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Speaker 1: Calling all my sweetish to the forefront. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: christ and this is the Keep It Positive Swedish show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to keep it Positive, Sweete the place where we

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Speaker 1: he'll grow and learn together. Today's guest is a corporate leader, speaker,

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Speaker 1: and now author whose story is rooted in grit, transformation,

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Speaker 1: and the power of owning every part of who you are.

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Speaker 1: I am so glad to be sitting with Tiffany Willis.

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Speaker 1: Tiffany Willis is a CPA Fortune one hundred executive and

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Speaker 1: motivational speaker whose journey is nothing short of extraordinary. From

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Speaker 1: becoming a mother at fourteen and experiencing homelessness to leading

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Speaker 1: at the highest levels of corporate America, including serving as

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Speaker 1: senior vice president at Starbucks, she has built a career

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Speaker 1: and a life defined by resilience, grit, to discipline, and purpose. Now,

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Speaker 1: through her book, Own Your Narrative, she's inviting others to

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Speaker 1: reframe their stories, showing that your struggles are not some

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Speaker 1: thing you have to hide, but something that can shape

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Speaker 1: your strength. Kis solely please give a very warm welcome

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Speaker 1: to now author Tiffany Willis. How are you doing, Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me welcome.

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Speaker 1: Yes, No, we're happy to have you today. Your story

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Speaker 1: is so dynamic. When I heard about it, I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: we have to have her on.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. I'm so excited to keep the positive.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna have a good time today. I remember

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Speaker 1: we first met. There was an event that I did

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Speaker 1: with Trey Young and you were There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: executives there from different brands, and you were there when

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Speaker 1: we got to meet. So when Wes was like she

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Speaker 1: wrote a book, I was like, oh, we have to

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Speaker 1: have her on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Absolutely. So before we get into everything and talk

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Speaker 1: about your book, I want to play a quick game

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Speaker 1: of rapid fire. This is just to break the ice

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Speaker 1: and then we're going to get into it. Okay, perfect.

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Speaker 1: So the first in it comes to mind your Starbucks order?

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Speaker 2: Oh, my Starbucks order. It would be a ventive Vanela

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Speaker 2: bean frappuccino with caramel wall and heavy caramel drizzle on top,

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Speaker 2: because caramel is a vegetable.

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Speaker 1: Why I think I just learned that today. She said

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Speaker 1: caramel wall, So Kramela is.

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Speaker 2: Gonn put it in the cut when it goes around

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Speaker 2: the cuss, I love that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's that sounds good? Nice and sweet?

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Speaker 2: Nice and sweet?

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay. Do you like a red eye or daytime flight?

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Speaker 2: A red eye?

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Speaker 1: Me too? I love it, especially coming from La.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're still productive all day?

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Speaker 1: Yes exactly.

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Speaker 2: Heels are sneakers, oh, sneakers, especially chucks?

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Speaker 1: Okays, yes, there you go. What's your I need a

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Speaker 1: moment ritual.

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Speaker 2: I need a moment ritual. Would have to be listening

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Speaker 2: to Beyonce.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're my kind of girl. All right, we are here.

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Speaker 1: I love it. What's a small thing that brings you joy?

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Speaker 2: A small thing that brings me joy? Probably fresh air,

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Speaker 2: right because it's just quiet, it's open, you can just walk,

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Speaker 2: So I think the fresh air really brings me like

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Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, do you like Have you checked

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Speaker 1: out the trails here in Georgia? The walking trail a

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Speaker 2: But right now you can't go out because it's all

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Speaker 1: Baby. I literally just did some signus drops before we

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Speaker 1: started this interview, because every like five minutes, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: am I about to sneeze? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like rainy lemon pepper out here right now?

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Speaker 1: That's on Instagram where somebody said this is what happened

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Speaker 1: with lemon pepper. Yes, yes, exactly, literally, that is what's happening. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm super excited to have you here today. We were

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Speaker 1: talking about your new book, Own Your Narrative. I feel

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Speaker 1: like that has been a mantra of yours throughout your life.

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Speaker 1: Let me know why. Now you decided to write a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so for me, Own your Narrative was very easy

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Speaker 2: to select as my book because I always do speaking

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Speaker 2: engagements and it's all about owning your narrative. And so

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Speaker 2: my whole mantra is I cannot celebrate my success without

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Speaker 2: acknowledging my scars, and that essence is the crutch of

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Speaker 2: owning your narrative. Whatever your journey is, whatever your past is,

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Speaker 1: I love that. That's so good. In your book, you

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Speaker 1: say the window seal was my refrigerator. Yes, let's talk

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Speaker 1: think about that version of Tiffany. What did survival look

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Speaker 2: What did survival look like on that particular day? Survival

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Speaker 2: was really just putting one foot in front of the other.

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Speaker 2: But I would say even that moment of Tiffany and

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Speaker 2: and so being able to put my son's milk on

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Speaker 2: Other people probably thought it was poverty. For me, it

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Speaker 2: was actually progress, right, And so I would just say

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Speaker 2: that that moment of a Tiffany is still the same

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Speaker 2: moment today. It's just those steps are different. They represent

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Speaker 1: People see you now as it's executive, this woman who

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Speaker 1: has made it, but your story when people read it,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for people to tive into your book because

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Speaker 1: when they read it, like they're going to see themselves

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Speaker 1: in a lot of areas of your life. But I

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Speaker 1: want to take you back to young Tiffany. Yes, how

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Speaker 1: What was it like growing up? And like, where did

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Speaker 1: it changes, like twenty times before you actually grow up.

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Speaker 1: But where did young Tiffany see herself going?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So first, what did you want to be when

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Speaker 1: I want to be an actor and a singer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: look at God, Look at God. I want to do it.

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Speaker 1: Yes you will. Yes.

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Speaker 2: So for me, when I was growing up, I would

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Speaker 2: say I was in the all American family. Right. It

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Speaker 2: the white picket fence, the three cars. What people would

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Speaker 2: I think I had this vision of what success looked

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Speaker 2: in community service and politics, and so I thought, and

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Speaker 2: or something right, something phenomenal, a doctor. It was just

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Speaker 2: You have no other options. And so that's how I

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Speaker 2: But all that then changed. But my childhood, I would say,

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Speaker 1: what was that moment like? First of all, like going

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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't even I didn't even get that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I remember leaving. The first thing my mother

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Speaker 1: And what was your relationship relationship like with your father?

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Speaker 2: people gravitate to one versus the other. I was definitely

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Speaker 1: Take us back to that day when you're walking in

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she's probably in disbelief, like not my baby, right.

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Speaker 2: Because here I am, this child of someone that's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my goodness. I couldn't imagine, like one. My dad

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Speaker 2: Heartbreaking at that age, right, you're you're not used to

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Speaker 2: Absolutely right, I say therapy is like getting your hair

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I love that. When did you begin to

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Speaker 2: And I remember feeling like, but you didn't help me

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Speaker 2: But then as I matured, I realized eating that pie

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Speaker 2: And so being able to realize, like I want to

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Speaker 2: it's not a matter of how's that relationship? Is there

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Speaker 1: Love that. That's beautiful analogy. It's not as good as

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Speaker 2: And so just telling people what you need and so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in that perspective, I feel like your your ability

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Speaker 2: Ooh, well, I think it was probably part being surrounded

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Speaker 2: So I didn't understand why all of a sudden I

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Speaker 2: looking at me, they always say, how did you do it?

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Speaker 1: Girl?

437
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I'm like, how could I not have?

438
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, for sure. I mean I would think, even

439
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 1: at a young age, navigating that and then deciding, Okay,

440
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 1: I'm going to do this, but with your child Exactly.

441
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: I've got my child on my back while I'm doing

442
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: all this. What was that like? Even trying to juggle

443
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: the two, like going for what you really wanted, but

444
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: also having this little mouth to feed.

445
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, difficult, right. That's that's where those knees get

446
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 2: all kind of scrapes and bruises, because you're spending just

447
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 2: as much time on your knees as you are trying

448
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 2: to put one step in front of the other. I

449
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 2: remember having to go to school and take my son

450
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: with me because there's an evening class and you need

451
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 2: that evening class to graduate. Well, day here's closed at

452
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: six o'clock and so I'm there with everybody else who's

453
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 2: on their parents dime and this, that and the other,

454
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there with a child. But for me,

455
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Speaker 2: it was my determination. My drive to be better was

456
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 2: so much bigger than being uncomfortable or embarrassed that I

457
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 2: didn't have a choice, so all right, let's go. Yeah.

458
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, looking back, sometimes I say like, oh, how

459
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Speaker 2: did I do that? But I think when you're in

460
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 2: it right, you just make it work.

461
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And even I feel like in those

462
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Speaker 1: moments you lean on your faith even more. I feel

463
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Speaker 1: like you go back to what you know, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: and at what point, like you said, I spent more

465
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Speaker 1: as much time on my knees as I did trying

466
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Speaker 1: to take put one foot in front of the other,

467
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: how did you lean on your faith in those moments?

468
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's the only person I had to talk to.

469
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Speaker 1: And what were those conversations like? Because I know somebody

470
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Speaker 1: is going through this, it's going to hear this, yes,

471
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Speaker 1: and sometimes they don't have the words or even know

472
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Speaker 1: how to talk.

473
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Speaker 2: The thing that I would always say when things felt

474
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Speaker 2: heavy is God, I know You're not going to put

475
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: me through more than I can handle. Yes, I know

476
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 2: you're not gonna put me through more than I can handle,

477
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 2: and that would get me through the night. Yeah, it

478
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: would get me through the night.

479
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 1: Wow.

480
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: And so just knowing that there is someone rooting for

481
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 2: me would keep me going. Yeah, would keep me going.

482
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. There was a moment

483
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: when you stepped into a completely different version of yourself

484
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: and you ran for the two thousand and six Miss

485
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 1: Black Georgia USA. What made you even decide I'm going

486
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Speaker 1: to go for this, because that's like a huge thing,

487
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, like to live the life that you lived

488
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Speaker 1: previously and decide, hey, I'm going to go for this,

489
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Speaker 1: and I mean, I see you why, like you're gorgeous,

490
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Speaker 1: But yeah, what made you decide that like that? You

491
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: want to do that? Because the pageant? I was a

492
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Speaker 1: pageant girl and it is no joke. I love that.

493
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Speaker 2: So for me, when things were perfect, if you will,

494
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: I was in pageants as a young young girl.

495
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: That's a part of that lifestyle.

496
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a part of lifestyle. That's that's where the

497
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: piano lessons came from. And so I grew up around

498
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 2: that and so you fast forward. I have my son,

499
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: I'm now older.

500
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and my goal.

501
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: Was really to give back. And so at the time

502
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: before I rained, I had quote unquote adopted a group

503
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: of girls from a group home that was going through

504
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: the court system for sexual exploitation. And so in essence,

505
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: it was a campaign here that Shirley Franklin had when

506
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 2: she was our mayor, and it was around kind of

507
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: human trafficking, sex trafficking. And so these girls, as they

508
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 2: get picked up, if they're repeat offenders, they go to

509
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 2: this group home as opposed to going into like juvenile

510
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 2: detection or something. And so I would spend my sundays

511
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: with them, wow, mentoring, no makeup, no skin showing, just hairing,

512
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 2: a pony tone in sweats, yeah, but just trying to

513
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: mentor them and tell them there's a different way of

514
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: life and that beauty doesn't have to be through a

515
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 2: certain channel. And then when I saw the Miss Georgia opportunity,

516
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: I wanted to go and volunteer. That volunteering actually ended

517
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 2: up with me entering. Wow, So my initial thought was

518
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: not to enter. It was really to go volunteer and

519
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 2: try and help with this platform. And so once I entered,

520
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: luckily I was successful enough and I won and then

521
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: my platform was inspiring and empowering at risk youth. And

522
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: I would always say because I am one, Yes. And

523
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: then my goal was really to help people understand that

524
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: the people that are considered at risk youth look like

525
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: me exactly. And so if you can look at me,

526
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: or you can idle me, or you can see me

527
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: and applaud my success or applaud my journey, then why

528
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: can't we help them so they can be applauded as well.

529
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. What was that experience

530
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: like for you?

531
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: It's like a second job.

532
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: Well, at least yours was missed, so it was.

533
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: Miss Black Georgia. Yeah, so it's like a second job.

534
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: I'm working in corporate America. And in the evenings, I

535
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 2: remember there was like an album release party for like

536
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: Big Boy, and they're like, Okay, we want you there

537
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 2: to do X y Z or someone's opening a dealership.

538
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: We want you to cut the ribbon and be everywhere.

539
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: It was everywhere, Yeah, everywhere, on top of being a

540
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: single mother, on top of working full time. But for me,

541
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: my wife was so much bigger than I'm tired. Yes,

542
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: it was how do I get out there? How do

543
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: I get my profile out there, so then my platform

544
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: is out there.

545
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and it grew. Is it something you continue

546
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 1: to do today? Yes, that's amazing. Yes, I love that.

547
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: That is beautiful and I think now even with the

548
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Speaker 1: times that was in two thousand and six, yes, even

549
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: it's much worse. So that you were, you were ahead

550
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: of the curve even helping young women know's positions. So

551
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: that is incredible. You earned your NBA from Emery. Yes,

552
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: you went on to complete executive education at the Wharton School,

553
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: and you have worked for companies like Coca Cola, Hines, Viacom, CBS,

554
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: and now you are the senior vice president at Starbucks.

555
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: Talk about first of all, as the kids do. Congratulations

556
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: that is how you turned lemons into lemonade, Like you

557
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: did that. But I want to know going back, how

558
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: did you even get on that path to like this

559
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: is what I'm going to do and then this is

560
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: what I'm going for to get to the singing and

561
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: vice president of Starbucks, this huge company.

562
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: So my thought in going through school, I was always

563
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: good with numbers. Okay, so that's kind of the finance

564
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: accounting background. So I'm a CPA by nature. But when

565
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: people would see like the color blue on a crown,

566
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: I would see four. When you see red, I would

567
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: see three because I'm looking at the number of letters. Oh,

568
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: when you see yellow, I would see six.

569
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: Gotcha?

570
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: And so by nature, I ended up going into something

571
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: I was variable very comfortable with, which was accounting and finance. Okay,

572
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 2: but my goal in going into accounting and finance, I

573
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: wanted to be in the role that gives some money

574
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: back to the community. And so in my mind I

575
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: knew that was corporate responsibility, corporate engagement right with companies.

576
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 2: That was my focus. But then as I went through

577
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: my career journey, I realized it's the CFO that actually

578
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: dictates what percent corporate responsibility is going to get. Yes,

579
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 2: So then I said, well, how do I get closer

580
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: to CFO. Then as I started moving closer to CFO,

581
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: then I realized, wait a minute, it's the CEO that

582
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: sets the strategy, that says, if we're even going to

583
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: give into what areas. Is it going to be financial literacy,

584
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: is it going to be for food hunger? What are

585
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 2: we going to give to you? And so that's when

586
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: I set my mind on CEO. And so my goal

587
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: has been to be CEO since and so in my journey,

588
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: it's a matter of how do I get to the

589
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: CEO seat? How do I find myself sitting next to

590
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: a CEO so I can learn what they do, so

591
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: I can shadow them. And that placed me in the

592
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: role of investor relation. So in investor relations, I'm sitting

593
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: next to CEOs, I'm speaking to Wall Street on their behalf,

594
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 2: I'm traveling with them to Wall Street. I'm managing one

595
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty billion dollars in stock market on Wall Street,

596
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty billion with the B and then

597
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: I am supervising for trillion dollars in assets under management

598
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: on Wall Street. All because I want to get into

599
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: a seat, yes, where I can make decisions on how

600
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: we're going to give back to the community. Wow, because

601
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: I want those young Tiffanys to understand if I can

602
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: do it, yes, they can do it too.

603
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: Well. You are the living proof.

604
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: Seriously, I'm not there yet, though I'm there.

605
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: You really close. You're getting there, and I'm sure that

606
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: these are moments where you're developing relationships, you're still learning

607
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: and cultivating. So when you do get that seat, you'll

608
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: know exactly what to do and not a moment sooner

609
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: than it's supposed to happen. Yep. I truly believe that.

610
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: And God has you right where you're supposed to be.

611
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 1: I love that, and I do believe that because your

612
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: heart is in the right place, it's going to happen

613
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: for sure. No, seriously, Yes, you talk about investments, So

614
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: tell us about this role because I'm really big on

615
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: financial literacy. That's one of the pillars of my foundation

616
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: is making that our community yes understands financial literacy. I

617
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: need to get plugged into that. Definitely. Yes, we have

618
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: to get you like, yes, yes.

619
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Speaker 2: Yes, So for me, I explain it in terms of

620
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: Wall Street. Right, everyone that's working, if they have a

621
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: four oh one K or anything like that, it's being

622
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: managed by these big firms yep, the Fidelity, the Black Roth,

623
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: the State Street, the Vanguards, and so my job is

624
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: to talk to the individuals that are holding these basket

625
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: of stock in these portfolios. So you have your four

626
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: oh one K, it's with X company. There's going to

627
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: be a small cap basket with all the companies that

628
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: are considered small cap. There's going to be a basket

629
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: for international stocks, for companies that are international. There's going

630
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: to be a basket for very high growth type of companies, right,

631
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: and so Starbucks is sitting in one of those baskets.

632
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: My job is to talk to that person that's managing

633
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: that basket and make sure they put as much Starbucks

634
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: as possible in that basket to the point where they

635
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: have to push some other stock out the way, because

636
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: only so much can fit in that basket. The more

637
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: of our stock that goes in, the higher our stock

638
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: price goes. And so my job is to make sure

639
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: they understand our strategy, our performance, our innovation, so they're

640
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 2: excited to put more of that Starbucks stock into that

641
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: basket into that portfolio.

642
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I love that. So I need to get some

643
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: Starbucks stock.

644
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: Well, I can't say because I'd be insider trading.

645
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we do not So I said that. She

646
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: didn't say it forgot it.

647
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: See financial literacy.

648
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 1: Yes, we just learned something, we did. We just learned something.

649
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: So that is amazing. I want to know. There's a

650
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: line in your book that says you are enough, not

651
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: when you fix everything, but right now as you are. Well,

652
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: that's something that you always believe in or you had

653
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: to grow into that because right now you're sitting in

654
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,239
Speaker 1: seats where I don't know if you always believe that

655
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: you are enough for that seat, but now you're there,

656
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: is it something you had too to really? Kind of?

657
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: I ain't there yet. You there, honey stock, I am

658
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: not there yet until I get to that seat. Yes, yes,

659
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: I am not loosen I'm not loosening this foot up

660
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: off the gas. I feel like there's times where I

661
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: feel like I'm enough even though I'm not there yet.

662
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely.

663
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: And there's other times where I feel like I'm not.

664
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: Let's talk about those times, Like I'm.

665
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: Sitting in rooms where I have the founder of Starbucks,

666
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: multi billionaire. When he speaks, everyone listens. I am the

667
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: only one that looks like me. In that type of setting,

668
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: you don't feel like you belong, you don't feel like

669
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: you're enough, and so you almost wear this mask, you

670
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: almost wear this armor. But my philosophy has been I'm

671
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: gonna still be in that moment. I'm still going to

672
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: be there, I'm still going to take up space even

673
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: if i feel like I'm not enough. But I still

674
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: feel those I still feel those moments when I'm in

675
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: rooms and I'm the only one that looks like me.

676
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: It's there, right, poster syndrome. But I want people to

677
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: understand it doesn't go away.

678
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: Wow.

679
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: So you have to own where you're at in your journey.

680
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: You have to embrace your journey because it's never gonna

681
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 2: be if I get here or if I just keep moving,

682
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: then I'll be comfortable. Yeah, then I would have made it.

683
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: It's a journey that really never ends, and so you

684
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: have to embrace where you are.

685
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: Where you are, that's so good. I feel like you said,

686
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: it never stops. No matter what level you go to,

687
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: you're going to feel a little bit of that. Yes,

688
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: has there come a moment where you feel like, okay,

689
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: but I do belong here. Even if I'm feeling a

690
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: little uneasy, this is where I belong. Have you gotten

691
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: to a place where you feel mad?

692
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: I mean I'm comfortable. I'm very comfortable sitting in the room.

693
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: But right you still get the butterflies, especially in my role,

694
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: and people are asking, well, Tiffany, what's the street saying?

695
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: And so you're you know, you're in essence on a

696
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: stage in that room. Yes, and whatever you say, they're

697
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: listening and they're taking action against it. And so when

698
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: you sit in rooms with those big names, it is overwhelming. Yeah.

699
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: I will never allow myself to sit in a room

700
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: though and shrink good. But it doesn't mean that I

701
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: feel full. It doesn't mean that I feel one hundred

702
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: percent ready. But I will never allow myself to show

703
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: or shrink.

704
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeahha, I love that you are in a position of leadership. Yes,

705
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: what does that require from you internally? Like when you

706
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: get up every day knowing that you're going to the

707
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: office and you're going to have to lead your team,

708
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: what does that feel like? In What weight do you

709
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: have to carry with that? Yeah?

710
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 2: I think growing up in corporate America, I looked around

711
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: to see how other people were leaders and I tried

712
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 2: to mimic it, and it was very much I'm tough.

713
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: It was the tarzan I'm the boss, do as I say.

714
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: I need this, Nope, and I need it in ten minutes.

715
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: And it was this kind of mantra where I saw

716
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: people exerting their leadership and their talent and their title

717
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: as a way to manage people. And I realized that's

718
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: not how you bring the best out in people, because

719
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 2: I realized they weren't bringing the best out in me,

720
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: And so when I wake up and I think about leadership,

721
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: I think about how do I authentically connect with my team?

722
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

723
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know who my team spouse is. I know

724
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: which one of my teams is going through IVF. I

725
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: know which one of my teams is going through early

726
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: screening because they think they might have to get chemotherapy early. Like,

727
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: I know these things, and it's deeper than what's the deliverable?

728
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 2: What are we trying to get accomplished? Because then they

729
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: go one hundred and ten percent harder for me because

730
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: I'm showing up connecting with them on a personal level,

731
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: not on an employee level. I think that's a lot

732
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: of times when people miss in leadership. Yeah, they think

733
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: it's title now will dictate and determine how someone should

734
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: listen to them, And it's really the connection.

735
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so true, and that's a good point

736
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: for all leaders out there. That is so good. You

737
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: also say in your book perfection isolates, but authenticity connects,

738
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: which is basically what you just said. So you live

739
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: by that even through your leadership skills on your at work.

740
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: What made you realize that authenticity wasn't something that was optional,

741
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: but it was something that would you need it as

742
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: a leader.

743
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think as I just started managing more and

744
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: more individuals in the corporate space and seeing how we

745
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: connect versus when I would do speaking engagements and I

746
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 2: would be authentic and I would tell my story, and

747
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: seeing how I would connect to those individuals. And it

748
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: was just a matter of realizing that people are coming

749
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: to work dealing with things, and when they come out

750
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: the car, you try and leave it at the door,

751
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: but you can't leave it at the door. You're wearing it.

752
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: And so how do I connect with them so they

753
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: feel comfortable where they're not coming in with that weight.

754
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: And I remember having a speaking engagement and I was

755
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: on stage and it was like bright lights and the

756
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: big auditorium full of individuals. Everyone's in like nice polished suits.

757
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: And I get down from stage and they take the

758
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: lapel off me, and I'm talking to the people backstage right,

759
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: the cameras, the crews, and I'm saying goodbye. So I leave.

760
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: I pushed the black curtain open and there was a

761
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: young lady and she's just sitting there sobbing, crying, and

762
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: she doesn't look like me, And I remember looking at

763
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: her almost like has she been waiting for me all

764
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: this time, because I was taking my good old time

765
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: in the back. And I went up to her and

766
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: she said thank you. And I still remember it like

767
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: it's yesterday, even though it was years ago. But she

768
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: says thank you, and I went to hug her and

769
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: embrace her, and I'm thinking, like, you know, she just

770
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: really enjoyed the speech. And she goes on to say, like, no,

771
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: you don't understand. I am an attic of seven years wow.

772
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: And this is a corporate America setting. And I look

773
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: around at all my colleagues, and I look at everybody

774
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 2: who graced that stage, and I thought, everyone is perfect,

775
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 2: and I don't belong here. And when I feel pressure

776
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: and I feel like I don't belong, I tend to

777
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: revert back to my old habits of how you deal

778
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: with stress. But for once, I finally feel like I

779
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: belonged because you showed me that you can still be

780
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: valuable if you're not perfect. Yes, she said, so thank

781
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: you for pulling that weight off my shoulders.

782
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

783
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: And so that's when I learned like people are dealing

784
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: with things. Yes they are, and they might seem polished

785
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: and smiling and happy, but just that authenticity can make

786
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: such a big difference versus perfection. Which if I would

787
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: have went up there and not told my story, I

788
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: would have left the stage and this young lady would

789
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: have went home still feeling the weight of being at

790
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: a conference where everyone else looked perfect, everybody suits for polish,

791
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,959
Speaker 2: and yet her feeling like she wasn't enough.

792
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I feel like when people do that, you're

793
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: helping more than your not when you come as your

794
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: true self, share your truth, because everybody's going through something

795
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: like we talked about, but also people are battling things. Yes,

796
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: and to know that you just being if it helped one, yes,

797
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 1: you've done your job. You know, how did you feel

798
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 1: when you left that that conference that day?

799
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: I felt heavy and light?

800
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

801
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: Right, I felt heavy because I heard her story. Yeah,

802
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: but I felt light because I also felt like I

803
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: helped someone right without knowing.

804
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

805
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: And that's the best way to help, because you're not

806
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: looking for something in return, You're just doing it out

807
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: of the goodness. And so it gives me kind of

808
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: reinforcement and confirmation that there is value in being authentic.

809
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: As much as people will say, why do you tell

810
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: your story? You've made it to a certain level, like

811
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 2: most leaders don't tell their story.

812
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: Yes, well that's most leaders exactly. Yeah. I feel like

813
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: that's a big part of the podcast is making sure

814
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: that just be share stories that are hit, that resonate,

815
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: that are true, and that really that people can take

816
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: away and say, hey, I see myself and Tiffy's because

817
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, people are gonna watch it

818
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: and be like that's me. Yes, and they're gonna also

819
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: leave inspired knowing that they can do better because you've

820
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: done better. So thank you for sharing your truth.

821
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

822
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: Yes, you became a mother at a young age, but

823
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: then you also had children later on. What was the

824
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: difference in fourteen year old Tiffany as a mom and

825
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: then girl Tiffany as a mom and how did those

826
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: experiences shape you?

827
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're definitely different experiences.

828
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I see each child my mom was like,

829
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: every child's different.

830
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: I would say it reinforces what people have been telling me,

831
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: which was I don't know how you did it. Yeah,

832
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: because now having children, I'm like, who you got what

833
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: you got basketball? And you got you got this, and

834
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: you got that and what y'all got to eat too?

835
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: Right?

836
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 2: And I still got a call to do and so

837
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: in my mind, I'm like, how did I do this?

838
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: Yes?

839
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: So now I see when people are like, I don't

840
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: know how you did it, and I'm like, you just

841
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: have to do it. Once I became a mother again,

842
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: I realized it. But it's definitely different. My first child,

843
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: I was growing up myself. That's always trying to grow

844
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: as a mother. I was learning how to be a

845
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: teenager and a young adult at the same time I

846
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: was learning how to be a mother. And so with anything,

847
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: with any job, right, you take your experience with you.

848
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: And so I've had the privilege of taking that experience

849
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: with me. I love it, but I would say it

850
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: definitely made me a better person going through it. But yeah,

851
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: I I am the single moms now because I'm like, girl,

852
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it. Yes, I don't

853
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: know how I did it.

854
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: But how are you balancing it now that you have

855
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: a career and motherhood? That's a different, a whole other

856
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: beast in itself.

857
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: Yes, it's different, it is. But now my children are older.

858
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: So my second child is eighteen, Okay, so he's about

859
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: to go to college, and so he's been driving for

860
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: a couple of years, and so then he can help

861
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 2: the younger one, which my daughter's fourteen, and so they're

862
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: a little older. So now it's not as complex, but

863
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: it is. Right, she's fourteen, So I'm like, what you doing?

864
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: Why you gotta go to the park and meet Sophie?

865
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: Who else there was? So Sophie, maybe I'll just walk

866
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: the park while you were sewing to me Sophie exactly right,

867
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: So it changes that dynam too.

868
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: Yes, she's like, Mom, exactly, I'm like, I knew to this. Okay, listen,

869
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 1: yes I was born tonight, but not last night.

870
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: Exactly.

871
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: That is funny. You have climbed the latter in your

872
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: phenomenal mother. At what point did you realize that this

873
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: story needed to be shared and did you have any

874
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: apprehensions knowing that you have children that have access to

875
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: books or the internet, or have you shared your story

876
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: with them as well?

877
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: Yes, so I've shared my story with them. And so

878
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: the one piece is I shared my story twenty years

879
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: ago when I rained because it was my platform.

880
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: Yes.

881
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: The difference is there wasn't social media, and so whatever

882
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: I shared in the community, whenever I would have speaking engagements,

883
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: it stayed there. It didn't follow me into corporate America.

884
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: Now it does. But I will tell you that has

885
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: unlocked so much more for me. That's amazing professionally. Yeah,

886
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: even today as people try to recruit me, they will say,

887
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: we have so many people that have resumes an experience

888
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: like you do, and I don't even know if you're

889
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: in the market, but we don't have leaders like you.

890
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: Come on.

891
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: So that has become my competitive mode. Yeah, that has

892
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: become my superpower. And so I tell people you have

893
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: to embrace your scars because they can unlock your superpower.

894
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just don't know what they are unless you

895
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: unlock it.

896
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: Yes, that's good, and so for me, I have embraced it.

897
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, she gave me a So for me, I've embraced it.

898
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: And so write my children know, and I even take

899
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: then when I go speaking. I spoke at the State

900
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: Farm Arena for the Atlanta Hawks a couple of weeks ago.

901
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: I took my daughter and some of her friends so

902
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: they could see. It was interesting. Afterwards, she said, Mom,

903
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 2: did you know such and such didn't know you had

904
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: aunt fourteen? And I was like, you didn't tell her

905
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: before I went on that stage. You supposed to be

906
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: brief in the group. So there is that element. But

907
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: now I'm very open because I don't want them to

908
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: also be naive to what's out in this world. And

909
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: I think sometimes as communities we try and hide some

910
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: of our obstacles and challenges, thinking I don't want someone

911
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: to frown on me, or I don't want someone to

912
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: think it's okay. But you're not saving them exactly. You

913
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: could be helping them by sharing your knowledge, for sure,

914
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: And so so often we're quick to share, like, let

915
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: me tell you this cornbread recipe, girl, right, oh, let

916
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 2: me tell you how grandma did this. But why can't

917
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: I learn about Grandma's challenges? So I don't make the

918
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 2: same yes decisions. Yeah yeah, And so I'm very open

919
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: with them even with the book. I've let them see

920
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: different things. Right, Hey, I'm thinking about this cover, this cover,

921
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: how do you like it? And so I posted the

922
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: cover on Instagram and I saw that my eighteen year

923
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 2: old reposted it and he said this is a woman

924
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: that does everything. And so that just melted my heart

925
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: because I'm like, oh, he's embracing us.

926
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: Yes, I love that. In this process writing in a book,

927
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of authors and they say

928
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: that it's somewhat therapist. Yes, how was this process for you?

929
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: And was there an emotional moment that you had as

930
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: you're writing, Because you're honestly reliving these moments as you're writing,

931
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: it tell us about that.

932
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: Yes, so writing is definitely a therapeutic. I think I

933
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: had a little bit of a different writing journey than

934
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: most people because I do the speaking engagements. I'm always

935
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: tailoring my speech to the audience, so I'm pulling a

936
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: different part of my story. Yeah, so in essence, I'm

937
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 2: outlining a speech which is a chapter of my story.

938
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: And so I had all these different kind of threads

939
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: to pull together. And then it was just a matter

940
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: of Okay, how do I organize it? How do I

941
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: lean in? But I'll tell you when I first did

942
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: my book, it was rejected from publishers over and over again,

943
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: and they said, you have a great story, but you're

944
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: writing it like you're writing for Wall Street. It's a

945
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: press release, and no fault of your own, that's what

946
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,479
Speaker 2: you're trained to do. You're very good at it. You're doing

947
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: it for Fortune one company. But it can't be a

948
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: press release. You have to put emotion to.

949
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: It and here we go and so here we go.

950
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that's when the unlock came, and that's

951
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: when the heaviness of the therapeutic piece came, where sometimes

952
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 2: I would sit and write and I'm like, I got

953
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: a headache and I don't get headaches. And I realized

954
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: it was the weight of the book. It was the

955
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: weight of the experiences. And even when I would resubmit,

956
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 2: I would still get it rejected. So I really had

957
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: to dig deep and open. And what the publisher said was, Tiffany,

958
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: your story is going to help so many people. Don't

959
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: hold back. You're going to write this book one time, yea.

960
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: So if you're going to write it, write it. And

961
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: so that has really helped me open up what my

962
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: experience has been, because I think people will go through

963
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: and there's going to be so many things that they

964
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: say that to me, And at the end, it's like,

965
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm almos going to want to count who got to twelve,

966
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: who got to fifteen, who got to twenty? Right where

967
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: you see those little contests on social media to check

968
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 2: if you've been to Texas, the Pennsylvania, right, that's what's

969
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: going to be how many times did you say that's me. Yes,

970
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: but I realized it's a better product.

971
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

972
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: And this book, me sharing my journey is going to

973
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: be a blueprint for someone going through their challenges and

974
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 2: struggles today.

975
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: M hmm for sure. Speaking of that someone who's listening

976
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: or someone who may read your book, Yes, if they

977
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: feel like they are still in the middle of their struggle,

978
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: what advice would you give them today.

979
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: If you're in the middle of your struggle, I would.

980
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: Of course, you have to own your narrative. Come on, right,

981
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: because if you don't own your narrative, someone else is

982
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: going to own it for you.

983
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

984
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: And in addition to owning your narrative, you have to

985
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: understand that it is then a blueprint for someone else.

986
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: Someone else is on a chapter a journey which you

987
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: think yours is tough, theirs may be tougher. And so

988
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: you owning it, you being vocal and you being authentic

989
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: to what you're going through, is going to help someone

990
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: else and pull them out of their struggle. So own

991
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: your narrative and own it authentically.

992
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: That's beautiful to me. Thank you so good. So this

993
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: season on, keep it positive, sweetie. We are leaning more

994
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: into the theme unapologetic. Yes, so I want to know,

995
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: how is Tiffany unapologetically owning her narrative on today?

996
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: How is Tiffany unapologetically owning her narrative? Okay, so I

997
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: didn't know this question was gonna come, but there was

998
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: something I wanted to say.

999
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: So this is per alignment.

1000
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: So when I did my first commencement speech, I introduced

1001
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 2: myself after someone came up and they said my bio

1002
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: and everything. And I even came to the stage and

1003
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: I said, you know, Dean such and such did a

1004
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: great job introducing me. But as a famous poet named

1005
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: Jay Z once said, allow me to reintroduce myself. My

1006
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: name is Tiffany Willis and I'm a ninth grade dropout. Wow,

1007
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: And that has really been me owning my narrative. And

1008
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: in that speech I talked about how I wanted to

1009
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: one day write a book and I wanted it to

1010
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: be on the Oprah Book Club. I talked about how

1011
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: one day I wanted to be the female version of

1012
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: the Pursuit of Happiness and have a movie based off

1013
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: my life. And I talked about becoming a CEO. And

1014
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: this was years ago. And so to everyone, I want

1015
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: to say when you embrace your narrative and you live unapologetically.

1016
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: Opra ain't pick our book yet, but we at least

1017
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: have a book for her to consider. Yes, and we

1018
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: don't have a movie based off of our life yet yet.

1019
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, Tyler Perry Crystal could play me

1020
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: as the adult Tiffany.

1021
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: So yes, yeah, we.

1022
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: Just gonna put it out.

1023
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna figure it out.

1024
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: So living unapologetically is seeing what you want that can

1025
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 2: be so far fetched that people almost look at you

1026
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: and think your dreams are crazy. And I always say,

1027
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 2: if I say something and you don't think it's crazy,

1028
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm not dreaming big enough.

1029
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: That's it. That is so good.

1030
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: And so that's what living unapologetically is.

1031
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: I love that. That might be my favorite answer yet.

1032
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: Oh that's so good. In closing, we are going to

1033
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: do what we call positive outcomes. That's where our listeners

1034
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: right into us and ask us a question and we

1035
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: give them advice. Okay, you're ready, I'm ready. All right.

1036
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: So this week we have Haley Brown from Dallas, Texas.

1037
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: She says, Hey, Haley, she says, I graduate soon and

1038
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: I'll be the first of my family. I've learned a

1039
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: few interviews and look forward to the next chapter. Even

1040
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: with all the goals met, I sometimes feel it isn't enough.

1041
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: How do I stop feeling like? How do you stop

1042
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: feeling like you have something to prove? Yeah?

1043
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: So I'll just say, like Haley, throughout my whole journey,

1044
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: there's still moments where I feel like I'm not enough.

1045
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 2: I don't feel like you ever arrive and you feel

1046
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: like you're enough. Yeah, But the trick is perspective, which

1047
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 2: is you still put one foot in front of the other.

1048
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: You still make progress, because you'll never arrive if you

1049
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: don't make progress. So I think for Haley, it's just

1050
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: about just keep pushing forward. And Haley, depending on what

1051
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 2: your major is, look me up. Maybe I can get

1052
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: you an internship or a job. Hailey.

1053
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing, Haley. I would tell you, I'm not

1054
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: sure if there's ever a point where you don't feel

1055
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: like you have something to prove. I feel like you're

1056
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: constantly evolving and you have that chip on your shoulder,

1057
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: which I feel like I keep it on my shoulder,

1058
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: or like every level I'll get to like I've got

1059
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: to prove if I'm not proven it to myself or

1060
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: to someone else, I'm still proven it to myself. Yes,

1061
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: So I feel like at some point if I'm getting

1062
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: to a place of complacency or I'm leveling out, then

1063
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: I'm losing that edge. So I always like to feel

1064
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: like I'm continually evolving, and I always want to prove

1065
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: something to myself that I can be better and do better.

1066
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: So I don't think feeling like you have something to

1067
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: prove is a bad place, depending on your perspective. Yes,

1068
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: we talk about the perspective. If it's like I need

1069
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: to make everybody like me, I need to prove to

1070
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: them that I'm worthy, that's a different thing. But proven

1071
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: to yourself that you can do with proven to yourself

1072
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: that you can be better, because we can all be

1073
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: better in different areas. I don't think there's anything wrong

1074
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: with that.

1075
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in essence. When everyone goes to give a speech,

1076
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 2: they all have butterflies, yes, right, And if you don't

1077
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 2: have butterflies, then somewhere somehow you probably did not prepare

1078
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: or you're not taking it seriously.

1079
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, because you.

1080
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 2: Never really feel like you have arrived. You're still trying.

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Speaker 1: To do your best right exactly. Love that Tiffany I've

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Speaker 1: totally enjoyed our time. This has been amazing. Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Tell us where we can get your book all the

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Speaker 1: information we want to support you, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: It's book club, but we do have Crystal's book Club

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Speaker 1: unofficially and there we all read together, so we got jesus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you can find the book on Amazon. It's

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Speaker 2: own your narrative. You can also follow me on Instagram,

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Speaker 2: which is at Tiffany Willis at Underscore Tiffany Willis. I'm

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Speaker 2: still getting used to my Instagram, so at Underscore Tiffany

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Speaker 2: Willis as well as you can find all kinds of

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Speaker 2: information about me at Tiffany hyphen Willis dot com. And

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Speaker 2: I would love to be supportive to your community. The

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Speaker 2: sweetie swarm, you know, like fiancee has to be hot.

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Speaker 2: This is way the sweety swarm. So I would love

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Speaker 2: to be able to pour into the sweety.

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Speaker 1: Swarm as much as I can no appreciate it. We're

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Speaker 1: definitely gonna swarm around you and get your book and

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Speaker 1: make it a number one best selling. We're excited to

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Speaker 1: support you and champion you and everything that you have

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Speaker 1: going on, So make sure you guys follow her, stay

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Speaker 1: up to date on all the things Tiffany has going on,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be sure to support you. And thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for stopping by. Thank you for having me

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Speaker 1: of course, all right, guys, we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: While you know, what stays with me from this conversation

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Speaker 1: is the reminder that our stories don't become powerful when

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Speaker 1: they're perfect. They become powerful when we choose to own them. Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you so much for your honesty,

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Speaker 1: your strength and showing us their resilience isn't about having

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Speaker 1: it all figured out. It's about continuing to rise even

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Speaker 1: when life tries to define you. Because sometimes growth looks

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Speaker 1: like we're writing the narrative were giving and choosing to

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Speaker 1: walk in it with confidence and clarity and grace. Thank

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Speaker 1: you guys so much for tuning in to another episode

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Speaker 1: of The Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. Don't forget to

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Speaker 1: download the season eleven Kids Reflection Guide at Chris Ordehesel

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Speaker 1: dot com. Be sure to subscribe and share this episode

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Speaker 1: with someone who needs it. And if you ever need

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Speaker 1: some advice, positivity, or just want to share what you're

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Speaker 1: going through, email us at Keep It Positive Outcomes at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. As always, stay blessed, say encouraged and

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Speaker 1: keep it positive. Sweetie. I love you guys until next time.