 1: Congressman, you hit him hard and he had of course

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Speaker 1: he got this emotional response.

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Speaker 2: But the truth is this was not some limited program.

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Speaker 1: This was a coast to coast, multiple offices, twelve hundred

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Speaker 1: pages of documents which we're going to get next week.

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Speaker 2: And you caught.

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Speaker 7: Them absolutely and they didn't like it. Thank god we're there,

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Speaker 7: and just for your listeners, and I don't want to

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Speaker 7: be portisant all the time, but thank god there was

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Speaker 7: a Republican majority in the House of Representatives. And we

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Speaker 7: have my good friend that I work with all the time,

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Speaker 7: Jid Jordan, as the chairman of the committee. With guess what,

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Speaker 7: you all would never know, nobody would know, it would

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Speaker 7: have been hidden. This matters.

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Speaker 5: It was wrong.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's so unbelievable. It sounds like it's made up,

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Speaker 7: but it's not. You know what else is not made

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Speaker 7: up about the FBI? How about the misuse of PIZA

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Speaker 7: For people who are listening don't know what it is.

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Speaker 7: It is a way for the FBI to investigate American

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Speaker 7: citizens if they believe that they are involved with foreign terror.

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Speaker 7: That's the simple and short definition. But guess what they

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Speaker 7: were using it for? To track people they didn't like

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Speaker 7: but who were conservative, keep boyfriends and girlfriends of other agents.

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Speaker 7: They misuse it hundreds of thousands of times. That's why

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Speaker 7: when we redo, when we reauthorize FISA, we need the

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Speaker 7: bill that we've produced in our committee because the committee

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Speaker 7: that we have has done a good job of making

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Speaker 7: sure that you can go after the bad guys, but

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Speaker 7: you don't go after the good guys, Americans just trying

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Speaker 7: to live their lives.

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Speaker 1: Congress, when we appreciate the work you're doing, we look

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Speaker 1: forward to continuing to work with you and your committees,

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Speaker 1: and we are committed at the ACLJ to standing with

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Speaker 1: you for justice here.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us on Handy today.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate you. Want to wish everybody a Ury Murray, happy, healthful,

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Speaker 7: and blessed Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Connors when we appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You know, the interesting thing, folks, is when this issue

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Speaker 1: broke with the targeting of the Catholics, we took action

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Speaker 1: at the American Center for Law and Justice and actually

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Speaker 1: filed a lawsuit against the FBI. In that response, this

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Speaker 1: was after they said it was just this limited thing

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't a big deal. The fact of the

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Speaker 1: matter was they had to respond that there were twelve

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Speaker 1: hundred pages of documents about this particular surveillance activity that

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Speaker 1: we're engaged in, and next week, because of our action

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Speaker 1: in federal court, they have to turn that over to us,

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Speaker 1: and we will continue to litigate that and get I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they'll redact it like they always do, and we'll

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Speaker 1: have to do it. But we're fighting back on this

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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you. Let me tell you this, folks,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen without your support. Your support of the

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Speaker 1: ACLJ makes all of the difference in the world. We

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Speaker 1: only got forty five seconds here. We can tell people

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Speaker 1: you coul supportus too. Right now at the ACLJ.

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Speaker 3: You can be part of our faith and Freedom Drive

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Speaker 2: A lot more of Hannity coming up. You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: And remember if you want to get our movie just

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Speaker 1: came out, Jingle Smells Jingle Smells Dot.

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Speaker 6: Movie the Newsmakers. You won't hear anywhere else. This is

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Speaker 6: the Sean Hannity Show.

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Speaker 3: Hey, this is Jordan Seculough. Welcome back to the Hannity Broadcast.

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Speaker 3: And coming up Logan, my brother Jay Sekulo Jorius, our dad.

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Speaker 2: But Logan, we got somebody special.

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Speaker 4: Jordan Brother that's right, joining us next star of our

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Speaker 4: new movie Jingle Smells, which Sean Hannity is also the

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Speaker 4: executive producer of.

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Speaker 2: Is John Schneider. That's right.

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Speaker 4: You know him from the Dukes of Hazzard's bo Duke.

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Speaker 4: Are you knowing from Smallville? Or many of the productions

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Speaker 4: he has been a part of over the last few

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Speaker 4: in our new movie Jingle Smells, which available right now

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Speaker 4: at Jingle Smells Dot. Movie. You can stream it there

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Speaker 4: whether through Rumble, through Voodoo or DVD's available through John Schneider.

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Speaker 4: We're able to do this without the red tape of Hollywood.

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Speaker 4: Very cool to do this. Also have some important messages

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Speaker 4: that are really baked deep into this story that will

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Speaker 4: resonate with this audience.

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Speaker 3: You said something, Logan that I want to make sure

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Speaker 3: this audience knows loud and clear that's been with us

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Speaker 3: for the last couple hours, or maybe they're joining us

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Speaker 3: right now they know in the hand any broadcast. Sean

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Speaker 3: is a co producer of this movie. So if you're

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Speaker 3: a fan of Sean, Sean's someone who got behind this movie.

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Speaker 3: Immediately and said I want people to see this. Where

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Speaker 3: do they go right now to buy it? Yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 3: Jingle Smells Dot Movie up.

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Speaker 4: Sean Hannona and I are about the executive producers of

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Speaker 4: this movie and he makes a number of appearances throughout.

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Speaker 2: So go to Jingle Smells Dot Movie. Again.

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Speaker 4: It's available on to stream on Rumble on Voodoo and

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Speaker 4: we have DVDs available on the website. Takes you straight

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Speaker 4: to John Schneider Studios. You can buy the DVDs there.

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Speaker 4: The easiest way just go to Jingle Smells Dot Movie.

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Speaker 4: You'll see the three options. Big Christmas family movie with

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Speaker 4: a lot of heart, a lot of laughs, and John

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Speaker 4: Schneider joining us live coming up in the next segment.

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Speaker 3: And it's a movie for the family, but it's not

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Speaker 3: again like a little children's children's movie.

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Speaker 2: It's fine to have on with them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you can watch it with your kids and

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Speaker 3: So, folks, we encourage you go to Jingle Smells Dot

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