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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily.

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Speaker 2: This is a great jaunty tune. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I'm in good spirits.

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Speaker 4: We are here in the Chris Wesley podcast studio, and

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Speaker 4: my name is Greg Rosenthal, and I'm here with Colleen

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Speaker 4: Wolf and Jordan rodrig Ready to pass out some hardware.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we are welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: This is so much fun.

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Speaker 5: This is I feel like should be my theme music.

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Speaker 5: This is what plays in my head when I'm at

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Speaker 5: home and I'm singing to my dogs.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Great job, this explains a lot. I want you to host.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say future award shows, but can you

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Speaker 4: just take the wheel now?

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Speaker 2: No, Greg, you are the host.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrigg you're here too.

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Speaker 6: Who. I love hearing the sounds of Colleen's brain. It's wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, weird place.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: What what are the sounds in your brain like after

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Speaker 4: let's say the Dodgers take out the Phillies in the place.

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Speaker 5: Okay, nothing, darkness, it's just like post apocalyptic sounds.

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Speaker 3: Wind monk chances.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna we're gonna spin it back positive here.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, it's it's a wards time and we're here

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Speaker 4: on the NFL channel in addition to being in your ears.

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Speaker 4: We love everyone that listens to the podcast, but.

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Speaker 2: Our ears, your hearts, your mind.

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Speaker 1: And they said, it's the mid scenes in your room

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Speaker 4: In your brain. I know what you were thinking about, Jerry.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of weird.

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Speaker 1: We Uh.

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Speaker 4: I showed up last week to pick up some pizza

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Speaker 4: had literally seventeen children at my house, which was way

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Speaker 4: too much. We're gonna we're gonna whittle down that list

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Speaker 4: next year, some of the kid.

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Speaker 1: Well and parents and stuff. So it was just way

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Speaker 1: too much. We get it.

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Speaker 4: They were absolutely packed in my backyard, which is only

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Speaker 4: like half of a backyard anyways. Uh, when I picked

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Speaker 4: up the pizza, I saw us NFL Daily on the

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Speaker 4: NFL channel, and so the NFL channel there, it's important.

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Speaker 4: It's free over the air television. You get it on

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Speaker 4: all your TVs. And they said, this is halfway through

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Speaker 4: the season. You got to do a mid season awards show.

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Speaker 4: And we thought, well, it's trade deadline week, how about both?

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Speaker 4: Why not both? And so what we're going to do

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Speaker 4: is we're going to give out some of our own awards,

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Speaker 4: and we're gonna just kind of discuss, uh, the the

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Speaker 4: actual awards that the Associated Press hands out, and we're

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Speaker 4: going to give not predictions, I want this to be clear,

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Speaker 4: not predictions for what's going to happen at the end

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Speaker 4: of the year. We're going to give for what has

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Speaker 4: happened so far, just this half season, give our half season.

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Speaker 1: MVP.

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Speaker 2: You did write that in the text.

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Speaker 4: Maybe actually probably a conversation we should have had.

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Speaker 2: All right, yol.

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Speaker 4: So they tell us that do some awards, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: do them. We'll go back and forth between like our

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Speaker 4: awards and the regular awards. And let's start with the

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Speaker 4: most irregular award of all. And that's one that's given

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Speaker 4: out by Colleen Wolf.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, great, well, congratulations because the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 5: Revenge Body Award ooh goes to the Indianapolis could of course.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they're so fearing of it.

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Speaker 5: And it's because I broke up with them essentially by

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Speaker 5: not doing the normal thing that I do that I

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Speaker 5: have done for years and years, is supporting them, believing

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Speaker 5: And I quietly stepped away and said, all right, I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna protect my own energy here. And now I'm watching

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Speaker 5: This offense is incredible. I know they had a down

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Speaker 2: But their general.

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Speaker 5: Manager is making trades big ones, Sauce Gardner.

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Speaker 2: This is a huge deal.

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Speaker 5: And I just love the fact that carle Ers Gordon

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Speaker 5: fact that they're having this success with that happening, I

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Speaker 5: don't think that it's a coincidence. So I'm going to

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Speaker 5: say that Carly is the good luck charm and this

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Speaker 5: is she's taking revenge on the entire league basically, mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: And I think I think she would say that the

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Speaker 4: being part of the whole Sauce Gardener equation is inspired

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Speaker 4: and trying to take advantage of this post Jim Ersay

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Speaker 4: passing season because look, it's on their helmets. They've talked

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Speaker 4: wouldn't it be incredible to get back to the super

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Speaker 4: Bowl to honor her father? Jim Ersay, So, I love

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Speaker 4: this and unlike most revenge bodies though, I feel like

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Speaker 4: you've now done your mea culpas. I think Colts fans

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Speaker 4: handful of year, especially in.

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Speaker 1: This Like in AA I was there.

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Speaker 3: You did so much emotional labor for them college.

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Speaker 4: Right, I think now you should be able to enjoy

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Speaker 4: the spoil of their revenge body.

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Speaker 5: Well, Daniel Jones, that's my guy, Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: We got a new one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, were there any other candidates potentially for the revenge Body?

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Speaker 1: I was trying to think of, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Sam Donald, to the Vikings into the world and to

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Speaker 5: the Jets actually, like the the ex Jets on the

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Speaker 5: Seahawks from the other night, Leonard Williams and Sam Donald

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Speaker 5: together making great music and X.

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Speaker 4: Ex Giants with Daniel Jones and Leonard Williams also an

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Speaker 6: It's a microcosm of your pick but lou and Arumo

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Speaker 2: I wrote that down to say, thank god you sound like.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, who knew?

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Speaker 4: Who knew that Sam Donald will be showing off that

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Speaker 4: you know, like, didn't expect that to be the revenge

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Speaker 4: all right, Jordan, your award, my award.

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Speaker 6: First award today. Congratulations to Joe Burrow for winning the

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Speaker 6: Despite all my rage, I'm still just a rat in

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Speaker 6: for another year. Despite all his pushing and his emotional

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Speaker 6: lobbying for all these wide receiver contracts, that still ends

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Speaker 6: the same way, because you're stuck in the cage of

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Speaker 6: this defense and you're never getting out.

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Speaker 3: Until you get out of there.

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Speaker 7: Job right as a tour group walks by Love that

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Speaker 3: Awesome.

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Speaker 4: I mean, maybe the cage is the entire Bengals organization.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, you get the metaphor you can't get out,

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Speaker 5: get the medical.

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Speaker 2: Tiger in a cage.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm not saying? Joe Burrow is

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Speaker 4: But if you're coming up with like the word possible equation,

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Speaker 4: it's actually someone putting up quarterback stats as good as

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow could while they're still losing.

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Speaker 1: So it's like the worst of both worlds.

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Speaker 4: Joe Flacco is out there having all this fun and

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Speaker 4: showing like, hey, anyone can look good with t Higgins

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he can't even reap the rewards of his own

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Speaker 6: to watch again this entire team fall apart because the

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Speaker 6: problems remain the problems, and he still remains stuck there

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Speaker 6: in sort of this hell of partial partially his own creation.

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow on the sideline. I think that was the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, rolled out of bed. I feel so bad for him.

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Speaker 6: He did get bangs. That's how we know something is wrong. Also,

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Speaker 6: all so, I want to paint the picture of people

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Speaker 6: for people who are listening and maybe weren't watching. You

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Speaker 6: should be watching this show, especially this episode.

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Speaker 2: But we were.

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Speaker 6: We were rocking out and we were in full like

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Speaker 2: That's really good.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever go to like a hard like heavy metal? Maybe?

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Speaker 1: Are we?

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Speaker 2: Do you think I have?

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Speaker 1: I think Jordan has. Yes, he's definitely been.

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Speaker 6: I've caught some tools no way, Yeah cool big time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah mm hmm my sometimes I write the tool my

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Speaker 6: good our good friend Nate Tice grinds filmed to tool.

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Speaker 2: Shut up.

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Speaker 5: Wait, okay, I'm so sorry I must know this. What

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Speaker 5: was your first concert you ever went to? My first

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Speaker 2: That's tough.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you remember yours? Third Eye Blind?

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Speaker 4: My My first concert was a They Might Be Giants

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and very fitting to this day.

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Speaker 1: My first award is the What Award, and it's the

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Speaker 1: team what. I love it.

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Speaker 5: I love what what What?

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Speaker 4: The team that just just makes you say what what?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 1: Are you?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Stop it? Stop it? The Falcons who you had on

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Speaker 4: last week? I think very well, Jordan's I don't need

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Speaker 4: to repeat it. The Vikings they actually lead the league

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Speaker 4: the play what are you doing? Being three and five?

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Speaker 4: You stunk even with Lamar Jackson, like the Panthers are

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Speaker 5: But ultimately I was thinking about that for Revenge Body

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Speaker 4: For like, for like three weeks, he'll just be on

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Speaker 1: A way to lose.

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Speaker 4: I don't really know what you are, Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 4: You're the winners of the award.

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Speaker 2: I don't know I'm obsessed with the song.

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Speaker 1: I really have this. I want to tell you.

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Speaker 3: I listened to everything you just said, but no dancing.

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Speaker 1: It was about the Packers.

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Speaker 5: This is what I'm gonna play every day that I

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Packers.

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Speaker 4: Started the season as a lot of people's Super Bowl favorites.

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Speaker 4: They're right there, still near the top of the NFC.

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Speaker 4: Which is this troubling? But the game management that the

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Speaker 2: I was surprised that they lost to the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: We're not we don't know how this is going to go.

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Speaker 4: Out some names that I think would be worthy of

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Speaker 4: Let's start with uh Amicabuca. Yes, certainly in that mix.

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Speaker 4: We're not predicting. No, we're awarding. No t mac is

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Speaker 4: I think it's a really good offensive rookie class. Because

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Speaker 6: I feel like you already know where I go as

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Speaker 6: Emicabuka will win.

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Speaker 1: It does feel like a two man race should win,

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Speaker 3: We're not predicting it, and it's the half season.

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Speaker 4: What we're going to do, We're going to put in

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Speaker 4: I think it is Warren or Abuka.

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Speaker 5: Well, I would say Warren just because maybe this isn't

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Speaker 2: We all know that. Now he's back. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: It's very close.

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Speaker 4: Warren's amazing, like they've skied them open so well. He

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Speaker 5: Buka too, really just surprised everyone. Yeah, no one saw

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Speaker 5: him coming. Nobody realized that he was going to be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are both like All Pro candidates.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Abuka not as strong today as he was

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Speaker 4: defensive Rookie of the Year. It's not a good class

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Speaker 4: happy to listen to anyone else. Carson Schwessinger for the

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Speaker 4: Nick Am and Worry is coming fast, but he just

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Speaker 1: Who do you think has been the.

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Speaker 1: I think he's coming back soon.

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Speaker 3: That's a player who I would give that award to.

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Speaker 5: I thought that I was going to come in here

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Speaker 2: Should get the award. So I'm glad that we're all

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Speaker 5: This because I just also feel like he's playing in

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Speaker 5: He's come up in clutch moments. That interception he had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a little surprised.

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Speaker 4: He's lower than I would expect it, at least in

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Speaker 4: But we're giving the award to Schwesssinger. Let's do the

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Speaker 4: I'll let you start calling. Of just there's a million

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Speaker 5: Well, you might be thinking, oh, of course she's gonna

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Speaker 2: All she does is talk about the Colts.

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Speaker 1: No, why not?

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Speaker 5: Because who is the other team I always talk about

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Speaker 4: Okay, Damn Sirianni would be a hilarious pick here. I

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Speaker 5: So let's see how he does out in Seattle. And

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00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,959
Speaker 5: he's done great. And Mike McDonald, I think, has done

448
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 5: a really good job.

449
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 6: I was talking to a coach the other week who

450
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 6: knows Mike McDonald well, and the thing that he just

451
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 6: kept saying, he was so in awe of was how

452
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 6: he constantly evolves. You can see it on the field

453
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 6: and you could see but it's a combination of evolution

454
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 6: and communication because he understands how to teach his offense.

455
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 3: He understands how.

456
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 2: To like layer it.

457
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Speaker 6: We talked about this last year with him because you

458
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 6: could start to see it progressing, especially down the backstretch

459
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 6: of last season. Defensively, you could see the little layer

460
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 6: and the progression teaching points that they were building in

461
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 6: to this group, and now it's one of the best

462
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 6: defenses in the NFL. And I think that's such a

463
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 6: credit to him and how he runs the entire operation. I, however,

464
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 6: am going to go with the guy who I predicted

465
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 6: at the beginning of the year was gonna win the

466
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Speaker 6: Coach of the Year.

467
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: Oh confirmation bias Mike Rabel. Oh yeah, yeah, such a good.

468
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Speaker 6: Because And Greg, I remember it like it was yesterday, Greg,

469
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 6: because you right fully said that market is going to

470
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 6: have crazy high expectations and he is going to have

471
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 6: to not only exceed expectations but the team in terms

472
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 6: of win loss, but the team is going to have

473
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 6: to play like a totally different team. And guess what,

474
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,959
Speaker 6: check and check both of these things are happening, and

475
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 6: it's crazy, and honestly, it's a little startling to me.

476
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Speaker 3: How we haven't seen you be more vocal and excited

477
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 3: about this. I've been it's a fear of being judged.

478
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Speaker 1: I think. No, I've been enjoying watching Drake Stoic. He's

479
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: like cly It.

480
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 4: The expectations were high, like they they had to win

481
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 4: ten or eleven games minimum for him to get chance

482
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 4: to win this. And they're seven and two, so all

483
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,479
Speaker 4: they got to do is go four and four. He

484
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 4: has a real chance. And I think the number one

485
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 4: thing that you can see that he does Number one,

486
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 4: I think he just has such great buy in. Uh.

487
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: He's great on the relationship front.

488
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Speaker 4: I think if there was a model for him as

489
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 4: a coach, it would probably be like Mike Tomlin, but

490
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 4: better in game management, which would be an awesome coach

491
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 4: if that, if we could get that, because they're really

492
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 4: good at situational football.

493
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 1: They're really good at like late.

494
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 4: In clock situations, when to be aggressive when not, Like

495
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 4: the details are really good.

496
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: He's not he's not a scheme guy.

497
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we'll see how their defense looks when they

498
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 4: play better offenses, but running the whole operation.

499
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Speaker 1: I think he's he's a great choice.

500
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 6: Yeah.

501
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: What about Sean Payton?

502
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you all No, no, no, you're good.

503
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 6: I love that you said that, because I do think

504
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 6: he should he should be in it. Dave Canalis too,

505
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Speaker 6: especially with kind of how his teams I'll get to

506
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 6: it in a minute, but how his teams have really

507
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 6: to develop a very specific personality.

508
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it.

509
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 4: I think, Wait, you're gonna talk about the Panthers, So

510
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 4: what if I do.

511
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding, So what if I do?

512
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: A lot of good candidates out there.

513
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 6: But I think with Frabel, you touched on something awesome there, Greg,

514
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 6: because I keep seeing little moments with this guy that

515
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 6: really sway me toward the EQ side of what he

516
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 6: does too.

517
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 3: And you've always heard stories about it.

518
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 6: But Drake May had a bad second third and part

519
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 6: of the fourth quarter last last week and they didn't

520
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 6: score any points in the second all but three points

521
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 6: in the second half, and he struggled to turn the

522
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 6: ball over twice. After his second turnover, Mike Frabil comes

523
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 6: over to Drake May on the sidelines where he's sitting

524
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 6: with the tablet and looks really mad, and Mike Rabel

525
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 6: puts his his sort of his forehead to forehead like

526
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 6: dad's son, kind of oh we're going to have a talk,

527
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 6: you know kind of thing, and you could tell he

528
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 6: was saying like, I got you, I believe in you.

529
00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 6: It's okay, We've got your back, and like I was like, oh, yeah.

530
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: Got it.

531
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 6: EQ was there as well, Yeah, I love that.

532
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, And Drake May said after the game too, you

533
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 4: know he appreciated that. Basically was saying, move on to

534
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 4: the next play and be confident, like we're and they

535
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: The thing I love about how they treat him is

536
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 4: they show their confidence him in him with their play calls,

537
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 4: which is like the best way to do it. When

538
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 4: they need to close out a game, they will ask

539
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 4: Drake May to do hard stuff and he delivers. Just

540
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: because I want to throw out a different name, I

541
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 4: Michael Kyle Shanahan.

542
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: Ooh, I like it, okay, interesting.

543
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: I like rewarding plans coming together.

544
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: I think Mike McDonald it would be a case for

545
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 4: him to like year two there, like it's not I

546
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 4: thought Andy Reid was the Coach of the Year last

547
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 4: year because like it's not just what he's doing that year,

548
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 4: but everything that he's built that was a bad team

549
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 4: and he somehow won fifteen games with him, Like, well,

550
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 4: what is a better example of being a good coach?

551
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 4: And so I think Kyle Shannan is kind of like

552
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 4: that too. Everything that he has built there over the

553
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 4: years and what they've overcome injury wise this year has

554
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 4: been outrageous. You can even give him a little credit

555
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 4: for having enough of a good relationship with Robert Salad to.

556
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: Get him back in the band.

557
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 4: So I just think they've overachieved, and so I throw

558
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 4: his name out there, but we do have to make

559
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: a decision, So someone has to go to the other

560
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 4: side and just like make a choice. Well, we like

561
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: and by the way, as a really good candidate.

562
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: Too, too many good candidates.

563
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, well we know Greg's not changing his I was

564
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 6: going to I was gonna just go with Mike McDonald

565
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 6: because that honestly it was where I was.

566
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: That was where I was leaning first.

567
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 3: Impressed.

568
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: Okay, what he's done.

569
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for the first half of this year

570
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 4: they have been incredibly well coached and it's a plan

571
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 4: coming together, like this show, we did it. Eric has

572
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 4: been working with the Inglewood orchestra for weeks on this

573
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 4: little Diddy here the score, and it paid off.

574
00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: We'll be back with some more awards, including MVP Award.

575
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 3: That you guys can't guess my.

576
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 4: Pick back on NFL Daily with the greatest award show

577
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 4: in the business. It's the NFL Daily Mid Season Awards.

578
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: First, Daniel.

579
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be We'll be here next year.

580
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: NFL bring us all back, you know, please, Universe, bring

581
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: us all back. Actually, I think the building's least for

582
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: a while. We're good.

583
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this actually leads perfectly, is it okay?

584
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: Do it? Give an award, Give an award?

585
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 5: Talk okay everyone, the mom and dad please stop fighting.

586
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: Award goes to YouTube TV and.

587
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 5: I need you guys to make up. We love you

588
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 5: both so much. We need to see you together again.

589
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 5: It's so difficult to watch things now. I really only

590
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 5: watch sports, and I would love to see this marriage last. Yeah,

591
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 5: we would love to see you stay together. YouTube tv

592
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 5: is so fantastic for games. I love all of the

593
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 5: quad box that you can do. I love that you

594
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 5: can have whatever you want, you can see all sorts

595
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 5: of customized things, you can you can watch games, you

596
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 5: can watch politics, you can watch, you know, cartoon shows

597
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 5: if you want, you.

598
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: Can watch whatever you want.

599
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 5: But they're really making mom and Dad are really making

600
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 5: Monday night football difficult to watch. And I just I

601
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 5: don't want to see them fight and in this pain anymore.

602
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: We can come to an agreement here.

603
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 5: You guys have done so well for so long together,

604
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 5: so please let make this relationship last.

605
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: I do hate to see Monoli the corporations fighting, you

606
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

607
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: It just it just hurts me. You could have checked

608
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: out NFL Plus.

609
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 4: I was thinking it would be funny if NFL Plus

610
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 4: was doing some counter programming, just like, hey, guys, we're here,

611
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 4: we got Monday night football.

612
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, well yeah, I know, I know it.

613
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: Get it together for the kids, guys.

614
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 4: I am a football I am a subscriber. I think

615
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: a lot of people learn that like that. They had

616
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 4: an ESPN subscription, But apparently there's some like higher tier

617
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 4: where they give you like gold you know, cuff links

618
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 4: or something, and you get to watch Monday night footballcause

619
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: somehow you have a subscription and not Monday Night Football.

620
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very strange.

621
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: I was confused about that.

622
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: There.

623
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 5: I have a lot of subscriptions I don't even know

624
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 5: what I have subscriptions to anymore.

625
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: That little award you know, might not even make it

626
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 4: to the show just because of corporations coming down on us.

627
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: Well, it's fine, I like your jobs.

628
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 6: A R.

629
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: No.

630
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 4: I agree they should make up. It is ridiculus, it's ridiculous.

631
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: Just make it happen.

632
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 4: Usually these things happen and then they just figured it

633
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 4: out quickly. And they haven't figured it out quickly Jordan.

634
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 6: Yes, Well, much like my life in general, I have

635
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 6: the I just can't quit you before. I can't imagine

636
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 6: where this goes to The Carolina Panthers.

637
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: A team who also simply won't.

638
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 6: Quit guys the way that they've battled through adversity, now

639
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 6: finding an identity playing spoiler to other teams. It's becoming

640
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 6: their identity to ruin other people's day more. Maybe teams

641
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 6: that came in with a just a higher quality perception

642
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 6: or better narrative around them. The Carolina Panthers are giving

643
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 6: them the business. The run game is off the ground

644
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 6: after finally moving to feature Rico Dubell.

645
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: We love him.

646
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 6: The defense is playing way better. These guys have a

647
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 6: little something And I always knew I was here the

648
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 6: whole time. I always knew they could do it. And

649
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 6: I'll never quit these guys.

650
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Speaker 1: Hm Analyice.

651
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: He is modeled, and he said it after Pete Carroll,

652
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 4: And there is a little.

653
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: Bit of like radical positivity.

654
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 4: Greater than the some of their part. If the Packers

655
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: are less than the some of their parts, the panthers

656
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 4: are greater.

657
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: The vibes are.

658
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 5: Fantastic, good vibes, great vibes this year compared to last year.

659
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 5: We love to see them when and I was still

660
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 5: there and I do love me and the Colts.

661
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 6: No, no, no, I can only aspire to live on

662
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 6: that timeline. Yeah no, I'm still an overeating on the

663
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 6: couch part of the Revenge body.

664
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah.

665
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 6: Ok.

666
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 4: That does indicate like a level of narcissism from Colleen

667
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 4: where she ever that I personally appreciate because.

668
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: That's what I don't you dare insult my friend?

669
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: No, I'm just that's gonna like stick with me now, No.

670
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 3: How dare you? How dare you?

671
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 6: Sir?

672
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 4: I was It's kind of like those every accusation is

673
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 4: an admission, so you know, you know what I mean?

674
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: Like that that if I'm seeing that, Okay.

675
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: Well, now you have to say something bad about yourself.

676
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: I just did.

677
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 4: That's the point, Okay, I'm going to give out death,

678
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: all right, give my final award.

679
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: And it's just the second year Leap award.

680
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 4: And you said I wasn't having enough fun talking about

681
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 4: the Patriots, But I looked around because I feel like

682
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 4: there's always a lot of time by the rookies, the rookies,

683
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: the rookies, and then you don't really look as much

684
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 4: about the second year. And I gotta say, after going

685
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 4: through last year's draft class, a lot of people are

686
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 4: on the struggle bus right now. Like overall, maybe not

687
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 4: the best draft class, and a lot of rookies, certainly

688
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 4: at quarterback but otherwise too played better last year than

689
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 4: this year. But these gentlemen all are playing better. I

690
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: think you know who the winner is going to be.

691
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 4: But I do want to give a shout out to

692
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 4: the runners up. Tanner Bordalini of the Colts, one of

693
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 4: the best centers in the league now out of nowhere

694
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 4: slot to of the Colts. Pretty quiet rookie year and

695
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: like it was really made a complete game coming off

696
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 4: a three sack game, but has had a ton of

697
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: pressure and then Tyke Smith developed into one of the

698
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 4: better slot players safeties in the league for the Bucks.

699
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: But of course it's Drake May. I mean, we didn't

700
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: even have him one quarterback Island. We weren't even really

701
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: considering it to start the year.

702
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: He's on there now.

703
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 4: I remember hearing from our guy Nick Wright that I

704
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: think we did some sort of quarterback rankings in the

705
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 4: offseason and he was at like sixteenth or seventeen. He

706
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: was like, can he just do something? Can we actually

707
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 4: see it first before we get there? And now here

708
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: we are. I think any reasonable ranking of just this

709
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: year would have him in the top five.

710
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: Maybe he's going to come up in our MVP talk.

711
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he he legitimately would be in it.

712
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 5: I mean, right, I mean, you're not wrong, he's there's

713
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 5: kind of no case the conversation.

714
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 6: And stay tuned for later this week where we all

715
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 6: have a conversation about the conversation.

716
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: I just can't believe he's leading the league and completion

717
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 4: percentage and it's not like he's dinking and dunking like

718
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 4: they're ava ex depth of targets one of the highest

719
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 4: in the league. That's quite a combination to be thrown

720
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: downfield that much and leading the league, and I can't

721
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 4: believe he's how good he is on the short stuff

722
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 4: because that was something that everyone coming into the draft

723
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 4: thought would take a little while.

724
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 6: I'm just noticing how you did not mention me in

725
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 6: year two as someone who improved.

726
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 4: Oh well, I mean, who thinks that way.

727
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: This is your year one, this is your rookie season.

728
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 5: In terms of I thought that you performed so well

729
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 5: your rookie year. I would I would have given you

730
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 5: offensive and defensive Rookie of the Year.

731
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: It just was so great.

732
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 6: The second after I said that, just the shadows passed over.

733
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: He was like, really blew this?

734
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 5: Okay, hold on, wait, while you're on the Patriots too much.

735
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 3: He's never off the page.

736
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: I will, that's true.

737
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 5: I will just throw in a quick oh wow, a

738
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 5: quick another award that maybe.

739
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 4: Eric's shaking his head. We got to get twenty five

740
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 4: minutes drs. We won't beat the break now. I'm kidding the.

741
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 5: Duo that we didn't know we needed in our lives,

742
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 5: Robert Kraft and Cardi b Oh, I'm so glad you

743
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 5: mentioned it. It is we needed it so bad, and

744
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 5: thank you you delivered, and I just I want I

745
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 5: want everying.

746
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: I want her to come to more games.

747
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 5: Yes, she said she wouldn't be coming to any games

748
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 5: until her album dropped, So I'm hoping that means she's

749
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 5: going to be coming to more games because I need

750
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 5: it all.

751
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: I love it.

752
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: And they got him a touchdown, or actually he got himself.

753
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: I got him a touchdown.

754
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: I'm saying they got it while he's there, but I

755
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 4: wouldn't didn't even say that because he caught that ball

756
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: at like the thirteen yard line and yeah, showed a

757
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 4: little juice there, getting around the edge and making it happen.

758
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: What was the song they played when he scored the touchdown?

759
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 4: Because they played a Cardi B song at Foxborough And

760
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 4: that's kind of an amazing moment. I hope it. I

761
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 4: hope it was Bodak Yellow. But you know, it could

762
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 4: have been like a new song.

763
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 5: To permot Well, it could have been, Yeah, it could

764
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 5: have been a lot of She's got a lot of bangers,

765
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 5: a lot.

766
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: Of good songs, instead of what it could it could

767
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 4: have been. You know, all right, let's move on.

768
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: I like it.

769
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: Maybe hello, fellow kids.

770
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: Very different song? What very different song? Let's fly through

771
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 4: these last ones. Offensive player of the Year, which has

772
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: kind of turned into best non outside Quarterback. That was

773
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 4: a song outside Okay from the new album.

774
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: Just closing the loop there than I appreciate it.

775
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 4: I did notice that, like her song with Migos, Drip,

776
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 4: which was like a long time favorite in the Rosenthal House,

777
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 4: is now promoting nachos.

778
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: I believe.

779
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: So it's like Velveda, I believe.

780
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right, like a dip. So what

781
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: does that mean?

782
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 4: So, I don't know what it means, but it just

783
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: means like she's getting the cheese. Yeah, everyone should get paid.

784
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 4: But I felt like that's too new of a good

785
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 4: song to be a Velveta.

786
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 2: Allowed to talk about cool stuff.

787
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: I'm old be allowed to talk period.

788
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 5: Hello, fellow kid, I'm sorry, Greg, we'd be's more.

789
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna say our generation because she's obviously much

790
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: younger than me, but I'll give give her your generation.

791
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, Cardi B is just a kid.

792
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: She's been in the mix.

793
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm I'm much older than Jordan.

794
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 4: That's fair too, I don't think so. Yeah, you and

795
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 4: Cardi B about the same.

796
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: About the same, but again, I don't believe in chronologically.

797
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 6: She's she's accomplished fifteen lifetimes worth of all.

798
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 4: Jordan, You know, Okay, I guess you were right Eric,

799
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: throughout us being able to beat this next break. Our

800
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 4: Offensive Player of the Year candidates, oh some all through

801
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 4: out there. I used to hate this award. Now I

802
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 4: just begudgingly do accept that it exists some possibilities. And

803
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 4: if any of them you wanted for MVP, sure, Jonathan Taylor,

804
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 4: m Jackson Smith and Jigba Yes, my pick same. Those

805
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 4: are probably the two leaders in the clubhouse. It's annoying

806
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 4: to talk quarterbacks here, so other players that at least

807
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 4: just deserve a little love. But John is on pace

808
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 4: for two thousand yeards from scrimmage. It's kind of like

809
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 4: we're picking on my falcons for not using him enough.

810
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: But like, that's a monster season, Puka, He's having a

811
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: great year. CMC obviously having a great year. But yeah,

812
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 4: I think it's between Taylor and JSN. You said your

813
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: pick was JSN.

814
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 3: Jordan both of ours, h.

815
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Then, I guess yeah.

816
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 6: He's he's first of all, having an historic season and

817
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 6: the parameters of the team that he plays on in

818
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 6: Seattle but also Lake league wide having an historic season.

819
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 6: He just, similar to how Jonathan Taylor does for his

820
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 6: own offense, adds this element of such a threat in

821
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 6: so many different ways in the passing game, explosive plays,

822
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 6: sort of finesse plays underneath, and has become somebody who

823
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 6: they've built their entire offensive identity as multiple as it

824
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 6: is in other areas around and through. And he's he's

825
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 6: the personality of this offense right now, and I love

826
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 6: it for them. And you could say all of these

827
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 6: same things about Jonathan Taylor, which is why I'm like

828
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 6: not mad at all. How whichever way we want to go,

829
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 6: I think both are really deserving. I just think Jackson

830
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 6: Smith and Jigba has just brought this electricity. Like you're

831
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 6: thinking about the Seahawks team as the most explosive offense,

832
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 6: which they are statistically the most explosive pass game in

833
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 6: the entire league, and on pace to be an historically

834
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 6: explosive passing game.

835
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 5: I mean October alone, like his numbers in three games

836
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 5: just insane. And I think too, this offense is sort

837
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 5: of a run first offense, and he's still able to

838
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 5: do what he does within that system, and he's leading

839
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 5: in metrics in terms of receiving yards per game and

840
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 5: what a huge stat that is. Obviously for Offensive Player

841
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 5: of the Year. I love Jsen here.

842
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: All right, He's the pick.

843
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: I mean both of them, Him and Taylor could be

844
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: in the mix for MVP in a world where you know,

845
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 4: and we can be the change that we want to

846
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 4: see in the world. If we want to vote JSN

847
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 4: for MVP, it's not that crazy. Imagine if you took

848
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: him away from that team, they would be struggling. Let's

849
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 4: hit Defense Player of the Year. I don't think there's

850
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 4: a favorite at all, so I'll actually it's kind of

851
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 4: like Coach of the Year. I'll just throw it to

852
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 4: you guys of where you want to go. It seems

853
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 4: like the linebackers are not going to really be options

854
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: this year like off ball guys, because Fred Warner got hurt,

855
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: and who is the other option that I was thinking

856
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: of that there also was an injury like Zach Bond

857
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 4: is obviously not at that level this year.

858
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: But who would you pick?

859
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: I would love to see Michael Parsons win.

860
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, the story of Kevin Lloyd got hurt.

861
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 1: That was who I was saying Yeah.

862
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 5: Like Nick Benito is another guy that would be a

863
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 5: good option a.

864
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 6: Listener or at least a follow Oh what up, Neck, Well,

865
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I'm giving you this award right now.

866
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 5: But the only reason that Michael Parsons gets the edge

867
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 5: over Benito is because I just would love for Jerry

868
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 5: Jones to see Michael Parsons win Defensive Player of the

869
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 5: Year after he was traded away from his team.

870
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: I don't think Benito's a follower though. I think I

871
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 4: just got retweeted with some hate into his time.

872
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 6: Well happened, Greg had a moment. Yeah, But you know what,

873
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 6: we love him. We talk about him constantly, We love

874
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 6: him to death. So if he did listen, he would

875
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 6: be on the then I think be on the right

876
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 6: side of history in that front. But I was going

877
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 6: to go with Aiden Hutchinson as much as I love

878
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 6: the story here of Michael Parsons, and I think very

879
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 6: much he could run away with this on second half

880
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 6: of the season, But up until now, it's not just

881
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 6: Aiden Hutchinson quite clearly, like changing the entire aspect of

882
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 6: what this defense is capable of, and and his return

883
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 6: being so impactful schematically and really bringing this like gravitas

884
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 6: and ferociousness to a group that's already very well coached

885
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 6: despite the injuries that they had on the back end.

886
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 3: It's also like such a.

887
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 6: Great emotional story coming back from how horrific that injury was. Yeah,

888
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 6: and I want to give him this because I am

889
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 6: so annoyed year after year by the Comeback Player of

890
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 6: the Year award when somebody who died on the football

891
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 6: field did not get it after coming back to life

892
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 6: and playing in another NFL football game. And so I

893
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 6: am so annoyed by that award in general. And I

894
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 6: don't want people to say, oh, we can't choose between

895
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 6: Micah Parsons and Aiden Hutchinson, and so we're just gonna

896
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 6: give you know, Micah Parsons Defensive Player of the Year,

897
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 6: and we still have a category for Aiden Hutchinson and like,

898
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 6: no win it definitively And I think, Aiden Hutchinson.

899
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, come back when this award. I'm done with Comeback

900
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 4: Player of the Year too. That's why I didn't even

901
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: bring it up on this one, Thank God, I would.

902
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 4: I just want to make it most improved, do what

903
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 4: most improved award? Most improved would be a great award.

904
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 4: NBA has that, and that's just like who got better

905
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. That would be a great one. I mean,

906
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 4: like may would be an option for that, although you

907
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 4: would probably want to avoid the tip like guys in

908
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 4: the second year. I think I'd probably go with my

909
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett right now, just because I I just think

910
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 4: he's the best player. I think he might be the

911
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 4: best football player.

912
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at any of these honestly, and if but.

913
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 4: The numbers, the numbers really aren't quite there. I mean

914
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 4: they are with sacks, but in terms of total pressures,

915
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 4: Hutchinson actually is leading the pack by a decent amount.

916
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 4: Will Anderson's had a great year. I think those would

917
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: be probably the top five options. Would you include Benito

918
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 4: and hutch We got to break a tie, though, so

919
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 4: go with hutch Yeah.

920
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna go hutch too. I think that wins

921
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett.

922
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 4: It's more like he's turned into maybe the best run

923
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 4: defender in the league two and that's part like he

924
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 4: is just they're just changing every opposing offense has to

925
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: just change everything they do because of him. But hug

926
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 4: get it done, all right, m VP, All right, here's

927
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 4: my list. The thing that I think is going to

928
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 4: be key about the conversation and we're going to hit

929
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: this more on west. This isn't this isn't about who's

930
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 4: gonna win the MVP. It's just who's been the best

931
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 4: so far. There is no obvious choice. I think any

932
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 4: one of like eight guys could win, and actually there's

933
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 4: no one that's particularly ahead of the pack. That's my opinion,

934
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 4: and I would I'm not do it listing in any

935
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 4: order here. I think any if we're giving it to

936
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: a quarterback, any of the following quarterbacks would make sense

937
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 4: to me. Darnold Stafford, Josh Allen, Drake May, Daniel Jones,

938
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes. You can't really tell me that one of

939
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 4: those guys is way ahead of the others.

940
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 5: You're missing seven. I thought that's what you were going

941
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 5: to say. No, you say what you're going to say. No,

942
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 5: I was letting him know they're all point yes, we're

943
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 5: all pointing at each other.

944
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: What are we going to say?

945
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 6: I was just going to say, there's only one of

946
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 6: these good players who's doing this at thirty seven years old,

947
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 6: who's in this caliber of the conversation. Matthew Stafford twenty

948
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 6: one touchdown passes, two hundred and sixty eight point four

949
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 6: yards per game, two interceptions all season. It's incredible watching

950
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 6: what he's doing. The Immortal Chamber really did its job

951
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 6: because at thirty seven, let me just forget at thirty

952
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 6: seven years old, Matthew Stafford is having maybe one of

953
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 6: his best seasons in his entire career.

954
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 5: All Right, you got me with the only one that's

955
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 5: doing this at thirty seven. Because I was watching him

956
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 5: and just the way that the ball comes out of

957
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 5: his hands, and it's just so beautiful, like art. It's

958
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 5: like a choreography of watching him in the offense play

959
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 5: and yeah, this level of play. I almost feel like

960
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 5: people forget about him because he's one of the older

961
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the conversation. He gets left out of the

962
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 5: conversation and one thousand percent should be in it. He's

963
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 5: played so well consistently all season, and I feel like

964
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 5: the thing with him is always always back, like in

965
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 5: training camp and every like, if he does get hurt,

966
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 5: it's like, well, he's old, it's a bad back.

967
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do?

968
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: But that doesn't seem to be a problem this year

969
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 2: at all. He looks great.

970
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 6: It's also like the tail of two MVP Most Valuable Player,

971
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 6: the Tale of Two Seasons. If that really was going

972
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 6: to be something that was the issue coming into the

973
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 6: regular season, this RAMS team is not here. They are

974
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 6: not doing this. They are not having the type of

975
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 6: production they are. He is their A plus plan and

976
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 6: he always was and because they know that he not

977
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 6: only can play like this, but he also elevates everyone

978
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 6: else around him to the point where it's an entirely

979
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 6: different team and outlook.

980
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: When he's not on the.

981
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: Field, you never know.

982
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 4: I know he has the back injury, but like Tom

983
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 4: Brady still had like four top two finishes in MVP

984
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 4: to go after thirty seven, you never know. I wouldn't

985
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 4: pick Stafford just be it's just you're picking Harris splitting hairs. Rather,

986
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 4: Donald would be my pick so far just because the

987
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: numbers are just way better.

988
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I love that you said that. Yeah, he

989
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: would be my pick so far.

990
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 4: I think Josh Allen and May and Joanes like I

991
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 4: Basically I am just repeating myself. All those guys I

992
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 4: think are pretty close to each other, including Stafford. But

993
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 4: Donald's numbers are pretty overwhelming. And that's where like Stafford,

994
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 4: for instance, he's not giving you anything running and the

995
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: advanced stuff is not as good for Stafford where he's like,

996
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 4: you know, eighth to tenth and epa p for playing

997
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 4: success right, all that stuff where you know, Donald's far

998
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 4: and away like one in a lot of those and

999
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 4: it's just the eye test he had that moment. Granted

1000
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 4: they lost to the Bucks, but I'm kind of thinking

1001
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 4: a moment in the year, Who's given me more moments

1002
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 4: like that the first half against the Commanders that was

1003
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 4: a moment. That Bucks game for Donald was a moment where.

1004
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: Think Stafford has given you moments.

1005
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: I think they've lost and he hasn't.

1006
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to pick between them, but yeah,

1007
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: they've lost their two biggest games of the year to

1008
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 4: the Colts and Eagles, where it was kind of like uneven,

1009
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 4: like if I mean not lost, they beat the Colts my.

1010
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: Bad, or is it because it's been.

1011
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: The third thing?

1012
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, to see Donald play the way that he has,

1013
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 5: and it's almost like we've we've become accustomed to watching

1014
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford be a really, really great quarterback for a

1015
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 5: while now.

1016
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: So you kind of like he gets lost in the

1017
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: sauce a little.

1018
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: Bit because of that.

1019
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 4: I was thinking of the forty nine ers game in press,

1020
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 4: but he was good at like he's been good in

1021
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 4: these games anyway. That's what I mean splitting hairs, because

1022
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 4: I think it's honestly just you could make justice strong

1023
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 4: case for Josh Allen overall, and May wouldn't be like

1024
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: too far off either. The biggest thing gets him is

1025
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 4: just the competition.

1026
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 6: It just made me so happy to hear you talk

1027
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 6: about Sam Donald in that way, because it's true, I mean, honestly,

1028
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 6: and if you're gonna go it's it's it is splitting hairs.

1029
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 6: If you're gonna go moment to moment, or you're gonna

1030
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 6: go stat by stat by spat stat you can argue

1031
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 6: some for some and others for others, and it would

1032
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 6: just be like a vastly shifting chart and scale. And

1033
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 6: so for me, just in my gut, now I'm gonna

1034
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 6: pick Matthew Stafford. But if both of you want Donald,

1035
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 6: I am not mad at it, and I'll come with

1036
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 6: you on it and with a full support, because I

1037
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 6: just love that for Sam Donald.

1038
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 5: If so it's up to Colleen, then okay, see Ellen,

1039
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 5: I know he's flipped it on. I I just you know,

1040
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 5: what we talked about manifesting a little bit. I don't

1041
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 5: even know if that was on the show or if

1042
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 5: that was before the show, but I would love to

1043
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 5: manifest this for Sam Donald. Oh yeah, because whatever redemption

1044
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 5: story this would be for him, he's been He's already

1045
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 5: had all of these chapters. But to have the success

1046
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 5: he had last year and then get traded away and

1047
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 5: then how the same success and go on to win

1048
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 5: an MVP would just be.

1049
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: Such a chef's kiss.

1050
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 4: Well, you know what you do, Avenge body. He doesn't

1051
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 4: even need to go on to win an MVP, he

1052
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 4: just won it. The half season MVP from NFL Daily

1053
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 4: played the music. Sam Darnold, Congratulations. I don't want to

1054
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 4: be weird about it, but it's kind of nice to

1055
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 4: give him the award because I feel like Stafford's Maybe

1056
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: if I was predicting, okay, Stafford might be more likely

1057
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 4: to get the end of the season.

1058
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: Awards, but who knows. You know, what a what a moment. Congratulations.

1059
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 5: You could just turn this music on and I'll forget

1060
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 5: whatever we were talking about, or in a happy.

1061
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 4: Mood, congratulations to everyone who came pai.

1062
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: We don't know it.

1063
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 4: NFL Honors let's jam in our Thursday night football. Quickly

1064
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 4: we got the Raiders and the Broncos. A little bit

1065
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: of an anti climax here, but the Raiders in prime

1066
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 4: time coming off maybe their best performance of the season,

1067
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 4: certainly on offense. You know, it took until the fourth

1068
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 4: quarter to get going, but ultimately I was looking at

1069
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 4: like the numbers of like the best passing performances from

1070
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 4: a week ago, top five, and I was like, oh,

1071
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 4: Gino Smith is on there at number four with four touchdowns.

1072
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 4: And I don't know if it was the Jaguars defense

1073
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: or what. We'll find out because this is a brutal

1074
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 4: matchup against a great Broncos defense.

1075
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 3: Do you know what's kind of interesting?

1076
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 6: So the Raiders now are going to be a full

1077
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 6: twelve personnel offense, and they showed that this last week

1078
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 6: and against the Jaguars. Especially Brock Bauers being back is

1079
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 6: so huge. What was interesting was they ran several of

1080
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 6: the Ram's own twelve personnel plays that they previously ran

1081
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 6: against the Jaguars in London against the Jaguars again, including

1082
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 6: a touchdown from the goal line out of a heavy

1083
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 6: personnel look that was almost like tape like moment for

1084
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 6: moment tape the same thing, and that's smart. You got

1085
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 6: to find edges. You got to figure out ways to

1086
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 6: win with the personnel that that's working for you. And

1087
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 6: Brock Bauers being back allows them to do that and

1088
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 6: to stay in that very dynamic, heavier personnel and give

1089
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 6: Gino Smith bigger targets, especially with all the zone that

1090
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 6: they're seeing, giving him bigger targets within those zones.

1091
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, this will be the first time that we're seeing

1092
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 5: the Raiders offense without Jacobi Myers, so everything is going

1093
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 5: to run through Brock Bowers, So that's obviously going to

1094
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 5: be interesting just to see how that goes with the

1095
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 5: Broncos secondary.

1096
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: The Broncos have just been one of those teams this year.

1097
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 5: The Broncos and the Patriots have both won six straight

1098
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 5: games to unexpectedly like lead their division with second year quarterbacks.

1099
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 5: It's just been really cool to watch. But for Sean

1100
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 5: Payton and Bonicks, this is going to be a spotlight

1101
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 5: game for them just because they're going to be able

1102
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 5: to show off.

1103
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 4: I think yeah, they should. This Raiders defense just does

1104
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 4: not have enough talent. Pete Carroll has not come up

1105
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 4: with answers and they end up giving up four straight

1106
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 4: scoring drives to the Jaguars. Like that their offense finally

1107
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 4: showed up and the defense couldn't get one stopped against

1108
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 4: the Jaguars in the fourth quarter or overtime of that game.

1109
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 4: And you know, the Broncos are favored by eight and

1110
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 4: a half, but who knows bo Nicks. Like so far

1111
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 4: this season, the Broncos offense is sixteenth in DVA in

1112
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 4: efficiency and the defense is three, which of you had

1113
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 4: said before the start of the season. It's like, not

1114
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 4: that shocking, but watching Knicks really struggle like early in

1115
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 4: games so often has been a little surprising to me.

1116
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 4: So this, like a lot of Raiders games, should feel

1117
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 4: like a okay, just feel better about everything after this week,

1118
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 4: Like create open receivers for him and don't wait till

1119
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter to start hitting them, because he has

1120
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 4: missed a lot of Troy Franklin and Evan Ingram and

1121
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 4: Cortland's down the field.

1122
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, agreed, And I like when they get him into

1123
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 6: a rhythm early, you know that they're going to want

1124
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 6: to keep trying to run the ball. I have had

1125
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 6: some success with that, developed more of an identity there,

1126
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 6: and you know, I think if we get an even Bonnicks,

1127
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 6: get even like not negative plays, not making mistakes or

1128
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 6: forcing throws in an even bon Nicks game, and the

1129
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 6: same caliber of game that we are accustomed to seeing

1130
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 6: from this defense, they should have no problem with the Raiders.

1131
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 6: But when you suddenly change your dynamic or your dominant

1132
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 6: personnel in the middle of a season like this, it

1133
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 6: is really tough for teams to adjust to it. When

1134
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 6: they've looked at all of your tape previously and it

1135
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 6: was not this thing. You only have one game of

1136
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 6: tape of what you're gonna be moving forward. That's really

1137
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 6: really tough, and I think it does throw a wrench

1138
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 6: into this.

1139
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 4: And brock Powers is just so he's a freak. It

1140
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 4: was so nice to see him back to rookie brock

1141
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 4: Bowers because I have never seen a tight end move

1142
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 4: that fast like with the ball in his hands. And

1143
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 4: Gino Swift hit him in stride a couple times, and

1144
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 4: I thought Ashton Denty coming off the buy had a

1145
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 4: little more juice and played really well last week. Gin

1146
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 4: had a few more deep throws. So if you're looking

1147
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 4: for something positive, that can happen, and then you're just

1148
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 4: hoping for a bone frits out. Like there was this

1149
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 4: one play where he stepped up in the pocket last week.

1150
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: Late in the game.

1151
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 4: He's got it's totally wide open in front of him,

1152
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 4: and he decides to like jump and throw a sidearm

1153
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 4: on a third and thirteen and he missed it by

1154
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 4: like six yards and I was just thinking, like, why

1155
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 4: did you jump and throw it sidear Why not?

1156
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: I guess I'm just kidding.

1157
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: That's for Patrick Mahomes.

1158
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 4: Okay, Raiders are going to Denver and yeah, the Broncos

1159
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: are eight and a half point favorites. We'll be recapping

1160
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 4: that meat and Shook and we'll add something fun and

1161
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 4: spicy to make it even better just in case it'll

1162
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 4: blow out, because it absolutely could be. This was the

1163
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 4: award show to end all award shows.

1164
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to do death metal.

1165
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: For Colleen Wood. Yeah, it's Jay Rock, let's go. We'll

1166
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: see it for the previous show.

1167
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 2: Tool, I can't

1168
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 3: Believe that what I love Tools