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Speaker 2: Which you know, quite frankly, really had a lot of

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Speaker 2: It's been awesome. So pretty fired up about it.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, the opportunity to work here, work with Liam. I'm

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Speaker 2: Why do you want to work you know, I think

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Speaker 3: Both Northeast guys, you know, but we've known each other

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Speaker 2: I'm really really fired up about that. What's your vision

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Speaker 3: Of just in terms of yeah, I think the most

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Speaker 2: What does that mean? All right?

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Speaker 3: That means that you got guys who take pride and

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's another person in the world who

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Speaker 3: get all blocks. And that is something that's going to

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Speaker 3: Your passion to not stay blocked is really what makes

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Speaker 2: What really creates a great defense.

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Speaker 3: We want guys that are gonna play with their shoulder square,

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Speaker 3: Those are tenants of a great defense, you know. Those

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Speaker 3: you know, when I watched that on the tape, when

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Speaker 3: I see great effort, great strain, you know, and meeting

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Speaker 3: You know, they're in here honestly, they're in here early

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Speaker 1: Who I'm pursuing the past rushers, cornerback, sure.

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Speaker 1: Berkin's a great band last year. What was it about

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Speaker 1: It stuff through the off season. Is it bringing in

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Speaker 2: What is it? That's a great question.

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Speaker 2: Individuals got to be that way.

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Speaker 3: Everything you want to go through with a fine toothed

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Speaker 3: We're all just kind of like swintering in there and

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Speaker 3: It's got to be done with detail and everything that

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Speaker 3: we do individually with these guys every you know, look, we.

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Speaker 3: You're watching those every day trying to pick up little

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, every coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you have to be flexible. I think

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean some of those guys I've learned

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Speaker 1: So you've worked with a variety of different coaches and defenses.

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Speaker 1: How challenging is it for you to run the defense

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's that challenging.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think what we want to do. Part

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Speaker 3: this defense to be. It's it's a pretty good match.

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Speaker 3: It's a pretty good fit. I feel like a lot

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Speaker 3: I feel like we got some really good pieces in

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Speaker 1: Prepped, So you were looking primarily at Jackson those offense.

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Speaker 1: So did you want things about the defense that you

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Speaker 2: Them this year? Say that again. I'm sorry, I just

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Speaker 1: During the regular season matchup, primarily you look at a

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Speaker 1: Jackson those offense. Yes, you learn stuff about the defense

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Speaker 3: No, I think you know really in the preparation for

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Speaker 3: I learned a lot about some of the personnel on offense.

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Speaker 3: That excited me too, and the otherest with you because

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Speaker 2: Thanks. Thanks,