WEBVTT - 205: All Roads Lead To Fitz

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<v Speaker 1>Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with Iheartradiots in Katie.

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<v Speaker 2>What is on your shirt?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, man, I have a shirt. I'm obsessed with great

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<v Speaker 1>white sharks. If people know me, I'm obsessed with sharks.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have this T shirt that says let them

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<v Speaker 1>Be and it has like four different photos of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>extremely sort of majestic looking great white sharks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. By the way, when Gharmu and I send videos

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<v Speaker 2>to each other, which we do all the time, he's

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<v Speaker 2>usually standing underneath a great white shark that's hanging from

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<v Speaker 2>your ceiling in your house, and you're always like, oh no.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's like a yeah, it's a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>eleven x fourteen, like like a model of a great

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<v Speaker 1>white shark. Yeah, that we hung to my ceiling.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you like these animals? These convincement.

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<v Speaker 1>I am fascinated by them, and I'm terrified of them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I can barely go in the ocean because

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<v Speaker 1>I think of sharks. But at the same time, I

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<v Speaker 1>have this huge respect for them because they're so they're

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<v Speaker 1>so unpredictable and they could just that's their world, the ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>And we sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of they since the dinosaurs. Oh yeah, yeah, Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>what fucking blows my mind. It's like when I'm reading

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<v Speaker 2>Albi's fucking dinosaur books at bedtime before he goes to sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like the Jurassic Age and this age and whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, sixty five million years ago, sharks were their people.

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<v Speaker 1>Sharks were motherfucking there. Yeah, there's some sharks in the oceans,

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<v Speaker 1>like in Africa, I know in certain spots, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Lupe Island in Mexico where they've spotted extremely

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<v Speaker 1>like ridiculous, lessly large sharks. Like there's some sharks in

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean we don't even know about that are just

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<v Speaker 1>of massive proportions.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been to the Museum of Natural History

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<v Speaker 2>downtown La.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, we need to move.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to go down there because in a huge

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<v Speaker 2>case a live one infamaldehyde, they have a a megamouth,

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<v Speaker 2>a megamouth shark. Yeah, the most disgusting thing I have

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen in my life. My children screamed. I almost

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<v Speaker 2>asked for my money back. My children can't unsee that creature.

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<v Speaker 2>It was absolutely horrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the full shark? Is it just a mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>In a case, the mouth is open and it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm never say it like it just everyone google

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<v Speaker 2>megamouth shark and it's horrifying and carcareous.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the scientific name of a great white shark.

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<v Speaker 2>You are adorable.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's gonna be my next tattoo. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to get that written on my on the left side

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<v Speaker 1>of my chest.

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<v Speaker 2>Carcarrion Cardarius Kim Kardashian, What Kardashian you've shot in South

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<v Speaker 2>Africa before?

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<v Speaker 1>I have?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is a place where you can go in

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<v Speaker 2>a cage and swim with great white sharks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I tried to go and production would not. I

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<v Speaker 1>was stupid enough to mention it to one of the

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<v Speaker 1>producers and they said, hell no, and they would not

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<v Speaker 1>allow me to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Germo, I honestly think you might have had a heart attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's pretty scary, like not only because a it's

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely horrifying, but b because you know so much about them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been such a huge part of your life. It's

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<v Speaker 2>similar to you meeting Madonna on Ellen, where you like

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<v Speaker 2>had a heart attack.

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I did. I almost slipped and fell on

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<v Speaker 1>my ass. I bowed down to her. I showed her

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<v Speaker 1>my tattoo of her. I was just a bumbling mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have to get into this episode. But wait,

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<v Speaker 2>I love them. We're making I'm making a cross connection

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<v Speaker 2>between Great White Charts and Madonna. But garyma Diez is

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with Madonna, I believe. I remember I realized it

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<v Speaker 2>when you went on a talk show during Scandal and

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<v Speaker 2>the whoever's was the host was like, I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 2>every single Madonna record down, and you need to put

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<v Speaker 2>them in order of when they came out, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>it was like watching like a mad genius scientist at work.

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<v Speaker 2>You lined them up in under twenty seconds, like this

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<v Speaker 2>was an eighty two, this one, eighty three, eighty four,

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five, eighty six and a half eighty nine, and

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<v Speaker 2>like I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, and Katie, I still have all the

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<v Speaker 1>because they were photos like eight x ten and they

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<v Speaker 1>gave them to me at the end of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I have them right here, like they're right in front

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<v Speaker 1>of me over there, like I still have them.

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<v Speaker 2>What show was it?

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<v Speaker 1>It was Access Hollywood? Remember, Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Wait, tell the story when Porscha comes to

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<v Speaker 2>work and knows that Madonna's going to be a guest

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<v Speaker 2>on Ellen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Yes, what happened before that, Ellen had had you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Scandal cast, and she'd had me on by myself

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. Yes, And so I've talked a ton

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<v Speaker 1>about Madonna to Ellen. I showed Ellen my Madonna tattoo.

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<v Speaker 1>She on one of the episodes that I did of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ellen Show. Ellen gave me an Ellen tattoo and

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<v Speaker 1>they put it on me. It was so funny that

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<v Speaker 1>looked like the Madonna tattoo. So anyway, so Ellen knew

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<v Speaker 1>I had I had this obsession with Madonna. So cut

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<v Speaker 1>to Porsche being on Scandal. Now she I believe She

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned saying, hey, Ellen is going to have Madonna on

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<v Speaker 1>and she wants she's going to bring you on as

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<v Speaker 1>a guest DJ when she comes on, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like what you know? I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>is this real? And then it happened. Ellen Ellen Show

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<v Speaker 1>called me and they were like, we wouldn't want you

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<v Speaker 1>to be the guest DJ, and Madonna is our guest

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<v Speaker 1>and Ellen brought me but also the kicker. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to the Ellen Show and you're in your dressing room,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they they brought me in early. They

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<v Speaker 1>brought me in like noon, and we were taping at

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<v Speaker 1>like four, and I was like, why are they bringing

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<v Speaker 1>me in so early? And then Ellen comes to my room, Ellen,

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<v Speaker 1>not her producers, Ellen, and she's like, come on, come downstairs,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go watch Madonna rehearse with no one in

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<v Speaker 1>the audience. So Ellen brought me down and sat me

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<v Speaker 1>in the audience, me, Ellen and Ellen's mother No and

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<v Speaker 1>she rehearsed the song twice. It was living for Love

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<v Speaker 1>and it was crazy. I'm so grateful to Ellen.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I remember it. I remember it. They called

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<v Speaker 2>you up on stage when she was a guest and

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<v Speaker 2>you got down on your knees and you held her

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<v Speaker 2>hand like she was the motherfucking queen of England. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>bow to the altar. That is Madonna.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember looking up at her and she had

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<v Speaker 1>this look on her face like Yep, that's exactly right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you should be doing, which made me love

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<v Speaker 1>her even more. She was just illuminating this white light.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I love you anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking today about episode two O five, called All

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<v Speaker 2>Roads Lead to Fits, which aired on November eighth of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve and was written by Ramaala Mohammed.

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<v Speaker 1>H We Love Her And it was directed by Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Robin and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was guest starring Tom Amandy's as Samuel Restin, Brenda Strong

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<v Speaker 2>as Joan Reston, Audrey Wazuluski as Alison Becker.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have Colin Douglas as Steve Dougherty, and Mina

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<v Speaker 1>Baddie as assistant US Attorney Jane.

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<v Speaker 2>Powell quick ass synopsis to jog y'all's memories about episode

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<v Speaker 2>two O five and all the scandalicious deliciousness that happened

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<v Speaker 2>during this episode. We have Hollis Doyle hosts a private

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<v Speaker 2>meeting with Verna Thornton, Cyrus, Bean, Melli, Grant, Olivia Pope

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<v Speaker 2>about how David Rosen is looking too much into defiance.

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<v Speaker 2>Verna arranges for David to get his job back on

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<v Speaker 2>one condition he stopped his obsession into Olivia popeen Citron.

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<v Speaker 1>After Governor Samuel Resling kills a contractor who is raping

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<v Speaker 1>his wife Joan, he contacts Olivia Pope for help. Although

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<v Speaker 1>things are not as simple as they.

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<v Speaker 2>Seem at the White House. Cyrus's husband James, decides to

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<v Speaker 2>return to work as a political journalist. He causes trouble

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<v Speaker 2>for Cyrus when he prizes for answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile contempts to have a normal date with Becky asking

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<v Speaker 1>Harrison for help.

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<v Speaker 2>That was just a nice back and forth. I fucking

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<v Speaker 2>love this episode me too, the twists and the turns.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's written by the incredible Ramla Mohammed, who was

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<v Speaker 2>like a baby I think she was like a researcher

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<v Speaker 2>on Grays or something. Wow, she was a researcher on Grays,

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<v Speaker 2>then became a baby writer into a big dog writer

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<v Speaker 2>on Scandal, and now she just wrote Unreasonable Doubt, which

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<v Speaker 2>aired on Hulu and Carrie Washington directed and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the executive produced it, and it is fucking fire.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so good. I remember Ramala being coming on

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<v Speaker 1>set because you know, the writers of that particular episode

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<v Speaker 1>would come on set in case the director or the

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<v Speaker 1>actors had questions or something needs to get rewritten. But

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<v Speaker 1>Ramala was always such a she was just like us,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like just like us. We

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<v Speaker 1>fucking joked around with her and it was just such

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<v Speaker 1>a good freaking time.

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<v Speaker 2>Like sometimes there were writers that would come on that

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<v Speaker 2>were you know, older and more senior and like they'd

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<v Speaker 2>been on a million shows and we felt like sort

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<v Speaker 2>of kids to them, but like Ramala felt like we did, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she felt like such a kid, and we like who

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<v Speaker 2>were dating and like and all that shit. Yes, Now, Also,

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<v Speaker 2>what's different about Scandal and why the writers are so

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<v Speaker 2>important to us and why we got to know them

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<v Speaker 2>so well? I think on other shows and correct me

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm wrong. Most of the time, the showrunners a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times are on the set. Shanna doesn't come

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<v Speaker 2>to set. She stays in the writer's room. And what

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<v Speaker 2>she does is every single episode, she assigns a writer

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<v Speaker 2>to stay on set, and so our writers who would

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<v Speaker 2>be on set with us, we would be with them

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<v Speaker 2>for a billion hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for the duration of the shooting of that episode,

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<v Speaker 1>which was what like eight days, ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Days, eight or nine days sometimes ten when shit was long.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Ramla was with us all seven years, so

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, yeah, she feels totally like one of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, But also if someone has an issue with a

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<v Speaker 1>line or does it want to say something or change something,

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<v Speaker 1>that writer has to think on the fly there and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, okay, well what about this, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? And they have to think of something. Aren't

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<v Speaker 1>like they're and not having that time to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>prepare and think about what the line is gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's get into this episode. There are so many

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<v Speaker 2>things I love about this, but we need to really

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this whole date situation. Where do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to start.

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<v Speaker 1>We could do the open that opening scene with with a.

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<v Speaker 2>College calls the whole meeting and says that you have

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<v Speaker 2>a David Rosen problem, and like these are just the

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<v Speaker 2>group of goonies, like this whole season two of this

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<v Speaker 2>fucking round table of the Loves, because they're all goons,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they're all just like Hollis, Verna, Cyrus and Olivia.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just sitting around a fucking table and literally playing

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<v Speaker 2>America like a puppet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, I remember watching these scenes and feeling like

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<v Speaker 1>such a voyeur, right because you couldn't believe what was

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<v Speaker 1>being said, Like these were all the leads of the

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<v Speaker 1>show admitting that they were in on a I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a crime. Would you call it a crime? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they stole the election treason treason, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the crime of the highest degree, taking away

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<v Speaker 2>every single person's fucking vote and say of who's the

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<v Speaker 2>leader of the free world? Yeah, no, bueno, not.

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<v Speaker 1>Golly, and you could get away with you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>Mellie and Cyrus and Hollis Doyle of course. But when

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia walks in that room, it's like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>she's part of it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, she's part of it too. And she says that

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<v Speaker 2>she will fix the David Rosen problem, yes, which equals

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<v Speaker 2>into that they call David in and they're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to give you your job back. You can

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<v Speaker 2>stop being a worthless bum. And the only way you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have your job back is if you drop this hole.

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<v Speaker 2>All your Shenanigans looking into Quinn Perkins.

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<v Speaker 1>Just stop, That's right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I wrote Susie asking out Huck, she's the cutest,

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<v Speaker 2>writes her.

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<v Speaker 1>Number on his head. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And this is where we like Susie poorfar if

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<v Speaker 2>there was ever an actress that just nails a fucking roll, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and just the two of you together being so awkward

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<v Speaker 2>and comfortable and cute.

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<v Speaker 1>And I noticed watching the episode she has this cadence

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<v Speaker 1>yes to her speaking, which I love so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it also it sort of speaks to her

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<v Speaker 1>theater background, because yes, she like creates a character. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>she's so fucking good and oh my.

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<v Speaker 2>God, and then we get rest In go to rest In,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the storyline of this episode. And I really

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<v Speaker 2>do want to have Tom on this podcast. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>dear friend, and I think his work on this show

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<v Speaker 2>is so stellar because he's so horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, he's so good, and he's you tell

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<v Speaker 1>us about he's part of your theater company.

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<v Speaker 2>I am a right, Yeah, he's part of I am

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<v Speaker 2>a theater company and I and he's a dear, dear

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<v Speaker 2>friend and he's We've put him in a ton of

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<v Speaker 2>IAmA plays because he's a fucking genius and he can

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<v Speaker 2>play piano and he can play guitar, and he's an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing actor and he's an artist and he's a great

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<v Speaker 2>dad and he's just like such an actor. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's done it his whole life and it's what he does.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Like cut to fun fact of this episode speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of that he's been doing this forever, is that he

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<v Speaker 2>and Brenda Strong, who plays Governor Restin's wife in this

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<v Speaker 2>they starred in ever Wood together, which yes, because Tom

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<v Speaker 2>and Mandy's like big role I feel like was he

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<v Speaker 2>was the dad on Everwood with Sarah Drew which I

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<v Speaker 2>never watched, has either huge following, and he lived in

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<v Speaker 2>Utah for like six years shooting that show. But Tom

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<v Speaker 2>is so great and the main storyline to just like

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<v Speaker 2>remind y'all what happened in this episode is his wife.

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<v Speaker 2>This fucking contractor's on top of his wife. She calls rape,

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a gun, he shoots him dead, and we

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<v Speaker 2>come to learn in so many twists and turns that

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<v Speaker 2>she was not being raped.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been having motherfucker's.

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<v Speaker 2>Hair and follicles and pubes are all over the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. I think the hard thing for that character must

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<v Speaker 1>have been the fact that she was fucking this dude

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<v Speaker 1>with a really good head of hair. Because I love Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>but he you know, his hair is a little bit receiding.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still a very good looking man, but he don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Very good looking, very tall, very triangular.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, but she's fucking around behind his back

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<v Speaker 1>with this dude that has long, like luxurious hair. That

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<v Speaker 1>would have pissed me off more than anything anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And that hair is found all over the house

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<v Speaker 2>when we're working the case. When we're working work in

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<v Speaker 2>that case, they find hair in the bed, hair in

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<v Speaker 2>the drain, hair in the shower because they were stripping

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<v Speaker 2>all over the house.

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<v Speaker 1>It was always a long hair, though I wish one

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<v Speaker 1>of them would have been a short and curly like that.

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<v Speaker 1>She would have found a little pube somewhere and be.

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<v Speaker 2>Like why did they not go there?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, listen, Fitz could eat out Olivia on TV. But

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<v Speaker 1>showing a pubic hair is too much not allowed.

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<v Speaker 2>Standards and practices is the thing that everything has to

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<v Speaker 2>get by on a network show, and so it's basically

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<v Speaker 2>like the people that come in and watch something and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, Nope, that can't be on national broadcast. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not allowed. So maybe a pube is no, not allowed

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<v Speaker 2>too much? I mean in our case, when you do

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<v Speaker 2>a sex scene, the minute there's a thrust, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>cut not allowed, no thrusting, no simulation of sex. No no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Really Katie, Oh, I didn't realize that, but yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, although.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there was a scene in Scandal, where

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<v Speaker 2>have we seen it already where like Tony takes off

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<v Speaker 2>his shirt, does somebody thrust and kind of thrust a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit? Like Olivia is laying on the bed and

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<v Speaker 2>her knees.

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<v Speaker 1>Are up oh yeah, did he do a little thrust?

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<v Speaker 2>And he kinda maybe when we get there. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think we've seen that episode yet, but I can't wait,

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone else should get excited as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll look out for that thrust. We'll be right back, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, then oh, then we realize rest in ten tell

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<v Speaker 2>me tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry to interrupt you, but I was just gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, Tom amends am I saying his name right, Amendys.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, Amandy's, Amandy's But they don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>For those people who are a fan of the movie

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<v Speaker 1>Broke Down Palace with Clare Danes and Kate Beckinsale, which

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<v Speaker 1>is one of my favorite fucking movies. Tom A Mendyes

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<v Speaker 1>plays Kate Beckinsale's dad, what oh yeah, oh, and he

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<v Speaker 1>has all these powerful scenes in that movie. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys haven't seen Broke Down Palace, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>see it, especially because tom A Mendy's is in it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What a gift you just gave me. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>You're wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we got Cyrus is shocked that James is back

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<v Speaker 2>working as a journalist, and Rosen tells Abby that they

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<v Speaker 2>offered him his job back and that he's not taking it,

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<v Speaker 2>and Abby's like, that's so dumb. We're looking for the rapist.

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<v Speaker 2>Olivia comes in and says, you're having an affair. She

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<v Speaker 2>cried rape and it's bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo. What tell me that scene where Olivia walks in

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like this is bullshit? And then Joan Reston

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<v Speaker 1>is just like crying and you know, breaking down. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, girl, listen, not for nothing, but where was

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<v Speaker 1>the tearstick at because those were the driest. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the driest crying I'd ever seen. But then I thought, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it wasn't her, Maybe this was all planned. Is

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<v Speaker 1>she a brilliant actress? Because she's really you know, she's

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<v Speaker 1>putting on a show where she feels terrible about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but she also wanted to be fucking around with this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe she didn't have tears. Maybe the character didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have tears to get Oh you know, so I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant actress? Or does she need a tearstick? Real bad?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it an actress choice? Or you just dried up

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<v Speaker 2>and intimidated to ask for the stick?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Girl, you need that tiar stick?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what makes me feel better about the tearstick

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not gonna lie now that it's out in

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<v Speaker 2>public and everyone knows that I'm a hack of an

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<v Speaker 2>actor and I use the mental.

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<v Speaker 1>Hear shit, shut up, we all use that show.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just listening to a podcast that Alison Janny

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<v Speaker 2>was a guest, and Alison fucking Janny, who's won every

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<v Speaker 2>acting award there is to win for comedy and dramas,

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<v Speaker 2>also calls for a tearstick.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, So let me just be the one to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that I am as talented, if not more.

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<v Speaker 1>Than Alice Right, than Alison Janney. We put ourselves in

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<v Speaker 1>the same league as Alison Janney, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>She is a fucking genius.

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<v Speaker 1>But Brenda Strong, Brenda Strong is a is a wonderful actress.

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<v Speaker 1>She you know, I love my horror movies. She was

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<v Speaker 1>in a movie called Red Dragon. She plays a dinner

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<v Speaker 1>guest where Anthony Hopkins character the cannibal, the hannibal lecter

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<v Speaker 1>y has a dinner party but it's all body parts

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody knows what the food is. But anyway, Brenda

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<v Speaker 1>Strong is in that scene and she's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>Lin is Red Dragon a movie connected to Hannibal Lecter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's the prequel to Silence of the Lambs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good lord? How do you keep this shit all straight?

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<v Speaker 2>Horror films have so many Jason thirty seven hundred point five.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are we doing this still? Because they make money?

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<v Speaker 1>That? Yes? Yes? And she was also Katie. She was

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<v Speaker 1>in the Craft. Have you ever seen the Craft?

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<v Speaker 2>I have and I loved it. Who did she play?

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<v Speaker 1>She plays the doctor that's taking off all the dead

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<v Speaker 1>skin from Nev Campbell's back after the girls do that

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<v Speaker 1>spell on themselves so they can have like nice booties

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<v Speaker 1>and like be all cool and shit. And Nev Campbell's

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<v Speaker 1>like it couldn't work, you know, she's had these burns

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<v Speaker 1>on her back or whatever. And Brenda Strung plays the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor who's peeling off all the dead skin, revealing this beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>like luxurious like skin back that Nev Campbell has. Now, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>she was now amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Where is Nev Campbell?

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<v Speaker 1>Nowhere? Nep Campbell. She's doing Scream forty two, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing. She's doing another damn scream movie. O.

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<v Speaker 2>See, there we have it again, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>And Katie, one more thing real quick. She was the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of Mary Alice Young in Desperate Housewives. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she was the iconic voice that is the catalyst to

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<v Speaker 1>the Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>She was the voice of the entire thing. Wait, speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of another fun fact, jumping ahead, but whatever, Anna Mantika

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<v Speaker 2>Farmer at Amantika November nine, twenty twelve, tweeted, was that

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<v Speaker 2>Shonda rhyme saying previously on Scandal?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it is now in season two? Yeah, changes and

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<v Speaker 2>it says previously on Scandal and now I think and

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<v Speaker 2>believe until the end of time, every single episode, whenever

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing a recap of the previous episode, it's always

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<v Speaker 2>Shonda's voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, right, Yes, that's funny that that gladiator caught that

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Woh the craziest part about this episode that kills me.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the cutest where to take a woman on

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<v Speaker 2>a date? Huck is like, how do I make a rezie?

0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Harrison is like, you're the greatest hacker in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you make a fucking reservation? Cute?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what was the cutest, Katie? When you wet

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<v Speaker 1>your fingers and pat down Huck's hair? Do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>that that was the cutest?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that scripted? No?

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't, but you were so brilliant. It was such

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<v Speaker 1>a great, great moment you like totally spit you like

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<v Speaker 1>lick your fingers and pat down my hair and makes

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<v Speaker 1>a face like what the fuck? But it was the cutest.

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<v Speaker 2>So so it's my favorite parts of Scandal. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 2>the show was obviously a drama, you know, there were

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<v Speaker 2>so many twists and turns and OMG moments and things.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, my favorite parts of the show were the

0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 2>gladiators doing familial comedy, lighthearted things like that. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>loved shooting that scene where you were in like an

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<v Speaker 2>outfit and Abby's coming with the ties, huh, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>just all as a group, like helping you get ready

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<v Speaker 2>for your date. It's so stinking adorable. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 2>love this episode the most for the specificity of four thousand,

0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:50.600
<v Speaker 2>three hundred and fifty nine votes. Yeah, it just becomes

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<v Speaker 2>like so real in that the race was so close.

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<v Speaker 2>It gives me such PTSD to like Bush Gore Florida

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<v Speaker 2>recount after recount and like, what the fuck happened?

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't even remember that shit, Katie, was that

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<v Speaker 1>a big recount? Shit? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, oh my god, you can watch the movie recount,

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<v Speaker 2>which is on HBO. This like resting thing just reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me so much of like the Bush Gore.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, those numbers are so specific. It reminded me a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of five hundred twenty five thousand, six hundred minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred twenty five thousand, moment five men. We did

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<v Speaker 1>this a million times on the set of Scandal.

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<v Speaker 2>But normally it would be like, I let I want

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<v Speaker 2>to go tonight tonight. Bush won by two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>seventy one electoral votes and Gore had two seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, so.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a one point difference in the election. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>which was why it was such a shit show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Katie, I didn't even remember that.

0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:15.399
<v Speaker 2>But so whenever I watched this episode, I'm like, oh

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:17.920
<v Speaker 2>my god, I think of that, and then I think

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:22.960
<v Speaker 2>about the goon table, the fucking goons who are playing

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:27.479
<v Speaker 2>fits like a puppet. Yeah, and it was such a

0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 2>close close call. But Restin, what we see in this

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 2>episode is how it personally destroyed the man. Yes, because

0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Joan Reston's whole monologue that she has is like her

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 2>whole life changed from the minute he lost by four

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:47.399
<v Speaker 2>three hundred and fifty nine votes every single day of

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 2>her life since that election, and since that loss, she

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 2>hasn't been married to the same man and that's why

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 2>she's fucking the contractor.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, which, if you ask me, is a valid excuse.

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:04.600
<v Speaker 1>And he's fat hair, he's got long hair. Awful, awful,

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 1>We're awful people.

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 2>What else do you remember? Whatever? What else are the

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:09.880
<v Speaker 2>top scenes memories of this episode?

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.800
<v Speaker 1>One of my top scenes is that scene with Melly

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and Cyrus after Melly has a conversation with James, and

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Cyrus is like, Melly, can I talk to you for

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 1>a second, And then he goes on and he has

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:29.199
<v Speaker 1>this amazing, another beautiful monologue by Jeff Perry and it

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 1>was just so freaking good and dark and memorable. And

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 1>what does he say.

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Mellie says, I'm a political animal, but Cyrus says, I

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 2>am a monster.

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:42.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, j And then he kind of walks away and

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>comes back and he's like, hey, but let's do that

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>dinner we talked about.

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.879
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, double date, double date in the fucking residences like

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:54.159
<v Speaker 2>duhlte yes. Edison comes in. He says, I'm going to

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 2>keep trying and trying, but Live is like, I'm not

0:24:57.800 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 2>gonna say yes yet because I'm not ready.

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.399
<v Speaker 1>Can we just say real quick? Edison needs to fucking

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:06.639
<v Speaker 1>kick Rocks man, like, get to step. And I'm so

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:11.199
<v Speaker 1>over Edison. And it wasn't anything against Like the character

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>is a good guy, he's fucking hot as fuck, yes,

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 1>but he just there's no nuance there, there's no drama

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 1>like there is with Fits, right, so I think everybody's

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>just like, eh, just get the fuck out of the way, man, like,

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>keep it moving.

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 2>We don't want her to be with anyone else other

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 2>than Fits, So like, what are we doing?

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.679
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Yes, yes, And I think and Olivia feels that

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>way too. You feel that Olivia feels that way as well.

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 2>He had such a bad Twitter. What did they call him?

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, Senator pudding Pop.

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>You know why, Katie, You know why they call him that?

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Because of because he resembles Bill Cosby.

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 2>That's why. Yes, that was why. And I can't even

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 2>believe I'm bringing up on this podcast. But hey, guys,

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 2>you're welcome. We talk about all the shit here. Oh see,

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 2>look they even put I'm showing you my photos. There's

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 2>all these side by side photos on Twitter of Noel

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Lewis next to Bill Cosby.

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>My god, he looks a lot like him.

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 2>We love him and he's the most talented dude ever.

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:19.360
<v Speaker 2>But for whatever reason, it's not him. It's the way

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 2>they wrote the character. And also, we are living in

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 2>a world where if you go against Olivia Pope, or

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 2>you go against Olivia and fits Olitz, you are hated.

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 2>You are hated with a capital age. I like that

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 2>You're watching the episodes and you're like, get him the

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 2>fuck d get him.

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, girl, what the fuck are you doing? Man,

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>get the fuck kick air acts, Senator Pudding Pop, I.

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Cannot put in pop?

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh Jesus Christ.

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 2>And then Huckin' Suy Poor are on their way to

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 2>a fancy date.

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they go to that restaurant. Which part of me

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>watching this shit, I was like, y'all, are they really

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>that dumb? Are hucking Becky that motherfucking dumb? She's like,

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>what is this? Bill and Bunkers and huck is like,

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I like a ginger ale and also a ginger ale

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>for her. I was like, oh Jesus.

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.359
<v Speaker 2>Christ, Forrest Gump.

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what is happening?

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 2>No, but you have to play into the comedy.

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Of course, of course, But Katie. Then there's that other

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.199
<v Speaker 1>episode where Huck I don't remember which one it was,

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>where he walks up to you and you're at a

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>bar waiting to meet with someone with Katy and Wallace,

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>and Huck is like, she'll take a half finger pore

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 1>of the drink and no alcohol in it and put

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>your hair back and put He's like super savvy, and

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 1>in this scene he's like, I like, Jing Dorel.

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 2>You knew what to do at a restaurant. I don't

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 2>know how to read a maize.

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, It's still so cute.

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 2>But you know, sometimes in television and for the sake

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 2>of the scene and the sake of a joke, don't

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 2>look too close.

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Don't look too closely.

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yet it's not like we're Alison Janny like whatever, we're

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 2>not real actors. No, you are the realist factor. So

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 2>then we figure out after Lvia Pope has done everything

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 2>she can to help rest in which I feel like

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 2>she's helping him and going above and beyond because she

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 2>fucking rided the election and she feels really fucking bad

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 2>about it that she's ruined this entire I mean, not

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>only has she ruined the country, but in this episode again,

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 2>you get the idea that she's personally ruined somebody's life

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 2>and their marriage.

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Well and also responsible for someone's death dying.

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh my god, I forgot that

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 2>that contractor was like a person.

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all that beautiful hair gone, gone forever.

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 2>And possibly pubes.

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>But will can you say pubes on the podcast?

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 2>I think so love a pube. If my gray hair

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 2>right now is like pubes on my head, Oh my god,

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>that's the texture of it. You're welcome, everybody. So then

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 2>she realizes that Restin did know. On his desk, she

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 2>sees all these surveillance photos of his wife having sex

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 2>with the contractor, and we realize that he has sort

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 2>of played her and played this whole situation. Yes, yes,

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 2>and I wrote Olivia got played. And she does the

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 2>next twitch thing, the like little twitch thing she does

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 2>where she oh god, it's so good, oh so good,

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 2>And she got played, and like rest In is gonna

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 2>get out fine, and Joan is going to take the fall.

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, she kind of should, but she

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>was like, let me do this for you, let me

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.719
<v Speaker 2>go to jail, and she does. And then we go

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 2>to Huck and Becky on the date in car, watching

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 2>people and spying.

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Huck realizes that he you know, the restaurant, taking

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Becky to a fancy restaurant that's not him, so we

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>see him now. He takes her to where he goes

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>to watch a family. Creepy as fuck, but that's what

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>he likes to.

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Do, stalking and you should be arrested and have restraining orders.

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and there's kids in that house, God damn it,

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 1>children anyway, but he's doing it lovingly of course, because

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have his family. So he goes and finds

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>family and watches them and knows their whole backstory. And

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>then Becky is just like, oh, she's submitting.

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Waitit, no, wait, does I can't remember this? Does Huck know, like,

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 2>did research on these families and he knows what they

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 2>really are into? Or is this like Huck builds a

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 2>whole fake imagination of what they are and what they do.

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>That's such such a good question, Katie, because I was

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>thinking about that too, and I was going back and forth,

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>but I sort of ended with I think I feel

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 1>like it's Huck, Like he's such a good detective and hacker,

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know what I mean, everything he does that

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>he's found out all these true backstories of and and

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of the schedules of the kids and which friends

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>come over for play dates and when they come over

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and what they like to eat. I feel like he's

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>discovered all of it and figured it all out and

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 1>it's all real. That's sort of the way I looked

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>at it. But I hear what you're saying too. It

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 1>could be that he's just making it all up.

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 2>No, you're right. It's the better acting choice because what's

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 2>coming down the pike is really bad, and it's better

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 2>if you know them as real people.

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>That's true. Yeah, and what you made up.

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>In your head, I think, mm hmm. Okay, So you're

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 2>watching these people and then you kiss without tongue.

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>And also yo without time but real quick in that scene,

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>there's like sandwiches on the dashboard? Is it bad that

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>watching this? I was like, ooh, what type of sandwich

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>was it? How did they leave that much sandwich without

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>eating it?

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Come on, Well, they knew they were going to make out.

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I knew they were going to make out.

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Only time I don't eat that much is if I

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>know you're going to get like if I'm making out,

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 2>like for the first time. That's why the grilled cheese

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 2>scene in season one always bothered me because if someone

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I was just fucking for the first time, I would

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 2>not be eating grilled cheese simultaneously.

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>It ate no dairy anywhere in the picture. You're with

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>some of the first time same.

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Same I mean down the road, yes, yeah, someone I've

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 3>been with who cares, oh yeah, but someone you're having

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 3>sex with for the first time, I am not eating

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 3>simultaneously and definitely not a dairy.

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Product Jesus, because that's just like, oh my god. I remember, Katie.

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>We were all in New York and I was talking

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>with Adam and he said his first date with you,

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>that you guys spent like a whole weekend together or

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>something like a bunch of days together.

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 2>And he slept and he finally farted when.

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>He said when he went out, when he finally left

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>your place and was like on the corner hailing a cab,

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>that it was non stop farting.

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 2>He told me the story after we had like our

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 2>first weekend together, and he said, no, literally, I would

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 2>leave your apartment and it would just be.

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh like that, Oh my.

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 4>God, because I had a studio, so It's not like

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 4>you could go just farted up in the bathroom because

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 4>you could hear it so like it was down a

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 4>hallway or like at a different part of the house

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 4>or a different floor.

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Like my bed was a food in one room, and

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 2>my shower was growing mushrooms.

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Shut the fuck up.

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm not kidding and not fun ones growing disgusting fungus

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 2>mushrooms out of the tiles around the shower, and we

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't care. We still hooked up in there. It was disgusting.

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 2>I was disgusting. I was so broke, but we all.

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.959
<v Speaker 1>Did that shit right, Like, you're not thinking about that stuff.

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I still drive by it. It hasn't

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 2>been demolished. It's still there. It was eight hundred dollars

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 2>a month, which I could afford.

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>How much do you think that apartment is right now?

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Like probably like.

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Two thousand, Yeah, which is ridiculous. It's one room. It's disgusting.

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>The water God was where in the city.

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Was it in Hollywood? It was right by that seven

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 2>eleven on Melrose and Fuller.

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, this was in La This is anything. Yeah, Yeah,

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Kam and.

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 2>I met in La on Melrose and Puller. No, my

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 2>apartment in New York City was also disgusting, but it

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 2>was and it was a six floor walk up, but

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 2>it was really cool. It was like a pre war building,

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 2>brick walls, like, it was like a rent set. We

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 2>will be back with more after the break. Oh my god.

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 2>The end of this episode is such fire. It's one

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 2>of those classic wrap up, you know, the last three

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 2>minutes of Scandal where everything just gets like spun on

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 2>its head and all this kind of shit. And Abby

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 2>goes to see Dave and she knows that it's about

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 2>voting machines, and we see the end. We see that

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Olivia is spying and listening to them, and Olivia says,

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.799
<v Speaker 2>this one I handle alone. And she's listening on that bobblehead.

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, this is where Bobblehead lives. Remember that hashtag bobblehead lives.

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 2>This is where Bobblehead lives was a hashtag on Twitter.

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 2>Did it started this episode? I think so, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>when it came back around.

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe when it came back around, I don't remember, but

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 1>it certainly lived for me in this episode. It's so

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 1>fucking good. It's so shocking. And that Colin Douglas, the

0:34:56.000 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>guy that plays Steve Daugherty, Yes, that he's like dish

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and all that dirt, and Livia is like, I got this,

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll take care of these motherfuckers.

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 2>And now we see that Olivia knows that Abby's kind

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 2>of backs and playing both teams, and we know that

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Abby and David aren't giving up, even though David's not

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be working the Quinn case. And there's like

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 2>that little post it and we see that David was

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 2>supposed to have a meeting.

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and Abby realizes that Huck and Olivia set up

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that fake meeting.

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 2>With someone to tell him about it, to get him

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 2>off the trail, to get him off the set. Yes,

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 2>And then with David and Abby don't know is the

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:36.920
<v Speaker 2>one further step that now Olivia is has them on

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 2>surveillance and is listening to every that is so fucked up.

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 2>It's so shady, Like how are these two women friends?

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Like are you joking? How do you ever come back

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 2>from that? I know, like if a friend of mine

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 2>ever spied on me.

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd be like it's over, It's over, and.

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm calling the fucking police, like yeah, get out of here, Yeah,

0:35:57.760 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 2>what are you kidding?

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>But also let me look at the footage and if

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I look cute, then I won't be that.

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 2>And also what do I sound like what I'm having?

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Do I sound like?

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I was I hot?

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Did you Yes? All of those things? Okay. Fun facts

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 2>about the episode. Despite being named in the title All

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Roads Lead to Fits, Fits isn't even in this fucking episode.

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, He's not in it at all.

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 2>He's not in it.

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Was there any episodes that you weren't in that Quinn

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>is not in?

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I think there's three? Oh really three yes, because when

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 2>you go back to the trail, Oh wait, no, I

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 2>was in the trail. But any episodes that were major

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 2>flashbacks right before Quinn was around, there are some episodes

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:36.359
<v Speaker 2>that I am not in.

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Wow, wasn't that always trippy when we weren't in an episode?

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.399
<v Speaker 1>Because there was like one or two that that Huck

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>was not in. But I was always like, I'm not

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 1>in this episode. I was always so offended at first.

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd always be like boom, and then I would be like,

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:51.879
<v Speaker 2>holy shit, I still get paid.

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, and I got the week off.

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah. Like I just was like, oh my god,

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Like this is the greatest gig that's ever happened. In

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.839
<v Speaker 2>the history of the world. Let's quickly look at some

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 2>scandal tweets at the time, and then we got to

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 2>look at this actual real life scandal of the time.

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 2>You guys, know, what the fuck was going on at

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 2>the time that this episode aired. Tweetwetweet twe tweeted at

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 2>the time, tweets the.

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Time, tweeted the time, y'all ready to listen?

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Tweet tweet tweeters the tax.

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Tweets at the time, y'all tweets of the time, This

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>lovely person Shanes at Lucky Shane's tweeted, is it just me?

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Or has scandals screwed with my head? But I really

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 1>don't care if a government official is screwing around as

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>long as the job gets done. Amen. Remember the whole

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton scandal all that bullshit, and a lot of

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>people were like, who cares, Like at least he's getting

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>some as as long as he's doing a good job.

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's been going on since the beginning of time,

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 2>and most places are like famous for it. Like I

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 2>feel like people specifically stay at Sandy Sidrow Ranch because

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 2>it's where JMKA was sleeping with fucking Marilyn Monroe.

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Here, I didn't know that, Katie, really, yes, I want

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:00.359
<v Speaker 1>to go stay there.

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 2>There's like tons of places like that that are like

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 2>this is where the president and their mistress like, oh show,

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>it's just like Bill Clinton's happened to come about in

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>a time where like the press found out and the

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:13.399
<v Speaker 2>press is different than it was in the.

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Fiftieth Yes, yeah, yeah yeah.

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Lance Conley at d Q noop not to make light

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 2>of the situation, but how can the CIA director not

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 2>keep a secret? Sounds like he needs Olivia Pope to

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 2>step in. Wait, what's that about.

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>That's because there was a scandal happening simultaneously while scandal

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>was airing, during this episode, during this time where Petraeus

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>had chosen.

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Who this leads us today?

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, yes.

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 2>God, this is right because Okay, now we're seeing these tweets.

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Crystal Irbie Crystal loves Words tweeted, I know that Shonda

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 2>Rhimes is watching this Petreus story thinking, yes, what would

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Olivia Pope do?

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, That's why I love.

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 2>When we talk about scandals that were actually real life

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 2>scandals happening at the time, because we always just used

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:03.879
<v Speaker 2>to freak out that the show we were shooting sometimes

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>like the next week we would see such similar storylines

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 2>happening in the news.

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>That shit would be happening in real life. Yeah.

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 2>So the scandal of the time is an extra marital

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 2>affair between retired four star general and then director of

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 2>the Central Intelligence Agency aka the CIA, David am I

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 2>saying his last name.

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Right, betray us, I think.

0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:28.399
<v Speaker 2>And PAULA. Broadwell became public information. The CIA director had

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 2>chosen Broadwell to be his official biographer, and FBI investigation

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 2>proved that they were involved in an extra marital affair,

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 2>after which he resigned as director of the CIA at

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 2>November ninth, twenty twelve.

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 1>But also like who cares? Like why? Like what was

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the big deal? Right?

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it makes things so much worse for

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 2>the family. I don't know, ah, I think it's because

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 2>we don't have Maybe this is like too deep, but

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I feel like because our fucking country is wrapped up

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:57.240
<v Speaker 2>in so much religion.

0:39:57.800 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh absolutely, you know a.

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Fair are like such a sinful fucking thing and not

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 2>like they're not horrible and bad and they are. But

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I think if we aren't honest with ourselves. I remember

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 2>when I was waitressing at this restaurant, in New York City.

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 2>I was twenty one. It was like my first like

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:12.959
<v Speaker 2>big regular waitressing job. I was there for like three years,

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 2>and there were so many finance dudes who came with their.

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Women mistresses, I bet right, and then they.

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Would take their car services home to Darien or west

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, Connecticut or Westchester or whatever. But it was

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 2>my first time ever being like, oh my god, like

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 2>did my dad cheat? Like this is like such a

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 2>normal thing.

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't realize.

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>That all of these maybe happily married men either have

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 2>understandings with their wives or they just don't talk, don't tell,

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 2>or is.

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 1>It on the down low. Yeah, if you're a.

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Public figure and you're a president or a CIA charactor

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:52.800
<v Speaker 2>or something, you are not allowed or I guess you're allowed.

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:54.839
<v Speaker 2>You just better not have anyone fucking find out.

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, right right right, But I'm like, he's

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>getting the job done. That woman was retired, Like who can.

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>But I get why the optics of it are, you know,

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>not pleasant?

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like that's what I mean. I guess, like

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 2>who cares.

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if in Europe they're like, go ahead and

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 1>fuck whoever you want to fuck. We don't care.

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what I bet they do.

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Like in the political world.

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like they're commercials. I remember commercials and shows in

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 2>London have like way more sex and tits and like whatever,

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 2>or in Spain or like it just doesn't their standards

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 2>and practices and rules against that stuff are far more

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 2>lenient than ours are because we're like a puritan country

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:31.320
<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:32.879
<v Speaker 1>Totally, yeah, but I.

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Think that goes the same as like no one in

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 2>our public, no one public facing in politics, is allowed

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 2>to do things like that. Although yeah, ween are just

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 2>sending fucking I've.

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Been craving hot dogs lately. Katie's so bad, Like do

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you like?

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 2>It's on to wrap it up? And I need to

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 2>be fed.

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 1>We eat to eat.

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 2>The sharks need to eat. Okay, okay, we love you

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<v Speaker 2>all and yeh. Next we're gonna be talking about episode

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<v Speaker 2>two oh six called Spies Like Us.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that was such a good episode. I can't wait.

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. It's a classic classic.

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Guermo Diaz and fucking Huck in all of his glory.

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's so good, It's so good.

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.280
<v Speaker 2>It's so so good, So please come back listen.

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.479
<v Speaker 1>You will enjoy mm hm and we'll be talking some more,

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, tomfoolery and about food and sex and farts

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 1>and all that fun stuff. Y'all don't want to miss it.

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, we crazy upper here.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you. Have a great week. Unpack them toolboxes.

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<v Speaker 1>Back them toolboxes. Y'all know y'all got some shady shit

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 1>up and them toolboxes. Unpacked that shit. I love you, Katie,

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Love you Germo. Bye bye. Thank you guys for joining

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