1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Now from our nation's capital. This is Bloomberg Sound On. 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit unimpressed of the discipline and the 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: training level of the Russian forces. As bad and as 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: terrific as it is, we want to make sure that 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: we do not see an escalation. Bloomberg sound on Politics, 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: Policy and perspective from DC's top name. I sent to 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: the commodity first who were made very high, elevated certainly 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: over the next year, when it's probably first after the year. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: You Republicans want to give Democrat Day victory on getting 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: tough with China on a political basist, the answer is no. 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: Floomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. The 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: US tightens the squeeze on Vladimir Putin moving to revoke 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: normal trade relations with Russia. As Washington Democrats huddle at 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: their annual strategy retreat in Philadelphia, say goodbye to your 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: Russian vodka and caviare this weekend, and welcome to the 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: fastest hour in politics. We're joined today like Han has been. 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Dwight Evans, Democrat from Pennsylvania, has been at the party 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: conference and will bring us up to date on things 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: and later the war in Ukraine's impact on business and 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: how companies are getting people in and out of country. 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: A conversation with Morgan Williams, president and CEO of the 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: US Ukraine Business Council our panel today, Bloomberg Politics contributor 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: and Democratic analyst Gene Schanzano is along with Chape and Faye, 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: Republican strategist, founder of Lighthouse Public Affairs. As President Biden 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: takes another swing at Russia, now calling on Congress to 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: use its authority to revoke normal trade relations with Moscow. 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: The President spoke from the Roosevelt Room at the White 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: House today. Here he is, each of our nation is 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: going to take steps in then I Most Favored Nations 30 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: status to Russia. The Most Favorite Nations status designation means 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: two countries have agreed to trade with each other under 32 00:01:54,720 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: the best possible terms. Prudent is an aggressor, is the aggressor, 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: and Putin must pay the price. He cannot pursue a 34 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: war that threatens the very foundations which he's doing, the 35 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: very foundations of international peace and stability, And then asked 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: for financial help from the international community, and having already 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: banned Russian oil and gas that was just days ago. 38 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: The President went for, well, the only other imports that 39 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: you may actually end up missing. Here he is again. 40 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: We're also taking a further step abandon imports of goods 41 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: from several signature sectors of the Russian economy, including seafoods, vodka, 42 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: and diamonds. Seafood, vodka and diamonds, No more cavi are 43 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: what would Robin Leach have said? Now, there's bipartisan support 44 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: in Congress by the way of revoking preferential trade status. 45 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: They'll figure out how to get this in the language. 46 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she expects to have legislation on 47 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: the floor next week. I will tell you a Republican 48 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: source in the House tells me it will pass with 49 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: strong support both sides of the aisle. Now let's bring 50 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: in Congressman Dwight Evans, Democrat from Pennsylvania and the city 51 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: of Philadelphia, where the Democratic Party is holding its annual 52 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: strategy retreat. Congressman, thank you for joining us. I know 53 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: it's been a couple of days of conversation. How much 54 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: has the war in Ukraine occupied the talk at your 55 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: retreat in Philadelphia? Uh, it's de definitely been a part 56 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: of it. It's been a centerpiece because we're on the 57 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: side of the people of Ukraine and it's important to 58 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: understand that they need our help and we need to 59 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: stand with the people. It's very clear with what prudent 60 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: is doing is wrong, and the President has articulated there 61 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: and is expressed exactly what damage is doing. So if 62 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: you're on the side of democracy, on the side of Ukraine, 63 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: and that's very clear, and we need to show and 64 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: to stand for the necessary support for the people of Ukraine. 65 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: Will you vote to revoke Russia's preferred trade status as 66 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: the President asked today if it comes to the floor 67 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: next week, Congressman, Yes, as I have supported other efforts 68 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: to send a message to Putin and his behavior and 69 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: his intman, it is not acceptable in this democracy, in 70 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: this world. And the fact that I like the fact 71 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: that the President is leaving on this issue in terms 72 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: of organizing other countries and showing that it's important to 73 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: be on the side of the people of Ukraine. So 74 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: I joined with the President and his message that he 75 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: gave today. It was a message and a sense of 76 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: hope and optimism and that we must stick together. This 77 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: is a bipartisan effort. If you know those who said 78 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: that they don't see bipartisanship. The Republicans standing very clear 79 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: with us bringing everyone together. Congressman brought Europe together as well. 80 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: We know there could be additional sanctions speaking of bipartisanship, uh, 81 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: like just relative sanctions after the framework was announced a 82 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: few days ago, Democrats and Republicans from the tax writing committees, 83 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: do you want to see sanctions already announced before you 84 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: even add more? Do you want to see sanctions announced 85 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: made permanent, like the banning of Russian gas and oil? Well, look, 86 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: this is very serious and the fact of the matter 87 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: is for what is happening to the people of uking, 88 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: women and children and the damage that is a current, 89 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: and it's very clear that through the president, leadership of 90 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: us working together is very important. So we must support 91 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: the President in his leadership. We must joy that line 92 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: and not accept this behavior. And I believe he's leaving 93 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: us in the right direction and that support direction. I 94 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: read you, I read you on that, Congressman. But should 95 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: there be should Congress be adding its voice to that? 96 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: Is it time to codify sanctions through legislation? Sho, Well, 97 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: you know it's cindified for us to work together, Okay, 98 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: And that's us working with the speak of the House 99 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: and the President and not to try to pre empt 100 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: a strategy which I believe is to lay it out 101 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: and I believe ultimately will win out. Well, let me 102 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: ask you as well, Congress past denominous budget this week, 103 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: which is why we're not talking about running out of 104 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: money tonight. So we'll call that a win. But it 105 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: was passed without any of the COVID funding that the 106 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: administration requested. It was twenty two billion dollars. There's a 107 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: lot of money. The White House says our testing capacity 108 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: will begin declining now this month. I know the main 109 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: point of disagreement, Congressman was the clawback of COVID funding 110 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: from some states. How does this end? Does does that 111 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: part need to change to get this past? Well, I 112 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: mean we worked it up. In the case of Pennsylvania. 113 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: That was not an issue for arbticular state. Yeah, so 114 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: I share with you that we would be revisited, uh, 115 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: and I believe we will find a way to work 116 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: it out. So in Pennsylvania that was not one of 117 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: our challenges. But yet we still joined the hefor the 118 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: based on the President. If you don't saying how significant. 119 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: It was was to to finally pass the budget that 120 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: will go up until in the September, and the budget 121 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: makes the necessary investments that are important. As we've moved ahead, 122 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: we can think about one point five it was done 123 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: in terms of the investment and important the investments that 124 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: are needed for the American people, and that's and also 125 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: the money there for Ukraine that's also important. I think 126 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: we need to understand. We got to work together on this. 127 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: Speaker Pelosi, I spoke at your retreat today about the 128 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: Democratic agenda for the rest of the year. Congressman spoke 129 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: about portions of the Build Back Better legislation, like paid leave, 130 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: like the child tax credit. She she listed a number 131 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: of them. As a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. 132 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: Do you trust the leadership in the party to make 133 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: that happen this year? Yes, very clear. But this leadership 134 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi has been clear and she has shown it 135 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 1: from the beginning, and I believe that she just needs 136 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: our support and I would be a sit on the 137 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: Ways and Means Committee. I understand she understands the importance 138 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: of it, and she is providing a kind of leadership 139 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: that we really need. So more day anything. We need 140 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: to show leadership between Nancy Pelosi and President By and 141 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: Vice President Harris Well, I know that you know, look, 142 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: this is a problem. Last year, I know a lot 143 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: of progressives congressmen felt burned. If you couldn't pass these 144 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: last year, how do you pass them this year in 145 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: a midterm election season. Well, you know, you just work harder, 146 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: You just work harder. Nothing is ever easy. We have 147 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: a very difficult situation when uh factive matter. When you 148 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: think about the pandemic and the challenges that but we 149 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: understand that we must figure out a way to address 150 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: these issues. You think about the American Rescue Act, that 151 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't have passed if it was not because of the Democrats. 152 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: That's stupid. The president and the importance of look at 153 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: the boy bars, the Infrastrust Form pactice you know what 154 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: thought that could be done, And it's all came down 155 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: to matho, of course, and I'd spend pretty difficult math 156 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: with some of these build back better provisions. How are 157 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: you how are you managing this in the in the 158 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: conversations as you strategize in Philadelphia for the year ahead. 159 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: So you're not talking about Joe Manchin and kirston Cinema 160 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: straight through election day. No, I think, like like anything. 161 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: You know, look, everything needs to figure out. There's a 162 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: way and and and you know you're gonna have people 163 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: have difference of opinion, but you gotta keep your eye 164 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: on the ball. And on the ball is how we 165 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: best support the kinds of family policies that the President 166 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: is talking about, putting money in people's pockets, helping knows that. 167 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: Look at the policy challenges we've had. So you know, 168 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: you know your question about the basis of your question. 169 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: This is not gonna be just quick and easy answer. 170 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: It is gonna be win. Almost everyone works together, and 171 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: that's very important to remember. You know, when the President 172 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: talked to mayor Rescue at you know all the Democrats, 173 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: all the Democrats were together, even Mansions was there. So 174 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: I want to let you know it is clear there 175 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: are things we need to done. Did you talk to him? 176 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: Is he gonna vote for some of this legislation or 177 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: is this going to continue to be an obstacle? Well, 178 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. I would just say to you, 179 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: you know the Senator, he has his views and at 180 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think there will be 181 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: some way We'll find ways to get it done. Congressman 182 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: Dwight Evans, Congressman from Pennsylvania's third congressional district, or regards 183 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: to Philadelphia, Sir, thanks for being with us here on 184 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound On. I'm Joe Matthew in Washington, and it's 185 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: the fastest hour in politics, which is why I want 186 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: to pull in Genie Chanzano, Bloomberg Politics contributor, with a 187 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: couple of minutes here. Genie, your thoughts on this as 188 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: Democrats gather in Philadelphia. Nothing's changed in the math? Is 189 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: this just kind of a blue sky going into the 190 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: the new year here with some of these items like 191 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: I mentioned paid leave for instance, that couldn't get through 192 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: the Build Back Better agenda last year. Is this a 193 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: real conversation or is this kind of a pep rally 194 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: that's going on. I think it's a little bit of both, 195 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: you know. I think Democrats are feeling pretty good that 196 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: they made it to Philly with having passed the Omnibus 197 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: Bill a few months into the year. They've also gotten 198 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: through the Post Office Act. You know, they have gotten 199 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: the violence against women. I mean, there's been a few 200 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: bright spots there in Congress but I think what we're 201 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: hearing out of interestingly, out of Philly, is for the 202 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: rest of that agenda that you were talking to Representative 203 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: Evans about. They are looking at the president and looking 204 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: to the President and saying, please use your executive authority 205 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: to pass these things, because they know full well if 206 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: they don't maintain the House and the Senate in the fall, 207 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: they're not going to have these things passed at least 208 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: for two years. All right, this is great. We're gonna 209 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: pick up right there as we assemble the panel next 210 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: with Genie Chanzano and Chape and Fay, Republican strategist, founder 211 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: of Lighthouse Public Affairs, will bring you in the room 212 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: in that retreat in Philadelphia. Let you hear what Speaker 213 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: Pelosi was saying. Coming up next, But of course we 214 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: want to check traffic and the markets on the way. 215 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: It's sound on. I'm Joe Matthew and this is Bloomberg. 216 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg. Sound On with Joe Matthew on 217 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio headline on the terminal, Democrats seek wins to 218 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: woo voters after build back, better flop. Our friend Emily 219 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: Wilkins shares the byline House Democrats seeking avenues, she writes, 220 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: to ram through their priorities as part of a final 221 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: push before the midterm elections. Yes, the year of sweet release. 222 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: That was me who said that. But importantly here Democrats, 223 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: they right hope President Biden and Gennie mentioned this a 224 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: minute ago, can use executive action to accomplish some of 225 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: what they and not pass. So that's how this ends. 226 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: Congressman Clyburn was talking about it up at that retreat, 227 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: reminding members of how many times through history executive orders 228 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: have been used. Certainly was a preferred mechanism of the 229 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: former president. But let's back up. Let's bring you into 230 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: the room actually in Philadelphia a little bit earlier today 231 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: with Speaker Nancy Pelosi talking about this very agenda that 232 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: would be I guess part legislative, part executive order, and 233 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: a lot of it sounds awfully familiar. Here she is, 234 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: and we want to continue that were concertain aspects of BBB, 235 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: where child tax credit, uh universal pre K. The list 236 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: goes on to affordable childcare. Our champion in the Congress, 237 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: Katherine Clarke, nobody has done more than she has in 238 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: the Congress on that subject, home health care, saving our planet. 239 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: The list goes on saving the planet, a little thing 240 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: called saving the planet. By the time President Biden got 241 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: there and spoke to the room, this is a few 242 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: hours later, the conversation shifted to communicating what had already 243 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: been done, what had already been passed, and he was 244 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: talking about fiscal responsibility and the bad rap that Pith 245 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: sees the party getting. Here's the President Biden at the 246 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: retreat last year. Because of what you all did, we 247 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: reduced the deaf asit by three hundred and sixty billion 248 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: dollars wait the Democrats, while the economy grew. We're on 249 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: track right now attracted to be the first president history 250 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: to lower the deaf over one trillion dollars in one year. 251 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm sick of this stuff. We have to talk about 252 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: it because American people think the region of inflation is 253 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: government spending more money. Simply not true. I don't think 254 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: we need any lectures from our friends and other side 255 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: of a fist corresponsibility. For God's sake, he got some laughter. 256 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: There no major standing ovation. As we assemble the panel 257 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: with the aforementioned Jennie Shenzano, Democratic analyst, Bloomberg Politics contributor 258 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: joined today by chap and Faye, republican strategist, founder of 259 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: Lighthouse Public Affairs, chaping back with us on the fastest 260 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: hour in politics. It's great to have you both here, Genie, 261 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: to your point, how much of this can be done 262 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: through executive order? Uh, you know a bit of it can. 263 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: You know what's stunning to me is when Barack Obama 264 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: famously in said, you know, I've got my pen and 265 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: I've got my phone, and I can make this work 266 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: and go it alone because Congress isn't operating. He was 267 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: six years into his administration, two years into his second term. 268 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: They are talking about this, and and Joe Biden is 269 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: only one year into his term. And I think that 270 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: just speaks volumes about where Democrats think they are. And 271 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, to the President's point today, just briefly, I 272 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: think the Democrats have to be careful. They have done 273 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: a lot of good, they have gotten a lot passed, 274 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: they have spent a lot of money. They need to 275 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: also talk about the positive things they have done, not 276 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: only moan about what hasn't gotten through. There have been positives. 277 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: Let's start with the bipartisan infrastructure and you can go 278 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: right down the list. So they've got to also take 279 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: a page from what the president is talking about here, chapen, 280 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: Is this happy talk? Or can any of this actually 281 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: happen legislatively or through executive order? There were so many 282 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: attempts to get it done last year, we saw them 283 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: all fail in real time and talk about it on 284 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: this program for months. Things have only become more difficult 285 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: this year in a midterm election cycle. So how could 286 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: it happen? Well, I mean, like you said, work harder, 287 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: I guess um. You know, Um, Democrats control both houses 288 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: of the legislature and the presidency, so um to be 289 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: talking about doing things by executive order? Um, I find 290 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: a little odd. Um. It's their own party. They have 291 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: to get on board. Um, even you know they're all 292 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: members in the Senate are not excited about some of 293 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: the things that they want to do. Um. And you know, um, 294 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: during election years, things tend to get a little strange, 295 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: even stranger, curious er and curious or um. But I 296 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: think that shows, you know, the will of the voters 297 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: is gonna is gonna happen in November. And if the 298 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: Democrats are afraid of doing some of these things, are 299 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: putting things on the back burner because they're not popular 300 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: with voters. I mean, I think that speaks. Even Louder 301 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: said on the program yesterday, the Democrats would never waste 302 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: a reconciliation bill. Uh, it doesn't that and he's got 303 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: to be right about that. Doesn't this suggest then that 304 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: they don't think that to your point, they can even 305 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: get that passed with on a party line vote. They'll 306 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: they will need executive orders to get these through. Oh 307 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: that's right, and um, you know I I think, um, 308 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's it's it's both parties to 309 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: blame here because you know, Republicans sends victory here now right. 310 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: UM's it's shaping up to be a Republican wave year 311 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: in certainly the House, maybe even the Senate. Um. So 312 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: the Democrats are gonna find it harder and harder to 313 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: find by partnership because Republicans just you know, real politics, 314 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 1: think they can get more votes and think that they 315 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: can win seats. So it's gonna be just much more 316 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: difficult for Democrats to get things done that are if 317 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: this broad popularity, if this becomes legislation, Genie, does it 318 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: look a heck of a lot like Joe Mansion's memo 319 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: from last June. It'll look exactly the way Joe Mansion 320 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: wants it to if it goes through Congress. Joe m 321 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: is gonna be all over that and not are Joe 322 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: m You're are Joe m. This is the other Senator, 323 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion. It's gonna look exactly like he wants it um, 324 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, because he has been willing to stand up 325 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: to Democrats and say this is you know what I 326 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: will and will not accept. You know, other senators on 327 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: the Democratic side could do the same thing. Maybe Kristen 328 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: Cinema to a certain extent will, But that's absolutely what 329 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna see if it passes, Genie and Chafin or 330 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: with us, our panel for the day here on sound 331 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: On will turn to Ukraine next. Stay with us, IM 332 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: Joe Matthew. 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We know 338 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: what the war in Ukraine has meant for the Russian economy, 339 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: but we don't talk a lot about what's happening to 340 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: business in Ukraine unless it involves the huge spike in 341 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: wheat prices or other commodities we hear a lot about. 342 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: Coming up, We're gonna learn more about it from Morgan Williams, 343 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: President and CEO of the U S Ukraine Business Council. 344 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: We see headlines every day on major companies dropping their business, 345 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: cutting ties, divesting from Russia, Coca Cola, the Goldman Sachs, 346 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: a lot of companies those still are winding down business 347 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: or still have clients or customers to protect in Ukraine 348 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: and getting their people in or out has become a 349 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: major undertaking. Join us to joining us to talk more 350 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: about that and the impact overall that the war is 351 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: having on Ukrainian business in the economy. We welcome Morgan Williams, 352 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: the President and CEO of the US Ukraine Business Council. Morgan, 353 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions for you. I want 354 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: to start with with the most immediate, and that is, 355 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: of course, the security situation. How many business leaders are 356 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: working to get people in or out of the country 357 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: right now. And to what end are they going to 358 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: get it done? Well, here's number of international businesses that 359 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: have been in Ukraine for five years, including the United States. 360 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: The United States probably has a couple of hundred huge 361 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: businesses thoughts them in the Fortune five. They mostly employ 362 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: people in Ukraine, and so they're number one goal is 363 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: to protect their employees. Some of them have several thousand, 364 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: uh some of their top people have left Ukraine or 365 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: went to Western Ukrainm. But to safety of their employees 366 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: and some of their key assets big priority for them. 367 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: They've been working on it. Well, I'll tell you this 368 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: has become from what I understand, it's it's its own 369 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: cottage industry here. Security firms moving people around the world 370 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: are incredibly busy at the moment. Uh in Ukraine, is 371 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: it still possible to get in and out? Well, let's 372 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: uh yeah, there was still some planes going in and 373 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: in and out, but it's very difficult and people have 374 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: to get out to uh Western Uklaim in order to 375 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: get out, and most of them that wanted out of 376 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: already already left. So it's getting your worst every day. Boy, 377 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: the windows closing here obviously, Morgan, give us a sense 378 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: of what this means is for the Ukrainian economy. We 379 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: hear about commodity prices spiking, wheat in other commodities that 380 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: are at the heart of Ukraine's economy. Will there be 381 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: anything left? How long will it take to rebuild from this? Well, 382 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: we've got you know, President Pertain undertaking a horrible, unthinkable, 383 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: heartbreaking invasion with no justified reason. He's basically a dictator 384 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: out of control, and they're just destroying the infrastructure. They're 385 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: attacking businesses, they're attacking people and residents. So Ukraine has 386 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: a huge industry of agriculture, tourism and manufacturing, and it 387 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: seems like he's going after, uh, the destruction of the 388 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: whole country. How did business in Ukraine prepare for this? Was? 389 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: Were things shut down before beginner? Are they still trying 390 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: to operate? Well? There was, Most of them are still 391 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: trying to operate because, as I said, most of all 392 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: the people there that worked for all the US companies 393 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: are Ukrainian. And you know, they're producing food, they're doing 394 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: manufacturing and trying to keep the grocery stores open, to 395 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: keep the drug stores open. So they all been doing 396 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: everything possible to UH to keep this going, to support 397 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: the the heroic people of Ukraine. What is the government 398 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: here in the US need to do. It's not being 399 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: done already. We heard about relief money approved this week 400 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: by Congress. The President has been largely focused on cracking 401 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: down on the Russian economy. But is this just a 402 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: humanitarian story at this point, Morgan, or does more need 403 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: to be done? Well, there's more that the United States 404 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: could do, and there's a lot more that could have 405 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: done in advance of this. There's UH. Our military has 406 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: a lot of UH cybersecurity capacity that they could be using. 407 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: We need to provide airplanes to Ukraine. You've got to 408 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: ship in more anti tech missiles. UM. This guy doesn't 409 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: really care about the sanctions. He doesn't care about the 410 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: people of Russia. He wants to destroy Ukraine. He wants 411 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: to take Ukraine, and so the only way to stop 412 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: it right now UH is UH through military action. And 413 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: the Ukraine military needs a lot some more support from 414 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: the EU and UH and some of the United States. 415 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: So there's a lot more of the United States could do. Morgan. 416 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: I appreciate your insights today and spending some time with 417 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: us Morgan Williams, President CEO of the U s Ukraine 418 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: Business Council, as we reassemble the panel with Genie Schanzano 419 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Politics contributor, Democratic Analysts and Shape and Phagas with 420 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: his Republican strategist, a founder of Lighthouse Public Affairs. What 421 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: do you make of that conversation, Genie, You know, it 422 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: sounds to me like obviously the an economy that's to 423 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: be in shambles for many years, but also a situation 424 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: in which the United States could find itself in a 425 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: position of providing billions more dollars in aid. We've barely 426 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: scratched the surface with the fourteen billion past this week. 427 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: That's right, that that is now looking like a drop 428 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: in the bucket. And it was fascinating to hear what 429 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: you and Morgan we're talking about, because to your point, 430 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: we seldom here about those businesses over there, and when 431 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: you asked him about, you know, the issue of preparation 432 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: in terms of going into this, I think one of 433 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: the astonishing things for me has been, you know, how 434 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: they were trying to prepare if they were to handle 435 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: the onslaught that the United States and much of NATO 436 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: was saying was about to happen, and in some cases 437 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: it looks like, you know, there was much more work 438 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: to be done on that area shaven. There were calls 439 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: by the U. S. State Department to get out of 440 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 1: Ukraine starting pretty early. They began with diplomats, families and 441 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: so forth. Did we wait too late to make the 442 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: full call for evacuation with Afghanistan? In our memories a 443 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: lot of people were calling for a more concerted airlift 444 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: at an earlier time. You know, I think, you know, 445 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: hindsight is so yes, I think we were we were 446 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: behind on that UM. But I think you know, when 447 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: you're dealing with a manman like Vladimir Putin, I mean, 448 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: it's very difficult to be able to help Ukraine without 449 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: actually setting off World War three. So we are sort 450 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: of you know, as much as I want to bash 451 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: President Biden for everything he does, he's sort of boxed 452 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: into a quarter here on how much we can do 453 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: on our own. I mean, I think NATO needs to 454 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: maybe step up a little bit. Maybe maybe America can 455 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: help out via NATO. UM. But you know, Putin has 456 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: made it very clear that you know, any small step 457 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: that we might take, he's going to take as an 458 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: active war. Um. I will you know, I will say 459 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: I think I think the timing is is no coincidence. 460 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: I think they waited for you know, uh, you know 461 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 1: a president who who maybe wasn't as you know, bluster 462 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: us when it comes to this sort of thing, um 463 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: to be our leader. But um, you know we're sort 464 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: of in this situation now where we have to get 465 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: we have to help the people of Ukraine. I mean, 466 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: we have to, but you know, how do you do 467 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 1: it without starting War three? They were Yard Chapin and 468 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: Jeannie will keep the panel with us. Next on sound on, 469 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg. So 470 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Well, so much 471 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: for the talks. Another attempt at negotiations between Ukraine and Russia, 472 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: if only for appearances, failed to make progress, which may 473 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: not come as a surprise to you, even after Vladimir 474 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: Prutin said he was hearing good things. And we know 475 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: this because Bloomberg spoke today exclusively with Ukrainian Foreign Minister 476 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: Dimitro Kuleba. He tells Washington correspondent and Marie Hordern that 477 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: nothing has changed here. He is. Yesterday I met with 478 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: Russian for the minister lavrow uh In. Yeah, this meeting 479 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: was facilitated by the Turkish foreign Minister. We spent an 480 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: hour and a half and there was zero progress in talks. 481 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to understand what kind of 482 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: progress present Putting is referring to. That's after ninety minutes 483 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: with Sergei Lavrov. Ninety minutes with Sergey it sounds like 484 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: a TV movie. As we reassemble the panel, Jeanie Schanzano 485 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: and Chape and Phase with US Republican strategists. Chapin, what 486 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: do you make of the whole disinformation campaign the way 487 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: the administration has been handling it. As soon as intelligence 488 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: has gathered, it is released. It's been seen as a deterrent. 489 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,239 Speaker 1: What is it working. Well, it's hard to tell if 490 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: it's working because there's information, there's this information, and in 491 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: this day of seven social media and you know, communications 492 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: around the clock, I mean, it has always been hard 493 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: to sift through what's what is, what is true, and 494 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: what is not. I mean we saw that during the pandemic, 495 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: where you had just you know, uh search for a 496 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: while to find out what was really going on. UM, 497 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: but I do think it's a very good strategy to 498 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, put out the you know, the intelligence as 499 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: soon as they get it. I mean, I think it, 500 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: I think it. It is likely to succeed. I can't 501 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: say for sure if it's succeeding currently. Yeah, Gennie, We've 502 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: talked about this, and it's interesting to see it on 503 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: both sides. Putin today suggesting that there's progress suddenly in talks, 504 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: is that part of some kind of a set up here, 505 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: acting optimistic only to be let down by whatever false 506 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: flag operation he's about to let go. It seems to be. 507 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: And what was fascinating is that the markets people seem 508 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: to take that, to take Putin's word, as you know, 509 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: potentially a positive sign until Anne Marie's absolutely amazing interview 510 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: in which we heard that there was no progress whatsoever, 511 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: in fact, quite the opposite, and that people started to 512 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: react to that as well. And you know, I think 513 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: it again speaks to the fact that with Vladimir Putin, 514 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: you really cannot listen to what he says. Here's a 515 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: man who said, right up until they entered Ukraine, they 516 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: were going to enter Ukraine and then he entered. And 517 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: so now to say that you know, they're making progress 518 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: on talks, I think we have to be very circumspect 519 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: about feeling some kind of positive, you know, reaction to that, 520 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: because of course it's probably not the case, and that's 521 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: what it's turned out to be. What are we gonna 522 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: be looking for this weekend, Ginnie? We've gone into a 523 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: couple of weekends now wondering if, for instance, this is 524 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: going to be the fall of Kiev. Uh. The Ukrainians 525 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: have done an incredible job holding off Russian forces, but 526 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: this is likely not going to go on UH forever. 527 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: We've seen the direct shelling of civilian areas and some 528 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: pretty tough stuff here. If Vladimir Putin is breaking up 529 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: this column as we understand north of Kiev, are you 530 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: preparing for? Should the White House be preparing people for 531 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: h for a real assault on on these downtown areas? 532 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: It should, and you know, the White House, I think 533 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: has been trying to do that. They have to do that, um, 534 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: and I think you have to prepare people for what's 535 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: likely going to be a lot of carnage over this weekend. 536 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: And the pictures and the videos which have been absolutely astounding. 537 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: You know, the the White House spent some time talking 538 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: to TikTokers over the last few days. This is where 539 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: most people that I teach, most young people across the world, 540 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: including in Russia, are getting their news. That's why the 541 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: White House is investing time there. And you can turn 542 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: on TikTok or any of these other apps. I don't 543 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: think you turn it on, that's how old I am. 544 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: But you can go into it and you we can 545 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: all see these devastating pictures live, and so the White 546 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: House does have to prepare for the real reality that 547 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: this could be the fall of Kiev in the next 548 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: few days. Hopefully the Ukrainians can hold on well if 549 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna be covering this for you throughout the weekend, 550 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: so stay with Bloomberg News keep your eyes on the terminal. 551 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: Of course, this is a story that we've got several 552 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: angles on from around the world, including here in Washington, 553 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: d C. As we speak with the panel on a 554 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: Friday edition of Sound On. Jeannie Chanzano is here along 555 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: with Chape and Faye. And a big event to be 556 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: looking for or two next week. That's the Federal Reserve 557 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: meeting shape and it brings inflation back to the four. 558 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: We understand that there's going to be an interest rate cut. 559 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: We already heard this from j. Powell repeatedly as he 560 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: tried to telegraph a quarter point cut. But in terms 561 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: of the consciousness here in Washington, just seeing that headline 562 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: is going to bring inflation back into the conversation. We 563 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: saw the cp I hit another difficult level this week, 564 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 1: even though it was within expectations. Still, just seeing the 565 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: print sometimes feels different than than when you talk about 566 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: it coming. What's that going to do to the political 567 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: conversation next week? Is the Federal Reserve brings its first 568 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: interest rate hike since COVID Well, I think it's just 569 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: going to continue it and elevate it. I mean, it's 570 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: what Republicans are gonna be talking about. It's what people 571 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: are talking about on the ground. I mean, it's not 572 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: just a political issue. It's an issue for everyday Americans 573 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: as they go fill their gas tanks up with gas 574 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: or go try and buy meeting fish that you know, 575 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: those costs are spiling out of control. I mean, it's 576 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: a real problem. And whether you know the president or 577 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: the government has any real impact on being able to 578 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: address inflation, quickly or long term is irrelevant almost to 579 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: the political conversation, because if if inflation and the economy 580 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: continues the way it's going, I mean, the red wave 581 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: is going to be uh, you know, a blood bath 582 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: in November. So I think all of the all of 583 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: washing and d C right now should be trying to 584 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: fix this, not only because it's an actual problem, but 585 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: also because it's it's it's one, you know, it's a 586 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: very big political problem. People are going to throw out 587 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: the party in you know, the the incumbents of the 588 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: people in office, and that's gonna affect Democrats very badly. Gee. 589 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: The White House has started calling this the Putin price hike, 590 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: more specifically the energy but we're hearing this kind of 591 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 1: Putin you know, the war in Ukraine is is in 592 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: fact the reason why commodity prices are going up. You 593 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: cannot argue with that, but they were going way up 594 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: before the war started. Of course, is that a smart 595 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: line for the administration to politically? It is smart, and 596 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: we're going to hear much more of this. It's Putin's war, 597 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: it's Putin's inflation, it's Putin's gas prices. Everything is going 598 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: to be blamed on Putin and the Republicans are going 599 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: to have to work hard to counter that message. And 600 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're going to do that, because, as Japan 601 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: was just talking about, in normal circumstances, this kind of 602 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: inflation would devastate the party in charge. And the angle 603 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: the White House and the Democrats seem to be taking 604 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: in the last few days or moving to, is the 605 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: idea that we are not at fault. We're going to 606 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: triangulate this thing, and it's Putin's problem, and we should 607 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: look at you know, and we should look at you know, 608 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: the numbers as you look at the polls just after 609 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: the State of the Union, Biden's numbers have been ticking up. 610 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: So Democrats feel a mild, very mild optimism. We're a 611 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: long way off from the mid term, but they're feeling 612 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: like this could be a message that works. Is the 613 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: Putin price hiker better slogan for Dems this year than 614 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: build back better? I think it is. And you know, 615 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: it's it on reliable fact that it's certainly having an effect. 616 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: How big an effect them, Sure, we'll litigate over the 617 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: next couple of months, but um, it's certainly it's certainly 618 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: a factor. Um and again, you know, eight months in 619 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: politics as a lifetime. So if inflation and the economy, uh, 620 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: and you know, the war in Europe start to come 621 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: under control, then the fortunes for Democrats may change. Something else, 622 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: of course, comes into the conversation. We start talking about 623 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: the Federal Reserve, Genie, and that's all these empty seats. Uh. 624 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: We still haven't had a vote on the president's nominees, 625 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: including the chair the renomination of J. Powell. I don't 626 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: really understand the strategy here unless this is just you know, 627 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: letting letting the clock run out until Sarah Bloom Raskin 628 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: withdraws her nomination. I've suggested this to a few people 629 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: on the program before. Is that the actual aim here 630 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: for Republicans as opposed to just voting no this This 631 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: has been astonishing from start to finish to me, as 632 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: we've talked about, the nominations took forever, they finally get 633 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: their their hearings, and then we have this hold up 634 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: by the Republicans. Um. You know, at this point, given 635 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: where we are with inflation in this country and the 636 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: need for serious action by serious people in Washington, particularly 637 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: the FED, it seems to me that you know, If 638 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: Sarah Blumraskin is holding this up, the White House should 639 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: consider separating her from the other four. Let them go 640 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: through legend back after that, there's no turning back after that. 641 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: I think she is a great nominee, but one person 642 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: should not be holding up all five of these people 643 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: getting through for the sake of the country and and 644 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: the inflation that we're facing right now Japan. Wouldn't it 645 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: behoove Republicans to show up for work and vote now? Well, 646 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: woul always be moved in the show to show up 647 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: for work. Um, you know, I I don't know that 648 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: there's usta of boycotting the hearing to no end, I mean, yeah, no, 649 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: I I agree. I mean with that. UM, I think that, um, 650 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: you know that something needs to something needs to move, 651 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: and I think the Republicans, um. But but the Republicans 652 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: are going to get you know, tarred with UM. You know, 653 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: you can't hold things up forever and just hope and pray, 654 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: you know that elections go well for you for the 655 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: next time months. Like I said, you know, that's a 656 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: long time. And you know, if if the Biden administration 657 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, Putin's price increase, uh works Republican 658 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: you know, might come back on Republicans. So they need 659 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: to be they need to be looking like they're doing 660 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: they have a positive solution to the inflation and economic issues, 661 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: and you know, boycotting hearings, I I personally don't don't 662 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: think looks like a positive solution. Genie Chanzano, I appreciate 663 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: the insights from both of you our panel on this 664 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: Friday on Sound On, you wonder why people don't want 665 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: to go along into the weekend marches Women's History Month. 666 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: We get our daily installment right now from Nidia. On 667 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: this day in Women's History. In two thousand six, Michelle 668 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: Bachelette is sworn in as Chile's first female president. She's 669 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: a lifelong socialist, former political exile, and ex prisoner of 670 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: the military dictatorship. Her rise highlighted a cultural shift in 671 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: a mostly Roman Catholic country that was long regarded as 672 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: among the most conservative in Latin America. It was also 673 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: a nation where at the time divorce was only recently 674 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: legalized and abortion was still illegal. At the time, women 675 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: were also often earning as much as forty percent less 676 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: than men with similar jobs. By contrast, especially, it was 677 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: an agnostic and a single mother of three, she was 678 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: also the first popularly elected South American female president whose 679 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: political career was established independently of a husband. She served 680 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: two separate terms as president of Chile. That's today in 681 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: women's history. I'm Nita Young, Bloomberg Radio. Thanks for Nita, 682 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: Meet you back your Monday, the fastest hour in politics. 683 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg