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<v Speaker 1>So I think I always start these Park Copper episodes

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<v Speaker 1>by saying we have a very special episode, which makes

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<v Speaker 1>it sound like it's in eighty sitcom that always does

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<v Speaker 1>the very special episodes. But because all these episodes are

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<v Speaker 1>very special, and man, do we have one today for.

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<v Speaker 2>It just so lucky to get the coolest ones. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just yeah, this is big, this is big.

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<v Speaker 1>We're lucky to get anybody, is how I look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're lucky to get anybody. But with some of the

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<v Speaker 1>people we've gotten, it's amazing. And we often hear people saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I really like the ones where we talk to the

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<v Speaker 1>actors because you get that point of view. I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people saying, oh, I like when you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to the writers. But when we get somebody like

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<v Speaker 1>we have today who's helped to kind of craft the

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<v Speaker 1>world a little bit, I mean, has been responsible or

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, one of the people most directly responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for some of the biggest names in the entire history

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<v Speaker 1>of decoms.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's not Haryperberly. I mean literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally has worked with so many I mean, if there's

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<v Speaker 2>ten of them, this guy's worked with nine of them.

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<v Speaker 2>He is seriously, he is literally just I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>gets and what I love and you'll see when you

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<v Speaker 2>meet him.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he's so humble and so just. He loves what

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<v Speaker 4>he does. He loves it. He absolutely enjoys every aspect

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<v Speaker 4>so well.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot wait to get the dish on certain movies like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know Luck of the Irish. Oh yeah, jump

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<v Speaker 1>in Eddie's Million Dollar Cookoff.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's what redd and weep? Oh do we

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<v Speaker 3>mention the entire Zombies franchise and.

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<v Speaker 4>Still going pretty much has not slowed down.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there was another one I'm missing that nobody

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<v Speaker 1>watched some other something about the cats or girls.

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<v Speaker 3>I chet a girls one World as well.

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<v Speaker 4>One. Yeah, few people did watch that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Your old friend is joining us today, so I'm like, one,

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<v Speaker 1>I love these because I'll ask a couple questions, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to sit back and watch two old friends talk.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait. So this is going to be so cool,

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<v Speaker 3>So everybody, please please please.

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<v Speaker 1>A big welcome for one of the coolest guests we've

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<v Speaker 1>ever had, Director Paul Howan.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, Hi, how are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, Thank you so much for joining us. Sabrina

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<v Speaker 1>has been singing your praises since we started this podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>More than kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, as I was texting back and forth with you,

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, cause I guess I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of have a few years right of when I

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<v Speaker 2>was part of the channel of what I was involved

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<v Speaker 2>in and got some of the names of the dcoms

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<v Speaker 2>you did prior, but had no idea all of that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, your list is just ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you have worked with every major star I swear

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<v Speaker 2>from the channel in one of these movies, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times, I'm sure it's amazing for you to

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<v Speaker 2>watch them after because you kind of start like you're

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<v Speaker 2>there when they're starting these huge careers that they end

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<v Speaker 2>up having. So I mean, and anyone that we have got,

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<v Speaker 2>we've gotten to do quite a bit of zombies of

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<v Speaker 2>those actors who've got to talk to them.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked to Corbyn Blue.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, everyone just praises how fun you are to

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<v Speaker 2>be on set with, how awesome of a director you are,

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<v Speaker 2>and just your vision is something that they talk about

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<v Speaker 2>every single time, which I love because I walked on

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<v Speaker 2>a few of the sets of The Cheetah Girls One World,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like, how did he see this like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, it's giant, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so good.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, thank you so much for gracing us with

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<v Speaker 2>your presence.

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<v Speaker 6>Paul, Wow, thank you for that movie, because that was

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<v Speaker 6>the first movie I think that I dealt with kids

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<v Speaker 6>that were a little bit older.

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<v Speaker 5>So we could go to the after hours hotel.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yes, Oh, I can't wait to hear those and

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<v Speaker 6>commiserate over.

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<v Speaker 4>Our It was different.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean I remember drinking warm or lukewarm, at

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<v Speaker 2>least vodka sodas as well.

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<v Speaker 4>You and I were drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Because then you don't drink ice and you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>ice in your drinks.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just like it couldn't do it very many.

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<v Speaker 2>It just was I don't know. The life we had

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<v Speaker 2>there was absolutely wild.

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<v Speaker 5>And you guys were tough. I mean, you were there.

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<v Speaker 6>It was not an easy shooting experience, at least what

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<v Speaker 6>I recall. No, I showed up day in and day out,

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<v Speaker 6>and I remember when the guy's hair caught on fire

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<v Speaker 6>and you walked up to me and went, Paul, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>going to go blind with the.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait a minute, we got all right, so we've

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<v Speaker 1>got let's start at the beginning. Because I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get to obviously, we've got to end with guys hair

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<v Speaker 1>on fire. Right, How did you get into this side

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<v Speaker 1>of the industry? I mean, had you worked for Disney

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<v Speaker 1>at the start of your career or can you take

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<v Speaker 1>us back to the beginning.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 6>I was working on a show called Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I was just a PA and I wanted I had

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<v Speaker 6>gone to school to be a director, but you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you get out and you kind of like, I got

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<v Speaker 6>to learn to make coffee and make sanwiches correctly, right,

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<v Speaker 6>and so, and I when I finally got good at that,

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<v Speaker 6>I got on this show called Kids Incorporated, and I

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<v Speaker 6>was an ad and I moved my way up to

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<v Speaker 6>directing a few of them. And then that gentleman Tommy Lynch,

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<v Speaker 6>who I owe a lot to, did a show called

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<v Speaker 6>The Secret World of Alex Mack, which was a single

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<v Speaker 6>cameras show at Nickelodeon. And so I I was haunting

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<v Speaker 6>Nickelodeon for a while and doing those single cameras shows,

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<v Speaker 6>and Disney was just starting and they wanted to do

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<v Speaker 6>similar type shows. So when Rich Ross and a whole

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<v Speaker 6>bunch of people that were at Nickelodeon moved over to Disney.

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<v Speaker 6>I you know, got moved over to Disney too, and

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<v Speaker 6>did a lot of those single camera Disney shows like

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<v Speaker 6>Shias Show and Stevens and.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, a whole bunch of them.

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<v Speaker 6>And then they wanted to do these movies and they

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<v Speaker 6>needed somebody who knew how to work with kids on

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<v Speaker 6>these movies and bring them in on time and budget.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think the first movie I did was Lucky

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<v Speaker 6>the Irish and Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Ryan Merriman turning into to Now. We rated it high.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we rate all our movies. We rated it high.

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<v Speaker 1>We thought it was a little odd that the thing

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<v Speaker 1>they were having trouble telling him was that he was Irish. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they finally sat him down and say, yes, son, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>you're Irish.

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<v Speaker 4>Why a secret? Why is it so horrible?

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<v Speaker 6>Tell him that he was eleprechn which I got a

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<v Speaker 6>different type of Irish. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny that you're you're bringing back names for

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<v Speaker 1>my past because I was original. I was an old

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<v Speaker 1>school Nickelodeon kid back in the eighties, and Rich Ross

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<v Speaker 1>was was very important in my early career. When I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I got slimed up on the original You can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that on television set.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So so the the old school Nickelodeon then moving to

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<v Speaker 1>Disney is very similar. But you I mean, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the best shows on both networks. If you're talking kids

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<v Speaker 1>in court, it just seems like wherever you are the

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<v Speaker 1>future stars of all of Hollywood Army.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I don't know if it's me, but I'll take

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<v Speaker 7>I did my part and and you know, I definitely

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<v Speaker 7>was a teacher and I think and helped those I think,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, everybody has it comes to the table with

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<v Speaker 7>a certain amount of talent that I can't really teach.

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<v Speaker 5>But I can go, hey, here's where this is the

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<v Speaker 5>aspect where you're awesome and you go with this because

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<v Speaker 5>this is your star power right here.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think that was And of course there's technical

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<v Speaker 6>things which I learned along the way.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm a big kid, I'm old, but I'm still.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the same way I always tell Sabrina, I

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<v Speaker 1>live my life by the rule that there's a very

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<v Speaker 1>big difference between childish and childlike.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So okay, so then when you moved then to.

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<v Speaker 1>Disney from Nickelodeon, did you notice a big difference in

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<v Speaker 1>production style between the two different networks.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the one thing which I really loved about

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<v Speaker 6>Disney is that it's a little bit more girl focused.

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<v Speaker 6>And when I say girl focused, I think it's just

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<v Speaker 6>a more of a gentle hearted type. Like I think

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<v Speaker 6>girls are a little bit more sophisticated at that age.

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<v Speaker 5>As far as story goes.

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<v Speaker 6>And being empathetic to characters and and so for me,

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<v Speaker 6>like for Nickelodeon, there's like, you know, big gags and

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<v Speaker 6>sweat and slime and you know, and all this kind

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<v Speaker 6>of stuff. But really for something to be successful on

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<v Speaker 6>the channel, it has to be sort of appealing to

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<v Speaker 6>the heart. Like I always talk about the suffering soul, right,

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<v Speaker 6>Like these lead characters are not They're going through I

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<v Speaker 6>Am an aspirational journey, but they're not really enjoying themselves

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<v Speaker 6>on the way. Like there's struggles and there's conflicts and

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<v Speaker 6>how do I you know, how do I.

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<v Speaker 5>Be who I really am and what my father wants

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<v Speaker 5>me to be?

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<v Speaker 6>Or you know, I part of this group musical group,

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<v Speaker 6>but somebody else wants me and should I be part

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<v Speaker 6>of that?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 6>So how do I navigate life? I think is something

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<v Speaker 6>that Disney does well. I'm not sure that there are

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<v Speaker 6>shows on Nickelodeon that touch on that, but I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think that's their primary focus. It's comedy and and right

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<v Speaker 6>hop and gags and things like that, you know, which

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<v Speaker 6>I've done a lot of and I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's got its place.

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<v Speaker 2>It is one thing we say over and over again

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<v Speaker 2>as we're watching this movie is that Disney knows how

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<v Speaker 2>to put across a storyline and a message like no

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<v Speaker 2>one else we've seen, especially when it's gearing towards this

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<v Speaker 2>age demo. So even if you know, maybe Will and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily relate to it, we can relate to

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<v Speaker 2>it on where the character is because it's such a

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<v Speaker 2>good message. You know, even if it's not the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>movie that's been made, it really is a good message

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<v Speaker 2>behind it. And you know, we we love that about Disney.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I really, honestly, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>watched Nickelodeon. But now that I've done all this, like

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<v Speaker 2>everything about Nickelodeon has blown out of my head and

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<v Speaker 2>it's deep dark, deep dark closet that I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>even really remember except for you know, a few of

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<v Speaker 2>the shows. But again I remember them just being really funny,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm just like laughing the whole time. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember a lot of messaging happening on Nickelodeon, so that

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<v Speaker 2>makes a lot of sense. Okay, So I got to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you, though, we're talking about Luck of the Irish,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know just from the time on the channel,

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<v Speaker 2>how hard it is to get the budgets to like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like, do you an you want me to Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you want me to pull this off, but you want

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<v Speaker 2>me to pull this off with how much?

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<v Speaker 4>How did you do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't think at that point Luck of the

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<v Speaker 2>Irish had big budgets quite yet.

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<v Speaker 5>Up to that point did not?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, how do you make that woman so tiny?

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<v Speaker 6>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>How did you do it with the budget that you

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<v Speaker 2>guys were given? I mean, and it looked great everything

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<v Speaker 2>that we saw in the movie.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole top, Yeah, the whole sure, for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I think just in general, that's something that I'm really

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<v Speaker 6>good at as far as saying, Okay, it's going to

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<v Speaker 6>cost us this amount to do this, Is this really

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<v Speaker 6>worth it?

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<v Speaker 5>Or would we rather not spend it on this?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 6>So if you look at the basketball sequence, for example,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the camera's awfully high.

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<v Speaker 5>And you don't really see a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>Of crowd right, so because there's not a lot because

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<v Speaker 6>in the beginning days Disney was very focused and and

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<v Speaker 6>not it kind of went wayward as.

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<v Speaker 5>As it went along a little bit more, but it

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<v Speaker 5>was like, how are we going to do that?

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<v Speaker 6>You get this many extra you get this package of

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<v Speaker 6>toys and that's all you get, and and how are

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<v Speaker 6>we gonna you know, you know, do this and I

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to get it onto cheater girls. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, it's the same thing where I got off

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<v Speaker 6>the plane and was looking at Udaipor and went like, holy,

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<v Speaker 6>where is a Disney Channel movie in this place? You know,

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<v Speaker 6>because it was like a sob laden's like compound.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait to see this one. I haven't so I'm watching

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<v Speaker 3>it order. I haven't seen it yet.

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<v Speaker 4>It won't look like but I'm just.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying I haven't seen I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen Cheatahirls one, and we're kind of watching as

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<v Speaker 1>we go because again I'm a little too old for

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<v Speaker 1>some of the dcoms. But uh, well, that's the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I've noticed is that if if something is a

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<v Speaker 1>good project. Again, I think this shows a difference between

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<v Speaker 1>Nickelodeon and Disney, and I thin here one hundred percent right,

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<v Speaker 1>Nickelodeon and its content has its place, and it's a wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful little niche that it has. That being said, the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's wonderful about a well done movie, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what age it's for, is there's always somebody to root

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<v Speaker 1>for or someone you can see yourself in. So now

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm older, I can identify more with the parent characters,

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<v Speaker 1>the adult characters, and I think that's a fun way

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<v Speaker 1>of going.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, when they hand you one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of these dcom scripts, I mean again, I know there's

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<v Speaker 1>a very big difference between say A read it and

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<v Speaker 1>weep and a Zombies. Is the first thing that's going

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<v Speaker 1>through your mind, okay, casting it properly, or is the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing that's going through your mind budgeting it properly?

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<v Speaker 5>Neither?

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<v Speaker 6>I think the first thing that's going through my mind

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<v Speaker 6>is Okay, who's the lead? Hopefully it's clear what's the story,

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<v Speaker 6>what's at stake, and are we dramatizing that story the

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<v Speaker 6>best we possibly can, Because you know, I can throw

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of bells and whistles at things, fire and

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<v Speaker 6>whatever effects. But if I'm not like, if you're not,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't keep watching these movies because of oh wow, there.

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<v Speaker 5>Was a big explosion.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just not It's not why you watch it because

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<v Speaker 6>you're engaged in that character and.

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<v Speaker 5>You want to know.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm looking at the script and I'm going, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>how oh this is what this person is going through?

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<v Speaker 6>Are we doing the best situations to highlight.

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<v Speaker 5>The journey that this person is going to?

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<v Speaker 6>And I just think if you have kids and you

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<v Speaker 6>watch them watch these movies, they all they do is

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<v Speaker 6>look at the character's eyes and what's going on inside

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<v Speaker 6>their head as the movie's going on. You just look

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<v Speaker 6>at all these kids. I think, you know, I watched

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<v Speaker 6>my own kids as they were growing up, watching them.

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<v Speaker 6>I've seen it a hundred times. We're all focused on oh,

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<v Speaker 6>wardrobe and hair and makeup and steps, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Disney is like on it forever. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>what's going on in the face of this kid, in

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<v Speaker 6>this kid's eyes and all the techniques that I do.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm focusing on what are you thinking about? Now? What

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<v Speaker 5>are you afraid of? Who are you as a person?

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<v Speaker 6>Because these kids, they see you getting hurt and they

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<v Speaker 6>they want you to they root for you and that's

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<v Speaker 6>why they and they keep watching because they get to

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<v Speaker 6>the end and it's ninety minutes. Not a long period

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<v Speaker 6>of time, but boy, a movie that doesn't have that

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<v Speaker 6>ninety minutes can seem like an eternity, and it canad

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<v Speaker 6>We've gone through the eternity before.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we know that, we know what that drudge can

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<v Speaker 1>be like, it can be pretty uh pretty grooel yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, So so you want the music and you want

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<v Speaker 6>the heart and then after that, you know, writers love

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<v Speaker 6>to write crazy things and then it's kind of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>this is cool.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we can make this look good. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think we can make this look good, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I don't think a lot of the stuff

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<v Speaker 6>we did with Ryan was you know, raising other people

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<v Speaker 6>on apple boxes and there was really a low budget

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<v Speaker 6>kind of making his clothes bigger, kind of the legs

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<v Speaker 6>off of or raising the dresser up and he's like

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<v Speaker 6>below it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>So there's a lot of little tricks that are in

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<v Speaker 6>that movie.

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<v Speaker 3>That the giant seatbelt. Then you make a giant seat belt.

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<v Speaker 6>We made a giant shoe, you know, we did a

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<v Speaker 6>we a giant metal you know, things that were sort

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<v Speaker 6>of old school that you would have been done before

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<v Speaker 6>visual effects. We you know, we did there, But really

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<v Speaker 6>what's great about that movie is just Ryan and those

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<v Speaker 6>those kids, you know, they they they just committed and

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<v Speaker 6>and they were funny. And So there's one movie where

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<v Speaker 6>that I watched that I definitely don't have a sense

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<v Speaker 6>of me, which I think is a big, a big

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<v Speaker 6>thing to happen in a movie.

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<v Speaker 5>When it gets to the point where.

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<v Speaker 6>You're like, oh, I don't remember that, or or I'm

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<v Speaker 6>engaged in something that I didn't really remember, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>or was part of, then you really know that the

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<v Speaker 6>movie has sort of taken on a life of its own,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's not just you know, you say this line,

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<v Speaker 6>look here, do this or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>At what point or what movie I guess once you

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<v Speaker 2>started getting into because it seems like they just started.

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<v Speaker 4>You went from there to I think it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Read It and Weep was shortly after that, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you've got you know, Eddie's Million Dollar Cookoff and jump

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<v Speaker 2>in all these different ones. At what point were you going, man,

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<v Speaker 2>like I am the go to guy for Disney, like

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<v Speaker 2>I am shooting, I am doing all of these movies.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe like last year, I think there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>I think there's a lot of times where people go, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>don't you want to do this or don't you want

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<v Speaker 6>to do that?

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<v Speaker 5>But the thing I love.

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<v Speaker 6>Is working and making movies and trying things and trying

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<v Speaker 6>to make it the best that's possible. And I've never

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<v Speaker 6>been All of those movies have drama to.

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<v Speaker 5>Them, you know that. You know, there's not a movie

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<v Speaker 5>that doesn't have a story.

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<v Speaker 6>Of behind the scenes craziness. Sometimes it's with the network,

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<v Speaker 6>sometimes it's cash related, all the it's not really often

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<v Speaker 6>cast related, but you know, there's always and I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>very passionate about the project. And I think for a

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<v Speaker 6>while it was like, oh, I can't do it with

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<v Speaker 6>these guys anymore. And then finally I realized, like, you

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<v Speaker 6>know what, I'm fricking lucky, Like I like, I make

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<v Speaker 6>a movie and now it's I'm still hanging in there, miraculously.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't really know how.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's just I get to make a movie sometimes

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<v Speaker 6>two a year, and I really get to shape this

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<v Speaker 6>thing and it's completely satisfied. At the time, it's like

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<v Speaker 6>horrifying and there's like, oh my god, this is this

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<v Speaker 6>is going to be a disaster and what am I

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<v Speaker 6>going to do? And fighting with you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 6>Gary marsh and I had many like arguments, although I

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<v Speaker 6>respect the.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, sure anyone, but of course there was like.

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<v Speaker 6>Arguments of this sometimes that this might be the last

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<v Speaker 6>movie I'm ever gonna do ridiculous over this up drama.

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<v Speaker 6>But then somehow you end up waking up and you go, well,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I had a career, and I think I

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<v Speaker 6>would not have traded I know that I would not

0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:14.080
<v Speaker 6>have traded it for for anything, because you can do whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, some Harry Potter movie or whatever. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>that's pretty famous.

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<v Speaker 5>But and you do.

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<v Speaker 6>There four of them in the life of that that

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<v Speaker 6>you know you have and I've done you know, over

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<v Speaker 6>twenty I think at this point, and I think I

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<v Speaker 6>always feel like I'm going to do it better next time,

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<v Speaker 6>or I this was bad and I'm going to make

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<v Speaker 6>sure that I don't fall into that trap again.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that's the sign of that TRR artist, never

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<v Speaker 1>never being, never being happy.

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<v Speaker 6>I just I just want to be better and do better.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, now I'm they've changed everybody.

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<v Speaker 5>At the channel. Basically there's nobody that's nobody, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, and and you know, I'm going, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we tried that once before.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, and I'm trying to like gently lead

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<v Speaker 6>them to you know, you think you want that, but

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<v Speaker 6>let me tell you.

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<v Speaker 5>Really because we tried it. We tried a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I'm curious, were you ever over your career,

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<v Speaker 1>and again we've talked about the films you've done. Were

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<v Speaker 1>you ever handed a script for a dcom and you're like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not doing it, not going to do this one, don't

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<v Speaker 1>like it, not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, twice.

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<v Speaker 6>Well once I was like the first time I didn't.

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<v Speaker 6>That second, well whatever, the movie with that girl, the

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<v Speaker 6>space girl what was her name, xenon Non, Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 6>one that she goes to the moon and she's floating

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<v Speaker 6>on I just read it and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 6>can't do it. And then there was a monster truck

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<v Speaker 6>movie that they had that I was moving along with it,

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<v Speaker 6>but I could not get them. You know, the message

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<v Speaker 6>seemed to me in the script.

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<v Speaker 5>To be.

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<v Speaker 6>If you learn how to hold if you're a girl,

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<v Speaker 6>a Southern girl, and you learn how to hold a

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<v Speaker 6>fork and wear a nice dress and get a guy,

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<v Speaker 6>you will be a great monster truck driver, and I

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<v Speaker 6>guess I could not.

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<v Speaker 5>I have nothing, No, of course I could not do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard that it was a possible sequel to Motocross, right,

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<v Speaker 1>was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that?

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<v Speaker 3>The one?

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<v Speaker 5>Something like that was it was a monster truck movie.

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<v Speaker 6>They had bought it and and you know, we had

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<v Speaker 6>we were gonna shoot it in Louisiana, and it was

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<v Speaker 6>all really interesting to me, like the situation. But I

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<v Speaker 6>really wanted it to be like the movie, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>where she's a cop and she doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's mister geniality.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I really wanted to shape it to be that, and.

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<v Speaker 5>It just was not happening.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, we're getting it, and the executive at the time,

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<v Speaker 6>we're not getting it. And finally I just I also

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<v Speaker 6>thought that it was way too dangerous and they weren't

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<v Speaker 6>going to you know, like with these giant trucks are

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<v Speaker 6>like going to probably me. They finally shut it down

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<v Speaker 6>and I went home.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that leads to a good question, then, which is

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<v Speaker 1>you said that maybe sometimes the writers don't get it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's a creative process all the way through,

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<v Speaker 1>but as the director, especially one as respected as you

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<v Speaker 1>are at the channel.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, how much input do you have to the script

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<v Speaker 3>in the story.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I have a lot of input, And there's arguments,

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<v Speaker 6>and writers love their little vignettes and their things, and

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<v Speaker 6>but what I love is how somebody's talking to somebody

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<v Speaker 6>and how they're interacting and with how they're feeling vulnerable

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<v Speaker 6>and things like that that are in the script. And

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<v Speaker 6>and so I'm always like, we need to do this,

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<v Speaker 6>and we need to hold this back a.

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<v Speaker 5>Little bit, and you know, so so it's I you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of you wish was you know, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Basically took that script and I cut and pasted it.

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<v Speaker 6>I put in blank pages and said, we need a

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<v Speaker 6>scene that's this, And you know, and the writers, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>they asked for more money to do it.

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<v Speaker 5>But they did it, and and then you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>proud of the way those that they turn out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I know it probably changes film to film,

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<v Speaker 2>But what do you feel like your typical timeline is

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<v Speaker 2>before you actually hit hit the ground running with actually filming,

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.640
<v Speaker 2>like going out to set and doing it. How much time,

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<v Speaker 2>like I mean, for writers for you to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to go through and cess out changes that you see

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 2>things that you need to be done to the script.

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<v Speaker 2>How much time is that process before you go? And again,

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's changes, but what's like kind of a normal,

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<v Speaker 2>a normal.

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<v Speaker 4>Timeline that you get brought onto the project.

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<v Speaker 6>There's like an eight like it's all sort of set.

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 6>There's the director portion of it, which is all sort

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<v Speaker 6>of set by the DGA, which is I think eight weeks,

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 6>and then shooting is you know, they give you it's

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<v Speaker 6>like it used to be only twenty five days, and

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<v Speaker 6>then I think they started to realize that it's ridiculous

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 6>that we're just putting this lid on this, so that

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 6>went longer. So I think we're up to thirty one

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<v Speaker 6>or thirty four days on Zombies, and then there's four

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<v Speaker 6>weeks of editing, and then there's you know, there's posts

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 6>and effects. But now these movies are becoming so big

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 6>that it's I get hired as an executive producer first,

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:51.439
<v Speaker 6>and then we get to work on the script.

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 5>So by the.

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 6>Time the you know that was beginning whatever eight weeks starts,

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 6>you're already pretty much deep into the line is kind

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<v Speaker 6>of blurred nowadays, and you know, the Zombies thing, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>still after I'm done with you, I have looping still

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<v Speaker 6>to be done, and every Monday and Thursday and Fridays

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 6>I have the effects to review.

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<v Speaker 5>So the things go on now for it.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, used to be like six months of your

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<v Speaker 6>life and you're done. Now it's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 6>year of your life. Almost two and you're done.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus. I want to get to Zombies obviously because of

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<v Speaker 1>everything that has become with that franchise.

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<v Speaker 3>But what was the first musical that you did?

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<v Speaker 1>And was the musical something that you had any experience in,

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<v Speaker 1>because now it seems like you're one of the go

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<v Speaker 1>to for the big lavish productions. Is this something that

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you had experience with before? Or were you kind of

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.439
<v Speaker 1>thrown into the deep end with the camp Rock movie.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I wasn't. I well, I love musicals like as I.

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't be in this business if it wasn't for

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 6>a girlfriend I had in eighth grade took me to

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 6>a play Two Gentlemen of Verona the musical, and I

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 6>was just like, oh my God, like what is this?

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>I just so to me. I thought it's the coolest.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I thought, oh, I'll be an electrical engineer or

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 6>some stupid job that I was probably going to.

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:20.919
<v Speaker 5>Be unhappy with.

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 6>And then I saw a musical and I thought, oh,

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 6>this is I want to do this. I've never seen

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 6>anything like this before. And my parents were doctors and

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 6>in the medical profession, so I had like nothing, wow.

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 5>They I don't think they ever took me to a

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 5>musical at all.

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow.

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 5>So they were not big theater people.

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 6>And so the first thing I did was I did

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 6>Jump In, which had some dance and it was more stunty,

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 6>but it had some It was kind of a hip

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 6>poppy kind of movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 6>And then then the the first musical I did was

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 6>actually Cheetah Girls.

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<v Speaker 5>They yes, that was wow. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was.

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm pretty sure.

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 6>Well I'm sure it was Cheetah Girls because they were

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 6>a little like, I don't know, you know about is

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 6>you're gonna be able to do it? And then I

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 6>did that that boat song you know where you were

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 6>in the Swans on the Fountains, I can't wait, And

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 6>Michael was like was running around showing like the cut

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.679
<v Speaker 6>to look how great this is going to be.

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 2>And that wasn't even like a crazy I mean performance,

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 2>it was a performance routine, but that was more theatrical

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and like telling the story of what our characters were

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 2>going through.

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 4>Versus being like like cheatah love, I love me some

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 4>cheata love, I can't wait.

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Will loves the movies like Step Up and stuff. When

0:28:58.080 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>he sees when he.

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 4>Sees it's me if you can't he's good love. Oh

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 4>it's good. It's a battle. It's a battle for.

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 5>A long it's a long battle, so long, it's a

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 5>long song.

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 2>It was so this is like the stuff that I

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 2>was kind of telling Will about working with you and

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>showing up to set. Of course, everything we went to

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 2>in India was just so big was there. Everything was

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 2>so grand and such a huge scale. We were filming

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 2>at palaces and you know, it was just it was

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 2>it was unreal. And so we're walking up this big

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 2>step these this big driveway because it was too steep

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I think for like even really cars to go up.

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 4>So we walked up.

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>It and came across those well I don't even know

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 2>what they're called, but they were like the pole like

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 2>the yes, and it was the dancers were practicing in it,

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 2>and the lighting and the background.

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 4>Behind the dancers.

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 2>We were just like, holy cow, like this looked like

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>me walking up it looked like a feature film set.

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 4>It was.

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 2>That was so amazing, and then you know, we have

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>our dance and it was it was so fun and.

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 4>The whole movement of the camera. Oh, it's so good.

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 4>I really loved all of our musicals. Well, that's I.

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Mean, that's a good question then, is how I mean,

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>do you have to approach shooting a musical differently than

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you approach shooting a film that is it musically inclined

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>or is it just kind of the same process just

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>on a different scale.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, it's it's it's almost the same process. Some

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 6>parts are a little bit easier, in some.

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 5>Parts are a little harder. I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, the great thing is that you have a

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 6>choreographer and so you know I can go. So for me,

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 6>it's like wow, when they'd be great, here's a budget

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 6>and you can imagine what a dance might be like here,

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 6>and then you end up working with the choreographer who

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 6>who lays it out basically and rehearses with the cast.

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 6>So for me, in that sense, it's just like oh wow, yeah,

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 6>and you just look at it.

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 5>I don't have to do all the blocking and write

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 5>us on this line.

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 6>And do this, and because if you saw me dance,

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 6>you would, you know, still be better than me.

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 2>We had a fantastic choreographer. We had Fatima who had

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 2>worked with Black Eyed Pete. I mean she's worked with

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>just everyone Big and Missy Elli, everyone, everyone, So her

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 2>and the sets she's always been on for these giant

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 2>movie videos or music videos are huge. So her eyes,

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 2>like she knows exactly when she's choreographing what she's wanting.

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 4>She films.

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 2>It brings I mean, you came into rehearsal to see everything,

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 2>which not always happens when you have, you know, a director,

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 2>like they don't always come in right at the rehearsal time.

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 2>They kind of just see the films, and you wanted

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 2>to see exactly how we were interacting.

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 4>It was.

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 2>It was such a fun experience in such a crazy everything.

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 6>She was the most uncommunicative person that I think I've

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 6>ever worked with, but I totally got it like I

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 6>would she would, you know, she'd show me the dance

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 6>and then she pushed me over here and and I

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 6>think Bamboo, remember he was the ad, said to me

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 6>at one point, do.

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 5>You have any idea like what we're going to do.

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 6>When we get on this, nobody else had seen everything,

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 6>and I go, oh, yeah, it's gonna be fine. It's there,

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 6>she's going to do this and it's this and you know,

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 6>don't you know, don't worry, and then you know, and

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 6>then then it was, you know, I think she had

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 6>ideas and I did those.

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 5>And then when I felt like there was we needed

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 5>a little more pop or.

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 6>Something, then you know, I'd going, Okay, let's just do

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 6>this and this is gonna, you know, help this situation.

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 6>So I, you know, I she's amazing and I think

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 6>she was an amazing person and to work with, and

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, it's just sort of a relief kind

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 6>of to have somebody to walk. There's a large part

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 6>of the movie is taking care for you.

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so do you I mean then do you prefer

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 3>doing musicals over non musicals?

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 5>Uh? I do. I love it, And I just think,

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, it sets to me.

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 6>You know, when something's happening, you know, you can't talk

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 6>about it anymore.

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 5>You have to sing about it.

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 6>That's what usually this is, and that's kind of in

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:30.479
<v Speaker 6>my realm, right, you know, when when the drama is happening,

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 6>and it's too much and you can't there's nothing else

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 6>you can say.

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 5>You got to sing about it, right, So I think that's.

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>And speaking of the resurgence, have you been following in

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.479
<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota Vikings at all and what's been going on?

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 6>Which was very weird because I remember sitting there on

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 6>the set and they were coming in and there's just

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 6>a march into camp and I told Rosario, I go, dude,

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 6>we gotta they gotta they can't.

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 5>Just come in here like walking.

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 6>We got to come up with some stomp like something

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 6>or other. And he's like, okay, okay, give me a minute.

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 6>And then you know they did it.

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 4>So that was like basically.

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 6>Basically only it was like a thing and just and

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:18.919
<v Speaker 6>you know, they all pulled it off.

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:23.720
<v Speaker 5>And the Jonas brothers were very intense on not dancing.

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know that was their life because they saw

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:27.720
<v Speaker 3>the first camp rock.

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:33.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah hit their sticks, which I thought.

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that'll work.

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So now we've got to get in to zombies

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:44.439
<v Speaker 1>because this has become a phenomenon, I mean, absolutely huge,

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and and you know, in all fairness is I'm surprised

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Tona did not lead with this. For me, musicals where

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>people just break into song and dance out of nowhere

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:54.959
<v Speaker 1>were never my favorite thing. I'm always the guy going,

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>did you get together early in rehearse?

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:58.359
<v Speaker 3>How did you know to break into dance?

0:34:58.440 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Never really got it? He can't let me let it go.

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 3>And then we started watching These and Descendants. Okay, those

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 3>gray it was nice with the.

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>High school music, and then we got to Zombies one

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>and I loved it, and I did.

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 3>I loved everything.

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>It was such a clever story, a world I'd never

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 1>seen before, the music work, the romance work, the acting work.

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.760
<v Speaker 3>And so I'm curious not only how.

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 1>That project came across your desk, obviously the way that

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>they normally do, but is this one of those things

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 1>by this point where you know what something's going to

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:32.800
<v Speaker 1>be when it's handed to you.

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, could you tell what this was going to become?

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 8>No?

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 6>And so you know, there was another director that was

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 6>on that at the very beginning and had shot or

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 6>I think thirteen days or something like that, and in

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:53.439
<v Speaker 6>those thirteen days he had managed to be ten days

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 6>over budget, like they just kept you know, and I thought, oh,

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's I was with my friend and I'm

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 6>helping him do an adu and I'm just like this,

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 6>And I go to get tacos and I leave my

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 6>phone and I come back and there's this long chain

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 6>of panic text from from the network saying what are

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 6>you doing?

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 5>Can you call me? You know, bah blah blah blah blah.

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 5>My agent then called. They were all like they're all

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:22.880
<v Speaker 5>looking for you. Like it was just like this panic

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 5>of one hour. When I was eating cocke, you know, I.

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 6>Look at my phone and I go, oh God, I

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:34.399
<v Speaker 6>gotta I have to take this call and what are

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 6>you doing? And I said I'm nothing, and they go,

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 6>can you would you be interested in we're having problems

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 6>on this set. Would you be interested in in? Could

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 6>you fly to Toronto tomorrow start shooting, meet the cast

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 6>on Sunday, and start shooting on Monday.

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 5>And I was like, uh, okay.

0:36:56.080 --> 0:37:00.760
<v Speaker 6>And so they had a script and they had shot

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 6>some scene. So I looked at all the scenes and

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 6>I thought, uh, this looks kind of interesting.

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 5>It was a little weird to me, you.

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 6>Know, because there was a lot of pink and blue,

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 6>and there's a lot of jazz hands and the acting

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 6>was way like over the top.

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 5>In my offensibility you know, and I was, you.

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 6>Know, and then I tried to figure out, well, am

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 6>I going to be there with the other director?

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 5>No, no, he's going to be gone, So okay.

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 6>So I came there and basically the entire time that

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 6>I was there on that first thing, but the script

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 6>had all pages were all like mixed up, and there

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.399
<v Speaker 6>were ideas like we're going to take out these three

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 6>scenes and move all these three scenes together, but they

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 6>were just shifted and he was keeping the script from

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:46.720
<v Speaker 6>the channel.

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:49.760
<v Speaker 5>And they had Chris.

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 6>Scott, who was the choreographer who you know, I totally

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 6>admire and who's done Wicked and and you know, he

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 6>was good friends with this director. So I came into

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 6>this situation, which I have to say, it was completely

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 6>There was a lot of the cast it was like

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:08.760
<v Speaker 6>what's happening?

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:14.280
<v Speaker 6>And then I just showed up on Monday and basically

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 6>just took it a day at a time and basically

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:20.919
<v Speaker 6>just sort of prepped and try to put together what

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 6>he had.

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 5>Shot, what had been planned to be shot.

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 6>I tried to There's all issues with the kids because

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:34.880
<v Speaker 6>they were showing up and not working, and you know,

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 6>to me, I just tried to make it put all

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.879
<v Speaker 6>I could into it. But I did show it too.

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:42.799
<v Speaker 6>I showed the rough cut to my son, who at

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 6>the time was young, like he's seven or eight and

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 6>a boy, right, and he watched it and put his

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 6>hoodie over his head and oh, Dad.

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 5>Gotta take it. You got to take your name off this.

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 1>Movie, the first Alan Smith in the history of.

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 6>I go, oh, come on, man, you know, like, but

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:16.800
<v Speaker 6>you know, a lot of the things that are appealing

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 6>to boys in that movie, like.

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 5>The zombieing out and a lot of the effects and

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 5>the world. You know, I don't know. I saw like

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 5>what it could be, and I thought it.

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:31.280
<v Speaker 6>Was they did something you know, where they just hadn't

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 6>done in other movies where they just they chose a

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.760
<v Speaker 6>color palette, like it or not. You know, it had rules,

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 6>and the world had a definite I could see what

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 6>that world could look like. And they created a world

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 6>of zombies and they had the great mythology to it.

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 6>And so, you know, for me, it was, okay, how

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 6>can we just give this some scope because I think

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 6>at the beginning it just didn't. It had a lot

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 6>of those ideas, but they were like a corner of

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:05.359
<v Speaker 6>a room, you know, And and so I think what

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:07.720
<v Speaker 6>we tried to do is really like sort of blow

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 6>out the world and try to just give it scope

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 6>and you know it. There was a moment like the

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 6>comedy was just so interesting and just weird. I like, Trevor,

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 6>I remember, maybe we should just try You need to

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 6>just take it down a notch.

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 5>And let's let's see. You know, you did it for

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 5>me like one take and I go, yeah, just keep

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 5>doing what you're doing.

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 4>Take us to the day.

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:44.320
<v Speaker 2>How much anxiety did you have when he said, no, Paul,

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 2>I have to be the one that jumps through that

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 2>giant poster.

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 4>It has to be me.

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 2>How well as a director, no, you're not going to

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 2>just like injure yourself.

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 4>Well, we've got so many days left of shooting.

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Look, but it was so good, so well, like well,

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I was fastly.

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 6>Sort of surprised by things that I don't know that

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:11.720
<v Speaker 6>I necessarily would have gone okay, Because I walked into

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 6>this room that had this big, huge like runway that

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 6>was built like it was thirty yards long, and.

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.879
<v Speaker 5>Two things of this poster that they had printed which

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:24.799
<v Speaker 5>were huge.

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 6>And boxes set up for to crash into it, and

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 6>I was like, what the hell is this this is

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.880
<v Speaker 6>literally spent all this money just for him to run

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 6>through this post. The whole thing to me was and

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 6>it was a visual effects thing, right because he didn't

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 6>actually jump through.

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 5>He jumped through the size of a thing that was

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 5>his head.

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 6>But then it had to be put on to where

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 6>the poster was actually hanging.

0:41:54.440 --> 0:42:00.439
<v Speaker 5>Oh couldn't. You couldn't actually build it, you know the way, So.

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 4>You definitely mean that. We got to interview him, and honestly,

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how.

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Long it's lasted, but he absolutely loved and is so

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 2>proud and like that was his favorite thing that he

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 2>did on that first movie, hands down.

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 4>That was it.

0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 2>He was like, that was the most amazing thing. I

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 2>cannot believe I convinced.

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 4>Paul to actually let me do it because.

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:24.280
<v Speaker 2>There was somebody hired to do it.

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:27.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he convinced him, Like, no, no, that's got to

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 4>be me.

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, okay.

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:31.360
<v Speaker 5>I believe it.

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 4>I feel like I couldn't convince you to do anything.

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 4>You were like, are you sure? Like yeah, I got this,

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 4>You're like all right?

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Or he is.

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:43.719
<v Speaker 5>Either just an incredibly talented guy.

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And.

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 6>There's always like it's not just that that he does

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:51.720
<v Speaker 6>that I think it's crazy. It's all the other stuff,

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 6>the tumbling and the flipping, and then you just ask him, oh,

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 6>you need to make an entrance here can you do

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 6>like some back layover thing and then ended with the

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:00.120
<v Speaker 6>jazz hands.

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the movie comes out, it's a smash hit.

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>It becomes kind of one of their big tent pole

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.280
<v Speaker 1>franchises for the for the channel.

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what can we expect from the new one?

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:30.879
<v Speaker 5>Well, what can I say about? Definitely handoff to some

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 5>younger talent.

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we've heard, We've heard that.

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we we have new monsters that we have God,

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if what I can say, like the

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 6>Super Trouble your Penama.

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 1>The is the the chip the chip in your neck

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:47.800
<v Speaker 1>from Disney is going to explode?

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:48.319
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I know.

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:53.360
<v Speaker 6>We have vampires and we have day Walkers. We have

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 6>two fantastically talented kids. One Frea who's in it is

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 6>She's she's very unexperienced and wonderful and he hasn't done nothing.

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 5>She is a trooper.

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 6>And then Malachi who's on he was on stuck in

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:15.760
<v Speaker 6>the middle, and I think on the Villains of Valley

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 6>Square that right, also talented, and you know, it's it's

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 6>you know, the idea is we're just trying to grow

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 6>it and I think it's a handoff to sort of

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:31.320
<v Speaker 6>a new generation of bombies fans.

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 5>And it's a new world. It's a world of vampires

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 5>and day walkers. You know.

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 6>Day walkers control the power of the sun and vampires

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:44.280
<v Speaker 6>control the power of the wind.

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 5>So they have this elemental thing about and we shot

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:49.800
<v Speaker 5>it in Zealand.

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is so rad.

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 4>I feel like Disney hasn't gone to New Zealand And forever.

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 5>Since Eddie's Million Dollar Cookoffs.

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 4>Really, so you've now gone twice.

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 5>I've gone three times.

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 4>Three times. Where's the third one?

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 5>That was you wish?

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 6>Okay, Eddie's Million Dollar Cookoff, and then it was this

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 6>one I tried to get back sooner for because I

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 6>thought zombies. It seems like the right place for zombies

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:23.320
<v Speaker 6>because it has a little different of a world already.

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's a lot of.

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.800
<v Speaker 6>So so I really pushed to go back there, and

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:32.800
<v Speaker 6>it's changed a lot. But it's a great place to shoot.

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 6>We had a great crew and I think you'll love it.

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 2>It compared to shooting in a vegetarian village, as you

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 2>did in India.

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:46.240
<v Speaker 4>Do you remember when we went.

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:49.879
<v Speaker 5>To that the vegetarian village? Wasn't everything vegetarian?

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 4>Didn't we No, there was chicken, chicken, Oh, you're.

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:55.240
<v Speaker 5>Right, I think we had chicken screws.

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 2>It was when we stayed at that Prince's palace, remember

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:01.280
<v Speaker 2>he had Oh yeah, I gotta tell a little this story.

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:03.439
<v Speaker 4>You don't see any of this part in the movie

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 4>at all.

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 2>But we walked into the Prince's palace that we're staying at.

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 2>We're literally staying at this place, and one of the

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 2>rooms was his hunting room, and I just like remember,

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I was like like they were everywhere.

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:20.240
<v Speaker 5>He had a table.

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Like giant hunts, not not small, not not even buffalo like,

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 2>these things were giantormous. And he had a table that

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 2>was sat on like on animals, like feet, like hoofs

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 2>of different Okay, so we had already had kind of

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 2>different things that would happen with catering.

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 4>The food did not sit well with me anyway.

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.280
<v Speaker 2>So now we now we don't even get to have chicken,

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 2>which was fine sous basically eating peanut butter and apples

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:51.839
<v Speaker 2>at that point. But we were walking around and this

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 2>place was so it was so such a cool experience.

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 4>It was different. It made some of the things with

0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 4>production hard. But the village hadn't had anyone like us around.

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 4>So it's me, Keeli and Adrian walking around and we

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 4>might as well have been purple, pink and blue.

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Like.

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 2>They had never seen someone with blonde hair before. They

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 2>had never seen someone look like Kiley, like our whole

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, our whole crew that was from the States

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 2>that was there. The filming for me was just eye

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:23.239
<v Speaker 2>opening of Wow, we're really going to be in a

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 2>world for Disney that they haven't gone to before, and

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 2>this is going to hopefully open the eyes and you know,

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Disney will hopefully expand here and all this stuff.

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:32.959
<v Speaker 4>And it just felt like when we were.

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:35.280
<v Speaker 5>Doing something India Disney Channel.

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 3>So that yeah, yes, geez it, synergy Disney.

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 5>It was.

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:44.680
<v Speaker 4>It was awesome. It was fun because things just weird

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 4>stuff kept happening.

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:48.239
<v Speaker 5>Stories could just do it.

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 4>I know they asked me for stories. I'm like, I

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 4>don't think I can tell.

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 6>Any like, but that place, for example, I was like

0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:58.840
<v Speaker 6>dusting off a file folder in my office and we

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.799
<v Speaker 6>had to move out of food I pour for and

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 6>I picked up these pictures of this that location that

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 6>were like in the bottom of a drawer in the desk,

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 6>and I hadn't seen them, and.

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:12.560
<v Speaker 5>I go, what what is this place? Like, why aren't

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 5>we shooting here?

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:17.400
<v Speaker 8>Look at this, look at this like courtyard, and and

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 8>you know, the production designer came, you know, I'm coming

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:25.720
<v Speaker 8>over to see right now and hung up the phone,

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 8>and I was like, like, people wanted to shoot there,

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 8>but there were some politics, yeah, and they couldn't shoot there,

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 8>and so I don't know, we we had to relocate

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 8>and we made it work. And it was like this

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:44.799
<v Speaker 8>whole long sequence of you guys driving to get there.

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:48.919
<v Speaker 8>And so as we were driving the whole cast going

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:50.240
<v Speaker 8>to this location.

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:54.360
<v Speaker 6>I remember we had this elephant because when you walked

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 6>around there, you saw these things that were amazing, Like

0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 6>you really saw women was sorry's carrying thatch on their head.

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 4>And a giant bowl of like cement blocks. Like the

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:08.759
<v Speaker 4>women were just hardcore.

0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 5>They worked on the road.

0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:15.440
<v Speaker 6>They did everything they they and the men sat around

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 6>and smoked and sat at these like checkpoints and pulled

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 6>the arm of.

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:22.399
<v Speaker 5>The gate up beautiful by for god knows like what

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:23.120
<v Speaker 5>that job is.

0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 6>But anyway, and so on our way there, and I

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 6>don't know if you were there.

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 5>I know you guys were in the car, and we

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 5>did a lot of the driving thing, but.

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 6>We were shooting the points of view, and we had

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:40.920
<v Speaker 6>this elephant that we that walked like fifteen miles to

0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:41.359
<v Speaker 6>get there.

0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:42.399
<v Speaker 5>And as we were.

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:45.799
<v Speaker 6>Shooting at this little location that I had perfectly sought out, like, okay,

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 6>if we look this way, this is where the women

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:50.439
<v Speaker 6>on the sticks, and over here the goats can come,

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 6>and over here the elephant can walk, you know. And

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 6>as we're setting up for this carefully, suddenly over the mountains,

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 6>like two thousand people and I am not exaggerating come.

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 5>Over to watch what's going on down below in this valley.

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm like and B like going, tell me what

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:13.240
<v Speaker 6>do you want to shoot? And I'll like clear them away?

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 6>And I go, it's impossible, this sun setting. We can't

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 6>do anything. So I get in.

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 5>I say, get in the car. So we get in

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:23.839
<v Speaker 5>the car and I sit on the hood.

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:26.960
<v Speaker 6>With the camera on my shoulder, and we start to

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 6>drive down the highway and I'm on the foot of

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.440
<v Speaker 6>the car waiting to make a left turn just to

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 6>get off of the highway into the cause I'm figuring like,

0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 6>if I just get anywhere, I'm going to see all

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:40.800
<v Speaker 6>this stuff and it's going to be fine.

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:43.400
<v Speaker 5>And I go, we turn off the road.

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:45.840
<v Speaker 6>Right as we turn off the road, I see this

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:48.800
<v Speaker 6>goat herder with his goat coming down.

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:51.480
<v Speaker 5>I go, what's roll? And my GANI comes out of

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 5>the car and rolls and.

0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 6>I'm literally like filming this thing as like ghosts come down.

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:58.439
<v Speaker 6>And then we drive by and like, oh look there's

0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 6>a woman working in the field. Oh look there's some

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:03.120
<v Speaker 6>un stacking bricks on the thing. You know.

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 5>Just me like twenty minutes that the sun was like setting,

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:10.640
<v Speaker 5>you know. And I got back in the car.

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:15.799
<v Speaker 6>And Donnie like the DB's like, now that's fricking filmmaking.

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, we are going to have to do an

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:24.759
<v Speaker 1>entire episode about the Cheetah girls. But for the end

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:26.400
<v Speaker 1>of this one, if you don't mind, I'm going to

0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:29.239
<v Speaker 1>throw two questions that you're not gonna like to answer,

0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:30.800
<v Speaker 1>because I know they're going to be very difficult, but

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw out there anyway. I'm gonna put you

0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:36.960
<v Speaker 1>on the spot. The first one is what's your favorite

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:38.760
<v Speaker 1>d com that you shot?

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, I don't think I can. I don't

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:46.960
<v Speaker 5>even think I can. I can't even answer.

0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 6>That because they're also they also want It's like asking like,

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 6>which child is your favorite child?

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:55.360
<v Speaker 1>But I've been told parents really all do have a

0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:57.480
<v Speaker 1>favorite child, they just don't say it out loud, right,

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd be closer.

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 2>How about this, Since you did have kids that did

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:09.160
<v Speaker 2>grow up obviously watching them because you were a part

0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:10.960
<v Speaker 2>of a lot of them, is there one that your

0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 2>kid that was their favorite that you just couldn't seem

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 2>to get away?

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:18.799
<v Speaker 6>I would think there, let It Shine is one that

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 6>they are huge fans of. And then I would say

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:25.200
<v Speaker 6>Lucky the Irish. Those are the two.

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Luck of the Irish keeps is at the top of

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:29.319
<v Speaker 1>most people's It's like, really at the top of a

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of.

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:33.400
<v Speaker 4>People, it really is. And it still plays a lot.

0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:36.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, like it's such a little simple thing too.

0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:37.759
<v Speaker 3>People loved it.

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:40.400
<v Speaker 1>And then the last question, and again putting you on

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:43.879
<v Speaker 1>the spot. I won't say favorite because favorite's difficult when

0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 1>it comes to talking about people. But what actor did

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:51.360
<v Speaker 1>you work with that the second you saw him or

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:52.319
<v Speaker 1>her on screen you.

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Knew this person was going to be a superstar.

0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:57.799
<v Speaker 4>Oh I hope I know this one for you, not me.

0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:04.640
<v Speaker 6>You already you were already doesn't wow that I knew

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:10.799
<v Speaker 6>they were going to be a superstar. I don't, well, Shia,

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:11.400
<v Speaker 6>I knew.

0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:14.400
<v Speaker 3>I was wondering if you were going to say Shia.

0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I think because I remember Gary called me

0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 6>and said, what do you think about this kid? I go,

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 6>I think he's freaking awesome. I think you we should

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:29.799
<v Speaker 6>do something with him, for sure, you know, I don't gosh,

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, Sabrina, who what.

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 5>Were you gonna?

0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:35.360
<v Speaker 4>I would think it would be Milo.

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Milo's pretty, he's he stole that movie.

0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:41.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's phenomenal.

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and it's the second he gets on camera

0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:48.000
<v Speaker 2>that you're like, whoa, Yeah, well, I'm.

0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:51.200
<v Speaker 5>Glad you had that of Milo and I were not always.

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Like okay, fair enough, fair enough, some of the greatest relationships.

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.840
<v Speaker 5>I mean, my god, he's awesome and he's super talented.

0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:05.200
<v Speaker 6>Like I'm not taking anything away from that, but he

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:09.080
<v Speaker 6>had never done a movie or anything, yeah at all?

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or he just seems like a leading man and

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 2>he can dance and sing, I mean, and he's great

0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 2>at it. I think he's one of the best that

0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 2>the channels seen in that aspect. So, I mean he

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:28.080
<v Speaker 2>was really great. Again this is and I know I

0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't say it yet, but Will told you is. I

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 2>loved the movie so much that first one. I haven't

0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:36.479
<v Speaker 2>seen the second one. I had never seen the first one, right,

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I loved it so much, And I was like, Will.

0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:42.919
<v Speaker 4>If he does like this movie, I swear god I did.

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:45.160
<v Speaker 3>I loved it. I thought it was great, super entertaining.

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.799
<v Speaker 4>You made him a fan of musicals, Paul. Something I

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 4>thought you did it would never happen.

0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:51.200
<v Speaker 3>You did it.

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:54.160
<v Speaker 5>Well, especially that one. I would be surprised.

0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:57.080
<v Speaker 6>I would be like, oh, you like all these other

0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:00.920
<v Speaker 6>movies like Hair, and you didn't like watch the like those?

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Now I was.

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I liked West Side Story because I was a huge

0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Natalie I had a big crush on Natalie would so

0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and so West Side Story I liked.

0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:11.680
<v Speaker 3>And I mean, I guess technically it's a musical.

0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Willie Wanka and Chocolate Factory is one of my favorite

0:55:14.280 --> 0:55:15.000
<v Speaker 1>movies of all times.

0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:16.439
<v Speaker 3>So Jeane Wilder can do no wrong.

0:55:16.480 --> 0:55:18.680
<v Speaker 5>In my eyes, you have it in your heart.

0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:19.359
<v Speaker 4>I do.

0:55:19.440 --> 0:55:20.959
<v Speaker 3>I think I just don't have it in my feet.

0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:25.240
<v Speaker 5>Jean Wilder and very similar and west Side story. Zombie

0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:26.360
<v Speaker 5>is one is the same story.

0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we're so stoked to see the second, and

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 2>yeah we can and the whole franchise, because if this

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 2>isn't even the first one, isn't even your favorite, it's like,

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:42.040
<v Speaker 2>oh god, what is about to hit us?

0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:43.799
<v Speaker 4>Like, oh my gosh, it's going to be so.

0:55:43.840 --> 0:55:46.760
<v Speaker 8>Good, guys, like the other ones.

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:51.759
<v Speaker 6>I'm sure the two especially, you know, we got to

0:55:52.400 --> 0:55:56.160
<v Speaker 6>start at the beginning and right, it's good. I think

0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:57.719
<v Speaker 6>two is a lot of people's favorite.

0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, well, last question.

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Has there ever been an idea for a dcom that

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you had that you wanted to do?

0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:10.360
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, several of them I had. I just recently

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:12.640
<v Speaker 6>pitched The Luck of the Irish Too, which I loved,

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:15.279
<v Speaker 6>and I'm like, god, I just wanted to write anything.

0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Looky theirs two would be great.

0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:23.759
<v Speaker 6>So fine, Yeah, but the rules of the channel sort of,

0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:26.440
<v Speaker 6>I did. I have a synchronized swimming movie which I

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:31.560
<v Speaker 6>thought I saw the Spanish team like on those some

0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:34.440
<v Speaker 6>Olympics like a few years ago, and so we pitched

0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:37.640
<v Speaker 6>the Sink or Swim, And then I had another Mermaid movie,

0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 6>which you know, so there's several of them that I

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:45.560
<v Speaker 6>keep pitching that I want to do and we'll just see.

0:56:45.960 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 5>I still believe in them.

0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 6>But you know, right now the channel is well of

0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:52.839
<v Speaker 6>the channel, it's really Disney branded television.

0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:56.480
<v Speaker 5>They are all going through, you know, changes.

0:56:56.840 --> 0:56:59.520
<v Speaker 3>The whole industry really is going through these changes.

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:03.359
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, so it's so they need to figure out

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:05.520
<v Speaker 6>what they want to do. And I don't think this

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 6>is the death of children's programming by any means, but

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 6>it's definitely a reset and a recalibration of of you

0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:17.440
<v Speaker 6>know what, you know, what's the possibilities because that was

0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 6>definitely the golden age of programming and I don't think

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 6>that it's over with, but.

0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:28.520
<v Speaker 5>There's hunger for it and we'll just have to see

0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:29.120
<v Speaker 5>how it goes.

0:57:34.600 --> 0:57:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Or I told you, if there's a Grandma cheerleader or

0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 2>something needed in the Zombie seven, I'm there's five.

0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:43.919
<v Speaker 4>I don't care whatever one it is, I'm I'm down.

0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:49.280
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I don't think you're ready for grandma stuff yet.

0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 5>I know for sure you're not ready for No.

0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, Hey, if you ever need anybody who can either

0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 1>sing nor dance, I'm your guy. I'm telling you, thank you,

0:57:57.600 --> 0:58:00.800
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for joining us busy.

0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 3>This has been so cool.

0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I hope you don't mind, but we would love to

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:07.000
<v Speaker 1>have you back sometime to continue the conversation because there's

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:07.600
<v Speaker 1>just so much.

0:58:07.480 --> 0:58:10.800
<v Speaker 4>To cover, so many of your movies we haven't seen yet.

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:13.000
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, we can't wait, we can't wait long.

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 5>Hopefully after you watch them you go like we were

0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:16.800
<v Speaker 5>totally wrong.

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Wow, we don't need to talk to about Thank you

0:58:20.800 --> 0:58:27.400
<v Speaker 1>so much, welcome, thanks, bye bye. It's just it's one

0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:31.960
<v Speaker 1>after another, one after another, tent pole movie, smaller movie,

0:58:32.120 --> 0:58:35.240
<v Speaker 1>giant movie, media movie. I mean, it's like when you

0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:38.760
<v Speaker 1>can say you've done just just running the DCM gam it,

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:40.560
<v Speaker 1>when you can say you've done Look of the Irish

0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and Zombies, it's like, man and then oh yeah, by

0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:47.320
<v Speaker 1>the way, one of the Cheetahirls movie, it's like, come on, I.

0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Mean, and how amazing is it? And I mean, definitely

0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:52.720
<v Speaker 2>would that's hard. We didn't even ask him this question

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:56.680
<v Speaker 2>about coming into the Cheetah Girls on their third movie

0:58:56.760 --> 0:59:00.040
<v Speaker 2>or Camp Rock on their second movie. How much the

0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:03.080
<v Speaker 2>channel had to have believed in him and been knew

0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:06.160
<v Speaker 2>or even what they especially what they did with zombies

0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:08.880
<v Speaker 2>one knowing Okay, this isn't working out.

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:10.800
<v Speaker 4>This is the guy. This is the guy that we

0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:14.240
<v Speaker 4>can pull in, not lose all this money and keep

0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:15.400
<v Speaker 4>this production going.

0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:17.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like su Kreeger right where it's it's

0:59:17.480 --> 0:59:19.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, we need somebody to write that's your guy.

0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:21.760
<v Speaker 3>We need somebody to direct, that's your guy. Like that's it.

0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:24.560
<v Speaker 1>It seems like they act knew what they had and

0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:27.240
<v Speaker 1>that's the person that I.

0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Love knowing just knowing him again, and he touched on

0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:32.800
<v Speaker 2>it a little bit of how he would go in

0:59:32.840 --> 0:59:37.560
<v Speaker 2>there and fight for his how he felt the movies

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<v Speaker 2>would be better and the storylines would be better, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, always with a big heart and everything,

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<v Speaker 2>but like to know that like your director would fight

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<v Speaker 2>for your character that way.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why so many of the actors we've talked to

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<v Speaker 4>already that have worked with him love working with him

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<v Speaker 4>because the level of trust that you have in your director.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he's an actor's director, you can tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Just for the thing he was saying where it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>now I care more about the relationships and why are

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<v Speaker 1>you what are you afraid of right now?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you thinking right now? That's an actor's director.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's the director you pray you get on the

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<v Speaker 1>set where yes, I can do the visual stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very good at the visual stuff, but let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about your performance and what you're feeling and how that's

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, you pray for that every day as an act.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I think one of the interviews we

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<v Speaker 2>had said like they'd.

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<v Speaker 4>Be like, oh no, Paul, I think I could do

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<v Speaker 4>it again. He's like, Nope, you got it. Like you did.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you're good, and that right there gives you

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<v Speaker 2>confidence of going that far or whatever, you know. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I loved working with him, and like he said,

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<v Speaker 2>there's just probably too many stories to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man.

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<v Speaker 1>It also seems like these are stories where you need

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<v Speaker 1>to go have dinner with them because you probably It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>here's stories we can't really talk about on the pod,

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<v Speaker 1>but here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that we're filming a Disney version of India

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much. And the same time our movie came out

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<v Speaker 2>was when slum Dog Millionaire came right, right. But the

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<v Speaker 2>filming process of it was it was pretty tough. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine coming against quite a bunch of things that

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<v Speaker 2>were just popping up on.

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<v Speaker 1>A daily so man, awesome conversation. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Holan for joining us. That was really cool and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, absolutely want to have him back on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. And thank you all for joining us to

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<v Speaker 1>get again a little bit of a glimpse behind the

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<v Speaker 1>curtain to see how some of these awesome movies are made.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't wait, so join us next time over on

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<v Speaker 1>the other feed as we talk about I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know what our next movie is going to be over there?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it is Get a Clue? Next over there? Probably?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's the next one.

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<v Speaker 1>Lindsey Lohans Get a Clue, which was one so well fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Well we'll talk about it. Yikes. Go back over and

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<v Speaker 3>check us out, and thank you all for joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>We will see you next time. Bye.