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Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to another special edition of Club Shasha on

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Speaker 1: the Road. I am your hole Shannon Sharp. I'm also

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Speaker 1: the proprid of Club Shasha. And the guy that's stopping

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Speaker 1: by for conversation on the drink, Well, we have nothing

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Speaker 1: to drink, so just the conversation today is one of

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Speaker 1: the scariest heavyweights on the planet. He holds the record

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Speaker 1: for the hardest punch ever recorded by the Guiness Book

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Speaker 1: of World Records. He's a Farmer UFC Heavyweight Champion of

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Speaker 1: the World, a top ten rank WBC Boxing heavyweight contender,

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Speaker 1: one of the baddest men on the planet. I just

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Speaker 1: nicknamed him the Cameroonian conquistador. You know, the conquista door

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Speaker 1: You no, that's somewhere looking to conquer new territory. The predator.

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Speaker 1: Francis and Ganu. How you doing, bro? I did good,

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Speaker 1: show Man. Thanks for stopping by.

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Speaker 3: Man. How you being I've been good, you know, been

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Speaker 3: paving my little way.

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Speaker 1: How have your life changed? See, we're gonna give you

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Speaker 1: credit for the win because everybody believed that you won't

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Speaker 1: to fight. You got out landed in total punches, but

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Speaker 1: you threw the harder power shots. You knocked him down,

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Speaker 1: something that some of the other former heavyweights in boxing

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Speaker 1: has been unable to do. So what's going through your mind?

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Speaker 1: You land this punch? Did you think he was going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, letting Going up into that fight, I was very prepared.

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Speaker 3: I know how tough he is. You know, I have

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Speaker 3: going there to knock him out, you know how, I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: whatever happened, because usually when you think somebody is going

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Speaker 3: I'm like, this fight is going to the decision, you know.

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Speaker 3: And during the entire fight, I was just thinking to uh,

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Speaker 3: like don't overdo, don't find the big the big punch,

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Speaker 1: Did you think you could win a decision over a

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Speaker 3: I believe in it. I mean that's why I trained.

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Speaker 3: I trained for ten rounds. I mean to get there

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm going into a sport that I'm there

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Speaker 3: So I wasn't looking for punchase at all. Like I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and see that's what I'm saying, because you are

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Speaker 3: And that's that's why I like, at some point even

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Speaker 3: I get frustrated of the decision, but I understand that

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Speaker 3: take the system down like that. I've been into this

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Speaker 3: But you know, I wanted to prove my point. I

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Speaker 3: I feel in the fifth round, in the sixth round,

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Speaker 3: important for me. So at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: like after that fight, regardless of the decision, I was

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Speaker 1: What gave you the confidence, considering that you had never

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Speaker 1: I don't think you stepped into the ring thinking like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: You know, life is not always about Terry. If life

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Speaker 3: You know, I wasn't meant to be here, and yet

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Speaker 3: professional fighter. No, I step back because if that got

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Speaker 3: to learn, you might find yourself have taken a nap.

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Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, regardless of like

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Speaker 1: You had Mike Tyson, who Typson Pory is named after,

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Speaker 1: the so when you go into the he's a big man,

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Speaker 1: he's a massive man. I think he's six foot nine.

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Speaker 1: You're six foot five. You were the more muscular fighter,

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Speaker 1: and you said, I just wanted to make sure I

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Speaker 3: Did you?

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Speaker 1: Could you tell like, I think I can get him.

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Speaker 1: This is this is the moment.

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Speaker 3: No, basically that was even encounter. That wasn't something that

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Speaker 3: I prepare, but I saw that when he walk at uh,

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Speaker 3: kind of like Okay, we are done. Let's go home now.

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Speaker 3: Because when the fight started, he was like, let's go

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Speaker 3: he's acting like he's just gonna walk me, uh, walk

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Speaker 3: know really nothing. I really because he wasn't a strong per,

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Speaker 3: so I know that he's gonna get off. You didn't

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Speaker 3: catch you with your bears, No, no, I mean he

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Speaker 1: But you catch him flush, you believe the bikes over

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Speaker 1: if you don't glaze it, if you don't glance his shoulder,

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Speaker 3: Everyone everybody will go down basically in the tench round

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Speaker 1: So so what was what was it like taking a

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Speaker 1: there's so many things that you got to watch for.

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Speaker 1: In boxing, you're just looking for the hands. Now you up,

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Speaker 1: the upper cut, the hook, body shots. But in UFC

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Speaker 3: You he has pretty good I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 3: those punches from everywhere, knee kick all those stuff, but

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Speaker 3: Those guys have it in. Yeah, they have their speed,

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Speaker 3: they know how to detroy it. Everything hit pretty good.

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Speaker 3: I mean I hit some good shot.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, you know, but how you ever gotten

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Speaker 1: hit that hard in a UFC fight? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: The only thing is that it was quite obvious, you know,

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Speaker 1: Of like, Okay, he hits you with ill legal elbow

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Speaker 1: When you look at it, he's because he's such a

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Speaker 3: And I know, and I knew that. I knew that

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Speaker 1: Well, you acquitted yourself very well. So when you get

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Speaker 3: We were happy. We did a great job. Everything went

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Speaker 1: You know, my mom, my, brothers, everywhere. You're nervous, because

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean you're always nervous when you're getting in

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Speaker 1: Right, So you had a great So if you were

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Speaker 1: to and it seems like you're looking to pursue this

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Speaker 3: No. First of all, Mike is not a full time trainer.

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Speaker 1: baseball combination. I can't do a little bit of both, right. See,

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Speaker 1: let's see the great fight. You know, I think at

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Speaker 3: Like four months for this fight? Like this was my

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Speaker 1: So you're talking about ten three minute rounds versus five

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Speaker 3: What's what's the different? Did you notice the difference there?

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Speaker 3: you're done. You better get a good training come in

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Speaker 1: So I like you, so are you looking forward? So

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Speaker 3: I don't need it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't need a promoter, So give me a

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Speaker 1: That that's your problem. Yeah, I can go.

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Speaker 3: Promote with whoever have a fighter I want to put

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Speaker 1: Okay, So who would you be looking in the heavyweight

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Speaker 3: Right now? I want that rematch with Tyson. You know,

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Speaker 3: I just fight a lot of confidence on me in me,

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Speaker 1: But I think now that you know what to expect,

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Speaker 3: Of course, I mean, I'm definitely gonna be prepared more,

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Speaker 3: What's the biggest difference between MMA and boxing in your

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Speaker 3: went about you went four months, you went about sixteen

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Speaker 1: Is the more cardio in MMA? Is there more roadwork

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Speaker 3: He depends whether it is MMA or boxing. Every depends

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Speaker 3: You know, so they can't let it go pass.

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Speaker 1: What about the weight cut? I mean how much? I

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Speaker 3: Waight? Like two seventy five?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So you so you go into an MLA fight,

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Speaker 3: MM fight, I will go to sixty to fifty maybe

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Speaker 3: I didn't cut. I don't cut weight. You don't cut weight.

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Speaker 3: I lose weight during training camp. It's not like I

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Speaker 1: I don't uh.

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Speaker 1: It's all these drastic weight cuts that we see some

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Speaker 3: Now, you don't do that. I don't do that. I

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Speaker 1: see some of this stuff. But I think early on

435
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: they could tell this is not scripted. This is real.

436
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 3: I mean that's what that's what they said. Some people

437
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: thought at the beginning, and we made it clear that

438
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 3: this is going to our record. Yeah right, if you lost,

439
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 3: you lost. It's like you're not Dirty Tree zero anymore.

440
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: Your Dirty Tree one. Right, it's going there. So uh,

441
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 3: and then exhibition doesn't go in the right. In exhibition,

442
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 3: they don't need all those official all those staff, all

443
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 3: those drug testing stuff, because they're know at the end

444
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: of the day is just uh to put on the show.

445
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: I mean, the fight was in Saudi Arabia and you

446
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: have Kanye showed up, m showed up de la hoyr

447
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: your holy field, Christiano Ronaldo, Connor McGregor, Vince McMahon undertake

448
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: a little baby perform. What was it like to see

449
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: like you weigh in Sauty Arabia. This wasn't Vegas. And

450
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: we understand that Vegas is the fight apple of the world.

451
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: You in Saudi Arabia and you have so many big

452
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: names showing up to see a guy that's never been

453
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: any bouncing match before.

454
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, to see you by yeah, and something that

455
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 3: you don't even see in Vegas. You know, that concentration

456
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 3: of celebrity in one spot. I think that that was

457
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: the biggest concentration of celebrity in one spot. And listen,

458
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 3: like even before that, like when when we signed the fight,

459
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 3: three months out the fight we started, they started a

460
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 3: promo video, a video music clip, and then that was

461
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 3: the moment that I realized that now it's not the same.

462
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: It's not going to be the same at all. You know,

463
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 3: like that that video for the clip we should it

464
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: in Hollywood. One week in Hollywood, you're shooting a video

465
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 3: clip and now I'm like, okay, it's not the same,

466
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 3: the same at all. We don't do it I never

467
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 3: do something like this.

468
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: R Rinaldo gifted you one hundred and thirty something thousand

469
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: dollars watch. What did that mean? I mean, everybody know

470
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: he's one of the most visible, recognizable people on the planet.

471
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: And he said, bro, I think it gave me more

472
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: than that. He gave me more than a watch.

473
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: We get you more. He gave you more gifts.

474
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: No, I mean it's gifts. Is not always what somebody

475
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 3: gives you. I think it's the time, like early this year,

476
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: right after I separated with the UFC. I left the

477
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: UFC early this year, and then I went to Saudi

478
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: and we were they were trying to make me meet

479
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: Christiano and he didn't work out. The guy that said,

480
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 3: oh we have a dinner or something.

481
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: It didn't work out. Okay, I think it was full

482
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: of shit.

483
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: But then we were into a meeting at the at

484
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: the hotel restaurant, and then my guy saw one of his,

485
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: uh his guy Ricardo, and I'm like, ah, there's Ronaldo guy.

486
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: And he went to him and say hey, Rick, and

487
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 3: started to talk and he said oh, and then he

488
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 3: introduced me. He said, Ronald Christiano, he s a huge

489
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 3: friend of Francis and I'm like, yeah, maybe another guy.

490
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: Pretend you know Christiano? Right, So he said, okay, let's

491
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 3: be call. So pick on the phone and call Christiano

492
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: and say yes, I'm here with Fransis Gano blah blah

493
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: blah blah, and then hang up. I wasn't hearing the

494
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 3: other side of the phone. And then hang off and

495
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 3: say yeah, he said we should come up. He had

496
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: the pool. I'm like, yeah, whatever, but I just followed

497
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 3: the guy.

498
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: You followed the boll Yeah, like okay, what's gonna happen.

499
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 1: He's not going to chop my head right.

500
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: Then we went up to the pool and yes, Christiano

501
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: was there with his wife, his daughter and staff. He

502
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: was in the short and we introduced because to be honest,

503
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting I wouldn't be surprised if Ronald don't say, hey,

504
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 3: who is this? I wouldn't be surprised that he didn't

505
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: know me. Right, And then I'm like, hey, what's up?

506
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: Charm I started to talk, started talk, and I find

507
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: found out that he knows a lot about me. He

508
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 3: knows my story, he knows my fight. He was giving

509
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: me detail about the fight, like how I fight this guy?

510
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 3: How can I fight this guy. Which one is better

511
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: between this guy and this guy? If I fight start

512
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, how come do you know much? And

513
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 3: he said, we wake my family and I we went

514
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 3: down every time when you fight, to wash your fight.

515
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: And we were standing next to the pool like this,

516
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: talking for like forty for a minute at this and

517
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 3: I think that was more than a watch, right, and

518
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 3: just just the interaction, the interaction, and he was giving

519
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: me advice, the reason why he took this decision, why

520
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: I did this. People don't understand the thing this, but

521
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: I did this because of this. I'm like, wow, you know,

522
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: you have to know the man, not the public face,

523
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: figure him himself and understand his mind. And I'm like

524
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: this very interesting. And he was giving me some advice

525
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 3: and at the end, you know, he was so genuine

526
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: that at the end I was like, I can't live

527
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: without having my picture with this, right, I got to

528
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: get a proved and like but I was a little

529
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: embarrassed to talk about picture. And then I'm like, yeah, no,

530
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: no worry, let's go. And then he put his shirt on.

531
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: We went to on the shade and started to take

532
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: picture and like, okay, let's do face off and he

533
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 3: was laughing, huging me. You look at that picture, it

534
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: seems like we know we know each other for years, right,

535
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: it was our first time meeting. It was this is

536
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: how genuine it was. And then I was going to

537
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: save my picture for whenever I'm going to post it

538
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: is my picture with Christiano. A couple hours after I

539
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: found a picture, I just find my the notification on

540
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 3: my phone started like I'm like, what the hell is

541
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 3: going on? I checked Christiano post that picture and say, uh,

542
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: was happy to meet you today, chianm friends and Ghano

543
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: or the start blah blah blah. That's when I post mine.

544
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: That was way more than a watch.

545
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: What was some of the best advice that you've gotten

546
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: being in that situation because you got exposed to a

547
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: lot of different things that you didn't get exposed to

548
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: in the MLA by taking this fight with test types

549
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: and Fury. So what were some of the things that

550
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: people have reached out and giving you advice about moving forward?

551
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 3: Listen? Most of the time, basically, when you're doing something

552
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: that people don't understand your decision, it's not about advice.

553
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: People who will always be most people. Some people will

554
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: support you. People that are on your side, will support

555
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: you even when even when they disagree with you, right,

556
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: they still support you because it's you.

557
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: Right.

558
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: But as far as advice, who was the guy that

559
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 3: really believe in it in order to give you advice

560
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: to everybody? Or like, I don't know about that, right, So,

561
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: and then you have to do yourself to yourself. You

562
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: have to have this self conversation with yourself, like, Okay,

563
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 3: am I good?

564
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

565
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: That was my decision. I wanted this, I wanted this.

566
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: I'm doing this, And at the end of the day,

567
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: what could be worse? Maybe for me, the worst is

568
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: not to try. The worst is not to try and

569
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: fair so I don't care. I'm getting into the position

570
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: that nobody have ever expect me to get there. I'm

571
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: doing something that is uncome a photable for everyone. I'm

572
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: taking the risks this challenge. I could have just said

573
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: in MM, I'm more comfortable there, and it is. But

574
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: I'm taking a challenge. Right at the end of the day,

575
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: what I want to tell my kid is that I dare.

576
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 1: That's all.

577
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: What matter?

578
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: Would you? Deontay Walter? Obviously he fought Tyson theory three times.

579
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: Three times. They had a draw and then theory beat

580
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: him in the last two times. Would you be willing

581
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: to fight him in a boxing match?

582
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: Of course, even before this Tyson fight, we were talking

583
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: with him like, he's also willing to fight me in.

584
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: Not give him old Francis, Oh no, for real, Francis. Stop,

585
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: Why would you even take that fight? Why?

586
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, let me tell you why. Let's say he's

587
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: not fighting me, he's fighting somebody else, right, I look

588
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: at the profile of that fighter. I put my money

589
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: on Dante basic. I mean even just as a boxer basically,

590
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: now that he's like really intend to do that m

591
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: and be training on I put money on him because

592
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 3: you just need to cut somebody to learning perch Man.

593
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know them joking go had a leg

594
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: the log.

595
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: But it could also be a mixed room.

596
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: Oh so you can't kick or something like that, thinking

597
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: of a mixed rum.

598
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, right, because honestly, I think it's gonna be

599
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: too hot for him if we don't mix the rules.

600
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: The one thing about email May it can't be one dimensional.

601
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: Ronda Rousing was one dimensional? Uh, Color McGregor's one dimensional?

602
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: Really?

603
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just broke punches.

604
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: He has a good ground game. So every time they

605
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: take him to the ground, somebody will always have it.

606
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: There's always somebody that has a better ground game than somebody.

607
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: And when they say you have a descent, decent ground

608
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: game is not the best on the game. You know,

609
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: in the sport of multiple discipline, multiple dimensioned, you have

610
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: to be decent at and most of the time champion

611
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: is not great at one one thing or good last

612
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: good at a lot. You just need to be good

613
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: at a lot. Then besides good at a lot, you're

614
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: fighting IQ make you even higher because sometimes you fight it.

615
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: You're fighting a wrestler. You know that. As soon as

616
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: you guys get in.

617
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: The contact, you clinic, you can feel okay.

618
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: It's different. This gotta be wrestling for twenty years, right,

619
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: you can wrestle for three two three months in the training,

620
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: come and come compete with somebody that be eating resting

621
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: for his entire life. Right, So you just have to

622
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: avoid to go to that territory. You know, play with that.

623
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: But at the end you might win the fight. But

624
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: he doesn't mean you're a best wrestler. If they put

625
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: you guys in the wrestling game, he will eat you

626
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: people like he will.

627
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: Fight in one minute. Yeah, wrestler, because I'm gonna get tired,

628
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: like hard. It's hard, the boy getting tired when you

629
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: try to wrestle somebody.

630
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: Because yes, because you contract. Yeah, always like this, Yes, yeah,

631
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: you're not relax.

632
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: What about Anthony Joshua? Would you be willing to fight

633
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua about I'm willing to he said he.

634
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 3: Knocked you out. He I mean, that's what he said.

635
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 3: What he said, he knock you out? Well, but even

636
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: Tyson Furry said the same thing. And Tyson Fury is

637
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 3: better than Anthony Joshua. So what do I care about

638
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: what people say?

639
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: You heard that Anthony he said. You heard what he's saying.

640
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: He said, Tyson Fury, it's better than you. He beat

641
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury.

642
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: What do I care about what people say? I mean,

643
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: I've been into this game so long. I have seen

644
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 3: so much. I've heard so much what people intend to do.

645
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: There is a difference between wanting to do and be

646
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: able to do or to do or.

647
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: Saying what you're gonna do until you get into the

648
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: ring and then have to do. Yeah, So would you

649
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: be willing to fight him?

650
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: In like a mix? Like like you said, you and

651
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: the Auntie, you want in anything that he wants, anything

652
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: that you just want him in the ring? Yeah, anything

653
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: that you wants ring off Octo Gun. You know. Like

654
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 3: the good thing about this is like I'm the one

655
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: that can go everywhere more comfortably. You know, my my

656
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: comfort zone will be Octo Gun. But I'm going to

657
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: the ring and putting them into a bad spot in

658
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 3: the ring.

659
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: So so you go, So you going into their territory.

660
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm come caring.

661
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: You can't, okay, Keith to your concert.

662
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 3: I like that. I like that because I have my

663
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: territory that cannot mess with me now even and if

664
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: they come, they will need something like some favor like okay,

665
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: I if I give you this, Okay, we take a

666
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: kick out. Okay, I have to give him something.

667
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: Yeah you can't. You can't elbow. Yeah, you basically you

668
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: just basically got a box or I mean, well no,

669
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: you just have to box him in the octagon because

670
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: now you can't take him down because they can't aboard

671
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: to take.

672
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: Down, I have to give him something like when we

673
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 3: step in their ring, they don't give you anything. But

674
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: I said, get them in trouble, right.

675
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: So leaving the UFC was that a very hard decision

676
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: for you.

677
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 3: Here was a decision that if he was up to me,

678
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: I wouldn't take that decision. You know, the situation make

679
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 3: me take a decision. But he wasn't something that I

680
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: was expecting or that I was thinking. But I get

681
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: to the point that I realized that for my goods,

682
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: for my best I have to take the right decision

683
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: for myself. Right and I was a good decision for myself.

684
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: Because I'm looking at some of the things that you requested.

685
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: You requested health insurance, the ability to have sponsorship for

686
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: all UFC fighters. You are advocate for fighters at all

687
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: contract negotiations, and when they denied your request to resign,

688
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: you was like, okay, you're the first braining chain to

689
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: leave the US SEASONCE two thousand and four, so almost

690
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: twenty years first.

691
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 3: But the reason why I did that, you know, it

692
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: wasn't something that even early in my career, I was

693
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 3: thinking about the reason that I was requesting all those stuff,

694
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: because was the thing that pushed me in the position

695
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: that my back was against the war. Then I have

696
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: to figure out that, Okay, this is what's wrong, this

697
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: is what's wrong, this is what gave me here. If

698
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: I wasn't back on the wall, maybe I wouldn't have

699
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: figured that out. So then when I get my back

700
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 3: off that war, I'm like, no, I don't want to

701
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 3: get in that position that I am powerless. In fact,

702
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 3: in fact, we all are in those positions that we

703
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 3: are powerless. So you need to give something up, you know,

704
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: not to make it. It can be even, but at

705
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: least give something up. Like I have a contract that

706
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: I have no leverage in that contract, no power, nobody

707
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: could advocate for me. Everything that is there is what

708
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: you say. And I mean like even when they talk

709
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: up you talk about extension, you decide you're the party

710
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: and the George you say, okay, this we are standing you.

711
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: I don't even have a right to fight.

712
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: I don't have.

713
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 3: And those kinds of things. They put me in the

714
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: position to start things like that. So obviously that's how

715
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: he come out.

716
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: So what was I mean? So when you obviously you

717
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: have a being heavyweight chair, you have a relationship with

718
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: somewhat of a relationship with Diana. You sit down and

719
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: have a conversation you say with Dina, bro come on

720
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: that I understand you. You guys have built this, you

721
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: have an unbelievable company. But I'm princess in Ghano. I'm

722
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: the heavyweight champion of the world. Make some concessions.

723
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: No, I mean he wasn't about me, because I don't

724
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 3: just think that, oh, I'm friends is in Ghanu.

725
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: What they have?

726
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 3: What what do they have to do to the fact

727
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 3: that your friends is in Ghano. I'm a fighter, and

728
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: I believe that if fighter is the one that makes

729
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 3: that company right. Without a fighter, there is not a promotion,

730
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: There's not the USA, or there's not any other pro

731
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: fighting promotion. How about just thinking of like giving them

732
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: a little bit of a condition. And one thing that

733
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 3: I said they advocate, they advocate for the fighters was

734
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 3: just like, let's get somebody that It wasn't even about

735
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: the union. I said, let's just get somebody that speak

736
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: for the fighters, who would represent the fighters in the

737
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: board meeting. Because I do believe that sometimes your decision

738
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: hurt fighter, hurts fighter, but you didn't mean to. But

739
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: you're seeing stuff from your perspective. But if somebody was

740
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: there to explain you the fighter perspective, maybe you would

741
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 3: understand better and find a make a concession and make

742
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: it a good decision for everybody.

743
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: So that was that was my request.

744
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: It wasn't like you want a Spiders advocate advocate, right,

745
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: And the reason why I did that also leading to

746
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: a sponsorship because I lost a sponsorship for the amount

747
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: of money that I never make fighting right because of

748
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: one of their sponsors. So I'm in the position that

749
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, I'm not making money. I can't fight

750
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 3: until you guys want me to fight. If you're not

751
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: happy to me, I cannot fight.

752
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: And I have no right.

753
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 3: That contract gives me no right to claim like, Okay,

754
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: I have a right to fight, to fight a year minimum.

755
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: There's nothing you can see me there for one year

756
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: and have and say oh we are looking, oh this

757
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: doesn't work, this didn't work out, or this can be

758
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: good wow, And I'm like, no, that's not fair, that's

759
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: not right. Right, you are taking everything out from me.

760
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: Oh my right exclusivity because you want to make money

761
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 3: if you fight. Yeah, And so I'm exclusive. I'm supposedly independent,

762
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: uh contractor, but I'm not because I think the world

763
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 3: independent contractor is just not to give me the benefit

764
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: that the employees will have, like such as insurance and

765
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: most of their time. We in this sport, we get

766
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: to the point that we need uh surgery or something

767
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 3: that is more that we can afford. We cannot afford

768
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: a lot of fighters to fight paycheck after paycheck. And

769
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: that's why, like when when they finish a fight, go home,

770
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: sit and pray that they receive a call for the

771
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: promotion for the UFA to fight again in order to

772
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: have money. And by the time they have a fight,

773
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: they already broke, They already money that they meant the

774
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: money from the last fight. So at least you cover

775
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: something like I have seen fighter. I mean even now,

776
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: I say, say a lot of fighters that get hurt,

777
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: but they can go to the hospital they have and

778
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 3: they can pull out from the fight because they need

779
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 3: to go because you make the money. No, they need

780
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: to go into the fight. When they come out of

781
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: the fight, they claim it as there was hurt in

782
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: the fight. That the only that's the only because that's

783
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 3: the only moment that they are covered. They have the insurance.

784
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: But if they don't do that, if they don't go

785
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: to the fight, there will never benefit from that insurance.

786
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: And I think it's not fair. You know, in the

787
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: spot that you're using your body going after you know,

788
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: you have a surgery injury, and then you have to

789
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: go with this injury for like maybe one or two

790
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 3: months just because you cannot affort a surgery or something.

791
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: I think you said something very interesting. You said that

792
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: you had an opportunity for a sponsorship, that you would

793
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: make more money from that sponsor than you would in

794
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: the fight, but you couldn't do the sponsorship because of

795
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: the sponsor with the UFC. So the Dana then says, Okay, Francis,

796
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: you can't do that sponsorship, but since we have a sponsor,

797
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: you can do this sponsor. Did he come to you

798
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: with that.

799
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: No? And that again you know, that's the kind of

800
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: concession that I don't want. I think at this point

801
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: we are getting to the place that we can have

802
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: our own right. And the reason I think Fighter gets

803
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 3: ropped from their platform, which is like uh, sponsorship, sponsorship

804
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 3: is what at least most of the time yet getting

805
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: a little more money. Basically for those who doesn't make money,

806
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: they counting a lot of sponsorship. And obviously when you

807
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 3: have when you're having a lot of you're.

808
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: Gonna have endorsement on your trunks or something like that.

809
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: You know, gaming sites or you know something of that mature.

810
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: Yes, and I understand that. Uh they want to make

811
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: this sparkling and this. Yes, that's good, you know, create

812
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: it to you, but at least have a department so

813
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: you say, okay, maybe fighters are allowed to have one

814
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: or two that will be checked if everything and fit

815
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: a check a check, fit into the box. If if so,

816
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: they can have it, you know, but have it because

817
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 3: that's their their own. But now you have to wear

818
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: or carry all those sponsors on you that you got

819
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: the USC sponsor. Yeah, basically, so no value for you.

820
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: John Jones, John Jones, and Dana White. Dana said Francis

821
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: won't take wants to take zero risks. He's obviously didn't

822
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: want to take a chance with John Jones. He also

823
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: said Dana wants to fight the lesser opponents and make money.

824
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: Is there any regret that you left the UFC without

825
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: getting an opportunity to settle you and John Jones?

826
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: I always regretted it. Before I leave the USA. I

827
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: have been asking this fight for most three years. And

828
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: guess what they've been telling me that John is care

829
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: j doesn't want to fight Jun John doesn't want this.

830
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 3: J has enough enough money. He's living in a book

831
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 3: Cookie that is not spending that much money, so he

832
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 3: doesn't need a risk. John is not this. John doesn't

833
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: want this, and that's how they keep rolling, you know.

834
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 3: So is the mechanism that they use in any sense

835
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: right of negotiations. And I'm sure like maybe at the

836
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: same time, if John John is asking the same fight,

837
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: they will say the same thing into this fight. And

838
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 3: that's the problem when you have somebody in the mirror

839
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 3: that is controlled the information. The only thing that I

840
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: know from John John's is what the UFA will tell me.

841
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: From Jun John. The only thing that John John will

842
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: know from me is what the USA will tell him.

843
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: So what's means the power is he he manipulated everything, uh,

844
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: both side and public opinion.

845
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: What if the UFC and and your current MMA sanctioning

846
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: body says, you know what, this fight is too big

847
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: not to happen, just like we saw with Connor McGregor

848
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: and Floyd Mayweather that was too much money for it

849
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: not to happen. So we got twenty, we got forty,

850
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: we got fifty million. We're gonna split it right down

851
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: the middle.

852
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: Well, I've been cleaning this fight. I'm in the PF

853
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 3: five that can we can do the same thing as

854
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: they did with with flight Mel with that, but I

855
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: did uh at this moment, the PF need to be involved.

856
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, but they want to cut pfl out. They

857
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: just want to be or you don't.

858
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: You don't, I don't know what they want to do,

859
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: but I do.

860
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: But you would be you would be willing to fight

861
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: John John.

862
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 3: I'm willing to. I'm willing to stand out as long

863
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: I still can't we can't find a way, I'm willing

864
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: to do that fight.

865
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: Not to go back to the USA, but just that,

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Speaker 1: But I mean, but let me ask you a question. Yes,

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Speaker 1: sake of because this is gonna be the biggest It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the biggest fight in UFC history. Yeah, you're champion.

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Speaker 1: He's a champion. Many believe he's the greatest MMA fighter ever.

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Speaker 3: No matter what, I'd be there too.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna make it. Now, you get twenty five

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Speaker 1: How does prances be gano stay motivated? That changes that

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Speaker 3: No, first of all, you have to I think you

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Speaker 3: sometime some people motivation is money, and for some people

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Speaker 3: And I'm about to find out how I can go.

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Speaker 3: But I need that motivation, right, I still have that

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Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I mean more to achieve? Like what can

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