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Speaker 3: Hour, we still have Trevor Lane, host of the Lakers

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Speaker 3: end of the hour, well, of course, have last call

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Speaker 3: per usual, so we'll get to that as well, Carrie Man.

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Speaker 3: We of course have NBA is kind of you know,

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Speaker 3: this is their time, if you will. The football obviously

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Speaker 3: weekend coming about and happening, we get a lot of

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Speaker 3: conversations coming for that where they're asked questions, they're asked,

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Speaker 3: to get some great interesting articles. Rob g We got

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Speaker 3: one from somebody who was the general manager of Lebron

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Speaker 3: thoughts about that run that they had together.

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Speaker 5: That's right, David Griffin, blast from the past. You might

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Speaker 5: he was a big deal in the NBA. He was

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Speaker 5: the GM for about eight seasons there in Cleveland, Smack

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Speaker 5: dab during the middle of that second Lebron stint. I

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Speaker 5: believe he got there right after Lebron left. So we

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Speaker 5: saw the build up with Kyrie and being bad and

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Speaker 5: all these situations to eventually Lebron shows up, Kevin Love

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Speaker 5: didn't end well for him and end up going to

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Speaker 5: I think he's out of a gig now. But he

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Speaker 5: did a podcast with a Cleveland Sports network before the

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Speaker 5: All Star break to discuss Cleveland sports, namely this current

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Speaker 5: cap team. They just got James harden keon Alliston as shreoter.

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Speaker 5: They're looking to make a move in the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 5: And during the course of the conversation, of course he's

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Speaker 5: most known for that Cas run with Lebron, A lot

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Speaker 5: of it was talking about what that run was like,

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Speaker 6: They acquired j R.

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Speaker 5: Smith, they got Iman Shumper, and during the course of

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Speaker 7: Take a listen assessment of the current state of the calves.

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Speaker 8: Well, one of the things that we really benefited from

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Speaker 8: all through those years we really knew the target is

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Speaker 7: Right the ear nails, the Lebron Invitational for all of

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Speaker 7: Kobe is doing what he's doing, and this Calves team

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Speaker 7: an Eastern Conference is significantly more competitive than what.

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Speaker 8: We had, So just making the finals will be significant.

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Speaker 3: I actually have a differing point of view, So I

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Speaker 4: Yep, I think it was the Leastern Conference.

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Speaker 4: To the Western Conference. Here's what I mean, Carrie.

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Speaker 3: There was about a twelve fourteen year period where we

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Speaker 3: if Lebron James went to the Western Conference during that run,

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Speaker 6: Guys, are you ever going to get the Dallas maverietaria.

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Speaker 3: Just let that he was a Dallas Maverick with Dirk

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Would have been remarkable was if Lebron would have went

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Speaker 3: have only gone anywhere between four to seven. But what

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Speaker 3: he might have been five and one, He might have

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Speaker 3: My point is he wouldn't have gone as many times

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Speaker 3: he would not have lost to an Eastern Conference team,

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Speaker 3: or if he did, he would have lost once.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: If he goes five times, he's four and one, and

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Speaker 3: Lebron was sitting here, Yeah I only won four, but

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Speaker 3: Or I'm five and oh now I'm not Jordan six

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Speaker 3: and oh. But maybe I'm five and one or I'm

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Speaker 3: six and one, because I don't think he would have

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Speaker 3: gone as many he would have. I've always said, as

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Speaker 3: on a team that would have been insane. You know,

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Speaker 3: there's about eight or nine teams during that iteration where

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Speaker 4: Okay, man, crazy.

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Speaker 9: No, you're not actually like that take. It's very interesting.

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Speaker 9: I mean, he could have went to Houston, but that

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, because what we saw real quick, Carrie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously you get to the Laker version of

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Speaker 3: He would have been loaded if he went to Western Compy.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, one hundred percent. The thing that I hate and

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Speaker 9: is we talked about it like these podcasts and these

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Speaker 9: there's no way David Griffin should be talking about that

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Speaker 9: really saying is he didn't do a great job either,

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Speaker 9: they go hand in hand. So you're trying to put

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Speaker 9: I don't think people understand that when they go this

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Speaker 9: the second best player of all time, behind behind Michael Jordan,

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Speaker 9: and that's where I stand. But the bashing of him

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Speaker 6: I know he's outlived his state. Because all those things

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Speaker 9: You play long enough, you stay around long enough, you're

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Speaker 9: gonna become the villain, right, That's just kind of what

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Speaker 9: it is. But when these people like your GM or

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Speaker 9: pendulum swings, it's all the negative stuff. But coming from

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Speaker 9: least in conference, Well you're at least in GM as well.

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Speaker 9: If that's the case, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 9: there's a there's there's layers to this thing that people

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Speaker 9: when they get on these podcasts they forget the minting

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Speaker 9: like he was a part.

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Speaker 3: Of that well, and you could argue, if this was

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Speaker 3: the Leastern Conference, why couldn't we accomplish more?

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Speaker 6: The cast right you had?

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Speaker 3: You would say, well, couldn't you guys have one more

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Speaker 3: before that? Before he came exactly came back. They didn't

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Speaker 3: pair him with in my opinion, a lot back then.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 5: It don't help that you coached through Ron Parker sang.

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Speaker 6: He's so just like if Lamar Jackson. You know, yes, If.

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Speaker 4: He's the best player in football.

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Speaker 4: But boy, if I'm critical, that's what I've learned. That's

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Speaker 4: You're a hater.

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Speaker 3: David Griffin essentially said Lebron and his team, those cast

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Speaker 9: So we got we got Andre in Massachusetts. You owned

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Speaker 6: How are you?

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Speaker 4: What's up, Dre? How you doing?

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Speaker 11: Thanks for taking a call. Listen. I'm of the opinion

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Speaker 11: when he really shouldn't have been there. Right, the Piston

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Speaker 11: you make it the ten finals, you have those those

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Speaker 11: Whereas Lebron, you know, he breaks through and O seven

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Speaker 9: All right, Dragon dres the way points and you talk

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Speaker 6: That tell you was that tall stacked. Think about their

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Speaker 4: All right, let's take another call carry who we got.

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Speaker 6: We got Robb G. We got my.

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Speaker 4: Bat, my bat.

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to screen him. G's Louise.

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Speaker 3: Rob G while you out there smacking on Robbie. Just

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Speaker 3: And I was like Carrie Roads, I said, have I

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Speaker 4: What do you saying when you talk to me on

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Speaker 4: the phone?

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Speaker 6: What on your radio voice and your phone voice? To

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Speaker 6: do different people? Yeah, it's totally different.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't know about total.

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Speaker 6: No, he just gets the worst one.

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Speaker 5: Carry if you got time during the update, yeah, call No,

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Speaker 5: I'm dumb cell phone and just wait for the voicemail.

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Speaker 4: What is it like?

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Speaker 6: It's it's the most core, Yeah it is. It is newsman,

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Speaker 6: Spectrum News one to the fullest. I'm helping him watch. Yes,

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Speaker 6: that vibe, Oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: Quite that. I don't even sound like that when I

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Speaker 4: do news.

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Speaker 6: You don't.

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Speaker 5: That's why your voicemail so jarring. But I will say

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Speaker 5: it was like he was auditioning for the next role.

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Speaker 5: When they call, they're gonna hear it.

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Speaker 4: I'm still trying to get there.

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Speaker 3: Y'all gonna be laughing when I tell you, Rob, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna the next two weeks off watch. I got the

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Speaker 3: small role in this movie. Coming up, having all these

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Speaker 3: I'll be having all these actors come on the show.

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Speaker 3: Carry you know, I'll be Hey, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: Just let me know all these directors come on the course.

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Speaker 4: Let your boy know.

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Speaker 3: You know, when Blair Underwood needs a little brother in

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Speaker 3: a movie, let your.

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Speaker 5: Boy, why don't you ask from next I mean, you

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Speaker 5: see him tomorrow and be like, hey, I saw what

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Speaker 5: you did from Mike. He was in the background of

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Speaker 5: one of your movies, just sitting there. I saw the

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Speaker 5: side of his face that could be your robe.

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Speaker 6: Take advantage.

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Speaker 3: And I've known Ephan for a long time. Not at

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Speaker 3: this point it is. Yeah, I mean we're gonn We're

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Speaker 3: gonna bring it up some or i mean, Rob.

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Speaker 6: Seven seven you want to see me in the movie.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to see me in the movie? Oh,

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Speaker 3: and don't let me do it. I'm going full Rob Parker.

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Speaker 4: Every day I'm.

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Speaker 3: Gonna say, oh, I just found this, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: show you all screenshot of me on set. Oh I

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Speaker 3: just found I just found this. Found this the movie

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Speaker 3: coming out. Make sure you check it out. Hey, I'm

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Speaker 3: on set. They're like, don't take any pictures. Gods who

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Speaker 3: want to keep it under wraps. I'm still gonna be

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Speaker 3: on set and doing the rod like a set.

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Speaker 4: Day three.

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Speaker 6: You gonna you're gonna get fired day one.

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Speaker 4: I know they don't.

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Speaker 6: They don't play about that. No, no, keep it, keep it,

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Speaker 6: keep it on the wraps, Keep it on the wraps.

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Speaker 3: Trevor Laying on the Way, host of the Lakers Nation podcast.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to him about some possible moves the Lakers

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Speaker 3: can make uh this offseason and if he thought maybe

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Speaker 3: they should have made some moves before the trade deadline ended.

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Speaker 4: Right now, Chris Profret is gonna get your set on

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Speaker 4: what's training? Hey, Chris.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search f s

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Speaker 2: are to listen live.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I tell you what. Thank you, Chris. Yeah, they

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Speaker 4: don't need that right now.

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Speaker 3: You're trying to the union needs to be unified, trying

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Speaker 3: to have you know, a unify front. Now you're losing

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Speaker 3: you're president and all that. We thought that scandal. Hey,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk about that. I'm sure another day.

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Speaker 12: It is.

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Speaker 3: The couple carries in for Rob on a trash talking Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: joined now by Trevor Lane, host of the Lakers Nation podcast.

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lane, what's up man? How you doing?

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Speaker 12: Hey, I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on the show.

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Speaker 4: No doubt appreciated.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 4: Hey, let's let's let's go here. Lakers.

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Speaker 3: I want to go back maybe a week or two ago.

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Speaker 3: Lakers don't really make any moves. They are who they

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Speaker 3: are right now, as that's what they're gonna put off

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Speaker 3: for the rest of this season. Uh surprise, maybe not surprised.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of their their trades or lack thereof.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean there was always going to be the

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Speaker 12: lure of potentially having three first round puts takes to

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Speaker 12: put into a trade this summer. That was going to

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Speaker 12: be something they were going to have to work past

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Speaker 12: if they were going to find some type of deal

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Speaker 12: here at the trade that mine. They ultimately decided they're

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Speaker 12: going to kick the can down the road a little

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Speaker 12: bit and see if they can make some big movie

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Speaker 12: this summer. According to what Rob Plakas said, the right

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Speaker 12: opportunity just wasn't there at the trade deadline. They made

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Speaker 12: a smaller move, getting Luke can Ard gave up a

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Speaker 12: sack round take and gave Vinson in order to make

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Speaker 12: that happen. I think he'll be a good fit. But

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Speaker 12: in terms of really building this roster around Luca, they're

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Speaker 12: going to have to do most of the work this

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Speaker 12: coming summer. So it was a pretty quiet trade deadline

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Speaker 12: for them, but it's setting them up for what could

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Speaker 12: be a big, big summer.

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Speaker 9: Trevor, I got this. This is the thing about the

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Speaker 9: Lakers right now. They're sitting in the fifth spot. Right now,

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Speaker 9: they are a game and a half out of third

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Speaker 9: behind Denver, and you know, post All Star break, Lebron

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Speaker 9: makes the comments about this team not being a championship team,

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Speaker 9: and to begin the beginning of the season, you would

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Speaker 9: think that would be the case with okay, seeing their

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Speaker 9: dominance right Denver, but this it seems a little bit

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Speaker 9: more wide open to me then I guess the original

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Speaker 9: idea would be coming into the season. Where do you

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Speaker 9: see this team going from here? Right now with this

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Speaker 9: current iteration of the.

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Speaker 12: Team, yeah, I have them as unfortunately not in the

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Speaker 12: contender tier. They're up there among the top teams in

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Speaker 12: the Western Conference or even the Eastern Conference. They do

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Speaker 12: have some fatal flaws that I think would trip them

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Speaker 12: up come playoff time. That doesn't mean they're going to

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Speaker 12: be going home immediately. I think they could be a

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Speaker 12: second round team something like that. But I think in

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Speaker 12: order to fully get into title contention, they just have

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Speaker 12: too many weaknesses on their roster that we knew. Frankly,

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Speaker 12: we knew they were going to have these weaknesses going

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Speaker 12: into the season just by looking at the roster. It's

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Speaker 12: played out that way on the floor. Not that they're

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Speaker 12: a bad team, they're a good Team's quite a great team,

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Speaker 12: and so yeah, I don't think they're going to be

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Speaker 12: staying too long in the postseason. Unfortunately, Lebron his assessment

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Speaker 12: is right there. They're not a contender right now. I

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Speaker 12: hope I'm wrong and they stick around a long time,

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Speaker 12: but right now they do look like they're step or

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Speaker 12: two below the top tier teams.

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Speaker 4: Well, stay there for a minute. You just brought up Lebron.

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Speaker 3: We obviously know there's reports that he felt a particular

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Speaker 3: way that they didn't, you know, want to resign him early,

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Speaker 3: start negotiating that off from extension. Is this the last rode?

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Speaker 3: Is this the hey first round? At is it second

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Speaker 3: round exit? And this is how Lebron's tenure is going

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Speaker 3: to end, or there's reports to say, hey, if he's

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Speaker 3: willing to come back at a real Steve haircut, they'd

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Speaker 3: accept him.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, this very well could be it. I mean this

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Speaker 12: is now. There's multiple options here that could see Lebron

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Speaker 12: James with the Lakers next year. One of them is

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Speaker 12: he could retire. There's kind of be it for him

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Speaker 12: in his NBA career. We don't know for sure what's

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Speaker 12: going to happen with that. I have heard that the

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Speaker 12: idea that he needs a retirement tour has been overstated

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Speaker 12: and that may not really be a thing. But retirement

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Speaker 12: could be an option for him. He could also wind

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Speaker 12: up signing with another team. There's not a lot of

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Speaker 12: cap space out there, but he could sign somewhere else.

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Speaker 12: There have been a lot of rumors about him going

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Speaker 12: to the Cleveland Cavaliers. The Lakers, I think they'd be

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Speaker 12: okay bringing Lebron back. They're open to that happening, but

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Speaker 12: they just want to make sure that they can build

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Speaker 12: the rest of the team out around Luca. That's the

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Speaker 12: most important thing for them right now is putting the

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Speaker 12: kind of team around Luka Doncics that he needs, and

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Speaker 12: that means finding athletic, switchy wing to that can also

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Speaker 12: shoot the basketball, the kinds of players that Franklin the

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Speaker 12: Lakers have been trying to land or needed to land

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Speaker 12: for a few years now and haven't been able to.

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Speaker 12: But they have to put all of their effort into

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Speaker 12: finding those types of players. And if there's room left

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Speaker 12: for Lebron James and one of that's going to depend

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Speaker 12: on how much he needs going to need to get

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Speaker 12: on this next contract. But if there's room left over

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Speaker 12: for Lebron after that, then I think we may may

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Speaker 12: get to that point where the Lakers say, hey, Lebron,

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Speaker 12: do you want to try to run it back again?

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Speaker 12: This is what we put together, this is how much

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Speaker 12: money we have left over. Do you want to stay

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Speaker 12: with the Lakers? And then and we'll see where ultimately

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Speaker 12: that lands.

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Speaker 9: Trevor, I want to talk about the Lakers big man.

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Speaker 9: He's one of the most confusing people on this planet

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Speaker 9: to me, because sometimes no, he is because he can play,

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Speaker 9: he plays really well sometimes and then he just falls

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Speaker 9: off the face of the map. Like what's the tenor

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Speaker 9: with DeAndre Ayton and his team moving forward?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, DeAndre Eaton is certainly frustrating in that regard, and

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Speaker 12: he's been that way for the course of his career.

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Speaker 12: Right This has been something that you talked to you

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Speaker 12: body in Phoenix, you talk to anybody in Portland, and

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Speaker 12: that's only all the same things that he has issues

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Speaker 12: with his motor. He'll play really hard one game and

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Speaker 12: then not the next. Certain matchups he does well, in

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Speaker 12: certain ones he doesn't. He has been just fine as

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Speaker 12: an eight million dollars center to fill into that starting

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Speaker 12: job this season for the Lakers. I think the one

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Speaker 12: thing we know is that he's not the long term

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Speaker 12: fit with Luca. We talked about players that are going

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Speaker 12: to fit around Luka Doncicch for the long haul. De

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Speaker 12: Andre Eighton is not. That. He is fine as a

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Speaker 12: placeholder for the time being, and he's done okay. He's

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Speaker 12: much better to start the season. He's had a bit

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Speaker 12: of a slower stretch here over the last month or so,

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Speaker 12: but but de Andre Eaton is fine for right now.

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Speaker 12: I do think ultimately they're going to have to get

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Speaker 12: somebody that just plays with the higher motor to really

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Speaker 12: fit next to Luca and Austin Reeves here moving forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's been the issue is that motor you're talking about,

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Speaker 3: Trevor Trevor Lane, host of the Lakers Nation podcast All

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Speaker 3: with the Odd Couple, kelvin Washington, Kerry Rose in for

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Speaker 3: Robin the Trash Talk on Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: I want to go here, Trevor, what we got. We

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Speaker 4: know there's new ownership.

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Speaker 3: If they are anything like how they are with the Dodgers,

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Speaker 3: they're not playing around.

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Speaker 4: They want wins, they want championships.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of the job security for Rocklinka

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Speaker 3: is do you think he's the guy that're saying we're

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Speaker 3: gonna ride with for the next X amount of years

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Speaker 3: or is he on the hot seat?

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Speaker 12: I think of this summer doesn't go well, then the

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Speaker 12: seat will start to get a bit warmer. But for

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Speaker 12: right now, everything we're hearing is that his job is

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Speaker 12: pretty safe. Mark Walter is coming in and he wants

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Speaker 12: to keep Genie Buss and the governor role for the team,

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Speaker 12: and Rob Plink will be there now. That said, what

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Speaker 12: we understand is that the front office is going to

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Speaker 12: be built out more. There's going to be more funds

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Speaker 12: coming into the front office personnel. That means more scouting,

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Speaker 12: more player development, more analytics. All these sorts of things,

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Speaker 12: all the areas that are not affected by the NBA

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Speaker 12: salary camp, which means not players on the floor. All

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Speaker 12: of that, I think is going to receive an influx

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Speaker 12: of funds and essentially a dodge errification, right if you will.

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Speaker 12: Love of the Lakers, So I'm excited to see what

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Speaker 12: a fully built town Lakers front office is going to

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Speaker 12: look like. They've been known for years for being one

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Speaker 12: of the smaller front offices in the NBA. I think

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Speaker 12: that is about to change. But Rob Blinka appears to

671
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Speaker 12: be sticking in the lead decision maker role as the

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Speaker 12: GM for the time being. Should this summer not go well,

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Speaker 12: and you know, if Lucas starts getting a little anty

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Speaker 12: with the way the team's being built out, maybe that changes.

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Speaker 12: But I do think for the foreseeable future, assuming things

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Speaker 12: go well this summer, Rob Blink is going.

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Speaker 3: To continue to be the guy I got one more

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Speaker 3: for you real quick, when the guy we don't talk

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Speaker 3: about often now because there is this Lebron's last year.

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Speaker 4: Is he going to come back?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 3: They got Luca Austin Reeves. Where is he this summer?

683
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Speaker 3: He has a player option? Where are we with Austin

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Speaker 3: Reeves obviously started off white hot, no pun intended, and

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Speaker 3: then all of a sudden he's injured. He's nicked up,

686
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Speaker 3: and so he's been in and out the lineup. Where

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Speaker 3: where do you expect to see what they decide to

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Speaker 3: do with him and how the size.

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Speaker 12: Of do the Lakers want to keep off some Reeves?

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Speaker 12: They want him to be one of their pieces moving forward.

691
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Speaker 12: It's pretty clear based on what happened around the NBA

692
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Speaker 12: at the trade that mine, all the other teams with

693
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Speaker 12: cap space used their cap space, so they I think

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Speaker 12: they're anticipating Austin saying with the Lakers, if there was

695
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Speaker 12: a real thought that he was going to leave, other

696
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Speaker 12: teams would have tried to load up on cap space

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Speaker 12: to make a run at him. But he's been very

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Speaker 12: specific saying he wants to play only for the Lakers,

699
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Speaker 12: he wants to be a Laker for life, all those

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Speaker 12: sorts of things, and I believe the feeling is mutual.

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Speaker 12: I think he's going to be a long term piece

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Speaker 12: for the Lakers. They want to build around him and Luga,

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Speaker 12: with Austin acting as that secondary ball handler in the

704
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Speaker 12: Kyrie irving role. The Jalen Brunson role. I'm not saying

705
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Speaker 12: Austin in that same tier of player, but role wise,

706
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Speaker 12: want to be want him to be in that situation

707
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Speaker 12: to have somebody who could take some of that pressure

708
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Speaker 12: off of Lucas. So he's not going to pick up

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Speaker 12: that player option. He already was offered an extension this

710
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Speaker 12: past summer and he declined that, but that was simply

711
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Speaker 12: a financial thing. I believe Austin Raves and the Lakers

712
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Speaker 12: will come to terms on a new deal pretty early

713
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Speaker 12: on in free agency. They may not actually sign it

714
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Speaker 12: for a little bit where they use some of the

715
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Speaker 12: extra cap space from his cap hold it or to

716
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Speaker 12: make some other moves. But I would be very surprised

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Speaker 12: at bost some reads with anything but a Laker next season.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, you listen, you probably are right, but

719
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Speaker 3: they're definitely gonna need to pick up some defenders. If

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Speaker 3: those two guys are your mainstays, you're gonna need some

721
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Speaker 3: lengthy wing defenders for sure. Hey, Trevor, appreciate it, man,

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. All right, Trevor, no doubt Treumvor Lane,

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Speaker 3: go ahead and give him a follow if you can't

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Speaker 3: at Trevor Lane on X last call, Carrie We're already here.

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Speaker 3: time eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.

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Speaker 4: We'll take one more call.

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Speaker 3: It is Last Call next with the Rock Couple carry

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Speaker 3: in for Rob kelvin Washington on the Trash Talk on Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Oh, little Jill Scott, I haven't checked out the new

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Speaker 3: album you Carrie, miss Mary Back, I haven't checked out

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Speaker 3: her new album.

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Speaker 6: I haven't heard it yet.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I'm excited though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she usually doesn't miss too.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's gonna be candy.

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Speaker 6: I gotta check that out.

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Speaker 4: It's the Couple.

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Speaker 3: Carrie roses in for Rob kelvin Washington on the Trash

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Speaker 3: Talking Tuesday. I want to say big thank you to

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lane who just joined us. He from Salaam joined

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Speaker 3: us as well. Thank you to our guest. Thank you

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Speaker 3: for you for listening. Of course, on a Trash Talking Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: As always, it is greatly appreciated, and uh, let's.

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Speaker 4: Get to it now. It's now time for last call,

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Speaker 4: Last call. Who we got? We got?

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Speaker 6: Raheem serracues you on with the couple.

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Speaker 4: What's up right? You are the last Goll brother.

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Speaker 13: I got two things I want to say. The first

756
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Speaker 13: one is about Belichick. I feel like they give Brady

757
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Speaker 13: too much credit. Man, if Belichick would have got rid

758
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Speaker 13: of from a year early like he do his players,

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Speaker 13: and with Garupfolo no telling what the future would have

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Speaker 13: been for him, Craft painted his future his legacy. To

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Speaker 13: just to give all the credit to Brady, to say

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Speaker 13: it was all him, I find I find that in

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Speaker 13: a little outrageous. And the second one I want to

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Speaker 13: say is about teams taking in the NBA. They say't

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Speaker 13: do it the right way, play hard in the draft.

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Speaker 13: But if you don't, if you don't really make the playoffs,

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Speaker 13: you just so. I say, reward teams for playing hard.

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Speaker 13: Give more ridery boss to teams that's the first team

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Speaker 13: out the playoffs, give them just the goodest shot to

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Speaker 13: get a high pick as a as a low record

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Speaker 13: team that wait a minute, the teams to grow to

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Speaker 13: the war team, to play your heart so win or

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Speaker 13: playing the right way.

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Speaker 3: Like they say, and no doubt appreciate the call. A

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Speaker 3: couple of the I'm gonna jumping a couple of those points, man, Carrie.

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Speaker 3: This is what Rob and I've been discussing, like, how

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Speaker 3: do you get rid of Tank and win? It's aho

778
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Speaker 3: A lot of owners and a lot of analysts will say,

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Speaker 3: I mean, shoot, this is the only way you get good. Right,

780
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Speaker 3: you tank, you lose, you get Lebron. Now you're the

781
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 3: cast for so long, you're Dereck Rose the Bulls. You

782
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Speaker 3: get your hometown guy for a handful of years before

783
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Speaker 3: the injuries, you get good. If you're the Mavericks, you

784
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: look bad. You mess around and got Cooper Flagg. Look

785
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Speaker 3: like you got your future, as you would know. So

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Speaker 3: a lot of teams are saying, hey, you know, everybody

787
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Speaker 3: can't be this this destination. Utah ain't getting free agents,

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Speaker 3: you know. So they're like, well, shoot, this is the

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Speaker 3: only way we can do it. We get repair, We

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Speaker 3: got some guy if you like market in, maybe Ace

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Speaker 3: Bailey turns into something, and then we go in and

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Speaker 3: get another guy in the next year, next couple of

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Speaker 3: years of drafts, and now we're cooking. So I just

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Speaker 3: think it's tough to say, like, well, just don't suck

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Speaker 3: and don't te and it's like, well, what.

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Speaker 4: Do you want me to do to get good?

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Speaker 3: I keep getting eye players that ain't gonna cut it.

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Speaker 3: Ain't nobody coming to Utah, ain't nobody coming to maybe Charlotte.

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Speaker 4: So I understand this point of that.

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Speaker 3: I did want to get your thoughts on this because

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Speaker 3: I haven't talked to you since the whole Hall of

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Speaker 3: Fame thing, Bill Belichick not getting in first ballot, Robert

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Speaker 3: Kraft not getting in again, your thoughts, you know, you

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Speaker 3: played against those guys being in that division, your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: I haven't had a chance to actually hear your thoughts

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Speaker 4: on it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Belichick's first ballot Hall of Famer. That's not on

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Speaker 9: the first ballot Hall of Fame. So my opinion he

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Speaker 9: should have been there. Obviously, the cheating stuff and possibly

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Speaker 9: the way that he rubbed some of the reporters the

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Speaker 9: media people wrong with the way he approached his interviews

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Speaker 9: and stuff like that, Maybe that had a negative connotation

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Speaker 9: to it. I don't know, but it seems like the

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Speaker 9: cheating stuff was a big deal, and I.

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Speaker 4: Well, hold on, was it to you though you played

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Speaker 4: against them.

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Speaker 9: I mean to me, it wasn't because I didn't know

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Speaker 9: that it was happening as much as it was right

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Speaker 9: at the time. We're playing and we hear these things,

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Speaker 9: which Mangini came from there, right, and so he was

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Speaker 9: the one to kind of out it that situation or

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Speaker 9: kind of lit them in on the secret.

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Speaker 4: But he said, don't do what y'all. Don't do it.

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Speaker 4: You know y'all doing other people to us, I know

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Speaker 4: what exactly.

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Speaker 9: So I was a part of that, but we didn't

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Speaker 9: think that much about it. We were actually competing against

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Speaker 9: those guys and we.

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Speaker 6: We wanted to get we beat them.

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Speaker 4: Y'all had success.

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Speaker 6: He had success.

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Speaker 9: So for me it wasn't It wasn't like it is

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Speaker 9: for I think the outside world, the people that were

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Speaker 9: kind of new to what was happening.

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Speaker 4: It was interesting.

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Speaker 3: And this is where me and Rob get into I

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Speaker 3: told him, I said, because Rob has this in my

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Speaker 3: mind overblown view of like utopia in this perfect world.

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Speaker 3: I tell him, dude, the reason why a lot of

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Speaker 3: the athletes because he was shocked, why aren't you guys

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Speaker 3: more masks because they all know they're cheating, And because.

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Speaker 4: He's trying to find an edge, what gloves works a

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Speaker 4: little stickier? What can we do this?

844
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Speaker 3: Hey, we put a little more quarterbacks, probably getting a

845
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Speaker 3: little air out of the ball.

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Speaker 4: Not just Tom Brady like everyone, Jimmy.

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Speaker 3: Johnson said, Man, we tried to cheat a few times

848
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Speaker 3: the same way we weren't. We couldn't get the information

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Speaker 3: in fast enough to you to sizes. So, like I'm

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Speaker 3: always telling Rob Way, more athletes are okay with this

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Speaker 3: because they know their game plans. They were trying to

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Speaker 3: find some edge, some way, some player to do something

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Speaker 3: at something.

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Speaker 9: But I think, and even piggyback on a piggybacking on

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Speaker 9: that we would sign a player from a team that

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Speaker 9: got released last week if we were going to play

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Speaker 9: that team next week. Like there's there's just things about

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Speaker 9: the NFL and competitive advantage that we're always trying to get.

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Speaker 3: So absolutely, man, yeah, So, and I think they just

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Speaker 3: wanted to say you're going in, we know that, but

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Speaker 3: you ain't going in without almbits, meaning you ain't going

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Speaker 3: in first ballot.

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Speaker 4: That was my thoughts.

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Speaker 3: All right, Kerry, appreciate it, man, great talking you, great,

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Speaker 3: hanging out, great doing the show.

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back at it. Tomorrow we'll have you

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Speaker 4: from Salam, and Rob is still on a wine vacation.

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Speaker 6: We out always