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Speaker 2: He is seriously, he is literally just I mean he

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Speaker 4: Well, he's so humble and so just. He loves what

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Speaker 1: And then there was another one I'm missing that nobody

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Speaker 1: A big welcome for one of the coolest guests we've

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Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, Thank you so much for joining us. Sabrina

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Speaker 5: More than kind.

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Speaker 2: Well, as I was texting back and forth with you,

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Speaker 4: I mean, your list is just ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Well, you have worked with every major star I swear

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Speaker 2: I mean, everyone just praises how fun you are to

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Speaker 2: So anyways, thank you so much for gracing us with

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Speaker 6: Paul, Wow, thank you for that movie, because that was

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Speaker 6: It was not an easy shooting experience, at least what

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't know if it's me, but I'll take

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Speaker 5: I'm focusing on what are you thinking about? Now? What

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Speaker 6: Because these kids, they see you getting hurt and they

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't think a lot of the stuff

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Speaker 6: I just I just want to be better and do better.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, twice.

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Speaker 6: we were gonna shoot it in Louisiana, and it was

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Speaker 6: all really interesting to me, like the situation. But I

444
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 6: really wanted it to be like the movie, you know,

445
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Speaker 6: where she's a cop and she doesn't.

446
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Speaker 3: It's mister geniality.

447
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 6: Yes, I really wanted to shape it to be that, and.

448
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Speaker 5: It just was not happening.

449
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Speaker 6: You know, we're getting it, and the executive at the time,

450
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 6: we're not getting it. And finally I just I also

451
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 6: thought that it was way too dangerous and they weren't

452
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 6: going to you know, like with these giant trucks are

453
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 6: like going to probably me. They finally shut it down

454
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 6: and I went home.

455
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Speaker 1: Well, that leads to a good question, then, which is

456
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Speaker 1: you said that maybe sometimes the writers don't get it,

457
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Speaker 1: and you know, it's a creative process all the way through,

458
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: but as the director, especially one as respected as you

459
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: are at the channel.

460
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Speaker 3: Now, how much input do you have to the script

461
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Speaker 3: in the story.

462
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Speaker 6: I think I have a lot of input, And there's arguments,

463
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 6: and writers love their little vignettes and their things, and

464
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Speaker 6: but what I love is how somebody's talking to somebody

465
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 6: and how they're interacting and with how they're feeling vulnerable

466
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 6: and things like that that are in the script. And

467
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 6: and so I'm always like, we need to do this,

468
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 6: and we need to hold this back a.

469
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Speaker 5: Little bit, and you know, so so it's I you know,

470
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 5: a lot of you wish was you know, I.

471
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 6: Basically took that script and I cut and pasted it.

472
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 6: I put in blank pages and said, we need a

473
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 6: scene that's this, And you know, and the writers, you know,

474
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 6: they asked for more money to do it.

475
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 5: But they did it, and and then you know, I'm

476
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 5: proud of the way those that they turn out.

477
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know it probably changes film to film,

478
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Speaker 2: But what do you feel like your typical timeline is

479
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: before you actually hit hit the ground running with actually filming,

480
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 2: like going out to set and doing it. How much time,

481
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: like I mean, for writers for you to be able

482
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Speaker 2: to go through and cess out changes that you see

483
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: things that you need to be done to the script.

484
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Speaker 2: How much time is that process before you go? And again,

485
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Speaker 2: I know it's changes, but what's like kind of a normal,

486
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: a normal.

487
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 4: Timeline that you get brought onto the project.

488
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 6: There's like an eight like it's all sort of set.

489
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 6: There's the director portion of it, which is all sort

490
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 6: of set by the DGA, which is I think eight weeks,

491
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 6: and then shooting is you know, they give you it's

492
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 6: like it used to be only twenty five days, and

493
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 6: then I think they started to realize that it's ridiculous

494
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 6: that we're just putting this lid on this, so that

495
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 6: went longer. So I think we're up to thirty one

496
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 6: or thirty four days on Zombies, and then there's four

497
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 6: weeks of editing, and then there's you know, there's posts

498
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 6: and effects. But now these movies are becoming so big

499
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 6: that it's I get hired as an executive producer first,

500
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 6: and then we get to work on the script.

501
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 5: So by the.

502
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 6: Time the you know that was beginning whatever eight weeks starts,

503
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 6: you're already pretty much deep into the line is kind

504
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 6: of blurred nowadays, and you know, the Zombies thing, I'm

505
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 6: still after I'm done with you, I have looping still

506
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 6: to be done, and every Monday and Thursday and Fridays

507
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 6: I have the effects to review.

508
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 5: So the things go on now for it.

509
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 6: You know, used to be like six months of your

510
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 6: life and you're done. Now it's kind of like a

511
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 6: year of your life. Almost two and you're done.

512
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: Jesus. I want to get to Zombies obviously because of

513
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: everything that has become with that franchise.

514
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: But what was the first musical that you did?

515
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: And was the musical something that you had any experience in,

516
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: because now it seems like you're one of the go

517
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: to for the big lavish productions. Is this something that

518
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: you had experience with before? Or were you kind of

519
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: thrown into the deep end with the camp Rock movie.

520
00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 6: No, I wasn't. I well, I love musicals like as I.

521
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be in this business if it wasn't for

522
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 6: a girlfriend I had in eighth grade took me to

523
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 6: a play Two Gentlemen of Verona the musical, and I

524
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 6: was just like, oh my God, like what is this?

525
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: You know?

526
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 5: I just so to me. I thought it's the coolest.

527
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 6: Like I thought, oh, I'll be an electrical engineer or

528
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 6: some stupid job that I was probably going to.

529
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 5: Be unhappy with.

530
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 6: And then I saw a musical and I thought, oh,

531
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 6: this is I want to do this. I've never seen

532
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 6: anything like this before. And my parents were doctors and

533
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 6: in the medical profession, so I had like nothing, wow.

534
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 5: They I don't think they ever took me to a

535
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 5: musical at all.

536
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: Oh wow.

537
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: Oh.

538
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 5: So they were not big theater people.

539
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 6: And so the first thing I did was I did

540
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 6: Jump In, which had some dance and it was more stunty,

541
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 6: but it had some It was kind of a hip

542
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 6: poppy kind of movie.

543
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

544
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 6: And then then the the first musical I did was

545
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 6: actually Cheetah Girls.

546
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 5: They yes, that was wow. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was.

547
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure.

548
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 6: Well I'm sure it was Cheetah Girls because they were

549
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 6: a little like, I don't know, you know about is

550
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 6: you're gonna be able to do it? And then I

551
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 6: did that that boat song you know where you were

552
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 6: in the Swans on the Fountains, I can't wait, And

553
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 6: Michael was like was running around showing like the cut

554
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 6: to look how great this is going to be.

555
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: And that wasn't even like a crazy I mean performance,

556
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: it was a performance routine, but that was more theatrical

557
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: and like telling the story of what our characters were

558
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: going through.

559
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 4: Versus being like like cheatah love, I love me some

560
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 4: cheata love, I can't wait.

561
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: Will loves the movies like Step Up and stuff. When

562
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: he sees when he.

563
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 4: Sees it's me if you can't he's good love. Oh

564
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 4: it's good. It's a battle. It's a battle for.

565
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 5: A long it's a long battle, so long, it's a

566
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 5: long song.

567
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: It was so this is like the stuff that I

568
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: was kind of telling Will about working with you and

569
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: showing up to set. Of course, everything we went to

570
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: in India was just so big was there. Everything was

571
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: so grand and such a huge scale. We were filming

572
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: at palaces and you know, it was just it was

573
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: it was unreal. And so we're walking up this big

574
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: step these this big driveway because it was too steep

575
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: I think for like even really cars to go up.

576
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 4: So we walked up.

577
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: It and came across those well I don't even know

578
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: what they're called, but they were like the pole like

579
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: the yes, and it was the dancers were practicing in it,

580
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: and the lighting and the background.

581
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: Behind the dancers.

582
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: We were just like, holy cow, like this looked like

583
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: me walking up it looked like a feature film set.

584
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 4: It was.

585
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: That was so amazing, and then you know, we have

586
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: our dance and it was it was so fun and.

587
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: The whole movement of the camera. Oh, it's so good.

588
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 4: I really loved all of our musicals. Well, that's I.

589
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: Mean, that's a good question then, is how I mean,

590
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: do you have to approach shooting a musical differently than

591
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: you approach shooting a film that is it musically inclined

592
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: or is it just kind of the same process just

593
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: on a different scale.

594
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 6: You know, it's it's it's almost the same process. Some

595
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 6: parts are a little bit easier, in some.

596
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 5: Parts are a little harder. I mean, I don't know.

597
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 6: You know, the great thing is that you have a

598
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 6: choreographer and so you know I can go. So for me,

599
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 6: it's like wow, when they'd be great, here's a budget

600
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 6: and you can imagine what a dance might be like here,

601
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 6: and then you end up working with the choreographer who

602
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 6: who lays it out basically and rehearses with the cast.

603
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 6: So for me, in that sense, it's just like oh wow, yeah,

604
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 6: and you just look at it.

605
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 5: I don't have to do all the blocking and write

606
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 5: us on this line.

607
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 6: And do this, and because if you saw me dance,

608
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 6: you would, you know, still be better than me.

609
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: We had a fantastic choreographer. We had Fatima who had

610
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: worked with Black Eyed Pete. I mean she's worked with

611
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: just everyone Big and Missy Elli, everyone, everyone, So her

612
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: and the sets she's always been on for these giant

613
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: movie videos or music videos are huge. So her eyes,

614
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: like she knows exactly when she's choreographing what she's wanting.

615
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 4: She films.

616
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: It brings I mean, you came into rehearsal to see everything,

617
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: which not always happens when you have, you know, a director,

618
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: like they don't always come in right at the rehearsal time.

619
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: They kind of just see the films, and you wanted

620
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: to see exactly how we were interacting.

621
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 4: It was.

622
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: It was such a fun experience in such a crazy everything.

623
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 6: She was the most uncommunicative person that I think I've

624
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 6: ever worked with, but I totally got it like I

625
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 6: would she would, you know, she'd show me the dance

626
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 6: and then she pushed me over here and and I

627
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 6: think Bamboo, remember he was the ad, said to me

628
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 6: at one point, do.

629
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 5: You have any idea like what we're going to do.

630
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 6: When we get on this, nobody else had seen everything,

631
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 6: and I go, oh, yeah, it's gonna be fine. It's there,

632
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 6: she's going to do this and it's this and you know,

633
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 6: don't you know, don't worry, and then you know, and

634
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 6: then then it was, you know, I think she had

635
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 6: ideas and I did those.

636
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 5: And then when I felt like there was we needed

637
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 5: a little more pop or.

638
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 6: Something, then you know, I'd going, Okay, let's just do

639
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 6: this and this is gonna, you know, help this situation.

640
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 6: So I, you know, I she's amazing and I think

641
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 6: she was an amazing person and to work with, and

642
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 6: I don't know, it's just sort of a relief kind

643
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 6: of to have somebody to walk. There's a large part

644
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 6: of the movie is taking care for you.

645
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

646
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so do you I mean then do you prefer

647
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: doing musicals over non musicals?

648
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 5: Uh? I do. I love it, And I just think,

649
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 5: you know, it sets to me.

650
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 6: You know, when something's happening, you know, you can't talk

651
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 6: about it anymore.

652
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 5: You have to sing about it.

653
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 6: That's what usually this is, and that's kind of in

654
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,479
Speaker 6: my realm, right, you know, when when the drama is happening,

655
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 6: and it's too much and you can't there's nothing else

656
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 6: you can say.

657
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 5: You got to sing about it, right, So I think that's.

658
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: And speaking of the resurgence, have you been following in

659
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings at all and what's been going on?

660
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 6: Which was very weird because I remember sitting there on

661
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 6: the set and they were coming in and there's just

662
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 6: a march into camp and I told Rosario, I go, dude,

663
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 6: we gotta they gotta they can't.

664
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 5: Just come in here like walking.

665
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 6: We got to come up with some stomp like something

666
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 6: or other. And he's like, okay, okay, give me a minute.

667
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 6: And then you know they did it.

668
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 4: So that was like basically.

669
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 6: Basically only it was like a thing and just and

670
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 6: you know, they all pulled it off.

671
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 5: And the Jonas brothers were very intense on not dancing.

672
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that was their life because they saw

673
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 3: the first camp rock.

674
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 5: Yeah hit their sticks, which I thought.

675
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 3: Okay, that'll work.

676
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So now we've got to get in to zombies

677
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: because this has become a phenomenon, I mean, absolutely huge,

678
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: and and you know, in all fairness is I'm surprised

679
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: Tona did not lead with this. For me, musicals where

680
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: people just break into song and dance out of nowhere

681
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 1: were never my favorite thing. I'm always the guy going,

682
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: did you get together early in rehearse?

683
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: How did you know to break into dance?

684
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Like?

685
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: Never really got it? He can't let me let it go.

686
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 3: And then we started watching These and Descendants. Okay, those

687
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: gray it was nice with the.

688
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: High school music, and then we got to Zombies one

689
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: and I loved it, and I did.

690
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: I loved everything.

691
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: It was such a clever story, a world I'd never

692
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: seen before, the music work, the romance work, the acting work.

693
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 3: And so I'm curious not only how.

694
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: That project came across your desk, obviously the way that

695
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: they normally do, but is this one of those things

696
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: by this point where you know what something's going to

697
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: be when it's handed to you.

698
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: I mean, could you tell what this was going to become?

699
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 8: No?

700
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 6: And so you know, there was another director that was

701
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 6: on that at the very beginning and had shot or

702
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 6: I think thirteen days or something like that, and in

703
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 6: those thirteen days he had managed to be ten days

704
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 6: over budget, like they just kept you know, and I thought, oh,

705
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 6: you know, it's I was with my friend and I'm

706
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 6: helping him do an adu and I'm just like this,

707
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 6: And I go to get tacos and I leave my

708
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 6: phone and I come back and there's this long chain

709
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 6: of panic text from from the network saying what are

710
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 6: you doing?

711
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 5: Can you call me? You know, bah blah blah blah blah.

712
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 5: My agent then called. They were all like they're all

713
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 5: looking for you. Like it was just like this panic

714
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 5: of one hour. When I was eating cocke, you know, I.

715
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 6: Look at my phone and I go, oh God, I

716
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 6: gotta I have to take this call and what are

717
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 6: you doing? And I said I'm nothing, and they go,

718
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 6: can you would you be interested in we're having problems

719
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 6: on this set. Would you be interested in in? Could

720
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 6: you fly to Toronto tomorrow start shooting, meet the cast

721
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 6: on Sunday, and start shooting on Monday.

722
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 5: And I was like, uh, okay.

723
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 6: And so they had a script and they had shot

724
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 6: some scene. So I looked at all the scenes and

725
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 6: I thought, uh, this looks kind of interesting.

726
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 5: It was a little weird to me, you.

727
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 6: Know, because there was a lot of pink and blue,

728
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 6: and there's a lot of jazz hands and the acting

729
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 6: was way like over the top.

730
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 5: In my offensibility you know, and I was, you.

731
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 6: Know, and then I tried to figure out, well, am

732
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 6: I going to be there with the other director?

733
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: No, no, he's going to be gone, So okay.

734
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 6: So I came there and basically the entire time that

735
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 6: I was there on that first thing, but the script

736
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 6: had all pages were all like mixed up, and there

737
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 6: were ideas like we're going to take out these three

738
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 6: scenes and move all these three scenes together, but they

739
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 6: were just shifted and he was keeping the script from

740
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 6: the channel.

741
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 5: And they had Chris.

742
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 6: Scott, who was the choreographer who you know, I totally

743
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 6: admire and who's done Wicked and and you know, he

744
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 6: was good friends with this director. So I came into

745
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 6: this situation, which I have to say, it was completely

746
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 6: There was a lot of the cast it was like

747
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 6: what's happening?

748
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

749
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 6: And then I just showed up on Monday and basically

750
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 6: just took it a day at a time and basically

751
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 6: just sort of prepped and try to put together what

752
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 6: he had.

753
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 5: Shot, what had been planned to be shot.

754
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 6: I tried to There's all issues with the kids because

755
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 6: they were showing up and not working, and you know,

756
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 6: to me, I just tried to make it put all

757
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 6: I could into it. But I did show it too.

758
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 6: I showed the rough cut to my son, who at

759
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 6: the time was young, like he's seven or eight and

760
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 6: a boy, right, and he watched it and put his

761
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 6: hoodie over his head and oh, Dad.

762
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 5: Gotta take it. You got to take your name off this.

763
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: Movie, the first Alan Smith in the history of.

764
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 6: I go, oh, come on, man, you know, like, but

765
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 6: you know, a lot of the things that are appealing

766
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 6: to boys in that movie, like.

767
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 5: The zombieing out and a lot of the effects and

768
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 5: the world. You know, I don't know. I saw like

769
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 5: what it could be, and I thought it.

770
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 6: Was they did something you know, where they just hadn't

771
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 6: done in other movies where they just they chose a

772
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 6: color palette, like it or not. You know, it had rules,

773
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 6: and the world had a definite I could see what

774
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 6: that world could look like. And they created a world

775
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 6: of zombies and they had the great mythology to it.

776
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 6: And so, you know, for me, it was, okay, how

777
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 6: can we just give this some scope because I think

778
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 6: at the beginning it just didn't. It had a lot

779
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 6: of those ideas, but they were like a corner of

780
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 6: a room, you know, And and so I think what

781
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 6: we tried to do is really like sort of blow

782
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 6: out the world and try to just give it scope

783
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 6: and you know it. There was a moment like the

784
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 6: comedy was just so interesting and just weird. I like, Trevor,

785
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 6: I remember, maybe we should just try You need to

786
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 6: just take it down a notch.

787
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 5: And let's let's see. You know, you did it for

788
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 5: me like one take and I go, yeah, just keep

789
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 5: doing what you're doing.

790
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 4: Take us to the day.

791
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: How much anxiety did you have when he said, no, Paul,

792
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: I have to be the one that jumps through that

793
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: giant poster.

794
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 4: It has to be me.

795
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: How well as a director, no, you're not going to

796
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: just like injure yourself.

797
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 4: Well, we've got so many days left of shooting.

798
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: Look, but it was so good, so well, like well,

799
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: I was fastly.

800
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 6: Sort of surprised by things that I don't know that

801
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 6: I necessarily would have gone okay, Because I walked into

802
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 6: this room that had this big, huge like runway that

803
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 6: was built like it was thirty yards long, and.

804
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 5: Two things of this poster that they had printed which

805
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 5: were huge.

806
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 6: And boxes set up for to crash into it, and

807
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 6: I was like, what the hell is this this is

808
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 6: literally spent all this money just for him to run

809
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 6: through this post. The whole thing to me was and

810
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 6: it was a visual effects thing, right because he didn't

811
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 6: actually jump through.

812
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 5: He jumped through the size of a thing that was

813
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 5: his head.

814
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 6: But then it had to be put on to where

815
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 6: the poster was actually hanging.

816
00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 5: Oh couldn't. You couldn't actually build it, you know the way, So.

817
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: You definitely mean that. We got to interview him, and honestly,

818
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 4: I don't know how.

819
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: Long it's lasted, but he absolutely loved and is so

820
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: proud and like that was his favorite thing that he

821
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: did on that first movie, hands down.

822
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 4: That was it.

823
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: He was like, that was the most amazing thing. I

824
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: cannot believe I convinced.

825
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: Paul to actually let me do it because.

826
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 2: There was somebody hired to do it.

827
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he convinced him, Like, no, no, that's got to

828
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: be me.

829
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, okay.

830
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 5: I believe it.

831
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: I feel like I couldn't convince you to do anything.

832
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 4: You were like, are you sure? Like yeah, I got this,

833
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 4: You're like all right?

834
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: Or he is.

835
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 5: Either just an incredibly talented guy.

836
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, And.

837
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 6: There's always like it's not just that that he does

838
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 6: that I think it's crazy. It's all the other stuff,

839
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 6: the tumbling and the flipping, and then you just ask him, oh,

840
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 6: you need to make an entrance here can you do

841
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 6: like some back layover thing and then ended with the

842
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 6: jazz hands.

843
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: Okay, So the movie comes out, it's a smash hit.

844
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: It becomes kind of one of their big tent pole

845
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: franchises for the for the channel.

846
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, what can we expect from the new one?

847
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 5: Well, what can I say about? Definitely handoff to some

848
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 5: younger talent.

849
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: Okay, we've heard, We've heard that.

850
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, we we have new monsters that we have God,

851
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 6: I don't know if what I can say, like the

852
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 6: Super Trouble your Penama.

853
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: The is the the chip the chip in your neck

854
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: from Disney is going to explode?

855
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: Yes, I know.

856
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 6: We have vampires and we have day Walkers. We have

857
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 6: two fantastically talented kids. One Frea who's in it is

858
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 6: She's she's very unexperienced and wonderful and he hasn't done nothing.

859
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 5: She is a trooper.

860
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 6: And then Malachi who's on he was on stuck in

861
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 6: the middle, and I think on the Villains of Valley

862
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 6: Square that right, also talented, and you know, it's it's

863
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 6: you know, the idea is we're just trying to grow

864
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 6: it and I think it's a handoff to sort of

865
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 6: a new generation of bombies fans.

866
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 5: And it's a new world. It's a world of vampires

867
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 5: and day walkers. You know.

868
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 6: Day walkers control the power of the sun and vampires

869
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 6: control the power of the wind.

870
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 5: So they have this elemental thing about and we shot

871
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 5: it in Zealand.

872
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: Yes, that is so rad.

873
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: I feel like Disney hasn't gone to New Zealand And forever.

874
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 5: Since Eddie's Million Dollar Cookoffs.

875
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: Really, so you've now gone twice.

876
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 5: I've gone three times.

877
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 4: Three times. Where's the third one?

878
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 5: That was you wish?

879
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 6: Okay, Eddie's Million Dollar Cookoff, and then it was this

880
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 6: one I tried to get back sooner for because I

881
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 6: thought zombies. It seems like the right place for zombies

882
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 6: because it has a little different of a world already.

883
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of.

884
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 6: So so I really pushed to go back there, and

885
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 6: it's changed a lot. But it's a great place to shoot.

886
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 6: We had a great crew and I think you'll love it.

887
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: Okay.

888
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: It compared to shooting in a vegetarian village, as you

889
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: did in India.

890
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 4: Do you remember when we went.

891
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 5: To that the vegetarian village? Wasn't everything vegetarian?

892
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 4: Didn't we No, there was chicken, chicken, Oh, you're.

893
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 5: Right, I think we had chicken screws.

894
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: It was when we stayed at that Prince's palace, remember

895
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 2: he had Oh yeah, I gotta tell a little this story.

896
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 4: You don't see any of this part in the movie

897
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 4: at all.

898
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: But we walked into the Prince's palace that we're staying at.

899
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: We're literally staying at this place, and one of the

900
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: rooms was his hunting room, and I just like remember,

901
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: I was like like they were everywhere.

902
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 5: He had a table.

903
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: Like giant hunts, not not small, not not even buffalo like,

904
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: these things were giantormous. And he had a table that

905
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: was sat on like on animals, like feet, like hoofs

906
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: of different Okay, so we had already had kind of

907
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: different things that would happen with catering.

908
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: The food did not sit well with me anyway.

909
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 2: So now we now we don't even get to have chicken,

910
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: which was fine sous basically eating peanut butter and apples

911
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: at that point. But we were walking around and this

912
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: place was so it was so such a cool experience.

913
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 4: It was different. It made some of the things with

914
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: production hard. But the village hadn't had anyone like us around.

915
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 4: So it's me, Keeli and Adrian walking around and we

916
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 4: might as well have been purple, pink and blue.

917
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: Like.

918
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: They had never seen someone with blonde hair before. They

919
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: had never seen someone look like Kiley, like our whole

920
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: you know, our whole crew that was from the States

921
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: that was there. The filming for me was just eye

922
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: opening of Wow, we're really going to be in a

923
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: world for Disney that they haven't gone to before, and

924
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: this is going to hopefully open the eyes and you know,

925
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: Disney will hopefully expand here and all this stuff.

926
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 4: And it just felt like when we were.

927
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 5: Doing something India Disney Channel.

928
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 3: So that yeah, yes, geez it, synergy Disney.

929
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 5: It was.

930
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: It was awesome. It was fun because things just weird

931
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: stuff kept happening.

932
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 5: Stories could just do it.

933
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 4: I know they asked me for stories. I'm like, I

934
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 4: don't think I can tell.

935
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 6: Any like, but that place, for example, I was like

936
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 6: dusting off a file folder in my office and we

937
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 6: had to move out of food I pour for and

938
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 6: I picked up these pictures of this that location that

939
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 6: were like in the bottom of a drawer in the desk,

940
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 6: and I hadn't seen them, and.

941
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 5: I go, what what is this place? Like, why aren't

942
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 5: we shooting here?

943
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 8: Look at this, look at this like courtyard, and and

944
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 8: you know, the production designer came, you know, I'm coming

945
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 8: over to see right now and hung up the phone,

946
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 8: and I was like, like, people wanted to shoot there,

947
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 8: but there were some politics, yeah, and they couldn't shoot there,

948
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 8: and so I don't know, we we had to relocate

949
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 8: and we made it work. And it was like this

950
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 8: whole long sequence of you guys driving to get there.

951
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 8: And so as we were driving the whole cast going

952
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 8: to this location.

953
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 6: I remember we had this elephant because when you walked

954
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 6: around there, you saw these things that were amazing, Like

955
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 6: you really saw women was sorry's carrying thatch on their head.

956
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 4: And a giant bowl of like cement blocks. Like the

957
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 4: women were just hardcore.

958
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 5: They worked on the road.

959
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 6: They did everything they they and the men sat around

960
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 6: and smoked and sat at these like checkpoints and pulled

961
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 6: the arm of.

962
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 5: The gate up beautiful by for god knows like what

963
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 5: that job is.

964
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 6: But anyway, and so on our way there, and I

965
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 6: don't know if you were there.

966
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 5: I know you guys were in the car, and we

967
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 5: did a lot of the driving thing, but.

968
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 6: We were shooting the points of view, and we had

969
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 6: this elephant that we that walked like fifteen miles to

970
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 6: get there.

971
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 5: And as we were.

972
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 6: Shooting at this little location that I had perfectly sought out, like, okay,

973
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 6: if we look this way, this is where the women

974
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 6: on the sticks, and over here the goats can come,

975
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 6: and over here the elephant can walk, you know. And

976
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 6: as we're setting up for this carefully, suddenly over the mountains,

977
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 6: like two thousand people and I am not exaggerating come.

978
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 5: Over to watch what's going on down below in this valley.

979
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm like and B like going, tell me what

980
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 6: do you want to shoot? And I'll like clear them away?

981
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 6: And I go, it's impossible, this sun setting. We can't

982
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 6: do anything. So I get in.

983
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 5: I say, get in the car. So we get in

984
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 5: the car and I sit on the hood.

985
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 6: With the camera on my shoulder, and we start to

986
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 6: drive down the highway and I'm on the foot of

987
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 6: the car waiting to make a left turn just to

988
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 6: get off of the highway into the cause I'm figuring like,

989
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 6: if I just get anywhere, I'm going to see all

990
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 6: this stuff and it's going to be fine.

991
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 5: And I go, we turn off the road.

992
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 6: Right as we turn off the road, I see this

993
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 6: goat herder with his goat coming down.

994
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 5: I go, what's roll? And my GANI comes out of

995
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 5: the car and rolls and.

996
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 6: I'm literally like filming this thing as like ghosts come down.

997
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 6: And then we drive by and like, oh look there's

998
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 6: a woman working in the field. Oh look there's some

999
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 6: un stacking bricks on the thing. You know.

1000
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 5: Just me like twenty minutes that the sun was like setting,

1001
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 5: you know. And I got back in the car.

1002
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 6: And Donnie like the DB's like, now that's fricking filmmaking.

1003
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: Oh well, we are going to have to do an

1004
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: entire episode about the Cheetah girls. But for the end

1005
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: of this one, if you don't mind, I'm going to

1006
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: throw two questions that you're not gonna like to answer,

1007
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: because I know they're going to be very difficult, but

1008
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out there anyway. I'm gonna put you

1009
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: on the spot. The first one is what's your favorite

1010
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 1: d com that you shot?

1011
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I don't think I can. I don't

1012
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 5: even think I can. I can't even answer.

1013
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 6: That because they're also they also want It's like asking like,

1014
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 6: which child is your favorite child?

1015
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: But I've been told parents really all do have a

1016
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: favorite child, they just don't say it out loud, right,

1017
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: I'd be closer.

1018
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: How about this, Since you did have kids that did

1019
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: grow up obviously watching them because you were a part

1020
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: of a lot of them, is there one that your

1021
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: kid that was their favorite that you just couldn't seem

1022
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: to get away?

1023
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 6: I would think there, let It Shine is one that

1024
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 6: they are huge fans of. And then I would say

1025
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 6: Lucky the Irish. Those are the two.

1026
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: Luck of the Irish keeps is at the top of

1027
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: most people's It's like, really at the top of a

1028
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: lot of.

1029
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 4: People, it really is. And it still plays a lot.

1030
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like it's such a little simple thing too.

1031
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 3: People loved it.

1032
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: And then the last question, and again putting you on

1033
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: the spot. I won't say favorite because favorite's difficult when

1034
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: it comes to talking about people. But what actor did

1035
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: you work with that the second you saw him or

1036
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: her on screen you.

1037
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 3: Knew this person was going to be a superstar.

1038
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 4: Oh I hope I know this one for you, not me.

1039
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 6: You already you were already doesn't wow that I knew

1040
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 6: they were going to be a superstar. I don't, well, Shia,

1041
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 6: I knew.

1042
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 3: I was wondering if you were going to say Shia.

1043
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 6: I mean, I think because I remember Gary called me

1044
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 6: and said, what do you think about this kid? I go,

1045
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 6: I think he's freaking awesome. I think you we should

1046
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 6: do something with him, for sure, you know, I don't gosh,

1047
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 6: I don't know, Sabrina, who what.

1048
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 5: Were you gonna?

1049
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 4: I would think it would be Milo.

1050
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Milo's pretty, he's he stole that movie.

1051
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 3: I mean, he's phenomenal.

1052
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 2: I mean, and it's the second he gets on camera

1053
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: that you're like, whoa, Yeah, well, I'm.

1054
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 5: Glad you had that of Milo and I were not always.

1055
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: Like okay, fair enough, fair enough, some of the greatest relationships.

1056
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 5: I mean, my god, he's awesome and he's super talented.

1057
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 6: Like I'm not taking anything away from that, but he

1058
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 6: had never done a movie or anything, yeah at all?

1059
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, or he just seems like a leading man and

1060
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: he can dance and sing, I mean, and he's great

1061
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: at it. I think he's one of the best that

1062
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: the channels seen in that aspect. So, I mean he

1063
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: was really great. Again this is and I know I

1064
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: didn't say it yet, but Will told you is. I

1065
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: loved the movie so much that first one. I haven't

1066
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,479
Speaker 2: seen the second one. I had never seen the first one, right,

1067
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: I loved it so much, And I was like, Will.

1068
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 4: If he does like this movie, I swear god I did.

1069
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: I loved it. I thought it was great, super entertaining.

1070
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 4: You made him a fan of musicals, Paul. Something I

1071
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 4: thought you did it would never happen.

1072
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 3: You did it.

1073
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 5: Well, especially that one. I would be surprised.

1074
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 6: I would be like, oh, you like all these other

1075
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 6: movies like Hair, and you didn't like watch the like those?

1076
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 3: Now I was.

1077
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: I liked West Side Story because I was a huge

1078
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: Natalie I had a big crush on Natalie would so

1079
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: and so West Side Story I liked.

1080
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 3: And I mean, I guess technically it's a musical.

1081
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: Willie Wanka and Chocolate Factory is one of my favorite

1082
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: movies of all times.

1083
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 3: So Jeane Wilder can do no wrong.

1084
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 5: In my eyes, you have it in your heart.

1085
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 4: I do.

1086
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 3: I think I just don't have it in my feet.

1087
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 5: Jean Wilder and very similar and west Side story. Zombie

1088
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 5: is one is the same story.

1089
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're so stoked to see the second, and

1090
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: yeah we can and the whole franchise, because if this

1091
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 2: isn't even the first one, isn't even your favorite, it's like,

1092
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: oh god, what is about to hit us?

1093
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 4: Like, oh my gosh, it's going to be so.

1094
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 8: Good, guys, like the other ones.

1095
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 6: I'm sure the two especially, you know, we got to

1096
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 6: start at the beginning and right, it's good. I think

1097
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 6: two is a lot of people's favorite.

1098
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, well, last question.

1099
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: Has there ever been an idea for a dcom that

1100
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: you had that you wanted to do?

1101
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, several of them I had. I just recently

1102
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 6: pitched The Luck of the Irish Too, which I loved,

1103
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 6: and I'm like, god, I just wanted to write anything.

1104
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: Looky theirs two would be great.

1105
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Speaker 6: So fine, Yeah, but the rules of the channel sort of,

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00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 6: I did. I have a synchronized swimming movie which I

1107
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 6: thought I saw the Spanish team like on those some

1108
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 6: Olympics like a few years ago, and so we pitched

1109
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 6: the Sink or Swim, And then I had another Mermaid movie,

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00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 6: which you know, so there's several of them that I

1111
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 6: keep pitching that I want to do and we'll just see.

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00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 5: I still believe in them.

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00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 6: But you know, right now the channel is well of

1114
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 6: the channel, it's really Disney branded television.

1115
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 5: They are all going through, you know, changes.

1116
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 3: The whole industry really is going through these changes.

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00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 6: So yeah, so it's so they need to figure out

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00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 6: what they want to do. And I don't think this

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00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 6: is the death of children's programming by any means, but

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00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 6: it's definitely a reset and a recalibration of of you

1121
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 6: know what, you know, what's the possibilities because that was

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00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 6: definitely the golden age of programming and I don't think

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00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 6: that it's over with, but.

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00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 5: There's hunger for it and we'll just have to see

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00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 5: how it goes.

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00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: Or I told you, if there's a Grandma cheerleader or

1127
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: something needed in the Zombie seven, I'm there's five.

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Speaker 4: I don't care whatever one it is, I'm I'm down.

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00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: He's like, I don't think you're ready for grandma stuff yet.

1130
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 5: I know for sure you're not ready for No.

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00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: Definitely, Hey, if you ever need anybody who can either

1132
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: sing nor dance, I'm your guy. I'm telling you, thank you,

1133
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us busy.

1134
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: This has been so cool.

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00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: I hope you don't mind, but we would love to

1136
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: have you back sometime to continue the conversation because there's

1137
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: just so much.

1138
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 4: To cover, so many of your movies we haven't seen yet.

1139
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 3: I know, I know, we can't wait, we can't wait long.

1140
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 5: Hopefully after you watch them you go like we were

1141
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 5: totally wrong.

1142
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: Wow, we don't need to talk to about Thank you

1143
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: so much, welcome, thanks, bye bye. It's just it's one

1144
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: after another, one after another, tent pole movie, smaller movie,

1145
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: giant movie, media movie. I mean, it's like when you

1146
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: can say you've done just just running the DCM gam it,

1147
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: when you can say you've done Look of the Irish

1148
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: and Zombies, it's like, man and then oh yeah, by

1149
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: the way, one of the Cheetahirls movie, it's like, come on, I.

1150
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: Mean, and how amazing is it? And I mean, definitely

1151
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 2: would that's hard. We didn't even ask him this question

1152
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: about coming into the Cheetah Girls on their third movie

1153
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 2: or Camp Rock on their second movie. How much the

1154
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: channel had to have believed in him and been knew

1155
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: or even what they especially what they did with zombies

1156
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: one knowing Okay, this isn't working out.

1157
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 4: This is the guy. This is the guy that we

1158
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 4: can pull in, not lose all this money and keep

1159
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 4: this production going.

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00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's like su Kreeger right where it's it's

1161
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 1: kind of like, we need somebody to write that's your guy.

1162
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: We need somebody to direct, that's your guy. Like that's it.

1163
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: It seems like they act knew what they had and

1164
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: that's the person that I.

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00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 2: Love knowing just knowing him again, and he touched on

1166
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: it a little bit of how he would go in

1167
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: there and fight for his how he felt the movies

1168
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: would be better and the storylines would be better, and yeah,

1169
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: and you know, always with a big heart and everything,

1170
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: but like to know that like your director would fight

1171
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 2: for your character that way.

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00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 4: That's why so many of the actors we've talked to

1173
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 4: already that have worked with him love working with him

1174
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 4: because the level of trust that you have in your director.

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00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 3: Well, he's an actor's director, you can tell.

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01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: Just for the thing he was saying where it's like,

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01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: now I care more about the relationships and why are

1178
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: you what are you afraid of right now?

1179
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 3: What are you thinking right now? That's an actor's director.

1180
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: That's that's the director you pray you get on the

1181
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: set where yes, I can do the visual stuff and

1182
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm very good at the visual stuff, but let's talk

1183
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: about your performance and what you're feeling and how that's

1184
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: Oh God, you pray for that every day as an act.

1185
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: And I think I think one of the interviews we

1186
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: had said like they'd.

1187
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 4: Be like, oh no, Paul, I think I could do

1188
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 4: it again. He's like, Nope, you got it. Like you did.

1189
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: It's like you're good, and that right there gives you

1190
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 2: confidence of going that far or whatever, you know. And yeah,

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01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: So I loved working with him, and like he said,

1192
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: there's just probably too many stories to talk about.

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01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 3: Oh man.

1194
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: It also seems like these are stories where you need

1195
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: to go have dinner with them because you probably It's like,

1196
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: here's stories we can't really talk about on the pod,

1197
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: but here's what happened.

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Speaker 4: They're not bad.

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Speaker 2: It's just that we're filming a Disney version of India

1200
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: pretty much. And the same time our movie came out

1201
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: was when slum Dog Millionaire came right, right. But the

1202
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: filming process of it was it was pretty tough. You know,

1203
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: I imagine coming against quite a bunch of things that

1204
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: were just popping up on.

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Speaker 1: A daily so man, awesome conversation. Thank you so much

1206
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: Paul Holan for joining us. That was really cool and

1207
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm you know, absolutely want to have him back on

1208
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: the show. And thank you all for joining us to

1209
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: get again a little bit of a glimpse behind the

1210
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: curtain to see how some of these awesome movies are made.

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Speaker 1: We can't wait, so join us next time over on

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01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: the other feed as we talk about I don't even

1213
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: know what our next movie is going to be over there?

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01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 3: Is it is Get a Clue? Next over there? Probably?

1215
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 3: I don't think it is.

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01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 4: I think that's the next one.

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01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: Lindsey Lohans Get a Clue, which was one so well fun.

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01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 3: Well we'll talk about it. Yikes. Go back over and

1219
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 3: check us out, and thank you all for joining us.

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Speaker 3: We will see you next time. Bye.