1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, blowing out of the backfield, 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: exploding down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, presented 4 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts, 5 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. We 6 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: are back. It is Tuesday. Welcome to Hanging with the Boys. 7 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm Kurt Daniels without our fearless leader. Shannon Gross is 8 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 1: big timing us today. He is off hosting some kind 9 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: of private event. He's giving up his ten bucks for 10 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: this show to make a big buck, I'm sure. But 11 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: fortunately the main guys are here, the guys you're all 12 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: tuning in to see. We got the great Nate Newton, 13 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: of course, and back with us again. Is Jesse Hollie 14 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: here yesterday? Yeah, I'm like Shannon Man. You know, the 15 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: Holliday season is around the corner, and ten dollars ain't 16 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: gonna give all the big thick girls at the trailer 17 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: park the gift that they need. So I gotta do. 18 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: I gotta do some extra work on the side. You 19 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: know what was the trailer park man mask? Yeah? Yeah, 20 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: how do you get some extra matters some ppe mask? Man? 21 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: You know, what was it? What was it you were 22 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: doing yesterday, Jesse? You were I was doing the game. Yeah, 23 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: I was doing the play by play color for the 24 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: Blue Gray All American Bowl at the AT and T 25 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: Stadium High School All Star game. So yeah, so it's 26 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: pretty fun. That sounds fun. A good game. Uh it was. 27 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: It was okay, it was all right, huh Team West 28 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: West Team. Uh. Each team was coached by Tony Banks, 29 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: and uh, you know for Tony Banks to be a 30 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: former quarterback and then offensive guy, I was I was 31 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: really questioning this calling. I really was questioning his play call. 32 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: It was something I was like, wait a second, what 33 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: are we doing here? Like you're down? And they were 34 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: like they were down and were like kind of running 35 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: the form inte offense. I said, Tony, you got this 36 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: thing a little bit confused, my brother, you gotta you 37 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: gotta hurry it up. But you know, like sound like 38 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: Jesse was bringing them bringing the thunder yesterday, getting on 39 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: these guys. So here's the thing. So they tell you 40 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: before the game, it's like, you know, hey, this is 41 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: an all star game and you know it's being telecast. 42 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: Let's try to be as positive as we can even 43 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: when they're some negative things happened on the field, so 44 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: you guys know me, I missed a negative Nancy. So 45 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: that was like, okay, I won't call out those things 46 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: that are so negative. I was a great nun called 47 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: by Tony offense. But second you think they want to, 48 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, they're down sixteen, it's sure would be nice 49 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: to speed it up here. I was like, oh man, 50 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: did you did you guys watch the game last night 51 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: of summer saying that was one of the best games 52 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: of the season. Brother, I liked it. That hurt. Uh. 53 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: It just it's just and I hate to say this, 54 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: but I'm glad you watched it. Just I no, you 55 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: watch part over the summer after all of it. It 56 00:03:50,200 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: just goes to show cowboys have to reach there now 57 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: nowhere close. Well to think about it, even though I 58 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: think both of these teams have more than capable defenses, 59 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: it's still an offensive league, and it's still players can 60 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: make plays bigger and better on offense. But at one 61 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: time they needed to get you know, get it done. 62 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we still boil down to the kicker, don't 63 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: it The kid came out of unversus of Texas man. 64 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: But here but here's the thing, Nate, Here's the thing, 65 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: Nate Kurt. What we saw last night. We saw a 66 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: display offensively, defensively and special teams. But we saw a 67 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: display of what qb ones should do for their football team. 68 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, even in his early passing struggle, he was 69 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: still he was still able to run the football and 70 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: make some you know, some cruiser run place. Baker Mayfield 71 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: was playing a really good game behind a solid run game. 72 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: I do I do think we, you know, the last 73 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: ten weeks we have been kind of you know, forced 74 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: to watch cowboy football with Annie Dalton at the helm. 75 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: I do think football would be much more enjoyable and 76 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: much more competitive. Like I like to believe that if 77 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, despite whatever we had on the field at 78 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: the time, we beat Pittsburgh with Dak Prescott. I think 79 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: we beat Pittsburgh with Dak Prescott. I think there's a 80 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: lot of games where if Dak Prescott is in there, 81 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: you see the ability for your team to do more 82 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: because that player allows you to do more. And last 83 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: night you saw you saw Baker Mayfield do all that 84 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: he could for his team, but you saw Lamar Jackson 85 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: do just a little bit more when it was needed 86 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: for his team. So I don't know we're far away 87 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: from that, but I think our team as a whole 88 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: just looks so much more different when that QB one, 89 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, number four is under center and calling the shots. 90 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: Do you kind of it seems the general consensus as 91 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: the Cowboys would have probably won the NFC Suppresscott was healthy. 92 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: Do you think that's a true statement. I think one 93 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: or two more games that, Jesse you're talking about, Yes, 94 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: they will be the Tide with Washington or one game League, 95 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: because this is two games I think they could have 96 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: could have won if if d would have been there, 97 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: you know. And uh so, I'm with you all the way, Jess, 98 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: But man, I just it's just amazing to see good 99 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: football and it's not a lot of good teams out 100 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: there due to this COVID situation. Teams are either up 101 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: there doing their best and having a lot of fun 102 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: playing football, or teams look real, real bad. It's like 103 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: you either injury injury real and doing bad like the 104 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. I'm looking at them, fellas, they look bad. 105 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: They're a shell of themselves a year ago. So, uh, 106 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: you're the only clicking this time of a year. Are 107 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: you falling off the ledge? Yeah? And there's one more thing. 108 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: I think something that's kind of, you know, important is Sefanski. 109 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: You know, it took some time for him to kind 110 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: of get his system implemented, and his system kind of 111 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: worked in with Baker Mayfield. Right, So it's like, and 112 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: these are the things that I constantly want to say 113 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: about Mike McCarthy. And I'm not I'm not on the 114 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: defensive end on him, but you know, it takes time 115 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: to implement your system. It takes time to get guys 116 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: to buy into your scheme. It takes time for you 117 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: as a head coach to get the players in place 118 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: to whatever whatever the thought is, the vision is of 119 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: your team. It takes time for you to be able 120 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: to acquire those players, and and and again. It may 121 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: not be five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten players. It 122 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: may be two or three, right, it may be two 123 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: three that you can plug in some very key piece, 124 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: key places that gives your team that identity, that that look. 125 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: They brought in Bradley Chubb and Kareem Hunt and all 126 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden, that offense looked different, right, And they 127 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: because they had been marching quarterbacks in and marching. They 128 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: brought in Bradley Chubb and their offense looked different. You know, 129 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: they brought in some pieces here and there in their 130 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: offense look look different. They took a piece away due 131 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: to injury Odell Beckham, and their offense looked different. So 132 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: there's certain things when you when you're when you're a 133 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: coach and you're trying to get your culture built in there, 134 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: it takes a little bit of time. Man, It takes 135 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of time. I know that we see 136 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: coaches like uh like like the whiz Kid out in 137 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, La or out in San Francisco, and they 138 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: came on a scene and it was like, you know, 139 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: light white hot, and then they took a dip and 140 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: and now they're building themselves back up again. And this 141 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: is the things that I always want to keep preaching 142 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: the people when they're ready to throw Mike McCarthy out 143 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: the door, I mean just after literally a SIPs of call, 144 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: not even a whole cup. It's just that man, you know, 145 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: I know we you've waited twenty five years. One more 146 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: year won't kill you. And so that you can have 147 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: a full offseason and some draft some players and signs 148 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: some players, and then we could look like what we 149 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: saw last night. We could look like a competent football 150 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: team who was able to compete in big time football 151 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: games and make these type of plays for your team. 152 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: Stevenski was a I mean, he's a first year head coach, 153 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: so they you know, bought into a system pretty quick. 154 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: Did did losing Dak set back what McCarthy was trying 155 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: to do to know, No, No, the one advantage I 156 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: think he had Hurt and Jesse Melgreep. He got football 157 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: players that needed a direction. You checked their offense and 158 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: you check their defense. They have better than average at 159 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: every position. When you have football players and you are 160 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: building and molding, and these guys are fresh and hungry. 161 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: He's all first, second and third year players. That's like, 162 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: hey man, they just come from Power five programs where 163 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: they winning, so they're still hungry and determined and can 164 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: be molded. And that is what he's doing. He probably 165 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: sought Baker Mayfield looked and face say, hey man, your 166 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: dad is coming, let me help you get there. Well, 167 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: so even even losing Prescott probably didn't change what McCarthy 168 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: was trying to do or did you think it because 169 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: he didn't have the players or offensively, you do offensive 170 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: if you have the players, but your offensivelying was depleted. 171 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: So that made it hard for coach Fielding because he 172 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: was working behind that eight ball. Yeah, the only person 173 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: who had was Keller Moore, but he, you know, he 174 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: wasn't ready to adjust his game plan to what this 175 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: team needed at the time, so he was kind of 176 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: off kilter. So now these last three or four games, 177 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: even though it hasn't looked nice, even the victory, yes, 178 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: Dalls go you know, used on pens and needles and 179 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: they was up by thirty almost thirty points and you 180 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: were still on pins and needles because we didn't slow 181 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: down them offensive the defensively at all at all. So 182 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: besides the turnover, so, uh, you you're gonna have to 183 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: go get some players. I mean, no matter what you do, uh, defensively, 184 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: you gotta have to go get some players, man, And 185 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: you got to get a coach that can drive these 186 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: guys in the right direction. Jesse, you were you were 187 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: gone yesterday. We didn't get this chance to ask you. 188 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: Didn't you take anything from that win? Or is it 189 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: just you be a bad team and that's it. That's 190 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: all there is. I mean, as a player, winning is fun. 191 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: You this is what you play for. You take you 192 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: take the win for what it's worth. It's a win. 193 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: It's it's a you know, you put in the work 194 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: and you still have to go out there and beat 195 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: a football team. And that's not the easiest thing to 196 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: do Sunday in and Sunday out. Um as a as 197 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: a analyt, so whatever you want to call whatever I am, 198 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 1: um to me, it bolded nothing but a victory. It 199 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: keeps you still kind of in the hunt. But you're 200 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: supposed to beat the worst, the second worst team in 201 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: the National Footballer, you know what I'm saying, Like, those 202 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: are the type of things you go win and you say, yeah, guys, 203 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: these are these are when we're doing our kind of 204 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, preseason, looking at the schedule for the year. 205 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: These are the games we go on we say, yeah, 206 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: we're supposed to beat the Bengals, Like these are the 207 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: teams that you're supposed to beat. So you're appreciative and 208 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: happy for the victory because winning is fun and winning 209 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: is what you want to do. But you're still looking 210 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: at and saying it's not quality. It's a win, but 211 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: it ain't a quality win. You know, it's not a 212 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: win that we look back in the cell, you know, 213 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: we really beat a quality team. So you're back to 214 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: back bad seasons. I've been upon a back to back 215 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: bad season anywhere I can get. It was, hey, we 216 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: when we beat Washington, then the wheels almost came off 217 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: the plane. But subject it was funny. Rob Phillip was 218 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: talking about this a couple a couple of days ago, 219 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: um on the flagstaff station. He tell he said, you know, hey, 220 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: you should have saw Bus six when we beat Minnesota. 221 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: Bust six was after bus that that uh, the defensive 222 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: coordinator zone. He's like, that was a live bus. And 223 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: when people sometimes ask, you know, what do you do 224 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: you miss the game? I don't really miss playing on Sunday. 225 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: That's not what I missed. I missed the bus ride 226 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: after victory, the plane ride after victory. You know, when 227 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: you get to go back to the Star and you 228 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: know the rookies, you know, especially when you got those 229 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: back to back games that Thursday, that Thursday Sunday or 230 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 1: Sunday Thursday, and you're like, hey, rook go to the 231 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: Popeye's and pick up fifty pieces of chicken. Meet us 232 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: back at meet us, back at Valley Ranch. We go. 233 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: Now we're in a hot tub and the cold tub, 234 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: getting our bodies ready. But they got chicken and beer 235 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: and all other kinds off In the locker room, we're 236 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: having a good time. Music is playing. So those are 237 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: the things that you miss. I don't miss playing on Sunday. 238 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: That hurts too much. But when you get a victory 239 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: and that bus ride, that plane ride, that that locker 240 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: room moment, those are the things that you miss. And 241 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: so I understand what you're saying. Eight one hundred percent. 242 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: Every victory, especially when you got fuel far between, is 243 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: a celebration. But but but they know coming to town, 244 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: you know this week are the Niners, and you don't 245 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: want to you don't want to be the team like 246 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: that and then come around and turn around and lose 247 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: to a foot and nine, a team that kind of like, 248 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, two steps forward and three steps back? What's that? 249 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean? Excuse them? Ahead? Now, go ahead? No, especially 250 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: when this team that you're facing, they ain't gonna hesitate 251 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: to run that ball. They're not gonna hesitate for running 252 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: that ball. Would you, yeah, would you can. Would you 253 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: consider a win over San Francisco a quality win? I mean, 254 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: they're banged up there, losing record questions at quarterback? Would 255 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: that beat and that gives us two wins in a row? Right, 256 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: that gets that gives us a winning streak, And right now, 257 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: the only way that we are able to get into 258 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs, we got to win the rest of the 259 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: way out so we can't lose any more game. We 260 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: can build some momentum towards doing our end of the 261 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: dealers as far as winning the rest of the games 262 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: and hoping that Washington can find a way to lose 263 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: the rest of their games. So if you lose, if 264 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: you lose Sunday, you're pretty much dead. But if you win, 265 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: that's two games in a row and you're like, all right, fellas, 266 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: we're still on a hunt of this thing. And that 267 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: kind of gives you a little bit of momentum going 268 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: into that final week when you got to play two 269 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: two division opponents that are playing some decent football. Yeah, 270 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: all right, well, let's let's take our first break here 271 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: we get back. I got some questions, sorry about turnovers, 272 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: maybe red zone, maybe more about the rest of the season. 273 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: We'll see goes, but we will be right back. Well, 274 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm hanging with the boys. Is your family a Cowboys family? 275 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: Have you taken holiday photos at the Star? Was your 276 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: wedding theme blue and silver? Have you convinced your kids 277 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: them is spelled with a d if? 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But he's he's gone, which means I don't 314 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: have the reeds that we're supposed to have here. But 315 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm assuming Tommy John is uh as always are good friends. 316 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: Tommy John uh. Don't know what we do without him? 317 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: Always comfortable to wear? What do they have loungewere? Now? 318 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: I wish I knew all the final points. My daughter's 319 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: still mine, so apparently, But get you, get you some 320 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: Tommy John, Chilla Park got mine. Oh that's not good. Oh, 321 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: Chris sent me the reads too little, too late. But 322 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: we'll get them next time. So anyway, all right, onto 323 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: on two more football here. Obviously, the big factor in 324 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: the in the win over Cincinnati was the three turnovers, 325 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: and we talked a little bit about this yesterday, but 326 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Bob Sturm had an interesting article on Athletic today and 327 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: he said that over the last six games, the Cowboys 328 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: actually ranked twelfth in turning the ball over, which isn't 329 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: too bad, and they are ninth in takeaways, which is 330 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: plus three during that span, which actually would rank sixth 331 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: in the league over the last six games. Prior to that, 332 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: you go to the previous seven games, they were minus thirteen, 333 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: which was easily last. I mean it was horrible. I 334 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: think the next place team was Denver, like minus eight. 335 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean the Cowboys were just awful. So starting off, 336 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, what's changed, what's turning around? Is this something 337 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: that maybe McCarthy is we're seeing a little bit of 338 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: his influence on this, or guys just embarrassed. It's so 339 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: simple and I'm and I'm gonna be the guy to 340 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: be honest. One thing about I'm always honest about this 341 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: football game. Zeke stopped turning the ball over. Yeah, simple 342 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: as that, simple as that. When you get turnovers, especially 343 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: to or more a game, and you don't turn it over, 344 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: your chances, Vegas loves you, vacant. Vegas loves you. You 345 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: just think about the games with Zeke turned the ball over. 346 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 1: Those teams had short fields. They the one had fifty plays. 347 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: We had eighty five plays and four thousand yards they had. 348 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: They had fifty plays and two hundred yards and beat 349 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: us because they don't have to go twenty five yards 350 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: to score seventy five points. Come on, man, Yeah, I mean, Jesse, 351 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: if you see it differently, I mean that that bothers 352 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: me man, that you turn the ball over and you 353 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: lose the ball, you lose the game. And it's always 354 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: interesting when you look at turnovers, they always begin to 355 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: happen in bunches, right, It's like, you know, you get 356 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: one and next thing, you know, and and that's that 357 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: goes either way. It's like, even when you're on the 358 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: receiving good side of turnovers, they come in bunches. Uh. 359 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: And early on they were they were going against us 360 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: in bunches, the fumbles, the interceptions, trying to find the way, 361 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: and you can't win games that way. And over the 362 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: last couple of games you saw kind of the tide 363 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: turn a little bit in the cowboys favor with them 364 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: being able to secure and come up with some of 365 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: these turnovers in their favor. But they seem to come 366 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: in bunches. You just hope that you're on the positive 367 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: side of that turnover battle. And I think the biggest 368 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: that well, why is it in bunches? I mean that 369 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: is it? Guy's just they get to start pressing. Yeah, 370 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: it's it's almost to it now. It's like chumming the water. 371 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, we got one, let's get another one. Fellow, 372 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: let's get another one. You come in thinking that, but 373 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: when you see one pop, now you let's get another one. 374 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: Let's get another on, let's get another one. Yeah. And 375 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: so now that it's a heightened sense of oh, he 376 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: got one, let's all go get one. And so now 377 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: you have god, more guy's flying to the ball, more 378 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: goud's taking an opportunities, and more guy's taking shots, and 379 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: more guy's being more aggressive. And so that's the thing 380 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: about like turnovers can change the momentum of a game, 381 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: not only because you get an extra possession, but it 382 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: kind of rev the guys up a little bit. It 383 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: makes you want to go out there and see if 384 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: you can't hunt up another one. And I know you're like, well, 385 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: why do you do that? From the start of the game, 386 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: you do, you do, you want to hunt it out. 387 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: But when it happens, when you find, you know, when 388 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: when that dog finally catches that squirrel has been chasing, 389 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: now you're just like, I got it. I got You 390 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: get excited about it. And that's contagious and other guys 391 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: want to be a part of that type of energy. Well, 392 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: what didn't how big it? I mean, we always talk 393 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: about how the injuries played such a part in the 394 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: poor start in the poor season, how big a factor 395 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: would it have been if they weren't done. It's thirteen 396 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: those first seven games. That is that really what we're 397 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: talking about. A difference. YEA. Every time you turn the 398 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: ball over, you lose the opportunity to actually put points 399 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: on the board. And every time you don't get turnovers, 400 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: that means that team that you were playing to gets 401 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: had all their opportunities to score the football. And games 402 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: are usually broken down into about four or five plays 403 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: that happen or don't happen for you to win a game. 404 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: Last night, you think Baker Mayfield doesn't want that interception 405 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: back last night, right, the one that got his team 406 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: intercept that they went down almost to the goal line 407 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: and then they punched in in. You think he don't 408 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: want You think you don't he doesn't want that one 409 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: back or a throw or there's all these little things 410 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: that happened in the course of the game. And when 411 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: you go back and you look at it, you're saying, man, 412 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: one or two plays here are there, and we get 413 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: the victory. And that's what you try. That's what you 414 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: want to be able to do. You want to have them. 415 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: You want to have all your opportunities plus maybe steal 416 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: one or two to give yourself the best chance to 417 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: win a football game. Percentages are in your favor when 418 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: you don't turn the ball over and when you get turnovers. 419 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: And that's why you think. That's why you see a 420 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: lot of times. You see a lot of coaches won't 421 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: kick them long. Try them long field goals then plus 422 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: forty field goals because if you get you get the 423 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: ball back plus seven yards from where they kicked it 424 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: from them. So that's a turnover in itself. You don't 425 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: when when those games are being played last night, you 426 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: had to think it through every kick, every snap. And 427 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 1: that's what kept us watching. That's what kept every one 428 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: of us watching because at first ione watching it, I'm 429 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: sitting there messing around with the computer, and all of 430 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm the whoa, Okay, did you see the 431 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: man run up out of the up out of the tunnel. 432 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: You know, the dude falls down, hurts his knee all 433 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden, like they don't scripted this. Okay, fall bro, 434 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: and we I'm gonna run out here and I'm gonna 435 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: say that, you know, it's so they like he's scripted. 436 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: Did you feel that way? And so all of a 437 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: sudden he couldn't throw the ball the first half, but 438 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: now he's the one that he finding Andrews, he got hot, 439 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: he got the young kid fifteen, I can't think of 440 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: his name. Hit him. I mean, he's making plays, man, 441 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: this is yeah. And Baker over the last two games. 442 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: Besides that, in a session, Baker has looked like that 443 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: guy we've seen at Oklahoma where where he's doing things 444 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: in a methodical way and he and that is that 445 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: is good coaching. And I and I hope and I 446 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: pray and Jess, I want you to tell me real 447 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: quick like and I know it's not Cowboys. Do you 448 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: think Baker can say on this path? Yeah, because what 449 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: Stefanski has done is he is taking the pressure off 450 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: of Baker. He said, Baker, I don't need you to 451 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: do everything. And this is why this is you want 452 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: you want to know. One of the reasons why Zeke 453 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: is having a down year to making Cowboy related, it's 454 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: not having four back. There is not being able because 455 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: there's something that when you have the presence of your 456 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: starting quarterback, Dad is able to see and feel either. 457 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: This is the gift that starting quarterbacks half. I know 458 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: when how where to get my players involved. I know 459 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: when Zeke needs a run. I can feel what types 460 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 1: of runs are working for Zeke, so if I need 461 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: to change it in the huddle or at the line 462 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, I can. But I also know how to 463 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: get CD involved on what's some of his best routes. 464 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: And the same thing goes for Michael Gallop, but the 465 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: same thing goes for Amari Cooper. So when you so 466 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: when you have that kind of leader at the helm, 467 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: he makes everyone else's job so much easier because he says, 468 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: you ain't got a press, I'm gonna put you in 469 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: a position to succeed. So for Cleveland, they've taken off 470 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: the pressure from Baker having to feel like I to 471 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: do everything for us to win. I gotta throw the 472 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: ball four hundred times and have five thousand yard for 473 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: us to win. They said, nope, we're gonna have a 474 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: real solid running game and then you're gonna make the 475 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: throw that you need to make when you need to 476 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: make them, and you're sprinkling a little bit of just 477 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: your your it factor because Baker has a hit factor 478 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: to him and then now now now we mix all 479 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: that together and we have a winning formula. But when 480 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: you start taking those things out or when you start 481 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: putting too much on now that that that recipe it 482 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: ain't with Grandma. You know, it ain't with Grandma written 483 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: up thirty years ago. It's like no, no, no, I said, 484 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: I half a teaspoon of sugar, not a whole cup. 485 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, baking soda Baker's exactly. So 486 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: it's like it's like, you know, we want so much 487 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: from Zeke, and we're like, man, you know. And and 488 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: I say this jokingly because we have a good time, right, 489 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: me and Nate. When it comes to the to the 490 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: Zeke argument, I know that Zeke is still a really 491 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: good player, but I also know what he's missing. Yes, 492 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: he's missing his offensive line, but more so importantly, he's 493 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: missing that quarterback that will make defenders have to think twice. Guy, 494 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: don't have to think twice. With Andy Dalton, they're just like, listen, 495 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: if he if he can beat us in the back end, 496 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: hes gonna beat us in the back end, which we doubt. 497 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: And you saw that last night, Kurt Jail. You saw 498 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: that last night when the backup quarter sty McSorley came 499 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: in and he tried to run that same read option 500 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: and he was so you could see the ball. They 501 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: knew he had it, and he tried to make a 502 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: move and blew his knee out. And I hope the 503 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: kid is all right, you know, because I blame Greg Roman. 504 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: Don't do that to that kid. You know, you asked 505 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: this kid to do something as a super Nintendo athlete 506 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: is doing. Don't don't do that to that kid. But anyway, 507 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. We have to take what 508 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: livid we had and we don't have much on defense, 509 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: and uh, these coaches got to package it up the 510 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: last two or three games. And I'm not looking at 511 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: it as everybody else is that we're still in it. 512 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it a man. Grow, you know, be 513 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: the best you can be for your thirty five players. 514 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: So your for because I felt like after the first 515 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: series for the DBS and the second it was survival, 516 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: you know, we just could have brought out the cameras 517 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: the head here's this week's survival, because they were shifting 518 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: guys in and out of us so quick and so 519 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: fast you didn't know who it was one minute, is 520 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: this number? Next minute? Is that number? You can even 521 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: catch some of the names. So and they won, they 522 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: beat they beat a bad team. And as bad as 523 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: I want to cheer and hollow and do flips man 524 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: at last night, you know somebody went by me. You know, 525 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: you passed my people in the street. You know you 526 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: got your masks and they'll be like Nate, I'm like, yeah, 527 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: you know that was that was a That was okay? 528 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: When wasn't it? I mean it wasn't the same y'all? 529 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: Really ticket to him and I was okay, w what 530 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: it's like me looking for approval for the wind. I'm like, man, 531 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: that was a great wed. That was a great we 532 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: you know that's right. All right, let's take our second 533 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: break here. When we get back, I do have another 534 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: running back related question. Since you're talking about the balanced 535 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: offense of Cleveland and that red zone, I got a 536 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: red zone question for you as well. So we will 537 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: be right back with more hanging with the boys. 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We are back with 575 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: Hanging with the Boys. I'm Kurt Daniels. We have Jesse Holley, 576 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: Nate Newton with us, getting fighting our way through without Shannon. 577 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: Let's see Christmas extravaganzas here. Don't miss the Virtual Christmas 578 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: Extravagas Extravaganza presided by Albertson's and Tom Thumb. The most 579 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: electrifying holiday issue of the season can be watched on 580 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Facebook and Twitter on December twenty fourth at 581 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: six pm Central, or on demand at Dallas Cowboys dot 582 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: com slash Christmas. They always put on a great show, 583 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: and what I understand that even though it's not you 584 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: can't be there in person, they put together a pretty 585 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 1: nice package here of a Tommy and lots of Christmas 586 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: is there? You go? Yea, what more do we need? 587 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: We're doing good there? All right, last segments. You guys, 588 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: we were talking about some of the game last night 589 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: and how Cleveland's running attack has really helped out Baker Mayfield. 590 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: Obviously one of the things that it's hurting Zeke. Maybe 591 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: it's it's not having Dak, but it raised the question, 592 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: I think Nate we talked about this a little bit yesterday, 593 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: but I wanted to bring it up again. In that 594 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: game against Cincinnati, Zeke had twelve carries, Tony Pollard had eleven, 595 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: and so you know, I'm wondering a lot of people 596 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: are saying that's the way it should be in today's NFL. 597 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: You need a running back by committee and If you 598 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: look at the top rushing teams in the in the 599 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: league right now, Baltimore's first. They're avaging one hundred and 600 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: seventy three point eight per game. They've got a bunch 601 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: of guys including Lamar Jackson leading them. Uh. Tennessee obviously 602 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: is a one back offense. They've they've got Henry the 603 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: big guy. Then you've got Cleveland. They've got a pair 604 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: of studs in a Chub and Hunt. After that. Fourth 605 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: as Arizona they've obviously they got Drake, but they've also 606 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: got a running quarterback. Then you have New England. I 607 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: don't even know who they have running the ball. Six 608 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: is Minnesota with with what's his name? Yeah? Cook? After that, though, 609 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: you've got New Orleans, the Rams, Philadelphia, Green Bay, Seattle. 610 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, these days, it seems like most teams aren't 611 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: going with the one back offenses. They've got a several guys, 612 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: in some cases a quarterback who's up on out that 613 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: running attack. Is that something that the Cowboys are gonna 614 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: need to do in the future if they want to 615 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: see more success from their running game. I would just 616 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: like to see, you know what, two want a two 617 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: guy that come back that starters and uh, and then 618 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: with that back then then we'll see. Then we'll see 619 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: I mean still Tony Poller des earned the right to 620 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: be on the field. Let's just see what happens fresh 621 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: coming into next year and how how does Zeke finish 622 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: up this year? I mean maybe they'll found something, uh, 623 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, with with Tony Polter and Zeke. But I 624 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: would just like to see how this thing turns out. 625 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: But going into next year, because I know, if I'm 626 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 1: coach mccarthur anywhere in the world, somebody telling me, well, 627 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: if we got the COVID, we ain't practicing. Now we've 628 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: been the practice. You can't go to another year this. 629 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: What do you think, Jesse? You think switching it up 630 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: more often behind, you know, as a running back with 631 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: helper just ride that horse. The thing is and I 632 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: said this before when it comes to the Zeke Pollard conversation, 633 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: Pollard found himself in the wrong place at the wrong time. 634 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: I think Paula is more than deserving for those reps 635 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: on the football field. Problem is the guy who's playing 636 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: in front of was a number four overall pick and 637 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: actually got to a second contract as a running back. 638 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: And despite what you may feel. And despite what you 639 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: may think, the guys that they pay they're going to play, 640 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: they don't. I'm not trying to get like you think 641 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: that paying Zeke twelve thirteen, fourteen, fifteen million dollars and 642 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: him only having eleven carries twelve carries is something that 643 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: sits well with the front office. Now, if you told 644 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: me this was happening and they were eleven and two, 645 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: then maybe, But when you talk about them being in 646 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: the situation that they're they're they're in, that doesn't sit 647 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: well with that front office because they're saying, listen, play him, 648 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: put him in. Do find ways to get him going, 649 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: because we've hate him a boetload of money. And when 650 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: you do that, you gotta be able to justify some 651 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: way somehow. Now, if they decided to do something with 652 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: Zeke and his contract in the year or so, and 653 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, whether he takes a pay cut or anything 654 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: like that, then I can see it being more of 655 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: a fifty fifty split between Zeke and Tony Pollard. But 656 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: if not, you're going to see twenty one and get 657 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: the bulk of the carries most of the time, and 658 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: until he's either gone or reduce his contract someway somehow, 659 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: which I highly DoPT they're able to do that. So 660 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: Tony either have to waste his time until they're done 661 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: with Zeke or try to find his way somewhere else, 662 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: because I just don't see that dynamic. You know what 663 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: is intelligent as years? I think you just sometimes say, 664 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: let me use this uh sorry phrase us word. He 665 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: has to waste his time. Come on, I don't know 666 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: wait wait wait, wait, okay, yeah, because pronounce that right, 667 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: because Curt, did you get the safe? And then he 668 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: say wasting his time? Come on, now I was solving there. 669 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 1: I think I was falling there. But yeah, come on, McCarthy. 670 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: If McCarthy and Kellen Moore said, we have a better 671 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: chance of winning with going two backs, changing it up 672 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: more often, keeping everybody fresh for the long haul, you know, 673 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,919 Speaker 1: big pictures, we're better this way. You think they're still 674 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: in their hands are kind of time. Their hands are 675 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: only tied if it doesn't result in victory. When when 676 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: you're winning, when you're winning, like if you told, if 677 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: you told Jerry, hey, Jerry, I can guarantee you eleven 678 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: and two start if we decrease Zeke's workload by fifty percent, 679 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: Jerry's like, do it. I'm all for it. I'm out 680 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: your way. If it doesn't yield results, that's when you're 681 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: going to run into the problem. So and right now, 682 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: hearthy's still on that new relationship, fresh ideas. Let's hear 683 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: what he has to say. He's still in that, he's 684 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: still in that time frame. So if that's the idea 685 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: that he has, it has to yield results right away, 686 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: because if it doesn't, if what you're saying is we're 687 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: one and three, two two, and you know two and 688 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: five or you know three and five, three and six, 689 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: that's not going to sit well with the people who 690 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: have to cut the checks because you're saying, Okay, you 691 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: told me that this would work, and if we're not 692 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: on the positive side of things, I can't buy into this. 693 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: For what I am paying him, we are full. And 694 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: then so you talk in real life, Jess, you don't 695 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 1: have to pretend. Oh man, all right, let's I wanted 696 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: to ask you too. This is a question that came 697 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: up on the mailbag today Dallas Cowboys dot com and 698 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,959 Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of interesting, and you guys, 699 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: being former players, I wanted to get your opinion. The 700 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys have struggled in the red zone this year. They 701 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 1: they scored touchdowns son only two or four trips against 702 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: Cincinnati on Sunday, and for the season, they're scoring touchdowns 703 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: on trips to the red zone only fifty percent of 704 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: the time, which is thirtieth in the NFL. So another 705 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: bad offensive statistic for them. But one fan wrote in 706 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: and asked, you know, for all the great you know 707 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: they have three fantastic receivers, maybe the best receiving corps 708 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: in the league, but they what they may not have. 709 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 1: You know, you had Dez Bryant was a big, physical receiver. 710 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: I think you finished second in the in the Enfranchise 711 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: history for touchdowns. As good as the Cowboys receivers are, 712 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 1: are they missing that guy? Do they need a receiver 713 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: like that to get in there and get the ball 714 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: in the red zone? I think you haven't. I really do, man, 715 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: because you know you pound Zeka Tony of the one 716 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: two times. But it's no way in the world. I'm 717 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: gon how these three receivers and the tight end is 718 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: doing okay, It's just you just gotta be a little 719 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: bit more sharp or a little bit more precise, because 720 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: it's no way they should be that bad in the 721 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: red zone unless they're trying to run the ball, and 722 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: that's because the offensive line ain't is good in that 723 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: tight space. And I understand ain't a lot of space 724 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: to be had in the end zone, especially when you're 725 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: inside the ten to five and it decreases and get 726 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: smaller as you get closer. But we have those horses. 727 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: You just have to demand that they get open and 728 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback has to get it there. Because he threw 729 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: one to Cooper early in the game that it was nice, 730 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: it was nice. Now they can do that, man, I 731 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: believe they can. I believe they can't. And maybe we'll 732 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: have to listen to Jess because you probably go back 733 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: to QB one, the original Listen. I'm looking at I'm 734 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,439 Speaker 1: looking at you know, I'm looking at the top ten. 735 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: You know, Green Bay doesn't have a Dere's Bryant type uh, 736 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: you know, receiving the red zone, and they're number one. 737 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 1: Cleveland's number four, they don't, Minnesota number five, they don't 738 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: um Sam Frands number eight, they don't Alas number ten, 739 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: and they don't you know, New Orleans has some pretty 740 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: good They got Michael Thomas, and Tampa has Mike Evans 741 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: and that crew. And Tennessee has guys like AJ Brown, 742 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: and Seattle of course has DJ Metcalf. But I mean, 743 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: you look at a lot of these guys who are 744 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: in the top ten twenty, you know, top twenty of 745 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: the league, and they don't have Dez Bryant, like, um, 746 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: you know, there's Brant. What they do have is they 747 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: have they have darned good red zone quarterbacks right Green Bay, Seattle, Tennessee, Minnesota, 748 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Arizona, uh San franc They got good quarterbacks 749 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: of that when they get in the red zone. And 750 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: and the thing about the red zone is that you 751 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: have to you already have to be a a quick 752 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,399 Speaker 1: thinker in the open field, you have to be even 753 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: more of a quicker a quicker thinker in the red 754 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: zone because what windows kind of open the clothes in 755 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: the open field. They in the red zone because the 756 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: defenders have that twelve minute the back of the end zone, 757 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: they don't have to backpedal twenty they don't have to 758 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: cover fifty sixty seven yards behind their head. Everything now 759 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 1: was condensed. You can pass things off. So you need 760 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: that quarterback. You need that guy at this you know, 761 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: at the at the quarterback position to be able to 762 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: assess and know where the ball is going right now, 763 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: because you don't have the time that you normally have. 764 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: Another Andy Dalton has had experience in this league, but 765 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 1: he hasn't had experience with this offense in these players 766 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: for an entire season. He's had he had a you know, 767 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: a handful of games with them. But when you get 768 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,280 Speaker 1: in the red zone, you have to know your offense. 769 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: You have to know what you're looking at in front 770 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: of you, and you have to really know where the 771 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: ball is going right now. In the red zone, you know, 772 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 1: very rarely do you have time to go to first, second, 773 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: third reads. Some guys do what you'll see it happen 774 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 1: from time to time, but most of the time red 775 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: zone is I gotta find a guy who I'm going 776 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: to and get the ball to it right now. Yeah. 777 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 1: They you kind of mentioned this too. I mean, the 778 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: offensive line, considering all the injuries, hasn't been that bad 779 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: this year. They've kind of held their own with the 780 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: new guys. But is this where we see the injuries 781 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: pop up when they are in the red zone. They 782 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: just these guys don't have the push. Yeah, they don't 783 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: have to push man, and the holes are so much 784 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: much smaller, you know, in the open field. You know, 785 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: we say, hey man, we can get setn percent of 786 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: big wood on a player. We're doing okay. But if 787 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: they if things are so tight down there, if you 788 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: can just get forty percent of a guy, just get 789 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: a shoulder on them, just badly, get any type movement 790 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 1: and the great running backs can find that can find 791 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: that hole. But when things are caving in on you, 792 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: and that's what most that happened to the offensive mine, 793 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: especially in the middle, the guys just pressure so hard 794 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: to you ain't got nothing going up in that middleman, 795 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: So I think you got to throw that thing. And 796 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: I still think we have the receivers and like you said, 797 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: jessef Our quarterback and get some work with them. We 798 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: should be a great red zone because who who can 799 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: handle outside guy? You know, in Cooper you're gonna have 800 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: to really set somebody out there winning. But what I 801 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 1: like is CD Lamb should be scorching folks. Brother. And 802 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: let me say this, and let me say this, and 803 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: let me say this quickly. Another thing that's important about 804 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: red zone is to practice time, right yea. Until I 805 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: was there, they had so many reps of that jump ball, 806 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: that back shoulder fade because we had practice. You already 807 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: have a limited time when you're actually able to practice 808 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: red zone in practice, and now in this new like 809 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: for example, the Cowboys ain't practice the first two days. 810 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: Everything's virtual. They go virtual, so you don't you don't 811 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 1: have enough time. You don't have enough time in the 812 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: work week because when you're getting practice, you're saying, all right, listen, 813 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,919 Speaker 1: we got one side at this. We don't have time 814 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: to do it. Blow the whist will come back. Now 815 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 1: we're limited in our time to do anything that we 816 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: want to do. And red zone is about repetition. You 817 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: gotta be able to rep these things out. And coming 818 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: into this year, with the instability of injuries and quarterbacks 819 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: and offensive linemen and time together, time together, they have 820 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 1: not had much of it, a little too none of it. 821 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: So when you're talking about having to be in those 822 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: moments where you need to be precise, that comes with repetition, 823 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: and red zone is a repetition precise area of the field. 824 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: It's not enough practice time for a team like this 825 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: because they have so many other worlds that they're trying 826 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 1: to plug up and fill up and get better at that. 827 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: You don't have all day and all time to do 828 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 1: this red zone situation. Yeah, red zone and special team 829 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 1: are getting crushed around the league for what Jesse just said, 830 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: lack of time. Yeah. Well, speaking of time, we are 831 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: out of it. Cruscious time. Yeah, Nate, So you're turning 832 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 1: to take off tomorrow, You're gonna be here now, I'm 833 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 1: being here. I'll be here too. Nobody getting bonuses like Jesse. 834 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: That's yeah, you and me. We're grinding through this, you know, 835 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 1: grinding man, bringing the dollars, that's rights, bring the dolls. Well, 836 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: thank you Nate, Thank you Jesse, Thank you Chris Bean 837 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: for keeping us on the air. Thank you to Wingstop 838 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 1: as well. We should have a full crew here tomorrow, 839 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 1: same time, same place. We appreciate you tuning in. We're 840 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: hanging with the boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This has been 841 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 842 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Clock.