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Speaker 1: of course, the founder of Fish on First. I'll be

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Speaker 1: We got Isaacazoot and Kevin Barral. They were on location

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Speaker 1: in Jupiter here on Pitchers and Catchers Day and something New.

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Speaker 1: former Locked On Marlin's host, the former Marlins nine hosts

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Speaker 1: before that, Jeremiah Geiger. Welcome to the family.

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah excited to be here. Guys, cannot wait for the season.

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Speaker 1: We are throwing you in the deep end on a

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Speaker 1: let's talk business. Let's talk first about two new pictures

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Speaker 1: joining the Marlins organization not official yet, will be official

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Speaker 1: Willians's bait in the coming days. Chris Paddock reuniting with

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Speaker 1: the former twenty fifteen Marlins draft pick and then free

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Speaker 1: agent lefty John King, that coming in just a few

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Speaker 1: but a couple veteran additions to this Marlins organization. So

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Speaker 1: let's uh, Jeremiah will get chewed at lead off here.

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Speaker 1: Between these two deals between Paddock and King, which of

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Speaker 1: rundown in terms of how they fit and why you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for King that was the guy that

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Speaker 2: You you couple that with the defense the Marlins are

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Speaker 4: It seems that the sinker was just up to put

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Speaker 5: I think that if he fixes a sinker, he could still.

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Speaker 4: So I don't mind that signing. I actually think it

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Speaker 5: He just needs to get that sinker down, and I

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Speaker 4: seventh or or was seventh or eighth in Baseball amongst

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Speaker 4: You know, if he's going to be in the zone,

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Speaker 5: Good chance to sign at four million dollars and Marlins

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Speaker 1: Mhm m. We know, Isaac that you were hearing that

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, without a doubt you mentioned it. Josh Simpson

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, now we have to play everybody's favorite game,

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Speaker 1: which is that who's the odd man out in this situation? Kevin,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sure, honestly. I mean, you look at it. Peterson,

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Speaker 3: Least with the lefties. Yeah, go ahead here.

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Speaker 6: That's why you trade him.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he's contributing to the New Orleans this season.

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Speaker 1: position players as well as we could get to considering

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Speaker 1: the proximity to Miami and the fact that so many

435
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Speaker 1: players make their kind of year round home in this area,

436
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Speaker 1: and an interesting off the field update as well when

437
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Speaker 1: it comes to the development of that facility, the big

438
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Speaker 1: project they've been working on for a couple of years

439
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 1: is finally coming to fruition in terms of bringing that

440
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Speaker 1: facility into the mid twenty twenties. You know, it's in

441
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Speaker 1: the twenty first century already, but updating it to be

442
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Speaker 1: competitive with some of the better spring facilities in all

443
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Speaker 1: of baseball. So give us the rundown, Kevin, I guess

444
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Speaker 1: start with the Yes, start with the Jupiter Academy and

445
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Speaker 1: those associated developments for people that might not be in

446
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Speaker 1: the weeds on that stuff and the impact they could

447
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Speaker 1: have on the organization.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So, as we know, this has been in the

449
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Speaker 6: works for quite a bit now. As we know, they

450
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 6: were supposed to tear down buildings, and then you know,

451
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 6: they brought the building back up, and then they were

452
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Speaker 6: supposed to tear it down again, and then they didn't

453
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Speaker 6: tear it down, and they were supposed to do multitude

454
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Speaker 6: of things that they ended up having to switch around

455
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Speaker 6: here and there because of permits or and whatever. Maybe right,

456
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Speaker 6: but they ended up doing it this offseason. They underwent

457
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Speaker 6: phase one of what I believe are going to be

458
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 6: three phases to this Jupiter Academy. Now, so there's the

459
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Speaker 6: Academy the Dominican Republican. Now it is the Jupiter Academy.

460
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Speaker 6: So that will be the name of it year round.

461
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Speaker 6: It is not just going to be for the miners.

462
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Speaker 6: It will also be for the major leagues. That was

463
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Speaker 6: actually specifically mentioned. But we walk right in through the

464
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 6: player parking area and then the infamous wall that used

465
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Speaker 6: to say Miami Marlins is now looking a lot different.

466
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Speaker 6: As you could see, they have a meaning behind this.

467
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Speaker 6: Alex Parker, the chief brand officer, started off with kind

468
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Speaker 6: of noting like it should it should the meanings like growth,

469
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Speaker 6: like growth as an organization. And it was a very

470
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Speaker 6: interesting meaning behind this.

471
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Speaker 3: I don't it symbolizes growth and sustainability.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that exactly. But regardless, this this just got finished

473
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Speaker 6: today because when I got there, it was not done.

474
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Speaker 6: They were working on it. But man, you got to

475
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Speaker 6: give credit to the Marlins where credit is due. This

476
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 6: looks phenomenal. I mean just from the building inside the clubhouse.

477
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Speaker 6: For anyone who's been into that Jupiter Clubhouse, Carver isaac Eli, like,

478
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Speaker 6: you wouldn't think that Jupiter Clubhouse looked the way it

479
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 6: did last year when you walk in there, I mean,

480
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Speaker 6: it looks phenomenal. They got a lot of player feedback,

481
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Speaker 6: especially with the lockers themselves. They're all electronic, like they'll

482
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Speaker 6: have power, even the ones that are in the middle,

483
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Speaker 6: you for like the NRIs or whatever it may be, Like,

484
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 6: they all have power so you can charge your phone whatever.

485
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 6: That was a big issue. They'll have locks like.

486
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Speaker 5: It looks great.

487
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Speaker 6: The pool tables there, you have the big Marlin's logo

488
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Speaker 6: on the top of the roof. The roof is a

489
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Speaker 6: lot taller. Last year the roof was very it was

490
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Speaker 6: a very low roof. When you played Papa Shot. Where

491
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 6: the players played Papa Shot, it would hit the roof.

492
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Speaker 6: So that is not an issue anymore. But you look

493
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Speaker 6: at you know, they have a new dining area, a

494
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Speaker 6: huge kitchen.

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Speaker 5: We walked through it.

496
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Speaker 6: It was a little tough to record some of this

497
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Speaker 6: stuff because you just have random players and they're like,

498
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 6: you know, in the player lounge. It was just Maximyron,

499
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 6: Brax and Garrett in there, so you don't kind of

500
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Speaker 6: you don't really want to record all that stuff, but

501
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Speaker 6: it looks awesome. The Martins did a very good job

502
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Speaker 6: with this, and Phase two is gonna have a pitching

503
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Speaker 6: lab and I believe a hitting lab as well, so

504
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 6: the batting cages are going to get an update as well.

505
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Speaker 6: But this looks great. This is really good. The moms

506
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 6: did a great job with this, and a lot of

507
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Speaker 6: the players are happy about Braxton Garrett, who's been here

508
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Speaker 6: since twenty sixteen. You know, he kind of mentioned just

509
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 6: how much they needed a weight room, and the weight

510
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 6: room is one of the biggest offs seen in a

511
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 6: very long time, and they said it's like the Marlins

512
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 6: one back in Miami, but three times as big. So

513
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Speaker 6: that was really encouraging to see. The braining is great.

514
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Speaker 6: Alex parkerzire kind of to talk about the braining and

515
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 6: all that stuff with the fighting fish and they said

516
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Speaker 6: they're going to try to honor the past history as

517
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 6: well throughout the academy. But yeah, this is great. I

518
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 6: mean that the football field everything, it's very well done

519
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 6: and they're still working on it. We went there today

520
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 6: and there was a lot of construction going on, so

521
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Speaker 6: they're not done.

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Speaker 1: And elsewhere, Isaac. When it comes to what you saw

523
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Speaker 1: on the fields today, I know that we saw some

524
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Speaker 1: as well as the case last year. The fact that

525
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Speaker 1: they're getting right after it in live batting practice on

526
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Speaker 1: day one, which was a change from the previous organization,

527
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Speaker 1: and a lot of something that was kind of unusual

528
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Speaker 1: across small baseball. The fact that they have guys in

529
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Speaker 1: camp that are taking live abs against each other from

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Speaker 1: the very startup camp, even a week and a half

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Speaker 1: before the games themselves begin. So did can we glean

532
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Speaker 1: we take away anything from getting a peek at the

533
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Speaker 1: guys who threw and the guys who were in the box,

534
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Speaker 1: was any sort of notable interactions and quality of swings

535
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Speaker 1: when it comes.

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Speaker 3: To those matchups, aside from health, not really we know

537
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Speaker 3: At this stage and spring and for the next three

538
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 3: weeks anyway, the pitchers are significantly ahead of a hitter,

539
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 3: so you can't really put too much weight on any

540
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 3: one of those AB's. But it was good to see

541
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Speaker 3: Braxton and already throw again. I mean, just to add

542
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Speaker 3: to really quick what Kevin was describing about the facility,

543
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Speaker 3: It honestly looks like a college campus. I think that's

544
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Speaker 3: what I was looking for. It genuinely looks like a

545
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Speaker 3: small campus for like a college, a bunch of college

546
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Speaker 3: kids walking around. They really, they really did an incredible job.

547
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Speaker 3: I think Kevin described it well. It was awesome. And

548
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 3: then on the field, it's great to see, you know,

549
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Speaker 3: hear the sound of the bat hit the ball again,

550
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 3: and see all these guys throw and pfps and all that.

551
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: It's not as much fun until full squad reports, but

552
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: you just see the casual turning double plays and just

553
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: doing all the infield defense and outfield defense that you

554
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 3: usually do usually see, but not much on the field, unfortune.

555
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 3: But it was great to talk to Clayton again and

556
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: talk to some players in the clubhouse afterward, which Kevin

557
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: mentioned is incredibly renovated. It's almost like a hostel over

558
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Speaker 3: to a five story penthouse. It looks incredible with the difference.

559
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Speaker 3: So no other than that, not much else, I guess noting.

560
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Speaker 6: The only one that that didn't report was was Foschek,

561
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Speaker 6: who's obviously gonna have his arm hearing or whatever they

562
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Speaker 6: call that now. But Nardi, how did he look? I

563
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Speaker 6: didn't watch it. I know most of us missed that

564
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 6: one unfortunately. Uh but he he was throwing at pitch design.

565
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Speaker 6: So so they're doing pitch designs on one field and

566
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Speaker 6: then the live AB's on another one. So so Nardi

567
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Speaker 6: was under the pitch design category, if you want to say,

568
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Speaker 6: and and then Braxton through the live VP with I

569
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 6: think Kate Gibson, Josh Acknes and Max s Meyer threw

570
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Speaker 6: a lot VP. So that that was the group there

571
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Speaker 6: for the pitch design. It was like Tyler Phillips, Nardi,

572
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 6: Nigel Belgrave and and Zach Britsky. Is that Britzy, I

573
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Speaker 6: think is how you say it. So that was the

574
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Speaker 6: group for that. But yeah, no, it was. It was

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Speaker 6: good to be back out there for sure. I mean

576
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Speaker 6: it's been a while, and I think there was a

577
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Speaker 6: lot more excitement just given we were going to see

578
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 6: this Jupiter Academy renovated, and I mean once the full

579
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Speaker 6: squad reports and next year even we're going to see

580
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Speaker 6: forgot to even mention it's the backfields are going to

581
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Speaker 6: get redone as well in phase two of this, so

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Speaker 6: that kind of goes more for the minor league side

583
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Speaker 6: of things. And they also noted, like you know, they

584
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Speaker 6: use this facility year round for the minor leagues for

585
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 6: the perfect games and high school baseball games and all

586
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Speaker 6: that stuff, so it's not just for the major leaguers

587
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Speaker 6: and Jupiter Hammerheads, but also you know, SCL and high schools.

588
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Speaker 6: But yeah, this was It was a fun first day.

589
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Speaker 6: Tomorrow should be interesting, assuming we get a couple of

590
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 6: roster moves efficient and finalized. But yeah, no, good first day.

591
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 6: Nothing crazy to take away coming totally honest.

592
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Speaker 4: Just to call it out as a last on this

593
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Speaker 4: ELF for this this facility which looks amazing, and Isaac

594
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: and Kevin got to look at it today and we

595
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Speaker 4: you know, I will soon and ProCheck and everybody else

596
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 4: will and have their own takes. But for those that

597
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 4: say that the Marlins don't spend money, I think that

598
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 4: this proves you wrong. I will tell you the cost

599
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Speaker 4: of this. And it's not just the Marlins that are

600
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Speaker 4: on the hook for this, it's also the Cardinals. Yes

601
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 4: it'll be both teams, and yes the county is helping,

602
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: and yes there's bonds and stuff like that that are

603
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: helping with the cost of this.

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Speaker 5: However, the total cost for the Marlins will be thirty

605
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Speaker 5: eight percent the Marlins and the Cardinals will be thirty

606
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Speaker 5: eight percent of the one hundred and eight million dollar cost,

607
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Speaker 5: which will of course accumulate interest over the next twenty

608
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Speaker 5: five years, which is when it's paid back. It'll wind

609
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Speaker 5: up being an.

610
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 4: Over almost a two hundred million dollar project, which the

611
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 4: Marlins and Cardinals will be on the hook for forty

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Speaker 4: percent for.

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Speaker 5: So when you say the don't spend money, here's where

614
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 5: they're spending money.

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00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 6: This was.

616
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 5: Sorely needed.

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00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: If you've been to Jupiter and been to the backfields

618
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: and been in those buildings, you'll know why.

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Speaker 5: Kevin just explained some of the reasons. There's more reasons

620
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 5: as well. So this is this is where the Marlins

621
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 5: are spending money.

622
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Speaker 4: On top of you know what they just did with

623
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Speaker 4: Paddock and signing four major league free agents and whatever

624
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: they did this year on top of players, this is

625
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: where they did. This is where they're spending money in

626
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 4: terms of making this organization sustainable, which, as Isaac mentioned,

627
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 4: the wall that they did with the with the Foliage

628
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: speaks to this is where they're doing it. So it

629
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Speaker 4: may not be in the flashiest way of signing the

630
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: big name free agents, but this is the team the

631
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 4: Marlins have to be to be successful long term is

632
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 4: to contribute money to things like this. So before you

633
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: say that, and again think outside the box of them

634
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 4: not spending money on faces, but spending money on physical

635
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 4: things that will help the faces that they have in house.

636
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 4: And this is very important. The Marlins spend money, they

637
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: do it in different ways from other teams. Yes, but

638
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 4: here you go spending money.

639
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 5: You have to money.

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00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: Sorry, go ahead, Kevin, Now.

641
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Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, these are things that they

642
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 6: had to do, Like that facility in Jupiter. The players

643
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 6: described it as outdated. The weight room was very small,

644
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 6: the kitchen was very small. You've got to start somewhere

645
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 6: where you got to entice your players some way, somehow

646
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 6: with the weight room whatever it may be, Like I

647
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 6: know the payrolls what it is. And to their credit,

648
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 6: they actually did go out there and signed quite a

649
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 6: bit of free agents, more than I thought they would,

650
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 6: to be honest, and made a lot more moves than

651
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Speaker 6: I thought they would. Fo Yeah, exactly. I think we

652
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 6: were talking about it like most since twenty sixteen or

653
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Speaker 6: twenty seventeen, which that was a terrible group of free

654
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 6: agents when you look at it. But regardless, Yes, you

655
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 6: have to start somewhere. They needed to do this. This

656
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 6: was this had to be done at some point, and

657
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 6: I'm glad they're doing it. And it starts all the

658
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Speaker 6: way down to Jupiter, So it's not just for the

659
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 6: major leaguers, but also for the minor leaguers. The minor

660
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 6: leaguers are gonna have a really good for themselves, these

661
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 6: Jupiter players because that facility looks awesome.

662
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: One and speaking that they you for money. There was

663
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 3: one more cheesy thing that they did at which I

664
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: think is kind of cool that the way it was

665
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: built previously, the minor leaguers had no overlap with the

666
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: major league because in minor league camp they would not

667
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: connect at all. Now they built this sort of breezeway

668
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: where it's they're going to be very common to overlap.

669
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: They could dine together, play boor games together, whatever the

670
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: case may be. They want them to interact with each

671
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: other and pick each other's brains and whatnot. So that

672
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: was out of the big things that they were focused

673
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: on as well, because even when the NRIs get reassigned

674
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: to minor league camp, they'll still have ways to touch

675
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: base with those major league guys. And I guess that

676
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: that could be beneficial for all parties.

677
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: Well, let me step in quickly, just to be the

678
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: bad guy, as I usually have to be on this stuff,

679
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: I want to explain so everybody sees what they're looking at.

680
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: Updated payroll projection including the John King signing, including today's addition,

681
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: projected payroll still pretty easily the lowest in baseball Corey

682
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: and roster resource. Now digging into those projections, they kind of,

683
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: in my opinion, under count the Gean Carlos Stanton payment

684
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: that the Marlins have to make this year that they

685
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: had to pay stands in ten million bucks as part

686
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: of that trade a gazillion years ago. And if you

687
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: account for that full ten million, that's a little bit

688
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: closer to the Guardians, but still dead last in all

689
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: of baseball when it comes to payroll. This is including

690
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: all the additions they made this offseason, everything, take it

691
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: all into account, and still the spending is so low.

692
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: We just covered the fact that, well they had this

693
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: very big expense when it comes to the renovations. That

694
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: is true. But I do want to represent some people

695
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: that feel the way that Chase does right here that

696
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: getting no props for that adequate facilities is kind of

697
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: the cost of doing business that all these other teams

698
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: around baseball. Maybe they don't have to make these same

699
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: renovations right now, but all of them in various cycles

700
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: renovate their own facilities in order to keep up with

701
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: what's going on, right and that that doesn't get reflected

702
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: in their payroll either. And yet again, when you take

703
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: everything into consideration, this is still when the Marlins are

704
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: in terms of spending. They're a bit ahead of where

705
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: they were last year, when they were also dead last

706
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: in baseball when it comes to the spending. We went

707
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: through some of their recent signings when it comes to

708
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: Paddock and King, and there were a whole lot of

709
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: other starters that signed this offseason, and a whole lot

710
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: of other middle relievers that signed this offseason, and that

711
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: got more money because they have a higher likelihood of

712
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: being effective this year. And the Marlins settled for guys

713
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: like that where you can trust that there are specific

714
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: reasons and rationales behind those acquisitions. But yet they settled

715
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: for those guys because they ended up spending less than

716
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: we think they could have otherwise. And I guess we'll

717
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: get to before the end of the show about the

718
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: TV situation where that is a factor where moving forward

719
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: to the Marlins are more insecure about how much revenue

720
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: is going to be coming in because of the collapse

721
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: of their regional sports network model. Again, that is something

722
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: that affects every practically every team. There are a few

723
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: teams that are actually kind of immune to that trend

724
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: for now, but for most teams that has also caused

725
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: a decrease in projected revenue moving forward from TV, so

726
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: it taken all that end to consider. Again, we're pointing

727
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: out that when the dust has settled, the payroll situation

728
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: looks a lot like last year. It's in that situation

729
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: where if the team itself wasn't primed to be kind

730
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: of competitive, then there would naturally be a much larger

731
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: outcry in terms of this team is getting so much

732
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: from revenue sharing and not putting enough of it back

733
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: into the team when they it seems like you just

734
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: based on the vague numbers that we understand when it

735
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: comes to revenue sharing and everything else, that all the

736
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: other privileges that come with being a Major League Baseball team,

737
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: the fact that they wind up here in the same

738
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: spot that they were a year ago I think is

739
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: I think that's a very fair criticism of how they've operated.

740
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: Let me just let me just quickly like address this

741
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 4: comment or Chase nineteen eighty nine either a coincidence or

742
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 4: we know you've from somewhere by the way the user name. Anyways,

743
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: let me just let me just address this. How do

744
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: you convince draft picks to sign here? How do you

745
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 4: convince free agents to sign here? Do you say, hey,

746
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 4: come look at our Jupiter Academy and that it's outdated,

747
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 4: and you know, there's a blockers that don't have power outlets,

748
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 4: and there's a tiny little kitchen to eat in and

749
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: you eat in folding chairs next to your lockers, and

750
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 4: you know, like you have a press box that has

751
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 4: no air conditioning, and all of these other things you

752
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 4: look at all the doesn't really matter, but yes, that

753
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 4: part doesn't matter, but the air conditioning fill in other places.

754
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: Kevin, Let's just be honest that we've been in that

755
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 5: facility a lot.

756
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 6: Yes, you're right, you're right.

757
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you convince draft picks to sign here, and you

758
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 4: convinced free agents to sign here by not having adequate facilities,

759
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: So things one thing plays into another. Right, you have

760
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 4: to have things like this if you want to convince

761
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 4: top talent to be here.

762
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 5: Right, So if you don't have it, you don't have one.

763
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 4: Thing that almost every other Major League Baseball team has,

764
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: and you're trying to do business the wrong way, so

765
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: you have to.

766
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 5: Spend money on things like that. As Kevin said before,

767
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 5: they had.

768
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: To do it so and it was long overdue, so

769
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 4: they should get credit for finally doing it. Yes, there

770
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: was an overview, but we should be giving them credit

771
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 4: for finally doing it.

772
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: And just a little bit of background.

773
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 7: This has been in the work since twenty sixteen ish,

774
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 7: these renovations, and the only reason that it hadn't happened

775
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 7: soon was because Palm Beach County had to focus on

776
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 7: the whatever it's called, the Cacti Park for the Nationals

777
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 7: and Astros facility, and that costs a lot of money,

778
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 7: so that the Marvels project, from what I said I

779
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 7: asked today, it took a really back seat to that.

780
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: Those renovuver to that ballpark being built just protect the

781
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: Florida side of spring training, and then they were able

782
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: to get over to Roger DTVA Stadium and do that renovation.

783
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: So this has been in the works fo over ten years,

784
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 3: it's you're finally seeing it come to fruition. I agree

785
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 3: with Carver. I'm not sure. You know, it's we got

786
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: to be able to attract kill the Watson and whatnot.

787
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 3: But in all seriousness, it is important to be able

788
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 3: to have a state of the art facility. Really is incredible.

789
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: I'm not doing a justice, neither is Kevin. It really

790
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: is a hell of a hell of a job they did,

791
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: and I can't wait for everyone to go out and

792
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: see it. And this is just phase one, as we said,

793
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it was important. Yes, could they

794
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: have signed Marque free agents and done this, probably, but

795
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: you got to give credit where credit is due, and

796
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: this is a hell of a facility. And any major

797
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: Leaue free agent, whether it's Kyle Tucker or John King,

798
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: they're all gonna be impressed. And just to.

799
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 6: Clarify, like the monitors are doing these renovations, I actually

800
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 6: have multiple of these facilities. I believe Jacksonville did theirs.

801
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 6: They have a new locker room. I know most of

802
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 6: theirs were more like outside like for the fans and stuff,

803
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 6: but you know, they've done their thing, and I've only

804
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 6: heard good things about Pensacola and Beloit in terms of

805
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 6: their facilities and how they treat players and all that stuff.

806
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 6: So it has to start there because clearly, as we know,

807
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 6: and yes, the models could have spent more, Yes the

808
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 6: Manins could have brought in better players, but we know

809
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 6: at this point the way Peter Bennix operates, that just

810
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 6: will not be the case. They will not be signing

811
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 6: the top free agents on the market. Ever, they will

812
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 6: be signing the John Kings compete, bearbanks Is and and

813
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 6: the Christopher Morells of the world. And you've got to

814
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 6: develop and it starts with that type of stuff. So

815
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 6: and really quick an update on the Roger Dean Statum,

816
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 6: which is where fans will be. The third base deck

817
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 6: is kind of almost done. It didn't look very complete

818
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 6: to me. It looks much more completed than it was

819
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 6: when I went by during the winter meetings. It actually

820
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 6: has like a flooring and and all that stuff, but

821
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 6: it is not painted. It is it was still being

822
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 6: worked on. There's a lot of paint. It smells a

823
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 6: lot like paint there. Yes, I'm not a construction worker,

824
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 6: I'm not an architect, but I can say that it

825
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 6: is for my knowledge of this, it looks better than

826
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 6: it did two months ago.

827
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: That was funny.

828
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: However, so we're I think we're eleven days away from

829
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: the Marlins spring I don't.

830
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 5: Think that's gonna be ready.

831
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: Ten probably ten days from the Cardinals opening in the

832
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: same facility their first spring game over there. Uh yeah,

833
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: Just final word on this from Jeremiah, because a couple

834
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: of commentaris that are eager to hear from you anyway,

835
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: just about the fact that they do wind up in

836
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: this scenario where I know you covered this extensively when

837
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: you were on Lockdown in terms of what this offseason

838
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: could look like. If I vaguely remember what wasn't Josh

839
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: Naylor a guy that you circled like early in the

840
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: offseason thinking that that would kind of be in play,

841
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: and wind up in this offseason where again, to reiterate,

842
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: payroll does go up from where it was last year.

843
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: But something that I was reminded of just now from

844
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: the last few minutes is, I mean, all these are

845
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 1: one year deals too, that it's not just about sort

846
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: of a limited payroll going into twenty twenty six. But

847
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: Marlins kind of disqualified themselves from a certain tier of

848
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: free agent because they weren't even going willing to go

849
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: a second guaranteed year for any of these guys.

850
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh Naylor was on my list. It was kind

851
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: of like a dream, very optimistic from the start. Realistically,

852
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: once I saw the Mariners got him for ninety I

853
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 2: think it was five years ninety million, I was like, Okay,

854
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: the Marlins would have never done that. I didn't think

855
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: he was gonna sign for that high. So the way

856
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: I kind of looked at it was, if you're the Marlins,

857
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: you're coming off of a seventy seven win season. The

858
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: farm system, I think we all can agree, is probably

859
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: comfortably in the top ten now according to most outlets.

860
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: You know, you have a young core together. Now let's

861
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: supplement the roster, right, Let's add some free agents. And

862
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: obviously we learned that Peter Bendix, the philosophy of the

863
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: organization is not like Kevin said earlier, it's not going

864
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: to go sign these these guys. And that means you're

865
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: probably not going to see another fifty sixty seventy million

866
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: and upwards of that for multi years. You know, one

867
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: in two year deals. So is there risk involved with that?

868
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: Probably not, because you're not investing a lot of money.

869
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: Like Christopher Morell to me was Okay, it's low risk

870
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: Kyrie Ward, because if he goes back to his twenty

871
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: twenty three version, you're gonna get a power hitter who

872
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 2: can hit twenty five thirty home runs. Maybe if he doesn't,

873
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: then you probably part ways with him and he's he's awful.

874
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: It's disappointing as a fan because you want to see

875
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: your team make these tangible improvements. But like the guys

876
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: were saying, they're investing in the infrastructure, they're investing in

877
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: the culture of this team. I think the organization has

878
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: taken a clear like culture mindset. Everybody's on board. One

879
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: of the things that I've always noticed is across the organization,

880
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: you know, just talking to players, like talking to PJ

881
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: in the Arizona Fallay League or Carson mill Brandt. These

882
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: guys want to win. They care about winning, they care

883
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: about what the organization does. And it's not just at

884
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: the Marlins, you know, Loane Deepot Park. This is in Beloit, Wisconsin,

885
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 2: this is in Pensacola, and these guys are buying in.

886
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: So I'm excited for this window of opportunity to continue

887
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 2: opening up and hopefully we have a fun season.

888
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 3: And I agree, Jar, And one thing I will add

889
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: to that is that I obviously they haven't done many

890
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: multi year deals or any actually under the Peter Bennings regime.

891
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 3: I think you could see that change after this year.

892
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: I do think that with this CBA expirence and be

893
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: completely restructured, I think you're going to see them be

894
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: able to spend even more money. This is now for

895
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: free agents that they've signed this offseason. Over twenty two

896
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: and a half million dollars is my rough estimate off

897
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: the top of my head. Last time they did this

898
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: was a twenty sixteen twenty seventeen offseason they sent four

899
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 3: major league free agents. I think you could see them

900
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: spend even more after this year, especially if things go well.

901
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: And they did this in an offseason with obviously the

902
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: uncertainty with the CBA and the TV deal. They had

903
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: no idea what this was gonna happen. They had no

904
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: idea how much revenue they're gonna lose, and it is

905
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: gonna them pretty hard this lack of a TV deal.

906
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: So still they did spend all this money, and I

907
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: do think that there is a good chance that they

908
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: go multi years and it's not You're not They're not

909
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 3: gonna sign the Kyle Tuckers, but you could maybe sign

910
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: I don't want to say this name, but like the

911
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: Avy Garcia level free agents, the mid the mid tier

912
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 3: free agents of next year's class. I do genuinely believe

913
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 3: from what I've been told that is a real possibility.

914
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 6: Happy retirement to Avy really quick, because I know we're

915
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 6: going to talk about the TV thing, and I think

916
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 6: fans would care to hear about this one player, Dylan Lewis,

917
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 6: who did go into Marlin's camp today, and I think

918
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 6: Isaac could kind of back me up here. That dude

919
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 6: just like a pretty big dude, Like like I was

920
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 6: pretty like I was pretty shocked to see, like how

921
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 6: big the guy is. Like he's we got got to

922
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 6: see him hitting a little bit today. He's he's gonna

923
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 6: be really good. Like just I'll definitely talk to him

924
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 6: the next couple of days. But yeah, he was there,

925
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 6: Brendan Jones was there. There are a lot of position

926
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 6: players that weren't supposed to be there that they were there,

927
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 6: so it just shows a little bit of the buying.

928
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 5: But yes, I think people.

929
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 6: Care Dylan Lewis. He's the Beast, and so is Thomas White.

930
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 6: So those guys are going to be really really exciting

931
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 6: to follow if it's going to be at the major

932
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 6: league level at some point with White or in Triple A,

933
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 6: and then with Lewis and Double AM, assuming is where

934
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 6: he will begin a season. So yes, yeah, those guys

935
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 6: were huge and I'm excited to see them, hopefully at

936
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 6: some point participate in some games. I think we'll be

937
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 6: seeing a lot more of them in the spring breakout game.

938
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 6: More than anything, I can attest to that. Lewis looks

939
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 6: like an NFL safety. He is just straight jacked. He's

940
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 6: a walking muscle, that guy.

941
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: So it'll be exciting all the tools to be the

942
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: number one prospecting the system within twelve months from now

943
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: TV time, TV time.

944
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 1: Marlin's that TV time starting yesterday is when the annual

945
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: plans went on sale for that put up a guide

946
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: on our site kind of breaking this down. Marlin's had

947
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: some frequently asked questions posted on their side as well

948
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: to try to get people up to speed on this.

949
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: But anyway you slice, it's a pretty dramatic change for

950
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: in market viewers, and I think it's important for us

951
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: to have a panel like this, because both for Jeremiah

952
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 1: and myself, this actually doesn't impact us much whatsoever being

953
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: out of market. I think that's the simplest place to

954
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: start that for I know, we have people that actually

955
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: watched this show on a regular basis who are also

956
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: outside the state of Florida, and for them, this really

957
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: doesn't change much of anything. If you are an MLB

958
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: TV subscriber and that's how you get Marlins games ready,

959
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: then things remain almost identically the same as long as

960
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: you had automatic renewals on even the price stays the

961
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: same for you to continue to get those games out

962
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: of market. And then the Marlins case, as one of

963
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: the bright spots of their mediocrity and lack of national profile,

964
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: is that almost every single game is broadcast locally by

965
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: their crew. The most recent estimate is one hundred and

966
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: fifty seven out of one to sixty two games. They're

967
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: going to be handled by this Marlins TV staff, a

968
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: staff that will look almost identical to what we were

969
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: used to last year, the final year on FanDuel with

970
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: Kyle self on play by play, with Tommy Hutton and

971
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: Rod Allen among others in the analyst role, with Kelly

972
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: Saco hosting and reporting. Most of the time, it's a

973
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: lot of continuity when it comes to the talent. The

974
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: question is the production itself might look a little bit different,

975
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to the studio coverage. I think,

976
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: based on what we've seen from other teams that have

977
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: already made the transition, that their pregame is significantly shorter

978
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: than it used to be, and that even their post

979
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: game might be about the same, if not a little

980
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: bit shorter as well. So there's that aspect of it.

981
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: And then the questions that come up, of course, are

982
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: for the people in market when it comes to how

983
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: exactly they can sign up for this, what's going to

984
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: cost them, what it means for their existing services, and

985
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: some of that stuff is still up in the air,

986
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: trying to understand exactly which cable and satellite systems are

987
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: going to continue to carry the Marlins on TV for

988
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: an additional fee. I think anyway you slice it, this

989
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: isn't going to save you money unless you're ready to

990
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: completely cut the cord. Unless you were a full time

991
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: cable subscriber this entire time, and this is the final

992
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: straw and you're ready to move on from that. The

993
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: way that you save money is if you totally ditch

994
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: cable and are willing to kind of piece things together

995
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: a la carte through streamers, including through MARLINSTV. But that

996
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: is yeah, a lot of this stuff. There are some

997
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: questions going on right now, but it is for sale now,

998
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: and for a full season it's one hundred bucks, it's

999
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,479
Speaker 1: ninety nine to ninety nine, and the breakdown per month

1000
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: is going to be nineteen ninety nine a month that

1001
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: people can sign up for once the season actually gets going.

1002
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: And I think I saw some questions about why they

1003
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: can't buy at a monthly rate right now, and that's

1004
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: because for the first the next month and a half

1005
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: there's barely gonna be anything on marlinst TV. All you're

1006
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: gonna get is a handful of spring training games, and

1007
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: even those we haven't gotten in clarification yet in terms

1008
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: of which spring games to Marrolins are going to broadcast.

1009
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: So you wouldn't actually want to be signing up right

1010
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: now on a monthly basis because he'd be getting very

1011
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: little bang for your buck. That's when they start setting

1012
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: up the monthly thing is when the season gets going,

1013
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: and if you're a real super fan, and that includes

1014
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: one and get every MORSELSS spring training that you can.

1015
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: Then you probably want to take the plunge and sign

1016
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: up for an annual plan right now, I know that

1017
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: the Marlins are the thing that we're trying to get

1018
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: clarity on is how people can redeem a discount if

1019
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: they're a Marlins member or a full season ticket holder.

1020
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: Apparently those people can get a fifty percent discount on

1021
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: that annual plan where it's fifty bucks instead of one hundred.

1022
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: So I'm that is what the team says, and I

1023
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: believe they're true, but I'll have the double check in

1024
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: terms of how people can make sure that they can

1025
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: eligible people can redeem that amount of money. I think

1026
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: with that being said, I should stop talking because I'm

1027
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: the out of market guy. So, like just from Kevin,

1028
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: from your perspective, as an in market fan, as somebody

1029
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: that's been watching this team, following this team, and previously

1030
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: I had to do it with the others set up

1031
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: in what's it gonna mean for somebody like you from

1032
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: where you currently stand.

1033
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have a way that I will not disclose

1034
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 6: how I watch the Marlins, but when I the legal way,

1035
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 6: I watched through Fubo, which thankfully Isaac has it and

1036
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 6: he has allowed me to use it, and that's how

1037
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 6: I watch. I say it right where you see me,

1038
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 6: right now, and I put on the Marlins game, and

1039
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 6: uh yeah, but I do think I will be buying

1040
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 6: the twenty dollars a month package.

1041
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: I think it's great.

1042
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 6: I think I'm all be dot tv is a great tool.

1043
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 5: I like it personally.

1044
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 6: I usually use it to watch games. That's how I

1045
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 6: watch some of the you know, random out of market

1046
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 6: games for the Marlins. But uh, for anyone curious about

1047
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 6: the actual talent for what it's worth, Kelly Kyle, Tommy Hutton,

1048
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 6: Rod Allen, we're all there today in Jupiter. Jeremy Tash

1049
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 6: was at the Marlins media day. They all have Marlins

1050
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,959
Speaker 6: dot tv credentials. That's about as much as I would

1051
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 6: probably share there in that sense. But they seem like

1052
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 6: they're oh and Craig Marvini too. They're all gonna be back,

1053
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 6: that's my assumption. I don't know what it means for

1054
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 6: pre and post. I know that's been the big discussion,

1055
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 6: especially for the road, because I think the understanding is

1056
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 6: that there won't be any road pre or post or

1057
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 6: maybe it'll be like a little five minute segment before

1058
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 6: and after the game, who knows. But for me personally,

1059
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 6: I will probably be purchasing the twenty dollars per month package.

1060
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 6: That's the only way it will actually change. But I'd

1061
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 6: prefer to use mobtv. It's as close as to real

1062
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 6: time as it could be. Maybe it's a pitch or

1063
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 6: two off, but I prefer like that. And I get

1064
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 6: MLB dot tv for free because of the T Mobile package,

1065
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 6: so I will only be paying the twenty dollars extra

1066
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 6: in this case. So I know a lot of people

1067
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 6: it's definitely frustrating because you thought you would if you

1068
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 6: had the MLB dot TV package with T Mobile, you

1069
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 6: would only be you would be getting Martins baseball for free.

1070
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 6: But that is not the case. You have to pay

1071
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 6: to get the blackout removed. But if you are a

1072
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 6: person who has a VPN, you could always use a

1073
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 6: VPN and just say or somewhere else and you can

1074
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 6: give Marlins baseball for free. Still, So if you're an

1075
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 6: in market person you have a VPN, that's that's something

1076
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 6: you can do. So I'm not gonna stop you from that.

1077
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 6: But uh yeah, I think the easiest.

1078
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: Thing to do is just pay twenty dollars a month

1079
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: and call it a day.

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00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 6: I know, Carver, Carver, you should give us your thoughts.

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00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 3: I think you uh, you're.

1082
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 6: Also you're in the same bugget as me, essentially, Yeah,

1083
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 6: please do.

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00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I I.

1085
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 4: Don't want to stop you from advocating people to go

1086
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 4: watch the Marlins the way that the team doesn't make money.

1087
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 5: But you can, you can keep I want you to

1088
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 5: keep doing that, Kevin, I'm just kidding. I I think

1089
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 5: I don't care how I watch it man. To be honest,

1090
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 5: I care about the team making money off of TV.

1091
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 5: That's what I care about right me too, I also

1092
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 5: about my games and the way that they're going to

1093
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 5: make money.

1094
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 4: Right now, from what we know is if people buy this,

1095
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 4: I think a lot of this what what how much

1096
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 4: money the Marlins are going to make off the TV

1097
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 4: is going to come down to the uncertainty of what

1098
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 4: Eli just mentioned. Is this to be available on any

1099
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 4: local cap channel, because I don't think a lot of

1100
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 4: casual fans are going to go out of their way

1101
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 4: to buy these packages to specifically watch Marlins baseball. I

1102
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 4: don't think a casual fan is just going to be

1103
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 4: like the casual fan that's making dinner and says, oh,

1104
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 4: there's a baseball game on.

1105
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 5: There are a lot of those fans in South Florida.

1106
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 4: There are a lot of displaced Marlins fans in South

1107
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 4: Florida that are not happy with the team. They're not

1108
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 4: going to go out of their way to spend one

1109
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 4: hundred dollars to watch the Marlins. So I think if

1110
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 4: we go to the standpoint of how much money are

1111
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: the Marlins going to lose by not having a TV

1112
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 4: deal with a partner like this last one that they had,

1113
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 4: or with Valley Sports, or with whoever at FSN or

1114
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 4: whoever it is, a lot of it is going to

1115
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 4: come down to where else is this available outside of

1116
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 4: these options that are on the screen, And I think

1117
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 4: that that is going to play big dividends into.

1118
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 5: The loss of revenue for the Marlins.

1119
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 4: I think if it is available, how the Panthers have

1120
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 4: games available on a local channel here as well as

1121
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 4: on an app ye, that is the most viable solution.

1122
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: I really really hope that the Marlins are going to

1123
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 4: get something like that done with a local channel here

1124
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 4: in the area, because you're going to lose a lot

1125
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 4: of viewership. If this is the only thing available, even

1126
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 4: if it was ten dollars.

1127
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 5: A month, I don't think it would matter.

1128
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 4: I think the Marlins would lose a lot of viewership

1129
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 4: by not having this available to consume on local television.

1130
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 4: So I hope that those we have the answers to

1131
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 4: those questions that the season draws closer. Is this going

1132
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 4: to be available somewhere else that is not this? But

1133
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 4: we'll see because right now the only thing we know

1134
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 4: is this is the only way to watch Marlins games

1135
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 4: if you live in the Tri Counties. So that I

1136
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 4: don't I don't think is going to get it done

1137
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 4: for the Marlins revenue sharing wise, It really won't.

1138
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 5: So this is.

1139
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 4: A big, big factor in terms of income for this team.

1140
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 4: So I think from what I can say is I

1141
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 4: hope that this is available elsewhere versus these options.

1142
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: Oh, you're absolutely right that compared to they were in

1143
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 1: an awful situation when it comes to this anyway, between

1144
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: a rock and a hard place, because even though they

1145
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: were guaranteed a certain amount of money from the fan

1146
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: duel the parent company, main Street Sports Group, that company

1147
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: was going broke and wasn't going to be able to

1148
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: pay that what they were owed. In fact, I believe

1149
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 1: that they were going to miss a payment to start

1150
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: off twenty twenty six, and that's when the Marlins, along

1151
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: with a handful of other Major league teams this winner,

1152
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 1: officially cut the cord from them because it became obvious

1153
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: that even though they were they were supposed to get

1154
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars every single year as part

1155
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: of that TV right steal, it was not going to

1156
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: come through due to the overall collapse of the regional

1157
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: sports network model. They did want to bring this up.

1158
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: Something that I think is worth mentioning for some folks

1159
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: is that this does include MiLB TV that they're bundling

1160
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: that along with the subscription for both that are interested

1161
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,479
Speaker 1: in that, you do get access to all the full

1162
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: season affiliate games at Triple A Jacksonville, DOAA, Pensacola, HYAE, Beloit,

1163
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: Low A, Jupiter, and for some fans like that is

1164
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: a huge value that they just throw in on its

1165
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: own on a standalone basis, I feel like that is

1166
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: either thirty bucks or forty bucks for a whole season

1167
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: on its own. But even that that's a pretty decent deal,

1168
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,959
Speaker 1: and especially if they're gonna throw it in for free.

1169
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: On top of that, because it is all under the

1170
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: MLB umbrella, that could be an incentive that maybe make

1171
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: people feel like that's a good idea overall, and just

1172
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,959
Speaker 1: generally speaking, this is it could be worse. It really

1173
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: is not that considering that you get almost every game.

1174
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: The few exceptions are the ones that are on Peacock.

1175
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: Every single team is going to have some games that

1176
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: are exclusive on Peacock, and then there are a couple

1177
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: other national broadcast partners. But the Marlins aren't really that

1178
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: affected because they're not going to have too many primetime

1179
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: games on NBC. For the first time this year, NBC

1180
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: is taking over Sunday Night Baseball. The Marlins currently are

1181
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: not expected to have any Sunday night games, but that

1182
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: I guess I could change. There is some variability in

1183
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: that schedule. And to be clear, I think this is

1184
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: very important for able to understand that the TV coverage.

1185
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't think this is always the case, but as

1186
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: part of this transition, the Marlins are now claiming the

1187
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: entire state of Florida as part of in market viewing.

1188
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: And not only that, but as you see a bit

1189
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: of southwest Alabama, have that right, so that is part

1190
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: of the Marlins TV footprint, even though of course it

1191
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: covers all the Ray's TV footprint and it intrudes on

1192
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: into what you would think wouldn't be the Braves. There's

1193
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 1: some overlap pretty obviously when it comes to this coverage

1194
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: map rule, these rules and this breakdown impacts people in

1195
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: this particular way where for anybody that is in that

1196
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: blue zone anywhere in Florida and a little bit in Alabama,

1197
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: they are considered in market viewers and they'd be the

1198
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: ones that are eligible for this Marlins do TV scenario.

1199
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: And worth pulling up again that if you want the Marlins,

1200
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: and you want every single other team as well, if

1201
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: you are in market, they kind of make you double

1202
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: dip in a way where you got to it's up

1203
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: to two one hundred dollars for a whole season forty

1204
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,479
Speaker 1: bucks a month to get both in market Marlins games

1205
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: and out of market for every single other team. Again,

1206
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: they do throw in some perks where they throw in MILBTV.

1207
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: They throw in when it comes to that full package,

1208
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: they throw in twenty four hour hour access to MLB

1209
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: network in case you don't get that as part of

1210
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: a normal subscription that you have elsewhere. They include the

1211
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: live audio so that you can listen to Jack McMullen,

1212
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: Steven Strom and a host of analysts as well, but

1213
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: all those for every other team to get the unlimited

1214
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: audio when it comes with that. All this is being

1215
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: very standardized now that literally half the teams in Major

1216
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: League Baseball have this exact same setup. Beginning this year,

1217
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: fifteen teams are going to have this exact same setup

1218
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: and price point when it comes to how you access

1219
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: the in market games and the out of market stuff.

1220
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: And eventually, I think the forecast is for within the

1221
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: next few years that all thirty teams are going to

1222
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: be put under this exact same structure in order to

1223
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: give just a whole lot of continuity and find ways

1224
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: on the MLB side, to going back to what Carver said,

1225
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: to kind of find some way to replace most of

1226
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: the revenue. You're never going to replace all the revenue

1227
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: of the old system, but they're just trying to find

1228
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: ways to create most of it too, so that the

1229
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: teams themselves don't find themselves in a really rough financial position.

1230
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: And when it comes to putting together a competitive team,

1231
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: I guess.

1232
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 4: I guess the people out of like in the rest

1233
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 4: of the state of Florida that weren't in direct viewing areas.

1234
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 4: I mean, they were paying anyways to watch it Marland.

1235
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: So I don't know if, if you know, making it

1236
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 4: the whole status is that much of an impact because

1237
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 4: they were those people were already paying anyways, because Marlin's

1238
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 4: games aren't you know, in market it or weren't in market,

1239
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 4: and the only way for those people to consume was

1240
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 4: to buy into something like this anyway. So I think

1241
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 4: that those fans will probably stay around, if I'm hoping correctly,

1242
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean maybe not, and maybe maybe that's

1243
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: even more people that they'll lose, but but yeah, it's

1244
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 4: definitely a huge factor for for for the income of

1245
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 4: the team, as I mentioned, So again just hoping that

1246
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 4: they work something out with a somewhat some kind of

1247
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 4: local channel like the Panthers have, that would be the

1248
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 4: most advantageous because those casual fans, I can't see them

1249
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 4: buying into this to this kind of thing. The diehards

1250
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 4: we will be there, you know, we'll all be there,

1251
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 4: but I can't see the casuals, you know, that that

1252
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 4: would watch a game just for the for the heck

1253
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 4: of it.

1254
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 5: I can't see them buying into something like this.

1255
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do have, I haven't listened to the whole

1256
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: part of what you guys are talking about. With the

1257
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 3: old fashioned part of just seeing it on the guide

1258
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 3: and on cable. It's just a total difference maker for

1259
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 3: for a lot of the older generations, like my father included,

1260
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 3: he's flipped the channel that you can't see them Mars.

1261
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 3: You see Sandy's pitching as the Phillies you tune in.

1262
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 3: But to be paying extra additionally to the MLB TV

1263
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 3: rate of over one hundred and sixty dollars a year,

1264
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 3: it's just it's not gonna be worth the squeeze to

1265
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 3: a lot of people with this tech.

1266
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: I think another key component is trying to find make

1267
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: it as ubiquitous as possible for people to actually watch

1268
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: it on their TV instead of shifting to a smaller screen,

1269
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: because I speak from like my own parents experience where

1270
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: the games don't feel the same if you're havn't if

1271
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: you're having if you're watching it on your computer or

1272
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 1: on your phone, and you don't necessarily either you don't

1273
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: have the kind of smart TV that's compatible with it,

1274
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: or you do, but you don't know exactly how to

1275
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: use it. I think that's part of it as well,

1276
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: where it kind of feels, for whatever reason, it feels

1277
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: smaller now because it's in a streaming product rather than

1278
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: conventional TV. I think that is something The Baseball is

1279
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 1: still in a situation where the fan base is relatively old.

1280
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: The average fan in baseball is much older than on average,

1281
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: the average baseball fan is a lot older than any

1282
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: of us are, and that they're kind of at a

1283
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: stay each where in their life where this is a

1284
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: little bit more intimidating, this kind of transition to something

1285
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: that's only streaming for people that are less likely to

1286
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: be fluent in streaming services to begin with. So I

1287
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: think that is something that will impact every fan base

1288
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: when it comes to trying to educate people and make

1289
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: this go very smoothly, and the fact that this is

1290
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: the first year of it, I feel like this is

1291
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: gonna be the roughest year business wise for the team

1292
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: to try to get people as to convert as many

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Speaker 1: people as possible that we're previously watching games on a

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Speaker 1: regular basis and now doing something completely different. But then eventually,

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Speaker 1: especially if the team wins I mean, all this really

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Speaker 1: does come back to the team being relevant and being

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Speaker 1: a high demand product. That is something we always come

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Speaker 1: back to that when we talk about attendance and drawing

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Speaker 1: people to the ballpark, that if the team wins, people

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Speaker 1: will find a way to get through Little Havana at

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Speaker 1: that time of day where it's really inconvenient, Like all

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Speaker 1: the other concerns get solved by winning. And I think

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Speaker 1: it applies a little bit on the TV side as well,

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Speaker 1: that these prices, assuming they remain stable for the foreseeble future,

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Speaker 1: like these prices look a lot different if you're watching

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Speaker 1: a team that you expect to win the majority of

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Speaker 1: the nights instead of one that historically almost every season

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Speaker 1: is losing the majority of the games that they play.

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Speaker 1: I think that's an aspect of it as well. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: we could wrap things up here. We've We've gone a

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Speaker 1: little bit over an hour on here, and I knew

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Speaker 1: way we would at the very minimum get to that point.

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Speaker 1: And I know throughout this entire chat there are things

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Speaker 1: we skipped over, Like we're it feels like FanFest was

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Speaker 1: a gazillion years ago.

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Speaker 3: That was four days ago.

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Speaker 1: We didn't even talk about that. But I think people

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Speaker 1: following our coverage probably got a pretty good idea in

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Speaker 1: terms of everything that went on there and our thoughts

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Speaker 1: and analysis on how that went, as well as all

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Speaker 1: these other storylines across baseball that you guys may be

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Speaker 1: familiar with, all the injuries that are popping up. The

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Speaker 1: WBC will cover that a lot as it gets closer

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Speaker 1: as well, and the implications it has on the Marlins.

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks thanks to Madd and everybody else for tuning

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Speaker 1: in and for filling up the Chad good interaction when

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Speaker 1: it comes to that. We will have a live streams

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Speaker 1: every single week for at least the next eight months

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Speaker 1: or so, and usually it'll be multiple streams a week

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Speaker 1: once the season itself arrives, but at least one a

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Speaker 1: week throughout a spring training. It's looking like the next

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Speaker 1: time that we'll be on here for you guys is

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Speaker 1: likely on Monday, when the full squad reports for the

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Speaker 1: very first time, but a whole lot of coverage between

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Speaker 1: now and then. From I know, both Kevin and Isaac

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Speaker 1: will be on site tomorrow, and then we'll have some

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Speaker 1: perhaps a Carver Jupidter debut on Friday, and of course

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Speaker 1: we'll have a lot of people on the grounds on

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Speaker 1: Monday as well to Philly win between now and then.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll close it out right here with Alex Carver,

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Speaker 1: Isaaca Zoo, Kevin Barrall, Jeremiah Geiger, and myself, Eli Sussman

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Speaker 1: Fish on First Live. My new setup where you can

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Speaker 1: actually see my T shirt pretty clearly. Now that's more

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Speaker 1: zoomed out than it used to be at my old place.

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Speaker 1: More announcements coming on the podcast front as soon as

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Speaker 1: next week that we're really really excited about, so we'll

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Speaker 1: fill you in, but just good stuff in terms of

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Speaker 1: the quality of the content will be a little provided

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Speaker 1: in the volume of it that will be able to

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Speaker 1: provide to you during this highly anticipated twenty twenty sixth

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Speaker 1: season As always presented by jet Ski Rentals of South Florida.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to them for presenting this podcast and their support

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Speaker 1: throughout the offseason and heading into the new year. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you guys next week here on fof Live.

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Speaker 1: As always, Go Fish