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Speaker 3: get to that later. Trey's got a top five for us.

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Speaker 3: We got tweeted the night so much more. But first

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Speaker 3: crazy game in Miami last night, Heat down six fifty

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Speaker 3: He's shouting it's over after finding Alex lenn inside for

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Speaker 3: After the game, Trey dropped the old WELP on Twitter

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Speaker 5: Sixty seconds for six points? Think about that. That's a

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Speaker 3: But the heat, Like Jimmy Butler, he's got the monster

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Speaker 4: The chemistry is great. Duncan Robinson was awesome. He was

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Speaker 5: But the Heat were ready to lose their first game

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Speaker 5: just chill. They're almost there. As I said, they'd won

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Speaker 5: someday and it's gonna be by something. Now, they play

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Speaker 3: I'm fascinated to see what pat Riley does with this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was something to watch here, and

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Speaker 3: I need to be myself. This is what Embiide told reporters.

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Speaker 3: But tru or false Embiid is right here with what

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Speaker 4: Tru or false aw so true. Just like Trey. You

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Speaker 5: or it's if he's just not that healthy. But you know,

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Speaker 5: he did have some fun. You said that shot over,

433
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Speaker 5: so he had the Karl Anthony Towns fun earlier this season. Yes,

434
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Speaker 5: he hasn't been putting as many locations on Instagram postgame

435
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Speaker 5: as he used to. But I think it's just that

436
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Speaker 5: he's not as good right now. I don't think it's

437
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Speaker 5: the fun level.

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Speaker 3: A few things. I mean, it's weird these comments. I

439
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Speaker 3: thought it sounded like a guy had lost the game, right,

440
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Speaker 3: Like how he was addressing everybody. They did win this

441
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Speaker 3: game against the Nugget's. It was closed, but they did

442
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Speaker 3: get the W and they're still perfect at home, so

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Speaker 3: that was that was strange. I guess he did struggle

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Speaker 3: down the stretch, no doubt. I mean, he was basically

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Speaker 3: benched in the Raptors game late in that one because

446
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Speaker 3: he had committed those three straight turnovers and then this one, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he missed, you know, a three and then a jumper

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Speaker 3: and then he had another really sloppy turnover on the side,

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Speaker 3: you know again in crunched on before the foul shots.

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Speaker 3: So he sort of redeemed himself. But I think there

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Speaker 3: is truth to this. I mean, look, you're not a

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Speaker 3: chem Elija one man your shack, all right, that's fine,

453
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Speaker 3: lean into that. That's tot. It worked for him, it

454
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Speaker 3: can work for you. Because he talked about that suspension

455
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Speaker 3: and like how I'm never gonna do that again and

456
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Speaker 3: maybe I need to be more mature the one with

457
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Speaker 3: Karl Anthony Towns, right, the two game suspension and all

458
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Speaker 3: the back and forth on is and stuff like that Twitter.

459
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Speaker 3: But that's you're I'm with Trey. It's that's you. If

460
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Speaker 3: that's going to make you feel more comfortable then lean

461
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Speaker 3: into it. It was working. Lean into it. You don't

462
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Speaker 3: need to try and be something you're not or be

463
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Speaker 3: someone you're not. And everyone loved it anyway, So yeah,

464
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Speaker 3: maybe just in his head a little too much here,

465
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Speaker 3: but it was again, it was a funny thing, and like, look,

466
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Speaker 3: you're playing Yokich last night, so you're gonna look a

467
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Speaker 3: lot silly and a lot more having fun than that

468
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Speaker 3: guy right now. Oh my goodness.

469
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Speaker 1: And they were great after the game though, those yea too.

470
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Speaker 1: Joel called him his childhood hero.

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Speaker 4: It's so weird.

472
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Speaker 3: Hey, look, if anybody needs a little pep talk right now,

473
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Speaker 3: it's it's so that will help get him going. He's

474
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Speaker 3: still like you see the stat line, You're like, oh,

475
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Speaker 3: you had a great game. But you know what, how

476
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Speaker 3: long did he go before he took a shot?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think it was the third quarter.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was midway through the second, so was

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Speaker 3: at some point four?

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Speaker 1: I think I thought it was a time where Brett

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Speaker 1: Brett excuse me, Mike Malone got the tech foul on it.

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Speaker 1: I think that was in the third quarter, but maybe

484
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Speaker 1: it was in the second quard. I'm not sure, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: he he had a couple of his little sort of

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Speaker 1: runners and floaters and flickers, and he had some nice passes,

487
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Speaker 1: but he certainly is not able to remain engaged for

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Speaker 1: the entire game right now.

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Speaker 2: And you know, even when you.

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Speaker 1: Look at him on the bench, he looks ghassed and

491
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Speaker 1: he shouldn't be.

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Speaker 3: Two big guys going on a lot of yeah, but yeah,

493
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Speaker 3: Sixer's got the win, all right, next one. Yesterday, in

494
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Speaker 3: a New Player's Tribune piece titled Loyalty over Everything, Damian

495
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Speaker 3: Lillard explained how he will do everything in his power

496
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Speaker 3: to remain a Blazer's guard for life. Quote. I'm saying,

497
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Speaker 3: you think you know how deepness goes, but you have

498
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Speaker 3: no idea. That's what he wrote. When I say that

499
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Speaker 3: I will never ever switch up on the City of Portland,

500
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Speaker 3: I mean what I say. When I say that I

501
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Speaker 3: will never ever switch up on this organization, I mean

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Speaker 3: what I say. True or false. Lillard will be a

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Speaker 3: lifetime Blazer has.

504
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Speaker 2: To be true, now, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: He's said this a couple of times. Yeah, this isn't

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Speaker 3: the first time.

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Speaker 1: His loyaltiy loyalty is admirable, but it might cost him

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Speaker 1: a championship and playoff success. Because like the Blazers aren't

509
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Speaker 1: getting closer to a championship right now that if anything,

510
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Speaker 1: they're drifting a little further away. I think the last

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Speaker 1: couple of seasons they have kind of been, you know, close.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Warriors have always been the best team

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Speaker 1: in the West, but I think they've taken a step

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Speaker 1: back right now, and they've got some issues in terms

515
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Speaker 1: of salary cap and playing personnel. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: CJ's kind of a good compliment to him, but not

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Speaker 1: a great I can't see them taking that super step

518
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Speaker 1: up right now. But that's fine, that's fine. Maybe he

519
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Speaker 1: just wants to stay true to the city and to

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Speaker 1: the team and that is more important to him than

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Speaker 1: potentially winning a championship.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I I'm not sure he should be a Blazer

523
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Speaker 4: for his entire career. And he has been saying this

524
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Speaker 4: time and time again. He's saying, I'm going to recruit

525
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Speaker 4: guys when they've become available. I'm here for the long run.

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Speaker 4: But if he ever wants to win a title, he

527
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Speaker 4: might eventually have to say I did what I could

528
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Speaker 4: you know? Or is he going to be in Derek

529
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Speaker 4: Nevski stand there for has an entire career and then

530
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Speaker 4: one year they just everything falls perfectly right for him.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that does happen, or maybe he's Patrick Ewing and

532
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Speaker 4: he thinks he's gonna win a title, and he builds

533
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Speaker 4: a culture there and he stays as long as he can,

534
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Speaker 4: and then at the end of his career he has

535
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Speaker 4: to go somewhere else because he wants to get a ring.

536
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Speaker 4: Guys are gonna want rings. He'll get a statue.

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Speaker 3: He wants to ring, but he doesn't want it easy.

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Speaker 3: In his words, he's drawn to the struggle. As he wrote,

539
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Speaker 3: this is a fascinating article. I mean that he wrote

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Speaker 3: with the Player's Tribune. It's great. His brother is amazing

541
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Speaker 3: in it. Houston Lillard, He's got zingers left and right.

542
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Speaker 3: It's I highly highly recommend you go read this. It's

543
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Speaker 3: it's fascinating and mean learning more about him.

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Speaker 1: I look at the Kevin Kahanna situation. He was very

545
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Speaker 1: loyal to Minnesota. He always pledged his loyalty, but got

546
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Speaker 1: to the point where he was like, we're not even

547
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Speaker 1: making the playoffs now, and he went to Boston and

548
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Speaker 1: he won a championship. And I don't think anyone holds

549
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Speaker 1: that against him. For being disloyal or anything.

550
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Speaker 4: Like wolves fans are happy for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I look at lilyd in this situation.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, like Kevin Durant in Okay, See,

553
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Speaker 1: he spent nine seasons in ok See. Now people not

554
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Speaker 1: necessarily happy, you know, Okay see that he went to

555
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Speaker 1: Golden State won the championship. But Kevin Durant had done

556
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Speaker 1: all he could for that franchise, and I think Lilid's

557
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: in a similar spot right now. I think if he

558
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Speaker 1: did leave, some fans wouldn't be happy, but I think

559
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Speaker 1: overall a lot of people be like, man, he did

560
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Speaker 1: everything he could for Portland and he deserves a chance

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Speaker 1: to go and try to win a championship somewhere else.

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Speaker 5: I think he's a lifer.

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Speaker 3: I do too.

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Speaker 5: I actually believe I'm guessing. I'm guessing. There's not a

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Speaker 5: lot of them. Obviously in the NBA currently, We've mentioned

566
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Speaker 5: basically all of them recently. You know your Dirk's, you know,

567
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Speaker 5: going back, Reggie Miller did it. There's there hasn't been

568
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Speaker 5: a lot, but a small market guy Damian Litler could

569
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Speaker 5: do it. I think Giannis could do it as well.

570
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Speaker 5: Guys who are sort of been there for several years

571
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Speaker 5: and looks like looks like it could happen.

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Speaker 3: He says in the article. By the way, they might

573
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Speaker 3: switch up on me, that's business, that's basketball, but I

574
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Speaker 3: will never to switch up on the city.

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Speaker 4: That's how you leave out there, because people would have

576
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Speaker 4: said that the same thing about Russell Westbrook after Kevin

577
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Speaker 4: Durant left and he signed his big deal. He's gonna

578
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Speaker 4: stay there forever. He'll never leave. Things changed, And yea,

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Speaker 4: I was ready to go.

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Speaker 3: You're not wrong about that. Let's hear from you, guys.

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Speaker 3: All right on the heels of the Knicks firing David Fizdale.

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Speaker 3: Over the weekend, the Athletics, Sam Amick and John Hollinger

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Speaker 3: took a look at the rest of the coaching landscape,

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Speaker 3: trying to sort of pinpoint who could be the next

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Speaker 3: on the chopping block. They had five candidates worth monitoring,

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Speaker 3: But I want to throw the que at you guys

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Speaker 3: everyone listening, of course, who is the most likely coach

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Speaker 3: to be fired? Next? To be let go next. However

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Speaker 3: you want to word it, does someone jump out to

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Speaker 3: you more than others?

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Speaker 4: It's boiling time.

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Speaker 3: Come on the coach of the year Jim Boyling.

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Speaker 4: Hell, honestly, maybe if he turns it around he can

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Speaker 4: get some Coach of the Year votes at this point,

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Speaker 4: but he came into training camp talking about we're making

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Speaker 4: the playoffs this year. That's the goal. And now he's

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Speaker 4: talking about this season is all about player development because

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Speaker 4: they keep blowing fourth quarter leads. I think they've blown

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Speaker 4: a fourth quarter lead invery single game this season. It's

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Speaker 4: not true, but it definitely feels like it. They have

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Speaker 4: no wins versus five hundred teams so far this season,

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Speaker 4: but amongst the three worst teams in the league, the Knicks, Cavs,

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Speaker 4: and Warriors, they've lost four times.

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Speaker 3: So that's cool.

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Speaker 4: The Bulls do have a four game road trip coming up.

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Speaker 4: It ends on December twenty third. Their next game isn't

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Speaker 4: until December twenty eighth, so I'm thinking we might have

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Speaker 4: another Christmas Eve firing on our hands. Happened to Scott

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Speaker 4: Skiles years ago with the Bulls, so I don't know,

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Speaker 4: Maybe you lose that game December twenty third, you say

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Speaker 4: bye bye to boil In and take a couple of

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Speaker 4: days off, celebrate the holidays with your families, and everybody

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that Mike D'Antoni is a virtual

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Speaker 1: certainty TV not coaching Houston next season.

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Speaker 2: The Rockets are just waiting for a bit of a.

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Speaker 1: Slump maybe and a bit of an opportunity to say,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's get rid of you now and try

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Speaker 1: to start the search VENEXE.

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Speaker 3: Because you're pretty convinced he's not going to be there

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Speaker 3: after this season.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: I mean they tried to start negotiations in the off

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Speaker 1: season and that were cut off by the Rockets. So

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Speaker 1: that sends a pretty strong message that like, we don't

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Speaker 1: want you back.

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Speaker 5: And they cut some of his assistant coaches players at season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they've sent him messages to say you're not

650
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Speaker 1: coming back. We also, we just don't really want to

651
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Speaker 1: pay a second guy right now. We're prepared to do

652
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Speaker 1: it at some point if you if the seam starts losing,

653
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Speaker 1: but you know what, things are going okay right now,

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Speaker 1: so you can keep going.

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Speaker 3: But I can't think if they hit a slide of

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Speaker 3: some sort.

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Speaker 1: I think if they dropped four rows, you know, losing

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Speaker 1: at home to the Kings, is you know, on a

659
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Speaker 1: buzzer beat, of course, not great. But if the Rockets

660
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Speaker 1: were somehow to drop the next you know, three or four,

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Speaker 1: then I think I think dan Toni's gone.

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Speaker 5: I think it's boiling. I agree, they're so close every

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Speaker 5: night front off as me believe. You know, if we

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Speaker 5: had a coach in there who could coach these guys,

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Speaker 5: we get some wins. Asre mentioned, it was Toronto on Monday,

666
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 5: Miami on Sunday, Golden Stin on Friday. Their last three

667
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 5: games should have all been w's, but they couldn't execute

668
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Speaker 5: at the end. And I think he's having a bit

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Speaker 5: of a problem coaching Zach Lavine his best player as well.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's some our colleague Moddakuel posted some video

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Speaker 5: of Levine calling off ISOs or calling off screens to

672
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Speaker 5: run ISOs. Jim Boyle and said, uh uh, come come here, Zach,

673
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Speaker 5: I want you to run a pick and roll. Man.

674
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Speaker 5: They go back on the floor. This was on Friday night.

675
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 5: Sack says, huh huh, get that pick away from me.

676
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Speaker 5: I'm doing this my own, my own way. Just clanks

677
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Speaker 5: a three after doing that, so, uh there's some trouble there,

678
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Speaker 5: and uh as as trade matches, like they think they

679
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Speaker 5: are better than they are, so maybe they think somebody,

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Speaker 5: a veteran coach, can get a little bit more out

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Speaker 5: of those guys and execute down the stretch because it's

682
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Speaker 5: it's like clockwork. Four minutes left in the game. Okay,

683
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Speaker 5: they're up, two minutes left in the game, Okay, they're up,

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Speaker 5: and then the last minute they just give it up.

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Speaker 4: It's such a bummer too, because it always is when

686
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Speaker 4: the starters come back into the game that they blow

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Speaker 4: the lead. Like the bench is doing a fair job

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Speaker 4: of at least keeping the game close. Sometimes they're pushing

689
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Speaker 4: out to a lead and then Levin and Marketing come

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00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: back in and it's over because they are trapping every

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Speaker 4: single pick and roll. Leavin and Marketing are not fast

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Speaker 4: enough to play that kind of system, so guys are

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Speaker 4: getting wide open shots, and then neither of those guys

694
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Speaker 4: is able to draw fouls inside and that's a problem.

695
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Speaker 4: You saw the drive against the Raptors where Levine goes

696
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Speaker 4: up and people are thinking maybe he should throw an

697
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Speaker 4: alley up to Daniel Gafford the guy doesn't pass the ball.

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Speaker 4: He also isn't able to get that foul off Marc

699
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Speaker 4: Gasol because he goes in and he kind of fades away.

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Speaker 4: I don't it's just not a strength of his right now,

701
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Speaker 4: John Fowls, and you got to have somebody that can

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Speaker 4: get easy points down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: I think the Lavigne relationship with the coach, like you

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Speaker 3: were saying, their task is important here in a good

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Speaker 3: reason why he maybe eventually can because I mean, it

706
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Speaker 3: doesn't feel like they respect Jim Boyling. I mean it

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Speaker 3: feels more like they think he's a clown and that

708
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Speaker 3: they've tuned them out. So when that happens, that's never

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Speaker 3: a good situation. And they're ultimately going to just stop

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Speaker 3: listening to him, start obviously turning to assistant coaches or

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Speaker 3: to you know, is themselves eternally or just whatever, going

712
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Speaker 3: for their own numbers, and then everybody's like, you know,

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Speaker 3: lost the hold of the rope. So yeah, I can't

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Speaker 3: believe my Coach of the Year picked Jim Boyling probably

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Speaker 3: gonna get candidate.

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Speaker 4: They're still playing.

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Speaker 2: Fred Hoypeg though. I think the Bulls, well.

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Speaker 4: That's they're they're not because he is a college coach.

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Speaker 3: Now that's awesome, but that but that is the wild

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Speaker 3: card and all of this the crazy bulls organization and

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Speaker 3: the decisions they make or do not make, and maybe

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Speaker 3: that is why Boiler does survive. But we will seal

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Speaker 3: it here from you guys. With all of these, let

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Speaker 3: us know hashtag no ducks next coach to be fired?

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Speaker 3: All right, we got some top five fun here.

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Speaker 6: Tom By top five, top five, tom By top Fine,

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Speaker 6: top five, tom By, top By, top five.

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Speaker 1: Top By, top Time, top five.

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Speaker 4: We got a top five. But we also have a

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Speaker 4: tease for speech stuffing because this is an email from

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Speaker 4: Todd w who writes, Hey, duncle Dwarf's I was watching

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Speaker 4: Harry Potter the other day. I was thinking about how

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Speaker 4: Harry's dad was a magician, and that Harry's viewed in

734
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Speaker 4: magic circles as being much greater than his father at

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Speaker 4: his profession. They're always talking down at the leaky cauldron.

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Speaker 4: Who's the best in the Potter family? Got Todd thinking

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Speaker 4: which sons in the NBA have had better careers than

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Speaker 4: their fathers. The obvious one is Stephen Dell Curry, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: Who do you guys choose? Maybe a top five if

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Speaker 4: it hasn't already been done, Thanks Todd. Great idea, but

741
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Speaker 4: a top five NBA sons who are better than their

742
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Speaker 4: dads is a little bit too easy. So this is

743
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Speaker 4: your top five sons who are better than their dads

744
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Speaker 4: in all sports, all sports included. At number five, we're

745
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 4: sticking with basketball. Kobe Bryant much better than Joe Jellybean Bryant.

746
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant is one of the all time greats. You

747
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: might not have him in your top ten, but he's

748
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Speaker 4: a legend. He's a Hall of Famer. Joe Bryant was

749
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Speaker 4: a guy who was in the NBA. At number four,

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Speaker 4: this one may be controversial, especially amongst you Canadians. Brett

751
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Speaker 4: Hull is better than Bobby Hollow.

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00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: Wow. They're both great players.

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00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 4: Both great players, both Hall of famers if I'm not mistaken.

754
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 4: Bobby a twelve time All Star, Wow won a Cup

755
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: one time, two time MVP, Leveley points three times. Brett

756
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: a three time All Star. He's got two Cups and

757
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Speaker 4: one MVP. So maybe the individual success isn't quite there

758
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 4: for Brett, but he does have his dad on career

759
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 4: points and career goals. That one's a tough coach.

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Speaker 3: I think you're wrong. I think the Golden Jet Bobby Hall.

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Speaker 5: I don't think Dad is. I don't care. I really

762
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Speaker 5: don't care. Who's better? Brett said, I'm not Canadian, so

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Speaker 5: he loses in my books.

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Speaker 4: All right, strike it from the record. We're gonna have

765
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Speaker 4: to move somebody up. Al Horford, who's better than Tito Horford?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay? Number three Peyton Manning much better than

767
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: Archie Manning. Oh yeah, Archie Manning put up some stats

768
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: for the Saints, but his teams were really bad. Peyton

769
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 4: Manning one of the four best quarterbacks. And then bel history.

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Speaker 4: Is Eli Manning better than Archie Manning? You tell me,

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Speaker 4: cousin sal at Number two. Ken Griffy Junior much better

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00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: than Ken Griffy Senior?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? What was Ki graf Senior? Pretty good though he

774
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: seems to be all right?

775
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

776
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 4: One two World Series with the Big Red Machine, This

777
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Speaker 4: sins and Eddie Red's three time All Star about Ken

778
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: Griffy Junior is an icon six hundred and thirty career

779
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 4: home runs, never got a World Series, but everybody in

780
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 4: the world knows how to do his swing, including test metals.

781
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 4: Check our Twitter later.

782
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 3: Listen, did you ever get close season? Ken Griffy Jr.

783
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: Like to any championship? Like, I can't remember much postseason success. Yeah?

784
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Speaker 5: He played uh was it one season with his dad?

785
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Speaker 5: They played the same in the same outfield.

786
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Pretty neat, pretty neat.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to Jay Buhner, one of my favorites on

790
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: the Seattle Mariner teams.

791
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 5: Jay Buhner mentioned Edgar Martinez already this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

793
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, tweet us your favorite nineteen nineties Seattle Mariners. Shout

794
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: out Joey Korra.

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Speaker 5: Al right, p segeal that RD Randy Johnson killed.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if Randy Johnson's dad was any good

797
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Speaker 4: at baseball, but I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Big

798
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Speaker 4: Unit over his dad anyways. The number one son who

799
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Speaker 4: is better than his dad in the sporting world, The

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Speaker 4: Rock better than Rocky Johnson. I mean maybe Rocky john

801
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Speaker 4: it was great. I don't know, but the Rock is

802
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: the greatest wrestler of all time.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm too bold?

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00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 5: No, I know, I mean I agree?

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Speaker 2: Is he the best? Most?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: Okay, who's on your Mount Rushmore? It's gotta be Hogan.

808
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 4: Flair Yeah, and then probably Stone Cold in the Rock.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 1: That's my my four on my Well, who's the better

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Speaker 1: actor out of Rocky in the Rock?

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Speaker 4: I don't know that Rock. I don't know that rock

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00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 4: He's ever been in a movie. Meanwhile, they made five

814
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 4: seasons of Ballers. Can you believe they made five seasons?

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Speaker 4: The Rock is in every single movie. There's a Jumanji

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Speaker 4: two coming out.

817
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: The Rock is so famous.

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00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 4: I mean, the Rock is so famous.

819
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Speaker 3: I know tasks the book I'm sure you guys did

820
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: to Chase Serano's movies and other things. There's a whole

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Speaker 3: chapter on would this movie be better worse for the

822
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 3: same with the Rock in it? Very funny, very very

823
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Speaker 3: funny chapter like the Rocket, Titanic and the Rock. Basically, yeah,

824
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Speaker 3: that's great.

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00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 4: A couple of honorable mentions from the entertainment world. Scott

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00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 4: Khan better than James Kahn, Enrique Glacia is better than

827
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 4: Julio Glaciers, Trey Kirby better than Steve Kirby. Lock it in, okay,

828
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 4: Scott Cohn is not better than James conn That's a

829
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 4: great list.

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Speaker 3: I love it good. So who's the who said that?

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Speaker 3: In Todd Todd W Todd W. Dad I'll tell you that.

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00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: Lock it in all right, Lee tweeted.

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Speaker 2: The night.

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Speaker 5: Tweet over night, Wow, Twitter.

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Speaker 2: When does the night end in the next day?

836
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: Because it is because right now tonight in Toronto is

837
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: the big return of Kawhi Leonard. Los Angeles Clippers are

838
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: in Toronto and there's obviously a lot of a lot

839
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: of build up to this game and the athletics. Eric

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00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: Kreene tweeted this this morning via billboards, the most intimate

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00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: form of communication raptors. I thank Kawhi and Kawhi uy

842
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: and you balance.

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00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, giant billboard in the Toronto version of Times Square

844
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 3: down in the square. It's all it says, right, It

845
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 3: just says thank you Toronto as Kawhi holding a basketball,

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Speaker 3: and that's it.

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00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: And uh, I'm monitoring it right now because they're having

848
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: shoot around in Toronto right now, the Clippers and and

849
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: I don't think Kawhi has even been seen yet, so

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00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: they're not sure if he's snuck in through a you know,

851
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: a secret entrance.

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00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 3: Maybe oh we had I don't know. I can't remember

853
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: if it was my buddy Grishard Joel whoever sent it

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00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 3: to our WhatsApp group here this morning. Someone was saying

855
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: Kawhi wasn't playing tonight. I don't know if they were

856
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: just tweeting this or sharing this to rile somebody up.

857
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 3: But we were like, what are you talking about?

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00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 5: Who is your source?

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00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I'll literally tell you what. I'll tell you,

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00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 3: whether it was Joel or whether no No Grisham says

861
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: true story, Kawhi is sitting tonight's game week and then

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00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: Joel's he is, and no one else responded because it's dumb.

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00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 5: I don't know what the heck CHRISTI that's the problem.

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Speaker 5: That's the problem with social media. Probably got it from

865
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Speaker 5: Twitter or Instagram or Instagram, some weirdo posting a photo

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Speaker 5: of Kawhi with a lame quote caption I'm not playing tonight.

867
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Speaker 5: What are you readings? But I did my buddyris get

868
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Speaker 5: some sources.

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Speaker 3: I got worried for one second though, because I'm like, oh,

870
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: is that why they're doing the pregame ceremony? Like they

871
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: knew he wouldn't be playing, they didn't want to do

872
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: it during the game.

873
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Speaker 1: I like breaking news. Kawhi is talking with the reporters.

874
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, yesterday's show, we were we were talking about

875
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 3: whether or not Kawi would even take the mic, like

876
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: would they or they would give it to him? I

877
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: guess too, being an opposing player. Well, we'll find that

878
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: out tonight. And what was he over?

879
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 5: Under?

880
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 3: Would we set the line up? How many words?

881
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 5: Right?

882
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 3: So if he does take the mic, he's got the under,

883
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: I've got the over So yeah, I got nine words

884
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: and more.

885
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: You're feeling pretty good?

886
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, And again I guess it's possible he doesn't

887
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: even take it. There's also I'm seeing, like whatever the

888
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: day being here, people saying, oh, are people gonna boo?

889
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: Let me tell you right now, there ain't. No one

890
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 3: is going to boo him during like the ceremony, No one.

891
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: He's going to get a standing ovation guarant teed, guaranteed

892
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: that that's happening. So I mean, yeah, within the game, Okay,

893
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: then then all bets are off. But did you see

894
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: the Raptors release the fun Guy video trip? Yes, that

895
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: was pretty well done, right?

896
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: Interesting they released it like already, isn't that I want

897
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: as many people as possible to see it.

898
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: Will it be yeah? Will it be the It will

899
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 3: be like the same video tonight, We'll have a new one.

900
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 3: We will find out soon enough.

901
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 5: There are a lot of reporters around cowhile Enard.

902
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, geez, I'm sure he loves that.

903
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: What do you guys think about what Eric Creane said,

904
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 4: don't retire his jersey, but build a statue of the

905
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 4: shots celebration the squad.

906
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: The squad shot honestly be a wicked statue to go

907
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: take photos with because you can just drop down like.

908
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: Man, yeah, that's a good idea though, because I mean

909
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: that is gonna be the biggest moment in Toronto history

910
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: for a long time.

911
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 2: I think.

912
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I can't see it really being overtaken.

913
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: I mean, sure something crazy could happen, but for that

914
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: guy to come in for one season, do that win

915
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: the championship and everything.

916
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: And that's a notable iconic pose toy he's standing in

917
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 4: and you think about what's actually outside of Scotia Bank Arena,

918
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 4: Like they have that thing that looks like a bunch

919
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 4: of hockey players are jumping over the boards. They're into

920
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 4: like an action statue. So I'm into it too.

921
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like even trying to think, like what else

922
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 3: that statue could be of him?

923
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: The only well good shot I guess, Like.

924
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the fading away.

925
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess maybe, but I think the pose is

926
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: more that'd be better'd be funner.

927
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I also I guess maybe when they win

928
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Speaker 3: the championship, there is the tyle lowry sort of draped

929
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 3: off them, and Kawi's got the arms both up. That

930
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: looks sort of cool too, But that's the two of them. Yeah, no,

931
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Speaker 3: I'm I'm on board for the squat statue. Sign me up?

932
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Speaker 3: it was it's sixers who Vegas got this one right.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you Philly was favored by four and a half.

957
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Speaker 3: They won by five. That's a win for Tast, that's

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Speaker 3: I took the nugs. God, it was close. I needed

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Speaker 3: it too. I needed it because I'm trailing here in

961
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 3: the somewhat short month in December. I'm two and five,

962
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: Lee's five and two, Tast three and four, Trade four three.

963
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: Tonight's game, It's gotta be right. We gotta go clips wraps.

964
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 5: Right, gotta go Clips Raps. It is the biggest game

965
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 5: of the night, no question. It's not just because a

966
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: few of us were born in the beautiful country of Canada.

967
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 5: It is the first game on ESPN tonight, Clippers visiting

968
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 5: the Raptors. The line been jumping all over the place.

969
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if that's for Freddie van Vliet or

970
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 5: because Grisham is dropping these rumors about Kawhi Leonard not playing.

971
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 5: Fred van Vliet is questionable for tonight, but I think

972
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 5: the line is settled at two and a half. We'll

973
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 5: go up to three and a half where I had

974
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 5: it I saw it earlier. So the Raptors getting three

975
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 5: and a half point tonight, the defending champs getting plus

976
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 5: three and a half points.

977
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: Oh man, this looks tough. I don't know what I'll

978
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: hop on the Raptors.

979
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: Wow.

980
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to look good in front of your ex.

981
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 4: I remember when I went to homecoming the year after

982
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: i'd broken up with my girlfriend, showed up with a beard,

983
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: not like this one, but you know she didn't like

984
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 4: me having a beard anyway. She's like, you have a beard.

985
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 5: Now.

986
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, Julie, I do in your face on

987
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 4: my face?

988
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 3: Okay, so you've got wraps, you got plus three and

989
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 3: a half, raps lee, Yeah, you're five and two mans,

990
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: you're feeling it. Whe're you going?

991
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 2: I think the Clippers have got enough.

992
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: The Raptors, uh just haven't been playing all that great lately.

993
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: I think Kawhi as well.

994
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: He wants to sort of say, hey, I've still got

995
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: a nice be Remember I'm petrified.

996
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: I'm petrified. I'll be honest.

997
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: Boy, you know he wants to show up to he'sail.

998
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 4: Give me boy booting.

999
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of something that.

1000
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: Tray he said, but it's not really working.

1001
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: So you guys the Clips. I was gonna say, I'm

1002
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 3: worried that I don't know. This is the old Raptors

1003
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: fan coming out to me. That the Clippers just hammer

1004
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: the Raptors tonight. And then the storyline is all like,

1005
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: oh God, look at theirs strugglings. I would get a

1006
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: couple of watches in a row. Well, I guess they

1007
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: got the Bulls win when it wasn't you know, all

1008
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: that inspiring. Oh man, I can't do it. Give me

1009
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: the wraps plus three and a half.

1010
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 5: You bet against them last week, you can't do it again.

1011
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 5: I'm definitely betting against them. Clippers I think will show

1012
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 5: up for Kawhi Leonard, just like they did on Monday

1013
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 5: night and they showed up for Paul George against the

1014
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 5: Indiana Pacers. They beat the Raptors earlier this season, and

1015
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 5: the Raptors aren't playing well.

1016
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: Give me the clips, all right, Lee and Task have

1017
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 3: the clips. They got to win by four or more.

1018
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 3: Train I have the Raps. It should be a fun one.

1019
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: Early start, early start, gonna getverybody in their seats six

1020
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Speaker 3: forty five for the Kawai ceremony. We'll we even I

1021
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: guess we'll see it, of course on Twitter, but that

1022
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 3: game's on ESPN. I wonder how they're gonna handle that.

1023
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: That's an early, early start. Guys, New Beach step in

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Speaker 3: Don't forget to check out all the other great shows

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Speaker 4: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 4: Love you guys awesome.

1033
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Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us, and remember Julie doesn't like beards.

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Speaker 3: Brace the day, people.

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Speaker 6: You could stay.

1036
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Speaker 3: Every day.

1037
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Speaker 2: Can I be happy every minute.

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Speaker 4: It's done?

1039
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Speaker 3: So long with your funapay

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Speaker 5: Already, It's gonna be goody